“Russia will buy everything”: in Ukraine, the “battle” for land law is resuming


The deputies of the “unbundled” parliament have adopted a law on the opening of the agricultural land market, which the curators from the International Monetary Fund demand from Kiev, on the nose. There is reason to believe that it will be tabled for discussion at the next meeting of the Ukrainian parliament as "urgent." At the same time, starting January 14th, the Joint Headquarters for the Protection of Ukrainian Land announced the continuation of protests against the “anti-people’s decision to sell off the national treasure.”


What is wrong with this notorious bill No. 2178-10?


In the current, absolutely surreal and pretty psychic clinic everyday life, the realities of Ukraine in order to reliably cajole any undertaking, they try to tie Russia to it one way or another with the words: "Russia will buy everything." If the case burns out - victory, count in your pocket. It is on the basis of this proven know-how that one of the main smokers of protest actions against the "land sellers" acts - radicals from the same "Freedom." They say that it is worth the deputies to vote “for” - the oligarchs from the “aggressor country” will flock in packs with full suitcases of money, and they’ll buy everything up to the last hectare. And there will be nowhere for the poor patriots, who have not yet left to work in Poland and other "Europeans", to go ...

A terrible prospect. Heartbreaking, I would say. But only in this case there is a typical shift from a sick head to a healthy, so beloved by the throaty and unscrupulous tribe of professional "patriots" in almost to the foundation of a destroyed country. It is precisely against any persons or companies participating in the purchase of Ukrainian black soil, at least somehow, albeit indirectly associated with Russia, the “fuses” in the bill are the most reliable ones. Starting from a direct ban on acquiring at least a couple of hundred to persons with Russian citizenship or enterprises having those among the founders to not allowing “persons from the sanctions lists” to offshore companies and companies whose ultimate beneficiary is impossible to establish. In preparation for adoption, the law in black and white means: to sell only to citizens of Ukraine and the firms they founded. So, there are no problems and all the violent protests with pigs in a coffin - a storm in a glass of water? Not certainly in that way.

Sober-minded Ukrainian experts note that the mass of loopholes that were invisible to the naked eye and several times rewritten to complete unrecognizability was left behind. And it is precisely because of them that the “non-fallowing” agrarians, especially small farmers and ordinary peasants, can really lose their land-nourishment. Moreover, all attempts to nod at the “Moscow hand” in this case are simply ridiculous. First of all, Russia has enough of its land, if it were hands to cultivate it ... But the main point is that initially the initiative to turn the agricultural land of Ukraine into a purchase and sale site belonged to the curators of Ukraine from the IMF. In recent years, it was they who entangled Kiev with so many commitments of both material and political nature that, in principle, they could demand that the authorities controlled by them take any decisions to suit themselves. To the fact that bill No. 2178-10 was written out just under the interests of international financial tycoons, there is reinforced concrete evidence.

The only, in fact, foreign companies that can freely buy up fertile black soil, as well as other soils of Ukraine, in accordance with it, are banks! Moreover, if for other owners there is a restriction on the purchase of 10 thousand hectares, then for financial institutions, including foreign ones, it is absent as such. The “relatively fair weaning” scheme is as simple as lowing - bankers will receive land as collateral for loans. The fact that any loan can be made irrevocable in principle, to clarify, I think is not necessary. Within two years, the financiers who allegedly have to own the land will supposedly have to sell it - but it is clear that the property will be transferred to "their" people.

Well, the "battle" for the law continues. And, having invested a lot of money in support of the “post-Maidan” Ukrainian authorities, international bankers are eager to get at least something in return. In addition to agricultural hectares, a country with completely destroyed industry and infrastructure has virtually nothing. Now the Ukrainians can only say: “Goodbye, earth ...”
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  1. rocket757 14 January 2020 08: 22 New
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    Now the Ukrainians can only say: “Goodbye, earth ...”

    The prospect is sad, tragic. for any farmer.
    1. Snail N9 14 January 2020 08: 43 New
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      Poor, unhappy Ukraine ...... but how all is well in Russia ...... yes
      1. rocket757 14 January 2020 09: 14 New
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        Quote: Snail N9
        Poor, unhappy Ukraine ...... but how all is well in Russia ...... yes

        Whether there will still be \ maybe oh, oh, oh! And this is not about Krayna I oke!
      2. Qwertyarion 14 January 2020 09: 30 New
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        A tt-ozhzhzh .... !!!
        good
    2. Alex Nevs 14 January 2020 10: 22 New
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      And who does not agree - the outskirts of transplantation rates are officially recognized. There and go for the money-compensation.
    3. Losharik 14 January 2020 17: 04 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      The prospect is sad, tragic. for any farmer.

      The final stage of the robbery of the Outskirts has begun .. Fertile land will begin to be exported to the EU .. And then Ukraine will definitely be tse Europe ..
      1. rocket757 14 January 2020 17: 29 New
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        Earth was what is connected with Multiple was inextricably! It seemed so, and now it may happen that the wrong god people were baptized, since they still want to punish them.
        1. Losharik 14 January 2020 18: 21 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Earth was what is connected with Multiple was inextricably! It seemed so, and now it may happen that the wrong god people were baptized, since they still want to punish them.

          Let's see, God has punished Ukraine for some time .. Maybe they will finally understand, although I really doubt it ... hi
          1. rocket757 14 January 2020 18: 31 New
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            "God loves trinity!" .... or have they already crossed this line?
            1. Losharik 14 January 2020 19: 03 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              "God loves trinity!" .... or have they already crossed this line?

              Well, the only thing I’m sure of is that Ukraine will no longer be the state .. They didn’t pass the statehood test either this time .. Betrayal is not forgiven, but they had a chance .. Forgive me real Ukrainians.! hi
      2. Keyser soze 17 January 2020 22: 15 New
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        Fertile land will begin to be exported to the EU


        Again mythology and ignorance. We are allowed to buy land for foreigners. So what - bought up and taken out? The same black soil as in Ukraine.

        And let’s give at least one example with the land bought up and exported to the EU.
  2. Loess 14 January 2020 08: 26 New
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    adoption of the law on the opening of the agricultural land market, which curators from the International Monetary Fund demand from Kiev
    In Russia, life began to improve when the IMF and other similar organizations were denied the right to demand something and advise the Russian authorities. And immediately money appeared with debts to pay off and raise the standard of living of the people. Considering what kind of power the neighbors have right now - even if they continue to listen to the IMF's advice, they may grow wiser.
    1. tihonmarine 14 January 2020 09: 25 New
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      In Russia, life began to improve when the IMF and other similar organizations were denied the right to demand something and advise the Russian authorities.

      If you give a finger to the IMF, tomorrow it will grab your hand, you will not have time to look around, and you will be swallowed with hair.
    2. Snail N9 14 January 2020 10: 04 New
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      In Russia, life began to improve when the IMF and other similar organizations were denied the right to demand something and advise the Russian authorities. And immediately money appeared with debts to pay off and raise the standard of living of the people.

      Yes? Is life getting better in Russia? And that is true. Everything is fine with us. Well, there are small difficulties, so nonsense. And even that, the IMF is to blame. Here (at VO) Boris55 has already been broadcasting for the second year that the IMF has raised the retirement age in Russia (personally, Kristin Lagarde put his signature on the law ....) ... and indeed, it is the IMF that constantly raises the prices of natural monopolies in Russia (even such a law was issued on compensation for inflation), it raises housing and communal services prices, raised VAT, excise taxes, constantly comes up with new requisitions such as “building repairs”, “toll roads”, “rental roads”, etc. They say the IMF plans to raise personal income tax in Russia to 16% and tax pension savings, and so, they didn’t completely expel the damned adversary — the IMF from Rasseyushki, we still need to work on this .... but nothing, our President and the Russian Guard, soon, by 2000 ... on the twentieth "year, they will expel the damned IMF from Russia forever, to the delight of all the people. But the land and subsoil in Russia belong to the people under the Constitution and no one can produce and export anything there, much less sell the land without the consent of the people. . Not that in Ukraine. Yes. yes
      1. Loess 14 January 2020 10: 10 New
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        Quote: Snail N9
        Yes? And here (in VO) "Boris55" already, the second year broadcasts

        Something I did not understand you, who should I answer, you or Boris? Moreover, I did not even understand whether you agree with Boris or not? Or is this your second alias?)
    3. Nyrobsky 14 January 2020 10: 56 New
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      Quote: Less
      In Russia, life began to improve when the IMF and other similar organizations were denied the right to demand something and advise the Russian authorities.

      Not certainly in that way. Yes, Russia was able to pay its debts to the IMF ahead of schedule and reduce the amount of interest debt, but so far we have not managed to get rid of IMF custody. The IMF has imposed its rules and is imposing them. Regarding pension reform (increasing age) and increasing VAT from 18 to 22%, recommendations from the IMF were received by the Russian government in 2017, and the implementation of these recommendations was implemented in 2018. In fairness, we must admit that the IMF recommended raising VAT to 22% but the “Medvedevites”, so as not to get frustrated with the citizens, decided to demonstrate “obstinacy” and raised it to 20%. Now the government is faithfully implementing the IMF recommendations on the second wave of privatization. More details here
      http://katyusha.org/view?id=13455&utm_source=finobzor.ru
      1. Loess 14 January 2020 11: 17 New
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        Despite the fact that in general I have a negative attitude to those reforms that you cited as an example, I have my own point of view on some of them.
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        On pension reform (increase in age)

        Without justifying the government, I’ll still note that maintaining the retirement age and increasing pensions is possible only with continuous population growth. As soon as population growth stops, raising the retirement age becomes a matter of time. But the demographic failure of the 90s is not possible to overcome within one generation. So I would not exaggerate here the importance of the IMF recommendations.
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        and increase VAT

        The increase in taxes again relies more on two other factors. The first is all kind of social, and the second is that a fairly large number of the population consider it a feat not to pay taxes. At the same time, without a twinge of conscience, it uses those social services that the state is still able to provide.
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        IMF recommendations on the second wave of privatization

        I was not interested in this question, so I will leave it without comment.
      2. ccsr 14 January 2020 13: 30 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        In fairness, we must admit that the IMF recommended raising VAT to 22% but the “Medvedevites”, so as not to get frustrated with the citizens, decided to demonstrate “obstinacy” and raised it to 20%.

        But at least for the sake of objectivity, say that we have stolen the IMF recommendations a long time ago, because we do not ask for loans from them, but we ourselves are members of this organization, and even somehow influence their policies. All domestic decisions in the country are the initiative of our government, which sometimes does not lend itself to a reasonable explanation, but tying it to the IMF is at least naive, given our gold and foreign exchange reserves. Even China does not shy much to overthrow the IMF and US hegemony in the economic sense, realizing that everything will be bad if the dollar collapses completely and the US government refuses to pay its unsecured pieces of paper with the faces of the presidents.
        So do not blame the IMF - we have our own cranks in the dofig government, and what they do without IMF recommendations is obvious to me, judging by the fact that Kudrin again gives "recommendations" to Putin. They simply refer to the opinion of the IMF, and they push their own illiterate ideas into the sly.
    4. Mcar 14 January 2020 12: 04 New
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      Quote: Less
      In Russia, life began to improve when the IMF and other similar organizations were denied the right to demand something and advise the Russian authorities.

      And despite the fact that “the IMF was denied the right to demand and advise the Russian authorities,” the retirement age was raised precisely in accordance with IMF requirements / recommendations. What are we, really, naughty! This is just a coincidence.
      1. Loess 14 January 2020 12: 23 New
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        Quote: McAr
        And despite the fact that "the IMF was denied

        A little higher, I clarified my point of view exactly on the question you are interested in.
        1. Snail N9 14 January 2020 13: 02 New
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          Oh, this IMF! Right now, through the mouth of the State Duma Deputy from United Russia, Sergei Vostretsov, the IMF ( wink ) suggested making housewives pay taxes, as they are, according to the IMF ( wink ), are self-employed. This Vostretsov said in an interview with the agency Rosbalt.

          The parliamentarian noted that housewives do not belong to any social category. They are not disabled, students and have already left maternity leave. “But for benefits and in the clinic they are the first to break. Maybe then they will be provided with this according to the residual principle? ”, Vostretsov asks a question.

          He noted that, according to him, about 20 million people in Russia evade paying taxes and offered to track them down. “Do they have no children, no TIN, are they not moving? So let's look after them, ”the deputy said. Vostretsov also said that teachers and doctors have low salaries because of unscrupulous taxpayers, since the budget does not receive “trillions of rubles”.

          You see, the IMF (wink) found the reason for the poverty of Russians- "housewives do not pay taxes." Here, we will tax them, and then the dogs and cats with tax and fines, like malicious tax evaders who benefit from the owners and "then heal." Yes.
          1. Loess 14 January 2020 13: 46 New
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            Quote: Snail N9
            in Russia, about 20 million people evade taxes

            I do not know how the IMF, but 20 million taxpayers is a serious increase to the budget. And they themselves and their children enjoy the benefits that the state provides at the expense of those citizens who pay taxes. And accordingly, thereby deteriorating the quality of services for law-abiding taxpayers. With regards to the "housewives" has its own logic in this, too. There is such a thing as parental leave, maternity leave. This is enough to some extent. But why, for example, should I, as a taxpayer, provide free medical care for a healthy able-bodied person, only because this person is a “housewife”? Why should I ensure from my taxes the opportunity to receive education and the same medical care for children of a healthy, able-bodied, but not working "housewife"? Let a person have many children, but this person will work and then it will turn out that from "each according to his ability" in relation to taxes. This is normal. But to provide social benefits for an outright idler is both unprofitable and immoral and not fair. You must either make him work, or deny him social equality if he is a healthy, able-bodied person.
            1. Snail N9 14 January 2020 15: 33 New
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              Correctly. And we also have homeless people, they’re out, every day they dig through the garbage cans and drag aluminum cans from there, they collect paper, scrap metal, and they donate it all FOR MONEY! FOR MONEY, Karl! And without paying taxes on the money received! And some even help in stalls to carry something there, unload, load and, again, without paying taxes on the food they feed there! This is how much the budget loses tax revenues from this category of citizens! The mess. However, it is difficult to tax them - go find out how much they get there, earn. But homeless people, every year more and more. Therefore, I suggest that all citizens of Russia, upon reaching 18 years of age, automatically assign the status of "self-employed" and let them pay this tax at a fixed rate, like for a patent, or prove that they study somewhere and are not subject to taxation, serve or they pay already, taxes as working or business owners, on a different taxation scale, then there will be complete justice and budget fullness. wassat
              1. Loess 14 January 2020 15: 40 New
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                Quote: Snail N9
                And we also have homeless people

                That's what the market economy does with people - you offer to take a tax on the homeless, but for example I have another proposal - to attach them to the case, even if forcibly. And for the homeless, it is more useful for society.
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                I suggest that all citizens of Russia, upon reaching 18 years of age, automatically assign the status of "self-employed"

                But in fact it is, all citizens who have reached 18 years old are divided into dependents (these are students, if that), working and unemployed. And in this case, the “unemployed” is the very “housewife” who gets all the social buns without bringing any benefit to society.
                1. Snail N9 14 January 2020 15: 56 New
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                  The benefit to society, the homeland is the main thing! Already, a draft law is being prepared on the "Presumption of consent for posthumous donation", a very useful law, even after their death, citizens will serve, already as spare parts for their homeland. The state will be able to sell their organs either for a currency that is very necessary for the state, or save a sick official who is very useful to the state and possibly other wealthy citizens, or whoever is standing in line for transplantation will get something to repair their body.
                  https://ria.ru/20191231/1563037401.html wassat
                  1. Loess 14 January 2020 16: 06 New
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                    Quote: Snail N9
                    The benefit to society, the homeland is the main thing!

                    Is it not so?
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                    Now, a draft law is being prepared

                    Well, I'm sorry, but "a draft law is being prepared" - so far this is the level of gossip, I see no reason to even discuss it.
              2. Sergej1972 15 January 2020 12: 10 New
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                According to visual observations, homeless people, on the contrary, became much less.
  3. bessmertniy 14 January 2020 08: 33 New
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    A very dangerous game of lawmakers. As a result, there can be not only just a massive purchase of Ukrainian lands by Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, etc., but also just their withdrawal from circulation in order to eliminate Ukrainian food competition in the food market of Western Europe. hi
  4. antivirus 14 January 2020 08: 48 New
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    Russians are coming..
    buy everything said gold
    I’ll take everything said damask.
    Fear Buryat in a padded jacket.
  5. Sancho_SP 14 January 2020 08: 57 New
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    And, in fact, so what? The main thing at the level of law is to leave the mechanism of land confiscation in case of inefficient use. Then it will be possible to sell the same thing several times ..
  6. Liss Nikita 14 January 2020 09: 06 New
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    It would be great if it turned out to be True!
  7. tihonmarine 14 January 2020 09: 22 New
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    Moreover, if for other owners there is a restriction on the purchase of 10 thousand hectares, then for financial institutions, including foreign ones, it is absent as such
    Tear Ukraine apart like an Ace warmer.
  8. Dur_mod 14 January 2020 09: 33 New
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    The main thing is to introduce a ban on the sale of land to foreigners! This is important, then the head will not hurt. There is a lot of land in Russia, just like in Ukraine, but what kind of yield per hectare does soy, rapeseed, wheat, corn, sunflower grow there? In Ukraine, good crops of these crops are in the center, and the land is the most expensive there, as well as local farmers and agricultural holdings themselves dream of buying everything.
  9. 30143 14 January 2020 09: 56 New
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    Got a photo

    If you compare two politicians with an interval of 100 years, it becomes interesting
    1. Dur_mod 14 January 2020 11: 47 New
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      And what is the comparison, what did you want to say?
      1. 30143 14 January 2020 14: 19 New
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        If you want to reflect, I recommend the link: https://khersonline.net/lenta/151669-zhertva-revolyucii-ili-zaschitnik-nacionalnyh-interesov-poydet-li-zelenskiy-po-stopam-kerenskogo.html
  10. knn54 14 January 2020 10: 56 New
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    Do you think that Zelensky will also run away in a "women's dress"?
    Another confirmation that banks rule the world. Earth. which has become a mortgage, can be sold to anyone. And in whose hands banks and finances. It is not necessary to explain. I think that in the Rada NOBODY proposed an amendment to ban the use of land as collateral. Although it would still not have passed
  11. aybolyt678 14 January 2020 12: 08 New
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    When will the Russian Empire begin to acquire land? what is needed for this? Crimea alone is somehow not enough for a world power!
    1. Dur_mod 14 January 2020 12: 17 New
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      Is 1/6 of land small? Do you have fogged glasses?
      1. aybolyt678 14 January 2020 12: 25 New
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        off-topic answer winked and on your question I’ll say that there are not enough warm edges.
  12. rosomaha 14 January 2020 12: 51 New
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    Well, right in the subject ... well, what did they want ...
  13. iouris 14 January 2020 22: 50 New
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    ... and sell. But already cheaper.
  14. gridasov 19 January 2020 15: 40 New
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    Of course he’ll buy it! And the power will still be pro-Russian. Mentality and
    The basic foundations of worldview and culture are so close that it’s even a sin to say that these nations are different nations.
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      Maj 19 January 2020 15: 43 New
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      Quote: gridasov
      Mentality and
      The basic foundations of worldview and culture are so close that it’s even a sin to say that these nations are different nations.

      Just the mentality of Little Russians and Great Russians is completely different. Diametrically opposite even.
      And the mentality of Ruthenians (Galicians) and Litvinians, it is even further from the mentality of Great Russians.
      1. gridasov 19 January 2020 15: 47 New
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        we put different meanings in this concept. Moreover, if you carefully consider that it is not the Ukrainians who seek to secede from Russia, but Russia creates all the conditions for exclusion. In addition, Galicians are now so diluted with other principles that talking about their potential is stupid. And then money compensates for all aspects!
        1. Maj
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          Quote: gridasov
          it is not Ukrainians who seek to secede from Russia

          Ukrainians seek to secede from Russia. And always sought. At the first opportunity.
          The only ones who want to live together, but not only with Russia, but in general, with everyone, as before in the USSR, are Soviet. Russia no longer has any supporters in Ukraine.
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          talking about their potential is stupid.

          You are wrong.
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          And then money compensates for all aspects!

          And you are mistaken in this.
          1. gridasov 19 January 2020 15: 56 New
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            I’m never mistaken! Only you will not have the opportunity to check it!
  15. gridasov 19 January 2020 16: 19 New
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    We consider the process, and if we use the appropriate terminology, then as soon as the Ukrainians feel that all the places on the planet are already occupied and in order to defend their place as pieces of earth and what they call their identity, and behind the soul there is only confusion and loss of all identity. So they will immediately go look for a wing under which they can be saved. It is not worth telling how many applicants and methods of seizing the territories of present-day Ukraine. Russia is now in the place of a philosophical image that they hate for all the good deeds that it, as a historical image of statehood, did decades ago. Therefore, there is biblical wisdom - do not bring good or evil. Do what your heart tells you in certain circumstances and at that moment in time when this can be done.
  16. iouris 20 January 2020 20: 02 New
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    So this is Russia. It turns out that Russia will buy Russia. Meaning?