The Navy has decided on the names of the first two UDC, planned for laying in Kerch

The first domestic universal landing ships, scheduled for May this year, will be named “Sevastopol” and “Vladivostok,” which were previously intended for Mistral-type helicopter carriers ordered from France. This decision was made by the General Staff of the Russian Navy, TASS reports citing a source in the military-industrial complex.

The main headquarters of the Navy decided to name the first Russian UDC "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok". Previously, such names were assigned to two Mistral helicopter carriers ordered from France.

- the agency leads the words of the source.

According to another source, both ships will be laid at the Zaliv shipyard in Crimea in early May in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory Day. The laying ceremony will take place before May 9, 2020, but the exact date has not yet been determined.

It was previously reported that two UDCs will be laid at the Gulf Shipyard in May 2020. The lead ship will be part of the Russian Navy by 2027 of the year, the first production ship by 2030 of the year. Initially, the displacement of ships should not exceed 15 thousand tons, and the number of helicopters on board - no more than ten.

Later, information appeared that the Navy had finally decided on the parameters of the ships being laid. According to TASS, citing sources in the shipbuilding industry, ships will receive a displacement of 25 thousand tons.

It is planned that the UDC will carry 20 heavy helicopters and will be able to carry up to two battalions of marines with a total number of up to 900 people.

Comments

[Artemiy_2]

There he is. Looks like a mistral

[donavi49]

Instead of the electric ship on the azipods, there is a classic drive (and the steering wheel is not visible, but it will be made, otherwise it will not be able to go without tugs).

Extensive add-on - according to current trends, it is no longer out of fashion.

6 sites - a classic for this class.

There are no shock weapons capable of crushing the AUG in one person and defensive in order to bring down 38 Hornets + 90 anti-ship missiles. In the end, what they criticized the Mistral, and here they did it the same way - MZA + dipped near loop. And then the main thing in the nose is grouped.

[Snail N9]

The Navy decided on the names of the first two UDC, planned to bookmark in Kerch

Yes, "to decide on the name" in this case is the most important thing, consider the ships are already, practically ready (exist). In any case, they will begin to appear in different types of documents ...

[Marconi41]

Quote: donavi49

There are no shock weapons capable of crushing the AUG in one person and defensive in order to bring down 38 Hornets + 90 anti-ship missiles. As a result, they criticized the Mistral, and here they did the same

I don’t understand you. Do you again want to make a cruiser from UDC? Such ships do not go unguarded, but they are entrusted with the task of removing obstacles from the UDC path. Look at ships of a similar class in the world. Do many of them carry the weapons you require?

[donavi49]

No! On the contrary, I am in favor of - the ship was minimally loaded with everything unnecessary for him for basic tasks.

I simply point out that the main complaint against Mistral, including on this site, is that any helicopter plane will sink it. Here, ours would have done wow !!!

So - as a result, the same Mistral came out on the concept of deploying weapons. This is just good overall.

[Marconi41]

Quote: donavi49

I simply point out that the main complaint against Mistral, including on this site, is that any helicopter plane will sink it. Here, ours would have done wow !!!

Then I'm sorry, I did not understand you.

[saturn.mmm]

What to bring down 38 hornets ....

This is a transformer, autobot.

[NEXUS]

Quote: donavi49

There are no shock weapons capable of crushing the AUG in one person and defensive in order to bring down 38 Hornets + 90 anti-ship missiles. In the end, what they criticized the Mistral, and here they did it the same way - MZA + dipped near loop. And then the main thing in the nose is grouped.

The project will be redrawn 100500 times. And I am sure that those pictures that are now being drawn on the Internet will have nothing in common with real UDC in hardware.

[TermNachTer]

You do not confuse warm with soft. UDC is being built, not an aircraft carrier or a URO cruiser. Still not one country, for all the years it has not been able to build a ship that combines the advantages of all types of ships. Battleship + aircraft carrier + torpedo boat + submarine.

[Thrifty]

Three to build! The third one is called "Joseph Stalin" !!!

[Astra wild]

And my opinion: V.I. Lenin, and the fourth Soviet Union

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Thrifty

Three to build! The third one is called "Joseph Stalin" !!!

Four !!! We need to build four. The fourth "Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich" .... !!! I don’t know what you don’t like about the names Vladivostok and Sevastopol ... Sea cities ... In each of these cities a new ship ...

[vladcub]

I just had a thought: we should use the TX Mistral. Agree that it would be foolish to "reinvent the wheel" again. Naturally, we cannot 100% repeat this project: 1) it is entirely "sharpened" for the French capabilities from the experience of the welder to the presence of paint
2) they probably chose for a long time where to build.
Honestly, I doubted that they would start this year: we are used to empty-blown blah blahs and inevitably skepticism will be

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Yes, I think that it will turn out no worse than in France. After all, we have trained in the construction of the Mistral.

[dik-nsk]

will give the names "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok", previously intended for helicopter carriers of the "Mistral" type

well, so that the second pancake is not lumpy!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: dik-nsk

well, so that the second pancake is not lumpy!

Yes for the sake of God Strengthening the power of the Russian fleet ...
Let me be accused again (although why am I going to deny the presumption of innocence) for anything, but how can a normal person read about:

TASS reports citing a source in the military-industrial complex.

Does this source have a name? Or is this name hidden in case of "Russian avos"?

According to another sourceBoth ships will be laid down at the Zaliv shipyard in Crimea in early May in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory Day. Bookmarking ceremony will be held until May 9, 2020 years but exact date not yet determined.

Right super-duper secret mission. On the street of Someone ... Maxim Someone ...
It is these spoons of tar that spoil the entire barrel of honey.

[Avior]

Conspiracy, however

[nm76]

By the way, you can still decide on the name, planned at one time, an orbital station on the moon.
It is possible to choose a name for the station being discussed in the future on Mars.

[knn54]

"Names from the Mistrals." Now we are waiting for May 9th. Or will it be laid earlier?

[Errr]

Quote: knn54

Now we are waiting for May 9. Or did they mortgage earlier?

Take your time. Freight trains on the Crimean Bridge with metal for the "Zaliv" will go only in July.

[Vadim Zhivov]

There, and water transport is working fine

[Errr]

A ferry is good, but a bridge is nevertheless more convenient.

[Vadim Zhivov]

I agree, but I thought you were kidding ,,, Mortgage sections by this time should be ready ...

[Errr]

Quote: VadimLives

Mortgage sections by this time should be ready ...

And this is good. You always need to do today what is possible, without putting off ... And preferably quietly, without a pump.

[ccsr]

Quote: Herrr

Take your time. Freight trains on the Crimean Bridge with metal for the "Zaliv" will go only in July.

Generally, metal for ships and bulky cargo was supplied to Zaliv by sea back in Soviet times, and not just by rail. Now tanks with oil products go to Crimea through the ferry crossing, so there is no problem now, and the bridge has nothing to do with it.

[Errr]

In Soviet times, the metal to Zaliv was obviously supplied from Mariupol, so it was very logical to transport it by sea. The dry-cargo ships went back with ore and flux. Now it would be simply not smart to carry out unnecessary transshipment, for example, in Novorossiysk only for the supply of metal to the Zaliv according to the previous "sea" scheme. And there really is no problem. The bridge will start working in full force and then not only rolling, but even oil products will be delivered to Crimea and Sevastopol exclusively by rail. As a result, they even promise a fall in prices for supplied goods.

[ccsr]

Quote: Herrr

In Soviet times, the metal to Zaliv was obviously supplied from Mariupol, so it was very logical to ship it by sea.

Not only from Mariupol - during the construction of supertankers and warships there were contractors of more than 800 organizations from all over the USSR.

Quote: Herrr

The bulk carriers returned with ore and flux.

This is not entirely true - special self-propelled barges were used to transport sinter its temperature was about 300 C.

Quote: Herrr

But there really is no problem.

I completely agree with you - now the river-sea ships from the Volga even go to Turkey. So there is no problem to provide the "Zaliv" with metal.

[Errr]

Thank you very much for the information on the transportation of hot sinter by self-propelled barges. 300 ° С. Harshly. At the ZSMK sinter from the sinter plant to the blast furnace it rides on rubber bands of conveyors.
Only here on the transportation of rolled metal, I did not quite understand myself. From which of the Russian rolling mills can the latter be transported by "river-sea" vessels directly without transshipment in the port directly to the "Zaliv"?

[ccsr]

Quote: Herrr

From which of the Russian rolling mills can the latter be transported by "river-sea" vessels directly without transshipment in the port directly to the "Zaliv"?

I understand that from anyone with access to the Volga (Volgograd, Nizhny Novgorod), or even from the St. Petersburg plant.

[Hunter 2]

I understand that they chose the project UDC Surf? For some reason, there is no data in the article?

[novel66]

Lesh. Hello! leaped soul of the Marpeh? by the way, the names are jinxed already, in vain they are, again some kind of crap will be nito

[Hunter 2]

Hi Roman! Well, Duck Etoges Universal Landing Ship, according to the article, will be able to transport Two Marines Battalions , with good air support from 20 turntables!
Well, by name ... Call at least Pot, only do not put in the oven (s).

[The leader of the Redskins]

Sorry, but I'm in shock. That is, about proverbs when they say GOP and from which bear the skin is divided are no longer relevant? God forbid our manufacturers will cope with the tasks on time.
And then, as with Nasrudin - we scored a peg, it remains to buy a donkey ...

[ccsr]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

God forbid our manufacturers will cope with the tasks on time.

In fact, Zaliv has revived in recent years, and this is clearly seen in the construction of housing for the plant's employees and in the car parking in front of the entrance. Taking into account the fact that supertankers were built there in the seventies under 180 thousand tons, and the fact that shipbuilders from other Russian enterprises can be invited there, I do not see any technical obstacles. In general, a project and financing are needed, but the equipment and production facilities for the start of construction are already available. I think that the ships will be built on time, perhaps with a slight delay, as is the case for large projects.
Although the combat use of such ships for our fleet is a big question due to the fact that we are not going to fight on foreign territory by conventional means.

[Astra wild]

"car parking in front of the entrance" - "the prosperity of the company can be judged by the number and quality of cars standing nearby" (G. Ford 1)

[ccsr]

Quote: Astra wild

"the prosperity of a company can be judged by the quantity and quality of cars standing nearby" (G. Ford 1)

I can’t say anything about the quality of the cars at Zaliv, but the fact that there is a new large parking lot, and dozens of cars are parked along the road, I saw last summer when I went to the beach.

[Astra wild]

So the situation in Zaliv is good?
Do you happen to have no comrades - shipbuilders? I wonder how they assess the situation with their company?
P
S
Perhaps you or one of your colleagues knows: who is currently running the "Zaliv"?
Somewhere there was information that "Pela" and "Zelenodolsk" began to manage the Crimean shipyards, but who and where?

[ccsr]

Quote: Astra wild

So the situation in Zaliv is good?

Regarding the Ukrainian period, it’s quite safe, the factory’s buildings are glazed, overhead cranes are working, in general, it can be seen from the outside that the factory has come out of stagnation.

Quote: Astra wild

Perhaps you or one of your colleagues knows: who is currently running the "Zaliv"?

Unfortunately, I am not so familiar with the plant itself to know the current information. But I know that some builders of the bridge from other regions got a job there, apparently for a reason.

Quote: Astra wild

Somewhere there was information that "Pela" and "Zelenodolsk" began to manage the Crimean shipyards,

I also heard about cooperation, but at what level I don’t know for sure, although I was always proud of this plant and was interested in its fate.

[ccsr]

Quote: Astra wild

"car parking in front of the entrance" - "the prosperity of the company can be judged by the number and quality of cars standing nearby" (G. Ford 1)

By the way, here is a photo of a new residential building built for the workers of the Zaliv plant. In addition to it, some more former dormitories have been repaired and the infrastructure of the plant itself is being restored, i.e. they took up the "Zaliv" seriously and for a long time. And this is good news - we will also build their own supertankers and ships of the Arctic class in Kerch.

[Bykov.]

What is the UDC project?

[Artemiy_2]

See picture above

[Bykov.]

Quote: Artemiy_2

See picture above

In any case, there is not much time to wait. In the spring they will tell you more.

[Errr]

Quote: Bulls.

What is the UDC project?

Obviously this is the Surf project. The model is in the photo below.

Details can be found at:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Универсальные_десантные_корабли_типа_«Прибой»
I just want to joke kindly about the fact that the "Zaliv" now will have a very decent "Surf".

[Moonsund]

"Nothing" and "Nowhere" while they have a name. It will appear when there is at least some piece of iron, about which you can break the bottle. Until then, the virtual universe of effective

[Chaldon48]

Remember: "Hope is our earthly compass, and luck is a reward for courage." I think it's already good, we decided to start doing it. It remains to wish good luck.

[Avior]

.Hope dies last, Vera said, shooting Love

[Astra wild]

But I am against this: Faith, Hope, Love and mother Sophia - ETERNAL!

[Avior]

This is a joke in which there is some truth in life, unfortunately

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Moonsund

It will appear when there is at least some piece of iron about which the bottle can be broken.

Considering how much time is left before the bookmark, the "pieces of iron" are already there - they are sawing. If you wish, you can break the bottle, but I hope that at the enterprise where the "cutting" takes place,
dry law applies

[petrol cutter]

"Considering how much time is left before the bookmark, the" pieces of iron "are already there - they are sawing."
By the way, my colleagues moved to Kerch back in December (met the ex-team leader). I think why you suffered in Kerch, why not in St. Petersburg ?! (all are silent as partisans). It turns out that it is! ... There’s what's the matter. The picture is piled up at last.

[petrol cutter]

"Nothing" and "Nowhere" while they have a name. It will appear when there is at least some piece of iron, about which you can break the bottle. Until then, the virtual universe of effective "
The bottle is beaten when the ship is lowered into the water.
A bookmark usually means that a section of the body (usually the bottom one) has already been assembled and it is already solemnly to fasten a plate to it. Or maybe even the block is assembled! Here, when, how ...
Based on this, I can conclude as a shipbuilder that the construction of ships is in full swing at this stage, the Muscovites began to earn normal money. And I'm happy for them. Taki Kerch from us, some eighty kilometers. You look and we will have a celebration of life.

[rocket757]

The first domestic universal amphibious assault ships, the laying of which is scheduled for May of this year, will be named Sevastopol and Vladivostok, previously intended for Mistral-class helicopter carriers ordered from France.

If everything goes as it should, promptly ... it will be BEAUTIFUL!
The boom is hoping this will happen.

[Alexey-74]

Finally, some clarity! Of course, by modern standards, we will build for a long time, but to begin with what is necessary. God grant that everything would work out for Russia!

[New Year day]

happy that KERCH will build!

[bessmertniy]

Of course. There is no sense in relying on France or other countries in such a case.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Silvestr

happy that KERCH will build!

Yes, it would be good if everything comes true, otherwise the Zaliv shipyard is completely underloaded with work.
For 3 years in a row I watched the plant from the Arshintsevskaya Spit, everything looked very sluggish even judging by the flow of workers per shift and from shift. I even posted pictures to Anton when he posted articles about "The Bay", it's a pity that the guy was banned.

[Romka]

The most difficult step is the first!

[Astra wild]

Sylvester, excuse my curiosity: Are you a shipbuilder? I wonder: besides Kerch, where could such ships be built? ' Someone said that "Pela" has a lot of orders and they could not. I know (heard): "Star", Sang, Zelenodolsk

[New Year day]

Quote: Astra wild

Sylvester, sorry for the curiosity: Are you a shipbuilder?

No. I just follow the success of Crimea
As for the shipyards, there are no similar Zaliv, except in Severodvinsk

[Piramidon]

TASS reports with reference to source in the military-industrial complex.

According to another the source,

Previously reported

Information appeared later

Some suspicious "sources". Very similar to the messages from the "OBS Agency".

[Invoce]

If you read between the lines, Russia put on sanctions, on not smart French (and they returned the money and lost their reputation) and is developing its own shipbuilding in Crimea, on the Black Sea. If someone asks about Nikolaev shipyards, then since the 90s nothing has been laid there. At the very least, but something is changing for the better. Not all at once, but there is hope

[Freeman]

Invoce Today, 10:34 AM
If someone asks about Nikolaev shipyards, then since 90s nothing was laid there.

Nikolaev Shipbuilding Plant (Ukrainian. Mikola Shipbuilding Plant, former Shipbuilding Plant named after 61 Communards).
Last shipbuilding order in 2005-2007
The plant built four 89-meter multi-purpose dry cargo vessels for the Spanish company Factoria Naval de marin

https://web.archive.org/web/20160304192442/http://www.vn.mk.ua/stories.php?id=2201

And then, yes - "Byada-pichal".

[Paul Siebert]

Well - half the battle is done. Name came up!
Now the nonsense is left - to build!

[Gardamir]

And why build? The name is enough.

[RUSS]

Quote: Gardamir

And why build? The name is enough.

There are also layouts!

[nm76]

By the way, if you come up with names for a couple of aircraft carriers, then we will become a great sea power ...

[tlauicol]

Wow! Well done, managers write yourself a prize!

The main headquarters of the Navy decided to name the first Russian UDC "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok". Previously, such names were assigned to two Mistral helicopter carriers ordered from France.

and then rename Anwar Sadat and Abtel Nasser - once the time comes for the Egyptians to change ships

[ccsr]

Quote: Tlauicol

and then rename Anwar Sadat and Abtel Nasser - once the time comes for the Egyptians to change ships

By the way, this is not such a bad idea, especially taking into account the needs of those unstable countries where there is a coastline and some rebels are constantly demanding something there. If we can create ships of this class at the best price and great opportunities, then for several orders there will be buyers in the same SEA or in Africa.

[Paul Siebert]

What an interesting time we live in!
We come up with the names. Unbuilded ships ...
May suggest to our shipbuilders to christen one of them - "Nebuchadonossor"!
In honor of the chosen Neo, Captain Morpheus and their girlfriend Trinity?
Jews, as soon as they read such a name on board our UDC, they will immediately run away and hide.
This is in their genetics.

[Ka-52]

Regarding the assignment of the name above, the commentators who unsubscribed probably think that their petrosyania is drawn, if not to sarcasm, then to humor. It would be better to read the story that the assignment of a name to a ship since the time of the Russian Empire occurs either at the stage of a draft design, or (in extreme cases) at the time of laying. For example, the famous battleship "Petropavlovsk" was named a few months before it was laid down at the St. Petersburg shipyard. Perhaps these fans of Evgeny Vaganovich think that the ship gets the name at the moment it leaves the slipway?

[vladcub]

Quote: Chaldon48

Remember: "Hope is our earthly compass, and luck is a reward for courage." I think it's already good, we decided to start doing it. It remains to wish good luck.

A good song, let's hope that everything comes true

[Ros 56]

Well, not bad. A series of fun in the number of cities located between them such as Vladik and Seva.

[Grits]

Quote: Ros 56

Well, not bad.

In any case, fair

[senima56]

Finally, "Zaliv" will receive an order worthy of its capabilities! Good luck to the factory workers!

[CommanderDIVA]

Apparently the main water area for the use of these UDCs will be the Mediterranean Sea, based in Tartus, with an eye to control the coast of African countries with oil and gas reserves (Libya, possibly Algeria), if there is an opportunity to enter the Red Sea via the Suez Canal, it will be possible to regain its former influence over Fr. Socotra (our marines were based under the USSR) and over the Bab-El-Mandeb Strait with access to the Indian Ocean

[Grits]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Apparently the main water area for the use of these UDCs will be the Mediterranean Sea based in Tartus

I think that there will be only one. The second one will go to the Far East. Kuril Islands must also be protected

[Vladimir1155]

udk is not able to protect anyone, but he himself requires protection, and he does not have his tasks, the fifth wheel in the cart

[Grits]

Quote: vladimir1155

udk is not able to protect anyone, but he himself requires protection, and he does not have his tasks, the fifth wheel in the cart

I mean that if the UDC is to guard the forces of the fleet, then, accordingly, they will a priori protect the territories where they will operate. The same Kuril Islands, for example. It seems to me that if he appears at the Pacific Fleet, it is between Vladivostok and Kamchatka that he will most of all ply.

[Vladimir1155]

a rather strange logic to build an unnecessary ship to guard it, and at the same time protect something else, for example, almost deserted islands, and why would it cruise there, is this new entertainment cruising?

[Grits]

Quote: vladimir1155

and why will he ply there, is this new entertainment plying?

Then, to prevent any narrow-film banzai from drooling once more on deserted islands

[Vladimir1155]

they don’t give a damn about this tub, the banzaev will be stopped only by the presence of a pair of Boreev at the Pacific Fleet

[Looking for]

will Tartus be in 10 years.?

[ccsr]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Apparently the main water area for the use of these UDCs will be the Mediterranean Sea based in Tartus,

Well, this is unlikely, because it is too expensive to keep such ships there, and combat training of sailors, marines and pilots should take place all year round not in the Mediterranean Sea, but in the Black Sea with the participation of all interacting ships. We are not so rich that to conduct full-fledged exercises at least twice a year in the Mediterranean Sea.

Quote: CommanderDIVA

with an eye to control the coast of African countries with oil and gas reserves

If only we are asked by the official governments of the states, because military assistance to Syria is already so expensive for us, and we do not need extra parasites. By the way, the more chaos there will be in oil and gas countries, the higher our incomes will be, which means we don’t have to go around with our reconciliation functions. This is sound cynicism, but we were not the first to use it.

[Protos]

Quote: vladcub

I just had a thought: we should use the TX Mistral. Agree that it would be foolish to "reinvent the wheel" again. Naturally, we cannot 100% repeat this project: 1) it is entirely "sharpened" for the French capabilities from the experience of the welder to the presence of paint
2) they probably chose for a long time where to build.

But nothing that the stern of Menstrual was cooked and painted with us ?!
And the electrical equipment, and communication with our control, and our weapon systems (foundations).
They will build according to the corrected documentation which (according to the contract) was given to us by the French!

[Korg]

For such a colossus - you need to build at least three tugboats in addition to carry along the oceans, in case the engines die again)))

[Losharik]

"Stalin" should be called, in spite of some in the West and inside the country .. Why should we keep silent and are ashamed of our history?

[Astra wild]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Well - half the battle is done. Name came up!
Now the nonsense is left - to build!

As a child, I heard from my mother: "that we should build a house: we will draw and we will live." So what do you think?

[Looking for]

It’s laid down, and in a couple of years it’ll be dismantled for metal on a slipway. It reminds me of the situation. As the world powers dozens of riveted dreadnoughts and superdreadnoughts. Spain (well, a country with a famous maritime history) scraped money for three NEDEDredoutnou and built it like that long. that by the time of their commissioning. they were already hopelessly outdated.

[petrol cutter]

Does that lay ships on a holiday? They set off quite wisely ...
The people at the parade, celebrating, you know. "Here, bam, second shift!"
Blow to the factory, put on your robe, climb onto the slipway (or where they will be laid there). Why all this insanity?!.

[Vladimir1155]

a fundamental mistake in general to build udk, minesweepers are needed

[Astra wild]

Quote: Avior

This is a joke in which there is some truth in life, unfortunately

I somehow do not like such jokes

[Magog]

"UDC type" Priboy "are intended for the reception, transportation and disembarkation of amphibious assault on the equipped and unequipped coast, with the involvement of both landing boats and helicopters." Can anyone explain in what geo-political tasks the Russian Navy orders such ships?