The Navy has decided on the names of the first two UDC, planned for laying in Kerch

The Navy has decided on the names of the first two UDC, planned for laying in Kerch

The first domestic universal landing ships, scheduled for May this year, will be named “Sevastopol” and “Vladivostok,” which were previously intended for Mistral-type helicopter carriers ordered from France. This decision was made by the General Staff of the Russian Navy, TASS reports citing a source in the military-industrial complex.


The main headquarters of the Navy decided to name the first Russian UDC "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok". Previously, such names were assigned to two Mistral helicopter carriers ordered from France.

- the agency leads the words of the source.

According to another source, both ships will be laid at the Zaliv shipyard in Crimea in early May in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory Day. The laying ceremony will take place before May 9, 2020, but the exact date has not yet been determined.

It was previously reported that two UDCs will be laid at the Gulf Shipyard in May 2020. The lead ship will be part of the Russian Navy by 2027 of the year, the first production ship by 2030 of the year. Initially, the displacement of ships should not exceed 15 thousand tons, and the number of helicopters on board - no more than ten.

Later, information appeared that the Navy had finally decided on the parameters of the ships being laid. According to TASS, citing sources in the shipbuilding industry, ships will receive a displacement of 25 thousand tons.

It is planned that the UDC will carry 20 heavy helicopters and will be able to carry up to two battalions of marines with a total number of up to 900 people.



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  1. Artemiy_2 14 January 2020 10: 12 New
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    There he is. Looks like a mistral
    1. donavi49 14 January 2020 11: 37 New
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      Instead of the electric ship on the azipods, there is a classic drive (and the steering wheel is not visible, but it will be made, otherwise it will not be able to go without tugs).

      Extensive add-on - according to current trends, it is no longer out of fashion.

      6 sites - a classic for this class.

      There are no shock weapons capable of crushing the AUG in one person and defensive in order to bring down 38 Hornets + 90 anti-ship missiles. In the end, what they criticized the Mistral, and here they did it the same way - MZA + dipped near loop. And then the main thing in the nose is grouped.
      1. Snail N9 14 January 2020 12: 03 New
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        The Navy decided on the names of the first two UDC, planned to bookmark in Kerch

        Yes- "determine the name" in this case, the most important thing is, count-ships are already almost ready (exist). In any case, they will begin to appear in various types of documents ... yes
      2. Marconi41 14 January 2020 12: 03 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        There are no shock weapons capable of crushing the AUG in one person and defensive in order to bring down 38 Hornets + 90 anti-ship missiles. As a result, they criticized the Mistral, and here they did the same

        I don’t understand you. Do you again want to make a cruiser from UDC? Such ships do not go unguarded, but they are entrusted with the task of removing obstacles from the UDC path. Look at ships of a similar class in the world. Do many of them carry the weapons you require?
        1. donavi49 14 January 2020 14: 23 New
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          No! On the contrary, I am in favor of - the ship was minimally loaded with everything unnecessary for him for basic tasks.

          I simply point out that the main complaint against Mistral, including on this site, is that any helicopter plane will sink it. Here, ours would have done wow !!!

          So - as a result, the same Mistral came out on the concept of deploying weapons. This is just good overall. good
          1. Marconi41 14 January 2020 15: 30 New
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            Quote: donavi49
            I simply point out that the main complaint against Mistral, including on this site, is that any helicopter plane will sink it. Here, ours would have done wow !!!

            Then I'm sorry, I did not understand you.
      3. saturn.mmm 14 January 2020 13: 59 New
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        What to bring down 38 hornets ....

        This is a transformer, autobot.
      4. NEXUS 14 January 2020 16: 20 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        There are no shock weapons capable of crushing the AUG in one person and defensive in order to bring down 38 Hornets + 90 anti-ship missiles. In the end, what they criticized the Mistral, and here they did it the same way - MZA + dipped near loop. And then the main thing in the nose is grouped.

        The project will be redrawn 100500 times. And I am sure that those pictures that are now being drawn on the Internet will have nothing in common with real UDC in hardware.
      5. TermNachTer 15 January 2020 23: 43 New
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        You do not confuse warm with soft. UDC is being built, not an aircraft carrier or a URO cruiser. Still not one country, for all the years it has not been able to build a ship that combines the advantages of all types of ships. Battleship + aircraft carrier + torpedo boat + submarine.
    2. Thrifty 14 January 2020 11: 57 New
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      Three must be built! The third is called "Joseph Stalin" !!! hi hi
      1. Astra wild 14 January 2020 16: 10 New
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        And my opinion: V.I. Lenin, and the fourth Soviet Union
      2. Xnumx vis 15 January 2020 20: 06 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        Three must be built! The third is called "Joseph Stalin" !!! hi hi

        Four !!! It is necessary to build four. The fourth "Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich" .... !!! I don’t know what you don’t like in the names Vladivostok and Sevastopol ... Sea cities ... In each of these cities a new ship ...
    3. vladcub 14 January 2020 12: 10 New
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      I just had a thought: they should use the Mistral TX. Agree that it would be foolish to “reinvent the wheel” again. Naturally, we cannot 100% repeat this project: 1) it is completely “sharpened” for the French capabilities from the experience of the welder to the presence of paint
      2) they probably chose for a long time where to build.
      Honestly, I doubted that they would start this year: we are used to empty-blown blah blahs and inevitably skepticism will be
      1. Dmitry Donskoy 14 January 2020 13: 49 New
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        Yes, I think that it will turn out no worse than in France. After all, we have trained in the construction of the Mistral. yes
  2. dik-nsk 14 January 2020 10: 14 New
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    will be named "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok", previously intended for helicopter carriers of the type "Mistral"
    well, so that the second pancake is not lumpy!
    1. Ross xnumx 14 January 2020 10: 24 New
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      Quote: dik-nsk
      well, so that the second pancake is not lumpy!

      Yes for the sake of God Strengthening the power of the Russian fleet ...
      Let me be accused again (although why am I going to deny the presumption of innocence) for anything, but how can a normal person read about:
      TASS reports citing a source in the military-industrial complex.

      Does this source have a name? Or is this name hidden in case of "Russian Avos"?
      According to another source, both ships will be laid at the Zaliv shipyard in Crimea in early May in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory Day. Bookmarking ceremony will be held until May 9, 2020 years but exact date not yet determined.

      fool Right super-duper secret mission. On the street of Someone ... Maxim Someone ...
      It is these spoons of tar that spoil the entire barrel of honey.
      1. Avior 14 January 2020 13: 40 New
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        Conspiracy, however
        smile
  3. nm76 14 January 2020 10: 14 New
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    By the way, you can still decide on the name, planned at one time, an orbital station on the moon.
    It is possible to choose a name for the station being discussed in the future on Mars.
  4. knn54 14 January 2020 10: 16 New
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    “Names from the Mistral.” Now we are waiting for May 9. Or are they mortgaged earlier?
    1. Errr 14 January 2020 13: 37 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Now we are waiting for May 9. Or did they mortgage earlier?
      Do not rush. Freight trains on the Crimean bridge with metal for the Gulf will go only in July.
      1. Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2020 17: 02 New
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        There, and water transport is working fine hi
        1. Errr 14 January 2020 18: 17 New
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          A ferry is good, but a bridge is nevertheless more convenient. hi
          1. Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2020 19: 35 New
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            I agree, but I thought you were kidding ,,, Mortgage sections by this time should be ready ... hi
            1. Errr 15 January 2020 06: 58 New
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              Quote: VadimLives
              Mortgage sections by this time should be ready ...
              And this is good. You always need to do today what is possible, without putting off ... And preferably quietly, without a pump. hi
      2. ccsr 14 January 2020 20: 00 New
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        Quote: Herrr
        Do not rush. Freight trains on the Crimean bridge with metal for the Gulf will go only in July.

        In fact, metal for ships and bulky goods were delivered to the Gulf by the sea in Soviet times, and not just by rail. Now in the Crimea, tanks with oil products go through the ferry, so there is no problem now, and the bridge has nothing to do with it.
        1. Errr 15 January 2020 06: 49 New
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          In Soviet times, metal was delivered to the Gulf from Mariupol, so it was very logical to carry it by sea. The bulk carriers returned with ore and flux. Now it would be simply not clever to carry out unnecessary transshipment, for example, in Novorossiysk only for transporting metal to the Gulf according to the previous “marine” scheme. But there really is no problem. The bridge will work in full force and then not only the rental, but even the oil products will come to the Crimea and Sevastopol exclusively by rail. As a result, they even promise a drop in prices for the supplied goods. wink
          1. ccsr 15 January 2020 11: 51 New
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            Quote: Herrr
            In Soviet times, metal was delivered to the Gulf from Mariupol, so it was very logical to carry it by sea.

            Not only from Mariupol - during the construction of supertankers and warships there were contractors of more than 800 organizations from all over the USSR.
            Quote: Herrr
            The bulk carriers returned with ore and flux.

            This is not entirely true - special self-propelled barges were used to transport sinter its temperature was about 300 C.
            Quote: Herrr
            But there really is no problem.

            I completely agree with you - now river-sea ships from the Volga even go to Turkey. So there is no problem providing the Gulf with metal.
            1. Errr 15 January 2020 12: 34 New
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              Thank you very much for the information on the transportation of hot sinter by self-propelled barges. hi 300 ° С. what Harshly. At the ZSMK sinter from the sinter plant to the blast furnace it rides on rubber bands of conveyors.
              Only here on the transportation of metal, I did not quite understand. Which of the Russian rolling mills can the latter be transported by river-sea vessels directly without transshipment in the port directly to the Gulf?
              1. ccsr 15 January 2020 13: 13 New
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                Quote: Herrr
                Which of the Russian rolling mills can the latter be transported by river-sea vessels directly without transshipment in the port directly to the Gulf?

                I understand that from anyone with access to the Volga (Volgograd, Nizhny Novgorod), or even from the St. Petersburg plant.
  5. Hunter 2 14 January 2020 10: 17 New
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    I understand that they chose the project UDC Surf? For some reason, there is no data in the article?
    1. novel66 14 January 2020 10: 28 New
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      Lesh. Hello! hi leaped soul of the Marpeh? by the way, the names are jinxed already, in vain they are, again some kind of crap will be nito
      1. Hunter 2 14 January 2020 10: 35 New
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        Hi Roman! hi Well, Duck Etoges Universal Landing Ship, according to the article, will be able to transport Two Marines Battalions good, with good air support from 20 turntables!
        Well, by name ... Call at least Pot, only do not put in the oven (s).
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  7. The leader of the Redskins 14 January 2020 10: 18 New
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    Sorry, but I'm in shock. That is, about proverbs when they say GOP and from which bear the skin is divided are no longer relevant? God forbid our manufacturers will cope with the tasks on time.
    And then, as with Nasrudin - we scored a peg, it remains to buy a donkey ...
    1. ccsr 14 January 2020 13: 09 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      God forbid our manufacturers will cope with the tasks on time.

      Actually, the “Gulf” has revived in recent years, and this is clearly seen in the construction of housing for plant employees and in the car park in front of the entrance. Given the fact that supertankers were built there in the seventies under 180 thousand tons, and the fact that shipbuilders from other Russian enterprises can invite them there, I do not see any technical barriers. In general, a project and financing are needed, and equipment and production capacities are already available to begin construction. I think that the ships will be built on time, possibly with a slight delay, as is the case for large projects.
      Although the combat use of such ships for our fleet is a big question due to the fact that we are not going to fight on foreign territory by conventional means.
      1. Astra wild 14 January 2020 16: 53 New
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        "car parking in front of the entrance" - "the prosperity of the company can be judged by the number and quality of cars standing nearby" (G. Ford 1)
        1. ccsr 14 January 2020 19: 53 New
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          Quote: Astra wild
          "the prosperity of the company can be judged by the number and quality of cars standing nearby" (G. Ford 1)

          I can’t say anything about the quality of cars at the Gulf, but the fact that there is a new large parking lot full of it, and dozens of cars are standing along the road, I saw last summer when I was driving on a raft.
          1. Astra wild 14 January 2020 20: 48 New
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            So in the Gulf, the situation is safe?
            Do you happen to have no comrades - shipbuilders? I wonder how they assess the situation with their company?
            P
            S
            Perhaps you or someone from your colleagues knows: who is currently managing the Gulf?
            Somewhere information flashed that "Sang" and "Zelenodolsk" began to operate the Crimean shipyards, but who and where?
            1. ccsr 15 January 2020 11: 42 New
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              Quote: Astra wild
              So in the Gulf, the situation is safe?

              Regarding the Ukrainian period, it’s quite safe, the factory’s buildings are glazed, overhead cranes are working, in general, it can be seen from the outside that the factory has come out of stagnation.

              Quote: Astra wild
              Perhaps you or someone from your colleagues knows: who is currently managing the Gulf?

              Unfortunately, I am not so familiar with the plant itself to know the current information. But I know that some builders of the bridge from other regions got a job there, apparently for a reason.
              Quote: Astra wild
              Somewhere information flashed that "Pela" and "Zelenodolsk" began to operate the Crimean shipyards,

              I also heard about cooperation, but at what level I don’t know for sure, although I was always proud of this plant and was interested in its fate.
        2. ccsr 17 January 2020 11: 25 New
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          Quote: Astra wild
          "car parking in front of the entrance" - "the prosperity of the company can be judged by the number and quality of cars standing nearby" (G. Ford 1)

          By the way, here is a photograph of a new residential building built for the workers of the Zaliv factory. In addition to it, several former hostels were repaired and restore the infrastructure of the plant itself, i.e. for the "Gulf" took seriously and for a long time. And it pleases - we will build supertankers and ships of the Arctic class in Kerch too.
  8. Bykov. 14 January 2020 10: 19 New
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    What is the UDC project?
    1. Artemiy_2 14 January 2020 10: 21 New
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      See picture above
      1. Bykov. 14 January 2020 10: 23 New
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        Quote: Artemiy_2
        See picture above

        In any case, there is not much time to wait. In the spring they will tell you more.
    2. Errr 14 January 2020 13: 59 New
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      Quote: Bulls.
      What is the UDC project?
      Obviously this is the Surf project. Model on the photo below.
      Details can be found at:
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Универсальные_десантные_корабли_типа_«Прибой»
      So I would like to kindly joke that in the “Gulf” there will now be a very decent “Surf”. smile
  9. Moonsund 14 January 2020 10: 21 New
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    "Nothing" and "Nowhere" while they have a name. It will appear when there is at least some piece of iron about which the bottle can be broken. In the meantime, the virtual universe is effective
    1. Chaldon48 14 January 2020 10: 26 New
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      Remember: "Hope is our earthly compass, and luck is a reward for courage." I think that this is already good, we decided firmly to start doing. It remains to wish good luck.
      1. Avior 14 January 2020 13: 37 New
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        .Hope dies last, Vera said, shooting Love

        smile
        1. Astra wild 14 January 2020 16: 57 New
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          But I am against this: Faith, Hope, Love and mother Sophia - ETERNAL!
          1. Avior 14 January 2020 17: 02 New
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            This is a joke in which there is some truth in life, unfortunately smile
    2. Paranoid50 14 January 2020 16: 49 New
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      Quote: Moonsund
      It will appear when there is at least some piece of iron about which the bottle can be broken.

      Considering how much time is left before the bookmark, the "pieces of iron" already exist - they are sawed. yes If you wish, you can break the bottle, but I hope that at the enterprise where the “cutting” takes place,
      dry law applies am
      1. Petrol cutter 14 January 2020 20: 20 New
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        "Considering how much time is left before the bookmark, the" pieces of iron "already exist - they are sawing."
        By the way, my colleagues moved to Kerch back in December (met the ex-team leader). I think why you suffered in Kerch, why not in St. Petersburg ?! what (all are silent as partisans). It turns out that it is! ... There’s what's the matter. The picture is piled up at last.
    3. Petrol cutter 14 January 2020 20: 01 New
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      "Nothing" and "Nowhere" while they have a name. It will appear when there is at least some piece of iron about which the bottle can be broken. In the meantime, the virtual universe is effective "
      The bottle is beaten when the ship is lowered into the water.
      A bookmark usually means that a section of the body (usually the bottom one) has already been assembled and it is already solemnly to fasten a plate to it. Or maybe even the block is assembled! Here, when, how ...
      Based on this, I can conclude as a shipbuilder that the construction of ships is in full swing at this stage, the Muscovites began to earn normal money. And I'm happy for them. Taki Kerch from us, some eighty kilometers. You look and we will have a celebration of life.
  10. rocket757 14 January 2020 10: 22 New
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    The first domestic universal landing ships, scheduled for May this year, will be named “Sevastopol” and “Vladivostok,” which were previously intended for Mistral-type helicopter carriers ordered from France.

    If everything goes as it should, promptly ... it will be BEAUTIFUL!
    The boom is hoping this will happen.
  11. Alexey-74 14 January 2020 10: 26 New
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    Finally, some clarity! Of course, by modern standards, we will build for a long time, but to begin with what is necessary. God grant that everything would work out for Russia!
  12. New Year day 14 January 2020 10: 29 New
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    happy that KERCH will build!
    1. bessmertniy 14 January 2020 10: 38 New
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      Of course. There is no sense in relying on France or other countries in such a case. hi
    2. Sling cutter 14 January 2020 10: 43 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      happy that KERCH will build!

      Yes, it would be good if everything is realized, otherwise the Gulf Shipyard is completely underloaded with work.
      For 3 years in a row I watched the factory from Arshintsevskaya Spit, everything looked very sluggish even judging by the flow of workers on the shift and from the shift. I even uploaded pictures to Anton when he laid out articles about the Gulf, it’s a pity that they banned the guy.
    3. Romka 14 January 2020 12: 48 New
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      The most difficult step is the first!
    4. Astra wild 14 January 2020 20: 57 New
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      Sylvester, sorry for the curiosity: Are you a shipbuilder? I wonder: except for Kerch, where could they build such ships? ' Someone said that Pela had many orders and they couldn’t. I know (heard): "Asterisk", Sang, Zelenodolsk
      1. New Year day 14 January 2020 22: 17 New
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        Quote: Astra wild
        Sylvester, sorry for the curiosity: Are you a shipbuilder?

        No. I just follow the success of Crimea hi
        As for the shipyards, there are no similar Gulfs, except in Severodvinsk
  13. Piramidon 14 January 2020 10: 34 New
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    TASS reports with reference to source in the military-industrial complex.

    According to another the source,

    Previously reported

    Information appeared later

    Some kind of "sources" are suspicious. Very reminiscent of messages from the "Agency OBS." winked
  14. Invoce 14 January 2020 10: 34 New
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    If you read between the lines, Russia put on sanctions, on not smart French (and they returned the money and lost their reputation) and is developing its own shipbuilding in Crimea, on the Black Sea. If someone asks about Nikolaev shipyards, then since the 90s nothing has been laid there. At the very least, but something is changing for the better. Not all at once, but there is hope
    1. Freeman 14 January 2020 10: 59 New
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      Invoce Today, 10:34 AM
      If someone asks about Nikolaev shipyards, then since 90s nothing was laid there.


      Nikolaev Shipbuilding Plant (Ukrainian. Mikola Shipbuilding Plant, former Shipbuilding Plant named after 61 Communards).
      Last shipbuilding order in 2005-2007
      The plant built four 89-meter multi-purpose dry cargo vessels for the Spanish company Factoria Naval de marin

      https://web.archive.org/web/20160304192442/http://www.vn.mk.ua/stories.php?id=2201

      And then, yes - Byad Pichal.
  15. Paul Siebert 14 January 2020 10: 35 New
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    Well - half the battle is done. Name came up!
    Now the nonsense is left - to build!
    1. Gardamir 14 January 2020 10: 40 New
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      And why build? The name is enough.
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        Quote: Gardamir
        And why build? The name is enough.

        There are also layouts!
  16. nm76 14 January 2020 10: 55 New
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    By the way, if you come up with names for a couple of aircraft carriers, then we will become a great sea power ...
  17. tlauicol 14 January 2020 10: 56 New
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    Wow! Well done, managers good write yourself a prize!

    The main headquarters of the Navy decided to name the first Russian UDC "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok". Previously, such names were assigned to two Mistral helicopter carriers ordered from France.

    and then rename Anwar Sadat and Abtel Nasser - once the time comes for the Egyptians to change ships yes
    1. ccsr 14 January 2020 13: 14 New
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      Quote: Tlauicol
      and then rename Anwar Sadat and Abtel Nasser - once the time comes for the Egyptians to change ships

      By the way, this is not such a bad idea, especially taking into account the needs of those unstable countries where there is a coastline and some rebels are constantly demanding something there. If we can create ships of this class at the best price and great opportunities, then for several orders there will be buyers in the same SEA or in Africa.
  18. Paul Siebert 14 January 2020 11: 38 New
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    What an interesting time we live in!
    We come up with the names. Unbuilded ships ...
    He can offer our shipbuilders to christen one of them - "Nebuchadonossor"!
    In honor of the chosen Neo, Captain Morpheus and their girlfriend Trinity?
    Jews, as soon as they read such a name on board our UDC, they will immediately run away and hide.
    This is in their genetics.
  19. Ka-52 14 January 2020 12: 15 New
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    regarding the naming of the above, unsubscribed commentators probably think that their petrosion is drawn, if not to sarcasm, then to humor. It would be better to read the story that the naming of the ship since the time of the Russian Empire takes place either at the stage of the preliminary design, or (in extreme cases) at the time of laying. For example, the famous squadron battleship "Petropavlovsk" received the name a few months before laying it at the St. Petersburg shipyard. Perhaps these fans of Eugene Vaganovich think that the ship gets the name at the time of departure from the slipways?
  20. vladcub 14 January 2020 12: 25 New
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    Quote: Chaldon48
    Remember: "Hope is our earthly compass, and luck is a reward for courage." I think that this is already good, we decided firmly to start doing. It remains to wish good luck.

    A good song, let's hope that everything comes true
  21. Ros 56 14 January 2020 12: 36 New
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    Well, not bad. A series of fun in the number of cities located between them such as Vladik and Seva.
    1. Grits 14 January 2020 15: 25 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      Well, not bad.

      In any case, fair
  22. senima56 14 January 2020 12: 36 New
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    Finally, the Gulf will receive an order worthy of its capabilities! Good luck to the factory workers! good drinks
  23. CommanderDIVA 14 January 2020 14: 00 New
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    Apparently the main water area for the use of these UDCs will be the Mediterranean Sea, based in Tartus, with an eye to control the coast of African countries with oil and gas reserves (Libya, possibly Algeria), if there is an opportunity to enter the Red Sea via the Suez Canal, it will be possible to regain its former influence over Fr. Socotra (our marines were based under the USSR) and over the Bab-El-Mandeb Strait with access to the Indian Ocean
    1. Grits 14 January 2020 15: 26 New
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      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      Apparently the main water area for the use of these UDCs will be the Mediterranean Sea based in Tartus

      I think that there will be only one. The second one will go to the Far East. Kuril Islands must also be protected
      1. Vladimir1155 14 January 2020 20: 27 New
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        udk is not able to protect anyone, but he himself requires protection, and he does not have his tasks, the fifth wheel in the cart
        1. Grits 15 January 2020 02: 41 New
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          Quote: vladimir1155
          udk is not able to protect anyone, but he himself requires protection, and he does not have his tasks, the fifth wheel in the cart

          I mean that if the UDC is to guard the forces of the fleet, then, accordingly, they will a priori protect the territories where they will operate. The same Kuril Islands, for example. It seems to me that if he appears at the Pacific Fleet, it is between Vladivostok and Kamchatka that he will most of all ply.
          1. Vladimir1155 15 January 2020 16: 11 New
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            a rather strange logic to build an unnecessary ship to guard it, and at the same time protect something else, for example, almost deserted islands, and why would it cruise there, is this new entertainment cruising?
            1. Grits 15 January 2020 16: 58 New
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              and why will he ply there, is this new entertainment plying?

              Then, to prevent any narrow-film banzai from drooling once more on deserted islands
              1. Vladimir1155 15 January 2020 21: 01 New
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                they don’t give a damn about this tub, the banzaev will be stopped only by the presence of a pair of Boreev at the Pacific Fleet
    2. Looking for 14 January 2020 18: 17 New
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      will Tartus be in 10 years.?
    3. ccsr 15 January 2020 12: 01 New
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      Apparently the main water area for the use of these UDCs will be the Mediterranean Sea based in Tartus,

      Well, this is unlikely, because it is too expensive to keep such ships there, and combat training of sailors, marines and pilots should take place all year round not in the Mediterranean Sea, but in the Black Sea with the participation of all interacting ships. We are not so rich that to conduct full-fledged exercises at least twice a year in the Mediterranean Sea.
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      with an eye to control the coast of African countries with oil and gas reserves

      If only we are asked by the official governments of the states, because military assistance to Syria is already so expensive for us, and we do not need extra parasites. By the way, the more chaos there will be in oil and gas countries, the higher our incomes will be, which means we don’t have to go around with our reconciliation functions. This is sound cynicism, but we were not the first to use it.
  24. Protos 14 January 2020 14: 23 New
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    I just had a thought: they should use the Mistral TX. Agree that it would be foolish to “reinvent the wheel” again. Naturally, we cannot 100% repeat this project: 1) it is completely “sharpened” for the French capabilities from the experience of the welder to the presence of paint
    2) they probably chose for a long time where to build.

    But nothing that the stern of Menstrual was cooked and painted with us ?!
    And the electrical equipment, and communication with our control, and our weapon systems (foundations).
    They will build according to the corrected documentation which (according to the contract) was given to us by the French!
  25. Korg 14 January 2020 16: 30 New
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    For such a colossus - you need to build at least three tugboats in addition to carry along the oceans, in case the engines die again)))
  26. Losharik 14 January 2020 16: 56 New
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    "Stalin" needs to be called, in spite of some in the west and inside the country .. Why should we be silent and embarrassed by our history?
  27. Astra wild 14 January 2020 17: 12 New
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    Quote: Paul Siebert
    Well - half the battle is done. Name came up!
    Now the nonsense is left - to build!

    In childhood I heard from my mother: "that we should build a house: we will draw and we will live." So in your opinion?
  28. Looking for 14 January 2020 18: 15 New
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    It’s laid down, and in a couple of years it’ll be dismantled for metal on a slipway. It reminds me of the situation. As the world powers dozens of riveted dreadnoughts and superdreadnoughts. Spain (well, a country with a famous maritime history) scraped money for three NEDEDredoutnou and built it like that long. that by the time of their commissioning. they were already hopelessly outdated.
  29. Petrol cutter 14 January 2020 19: 33 New
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    Does that lay ships on a holiday? They set off quite wisely ...
    The people in the parade, you celebrate. "Here, bang, second shift!"
    Blow to the factory, put on your robe, climb onto the slipway (or where they will be laid there). Why all this insanity?!.
  30. Vladimir1155 14 January 2020 20: 25 New
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    a fundamental mistake in general to build udk, minesweepers are needed
  31. Astra wild 14 January 2020 20: 49 New
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    Quote: Avior
    This is a joke in which there is some truth in life, unfortunately smile

    I somehow do not like such jokes
  32. Magog 15 January 2020 15: 36 New
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    "UDCs of the" Surf "type are intended for the reception, transportation and landing of sea landing on the equipped and non-equipped coast, involving both landing boats and helicopters." Can anyone explain in what frameworks the geo-political tasks of the Russian Navy orders such ships?