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The Agony of the Third Reich. 75 years of the Vistula-Oder operation

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The Agony of the Third Reich. 75 years of the Vistula-Oder operation

Residents of Poznan salute Soviet liberating tankers sitting on a heavy tank IS-2. 1st Belorussian Front


75 years ago, the Vistula-Oder offensive operation began, one of the most successful and large-scale offensives of the Red Army during the Great Patriotic War. Soviet troops liberated a significant part of Poland west of the Vistula, captured the bridgehead on the Oder and ended up 60 km from Berlin.

The situation on the eve of the offensive


By the beginning of 1945, the military-political situation in the world and in Europe had developed in favor of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition. The grand victories of the Soviet Union over the German bloc in 1944 had a decisive influence on the further development of World War II. The Third Reich was left without allies. Italy, Romania, Bulgaria and Finland left the Nazi bloc and entered the war with Germany. The Allies maintained a strategic initiative. Since the summer of 1944, Berlin has been fighting on two fronts. The Red Army was advancing from the east, and the Americans, British and French from the west.

In the West, allied forces cleared the Nazis from France, Belgium, Luxembourg and part of Holland. The Western Front line ran from the mouth of the Meuse River in Holland and further along the Franco-German border to Switzerland. The allies here had complete superiority in forces: 87 fully-equipped divisions, 6500 tanks and over 10 thousand aircraft against the German 74 weak divisions and 3 brigades, about 1600 tanks and self-propelled guns, 1750 aircraft. The superiority of the allies in manpower and means was: in manpower - 2 times, in the number of tanks - 4, combat aircraft - 6 times. And this superiority has been constantly growing. In addition, the German high command held the most combat formations on the Russian front. On the Italian front, the allied forces were stopped by the Germans at the turn of Ravenna, Pisa. It operated 21 divisions and 9 brigades against 31 divisions and 1 brigade of Germans. The Germans also held 10 divisions and 4 brigades in the Balkans, against the People's Liberation Army of Yugoslavia.

In total, in the West, Berlin held about a third of its forces. The main forces and means still fought in the East, against the Russian armies. The eastern front remained the main front of the world war. The Anglo-American High Command, after a forced stoppage of the offensive, was about to resume movement and quickly break into the depths of Germany. The Allies planned to forestall the Russians in Berlin and to advance in some parts of Central Europe. In this England and the United States contributed to the leadership strategy of the Third Reich, which continued to hold its main forces and means on the Russian front.


The agony of the Third Reich


The situation in Germany was catastrophic. In the gigantic battles in the East, the Germans were defeated, suffered irreparable losses in manpower and equipment. The main strategic groups of the Germans on the Eastern Front were defeated, the strategic reserves of the Wehrmacht were depleted. The German armed forces could no longer regularly and fully receive replenishment. Berlin's strategic defense plan collapsed. The Red Army continued the victorious offensive. The military-economic potential of the German Empire sharply decreased. The Germans lost almost all previously captured territories and resources of the satellite countries. Germany was deprived of sources of strategic raw materials and food. German military industry still produced a large number weapons and technology, but already at the end of 1944, military production decreased significantly and at the beginning of 1945 continued to fall.

However, Germany was still a strong adversary. The German people, although they had lost hope of victory, were loyal to Hitler, retained the illusions of a "honorable world" if they "survive" in the East. The German armed forces totaled 7,5 million people, the Wehrmacht included 299 divisions (including 33 tank and 13 motorized) and 31 brigades. German troops retained high combat efficiency, could inflict strong and skillful counterattacks. He was a strong, experienced, and cruel adversary to be reckoned with. Military factories hid underground and in the rocks (from the blows of the Allied aviation) and she continued to supply troops with weapons and ammunition. The technical potential of the Reich was high, the Germans until the end of the war continued to improve aircraft, produce new heavy tanks, guns and submarines. The Germans created a new long-range weapon - jet planes, FAU-1 cruise missiles, and FAU-2 ballistic missiles. The infantry was armed with Faust cartridges - the first anti-tank grenade launchers, very dangerous in close and urban combat. Moreover, during the 1944 campaign, the length of the Soviet-German front was significantly reduced. This allowed the German command to consolidate battle formations.

The military-political leadership of the Third Reich was not going to lay down their arms. Hitler continued to bet on the split of the anti-Hitler coalition. The union of imperialist powers (England and the USA) with Soviet Russia was unnatural. The Anglo-Saxons at the beginning of the World War made a bet on the destruction of the USSR by Hitler, and then they were going to finish off weakened Germany, crush Japan and establish their own world order. Therefore, the West did its utmost to delay the opening of the second front, that the Russians and Germans bled each other as much as possible. However, these plans failed. The Red Army smashed the Wehrmacht and the Russians began to liberate Europe. If the allies had not landed in France, then the Russians could well have entered Paris again. Now England and the United States sought to get ahead of the Russians in Berlin, and occupy as much territory as possible in Europe. But the contradictions between the democracies of the West and the USSR have not disappeared. At any moment, a new world war could erupt - the Third.

Therefore, Hitler and his entourage tried with all their might to drag out the war, turning Germany into a besieged fortress. It was hoped that the Anglo-Saxons and Russians were about to cling to each other, and the Reich would be able to avoid complete defeat. Secret negotiations were conducted with the Westerners. Part of Hitler’s entourage was ready to either remove or surrender the Führer in order to negotiate with the West. To preserve the fighting spirit of the Wehrmacht and at least somehow support the faith of the population in the Fuhrer, German propaganda spoke of a "miracle weapon" that would soon appear and crush the enemies of the Reich. The German "gloomy genius" really led the development of atomic weapons, but the Nazis did not have time to create it. At the same time, total mobilization continued, formed a militia (Volkssturm), the elderly and young men were thrown into battle.

The basis of military plans was a tough defense. It was obvious to German generals that, from the perspective of a great strategy, the war was lost. The only hope is to keep your lair. The main danger came from the Russians. It was impossible to agree with Moscow after the shed blood. Therefore, in the East they planned to stand to death. On the Russian front were the main forces and the best divisions. The front line only in East Prussia passed on German soil. Also in Northern Latvia, the Army Group North was blocked (34 divisions). The Germans still held defenses in Poland, Hungary, Austria and Czechoslovakia. This was the huge strategic foreground of the Wehrmacht, on which Berlin hoped to keep the Russians away from the vital centers of the Third Reich. In addition, these countries had vital resources for the Reich, industrial and rural potential necessary to continue the war. With all this in mind, the German High Command decided to keep the existing borders, and to launch powerful counterattacks in Hungary. To create a solid defense, reinforced construction of fortifications was carried out, cities were turned into fortresses, and they were prepared for all-round defense. In particular, seven defensive lines up to 500 km deep (between the Vistula and the Oder) were built in the central, Berlin direction. A powerful defense line was in East Prussia, built on the former German-Polish and southern borders of the Reich.

But Berlin still hoped to find a common language with the West, using the slogan of the “red threat” - “Russians are coming!” It was necessary to show England and the USA their strength, the need for a future struggle with Soviet Russia. Taking advantage of the temporary lull on the fronts, Berlin organized a powerful blow on the Western Front, in the Ardennes. On December 16, 1944, three German armies of Army Group B launched an offensive on the northern section of the Western Front. The Germans showed the Allies how much a pound of dashing. The situation was critical. There was even a fear that the Nazis would break through to the English Channel and arrange a second Dunkirk for the Allies. Only the lack of strong reserves did not allow the Germans to develop their first success. Berlin showed its power to the Anglo-Saxons, but did not strike at full strength (for this, the armies in the East would have to be weakened). Thus, the German leadership demonstrated the strength of the Reich, hoping for a separate peace with the West, after which it would be possible to turn bayonets against Russia together.

In the future, the German high command was no longer able to organize powerful strikes in the West. This was due to events in the East. In December 1944, Soviet troops surrounded a powerful Budapest enemy group (180 thousand people), which forced the Germans to transfer forces from the Western Front to the Eastern. At the same time, Hitler’s Headquarters learned that the Red Army was preparing an offensive on the Vistula, in the main, Berlin direction, and in Prussia. The German High Command began to prepare the transfer of the 6th SS Panzer Army and other units from West to East.

At the same time, the Nazi leadership was mistaken in assessing the forces of the Red Army and in the direction of the main attack. The Germans expected the Russians to resume the offensive in the winter of 1945. However, taking into account the severity and bloodshed of the battles of 1944, Berlin believed that the Russians would not be able to attack all along the front. Hitler’s headquarters believed that the Russians would strike the main blow again in the southern strategic direction.


Members of the Volkssturm in November 1944

Moscow plans


The Red Army was preparing during the 1945 campaign to finish off the Third Reich and complete the liberation of the European countries enslaved by the Nazis. By the beginning of 1945, the military-economic power of the Union had increased even more. The economy developed in an ascending line, the most difficult tests in the development of the Soviet rear were left in the past. The economy was restored in the liberated regions of the country, metal smelting, coal mining, and electricity generation increased. Particular success was achieved in engineering. The Soviet socialist in the most difficult and terrible conditions showed its effectiveness and enormous opportunities, defeating the Nazi "European Union".

The troops were provided with everything necessary. Modernized combat aircraft, tanks, self-propelled guns were put into service. The growth of the country's economy led to an increase in the power of the Red Army, a sharp increase in its motorization and equipping with technical and engineering means. So, in comparison with the beginning of 1944, the saturation of military equipment increased: more than 2 times for tanks, 1,7 times for planes. At the same time, the troops had high morale. We smashed the enemy, freed our land, went to storm German strongholds. Significantly increased the level of combat skill of both ordinary and command personnel.

In early November 1944, the Soviet Headquarters decided to temporarily switch to the defense of the troops of the 2nd and 1st Belorussian and 1st Ukrainian Fronts, acting against the main strategic group of the Wehrmacht - the Warsaw-Berlin direction. For the development of this offensive, careful preparation was required, the creation of the necessary superiority of forces and means. At the same time, the offensive was planned to develop in a southerly direction, in the strip of the 3rd, 2nd and 4th Ukrainian fronts. The defeat of the German group in the Budapest region was supposed to weaken the enemy’s defense in the central sector of the Soviet-German front.

As a result, it was decided at the first stage to intensify actions on the flanks, in the south - in Hungary, then in Austria, and in the north - in East Prussia. Offensive operations on the flanks of the front that unfolded in November and December led to the Germans throwing their reserves there and weakening the troops in the main Berlin direction. At the second stage of the campaign, they planned to deliver powerful blows all over the front, defeating enemy groups in East Prussia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Austria and Germany, taking the main vital centers, Berlin, and forcing them to surrender.


The forces of the parties


Initially, the start of operations in the main area was planned for January 20, 1945. But the start date of the operation was postponed to January 12 in connection with the problems of the Anglo-American troops in the West. On January 6, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill addressed Joseph Stalin. He asked Moscow to begin a major operation in the coming days, in order to force the Germans to transfer part of their forces from the Western to the Eastern Front. The Soviet Headquarters decided to support the allies, since the offensive was already being prepared.

Fulfilling the order of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command (SVKK), the troops of the 1st Belorussian and 1st Ukrainian fronts under the command of Marshals Zhukov and Konev went on the offensive from the Vistula border. Soviet troops had a great advantage over the enemy in forces and means. Two Soviet fronts had over 2,2 million people, 34,5 thousand guns and mortars, about 6,5 thousand tanks and self-propelled guns, and about 4,8 thousand aircraft.

The Soviet Army in Poland was opposed by the German Army Group “A” (“Center” from January 26), which combined the 9th and 4th Panzer Armies, as well as the main forces of the 17th Army. They had 30 divisions, 2 brigades and several dozen separate battalions (garrisons of cities). A total of about 800 thousand people, about 5 thousand guns and mortars, more than 1,1 thousand tanks. The Germans prepared between the Vistula and the Oder seven defense lines, with a depth of up to 500 km. The first was the strongest - the Vistula defensive line, which consisted of four bands with a total depth of 30 to 70 km. Best of all, the Germans strengthened the areas in the areas of Magnushevsky, Pulawsky and Sandomierz bridgeheads. Subsequent defensive lines consisted of one or two lines of trenches and separate strong points. The sixth defensive line passed along the old German-Polish border, and had a number of fortified areas.


The commander of the 384th guards heavy self-propelled artillery regiment, Lt. Col. Ilya Egorovich Malyutin, sets the task to subordinate officers - battery commanders. 1st Ukrainian Front. January 17, 1945


Residents of the Polish city of Lodz welcomed the self-propelled guns ISU-122 of the 1st Guards Tank Army. January 19, 1945


A battery of Soviet 76mm ZiS-3 divisional guns fires in Krakow. In the background, the position of the 122 mm M-30 howitzers is visible. January 1945

Wisla Oder


The 1st Ukrainian Front (UV) went on the offensive on January 12, 1945, the 1st Belorussian (BF) on January 14. Having broken through the enemy’s main line of defense at the Wislen line, the shock groups of two fronts began to rapidly break through to the west. Konev’s troops, which were operating from the Sandomierz bridgehead towards Breslau (Wroclaw), in the first four days advanced 100 km in depth and occupied Kielce. Particularly successful were the 4th Panzer, 13th Guards and 13th Armies of Generals Lelyushenko, Gordov and Pukhov. On January 17, the troops of the 3rd Guards Tank, 5th Guards, and 52nd Armies Rybalko, Zhadov, and Koroteev took the large Polish city of Czestochowa.

A feature of the operation was that the offensive of the Soviet armies was so swift that rather large enemy groups and garrisons remained in the rear of the Red Army. The advanced units rushed forward, not being distracted by the creation of a dense ring of encirclement, second echelons were engaged in the encircled enemy. That is, the 1941 situation was repeating in some respects. Only now the Russians were quickly advancing, and the Germans fell into the "cauldrons". Due to the high speed of the offensive, our troops quickly overcame the intermediate defense line along the Nida River and immediately crossed the Pilitsa and Warta rivers. Our troops reached the borders of these rivers even earlier than the retreating Nazis, who were moving in parallel. By the end of January 17, 1945, an enemy defense breakthrough was carried out along the front by 250 km and in depth by 120 - 140 km. During these battles, the main forces of the 4th Panzer Army, the 24th Tank Reserve Corps were defeated, and the 17th Army suffered great damage.


The unit of Soviet light self-propelled artillery installations SU-76M on a march along the street of the Polish city of Czestochowa


A column of German prisoners sent to the rear of the 1st Ukrainian Front along the bridge over the Oder

The troops of the 1st BF struck the main blow from the Magnushevsky bridgehead in the general direction to Poznan and at the same time from the Pulawski bridgehead to Radom and Lodz. On the right flank of the front was an attack on the Warsaw Wehrmacht grouping. On the third day of the offensive, the 69th Army of Kolpakchi and the 11th Panzer Corps liberated Radom. During the fighting on January 14-17, the troops of the 47th and 61st armies of Perhorovich and Belov, the 2nd Guards Tank Army Bogdanov (she developed an offensive behind enemy lines), the 1st Army The troops of the Polish General Poplavsky liberated Warsaw. On January 18, Zhukov’s troops completed the rout of German troops encircled west of Warsaw. On January 19, our troops liberated Lodz, on January 23 - Bydgoszcz. As a result, the Soviet armies quickly advanced to the borders of Germany, to the border of the Oder. The breakthrough of the Konev and Zhukov forces was facilitated by the simultaneous offensive of the 2nd and 3rd Belorussian fronts in northwestern Poland and East Prussia, and the 4th Ukrainian front in the southern regions of Poland.

The troops of the 1st UF on January 19 forces of the 3rd Guards Tank, 5th Guards and 52nd armies reached Breslau. Here fierce battles ensued with the German garrison. On the same day, the troops of the left wing of the front — the 60th and 59th armies of Kurochkin and Korovnikov — liberated Krakow, the ancient Polish capital. Our troops occupied the Silesian industrial region, one of the vital centers of the German Empire. The Nazis cleared southern Poland. Soviet troops by the end of January - beginning of February on a wide front went to Oder, capturing bridgeheads in the areas of Breslau, Ratibor and Oppeln.

The troops of the 1st BF continued to develop the offensive. They surrounded the Poznan and Schneider Dumas Wehrmacht groups, and on January 29 entered German territory. Soviet troops crossed the Oder and captured bridgeheads in the areas of Kustrin and Frankfurt.

In early February 1945, the operation was completed. Turning in a strip of up to 500 km, our troops advanced in depth to 500 - 600 km. The Russians liberated most of Poland. The troops of the 1st BF were only 60 km from Berlin, and the 1st UV reached the Oder in its upper and middle reaches, threatening the enemy in the Berlin and Dresden directions.

The Germans were stunned by the swiftness of the Russian breakthrough. The Wehrmacht tank general general von Mellentin noted: “The Russian offensive beyond the Vistula developed with unprecedented strength and swiftness, it is impossible to describe everything that happened between the Vistula and the Oder in the first months of 1945. Europe has not known anything like this since the demise of the Roman Empire. ”

During the offensive, 35 German divisions were destroyed, and 25 divisions lost 50 - 70% of the personnel. A huge wedge was driven into the strategic front of the Wehrmacht, the tip of which was in the Kustrin region. In order to close the gap, the German command had to remove over 20 divisions from other sectors of the front and from the West. The Wehrmacht's offensive on the Western Front was completely stopped, troops and equipment were transferred to the East. This victory was of great importance for the outcome of the entire 1945 campaign.


Soviet soldiers disembark from a landing boat during the Vistula-Oder operation


Soviet units on Ford-GPA amphibians (American-made) force the Oder River


Soviet units on Ford-GPA amphibians force the Oder River. February 1945
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 14 January 2020 05: 54
    +8
    This is it for the summer of the 41st! For nefig.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 14 January 2020 08: 04
      15
      The rate of advance of the Soviet army in the operations of 1944-45 was higher than the rate of the German offensive in the summer of 1941, in addition, our attack was on prepared defense lines.
      1. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 08: 30
        18
        Aviator_ (Sergey)
        The pace of the offensive of the Soviet army in the operations of 1944-45
        In general, it seems that by the 44th year the Germans had forgotten how to fight at all, and we, on the contrary. Operation Bagration is a masterpiece of military art, and its results overshadow all the initial victories of the Nazis in 1941.
        And I’m just enraged by our local liberal Russophobia, who reproach Stalin for a pact with Germany. He, like no one else, understood that in 1941 we were not ready for war at all. If the war began a year later, and perhaps the Germans would never have gone beyond the Stalin line. But the history of the subjunctive moods is not known to be known. It was as it was.

        P.S. My grandfather is a direct participant in these events. He has Polish awards, the Grunwald Cross, the medal for Warsaw, the medal for the Oder, the diploma of the Polish army.
        By the way, the Poles did not like almost more than the Germans, he said that there is simply no meaner and more ungrateful people. After the war, he taught Polish officers artillery for two more years, he knew two languages ​​German and Polish. There is even a photo where he is in Polish uniform.
        Eternal memory to our glorious ancestors and eternal shame to those who are trying to forget and rewrite it!
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 09: 59
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          In general, it seems that by the 44th year the Germans had forgotten how to fight at all, but we were vice versa
          Yes, grind the experienced nemchuru already basically. It is only in Nazi propaganda that no more than a quarter of the mobilized 20 million was lost.
          1. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 10: 09
            +8
            Vladimir_2U (Vladimir)
            Yes, grind the experienced nemchuru already basically.
            I do not argue. Losses near Moscow, Leningrad, Sevastopol, Stalingrad and other battles the Germans were not able to compensate. To the Kursk Bulge, the Germans gathered the last of the most combat-ready.
            It is only in Nazi propaganda that no more than a quarter of the mobilized 20 million was lost.
            I, too, always ask our liberalists, but what happened to the Wehrmacht by 1945? Why did Berlin defend Volkssturm and the Hitler Agent, where did the rest go away ?!
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 14 January 2020 11: 30
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              I, too, always ask our liberalists, but what happened to the Wehrmacht by 1945? Why did Berlin defend Volkssturm and the Hitler Agent, where did the rest go away ?!

              And the rest, from the Wehrmacht and the SS, at that time painfully reflected on their favorite Russian question - "What to do?" smile
              Because the operation to capture Berlin initially provided for the cutting off of regular army units from the city - which happened in real life. The race with a breakthrough through the Zeelovskie Heights was precisely the purpose of the Soviet troops entering the outer contours of Berlin before the German units were pulled there from the front or reserves were drawn from the depths.
              The front-line soldiers managed to cut off almost all of them - no more than a division managed to retreat to Berlin (the remnants sat in the cauldron for a while, and then went on a desperate breakthrough towards Wenck). They also managed to meet Steiner's group from the north. They managed to parry the blow of Wenck's army at the last moment - his divisions literally crashed into the Soviet tank formations rushing to close the ring around the city. As a result, Wenck did not reach Berlin, but helped to get out of the encirclement of a part of the 9th Army (thereby "cut off front-line soldiers").
              In short, ours got burgers Berlin - separately, and fly Wehrmacht - separately.
              1. Alexander Suvorov
                Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 12: 46
                +3
                I am aware of both the Wreath, and the boilers, and everything that you have described here.
                I wrote about the losses of the Wehrmacht by the year 1945. This is what I wrote about:
                In total, in 1939-1945, 21 107 000 people were called up for military service in Germany.
                If you look at the data from the book "The German Ground Army. 1933 - 1945" Burkhart Müller-Hillebrand:
                Total mobilized from 01.06.1939/30.04.1945/17 - to 893/200/XNUMX - XNUMX XNUMX XNUMX people.
                The difference is 3213800 people, i.e. these 3213800 people were the Wehrmacht’s personal headquarters until mobilization since 1939.
                If this is so, but judging by the reinforced concrete calculations it is, then where did millions of German soldiers go ?!
                About unaccounted for the dead
                As you know, according to Müller-Gillebrand, Germany was mobilized during the war years: 17 people.
                According to him, in the armed forces of the Third Reich:
                2 people were killed.
                Missing or captured - 2 870 404 people.
                Wounded and sick in hospitals at the time of surrender - 700 people.
                455 people were demobilized for health reasons during the war years.
                Total out of order - 6 people
                Thus, under the gun should remain:
                17 893 200 - 6 255 872 = 11 637 328 people.
                Meanwhile, the armed forces of Germany in 1945 amounted to 7 thousand people.
                Looking for shortage:
                11 637 328 - 7 830 000 = 3 807 328 people.
                Total 3 807 328 unaccounted for people.
                And now we add that according to the total mobilization of January 13, 1943 (the end of the Battle of Stalingrad), everyone was rowing into the army. To the Kursk Bulge, they scraped together somewhat more or less battle-worthy, but after that they already took the lame and oblique. As a result, mobilized in the 1945th, it is either old people of 50-60 years old or dairy-goats 16-18 years old. Calling them a full-fledged Wehrmacht of the 1941 model will not turn your tongue. What am I talking about!
                1. Octopus
                  Octopus 14 January 2020 12: 59
                  -8
                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  To the Kursk Bulge, they scraped together even more or less battle-worthy, but after that they already took the lame and oblique

                  So few of the liberals beat the Red Army. Wow, with whom they fought for two years.
                  1. Alexander Suvorov
                    Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 13: 01
                    +4
                    Octopus
                    Wow, with whom they fought for two years.

                    I forgot to ask you ...
                    So few of the liberals beat the Red Army.
                    Why, write so, that even I didn’t humiliate the Red Army ... laughing
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 January 2020 17: 27
                  +3
                  By the 44th, the majority of instructors had been sent to the front, they mostly sent shell-shocked and crippled people to training posts in schools / schools, hence the saying “the German is not the same to go.”
                3. Viktor Sergeev
                  Viktor Sergeev 15 January 2020 12: 55
                  +1
                  Yes, but the Red Army probably had a different approach, they launched the release of cyborgs or clones. The Germans had a huge reserve, according to people, together with the allies, they exceeded the USSR, many Germans had armor, worked in factories and they were not lame and oblique. Many boys grew up during this time, and they were prepared in advance.
                  The level of the Wehrmacht was high until the end of the war, no worse than ours, except that there were seams in aviation.
                  We defeated a perfectly trained, armed, who had a powerful industry (exceeding the USSR many times) enemy. This is the valor of our grandfathers and we do not need to compose fairy tales about the lame and oblique, this humiliates the winners.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 14 January 2020 10: 21
          +7
          Alexander Suvorov---- It's great that you learned a lot from your grandfather, talked to him.

          And as for the liberal Russophobia, I want to add the following. Long-term stories, films about how everything was good and good-looking under the tsar, are gradually doing their job. I observe that even ordinary people begin to imagine themselves in that past life as successful, well-off, by no means workers, or peasants, who were the majority in Russia ....
          So ---- talk more and talk about good achievements of the USSR, dear comrades.
          1. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 10: 29
            +7
            Reptiloid (Dmitry)
            Alexander Suvorov ---- It's great that you learned a lot from your grandfather, talked to him.
            My grandfather raised me from childhood, instead of my father. He didn’t particularly like to talk about the war, but he still said something. Moreover, he was often invited to our school for memory lessons.
            And as for the liberal Russophobia, I want to add the following. Long-term stories, films about how everything was good and good-looking under the tsar, are gradually doing their job. I observe that even ordinary people begin to imagine themselves in that past life as successful, well-off, by no means workers, or peasants, who were the majority in Russia ....
            Well, yes, they all imagined themselves as counts and barons, but ask the same olgovich, he doesn’t want to live as a simple peasant in the Republic of Ingushetia, or to work in factories for 14 hours a day at factories, that’s it ...
            So ---- talk more and talk about the good achievements of the USSR, dear comrades.
            I agree! But not only about achievements, but also about mistakes, so as not to make them in the future.
        3. BAI
          BAI 14 January 2020 13: 56
          -6
          In general, it seems that by the 44th year the Germans had forgotten how to fight at all, but we were vice versa.

          Explain how in MARCH 1945 the Panfilov Division was surrounded and 300 people left?
          1. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 14: 16
            +5
            BAI
            Explain how in MARCH 1945 the Panfilov Division was surrounded and 300 people left?
            In war as in war, anything happens. But, it is not necessary to shift a separate case of the unsuccessful action of the troops of one or another military unit to the entire army. Or am I wrong? Or did the Germans beat us in the 1945th, and not we them?

            P.S. You won’t believe it, but in 1941 separate Wehrmacht units also fell into encirclement and went out with losses, and the first order for the Wehrmacht to retreat was received on June 22, 1941 ... Remind me where it was?
            1. Octopus
              Octopus 14 January 2020 14: 43
              -13 qualifying.
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Or did the Germans beat us in the 1945th, and not we them?

              In the 45th year, "you" killed about 800 thousand people. The total losses of the USSR only for the 45th - more than 3 million.

              Do not remember and be proud - the credo of the current patriot.
              1. Alexander Suvorov
                Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 14: 49
                +5
                Octopus
                In the 45th year, "you" killed about 800 thousand people.

                The total losses of the USSR only for the 45th - more than 3 million.
                And how is this to be understood? The difference of 2,2 million. Where did it go?
                And then, if you do not rank yourself among "us", whose will you be? Ancient Ukroshumer? Judging by the comments, it was he fool .
                Painful, you really put on your pants or take off your cross ... laughing
                1. Octopus
                  Octopus 14 January 2020 15: 15
                  -9
                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  And how is this to be understood? The difference of 2,2 million. Where did it go?

                  You do not know the difference between the dead and the general?

                  OK, be proud next.
                  1. Alexander Suvorov
                    Alexander Suvorov 14 January 2020 15: 19
                    +5
                    Octopus
                    OK, be proud next.
                    Well to me, unlike people like you fool negative there is something to be proud of!
                    You do not know the difference between the dead and the general?
                    And then why so modestly? Only 3 million? Write 33 do not be shy, he will endure the monitor like the paper.
                    1. Alexey RA
                      Alexey RA 14 January 2020 16: 16
                      -1
                      Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                      And then why so modestly? Only 3 million? Write 33 do not be shy, he will endure the monitor like the paper.

                      Actually, this is the data of Krivosheev:
                      Table 140
                      Human losses of the Red Army and Navy for periods and campaigns of the Great Patriotic War
                      Campaign in Europe (1.1-9.5.1945) Human losses (thousand people) Total: 3013,5

                      Moreover, this is only a European theater. The campaign on the Far East cost us another 36,4 thousand people of total losses.
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 14 January 2020 16: 03
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            Quote: BAI
            Explain how in MARCH 1945 the Panfilov Division was surrounded and 300 people left?

            You still remember about the 7th Guards. MK, 254 sd, 294 sd and Bautzen (and about the 2nd Army of the Polish Army) - when the Germans fell on the left flank of Konev. The last cauldrons of war ...
            Reflecting the enemy’s night attack, at 6.15 on April 24, General Maksimov’s detachment, with the support of 3 tanks and 4 ISU-122, began a breakthrough through Dizu to Enkendorf. Halfway to Diza, the detachment was surrounded and, as it is written in the report of the headquarters of the 7th Guards. the mechanized corps, "most of the personnel who selflessly performed the task in the battle for joining the infantry units of 52 armies — died and only 30% made it to Niski — joined our infantry on the morning of 25.4.45." During the attempt to break out of the encirclement, the following were lost: deputy commander of the corps Hero of the Soviet Union of the Guard Major General Maximov, commander of the 25th Guards. mechanized brigades Hero of the Soviet Union Guard Colonel Dudka, chief of the operational department of the headquarters of the Guard Corps Major Udovitsky, chief of staff of the 57th Guards. Tank brigade guards Major Shestakov, deputy chief of political affairs of the corps of the guard Lieutenant Colonel Savinov and many others. In battles for Weisenberg, the corps lost 983 personnel, 10 T-34 tanks, 1 IS-2, 6 ISU-122, 3 SU-85, 3 BA-64, 6 armored personnel carriers, 20 guns and 12 mortars.

            In the battles for Bautzen from April 19 to 25, 1945, the corps lost 299 killed and 1215 people wounded, 24 T-34s, 4 armored personnel carriers, 3 M-17 anti-aircraft mounts, 9 guns and 9 mortars.

            The 254th Infantry Division, encircled in Bautzen, suffered heavy losses in a ten-day battle. According to the combat report of the headquarters of the division No. 00127 to 19.00 21.4 there were 4072 people in the formation (officers 596, sergeants 945, privates 2531), 5 SU-76, 76-mm divisional guns - 15, 122-mm howitzers - 15, 45-mm anti-tank guns - 22, 120-mm mortars - 12, 82-mm mortars - 42. After battles in the encirclement, the division became very thin. According to the combat report No. 00130 of the division’s headquarters, by 17.00:30.4.45 on 2484 there were only 452 people (officers 654, sergeants 1378, privates 76), 9-mm divisional guns - 122, 9-mm howitzers - 45, 9-mm guns - 120, 11-mm mortars - 82, 29-mm mortars - 7. The severity of the battles is eloquently testified by the report of the division commander, addressed to the command of the 21th Guards. mechanized corps on April 1945, 929: “3 joint ventures with 791/929 ap didn’t leave the encirclement, according to reports, the regiment’s personnel died in the first (erratum, more correctly“ unequal ”? - AI) fight with the enemy. Together with 791 cn there was his banner and banner 254 ap. " The commander of the 21th Infantry Division, Major General M.K. Puteiko, was seriously injured on April XNUMX and died of wounds. He was replaced by Colonel V.V. Andrianov.
            © Isaev. Berlin on the 45th.
            1. Operator
              Operator 14 January 2020 16: 21
              +5
              Losses of the 7th guards mechanized corps to the dead and wounded - 1,5 thousand people (5% of the personnel), losses of the 254th rifle division to killed and wounded - 1,6 thousand people (40% of the personnel).

              And what else could be after repelling the blow of the three tank divisions of the Germans?
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 15 January 2020 13: 38
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                Quote: Operator
                Losses of the 7th guards mechanized corps killed and wounded - 1,5 thousand people (5% of the personnel)

                In fact, 1,5 thousand people for the 7th Guards. Mk - this is almost 14%. Because at the beginning of the operation the corps was equal in number to two rifle divisions arr. 1945
                7th Guards the mechanized corps of I.P. Korchagin was one of the weakest mechanized formations among those participating in the Berlin operation as part of the 1st Ukrainian Front.
                (...)
                By April 16, the corps consisted of 10 people, 947 T-79s, 34 IS-1, 2 ISU-21, 122 SU-5, 122 SU-10 and 85 SU-10 combat-ready units. Another 76 tanks and 13 self-propelled guns were under repair. Thus, the corps in technology did not reach 2% of the staff strength at 50% of the staffing level. From some parts there was one name. So, the 70th guards. the heavy tank regiment was represented by the only IS-355 tank, the 2th self-propelled artillery regiment - 1820 SU-5.
        4. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 14 January 2020 20: 04
          +2
          My father fought in 4 air army - the North Caucasus, Crimea, Belarus, Poland, Germany. He also believed that there was no one beneath the Poles. The Germans set much higher than these nobles.
        5. destiny20
          destiny20 14 January 2020 23: 33
          -11 qualifying.
          They were not ready for war ... how many thousands of tanks were there in the USSR? for the 39th year? and Germany? yes in the world at large?
          PS
          stop defending the pact. right not funny already
      2. Octopus
        Octopus 14 January 2020 08: 58
        -7
        Quote: Aviator_
        The rate of advance of the Soviet army in the operations of 1944-45 was higher than the rate of the German offensive in the summer of 1941

        From Vistula to Oder - exactly six months. From August 1, 1944 to January 31, 1945.
        1. Operator
          Operator 14 January 2020 13: 22
          +3
          Wow, when the Red Army still managed to go on the offensive from the Vistula line - even in August 1944 (and not January 12, 1945). laughing
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 14 January 2020 13: 33
            -9
            Do you want to count a record week? Well, OK.
            1. Operator
              Operator 14 January 2020 13: 36
              +5
              Do you want to discuss an alternative story?
        2. valdissumy
          valdissumy 14 January 2020 22: 57
          0
          Actually, the Lviv-Sandomierz operation ended on August 27, 1944. You also forgot that from September 8 to November 30, 1944, the East Carpathian operation was carried out, which in terms of bloodshed was not inferior to the battles for Budapest, but, unlike the latter, its goals were not achieved. It was a purely political action with heavy losses for the Red Army.
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 15 January 2020 14: 25
            -5
            It is clear that in addition to the Vistula-Oder direction, there were other fights .. I think the pace of attack from the bridgehead to the bridgehead.
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 14 January 2020 10: 09
        +1
        Quote: Aviator_
        The rate of advance of the Soviet army in the operations of 1944-45 was higher than the rate of the German offensive in the summer of 1941, in addition, our attack was on prepared defense lines.

        Russians go !!!! Wonderful photos, schematic maps as well.
        Until the evening!
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 06: 52
    +8
    In the penultimate photo, in the background is a woman driving! Huge respect and bow to all those who fought for our Motherland, but doubly to our women in the war.
    1. valdissumy
      valdissumy 14 January 2020 09: 44
      +1
      This photo is more suitable for crossing the Vistula River on August 1, 1944 by troops of the 8th Guards Army V.I. Chuykov in the Magnushev area. Then the American anphibians helped a lot in forcing. And the last photo is already Oder.
    2. bairat
      bairat 14 January 2020 14: 13
      0
      In the foreground, like a girl driving too.
  3. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 14 January 2020 07: 32
    +4
    "Russia does not start wars! She ends them !!!"
  4. Octopus
    Octopus 14 January 2020 08: 50
    -11 qualifying.
    I think, is Samsonov really reforged and decided to take up history? Why's that?

    But no. 5 screens of ordinary altistorical geopolitical slops, Churchill hid from fear, where without it, then 3.5 screens of educational program. Grandfathers respected the 75th Great Victory, well done.
  5. Operator
    Operator 14 January 2020 09: 21
    +7
    The daily rate of the offensive of the Red Army in the Vistula-Oder operation exceeded the daily rate of the advance of the Wehrmacht from the Soviet border to Smolensk.

    But the Red Army was not able to achieve three times the fast pace with which the French army was record-breaking in the 1940s when the Germans attacked from Ardennes to the Atlantic in the Dunkirk area. laughing

    Parts of the Red Army immediately crossed the pre-war Nibelungen line on the old Polish-German border - German reservists raised white flags, which was the beginning of the collapse of the Wehrmacht.

    In 1945, the Germans ceased recording their losses among the military and civilian. According to estimates, the number of casualties killed in Germany at that time amounted to 5 million people - at the front, on the evacuation routes and behind the rear of the bombing raids on US-British aircraft.
  6. valdissumy
    valdissumy 14 January 2020 10: 12
    +2
    Photo "A battery of Soviet 76-mm ZiS-3 divisional guns firing in Krakow." apparently made after the liberation of Krakow in the second half of January 19 or even January 20, 1945.
    My father took part in the liberation of Krakow (in gratitude to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief it says "for the capture of Krakow") as part of the 4th Guards Kantemirovsky Tank Corps, he said that during the battles for the city they were forbidden to use artillery so as not to damage historical buildings. As a result, losses were higher. In the photo, a battery of guns is located on the left bank of the Vistula and is shelling the right bank occupied by the Germans.
  7. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 14 January 2020 11: 01
    +2
    Initially, the start of operations in the main area was planned for January 20, 1945. But the start date of the operation was postponed to January 12 in connection with the problems of the Anglo-American troops in the West. On January 6, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill addressed Joseph Stalin. He asked Moscow to begin a major operation in the coming days, in order to force the Germans to transfer part of their forces from the Western to the Eastern Front. The Soviet Headquarters decided to support the allies, since the offensive was already being prepared.

    Churchill’s letter with the actual timing of the start of the operation is not connected at all. The advancement of strike groups to the initial ones began already on New Year's Eve, a week before this letter. Moreover, one of the starting points was a bridgehead of 50x30 km, on which four armies were already filled. I highly doubt that our command decided to put forward striking forces three weeks before the offensive, risking their detection and putting them under German artillery fire.
    The most interesting thing is that the offensive was originally scheduled for January 8–9, 1945. But due to extremely unfavorable weather conditions that made it impossible for the Air Force to work and hindered the work of artillery, the deadline was shifted to January 12–14.

    As for the official Soviet version of premature transition to the offensive, it was first voiced by Stalin at the talks in Yalta - as a means of diplomatic pressure on the Allies in the discussion of the post-war division of Europe. That is, Stalin could say this solely for additional benefits - all the same, the Allies could not verify his words. And then the words of Stalin became the basis of official history.

    And the Allies had no crisis in January 1945. Von Rundstedt, even before Christmas, recognized the failure of the Ardennes operation and began to resolve the issue of the safe withdrawal of his troops from the formed ledge, for which it was decided to finally knock the Yankees out of Bastogne (German planning geniuses simply excluded Bastogne from the initial offensive plan, limiting themselves to the blockade - and received from himself in the rear is a classic "corner stone" with two divisions, a powerful artillery group and warehouses). The German offensive began on December 25, 1944, and on January 3, 1945, the Germans received permission to withdraw.
    1. Octopus
      Octopus 14 January 2020 13: 23
      -7
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Churchill’s letter with the actual timing of the start of the operation is not connected at all.

      With the timing of course the funniest.

      The offensive begins on December 16th. Churchill is busy, stocking up alcohol for the New Year marathon.
      December 19 meeting at Eisenhower. Beginning of the siege of Bastogne. Churchill could not stand the fuss of Christmas and went into the binge ahead of schedule.
      December 25 Patton releases Bastogne. Churchill thumps. Montgomery blocked 1A Hodges, sits and neighs with the Americans.
      January 3, Americans embark on a general offensive. The Germans reel fishing rods.
      January 6 morning, Churchill ran out of booze. He orders kefir and folders for signature. Begins to sort telegrams for the middle of December.
      January 6 in the evening. Churchill read telegrams until December 21. Frightened and knocking Comrade Telegram Stalin, save, help.
      January 12, comrade Stalin, like Chip and Dale, hurries to help the Allies.

      Quote: Alexey RA
      Rundstedt admitted the failure of the Ardennes operation before Christmas

      The Ardennes failed in terms of insane initial plans. And so they moved the Maas Rhine from Christmas to February. Given the subsequent events, this was a disaster for the Allies and for post-war Germany.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 January 2020 14: 26
        0
        Quote: Octopus
        January 3, Americans embark on a general offensive. The Germans reel fishing rods.

        5 January. Churchill alternately thumps with Ike and Monti. The allies are masters of the situation, about the Russian offensive - not a word.
        PERSONAL AND STRICT SECRET MESSAGE FROM Mr CHURCHILL TO MARSHAL STALIN
        3. I have just returned, having visited separately the headquarters of General Eisenhower and the headquarters of Field Marshal Montgomery. The battle in Belgium is very difficult, but they believe that we are the masters of the situation. The distracting offensive that the Germans are undertaking in Alsace also causes difficulties in relations with the French and tends to fetter American forces. I remain of the opinion that the size and armament of the allied armies, including the air forces, will make von Rundstedt regret his bold and well-organized attempt to split our front and possibly capture the port of Antwerp, which is now of vital importance.

        Quote: Octopus
        January 6 in the evening. Churchill read telegrams until December 21. Frightened and knocking Comrade Telegram Stalin, save, help.

        We sent Tedder to you to find out at least something about your plans for the near future, but he can’t sober up fly over. Maybe at least Comrade Stalin will tell me what his generals thought up? smile
        January 9. Churchill suffered a severe hangover and depression.
        PERSONAL AND STRICT SECRET MESSAGE FROM Mr CHURCHILL TO MARSHAL STALIN
        2. The battle in the West is not so bad. It is very possible that the Huns will be forced out of their ledge with very heavy losses. This is a battle waged mainly by the Americans; and their troops fought beautifully, with heavy casualties.
        We and the Americans are throwing everything we can into battle. The message you told me will greatly encourage General Eisenhower, as it will give him confidence that the Germans will have to share their reserves between our two flaming fronts. In the battle in the West, according to the statements of the generals leading it, there will be no interruption.

        Quote: Octopus
        The Ardennes failed in terms of insane initial plans.

        Yeah .. but let’s give the available forces we are giving qualitatively and quantitatively superior opponents, who also have absolute superiority in the air. And since there isn’t enough forces for a normal operation, we will attack like the Russians in 1942 - without worrying about the flanks and supply routes. What, Bastogne? No, we will not take the most important communication center and the location of the warehouses - we will block it, create a traffic jam in the communications in the rear, wait for the Yankees to fill it, build a fortress there - and only then will we heroically overcome, taking offensive connections and throwing them into battle right from the march, in parts.
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 14 January 2020 14: 54
          -9
          Quote: Alexey RA
          we will attack like Russians in 1942

          We will be even better than the Russians. We will paint the material supply based on stocks in the enemy’s warehouses, which we will capture intact on the way. What could go wrong?

          Who said "Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya"?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 14 January 2020 17: 03
            +1
            Quote: Octopus
            We will be even better than the Russians. We will paint the material supply based on stocks in the enemy’s warehouses, which we will capture intact on the way.

            But at the same time, consciously, even at the planning stage, we will leave untouched front-level warehouses located in the offensive zone.
            And then in our memoirs we will shed crocodile tears, that the artillery brigade of 105-mm and 155-mm guns that sat down in these warehouses beat everything that moves (and what does not move - it stirred and beat), which made it possible even to defend in a situation. "light infantry against an advancing tank or mechanized formation of the enemy".

            In general, somewhere I already saw the situation supply issues beyond their insolubility were left outside the scope of planning. Oh yes, hello IJA and Imphal operation. Campaign, just in the German headquarters, someone clearly had a Japanese passport (unlike the Italian fleet). smile
    2. Operator
      Operator 14 January 2020 13: 34
      +5
      Nothing of the kind - on January 9, 1945, the position of the allies in the Ardennes remained critical. And only after 16 days they were able to push the Germans back to their original positions. Therefore, the help of the Red Army in the form of a premature advance from the Vistula border on January 12 was decisive. At the same time, the Soviet command had to abandon the use of aircraft due to non-flying weather - in order to minimize our losses, it was necessary to advance several days later

      1. Octopus
        Octopus 14 January 2020 14: 03
        -8
        Quote: Operator
        to minimize our losses, it was necessary to advance a few days later

        To minimize our losses, you can not step at all. But war is rarely waged to minimize casualties.
        Quote: Operator
        only after 16 days they were able to push the Germans back to their original positions

        The Allies did not have the goal of dropping the Germans to any positions. Their goal was 1. To preserve the interaction of their forces north and south of the German strike. 2. Prevent threats to Antwerp. 3. Prevent threats to Liege. The Germans did not come close to any of these tasks even at the peak of the offensive.

        For the advance of the Allies to the north, to Hamburg, and to the south, to the border of Switzerland, the outline of the contact line in the Ardennes region did not matter.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 January 2020 17: 18
        0
        Quote: Operator
        Nothing of the kind - on January 9, 1945, the position of the allies in the Ardennes remained critical.

        Yeah ... especially when you consider that on January 8, 1945, a challenge began to reorganize the 6th TA SS, which deprived the Germans of any prospects whatsoever for any offensive actions. smile

        Once again, von Rundstedt had already reported on Christmas Day 1944 that the offensive had stopped and it was impossible to continue it (the leading German TD attacked the Allied division under the counterattack of two APs and got bogged down). On January 3, 1945, he received permission to withdraw. And on time - because the Allies at the end of December decided to act in German: by cutting tank formations from the north and south, cut the German wedge, and then clean the resulting boiler.

        By the way, look at the map - on January 9, 1945, the German forces in the rear remained a corridor twenty kilometers wide. An ideal road for supplying and maneuvering forces - shot through by artillery from two sides. smile Especially when you consider that from the south on this neck sits the Bastogne artillery brigade.
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 14 January 2020 17: 50
          -4
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And on time - because the Allies at the end of December decided to act in German: by cutting tank formations from the north and south, cut the German wedge, and then clean the resulting boiler.

          They decided they decided. But only Patton and Monty have a great experience in joint piling. With Faleza. Exactly Falez they performed an encore.

          Just on the map it is clearly visible. 3A comes under the base of the wedge, 21GA stands on the other side and sends towards the rays of good and moral support. Poles just were not nearby.
    3. Cetron
      Cetron 14 January 2020 23: 08
      +1
      In general, 2MB was won by great Americans and glorious British, and the Soviet Union was only confused underfoot
      1. destiny20
        destiny20 14 January 2020 23: 44
        -4
        The coalition of states won the main of which were the USSR, the United States and Britain
  8. BAI
    BAI 14 January 2020 13: 53
    +3
    1. Soviet, not Russian troops. The entire USSR fought. We will not quote "Panfilov's 28".
    2.
    The Germans created a new long-range weapon - jet aircraft,

    When did this Me-262 become long-range? A missile Me-163, in general, only take off and free fall.
  9. Operator
    Operator 14 January 2020 14: 25
    +2
    Quote: Octopus
    To minimize our losses, you don’t have to step at all

    So you and did not advance.

    Otherwise, yes: "You have to step only with a bare ass", - Octopus (C) laughing
  10. Operator
    Operator 14 January 2020 14: 49
    +6
    Quote: BAI
    in MARCH 1945 the Panfilov division was surrounded and 300 people remained from it

    Yeah yeah laughing

    Memoirs of the commander of the 10th Guards Army Mikhail Ilyich Kazakov:
    “Together with the commander of the 7th corps, Major General A.D. Kuleshov, we studied the situation on the spot and came to the conclusion that to release [two regiments] of the 8th Guards [Panfilov] division, we need a counter strike by just a few well-trained battalions. There were no such battalions in Kuleshov's reserve.Then the commander of the 19th corps, General AT Stuchenko, suggested allocating the 67th regiment of the 22nd Guards Rifle Division for this purpose.
    We reinforced the detached regiment with a separate company, supported its attack with fire from several artillery battalions, and on March 28, after a stubborn battle, it captured several enemy obstructions and blockhouses. Formed "gates" two to three kilometers wide. Panfilov's men came out through them.
    We warmly welcomed the heroes. For more than a week they fought surrounded. The soldiers and officers answered the same questions about well-being:
    “We felt good all the time.” They believed that they would help us out.
    Breaking out of the ring, the Panfilovites did not lose a single person. They took with them over a hundred wounded, including regiment commander Ivan Leontyevich Shapshaev. "
    1. BAI
      BAI 15 January 2020 22: 23
      0
      And why was the division disbanded (immediately) and restored only in sovereign Kazakhstan after the collapse of the USSR?
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 January 2020 23: 57
        +3
        Panfilov’s division retained the banner, command and personnel. On May 1, 1945, the division was part of the 10th Guards Army of the Leningrad Front.

        After the war, the division was transferred to the Military District and was deployed on the territory of the Estonian SSR. June 25, 1957 was transformed into the 8th Guards Motorized Rifle Division. Disbanded in accordance with the directive of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR No. 68054 of May 23, 1960. Re-formed in 1965 and transferred to the SAzVO. After 1991 disbanded. In 2011, it was re-formed as part of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan as the 8th Guards Motor Rifle Order of the Order of Lenin, Red Banner Order of the Suvorov Division named after Hero of the Soviet Union, Major General I.V. Panfilov.
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 14 January 2020 17: 18
    0
    Some kind of volkssturm is strange for 44 years. Neither the elderly nor the children. As for the selection. Why not in the regular army? Or all sick?
    PS My father has a similar photo. In the same hats. In rows. 1962 year. Cuba. Volunteers are sugarcane collectors.
  12. Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 14 January 2020 17: 49
    +1
    My father, the commander of the assault artillery battery of the artillery regiment of the 6th ... Rivne Division of the 13th Army of the 1st Ukrainian Front, Guards. Lieutenant Sosnitsky Vasily Andreevich, was the first to cross the Oder and entered Nazi Germany as part of his battery. Then they were thrown back, then they forced them again and went on. They forced Neisse, and then they were turned to Prague on armor on May 9 and further to Austria, where battles continued for several months in the forests and mountains. Then the third husband of his third wife told the story, after the crossing the general flies in "Who crossed it first?" Father thinks they will be shot now for knocking them back and said nothing. For the third time, the commander of another battery is me, me. At first I was upset, I would have been the son of a Hero. Then I read that this commander died a month later. She's such a flair in the war, otherwise I wouldn't have been born at all. Pride is a mortal sin. My father said this to the little guy in passing, emphasizing the tribunal. And the glory is great. After that, the whole international situation changed. Although my father was right - everyone won the war, especially those who perished in 3. They all need to be given Heroes.
  13. Fishery
    Fishery 14 January 2020 18: 19
    0
    ISU looks as if from hell)))) awesome
  14. Operator
    Operator 14 January 2020 18: 45
    +3
    Quote: Alexey RA
    On January 8, 1945, the challenge to reform the 6th SS SS began.

    But the Allies learned about this later, and until January 12 they bombarded Stalin with dispatches, where they expressed admiration for the successes of the Red Army and transparently hinted at an acceleration of the beginning of the Soviet offensive in the West.
  15. valdissumy
    valdissumy 14 January 2020 23: 25
    0
    Quote: Operator
    Losses of the 7th guards mechanized corps to the dead and wounded - 1,5 thousand people (5% of the personnel), losses of the 254th rifle division to killed and wounded - 1,6 thousand people (40% of the personnel).

    And what else could be after repelling the blow of the three tank divisions of the Germans?


    What could be? The meeting of the Red Army and allies could be in a different composition as early as April 24 and not 25.
    On April 23, 1945, at about 16 p.m., the troops of the 4th Guards Kantemirov Tank Corps took the city of Tsvetau on the Elba River with battle. Just opposite the city of Torgau. And motorcyclists of the 76th separate motorcycle battalion, at this time, I had already carried out reconnaissance of the crossing of the Elbe both on one and on the other side of the river. But at 18 o’clock the commander of the 5th Guards Army received an order to urgently close the German breakthrough near Bautzen, and the tankers transferred the right to meet the Allies to the 34th Rifle Corps.
    On April 24, the tankers were already 90 kilometers from the Elbe in the area of ​​Goeyrsverda, Neudorf and Nauslitz. Wreath did not go beyond Bautzen. My father is a member of these 76 fighter squads.
    1. Operator
      Operator 15 January 2020 18: 32
      +3
      And what's wrong with meeting with the Allies on the 25th, and not on the 24th - the Soviet zone of occupation has decreased or what?
  16. ufpb
    ufpb 15 January 2020 11: 00
    0
    And what, in the Wehrmacht there were military units with the name "brigade" ???????
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 15 January 2020 14: 22
      0
      Quote: ufpb
      And what, in the Wehrmacht there were military units with the name "brigade" ???????

      Were - Grenadier brigade "Fuhrer", Brigade escorting the Fuhrer. Plus self-propelled brigades.
  17. Operator
    Operator 15 January 2020 13: 41
    +2
    Quote: Alexey RA
    1,5 thousand people for the 7th Guards.mk - this is almost 14%

    How did this affect the combat efficiency of the corps?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 15 January 2020 17: 53
      0
      Quote: Operator
      How did this affect the combat efficiency of the corps?

      And how can the loss of almost half of the tanks and a third of self-propelled guns affect the combat efficiency of the corps? In terms of manpower, the main problem was that mostly active bayonets were knocked out, which were already lacking.
      Here, for example, the initial composition of the detachment of General Maximov:
      For action in the Weisenberg area, I.P. Korchagin assembled a detachment led by Deputy Corps Commander Major General Maximov. The squad included the 25th Guards. mechanized brigade with the 355th Guards. heavy self-propelled artillery regiment, 57th Guards. tank brigade with the 1820th self-propelled artillery regiment, artillery units. In total, General Maximov’s detachment consisted of 2043 people, fourteen T-34 tanks, one IS-2, twelve ISU-122, five SU-85, three BA-64, six armored personnel carriers, eleven 76-mm guns, nine 37-mm anti-aircraft guns , four 120 mm and twelve 82 mm mortars.

      But how it ended:
      Holding Bautzen in such conditions was pointless and simply impossible. On the night of April 25–26, the thinned brigades and the remnants of the 254th Infantry Division defended the front with the south on the way of advancing the enemy along Reichstrasse No. 96. By morning, they pulled themselves here the remains of the Weisenberg detachment, consolidated in one 57th Guards. tank brigade totaling 337 people.
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 January 2020 18: 37
        +3
        You say that as of April 7, 20, there were 1945 tanks and 30 self-propelled guns in the 50th Guards Mechanized Corps?