Haftar left Moscow without signing a ceasefire agreement

Haftar left Moscow without signing a ceasefire agreement

The talks in Moscow between the commander of the Libyan National Army (LNA), Marshal Khalifa Haftar and the head of the government of national consent, Faez Saraj ended without signing the final document, Haftar left Moscow without signing a ceasefire agreement. It is reported by RIA News with reference to an informed Libyan source.


According to the source of the agency, Khalifa Haftar asked for additional time for a comprehensive study of the agreement, which several parties to the conflict have already signed.

The day before, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov confirmed the signing of the document by several parties and the fact that Haftar requested additional time.

Marshal Haftar, commander of the Libyan National Army, and Akil Saleh, chairman of the Chamber of Deputies in Tobruk, are considering this document positively and asked for a little extra time until the next morning to decide on its signing. I hope this decision will be positive.

declared Lavrov.

Earlier, the leaders of Russia and Turkey, Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, agreed on a common position on Libya and called on the conflicting parties to a ceasefire.

The main topic of the ongoing negotiations in Moscow was the definition of parameters and the possibility of signing an agreement between the HNA of Haftara and PNS Saraj.

At the moment, the draft agreement, determining the line of contact and planning further steps to stabilize the situation, was signed by Faez Sarraj and the head of the Supreme State Council Khaled Mishri. According to unconfirmed reports, Khalifa Haftar is inclined to continue the offensive on Tripoli.
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  1. cniza 14 January 2020 08: 54 New
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    According to the source of the agency, Khalifa Haftar asked for additional time for a comprehensive study of the agreement, which several parties to the conflict have already signed.


    He needs to save face in front of his associates ...
    1. bessmertniy 14 January 2020 09: 00 New
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      Haftar is likely to be able to win. Therefore, the peace agreement did not suit him.
      1. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 09: 09 New
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        Haftar is likely to be able to win.

        If he was sure, he would not have come there, but won.
        He apparently hoped that they would negotiate (bargain) with him, and he was apparently confronted with the fact that everything had already been decided and he just needed to sign it.
        1. Stas157 14 January 2020 09: 49 New
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          Yesterday I listened to the news on the radio, one political scientist triumphantly declared that Moscow had wiped her nose! It connects the incompatible and spreads the irreconcilable in the corners. Unrivaled international negotiator and breeder!

          The truce agreement is already, they say, in your pocket, and Lavrov has confirmed this. He said that the Libyans still need a little time. But this is a formality! Since we (puppeteers) have already decided everything for them with the Turks.
          1. Grits 14 January 2020 14: 29 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            Yesterday I listened to the news on the radio, one political scientist triumphantly declared that Moscow had wiped her nose! It connects the incompatible and spreads the irreconcilable in the corners. Unrivaled international negotiator and breeder!

            Even if they had signed this truce, it is not at all a fact that this truce would have come. I think everyone understands this very well. This was the first attempt.
        2. PalBor 14 January 2020 10: 49 New
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          Not, well, and then, grandmas are paid. Behind Haftar Egypt, the KSA, the UAE, if he rolls away, oh how will the public ask. smile I could not go to negotiations, not according to the rules, and I must respect the Russians. But he immediately made a condition (according to rumors from the negotiations) that the Turks should completely leave, withdraw their proxies, and cease the supply of arms to Saraju. He received a categorical rejection of the Turks and politely dumped at sunrise.
          1. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 12: 00 New
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            But he immediately made a condition ... the Turks must completely leave, withdraw their proxies, stop supplying arms to Saraju.

            Well, ridiculously by golly. lol Haftar "demanded" something there. Yes, he missed his chance to demand something there. Only the winner can demand. That he would have taken Tripoli, then demand. And then, what naivety to demand from Erdogan? Yes, Erdogan lied on Washington's demands. And then there is some kind of Haftar with his ambitions. If there really were such requirements, then most likely the negotiations will end in nothing. And Erdogan just will not calm down until he crushes this Haftar into powder. And I doubt that someone can stop Erdogan.
            1. Grits 14 January 2020 14: 32 New
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              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              And Erdogan just will not calm down until he crushes this Haftar into powder. And I doubt that someone will be able to stop Erdogan

              And I would love to see how the Turks are fighting. It would be even funnier if the "slippers" experienced in battles piled on them to the fullest ...
            2. PalBor 14 January 2020 18: 48 New
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              Erdogan will not erase. He was left alone in the struggle for Cypriot gas and Libyan oil. Tunisia and Algeria, which at first showed their support, now backtracked. All the "gulfs", except for Qatar, support Haftar. Israel (read the United States) clearly supported Greece in the struggle for Cypriot gas, and implicitly - again tobruktsy and LNA. Well and so on.
              Turkey will not send regular forces: far, expensive, there are many potential victims. And let the “green meat” go; there will be more clean air in Idlib. There are already "first go."

              And Haftar will continue negotiations slowly, slowly, and when he takes Tripoli, you will see something and sign it.
              After Moscow, he flew to Jordan to Abdullah. Now he is listening to a lecture on diplomacy and political art and will agree to further negotiations, not because Erdogan scared.
      2. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 10 New
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        I don’t think he has tried so much and so far failed, it’s hard for us to evaluate his actions, simply because we do not know much.
      3. den3080 14 January 2020 09: 22 New
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        and Massaraksch signed?
        1. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 24 New
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          No direct information ...
          1. knn54 14 January 2020 09: 38 New
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            Several requirements were not included in the Treaty: the deployment of troops in Tripoli and the formation of a coalition government, the withdrawal of Turkish mercenaries and Syrian fighters ...
      4. Wolverine 14 January 2020 09: 36 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Haftar is likely to be able to win. Therefore, the peace agreement did not suit him.


        Winning or not winning depends on whether the powers of the world above allow him or not, he is essentially a small fry with a small rabble who performs tasks that even he himself does not know. hi
      5. RUSS 14 January 2020 10: 00 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Haftar is likely to be able to win. Therefore, the peace agreement did not suit him.

        Who knows, Wagner PMCs are already there, but Haftar’s opponents also have a lot of resources.
      6. Nyrobsky 14 January 2020 12: 05 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Haftar is likely to be able to win. Therefore, the peace agreement did not suit him.

        I agree. Haftar has a good chance of winning. But probably it makes sense to track the news for a couple of upcoming days. Something tells us that the Kremlin’s press service will report that telephone conversations with French President Macron have taken place. GDP Macron will tell on the phone what Frau Merkel thinks about it, because with Angela they discussed the Libyan topic face to face in the Kremlin office. It seems that Haftar would like to know the position of everyone from whom he has informal support, and Macron has not yet identified himself in this topic. And probably somewhere after that, Haftar will just read the text of the ceasefire and make a decision.
    2. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 09: 07 New
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      He needs to save face in front of his associates ...

      He will save his face only in one case, if he continues and successfully completes the offensive. That is, it will take Tripoli. The local mentality does not accept otherwise. Otherwise, many supporters will turn away from him as a weak one.
      For a successful attack, he simply does not have enough strength. What he originally intended was to be done quickly. Win. And the winners are not judged. And his offensive stalled. And at the moment, the Hawtor has not a single chance. Especially after the actual connection to the situation of the NATO country of Turkey.
      At the moment, it is more appropriate to raise the question of not saving faces, but about saving lives.
      And judging by his behavior, he already understood this.
      1. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 12 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich

        At the moment, it is more appropriate to raise the question of not saving faces, but about saving lives.
        And judging by his behavior, he already understood this.


        That's right, because they can kill both strangers and their own.
        1. bessmertniy 14 January 2020 09: 17 New
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          Or maybe he just naively hoped that his opponents would peacefully cede power to him during the negotiations. what But they did not yield. request
          1. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 20 New
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            I think he understands perfectly that everything can be bought from them ...
          2. tihonmarine 14 January 2020 09: 32 New
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            Quote: bessmertniy

            Or maybe he just naively hoped that his opponents would peacefully cede power to him during the negotiations.

            In the Arab countries, the words “hope, hope” are not as we think. From hope to death is only one step. Muammar Gaddafi also hoped that he would survive, but everything turned out differently.
          3. RUSS 14 January 2020 10: 02 New
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            Quote: bessmertniy
            Or maybe he just naively hoped that his opponents would peacefully cede power to him during the negotiations. what But they did not yield. request

            The proposed version of the ceasefire agreement in Libya did not contain requirements of the Libyan National Army (LNA), said LNA commander Marshal Khalifa Haftar on Al Arabiya television channel.

            “The project ignores many of the demands of the Libyan army,” said the marshal.
        2. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 09: 19 New
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          That's right, because they can kill both strangers and their own.

          If he had signed this document, he would have been alive. But as a policy, he ends. But the old man is apparently ambitious.
          He already made a mistake. Tripoli is not taken, but he goes to negotiations, which he did not appoint. So he understands that he won’t take Tripoli. Then why did you come? What was he waiting for? What will be babysitting with him?
          1. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 21 New
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            There was trade, and in the literal sense ...
      2. bar
        bar 14 January 2020 09: 36 New
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        He will save his face only in one case, if he continues and successfully completes the offensive. That is, it will take Tripoli.

        Far from a fact. Stupidly, by storm of Tripoli, he already had the opportunity. And he had the necessary strength. But he did not use it because it would lead to a large number of victims and the very “loss of face” and support among the people. Therefore, instead of an assault, there was a blockade. Haftar is in a difficult position. The matter most likely goes to the partition of the country, and it makes sense for him to agree to "half the kingdom", instead of losing everything. Apparently, I went to think.
        1. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 11: 45 New
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          Stupidly, by storm of Tripoli, he already had the opportunity. And he had the necessary strength.

          But he never took Tripoli. Then what is the reason for this, that he could and could not?
          Assess the current situation based on realities. And the realities are such that Haftar missed his opportunities. And it is unlikely that they (opportunities) will reappear in him.
          1. bar
            bar 14 January 2020 12: 00 New
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            But he never took Tripoli. Then what is the reason for this, that he could and could not?

            Life is not as unicellular as you think. She's harder. And in the history of heaps of examples, when refusal to solve the problem stupidly in the forehead ultimately led to success. Wait and see ...
            1. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 12: 08 New
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              Life is not as unicellular as you think.

              A "strong" argument. crying
              1. bar
                bar 14 January 2020 14: 39 New
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                The argument I had was in the first message. And this is just a comment and reaction to your primitive view of politics on the principle of "no fool without a fool."
        2. Grits 14 January 2020 14: 38 New
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          Quote: bar
          The matter most likely goes to the partition of the country, and it makes sense for him to agree to "half the kingdom", instead of losing everything. Apparently, I went to think.

          What is there to think, in the case of a section, one must agree. Why the hell did Tripoli surrender to him? With a large number of hungry unemployed people who need to be supported somehow. But he still has a huge territory with its ports, oil fields, pipelines and water storage facilities.
          1. bar
            bar 14 January 2020 15: 16 New
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            Why the hell did Tripoli surrender to him?

            Big people need power more than stupid money. Haftar has big ambitions, he wants to lead the whole country, and not stupidly rumble with oil on its half. That is why he did not storm Tripoli. Large casualties during the assault would undermine the authority of the future "leader of the nation."
    3. rocket757 14 January 2020 09: 19 New
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      Hi soldier
      According to the source of the agency, Khalifa Haftar asked for additional time for a comprehensive study of the agreement, which several parties to the conflict have already signed.

      This is normal. Hasty decisions can lead to different and bad consequences.
      There were no preliminary negotiations, i.e. no pre-agreed document.
      A well-designed, agreed upon document leaves MORE hopes for real reconciliation.
      1. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 23 New
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        Good time! hi

        Of course - “hurry to make people laugh”, it especially matters to them.
        1. Mountain shooter 14 January 2020 09: 49 New
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          Russia gave him a chance not to face the Turks during the assault on Tripoli ... Haftar figured out the chances and decided that he could handle it. Or holds a pause, mhatovskaya. The assault on the capital does not work for him? Or did he decide that they would hand over the country to him, and something did not grow together? They did not allow troops to enter the capital.
          1. cniza 14 January 2020 09: 50 New
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            They trade for real money, but they also stand a pause.
    4. Yves762 14 January 2020 09: 53 New
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      According to the source of the agency, Khalifa Haftar asked for additional time for a comprehensive study of the agreement, which several parties to the conflict have already signed.


      There is another version:
      The commander of the Libyan National Army (LNA), Khalifa Haftar, who left Moscow without signing a ceasefire agreement with the Government of National Accord (PNS) in Tripoli Faiz Sarraj, said that the proposed version of the document ignored a number of requirements of the LNA.
      "The draft [agreement] ignores many of the demands of the Libyan army," Al Arabiya television quoted him on Tuesday.

      https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/7513411
    5. Maz
      Maz 14 January 2020 09: 55 New
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      Foreign media write that Haftar demanded the complete withdrawal of Syrian and Turkish mercenaries from Libya, and this was the main reason, not the study of documents, but that they were collected in Moscow is a plus and a big one!
    6. svp67 14 January 2020 10: 19 New
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      Quote: cniza
      He needs to save face in front of his associates ...

      Rather, as the winning side now, he is in a hurry to capture as much as possible, especially in the area of ​​the city of Sirte. And there you can sign ...
      1. cniza 14 January 2020 10: 25 New
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        And this is quite possible, they have their own methods ...
  2. Mavrikiy 14 January 2020 09: 11 New
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    Title:
    Haftar left Moscow without signing a ceasefire agreement
    Lavrov:
    Marshal Haftar, commander of the Libyan National Army, and Akil Saleh, chairman of the Chamber of Deputies in Tobruk, consider this document positively and asked for a little extra time until the next morning,
    According to unconfirmed reports, Khalifa Haftar inclines to continue the offensive on Tripoli
    .Molodets. Chest in crosses, or head in bushes. Most likely the second. Creating a flying can opener is no more difficult than a drone. Turkey can do it.
    Our supreme figured out everything already.
    1. Mordvin 3 14 January 2020 09: 38 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Our supreme figured out everything already.

      Not understood. What did he calculate?
      1. Mavrikiy 14 January 2020 09: 41 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Our supreme figured out everything already.

        Not understood. What did he calculate?

        I explain. We supported Hoftar with Egypt. But against all of Europe + Turkey. Haftaru does not shine. It is necessary to diverge "with one's own."
        1. Mordvin 3 14 January 2020 09: 44 New
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          Quote: Mavrikiy
          It is necessary to diverge "with one's own."

          We had already disagreed with our own that we did not notice how we were surrounded by enemies.
        2. sanek45744 14 January 2020 10: 49 New
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          If you don’t know what it is better to remain silent. ! France drowns for lna and Italy for pns. The rest are generally on the drum.
  3. RUS96 14 January 2020 09: 22 New
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    ..........
  4. uav80 14 January 2020 09: 32 New
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    Given that Haftar controls 4/5 of the country’s territory, including the oil industry, he simply gave the TNC trench to end the war without much blood on both sides ...
  5. Livonetc 14 January 2020 09: 33 New
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    This is the first phase.
    Further, a different layout is possible.
    For example.
    Gingerbread is handed out to Haftar during the next assault on Tripoli.
    With the direct support of Turkey and the tacit agreement of the rest, non-Libyan stakeholders.
    Next, a new round of negotiation waltz, with clarification of the current positions of the political and military plan.
  6. JonnyT 14 January 2020 09: 34 New
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    It is a pity that the Russian Federation went on about Turkey. Sooner or later, the Haftar will take Tripoli and then he will remember the kidka from the Russian Federation. He thinks that Tripoli is already in his hands and the signing of an agreement for him actually means surrender, plus his associates do not approve of it. However, he will not take Tripoli on his own, where he can compete with the Turks. In a word, the marshal was between a rock and a hard place
    1. Maz
      Maz 14 January 2020 10: 01 New
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      I don’t know how the hammer and the anvil are there, but Haftar managed to tighten up the reserves, regroup and saturate the troops with supplies, because the ends of the supply shoulders are longer than the PPS. So there will be a new round of attacks on saraj. And who lathers it is not yet known. In the Russian context, another competitor in the oil market is no use. The longer the conflict lasts, the better for us, for Russia. Our oil prices are everything. Surprisingly....
  7. Xenofont 14 January 2020 10: 01 New
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    It is not clear what they counted on, offering Haftaru to leave Tripoli? He has 3/4 of the country, Sirte is captured, and he must retreat because of dubious prospects to agree on something of little interest. The world under what conditions is what matters.
  8. Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2020 10: 18 New
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    This is a game like that. Like Haftar independent, does not listen to anyone. It remains to shrug and let him take Tripoli. And there will be no one to negotiate with.
  9. no one 14 January 2020 10: 22 New
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    He asked for time to speak with Egypt Macron and the Saudis, apparently they did not give the green light. Wagner has already left.
    1. sanek45744 14 January 2020 10: 52 New
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      Did you see that Wagner left?
      1. rich 14 January 2020 13: 02 New
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        neden (neden): Wagner has already left.

        sanek45744: You yourself saw that Wagner left?

      2. no one 14 January 2020 13: 08 New
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        You might think that everything that happens in the world you yourself see
        1. sanek45744 14 January 2020 13: 15 New
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          Yes, unlike you, I don’t write what I don’t know.
          1. no one 14 January 2020 13: 16 New
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            Yes. I suppose you’re standing under a tripoli.
            1. sanek45744 14 January 2020 16: 38 New
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              No . I'm seating at home . I just gave you advice, and you are obviously very stupid to understand this.
  10. malyvalv 14 January 2020 11: 19 New
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    Moscow in this case is nothing more than Minsk for solving Ukrainian problems or Astana for solving Syrian ones.
    Since it is not signed, it means Egypt has not agreed to the conditions. And at the same time, the Emirates and the Saudis. The main help to Haftar comes from there.
    In principle, Haftar still has great chances to win. Libya is still an Arab country and the coming of the Turks is unlikely to positively affect the situation of Saraj. Haftar will have more incentives to unite Libyan tribes on his side.
  11. Mikhail3 14 January 2020 11: 29 New
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    It is necessary to report everything in detail to their masters in the USA, to develop tactics, or rather, to receive orders from them. It’s not an easy task, time is needed ...
  12. Losharik 14 January 2020 16: 59 New
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    Haftar left Moscow without signing a ceasefire agreement

    Well, nothing is just the beginning, the main thing is that I’ve arrived .. Let him think and consult! In such a case, you can’t rush, the main thing is that the United States does not connect, then it is useless.