Russian weapons ensured Armenia supremacy in the air of Transcaucasia: Azerbaijan doubts


Recently, Armenian military experts have begun with a very high degree of certainty to assert that from now on their country can lay claim to almost complete and undivided dominance in the sky of the explosive Transcaucasus region that continues to remain explosive. At least - in relation to the similar capabilities of Azerbaijan, in which Yerevan continues to see the main military-political probable enemy. What exactly can we talk about in this case, and is that so?


First of all, about the supplies of Su-30SM multipurpose fighter jets that have already begun to this country, the first four of which landed at the Shirak airport in Gyumri at the end of last year. It is expected that Yerevan plans to purchase from 12 to 16 such combat vehicles. The importance there is attached to this deal is more than convincingly indicated by the presence at the reception ceremony of fighters arriving from Russia not only of the entire military leadership of Armenia, but also of its prime minister, Nikol Pashinyan. Despite the doubts put forward by some skeptics about the advisability of acquiring such expensive aircraft (although, as a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, Yerevan received them at an internal Russian cost, not at a market price), there is no limit to the enthusiasm of the Armenian military about this purchase. Still - after all, the Su-30SM was originally designed specifically to gain absolute dominance in the air, and this machine fully demonstrated its excellent combat qualities in Syria.

From now on, in Armenia they allow themselves to look down on Baku: they say that without obtaining consent in Moscow to purchase the same fighters, they did not find anything better than to choose as an alternative to them the JF-17 Thunder, manufactured under a Chinese license in Pakistan. Armenian experts in the field of armaments with great relish analyze the tactical and technical characteristics of both combat vehicles, according to which the Su-30SM, of course, bypasses the competitor in all respects. And the flight ceiling has almost one and a half thousand meters more, and the suspension points of the weapons are almost double against the "Pakistani Chinese", and there is no need to talk about the combat load - 8000 kg against 3600 for the JF-17 Thunder. It, however, is not surprising - this machine, unlike our formidable "master of the sky" was originally developed as a light fighter - and nothing more.

Anyway, all theories about the purchase of these aircraft by Azerbaijan so far can be considered exclusively as versions that are more or less likely. Yes, it seems that negotiations are underway. However, at what stage they are, about the supply of how many cars and in what specific time frame we can talk about - a secret covered in darkness. Today, Baku has exclusively Soviet models of combat aviation in the form of Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-29 fighters. Also, of course, good cars (especially in skilled hands), but they are certainly not rivals to the Su-30SM.

To a considerable degree, the enthusiasm of those who in Armenia speak about the indisputable superiority achieved in the air is also a significant renewal and strengthening of their air defense systems by this country, due to, again, the latest products of the Russian military-industrial complex. First of all, it’s over, it’s necessary to mention the Tor-M2 air defense systems, which have also recently been put into service with the army there. In combination with Buk air defense systems previously acquired by Yerevan and, of course, S-300 systems, they, in the opinion of local military experts, make it possible to talk about creating a full-fledged and comprehensive air defense system of the country both at the distant, at the middle and near levels. Recent events in the Middle East have convincingly demonstrated the importance of this link in the defense of any state, so that the joy of the Armenian military is understandable.

But in Azerbaijan they doubt the superiority of Armenia in the air of Transcaucasia.

All this wave of enthusiasm is somewhat offset by the presence in Azerbaijan, again Russian, of S-300 systems, which are a serious argument for "sorting out the relations" of air defense systems, if that, God forbid, will happen (and some external forces would like to). Perhaps this factor of the Azerbaijani air defense is for the better - so that neither side of the joy of acquiring new types of weapons develops into a warlike itch and a desire to use them for their intended purpose. Nobody needs this for sure - neither in the Transcaucasus, nor in Russia.
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  1. rocket757 14 January 2020 17: 33 New
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    Of course, everything is in order at home, there are no problems ...
    The trouble is, there is no one to restrain them now.
    1. rich 14 January 2020 18: 13 New
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      Russian weapons ensured Armenia supremacy in the air of Transcaucasia: Azerbaijan doubts

      Who didn’t have any weapons, and the air of Transcaucasia dominated, dominated and will dominate the white-headed vultures
  2. Zeev Zeev 14 January 2020 17: 34 New
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    Still - after all, the Su-30SM was originally designed specifically to gain absolute dominance in the air, and this machine fully demonstrated its excellent combat qualities in Syria.

    What exactly are the excellent combat qualities to achieve absolute superiority in the air showed this plane in Syria?
    1. A good one 14 January 2020 17: 52 New
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      What is the conversation about, my joy belay What is air supremacy in Syria? Your language? Fly on there on your broomstick, glow on the radar, save yourself and yours for inheritance. laughing
  3. Krasnodar 14 January 2020 17: 39 New
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    And where will the Armenian pilots train? Over Iran? The Israelis, with the same size of the country, fly over the sea and a little over their own territory.
    1. A good one 14 January 2020 18: 01 New
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      They have a different strategy, if only something. yes And we'll see. smile Maybe the mountains will build up. Against who? According to circumstances.
      1. Plantagenet 14 January 2020 21: 51 New
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        "Maybe the mountains will build up."

        Through a nuclear underground explosion? It seems that in 1976, in the Kazakh part of the Tien Shan, they blew up.
  4. Oquzyurd 14 January 2020 17: 42 New
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    Azerbaijan strongly doubts that the Armenians have an advantage in the air for many reasons. Along with the S-300 Favorite, the Barak-8 has the same doubts on the balance of air defense of Azerbaijan. The Barak 8 missile is designed to intercept enemy aircraft, as well as the destruction of missiles launched from sea and land to combat subsonic and supersonic air targets at various heights and ranges. Although Barak-8 was not specifically designed for missile defense, it can perform the tasks of intercepting tactical ballistic missiles. The missile is launched using a vertical launcher and is capable of intercepting targets at a distance of 70-80 km with an intercept height of 16 km, in difficult weather conditions at any time of the day. After launch, the missile receives target designation from the guidance radar. On approaching the target, the Barak-8 anti-aircraft guided missile starts the second engine and activates the radar seeker. The most significant advantage of the Barak-8 is a modern guidance system based on the use of active radar guidance heads and sufficiently powerful radar detection and guidance. As a ground targeting radar, a powerful active phased array antenna is used, which has a target detection range with an EPR of 3 m2 - 250 km.
  5. Terenin 14 January 2020 17: 43 New
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    But in Azerbaijan they doubt the superiority of Armenia in the air of Transcaucasia.

    All this wave of enthusiasm is somewhat offset by the presence in Azerbaijan, again Russian, of S-300 systems, which are a serious argument for "sorting out the relations" of air defense systems

    We still lacked sanctions for the untimely development, release and provision of all sides with new systems of attack and defense belay
  6. certero 14 January 2020 17: 43 New
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    I don’t understand one thing, why cannot we sell fighters to Armenia, which cannot pay for them instead of selling Azerbaijan, which has money?
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan 14 January 2020 17: 50 New
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      So that between the parties to the conflict there was a balance of forces and there was no war.
    2. Sergey Valov 14 January 2020 17: 50 New
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      It is in our interests to have peace in this region, which is why Russia is arming Baku and Yerevan in such a way that they would not be able to guaranteed defeat each other.
    3. Sergey Averchenkov 14 January 2020 21: 39 New
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      Because. Keep measuring everything with money ..
      1. certero 15 January 2020 04: 33 New
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        Think of what to measure? Armenia is no ally of Russia and will never be. Just like Azerbaijan will not be him.
        1. Sergey Averchenkov 15 January 2020 04: 51 New
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          Then it’s easier ... Where is our base?
          1. certero 15 January 2020 08: 42 New
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            Moreover, as long as there is no base in Armenia attacking our base there
            1. Sergey Averchenkov 15 January 2020 14: 20 New
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              In addition to the color revolution.
  7. Ratmir_Ryazan 14 January 2020 17: 43 New
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    An airplane is a flying platform, what do the sides have for air-to-air missiles?

    Azerbaijan cooperates with Israel, what is their MiG armed with?
    1. bobwings 14 January 2020 18: 01 New
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      Mig-29 of Azerbaijan modernized by Elbit. In addition, the pilots fly there a lot and are well prepared. They regularly participate in international exercises in Turkey, and their tactics are largely Western. I don’t know what kind of raid the Armenian pilots have, the Su-30 itself may also have a good platform, but in inexperienced hands it is unlikely to reveal its potential.
      1. Professor 14 January 2020 20: 19 New
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        In Armenia there are only 2 airdromes for these aircraft. To bomb 2 runways and there is no aviation in Armenia.
        1. wmn5500 14 January 2020 20: 48 New
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          Moreover, to destroy the airfields of Armenia, Azerbaijan does not need to use combat aircraft. Enough to use ground fire weapons!
  8. knn54 14 January 2020 17: 54 New
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    At the joint exercises of the Air Force of Azerbaijan and Turkey, TurAz-Gartal in 2019, Turkish F-16s could not overcome the air defense system of Azerbaijan, and were conditionally destroyed.
    In addition, it is worth considering the difficult mountainous terrain and the significant numerical advantage of the Azerbaijani Air Force.
  9. Herrmakedon 14 January 2020 18: 06 New
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    Quote: certero
    I don’t understand one thing, why cannot we sell fighters to Armenia, which cannot pay for them instead of selling Azerbaijan, which has money?

    So that the desire to reduce Armenia does not increase. A balance is needed, Russia in the first place.
  10. prosto_rgb 14 January 2020 19: 12 New
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    By and large, for that theater of war heavy destroyed and are not needed.
    As for the JF-17 Thunder, in its latest modification, "block 3" comes with AFAR.
    Yes, and in the version of "block 2" is not very bad, especially at its cost:
    Despite the fact that the fighter has an incredibly low price of $ 23 million, the range of tasks it performs includes all known tactical missions: from long-range air combat with enemy fighter aircraft to suppressing enemy air defense. As with the more advanced JF-17 Block III, Block II provides for the installation of targeted container OLPCs of the Sniper-ATP type (pictured) and WMD-7 ASELPOD; also installed a rod for a hose-cone refueling system and conformal fuel tanks

    https://topwar.ru/110396-jf-17-thunder-perehodit-v-5-e-pokolenie-v-razy-bystrey-progressa-tejas-i-amca-uprezhdayuschiy-hod-kitaya-chast-1.html

    Actually, a plane of this class is not enough for the Russian military-industrial complex
    1. Keyser soze 14 January 2020 19: 24 New
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      Actually, a plane of this class is not enough for the Russian military-industrial complex


      Absolutely right - a light, single-engine and cheap fighter, which was at one time the 21st. Of course with AFAR and all the modern possibilities. That would make big sales in the global market ...
  11. Professor 14 January 2020 20: 16 New
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    Administration, Return cons to articles. I beg you.
  12. shura7782 14 January 2020 20: 18 New
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    Russian weapons ensured Armenia supremacy in the air of Transcaucasia: Azerbaijan doubts
    Air supremacy is not ensured. Command of the air conquered!
  13. Zaurbek 14 January 2020 22: 02 New
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    It would be better if they put Su30 in our base in Armenia ..... I don’t know why they gave such equipment to the Armenians ?!
  14. Roman1970_1 27 February 2020 09: 57 New
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    Recent events in the Middle East have convincingly demonstrated the importance of this link in the defense of any state, so that the joy of the Armenian military is understandable.


    How is this manifested?
    Everyone who wants to fly in Syria has stopped flying?
    No haven't stopped