In Iran, reported the arrest of the military involved in the attack on the Boeing


Iranian media have reported a series of arrests in a previously criminal case involving the attack on the Boeing 737 of the Ukrainian airline UIA.


In Iran, it is noted that we are talking about the Iranian military, which are part of the structure of the air defense forces. According to the latest information, these are military personnel of aerospace units and formations of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).

The representative of the Supreme Judicial Corps of Iran, Golyamkhossein Esmaily, noted that at present several military men have been arrested.

Meanwhile, the Iranian media broadcast a statement by the president of the country. Hassan Rouhani, commenting on the words of the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC, noted that one person in this situation cannot and should not be held responsible. Rouhani said that in the dock would be all those who are somehow connected with striking a passenger airliner.

Rouhani:

We must demonstrate to the world that from now on nothing like this will happen again.

Recall that the plane of Ukrainian International Airlines was shot down about 3 minutes after taking off from the airport of Imam Khomeini. At the same time, it was stated that two Tor anti-aircraft missiles from “one of the secret bases of the IRGC” were fired at it at a short interval. This blow was associated with the “loss of communication” between the links and the calculations of the air defense system.
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  1. Victor_B 14 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    The guilty must be punished!
    The fact that they were mistaken does not remove the guilt.
    So it should be with everyone except the Americans (Iranian A-300) and Ukrainians (Tu-154 and MN-17).
    1. Sunjar 14 January 2020 13: 35 New
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      Questions about backfill. Iran encouraged everyone (except the United States) to participate in the investigation of the crash of the aircraft. They invited all specialists with equipment for reading black boxes. What for? Were you sure that the plane did crash due to a technical error or a terrorist attack? Now they admitted that they themselves were shot down. And therefore it was necessary to conduct an investigation so that all circumstances could be established? Why not invite specialists from all over the world with maximum openness in business? The military specialists who were behind the air defense system are so repulsed that they are unable to distinguish that the target is flying towards the border, and not vice versa, and even with climb, and not with a decrease? Okay, the arriving one would be shot down. Still a muddy story, even with recognition.
      1. orionvitt 14 January 2020 13: 44 New
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        Quote: Sunjar
        Still a muddy story, even with recognition.

        I agree, the story is muddy. Wait, it seems to me that on the issue of Ukrainian Boeing, we will find out many more interesting things.
        1. NEXUS 14 January 2020 16: 32 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          Wait, it seems to me that on the issue of Ukrainian Boeing, we will find out many more interesting things.

          As long as the NATO base is in Ochakovo, we won’t know anything. And if we wanted to know and publicize, we would take Parasha by the gills with all his accomplices and drag him to Moscow to testify. Only they will not do this, because for such steps political alas, the Kremlin needs a will, alas.
      2. artifact 14 January 2020 14: 43 New
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        Quote: Sunjar
        Okay, the arriving one would be shot down.


        there was another plane in the sky over the Iranian capital.
        Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1578986507
        and this one
        the second board belonged to Qatar Airways.
        Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1578986507
        purely my conspiracy theology: - Iranian air defense wanted to bring a plane to one of the Arab countries in order to arouse even greater tension. (I don’t know yet how to crank it up) maybe the TOP operator was “bribed”, and the Ukrainian Boeing was not there and not then, in general, the missile was not intended for him.
        the "random witness" bothers me the most
        1. genius-f 14 January 2020 15: 14 New
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          There is a need to ask a "random witness" how he ended up there, why he filmed just that, etc. What does he do in life. We must hurry, otherwise he will disappear as a Ukrainian dispatcher ...
      3. Wolf 14 January 2020 14: 59 New
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        Yes, Sunar, WHAT A MUDDY HISTORY !!!
        1. Wolf 14 January 2020 15: 10 New
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          The most logical conclusion is that the air defense was substituted, by whom and in what way VAPROS?
    2. iouris 14 January 2020 13: 59 New
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      Quote: Victor_B
      The guilty must be punished!

      The blame is established by the court. Long live the Iranian court, the most Iranian court in the world!
      Guilt and error are, in principle, different things. Assume different types and degrees of responsibility. The error could objectively flow out of the difficult situation that Trump created.
      But, of course, intent cannot be completely ruled out. In general, this whole story has a predominantly domestic political dimension, both for Iran and the United States. But there is also Zelensky and Turchinov. Politics is a dirty business.
      The regime that the US accuses of killing passengers is usually overthrown. We will see, i.e. watch. For it concerns us too.
      1. Bukhalov 14 January 2020 15: 55 New
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        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Victor_B
        The guilty must be punished!

        Guilt and error are, in principle, different things. Assume different types and degrees of responsibility. The error could objectively flow out of the difficult situation that Trump created.
        But, of course, intent cannot be completely ruled out.

        Here’s your grandmother and St. George’s Day! And I, naive, believed that intent, both direct and indirect, could be with an error. And the qualification of a deliberate crime is not fundamentally affected. That is absolutely. A person shoots at one person, but mistakenly kills another (the so-called error in the object).
        And he will answer according to the ideal combination of two intentional crimes: intentional murder and attempted murder. And guilt takes place both in the form of intent and negligence. Or maybe you meant a legal mistake? So that does not matter at all for qualification, that intentional, that unintentionally crimes. Has something to do with? Therefore, I believe that in the comments it is not worth talking about issues that require special knowledge, but about what is on the surface. And everyone understands. It happened, as for me, a unique event in world history. Officially liquidated, without a court verdict, a statesman of a sovereign state recognized by the UN. Moreover, the state was not at war with the United States. This has never happened before. No, of course, as a result of terrorist attacks and special operations, many foreign statesmen were killed: John and Robert Kennedy, Indira Gandhi, Zia ul Haq, Franz Ferdinand, Benazir Bhutto, Anwar Sadat, Rathenau, Sisi and many others. They also killed during the uprisings, revolutions of many of the first persons of the state: Nicholas ll, Ceausescu, Mussolini, Louis, Karl, etc. Ambassadors, with might and main sent to the other world. But to be like this .... No, I don’t remember. This is some new page of diplomatic clarification of relations. Therefore, events will develop quite predictably. The states made it clear to Iran that Rowhani could just as well send to another world, if that is not so. Essentially, Iran was invited to shut up with all the consequences of the reluctance to do so. Iran is trying to reduce everything to punishment for those who attack on a civilian side. He did not declare war, and there was no proper response. After all, one cannot call the answer, shelling the base with a warning about this. And the states, once said “a,” should say “b.” Carthage, that is, Iran must be destroyed. Moreover, the reason is the downed civilian side, just gorgeous. Here Iran maneuvers: it plants, and then executes, if it succeeds in guilty, and at the same time opponents. Say, try, prevent. And we have nothing to do with it, the mistake came out. Well don't touch us. By the way, a mistake, it came out, frankly. Here are the demos. The truth is still weak. But dashing trouble began ... It seems that Iran has problems. And the Ayatollah’s landings won’t get off. The Americans set a precedent unprecedented in international practice. We are waiting for the next move. And he will be. Washington seems to have planned everything. And today there is no force on earth that can, and most importantly, wants to oppose itself to the United States. Interestingly, after the elimination of the Ayatollah regime, will there be calm on BV, or will there be a remake of ISIS?
    3. Sirocco 14 January 2020 15: 23 New
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      Quote: Victor_B
      The guilty must be punished!

      Are you sure? Remind you of a similar case in the Russian Army to a Chechen company? GRUSHNIKOV (Ulman) dragged for the fact that they complied with the order, and DEBT, And about Budanov to remind you? With this approach, no one will serve in the army. And as an example, the US Army, try to condemn a soldier there, torment dust swallow in wet weather.
  2. bessmertniy 14 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    A man said a man did. You can be sure that Rohani will fulfill his word - the guilty will be punished.
    1. Bshkaus 14 January 2020 12: 43 New
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      You can be sure that Rohani will fulfill his word - the guilty will be punished.

      He has no other choice, otherwise Iran will become an outcast in the eyes of the whole world (not the United States and its sixes). Ordinary countries that do not suffer from megalomania really do not like such jokes.
      1. BARKAS 14 January 2020 14: 00 New
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        It could very well be a conspiracy just with the USA that they even shot down a plane very suitable for this.
  3. Livonetc 14 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    The case takes a serious and real turn.
    1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 12: 15 New
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      explain? Like already hushed up the matter
      1. Livonetc 14 January 2020 12: 30 New
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        In turn, did not understand what actually hushed up?
        "on the dock will be everyone who is somehow connected with striking a passenger airliner"
        This is a statement by the first person of the state.
        The whole chain of those responsible is brought to the answer.
        Arrested a number of military personnel belonging to the military elite of Iran (IRGC).
        1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 12: 42 New
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          but whoever sits there doesn’t care for everyone, they will find extreme
          will pay relatives and for the plane and the case is hushed up
          1. Livonetc 14 January 2020 12: 50 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            but whoever sits there doesn’t care for everyone, they will find extreme
            will pay relatives and for the plane and the case is hushed up

            I don’t care at all.
            Iran’s international authority and its economic interests are at stake.
            Feeing relatives is a "standard" mandatory consequence, and not a "jamming" of the case.
            The perpetrators will be held criminally liable under the laws of the Islamic Republic of Iran, to the extent of the personal liability identified by the investigation and established by the court.
            Well, how do you think responsibility should be ensured in this case?
            1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 13: 04 New
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              will be planted further what? Iran's authority and so long below
              1. Livonetc 14 January 2020 13: 15 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                will be planted further what? Iran's authority and so long below

                Formulate, in your opinion, a fair measure of Iran’s responsibility?
                What actions should Iran take?
                And about the authority of Iran I do not agree with you.
                The Islamic Republic of Iran, one of the few states in the world that have retained their subjectivity in world politics.
                1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 13: 34 New
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                  They will put the guilty, they will pay everything to everyone and it will end, only another half a year the USA will scream
              2. tihonmarine 14 January 2020 13: 34 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                will be planted further what? Iran's authority and so long below

                “Ayatolat” will come to an end, democrats will win. And spit on the authority of all.
                1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 13: 38 New
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                  only these democrats the cat cried yes they are not so much and differ from conservatives
                  1. tihonmarine 14 January 2020 13: 52 New
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                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    only these democrats the cat cried

                    But they have the support of the Americans.
                    1. borberd 14 January 2020 14: 02 New
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                      They don’t have it, because the Americans know that the only difference between them is that the “democrats” wear European costumes and smile, and conservatives wear local bathrobes and turban and do not smile.
                    2. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 14: 13 New
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                      Americans haven’t been able to change the regime through them for many years
        2. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 12: 53 New
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          Quote: Livonetc
          Arrested a number of military personnel belonging to the military elite of Iran (IRGC).

          apparently this is the main
      2. vladcub 14 January 2020 12: 37 New
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        Who told you that they hushed up? On the contrary, the business begins
        1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 12: 44 New
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          they will pay relatives for the plane and the case is hushed up and what else?
          1. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 12: 53 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            and the case is hushed up and what else?

            power in Iran
            1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 13: 07 New
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              and who will change it? Iranians mainly support their leadership, only a small percentage of the opposition is buzzing
              1. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 13: 58 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                only a small percentage of the opposition is buzzing

                in Ukraine, the majority of the Bandera ?!
                or maybe in 91, the majority voted for the collapse of the USSR
                ALWAYS ALL RESOLVES AN ACTIVE MINORITY
                1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 14: 14 New
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                  there the conservatives have an active majority, the IRGC is many millions ready for anything
                  1. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 14: 15 New
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                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    there the conservatives have an active majority

                    Do not specify how many percent the Bolsheviks had ?!
                    As for those who are ready for anything, the Orthodox Russian people crushed the churches with frenzy that I won’t be surprised at anything
                    1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 15: 38 New
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                      the comparison is not correct, because Iran is full of fanatics
                      1. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 15: 39 New
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                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        the comparison is not correct, because Iran is full of fanatics

                        quite pralny
                      2. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 15: 43 New
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                        wait and see. will see
            2. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 14: 08 New
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              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              and who will change it?

              so for information, people haven’t changed anyone anywhere, they’re changed by specific people of specific people
        2. AlexG83 14 January 2020 13: 29 New
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          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          they will pay relatives for the plane and the case is hushed up and what else?

          Yes, and where does the payment, it’s generally a different matter, it turned out that in military circles there is an incomprehensible bedlam and mess. Serious problems were revealed. All upside down will be turned over and disassembled.
          1. Nastia makarova 14 January 2020 13: 37 New
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            it’s good that they’ll put things in order at home
        3. Bukhalov 14 January 2020 14: 25 New
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          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          they will pay relatives for the plane and the case is hushed up and what else?

          I would pay attention to the phrase of Rouhani, saying that "Do not worry Kozlodeev, they will sit down with a mustache!" The medieval laws of Iran, such as a dress code on the streets, a ban on the presence of women in stadiums, public executions, a ban on European music, the death penalty for adultery, prohibition and other medieval unwise joys, began to annoy the population. All the same, the 21st century is in the yard. The ayatollah has a good chance to deal with opponents. Disguised as a tragedy with a Boeing. Moreover, under torture, prisoners admit anything. Recall the leader of all times and peoples of Joseph Vissarionovich. And the reaction of the masses to the executions of enemies of the people. Andrei Yanuaryevich’s speeches of the type: “Our Soviet people are asking for one thing: crush the damned reptile!” And all and all admitted, repented.
          And the roar of the crowd .... At the same calculation in Iran. Not bread, so circuses. It is possible, and it is very likely that evidence will be received that the airliner was shot down on the orders of the United States, personally Trump and Israel, personally Netanyahu. After all, at first it was already "found" by eyewitnesses who saw that the Boeing was falling with a burning engine, Iranian data were published about the malfunction of the plane returning to the port, damage to the memory block of the "black boxes." And then they suddenly decided that there was no happiness, but misfortune helped. And they admitted that they had shot down the civilian side of Aspids. Now they will expose the agents of world Zionism and American imperialism. And those appointed guilty will be hanged on the hook of a crane. Pre-carving in the square.
          As is customary in this entertaining theocratic medieval panopticon.
          1. asv363 14 January 2020 15: 47 New
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            Quote: Bukhalov
            prohibiting the presence of women in stadiums

            Allowed last year. There is even a women's football team and, I could be mistaken, its own championship. There are female football coaches. Athletes from Iran take part in various types of martial arts.
            1. Bukhalov 14 January 2020 16: 12 New
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              I did not finish, I repent. Used data for the last 40 years and in particular for 2018. True, the solution is half-hearted: tickets are sold to women according to quotas, presence on separate stands from men, dress code again. But the fact itself, after almost half a century of discrimination, is encouraging.
          2. gor999 15 January 2020 04: 01 New
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            TO Bukhalov: And you, not a smart person, do not mind the even more cruel rules and laws in Arab countries (UAE, KSA, Qatar, etc.)
    2. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 12: 40 New
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      I think that everything is just beginning, one of the leaders who had real power was killed, we are following events taking place that put power in a very negative light, further protests, I won’t be surprised if Iran changes its course and leadership in the next six months or a year
    3. knn54 14 January 2020 12: 54 New
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      It looks like a showdown is going upstairs, and NON-JUST.
      1. dzvero 14 January 2020 13: 43 New
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        "Night of long knives" in the desecration of the ayatollah regarding the IRGC? Quite possible. The media flashed infa that in Yemen, the Americans tried to kill another leader of the IRGC. On the same day as Suleimani. But they couldn’t ...
        1. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 14: 12 New
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          Quote: dzvero
          in the use of Ayatollah regarding the IRGC?

          in relation to Ayatollah in connection with the elimination of the IRGC
        2. asv363 14 January 2020 14: 40 New
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          The IRGC is directly subordinate to the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Why would he "eliminate" the IRGC?
          1. dzvero 14 January 2020 15: 04 New
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            Maybe they tried to dictate their will? Or even intercept the rule of the country? How to know ...
          2. vladcub 14 January 2020 19: 46 New
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            And if ayatola can no longer control the situation?
          3. Barmaleyka 14 January 2020 21: 19 New
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            and the ksir will not remove the ayatollah, just apparently the supreme want to deprive weapons and protection
            1. asv363 14 January 2020 21: 44 New
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              How to tell you, Vladimir. I do not know the internal Iranian forces that can do this. External players are not capable of this.
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                everyone thought about the USSR as well, but for thirty years we have been living without it
                sixth seventh wanted to be the first and cranked
  4. Bshkaus 14 January 2020 12: 45 New
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    The case takes a serious and real turn.

    And it should be so for granted.
    I have a serious rebuke from Iranian air defense:
    1- Did they never see and do not know how civilian take-off planes appear on their radar?
    2-Even if they confused the plane with the Kyrgyz Republic, did they at least once see a target for which only one missile stands out? They themselves let two two ...
    1. Usher 14 January 2020 12: 49 New
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      Quote: Bshkaus
      The case takes a serious and real turn.

      And it should be so for granted.
      I have a serious rebuke from Iranian air defense:
      1- Did they never see and do not know how civilian take-off planes appear on their radar?
      2-Even if they confused the plane with the Kyrgyz Republic, did they at least once see a target for which only one missile stands out? They themselves let two two ...

      if special warhead then one is enough. Also, the Yapis did not pay attention to the lonely B-29
    2. AlexVas44 14 January 2020 13: 19 New
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      It must be assumed that this degree (goal recognition) their l / composition trained. It seems that the Boeing was shot down intentionally.
      1. borberd 14 January 2020 14: 08 New
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        Quote: AlexVas44
        It seems that the Boeing was shot down intentionally.

        Also came to this conclusion.
    3. 72jora72 14 January 2020 13: 50 New
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      And it should be so for granted.
      I have a serious rebuke from Iranian air defense:
      1- Did they never see and do not know how civilian take-off planes appear on their radar?
      2-Even if they confused the plane with the Kyrgyz Republic, did they at least once see a target for which only one missile stands out? They themselves let two two ...
      This is a very muddy story with an airplane, a lot of small details that look strange, such as strange airplane maneuvers during take-off, or a video that was taken (the feeling that they knew exactly what to shoot). And in general, to come up with a better reason for everyone to forget about the murder of Kassem Suleimani is not real, it very well diverted attention. And then the protests in Iran over the shot down plane ........... It’s strange like that.
  • Thrifty 14 January 2020 12: 11 New
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    More and more oddities in this story with an airplane! I am sure that there is a treaty under which Iran does not receive REAL sanctions in exchange for its "complaisance" in "recognition" of the downing of an ukroinsky plane!
    1. cniza 14 January 2020 13: 31 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      More and more oddities in this story with an airplane! I am sure that there is a treaty under which Iran does not receive REAL sanctions in exchange for its "complaisance" in "recognition" of the downing of an ukroinsky plane!


      It is a possible option, only Iran has forgotten with whom it is trying to negotiate, the United States will still twist and substitute everything, which is already happening.
  • svp67 14 January 2020 12: 12 New
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    In Iran, reported the arrest of the military involved in the attack on the Boeing
    They are now in the role of "switchmen". And the one who decided not to cover the sky of Iran, knowing that the military is preparing to repel a possible retaliatory air strike by the Americans, will sit next to them in the dock?
    Or did he know that there WILL NOT be a hit
    1. Private Starley 14 January 2020 12: 17 New
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      That would be to put on the dock, the one who threatened to bomb Iranian cities ...
    2. bouncyhunter 14 January 2020 12: 45 New
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      Quote: svp67
      he knew that there WILL NOT be a hit

      So the reason looks right. IMHO.
      1. cniza 14 January 2020 13: 29 New
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        Oh, how much we don’t know yet, and probably will never know. Good time! hi
        1. bouncyhunter 14 January 2020 13: 32 New
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          Mutually! hi
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          how much we don’t know yet

          "Many knowledge bring many troubles" (c)
          1. cniza 14 January 2020 13: 34 New
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            Only knowledge does not cause even greater troubles, it is necessary to bring everything to a logical conclusion on any issue, and when there is incompleteness, these postulates always shoot.
  • rocket757 14 January 2020 12: 14 New
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    The investigation continues, the result will be.
    1. vladcub 14 January 2020 12: 35 New
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      Something tells me that besides the trial in Iran, changes are coming, and which ones? And this is the most important thing.
      I now remembered Rafsanjani and his attempts to liberalize Iran
      1. rocket757 14 January 2020 12: 42 New
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        They rocked the situation and will continue to do the same. There is something to take, fuck from Iran. It gathered the interest of many. Quite calmly there will not be.
        1. cniza 14 January 2020 13: 27 New
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          Quote: vladcub
          Something tells me that besides the trial in Iran, changes are coming, and which ones? And this is the most important thing.
          I now remembered Rafsanjani and his attempts to liberalize Iran


          There may be chaos, as in Iraq and Libya ...
          1. rocket757 14 January 2020 13: 57 New
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            There may be chaos, as in Iraq and Libya ...

            Everything happens, especially not for the first time! So far, the system, although it does not look perfect \ good, is quite stable ... however, it is EAST! Everything can be.
            1. cniza 14 January 2020 15: 07 New
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              And so fast that it’s hard to even believe ... yes
          2. vladcub 14 January 2020 18: 22 New
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            This is just annoying. Imagine that the owner died in the next apartment and there are a lot of different heirs who do not like each other. There it will begin, that even take out the saints. Do you like this prospect?
            1. cniza 14 January 2020 21: 39 New
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              And who may like it, but we need to make decisions ...
      2. svp67 14 January 2020 12: 59 New
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        I now remembered Rafsanjani and his attempts to liberalize Iran

        It is very likely that Ayatollah’s power will be shaken
        1. Sergej1972 14 January 2020 14: 19 New
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          The power of Rahbar and Ayatollah. Ayatollah in Iran a lot.
  • cherkas.oe 14 January 2020 12: 22 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    So it should be with everyone except the Americans (Iranian A-300) and Ukrainians (Tu-154 and MN-17).

    Offset sarcasm, just not everyone understood, minus however.
  • cherkas.oe 14 January 2020 12: 27 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Or did he know that there WILL NOT be a hit

    The one who knew, now will judge those who did not know how we have, remember the story of Rust, only we have not been shot down and for this a lot of people who could withstand the collapse of the Union were shot
  • Reserve buildbat 14 January 2020 12: 37 New
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    Interestingly, the Iranians arrest those responsible for the downing of the civilian side, and the mattresses are awarded.
  • Usher 14 January 2020 12: 50 New
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    So then should Trump sit on the bench? So what? Who made all the porridge?
  • voyaka uh 14 January 2020 13: 11 New
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    The Ayatollahs showed the world that they have brakes, that they are not "crazy fanatics."
    This is encouraging. good
    1. Livonetc 14 January 2020 13: 18 New
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      So.
      But the US leadership has proved that they are primarily interested in clan domestic political interests, to which they are ready to sacrifice any countries and values.
      1. cniza 14 January 2020 13: 25 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        The Ayatollahs showed the world that they have brakes, that they are not "crazy fanatics."
        This is encouraging. good


        Not just brakes, but reason and balance in actions.
    2. iouris 14 January 2020 23: 10 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Ayatollahs showed the world that they have brakes

      Is Trump Ayatollah Also?
  • 7,62h54 14 January 2020 13: 13 New
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    If the target was not a Boeing, but a missile, and the air defense would not have hit it, the punishment also followed.
  • Ros 56 14 January 2020 13: 21 New
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    As usual, the switchman is to blame, well, well.
  • cniza 14 January 2020 13: 24 New
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    At the same time, it was stated that two Tor anti-aircraft missiles from “one of the secret bases of the IRGC” were fired at it at a short interval.


    Specialists, tell me who doesn’t understand what would happen to a civilian ship if two missiles of the Tor complex hit it? In my opinion, it would be torn to shreds still in the air.
    1. Avior 14 January 2020 14: 51 New
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      Unlikely
      Torah warhead 14 kg, it does not have very large missiles
      Depends on how far the detonation was and the relative position and trajectory of the rocket and the plane
  • betta 14 January 2020 13: 29 New
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    And I think you can’t punish. Otherwise, when a real rocket flies, no one will dare to repulse the attack.
  • Strashila 14 January 2020 13: 45 New
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    "The representative of the Supreme Judicial Corps of Iran, Golyamkhossein Esmaily, noted that several military personnel have been arrested at the moment."
    All instructions are written in blood, classic.
    On the one hand, it’s even good, witnesses will be protected.
    All the same, you have to wait for the decision of the commission to decrypt the aircraft recorders.
    Now emotions are going through the roof.
    The Iranians need to stop.
    They have done a minimum and there is no need to do too much, which they will later regret.
    The commission’s decision to wait and only after that to do something.
  • borberd 14 January 2020 13: 52 New
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    The scapegoats were arrested. Those who gave the order are sitting at the very top, so they will not be touched. I will never believe that there were no duplicate communication systems at the military base in Tehran.
  • Paul Siebert 14 January 2020 13: 54 New
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    When I hear such news, conflicting feelings tear me apart.
    On the one hand, the perpetrators must be punished.
    On the other hand, I remember how treacherously dealt with Colonel Budanov.
    God forbid none of us get into such millstones. Will erase.
    And the right and the guilty ...
  • Air force 14 January 2020 14: 18 New
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    It is interesting, purely hypothetically, whether such a situation is possible, such as the introduction of agents in the IRGC and in the name of defeating the regime, they bring down the Boeing, of course, take the blame and take the punishment, again in the name of victory, thereby acting as an expendable material, but their actions discredit Iran. And there appears a motive for the buildup of the situation inside Iran, because during the assassination of the general, society in Iran rallied against a common enemy, and here, by the way, the plane crash for the opposition. Like in Turkey there, after all, the military also acted against Erdogan.
  • alien 14 January 2020 15: 08 New
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    And the one who decided not to cover the sky of Iran, knowing that the military is preparing to repel a possible retaliatory air-missile strike by the Americans, will sit next to them in the dock?
    Yes, most likely, these are exactly what should be punished, because give permission to take off the side, knowing in advance that it can be shot down - a crime. It's like hiding behind children before an attack ...
  • alien 14 January 2020 15: 50 New
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    Another point that no one pays attention to: surely both the pilots and passengers of the ship knew about Iran’s attack on American bases in Iraq more than an hour later ... They knew in what conditions they were going to take off. Well, really, the instinct of self-preservation did not work for anyone? Why did the commander not refuse to fly in such conditions? Why was the flight delayed for only an hour ?.
    1. vladcub 14 January 2020 19: 19 New
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      Pilots are bonded people: they will order, they will fly. In addition, several planes flew before their eyes and safely. If this happened before them then of course, they will not
  • Old26 14 January 2020 16: 38 New
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    Quote: cniza
    At the same time, it was stated that two Tor anti-aircraft missiles from “one of the secret bases of the IRGC” were fired at it at a short interval.


    Specialists, tell me who doesn’t understand what would happen to a civilian ship if two missiles of the Tor complex hit it? In my opinion, it would be torn to shreds still in the air.

    Thor has low-power missiles with remote detonation. The weight of the EMNIP warhead is about 14 kg. Now, if a pair of missiles from the "Square" hit the liner, it would be in pieces. Nevertheless, each warhead has 57 kg.
  • Losharik 14 January 2020 16: 43 New
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    Bribed them most likely for a lot of money .. FOR VERY BIG!
  • Korg 14 January 2020 17: 05 New
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    How to convince the Iranians that it was not they who shot down a Boeing? An ugly story turns out to substitute allies. After all, it was possible to publish pictures of the Amer drone attack on a Boeing or listen to the controller Carlos, in the end! It was possible to order an expertise from Almaz-Antey that this is not a Russian-made rocket, but simply defective engines from a Boeing! Eh, in fact, Russia has only two reliable allies who will not betray - these are the Tor-M1 air defense systems and the Buk-M1 air defense systems!
  • vladcub 14 January 2020 18: 54 New
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    I now remembered Rafsanjani and his attempts to liberalize Iran

    It is very likely that Ayatollah’s power will be shaken

    Most likely, ayatola no longer controls the situation. In this case, an interesting multi-step looms: Suleimani (the support of the ayatola) was removed by the hands of the Americans, injects hysteria with revenge to America, and then the IRG support of the ayatola was framed. The only thing is not clear why they chose the Ukrainian side?
    What is all this VISIBLE
  • vladcub 14 January 2020 19: 04 New
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    quite a few

    Unless it's a malicious intent
  • vladcub 14 January 2020 19: 42 New
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    it’s good that they’ll put things in order at home

    At what price and what will be the consequences? Would you try to analyze the consequences
  • alien 14 January 2020 22: 31 New
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    Pilots are bonded people: they will order, they will fly. In addition, several planes flew before their eyes and safely.
    The devil is in the details ... At 02:42:47 the plane took off from the runway. According to CNN, the strikes were delivered at around 02:00 local time. Which planes landed or took off during this period of time? There is no data.