Where were more traitors during the Second World War?


It is unlikely that Hitlerite Germany would be able to hold out against its opponents for such a long time, if not only a number of European states, but also millions of people in occupied countries would not take its side. Their traitors were everywhere, but in some countries and regions their number was just off scale.


They remembered the cops again


In May 2020, Russia will celebrate the 75th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany. But, as they say, a war can be considered finished only when the last dead soldier is found and buried. To these words in relation to the war with Nazi Germany, one can also add that so far there has not been investigated a huge number of war crimes committed by both the Nazis and the traitors who collaborated with them - residents and citizens of states occupied by Germany.

In 2019, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation resumed investigations against the Baltic, Ukrainian and Russian collaborators who acted under the leadership of the Nazis in the occupied lands of the Soviet Union and were distinguished by special atrocities against civilians. So, a criminal case was opened on the mass murder of children in Yeysk (Krasnodar Territory). In 1941, an orphanage was evacuated to Yeysk from Simferopol. After the capture of Yeysk by the Nazis on October 9 and 10, 1942, the Nazis organized the massacre of children. In two days, 214 children from the orphanage were killed.

The execution, stunning with its cruelty, was carried out by the notorious SS 10a Sonderkommand, which operated at that time in the Rostov Region and Krasnodar Territory. This unit was commanded by Obersturmbanführer (Lieutenant Colonel) SS Kurt Kristman. A man with a university degree who received a doctorate in law, he was a staunch Nazi and served in the Gestapo during the war years. The famous execution of thousands of Soviet citizens in the Zmievsky beam in Rostov-on-Don is the work of Kurt Christman and his henchmen.

In the early 1960s, Soviet counterintelligence calculated and arrested several policemen at once who served in the Sonderkommando and participated in the massacres of civilians. In the fall of 1963, a trial of 9 former members of the Sonderkommand 10a took place in Krasnodar. Buglak, Weikh, Dzampaev, Zhirukhin, Yeskov, Psarev, Skripkin, Surguladze and Sukhov appeared before the court. All executioners were sentenced to death. However, after the war the chief of the Sonderkommand Kurt Kristman lived quietly in Germany, became a successful lawyer - one of the richest people in Munich. Only in 1980, he was arrested and sentenced to 10 years, and in 1987 he died before he lived two months before his eightieth birthday.

Now Russian investigators have again raised documents about the crimes of the Sonderkommando. The main task is to identify and prove the guilt of other German soldiers who were involved in the murder of children in Yeysk, in the reprisals against peaceful Soviet people in other cities and towns. It is clear that all these executioners have already died, but their descendants should also know what the true face of these “people” was.

In 2011, a certain Ivan Demyaniuk, a Ukrainian policeman who served as a security guard in the Sobibor concentration camp, was sentenced to 5 years in Germany. However, due to the old age, Demjanjuk was not sent to prison and in March 2012, a 91-year-old former policeman died in a German nursing home in the spa town of Bad Feilnbach. And how many of these demyanyukov remained unknown, and yet on their hands - the blood of thousands of innocent people.

Collaboration Index


When Hitler Germany began to conquer one after another the European countries, in each of them there were many people who were ready to cooperate with the invaders. Recently, the director of the fundHistorical memory ”, Alexander Dyukov presented the“ index of the intensity of collaboration ”, thanks to which we can now get an idea of ​​where there were the most people who collaborated with the Nazis.

Historians have sampled the estimated number of traitors for every 10 thousand people in countries whose territories were occupied by Germany in 1939-1945. I must say that these results are unlikely to surprise anyone - as many expected, a scientific study revealed several countries that were leaders in the number of collaborators per 10 thousand people, overtaking all other occupied territories.

The average collaboration index in countries of Western and Eastern Europe ranges from 50-80 people per 10 thousand people. Such indicators - in so different countries and regions as, for example, France and the RSFSR. So, in France, the collaboration index was 53,3 people per 10 thousand people. And this despite the fact that the French served in the Wehrmacht, in the SS. But most of the citizens of France, as we see, remained indifferent to Nazi occupation. Although not very actively resisted.

In the Soviet Union, the collaboration index was 142,8 per 10 thousand people. Such an impressive indicator at first glance became possible precisely because the collaborators of the Baltic states and Ukraine were calculated, who gave the bulk of Soviet traitors.

In the Netherlands and Belgium, the figures are even higher - approximately 200-250 per 10 thousand people. This is not surprising, since the Dutch and Flemish are very close to the Germans linguistically and culturally and were accepted into the service without any problems, and they quite willingly went to it. In Lithuania, the number of collaborators amounted to 183,3 per 10 thousand people - that is, noticeably more than the Soviet Union average, but also less than in the Netherlands and Belgium.

In tiny Luxembourg, the index was 526 per 10 thousand people. And here, too, it is hardly worth wondering, since the Luxembourgers are the same Germans, so they did not so much betray their duchy as they simply served the new German Reich.

First by the number of policemen


But the real champions in the number of collaborators are Estonia and Latvia. That's where the real forge of the progler elements was. In the Estonian SSR the number of traitors was 884,9 per 10 thousand inhabitants, and in the Latvian SSR - 738,2 per 10 thousand inhabitants. The numbers are impressive. After all, it is almost 10 times higher than in all other European countries. In fact, one in ten residents of these Baltic republics was a collaborator.

Where were more traitors during the Second World War?

Given that Estonia and Latvia never differed in the large population, these figures look very plausible. Estonian and Latvian youth willingly went to the service of the Nazis, receiving uniforms, weapon, salary, as well as the opportunity to mock with impunity civilians in the occupied territories. Estonian and Latvian policemen committed atrocities in the territories of not only the Baltic states, but also of Belarus, Poland, Ukraine, and countries of Eastern Europe. Not particularly strong in battle, they showed themselves to be unsurpassed punishers and executioners.

So, under the village of Zhestyanaya Gorka in the Novgorod region, there was an extermination camp in which 2600 people were killed. The massacres of Soviet people were dealt with by punishers of the SD Tail Command, staffed by policemen from Riga. Many of Hitler’s minions did not subsequently suffer any punishment for their atrocities, and today the authorities of Latvia and Estonia honor the few surviving SS men and policemen, representing them as fighters for “liberating the Baltic states from Soviet occupation”.

Of course, it is not worth explaining Latvian or Estonian collaborationism with the alleged tendency of these peoples to betray. It must be remembered that Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania became part of the USSR just before the start of the war. A very significant part of the population of the Baltic republics not only did not like Soviet power, but hated it. In Nazi Germany, she saw a legitimate ally and patron, to whom young and not very collaborative workers came to the service.

Given that until 1917 the leading role in the Baltic was played by the Ostsee Germans, many of whom, however, honestly served the Russian Empire, the inhabitants of the Baltic republics remained a kind of reverence for Germany and the German people. We can say that there was a kind of "return to the old masters." By the way, the main ideologist of the Third Reich Alfred Rosenberg was also an Ostsee German, and he came from Estonia (Rosenberg was born in Revel, as Tallinn was then called, in 1893).

In Latvia and Estonia, SS divisions, auxiliary battalions, and organizations of the Omakaitse type were formed — a militarized structure that organized anti-partisan raids and protected the borders of Estonia from the penetration of residents of neighboring Leningrad Region who had escaped from hunger. Service in such structures was not considered something shameful. If relatives and friends turned their backs on the Russian collaborator, and after the war he was generally unambiguously perceived as the most disgusting criminal and traitor, in Estonia and Latvia, service to Hitler was considered in the order of things. And now the governments of the Baltic states at the highest state level are engaged in the rehabilitation of their collaborators, not even embarrassed by the fact that Nazism is cruelly condemned in Germany itself.


Former SS legionnaires are perceived by the Latvian and Estonian governments as national heroes. And the investigations that are now initiated by Russian investigative bodies are called upon to reveal the true face of these “heroes.” Indeed, among the few living former SS men, there are definitely people involved in serious war crimes, including on the territory of the RSFSR, where Estonian and Latvian formations directed here by the Nazis also operated.

The heroization of Nazism and collaboration takes place today in Ukraine. Meanwhile, unlike Estonia and Latvia, the Ukrainian SSR gives completely different indicators of collaborationism, which on the whole do not differ from the average European ones. And this is due to the fact that, strictly speaking, there were “two Ukraine”. Eastern and Southern Ukraine, Donbass and Novorossia, gave us wonderful heroes - underground, the same "Young Guard", millions of Soviet soldiers and officers, partisans, who fought with honor against the Nazis. But in Western Ukraine, the situation with collaborationism was almost the same as in the Baltic states, which was also associated with the peculiarities of both the mentality of the local population and the entry of Western Ukrainian territories into the USSR.

There is no doubt that figuring out the number of traitors, establishing their names, involvement in war crimes is a very necessary and, most importantly, timely task. It is not necessary to think that if 75 years have passed since the defeat of Nazism, then you can forget everything. As we see, history comes to life today and countries such as Ukraine or Latvia, actively use collaborators of the past in the construction of modern political myths that are clearly anti-Russian.
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  1. GKS 2111 15 January 2020 05: 46 New
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    to find out the number of traitors, to establish their names, involvement in war crimes is a very necessary and, most importantly, timely task. It is not necessary to think that if 75 years have passed since the defeat of Nazism, then you can forget everything.
    Indeed, among the few living former SS men, there are definitely people involved in serious war crimes, including in the territory of the RSFSR
    Nothing is forgotten, nobody is forgotten. Neither heroes, nor traitors. There is no forgiveness to them in 75, there will be no justification and forgiveness in 175 years.
    Despite the request of the Rehabilitation Commission of A. Yakovlev in 2001 to review the case of the Vlasovites, the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of Russia refused to rehabilitate the traitors of the motherland.
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    2. Tatyana 15 January 2020 06: 02 New
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      Former SS legionnaires are perceived by the Latvian and Estonian governments as national heroes. And the investigations, which are now initiated by Russian investigative bodies, are called upon to reveal the true face of these “heroes”.

      Russia had to do this for a long time! In vain in Russia they pulled with these revelations.
      And now neo-fascist collaborators have already crossed the red line in their revival in the West and are reaping their fruits in Russia itself in the person of Russian gymnasium students and “knees” from Novy Urengoy!

    3. Basil50 15 January 2020 06: 13 New
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      You are right, there can be no forgiveness and oblivion to criminals.
      But that's just not quite true about the motivations of Nazi accomplices.
      In the USA, at one time it was noted as a curiosity that the blacks whom the planter began to allocate, and even more so when the black slave was allowed to become an executioner, at once became swaggering to other blacks and very helpful to the owner.
      All these * allies * of the Germans were like a Negro on a plantation where the white master handed a whip and allowed him to be an executioner.
      These are the heirs of Nazi criminals today about * ideals *. In fact, they deliberately went into the service for the sake of the possibility of being executioners.
      1. Proxima 15 January 2020 08: 40 New
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        Of course, it is not worth explaining Latvian or Estonian collaborationism. supposedly the tendency of these peoples to betrayal. It must be remembered that Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania became part of the USSR just before the start of the war. Highly a significant part of the population of the Baltic republics not only did not like Soviet power, but hated (from text) The author has a strange position! And can the high collaboration of the Baltic states be explained by their natural sadism and penchant for serving the new master?
        1. The leader of the Redskins 15 January 2020 09: 05 New
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          In general, I believe that the calculations are not correct at the root. So the author took the average component for the Soviet Union. Fairly low rate. But the Union included such republics where they did not see a living fascist — the same Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and the DR ... Maybe there could be traitors, but there was no opportunity to go over to the side of the enemy ... And the second nuance that callabarists are not only policemen and SS battalions. These are factory workers, factories, forced to feed their family remaining in the occupation. Which column?
          1. at84432384 15 January 2020 18: 56 New
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            Natives of these republics simply deserted from the Red Army and switched to the service of the Germans. These statistics are not advertised, but they are.
            1. Pavel57 16 January 2020 00: 59 New
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              Statistics for many peoples of the USSR and Russia will be very painful. And the issue of deportation will look different.
              1. Yehudi Menuhin 23 January 2020 08: 50 New
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                The issue of deportation will always look the same. There is no and cannot be collective responsibility. Responsibility for a crime is always individual.
                1. Pavel57 23 January 2020 09: 47 New
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                  The truth is that the betrayal of thousands of people individually cannot be investigated.
                  1. Yehudi Menuhin 27 January 2020 08: 18 New
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                    Why is it impossible? The repressive apparatus coped well
                    1. Pavel57 27 January 2020 09: 54 New
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                      The repressive apparatus spent how much time on one defendant? 5 minutes.
                      1. Yehudi Menuhin 2 February 2020 08: 52 New
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                        And how long does it take to denounce an obvious traitor?
                2. Mikhail Drabkin 2 February 2020 00: 23 New
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                  There is an indelible general, collective burden of the history of the people, including the crimes of traitors.
                  "..Yes, our people, XYZ, gave traitors ... punishers and murderers ...."
                  By this burden, each of us is free to judge the collective role ... including the years of the Second World War.
                  Be careful about "collective responsibility" without mentioning the indelible burden of history - this, like collective forgiveness, always leads to an audit of history ... Which is happening everywhere now.
        2. Olgovich 15 January 2020 10: 00 New
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          Quote: Proxima
          Of course, it is not worth explaining Latvian or Estonian collaborationism with the alleged tendency of these peoples to betray. Must rememberthat Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania became part of the USSR just before the start of the war. A very significant part of the population of the Baltic republics did not just not like Soviet power, but hated it (from the text)

          Strange position by the author!


          strange, yes: how can one remember that Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania became part of the USSR just before the start of the war and not remember that Courland, Estonia, Livonia hundreds of years included part of Russia?

          In WWI, they did not shoot at the back of the Russian army, and the same Latvians fought not against the Germans, but against them.

          The author’s passage is amazing:
          Given that until 1917, the leading role in the Baltic states was played by the Ostsee Germans the inhabitants of the Baltic republics remained a kind of reverence for Germany and the German people.

          What reverence? belay Latvians always hated Germans who hundreds of years kept them in slavery.

          They sided with Germany exactly in WWII
      2. trahterist 16 January 2020 21: 55 New
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        By the way, about swaggering niggaz ..
        laughing

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXGc-Y1PV7M
    4. Mar.Tirah 15 January 2020 06: 42 New
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      Quote: GKS 2111
      Nothing is forgotten, nobody is forgotten.

      What is most striking is that Soviet leaders, in particular Khrushchev, tried in every possible way to release the mass betrayal in the republics on the brakes. Here's the result, climbed up the poor as weeds on Russophobia-fertilized land. But most of the traitors were from Ukraine. And they shot the orphanage activists from Ukraine. The Germans did not want to kill the children themselves. There are recollections of former Wehrmacht soldiers and revelations of the savages themselves.
      1. Den717 15 January 2020 13: 36 New
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        Quote: Mar. Tira
        The Germans did not want to kill the children themselves. There are recollections of former Wehrmacht soldiers, and the revelations of the savages themselves.

        But with pleasure they did it when there were no traitors at hand. Collaborants have always been attracted to dirty business not because they themselves did not want to, but then to cover up the traitors with blood, after which they had no way back. In their memoirs, the former Wehrmacht soldiers, of course, did not want to show themselves as bloodthirsty ghouls. But wiretapping in the British camps of German prisoners of war says a little different. For example, that those who killed an unarmed civilian population, German soldiers already in captivity did not experience any remorse.
        1. Mar.Tirah 15 January 2020 14: 34 New
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          Quote: Den717
          did not experience any remorse.

          100% agree. German Nazism is the greatest crime of all time. They have been prepared for decades to exterminate peoples. And for this, all methods were good, including with the help of traitors to their peoples.
          1. Den717 15 January 2020 17: 37 New
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            Quote: Mar. Tira
            Nazism German is the greatest crime of all time.

            Yes. But Nazism German is not a spherical horse in a vacuum, but a branch of Anglo-Saxon racism, which, in turn, is the foundation of European philosophy, Eurocentrism. This phenomenon is still more alive than all living things. And it manifests itself in almost all areas of life through the so-called double standards. Anglo-Sax does not even consider all Europeans to be equal to himself, where are the Russians, and especially the Asians. And behaves accordingly.
      2. alexey alexeyev_2 31 January 2020 11: 28 New
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        Look at the statistics on Chechnya .. 80% of the recruits deserted .. And by the way, the Germans did not leave
    5. Aviator_ 15 January 2020 08: 22 New
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      It would be nice to consider the composition of the "commission for the rehabilitation of A. Yakovlev" and bring her to justice under the article on the rehabilitation of Nazism.
    6. cradle 16 January 2020 04: 17 New
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      identify all the coves and know by name. Crimes should not be impersonal.
    7. romanru4 18 January 2020 11: 44 New
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      Faq What timeliness is spoken of here? And what did you do before? These ghouls had to be hung before the 50th year !!!! "
    8. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 12: 51 New
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      What is the use of punishing those who are not alive. To give the opportunity to live at your pleasure, and now remember, spend money when there is not enough money for retirement to the same several hundred real veterans, and this is worse than betrayal. To erect monuments, build temples, organize concerts where they earn a lot of money, after leaving veterans who ended their days in miserable shacks, having several injuries, cripples and people with disabilities who were deprived of medical care, how many of them survived the Second World War, the blockade, and concentration camps, they simply died from starvation or no assistance while sharing power in the crazy 90s. Where you were patriots were bad, you had pensions under the USSR and paid them on time, gave rations, even the Timurovs went, served out of turn, and so on. What did they smell a loophole for money? Crazy gatherings at concerts, money laundering at monuments. Now also organize the prosecution and search for traitors, not dusty work, and most importantly the result is zero, but business trips and trips abroad abroad at the expense of the state. Kara must be timely, not posthumous. Some of them will be grateful, euthanasia is prohibited, and you will block their oxygen or turn off the artificial organs, relieving them of torment. Or do you propose to equip prisons with the best medical equipment that veterans never received during their lifetime?
  2. Vladimir_2U 15 January 2020 06: 08 New
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    Well, the Baltic states, a lot is clear with them, although already to western Ukraine, comparing with western Belarus, there are much more questions, not to mention Chechnya and the Crimean “Tatars,” that’s where loyalty did not smell during the War.
    1. romanru4 18 January 2020 11: 46 New
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      There are no questions to them since the beginning of the 50s. Tens of thousands of war crimes cases were buried in the archives, and the defendants remained at large by decision of the CPSU Central Committee and the Party leadership.
      1. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 12: 53 New
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        That’s that and that, then it was necessary to hang up, and not now to dig out the grave for identification. Now there would be much less problems.
  3. kiril1246 15 January 2020 06: 15 New
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    The irony is that Hitler's most outspoken allies became part of the USSR and became countries of popular democracy:
    Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Western Ukraine, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia.
    1. romanru4 18 January 2020 11: 47 New
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      Such was the WILL of the leadership of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
    2. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 12: 57 New
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      young man what are you talking about what kind of democracy. Democracy is America's business; we had socialism. And the USSR never entered Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, even tsarist Russia. It’s impossible, this is the history of your state.
  4. riwas 15 January 2020 06: 46 New
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    Interesting. And what was the index of collaboration in Poland?
    1. knn54 15 January 2020 12: 17 New
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      Percentage of traitors of total nationality / people:
      Latvians - 9,2,
      Estonians - 7,9,
      Kalmyks - 5,2,
      Lithuanians - 2,5,
      Azerbaijanis - 1,7,
      Georgians - 1,1,
      Armenians - 1,0,
      Belarusians - 0,8,
      Ukrainians - 0,7,
      Russians - 0,4.
      Ukraine and Belarus are WHOLE in the republic.
      1. Avior 15 January 2020 20: 28 New
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        many questions to the counting system
        it is clear that if the territory was not occupied, then the percentage of collaborationists will actually be reduced only to traitors from among those captured.
        but there are some nuances.
        Kalmyks, for example. After all, the Germans did not occupy the republic, but a high percentage is explained by the fact that the Germans considered the Kalmyks an Aryan race, and the attitude was appropriate.
        in Western Europe, many countries retained their own police, but they are not considered collaborative
        Such calculations are a complicated matter, there are too many nuances
        hi
        1. bairat 16 January 2020 10: 05 New
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          According to the memory of Kalmykia was occupied.
          1. Avior 16 January 2020 10: 15 New
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            So I was wrong with that.
            This explains such a high percentage.
            1. bairat 16 January 2020 20: 41 New
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              There is more likely there: they are nomads, but they were farmed, their livestock was taken away. So they took offense.
              1. Avior 16 January 2020 23: 27 New
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                and of course, you’re right, but the Germans really believed that the Kalmyks belong to the Aryan races, and in this regard, the division was sometimes very strange.
                Cossacks, for example, were also attributed to the Aryans.
      2. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 13: 04 New
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        where does this data come from? Ukraine, which formed the whole units of assistants, is almost equal to Belarus, which suffered primarily from punishers of Ukrainians and the Baltic states, Belarus, which organized a guerrilla movement where the Germans could not control entire regions. How could the Armenians have such a percentage, if the German did not enter Armenia and was close, as was Georgia. Please do not carry nonsense.
    2. romanru4 18 January 2020 11: 48 New
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      100% or close to this.
  5. midshipman 15 January 2020 07: 11 New
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    January 5, 1946 in Leningrad, on the square near the cinema "Giant" were executed 10 Nazi generals for atrocities against civilians. Look on the internet.
    1. romanru4 18 January 2020 11: 49 New
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      Not the Germans had to be executed, but their war criminals FIRST!
      1. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 13: 09 New
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        Ordinary Germans, ordinary prisoners of war, with their lives and work atoned for the guilt of their Nazis and others. And their fault was only that they did not desert and did not become traitors to their country. But the top and the henchmen lived for their pleasure.
  6. Alexander Trebuntsev 15 January 2020 07: 12 New
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    Quote: kiril1246
    The irony is that Hitler's most outspoken allies became part of the USSR and became countries of popular democracy:
    Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Western Ukraine, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia.

    Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria also became part of the USSR?
    1. kiril1246 18 January 2020 14: 07 New
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      Quote: Alexander Trebutsev
      Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria also became part of the USSR?

      typo instead of "and" should have been "or"
      "became part of the USSR OR became countries of people's democracy"

      However, all other readers understood this.
      1. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 13: 13 New
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        What are the countries of people's democracy, where do these phrases come from? There was a social camp, which was supported by some other countries, was the Warsaw Treaty (military bloc). And to bring democracy to America, it still exports it to all countries, watch TV.
        1. kiril1246 2 February 2020 16: 39 New
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          Quote: Stories Sergey Ivanovich
          What are the countries of people's democracy, where do these phrases come from?

          It was necessary in Soviet times to go to political information, and not to skip. Then now silly questions would not arise.
        2. Sergej1972 4 March 2020 17: 56 New
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          Before Khrushchev, such a term was officially used. Under Stalin they were called people's democratic countries, and under Khrushchev and Brezhnev socialist. This is a well-known fact. It was believed that there are two options for building socialism: Soviet and people's democratic.
  7. fuxila 15 January 2020 07: 28 New
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    But the paradox is this: in the Civil War, the Red Balts suppressed the uprisings of Russian workers and peasants who did not want to communize, and in the Second World War they again killed the Russians, but already because they were communists. As a result, we have the fact that they kill Russians simply because they are Russians, and everything else does not matter. If the Third World happens tomorrow, then again, jumping out of their pants, they will continue their favorite pastime and it is not difficult to find a justification, for example, bad Russians profess democracy incorrectly, and for this you can kill ...
    1. Vladimir_2U 15 January 2020 08: 42 New
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      Quote: fuxila
      during the Civil War, the Red Balts suppressed the uprisings of Russian workers and peasants
      What? Give examples!
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        1. Vladimir_2U 15 January 2020 16: 16 New
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          And where are the examples of crackdown
          Quote: Pushkar
          Russian workers and peasants

          ? I see from your link, except for a very general phrase
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          to suppress anti-Bolshevik uprisings in a number of cities
          just this:
          In the area of ​​the city of Rogachev, Mogilev province, a counter-revolutionary rebellion broke out of the 1st Polish Corps, Jozef Dovbor-Musnitsky. Units of the 1st Ust-Dvinsky and 4th Vidzeme Latvian rifle regiments participate in its suppression
          and also this
          Suppression of the Left Eser Revolt .... And. I. Wacetis in his article “The revolt of the Left Socialist Revolutionaries in July 1918” writes that the losses on the part of the riflemen were very serious, but the main goal was achieved - the rebellion failed, in Moscow the power remained in the hands of the Bolsheviks.
          Latvian shooters also took an active part in suppressing such uprisings in the following cities of Russia: in Petrograd, Kaluga, Vologda, Yaroslavl and other cities.
          Count the rebellions of the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries as
          Quote: Pushkar
          uprisings of Russian workers and peasants
          incorrectly to say the least.
          But on the same link I found something "cute":
          To combat looting, police functions in the rear since 1915 were assigned to Cossack units. But presidential decrees were preserved in which they asked the authorities because of the robberies and looting of the Cossacks themselves, to take away these police functions from them. Because of this, the commanders of the Latvian riflemen took orders to perform police functions in the territories under their control.
      2. fuxila 15 January 2020 17: 12 New
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        Discover the story of Latvian shooters written by Drizul and Krastyn in 1980 and find out that Latvian troops participated in the “elimination of conspiracies and rebellions” in many places in Russia. For example, such a message for 1918: “The riots in the Penza province swept many volosts and threatened to cut the railway linking the center with the Eastern Front. On August 5, a kulak rebellion organized by the Left Socialist Revolutionaries began in the village of Kuchki, which soon spread to 4 neighboring volosts. On August 12, Kuchki was put in order. ”
        In the suppression of uprisings in the Penza province, the so-called Penza Latvian battalion of sponge took part. As for Latvians in the Cheka, in 1919 of the 2 thousand employees of the central apparatus of the Cheka, 75% were Latvians. As the newsletter of the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries reported, “they go to Moscow from Latvia to the Cheka, as if they were to America, to live” and serve as “whole families”.
        The significant contribution of the Baltic states to the establishment of communist power has long been known. Here is an excerpt from the book of L. Punin, intended for the commander of the Army in 1931: “In the civil war, when the wave of the offensive of Denikin (1919) swept the whole south, reaching the Orel-Yelets-Tambov line, threatened Tula and Moscow The railways along which reserves were transferred to Bryansk helped a lot to save the situation (the strike group of the Latvian and Estonian units and the 45th division). ... Denikin’s army received a counterattack and, broken, surged back. "
        Of course, you can pretend to be a misunderstanding and pretend that you do not know anything about the atrocities of the Baltic SS officers and policemen in the Second World War, but this is a diagnosis.
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          Quote: fuxila
          As for Latvians in the Cheka, in 1919 of the 2 thousand employees of the central apparatus of the Cheka, 75% were Latvians.

          This is according to the passport, but in reality? For example, Mayakovsky everywhere wrote about his “Georgians” nationality. I do not think that Sverdlov and Trotsky would allow outsiders there ...
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            Not for managerial work, but as butchers, so as not to get dirty themselves, why not? For example, as such fighters for Soviet power as Comrade. Adamson, a lover of pre-execution rape, or an ugly Latvian named “Pug”, walking in short pants with two guns behind his belt — her “personal record” was 52 shot in one night. Well, and the other thousands of Latsis, Peters, etc.
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          Quote: fuxila
          where are examples of crackdown
          Quote: Pushkar
          Russian workers and peasants
          And I wonder where are the examples of the suppression of the uprisings of the Russian WORKERS and PEASANTS?
          Quote: fuxila
          written by Drizul and Krastyn in 1980 and you will learn that Latvian troops participated in the “liquidation of conspiracies and rebellions” in many places in Russia
          participated in the suppression anti-Soviet rebellions in Moscow, Yaroslavl, Nizhny Novgorod, Kaluga, Rybinsk, Vologda, Arkhangelsk, Murom and other places
          Quote: fuxila
          a kulak rebellion organized by the Left Socialist Revolutionaries in the village of Kuchki

          Quote: fuxila
          As the newsletter of the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries reported, "they go to Moscow from Latvia to the Cheka, as if to America, to survive" and serve as "whole families"

          Quote: fuxila
          Denikin’s army received a counterattack and, broken, surged back
          Oh yes, anti-Soviet, fists, Socialist-Revolutionaries and Denikinites are directly WORKERS and PEASANTS hereditary.

          Quote: fuxila
          Of course, you can pretend to be a misunderstanding and pretend that you don’t know anything about the atrocities of the Baltic SS officers and policemen in the Second World War, but this is a diagnosis
          Here it is not necessary to be rude, because it is a comparison of the red Latvian shooters with the SS men and police officers - that’s the diagnosis, you!
          ex-KGB officer Stanislav Drelingas, convicted in Lithuania for participating in the detention of the "forest brothers" commander
          .
          Henrikas Vaigauskas worked in the Soviet power structures since 1948
          Convicted by a Lithuanian court.
          Arnold Meri, the former secretary of the Central Committee of the Young Communist League of Estonia, was the first of all Estonians to be awarded the title Hero. He received this title for the defense of the headquarters of the corps near the city of Bottom of the Pskov Region on July 18, 1941. On that day, the Nazi units broke through the front of the city of Bottom. A group of fascists suddenly appeared at the headquarters of the corps, and panic began among the defenders. Taking command, Mary quickly extinguished the panic and organized the defense. During the battle, he was wounded four times, but continued to lead the defenders.
          Not convicted only in connection with death. So, comparing the red Latvian riflemen with the SS men and police officers, you support attempts to revise the results of World War II in favor of the Nazis, whether you understand it or not.
          1. fuxila 16 January 2020 09: 32 New
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            Oh yes, anti-Soviet, fists, Socialist-Revolutionaries and Denikinites are directly WORKERS and PEASANTS hereditary.

            You have a complete mess. Is an anti-Soviet, Socialist-Revolutionary or Denikinist something, some kind of class category? Moreover, the Social Revolutionaries did not oppose the Soviet regime. Why are these fists not your peasants? But Lenin, Trotsky, Dzerzhinsky and many others have your workers and peasants? You can find out where and when they plowed the land? In comparison with them, Denikin (the son of a serf given to recruits) was just a man from the common people.
            1. Vladimir_2U 16 January 2020 10: 01 New
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              Fell into one pile of Nazi accomplices and Latvian red shooters is not a mess, in your opinion. Why do not you compare Hitler with Stalin, just in a modern trend for people like you.
              Quote: fuxila
              Anti-Soviet, Socialist-Revolutionary or Denikinist is that, some kind of class category
              These are enemies of the Soviet government - there is such a classification.
              Quote: fuxila
              Moreover, the Social Revolutionaries did not oppose the Soviet regime
              Why, then, what were they opposing, along with fists? Already fists are such champions of the Soviet regime that there is nowhere to put samples.
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              But Lenin, Trotsky, Dzerzhinsky and many others have workers and peasants

              Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov was born in 1870 ... in a family ... Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov (1831-1886), - the son of a former serf of the village of Androsovo ... Nikolay Ulyanov (spelling option: Ulyanin), married to Anna Smirnova - daughter Astrakhan tradesman (according to the version ... M. S. Shaginyan, descended from the genus of baptized Kalmyks [6]) Royal blood V.I. Lenin, of course! Stalin of royal blood, Dybenko, Nogin, Glebov-Avilov, Skvortsov-Stepanov, what did not remember about them? The most peasant-working blood majority in the Soviet government in 1918
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              Why are you fists not peasants
              The peasants, why not, only their full name among the other peasants are the fists of the world-eaters, and their closest modern counterpart is Tsapki from Kushchevka.
              1. fuxila 16 January 2020 17: 46 New
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                Why do not you compare Hitler with Stalin, just in a modern trend for people like you.

                No need to lie, where did I compare Stalin with Hitler? And as for the Latvians, it makes no difference to me under what banners foreigners will kill my compatriots: under the red ones with stars or under the red ones with swastikas.
                These are enemies of the Soviet government - there is such a classification.

                And the enemy of owls. What is power? Right hand comrade Lenin Trotsky is he an enemy of Soviet power or not? You don’t have anyone there, so there were only enemies all around, they fought, they fought with them and, finally, the fruits sprouted - M. Gorbachev and E. Gaidar.
                Why, then, what were they opposing, along with fists?

                They advocated Soviet power without the Communists.
                Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov was born in 1870 ... in a family ... Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov (1831-1886), - the son of a former serf of the village of Androsovo ... Nikolay Ulyanov (spelling option: Ulyanin), married to Anna Smirnova - daughter Astrakhan tradesman (according to ... M. S. Shaginyan, descended from the baptized Kalmyks

                Yes, really ... he really was a Gusse Kastesian, because who does not know about it ...
                Peasants, why not, only their full name among the rest of the peasants - the fists of the world-eaters

                And the people who poisoned the Tambov peasants with chemical weapons were, of course, great humanists ...
                1. Vladimir_2U 17 January 2020 04: 04 New
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                  Quote: fuxila
                  No need to lie, where did I compare Stalin with Hitler
                  No need to lie to you
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Why do not you compare Hitler with Stalin, just in a modern trend for people like you
                  It’s written so for me, but you may just not have time to compare.
                  Quote: fuxila
                  Right hand comrade Lenin Trotsky he is an enemy of Soviet power or not
                  Of course, they just became him over time, since he became the enemy of Lenin and Stalin.
                  Quote: fuxila
                  And as for the Latvians, it makes no difference to me under what banners foreigners will kill my compatriots: under the red ones with stars or under the red ones with swastikas.
                  That's how strange, Soviet, well, well Russian, people crushed Nazi Germany with its hangers-on, but Latvians, bloody haters, could not crush, how many were there? How so, where is the logic? Or maybe the fact is that the red Latvians fought FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE? It seems to me that this was the case!
                  Quote: fuxila
                  Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov was born in 1870 ... in a family ... Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov (1831-1886), - the son of a former serf of the village of Androsovo ... Nikolay Ulyanov (spelling option: Ulyanin), married to Anna Smirnova - daughter Astrakhan tradesman (according to ... M. S. Shaginyan, descended from the baptized Kalmyks
                  Yes, really ... he really was a Gusse Kastesian, because who does not know about it ...
                  Yes, yes, the myth of the Jewish roots of Ulyanov-Lenin is very popular in Russophobic circles. Only laid out his lying on the shelves a hundred times.
                  It is difficult to admit that at the beginning of the 19th century, under Nicholas I, a Jew could have been a police doctor in St. Petersburg for seven years. It is already absolutely necessary to reject the idea that a Jew, even a baptized one, could at that time become the owner of serf souls (A. Blanc bought the Kokushkino estate in 1847 and was assigned to the nobility of the Kazan province). The marriage of the German Anna Anna Ivanovna Groshopf "from a" clearly wealthy and at that time very cultured family "is not very consistent with his Jewishness.

                  https://kotbayun1965.livejournal.com/254917.html
                  and from there, a very revealing phrase:
                  If you want to broaden your horizons, read the brochure "Lenin-Russians-Jews" (M., 1996, p. 22-24) and think at your leisure who could benefit from giving AD Blanc a Jew. Maybe the very Zionists, whom both you and I do not really like
                  So the origin of Lenin is almost the same as that of Denikin.

                  Quote: fuxila
                  And the people who poisoned Tambov peasants with chemical weapons were, of course, great humanists.
                  Yes, fighters for the future of Russia Tambov:
                  The situation changed dramatically with the end of the Soviet-Polish war and the defeat of the Russian army of Wrangel in the Crimea. This allowed the Bolsheviks to release additional forces of the Red Army against the rebels.
                  The country is fighting with the whites and the Poles, and the Tambov rebellion raised:
                  The political program of the uprising was built on a democratic basis under the slogans of the overthrow of the Bolshevik dictatorship, the convening of the Constituent Assembly, the restoration of political and economic freedoms
                  . It’s to them that the landowners are former and the officers are brilliant (they are also supporters of freedom, especially for the peasants), that the Poles probably applauded.
                  On February 12, 1921, on the basis of a decision of the People’s Commissariat of Food, the food deployment plan was stopped on the territory of the Tambov province, and in March 1921 the XNUMXth Congress of the RCP (B.) Decided to abolish the food deployment plan, instead of which a fixed food tax was introduced. An amnesty was declared for ordinary rebels (subject to the surrender of weapons and information about the whereabouts of the commanders). The measures taken were widely covered in the press and campaign materials.
                  The Soviet government sought to avoid casualties, but the rebels, unfortunately, understood only force, doesn’t remind Chechnya, don’t it? And only against the most stubborn, at the end of the suppression of the rebellion they used a chemical. facilities:
                  According to some studies, the chemical shells used by the Bolsheviks in May-June 1921 led to the deaths of not only the rebels, but also the civilian population. At the same time, the researcher A.S. Bobkov, confirming the facts of the use of chemical shells by the Soviet troops (he described three cases of the use of chemical charges in combat conditions), expressed doubts about the effectiveness of the use of chemical charges due to the complete lack of experience in their use by the Red Army and pointed out the lack of information about the victims as a result of their use
                  With very controversial results.
                  1. fuxila 18 January 2020 17: 03 New
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                    Yes, yes, the myth of the Jewish roots of Ulyanov-Lenin is very popular in Russophobic circles. Only laid out his lying on the shelves a hundred times.

                    By and large, I don’t care what is his origin, for me his contemptuous attitude towards the Russians is more important. And speaking of the research you have cited, here is a letter to Stalin dated December 19, 1932, written by Lenin’s sister Anna Ilyinichna: “It’s probably not a secret for you that a study about the origin of your grandfather showed that he came from a poor Jewish family, was the son of the Zhytomyr tradesman Moyshka Blanca.This fact, which was important for the scientific biography of Vladimir Il-cha, was considered inconvenient for disclosure at the time of the discovery of these documents, at the institute it was decided not to publish and generally keep it This fact is a secret.This fact, due to the respect that Vladimir Ilyich enjoys, can do a great job in the fight against anti-Semitism, and, in my opinion, can do no harm. And I think, apart from the scientific work on this material, now a popular newspaper article. This fact is an additional confirmation of the exceptional abilities of the Semitic tribe, which was always shared by Ilyich. " (RCCHIDNI. F. 13. Op. 1. D. 471. L. 1)
                    but Latvians, bloody haters, could not crush, how many were there? How so, where is the logic? Or maybe the fact is that the red Latvians fought FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE? It seems to me that this was the case!

                    In the Time of Troubles in Russia there were also impostors, including those sitting in the Kremlin, who relied on hired Poles, Lithuanians, and Ukrainians, and it does not follow from this that the Russian people were delighted with all this evil. In your opinion, the Russian people suffered this all 15 years because they loved them all very much? And before that, I had to get along with Tatar authorities for 300 years. That then, that in February 1917 the legitimate, universally recognized power collapsed, and therefore confusion and vacillation began, which was used by internal and external enemies. And what does the Russian people and their interests have to do with it if the internationalists seized power, for whom the Russians were only a bundle of firewood in the fire of the world revolution.
                    The country is fighting with the whites and the Poles, and the Tambov rebellion raised:

                    One would like to say: "And these people love us to chew snot about suppressing the" bloody tsarism "of the armed uprising on Presnya in Moscow!"
                    While the country was struggling with the Japanese, your spiritual brethren staged strikes at military factories, and then paralyzed the Trans-Siberian Railway. The same thing happened in WWI, and then these political Vlasovites, who did everything possible to defeat the Russian army, seizing power, began to destroy all those who were dissatisfied, considering it a right thing! But how, after all, there is a war going on, which means you sit quietly and do not complain, otherwise we will poison the gases!
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              Quote: fuxila
              You have a complete mess. Is an anti-Soviet, Socialist-Revolutionary or Denikinist something, some kind of class category?

              You understand what’s the matter, it was initially claimed that the Latvian arrows killed precisely the Russian workers and peasants - that is, on a national basis. In fact, nationality was not important to them: they killed not on a national, but on a political basis. Their goal was the opponents of the Bolsheviks, regardless of nationality.
              They fought with their own Latvians. And also with the Germans and Czechs.
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                Partly agree with you. Although there are also such recollections, for example, the red military specialist of the former General Snesarev about the commander of the Latvian riflemen Vatsetsis: “He has it simply, he is dressed in civilian clothes, fat, fat. The accent is more like a chukhnu. All around him are only Latvians ... he does not smell of Russian spirit ... He is ordinary to the extreme, his thoughts are rustic, reasonable, if you like, but nothing more. He speaks of the Russian people with poorly disguised contempt and repeats that he needs a stick ... In a word, a clever foreigner who climbed upstairs among the Russian cemetery ... ”
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                Quote: Alexey RA
                Their goal was the opponents of the Bolsheviks, regardless of nationality.
                They fought with their own Latvians. And also with the Germans and Czechs.

                Weighed, just did not kill, but fought! And I’m also interested in:
                That's how strange, Soviet, well, well Russian, people crushed Nazi Germany with its hangers-on, but Latvians, bloody haters, could not crush, how many were there? How so, where is the logic? Or maybe the fact is that the red Latvians fought FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE? It seems to me that this was the case!
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      the Balts are accustomed to living under the master, the stronger the master, the more accommodating the Baltic states. Germany loosened its grip, Russia pressed it, Russia weakened they went into confusion, in search of a master, Russia had to be picked up again.
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    My grandfathers until their death called the Baltic states fascists !!!! And my grandfather refused to go to a resort in Jurmala! He was given a ticket as a participant in the war! Incidentally, he fought in the Baltic states and liberated Koenigsberg .....
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      Quote: intuzazist
      My grandfathers until their death called the Baltic states fascists!

      it is yes or simply by the Germans, which then was one and the same concept.
  9. Boris55 15 January 2020 07: 45 New
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    Quote: I. Polonsky
    Where were more traitors during the Second World War?

    For what purpose is the question of traitors posed in this perspective?

    Does this question unite or disconnect us? In my opinion - disconnects. So whose interests do you represent?

    During the war, always and in all ethnic groups, there are those for whom the Homeland is above their "I" and there are those who put their "I" above the interests of the Homeland. Depending on this, some become heroes, while others become traitors. (Who are today's media nurturing?)

    The state is not only the "apparatus of minority violence against the majority", but also "system of people's survival, preservation of their culture and identity". Whatever is closer, everyone decides for himself.
    1. Rasskazov Sergey Ivanovich 2 February 2020 13: 22 New
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      I think for a start it would not hurt to establish a rigid framework Traitor, who is he? Collaborated with the Germans, how? If an aunt washed floors or was an interpreter, what would she feed her children, who is she? Or a waitress in a cafe? But what about the issue that the Red Army, retreating, simply abandoned its people on the territory of the enemy without means of subsistence?
  10. Vitaly Tsymbal 15 January 2020 07: 53 New
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    The biggest stupidity to look for traitors and collaborators after 75 years. This was done after the war and before the collapse of the USSR. Many were found convicted or destroyed. For many, a “quiet amnesty” was carried out. Why is it "quiet", but because it was considered not only those who were in the punitive or army services of the invaders. There were still a lot of people who worked for the Germans in the occupied territories as any waitresses, workers in factories, housing and communal services, etc. Immediately after the liberation of any settlement by the Soviet army, the state security authorities conducted checks of the entire population. The first liberated settlements "shook up with all proletarian hatred" in the traitors recorded everyone indiscriminately: if he worked for the Germans (no matter who - the traitor). But “living” under the enemy is not the same as fighting the enemy at the front. Therefore, already in 1943, the policy of the Soviet government regarding the inhabitants of the liberated territories changed. Those who were involved in the crimes of the Nazis became punished. I do not condone the traitors. Everything is much more complicated than just writing this or that person into traitors. But ... back to the article. Ask yourself the question: Why raise the topic today about WHERE there were most supporters of the Nazis? Why does not the author have a word about Spain and Italy (the number of collaborators is off the charts there). Therefore, for me personally, the answer is unequivocal - the author, in pursuit of "the spirit of the times and in the wake of Putin's statements," chased a fashionable topic. Stupid !!! It is stupid because the world has always been fragile, and you need to look not for enemies from a generation that has already sunk into history, but friends in the present generation. Take the same Baltic states. Why is it “fashionable” for us to write about those who fought on the side of the fascists, and not about those representatives of the Baltic states who smashed the fascists in the ranks of the Soviet army, heroes of the famous but forgotten? Why does my generation remember the Polish Army, created on the territory of the USSR and fought on a par with the Soviet, and the new generation (both Russians and Poles) - only heard about it. I repeat, it is necessary to write MORE about what unites us, and not about what makes us enemies ....
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      For us, Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians, who fought on the side of the USSR, are heroes, for them they are enemies. The official authorities of these countries protest salutes in honor of the liberation of these countries from the Nazis. So who are they? They carefully erased all Russian from the Baltic states. For sympathy for Russia, locals can have serious problems, this I'm not talking about the tourism sector, but about politics. This is not Kisilevism, but my friends tell me from there. Everyone fell silent, especially the older generation, who remembers how much the Union invested in them ...
      Therefore such a reaction
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        I know this situation today. I do not urge to write in "their territory", I want that in "our territory" they would not obliterate those who with our grandfathers smashed the Nazis shoulder to shoulder. And often remind everyone that on the side of the USSR, representatives of all peoples fought (and fought worthily). And it has become fashionable for us “on our and not on our territory” to have a showdown like who had more traitors, and not about which of the participants in the Second World War and 2-MV it is necessary to take an example for the new generation ... And to write honestly, without the "right and left deviations "!!!!!
    2. Pushkar 15 January 2020 14: 17 New
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      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      The biggest stupidity to look for traitors and collaborators after 75 years.

      Well yes. "Guys let's be friends". Yes, you don’t need to look for them either - go to Riga on March 16 to the Freedom Monument or to Kiev for Bandera’s birthday. And how the Poles fought with the Germans, this is my mother, who passed with battles from Stalingrad to Elba, she told me. The troops openly laughed at the snakes, there was even a saying - "the Polish army took Berlin, the Russian army slept at home." Quite "on par" with ours. And we are not inciting ethnic hatred, not Putin, not Kiselyov, but they.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal 15 January 2020 16: 38 New
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        Dear Sergey. 1. "Guys, let's live in peace" - yes, exactly. Better a bad world than a good war. 2. Those who took part in the 2nd MV are still alive, but for some reason the mummers are not decreasing ... To the question - why? - you yourself will answer in the same way as I do. Therefore, to look for traitors from among the mummers is a war of a different kind and of another time. 3. I know how the Poles fought together with the Soviet Army only from memoirs and archival documents - therefore I will not argue with you. 4. About ethnic hatred (strife = difference) - it has always existed and will exist, but ethnic hatred - appears thanks to politicians who have their own propaganda journalists. But ... this is not about ethnic hatred, it is about the "obsessive memory of traitors." I would love to read material about your heroic Mom, I would love to see her front-line photos, especially since my grandfather also went from Stalingrad to Berlin, and ended the war on Sakhalin. But unfortunately for modern bloggers-writers, writing about heroic people like your mother or my grandfather is not fashionable. Therefore, often (even very often) fascist posters look at us from the pages, and the sleek faces of the fascist executioners ... About which, if you put up a public photo, that photo is already on the hangers or in court at the time the verdict is announced. That's what I mean, not Putin and Kiselev !!!!!
        1. Pushkar 15 January 2020 23: 44 New
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          Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
          important Sergey. 1. "Guys, let's live in peace" - yes, exactly. Better a bad world than a good war.

          Dear Vitaly, I repeat, they want war, not us. It is they who are building up NATO forces at our borders, expanding their armies at times, releasing "documentary" films about how we commit aggression against their countries (although it was actually the other way around). Those for whom the heroes are all sorts of Hitler, Bandera, Shukhevych and Arais with cukurs are no less dangerous than their idols. We must remember the lessons of the last war and be guided by them in our political, economic and military field, and not look for a "bad world." You just need to remember that the basis of any war is robbery. And we must remember their faces, so that there was less “stake from the Urengoy” and keep the weapons ready. Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace - get ready for war.
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      All work on the identification of war criminals and the disclosure of war crimes in the occupied territories of Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states was curtailed back in the early 50s with the light hand of Nina Petrovna. Tens of thousands of cases were terminated and archived, and many were simply destroyed! No one was looking for ghouls.
      Now we have got, turned inside out, the gut of the Ukrainian people in all its glory. To hide his head in the sand and hide the cannibals and other non-humans for the sake of some kind of unity there was a real crime!
      After five post-war years, as a result of the titanic work of the bodies of internal affairs and state security, a terrifying picture of the cooperation between the "fraternal Ukrainian people" and the "fraternal Baltic peoples" with the occupation authorities was revealed. Well, these are still flowers. TENS THOUSAND war crimes were documented and systematic work was carried out to identify and capture the defendants in these cases! But all this was stopped at once "By the will of the PARTY and the GOVERNMENT."
      In 2019, a decision was made (timely) to resume work. CLOWNS !!!!!
  11. Foul skeptic 15 January 2020 08: 31 New
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    Recently, the director of the Historical Memory Foundation, Alexander Dyukov, presented a “collaboration intensity index,” thanks to which we can now get an idea of ​​where there were the most people who collaborated with the Nazis.

    Historians have sampled the estimated number of traitors for every 10 thousand people in countries whose territories were occupied by Germany in 1939-1945.

    if someone finds a methodology for this calculation and gives a tip, I will be very grateful.
    1. Pushkar 15 January 2020 14: 22 New
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      Quote: A vile skeptic
      if someone finds a methodology for this calculation and gives a tip, I will be very grateful.
      The calculation procedure is given in the article.
      1. Foul skeptic 15 January 2020 15: 30 New
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        If you about it
        Historians have sampled the estimated number of traitors for every 10 thousand people in countries whose territories were occupied by Germany in 1939-1945.

        then this is not a technique
  12. igorra 15 January 2020 08: 34 New
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    This is a reminder to us, we need to crush the enemies to the last scum, without any pity. And then another Khrushchev will come and release the remnants to freedom.
    1. balunn 15 January 2020 16: 57 New
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      So the question is to the former GBists. Why they did not finish this scum in the Baltic states. And why, after more than 70 years, she got out. And now he washed away to investigate their crimes. The culprits are all the same in the grave and they do not care. You just need to disclose all the facts. Declassify archives and put a big point on this. And for some reason we give out information in a very metered way.
      I agree that you need to look for ways to unite, and not poke one nation into another, so that you have more traitors and we have less. There was enough feces on both sides at that time. There was a redivision of the world and a redivision of borders. Dissatisfied and offended was full.
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      There Nina Petrovna commanded as she wanted.
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    The topic is not fully disclosed: traitors are not only animals from the team’s probes, it’s a lineman who betrayed (called the fascists) the division commissar Zuev (from the 2nd Shock), they are those who launched rockets during air raids on cities and industrial enterprises.
    It is necessary to disclose the topic in full, or indicate that this is only a small episode of everything that we call treason.
    1. Vitaly Tsymbal 15 January 2020 08: 47 New
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      The traitor should be forgotten, and not a constant and detailed mention of his name, even in a negative form. And then with such a "disclosure of the theme" the youth have the impression that almost all of those years were traitors !!!! If a person is always called a pig, in the end he grunts)))
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        If a person is always called a pig, in the end he grunts)))

        That's right, do not offend pigs. The Nazis, their lackeys and followers are not people or even pigs.
      2. romanru4 18 January 2020 12: 10 New
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        Every second Ukrainians of masculine gender and draft age remaining in the occupied territory could be taken and boldly hanged. These are not my words, but my grandfather said in hearts.
  14. Operator 15 January 2020 09: 16 New
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    The collaborative index in France was just off the charts - given the existence on 1/2 the territory of that country from 1940 to 1944 a whole collaboration state of Vichy.
    1. bober1982 15 January 2020 09: 44 New
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      The collaborative index in France just went wild

      Collaborationism was originally understood as the cooperation of the French with the Germans in World War II, and only then this term began to be applied to other countries.
      And the term itself is French.
  15. kalibr 15 January 2020 09: 40 New
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    “a very necessary and, most importantly, timely task. It is not necessary to think that if 75 years have passed since the defeat of Nazism, then you can forget everything”
    She was needed and timely 75 years ago. Now, the condemnation of the decrepit old senile old man will not play any special role. Psychologically not play. The train left! You can say beautiful words as much as you like, but it’s true. And young people don’t care at all.
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    2. romanru4 18 January 2020 12: 12 New
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      You are absolutely right. BUT!!!! It was the decision of the PARTY and the GOVERNMENT to curtail this work in the early 50s. No one was looking for ghouls.
  16. solzh 15 January 2020 09: 55 New
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    In the Soviet Union, the collaboration index was 142,8 per 10 thousand people

    Do white emigres of all nations also enter this figure or not? If whites of all stripes are not included in this figure, then, in my opinion, this is not the correct data. The basis for serving the invaders in the USSR was precisely traitors from among the whites and other dishonesty who escaped from popular anger in a civil war.
    1. Yeti Suvorov 15 January 2020 10: 59 New
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      hivi is actually too massive a phenomenon not to mention about him
    2. romanru4 18 January 2020 12: 13 New
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      Far from a fact. The bulk of the traitors and war criminals were citizens of the USSR, that is, Soviet people.
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      Quote: solzh
      Do white emigres of all nations also enter this figure or not?

      Definitely included. If you look, it will be almost a third if not more than all the coloborants were precisely white emigrants.
  17. Olgovich 15 January 2020 10: 06 New
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    completely different indicators of collaboration, generally not different from the average European. And this is due to the fact that, strictly speaking, there were "two of Ukraine." Eastern and Southern Ukraine, Donbass and Novorossia, they gave us wonderful heroes — the underground, the same “Young Guard”, millions of Soviet soldiers and officers, partisans who fought with honor against the Nazis. But in Western Ukraine, the situation with collaborationism

    There were no two Ukrainians: there was Russia, part of which was betrayed by the so-called ussr (this is New Russia) and was actually Ukraine, which the author called Western.

    Russia fought against Nazism. Same thing today.
    1. apro 15 January 2020 10: 30 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Russia fought against Nazism. Same thing today.

      White ... do not breed red ...
      Do not forget the Russian liberation army and the committee for the liberation of the peoples of Russia ...
      1. Boris55 15 January 2020 10: 43 New
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        Do not forget the Russian liberation army ...

        ROA, like Vlasov himself, unlike the “civilized” ones and aspiring to join them, we are condemned and reproached. By the way, what kind of flag do you have on your avatar? Something he reminds me of:

        1. apro 15 January 2020 10: 49 New
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          seeking to join them, we are condemned and reproached

          We have? More specifically .. in Russia or the USSR?
          1. Boris55 15 January 2020 10: 54 New
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            Quote: apro
            We have? More specifically .. in Russia or the USSR?

            And we also have traitors. Otherwise, there would be no perestroika destroying the USSR and not when the Vlasov flag did not become the flag of Russia, to which we must be respected today. But:

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              Bora, but still Russophobe, oh wei.
              1. Boris55 15 January 2020 11: 05 New
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                Quote: Operator
                Bora, but still Russophobe, oh wei.

                It makes no difference to me what nationality is a traitor.

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                  What nationality will you traitors of Russia be yourself?
                2. igordok 15 January 2020 17: 47 New
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                  The photos and videos you submitted have nothing to do with Vlasov. This parade was organized by the so-called The "ROA Guards Brigade", created by the SD, mainly from white emigrants, in Pskov on June 22, 1943. By that time, Vlasov had nothing to do with the "ROA Guards Brigade". In the future, the use of tricolor by the Germans was prohibited. The St. Andrew’s Cross was used in the ROA emblem.
                  It hurts me in the eye when I see the tricolor on May 9th. On May 9, the USSR flag or, in extreme cases, the victory flag (the assault flag of the 150th Order of Kutuzov II degree of the Idritsa Rifle Division, hoisted on May 1, 1945 at the Reichstag building in Berlin) should be developed on the country's flagpoles. But historically, it is not correct to call tricolor - Vlasov. White emigrant, but not Vlasov.
            2. apro 15 January 2020 11: 37 New
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              Quote: Boris55
              And we also have traitors.

              You did not answer the question..
            3. fuxila 15 January 2020 17: 53 New
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              You better study history. Vlasov has nothing to do with the tricolor, he was introduced under Peter, and as for Vlasov, since 1930, as a member of the All-Union Communist Party of the Bolsheviks, he has been spending much more time flying under the red flag. And why don’t you be confused by the fact that under the red flag they killed people in camps not only in Russia, but also in other parts of the world, take an interest in what the flag of the Polpot regime in Kampuchea looked like.
            4. romanru4 18 January 2020 12: 16 New
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              It is not true. The Vlasovites tried to make this flag their own, but Himler did not like it and he banned it. Vlasovites always performed under the Andreevsky flag! Well? Let's spit on the St. Andrew flag?
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          3. Pushkar 15 January 2020 14: 46 New
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            Quote: apro
            Quote: Boris55
            seeking to join them, we are condemned and reproached

            We have? More specifically .. in Russia or the USSR?

            We have Russia spelled with a capital letter
      2. Olgovich 15 January 2020 11: 07 New
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        Quote: apro
        White ... do not breed red ...

        belay request
        Quote: apro
        Do not forget the Russian liberation army

        Where is my "oblivion" of the ROA, which consisted of citizens of the USSR?

        WHAT is the link to my comment? Russia, including her New Russia, treacherously betrayed in the so-called ussrfought with the Nazis. Do not agree?! belay
        1. apro 15 January 2020 11: 34 New
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          Where is my "oblivion" of the ROA, which consisted of citizens of the USSR?

          They positioned themselves Russian. And the goals pursued by those that you are promoting.
          Quote: Olgovich
          Russia, including her New Russia, treacherously betrayed in the so-called Ussr-worthy fought with the Nazis.

          The USSR fought against Nazi Germany under the leadership of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and personally Comrade IVStalin.
          1. Olgovich 15 January 2020 12: 07 New
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            They positioned themselves Russian. And the goals pursued by those that you are promoting.

            1. They are CITIZENS of the USSR. Traitors. They fought against their homeland in alliance with the invaders.
            2. WHERE is my goal, the defeat of my country, liar ?! belay
            This is YOUR goal in WWI. Your treacherous RSDLP
            Quote: apro
            The USSR fought Nazi Germany. leadership VKP (b) and personally Comrade IVStalin.

            Learn USSR Constitution 1937led by SNK governmentno party there no. Stalin -Chairman Council of People's Commissars of the USSR.
            1. apro 15 January 2020 12: 18 New
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              Olgovich Roa is primarily Russian. And they fought against the Communists. And it makes them related to you. And you wanted the USSR to be defeated. It’s all through the comments. You read what you write. It's just that the USSR is not your country ....
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                Something badly believed in your patriotism, apro. Especially considering how you name my country constantly write:
                We have? More specifically .. in Russia or the USSR?

                Do not forget the Russian liberation army and the committee for the liberation of the peoples of Russia ..
              2. Olgovich 16 January 2020 08: 16 New
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                Quote: apro
                You wanted the defeat of the USSR

                Who assigned you the right to throw such accusations? belay
                What kind of judge are you?
                Nothing.

                So proceed from this and go to the discussion of ARTICLES, not commentators.
          2. romanru4 18 January 2020 12: 17 New
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            The leadership of the Communist Party curtailed its work to capture war criminals in the early 50s.
        2. balunn 15 January 2020 17: 09 New
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          Personally, I am opposed to considering Novorossia, Crimea and other parts of the former USSR (a single country) to be considered treacherously transferred. In those years, there was no idea in the minds of people that the Union could fall apart into separate states. There was a re-subordination of certain territories administratively. Betrayal happened when the Union collapsed, spitting on people's choice.
          1. Olgovich 16 January 2020 08: 13 New
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            Quote: balunn
            Personally, I am opposed to considering Novorossia, Crimea and other parts of the former USSR (a single country) to be considered treacherously transferred. In those years, there was no idea in the minds of people that the Union could fall apart into separate states. It was administrative reassignment of certain territories

            Administratively, they were in the country of the GOVERNMENT. Instead, the traitors of Russia, the Bolsheviks created the never-existent STATES: the so-called Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Turkmenistan, etc.

            If "it makes no difference, anyway," then why didn’t they leave Odessa, Crimea, Novorossia? in Russia?

            Why did they arrange the tragedy of the Russians there, forcing them with a mova, stupid UK history, etc.?

            Quote: balunn
            In those years, there was no idea in the minds of people that the Union could fall apart into separate states.

            He CONSISTED OF STATES. And only a complete stupid person does not think in advance about the possibility of changing their desires
          2. Alexey RA 16 January 2020 11: 27 New
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            Quote: balunn
            In those years, there was no idea in the minds of people that the Union could fall apart into separate states. There was a re-subordination of certain territories administratively.

            In fact, the Soviet Union even according to the Constitution consisted of sovereign states.
            Article 76. The Union Republic is a sovereign Soviet socialist state, which merged with other Soviet republics into the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
  18. Kamaz 15 January 2020 10: 43 New
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    And not a word about the Czechs, they worked more at the military factories than the Germans themselves. The author does not remember what the Hungarians staged in 1956?
  19. Alex013 15 January 2020 11: 32 New
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    If you already started to look by nationality .... Heroes of the Soviet Union of the Great Patriotic War.
    1. Russian - 8160,
    2. Ukrainians - 2089,
    3. Belarusians - 309,
    4. Tatars - 161,
    5. Jews - 108,
    6. Kazakhs - 96,
    7. Georgian - 91,
    8. Armenians - 90,
    9. Uzbekov - 69,
    10.Mordvin - 63,
    11. Chuvash - 44,
    12.Azerbaijanis - 43,
    13.Bashkir - 39,
    14.Osetin - 33,
    15. Representatives of the nationalities of Dagestan -24 (25),
    16. Mari - 18,
    17.Turkmen - 18,
    18.Litovtsev - 15,
    19.Tajikov - 15,
    20.Latyshey - 12,
    21.Kirghizov - 12,
    22.Komi - 10,
    23. Udmurtov - 10,
    24.Nemtsev - 9 (11),
    25. Estonians - 9,
    26. Karelov - 11,
    27.Buryat - 8,
    28.Kalmykov - 8,
    29. Kabardintsev - 5 (8),
    30. Grekov - 6 (9),
    31. Crimean Tatars -6 (7),
    32. Adygeys - 7,
    33. Chechens-5 (6),
    34. Chekhov-4 (6),
    35.French - 4,
    36.Abkhaztsev - 4,
    37. Cherkess - 2 (3),
    38. Yakutov - 3 (7),
    39.Moldavan - 2,
    40.Poles - 3,
    41. Tuvintsev - 1 (2),
    42. Karachay - 1 (2),
    43.Slovak - 1,
    44. Rusin - 1,
    45.Bask - 1,
    46. ​​Finns - 2,
    47. Evenk - 1,
    48.Gypsy - 1,
    49. Korean - 1,
    50.Balkar -1,
    51. Gagauz -1 (1),
    52. Kurd - 1,
    53.Svan - 1,
    54. Khakass - 2,
    55.Shorets - 1,
    56. Assyrians - 2,
    57. Vepsyanka - 1,
    58.Abazin - 1,
    59.Dunganin - 1,
    60. Turkish Meskhetian - 1,
    61.Bulgars - 1 (2),
    62. Teleut - 1,
    63.Kumandinets - 1,
    64.Karakalpak - 1,
    65. Uyghur - 1,
    66. Nanai - 1,
    67. Izhorets - 1,
    68. Altai-1.
    1. Olgovich 15 January 2020 12: 20 New
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      39.Moldavan - 2,

      In Moldavia 16 Heroes of the USSR.

      Of them 6-Russians, 6 Ukrainians
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      Moldavians-3, but their surnames are Pugarev, Bulgarian, Koval ....
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      Not Mordvin, but Mordovians, or Mordvinians.
  20. xomaNN 15 January 2020 11: 57 New
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    And tenacious "bastards", judging by the modern photo of two Latvian grandfathers am

    The NKVD at the time didn’t.
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      The leadership of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union has forbidden to finish.
  21. ZaharoFF 15 January 2020 14: 11 New
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    Recover p @ dly, climbed out. Nothing, not long to them.
  22. Radikal 15 January 2020 16: 44 New
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    Did the author knowingly miss Crimea and the Caucasus in his article? sad
  23. Anton Yu 15 January 2020 17: 05 New
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    We do not need to identify foreign traitors at all. But you need to know everything about your own, even the names of the descendants. Looking at what is happening here, namely, attempts to whitewash war criminals, questions arise. And where and what are the descendants of the Vlasovites and others doing now? But have they now made their way to the authorities? I would not consider it impossible.
  24. Anton Yu 15 January 2020 19: 33 New
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    Ostsee Germans are an interesting topic of history. Some of them back in 1918 sided with the Germans, then left for Germany and lived well there. And many were completely faithful to the oath and a modern warship was named in honor of one of them.
  25. Wlad37 15 January 2020 21: 12 New
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    Specially registered to write - Another propaganda vyser aimed at inciting and chauvinism, leading to an aggravation of the conflict between Russia and the West!
    1. bukhach 16 January 2020 05: 19 New
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      Don’t talk nonsense, where to exacerbate even more and where does chauvinism come in? You obviously see what you want to see.
  26. Miki noj 15 January 2020 21: 59 New
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    Traitors need to hang
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    There is no doubt that to find out the number of traitors, to establish their names, involvement in war crimes is very necessary and, most importantly, timely tasks

    The fascists must be fought by their own methods. A site like the Ukrainian Peacemaker would be useful here.
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      Time has already been greatly lost, thanks to the leadership of the USSR.
  28. AKS-U 15 January 2020 22: 34 New
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    The article is very complex, and without special knowledge (documents, archives) it is difficult to understand. A superficial discussion gives nothing.
    Vladimir-2U writes - “Well, the Baltic states, a lot is clear with them, although there are much more questions to western Ukraine, when comparing with western Belarus.”
    Why are there so many more questions? Western Ukraine and western Belarus entered the USSR in exactly the same way in 1939. Religion - Catholics, much closer to the Germans than we Orthodox. A special squad of the NKVD under the leadership of Medvedev, who fought on the shores of Horynia and Sluch, would hardly have survived without the support of the local population.
    So why should there be more questions to them.
  29. Alexey RA 16 January 2020 11: 19 New
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    Given that until 1917 the leading role in the Baltic was played by the Ostsee Germans, many of whom, however, honestly served the Russian Empire, the inhabitants of the Baltic republics remained a kind of reverence for Germany and the German people.

    More precisely, in front of a strong Germany. Because during the days of weak Germany (after Versailles), the Germans did not stand on ceremony with the Germans in the Baltic states either. The fate of the corps of von der Goltz is an example of this.
  30. seller trucks 16 January 2020 12: 44 New
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    In this whole story, the French “cheered”, the men surrendered France to the mercy of the enemy, and the women who were noticed in their relations with the Germans were therefore to blame for which they were shaved bald. Gentlemen, EPT.
  31. Yury Siritsky 16 January 2020 13: 08 New
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    These old people live their lives. It’s a pity that they weren’t put against the wall yet. And now it’s a miserable likeness of a man.
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    Nothing is said about the Chechens.
  33. Po-tzan 16 January 2020 19: 54 New
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    Where were more traitors during the Second World War?


    In the USSR, from the citizens of which were formed:

    Muravyov Battalion
    Combat Union of Russian Nationalists
    Brotherhood of Russian Truth
    Higher German school for Russian officers
    Division "Russland" (Division "Russia")
    Volunteer SS regiment "Varyag"
    Green Special Forces
    Cossack Stan
    Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia (CONR)
    Lokot Republic
    People's Socialist Party
    Labor Union of Russian Solidarists
    Zeppelin Organization
    Republic of Zueva
    RNA
    RONA
    ROA
    Russian Imperial Union-Order
    Russian civilian auxiliary police, Sevastopol
    Russian building
    Russian detachment of the 9th Wehrmacht Army
    Russian National Labor Party
    Russian fascist party
    Khivi
    Russian auxiliary police (schutzmannschaft)
    28th SS Walloon Grenadier Volunteer Division
    15-th Cossack Cavalry Corps SS
    The 1-th Russian national SS brigade "Druzhina", also known as the 1-th Russian national SS detachment
    29-I Grenadier Division of the SS (Russian Nr.1)
    30-I Grenadier Division of the SS (2-I Russian)
    Air Force KONR (Air Force ROA)
    1-I division ROA / VS KONR (600-infantry division of the Wehrmacht)
    2-I division ROA / VS CONR (650-I infantry division)
    600-I Russian division of the Wehrmacht
    602th East Battalion
    645-th Battalion
    ROND / RNSD
    Asano Brigade - Russian units of the Kwantung Army
    Guard of the Russian fascist party
    Corps of the Russian Monarchist Party
    Russians at the service of the Japanese and Manchu special services Manzhou-Guo
    Russen (Russia) - news and propaganda agency
    1. Alexey RA 17 January 2020 10: 17 New
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      What a long list ... if you do not know that many names from it refer to the same parts and formations in different years of service. The same 1st Infantry Division (ROA) was formed from the 29th Waffen-Grenadier Division of the SS "RONA" (1st Russian), which in turn was formed from the "assault brigade of the SS" RONA ", which was previously called the people's brigade of Kaminsky and formed which of the RON Lokotsky self-government.
    2. mikael 18 January 2020 16: 08 New
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      only most of the parts you mentioned that were supposedly formed from Russians are related only to some kind of abstract ethnic group, most of the people who served in these parts and subunits were white emigrants and have nothing to do with ethnic Russians, especially Cossacks before the revolution, generally referred to a separate ethnic group
  34. Andrzej k 16 January 2020 21: 14 New
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    I do not quite understand why the term "traitor" is used, for example, for Latvians or Estonians. Whom did they betray? Sure, they collaborated with Nazi Germany, but the name was chosen very poorly.

    This does not mean that I deny their crimes or approve of their support for Nazism. They did not betray their homeland - they fought for it, however, taking the side of the devil and becoming such.
  35. trahterist 16 January 2020 21: 41 New
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    Better late than never!
    And it makes no difference, the old pensioner (s) that Judas now, this should be a lesson to the current lasts of those 'heroes' that even the old, half-dead will be dragged by the scruff of the neck to the court, and, preferably, they will sit deservedly.
    Although a public loop would be preferable.
    And in the West, these 'war workers' are quite respected pence, however ...
  36. iouris 16 January 2020 22: 34 New
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    Even I did not understand: the author of the article, why did he post this graphic material and what is he promoting?
  37. mikael 18 January 2020 16: 03 New
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    Poles, Western Skaklus and Crimean Tatars, this is where the traitor sat on the traitor and drove the traitor
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    So it is necessary to stigmatize the Baltic states, Bandera and other trash without pity, citing the facts of their crimes, and not to hush up.
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    Traitors, including ethnic composition, should be considered law enforcement. And it is more useful for us, society, to know this list. know and proud.
    Heroes of the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War:
    1. Russian - 8160,
    2. Ukrainians - 2089,
    3. Belarusians - 309,
    4. Tatars - 161,
    5. Jews - 108,
    6. Kazakhs - 96,
    7. Georgian - 91,
    8. Armenians - 90,
    9. Uzbekov - 69,
    10.Mordvin - 63,
    11. Chuvash - 44,
    12.Azerbaijanis - 43,
    13.Bashkir - 39,
    14.Osetin - 33,
    15. Representatives of the nationalities of Dagestan -24 (25),
    16. Mari - 18,
    17.Turkmen - 18,
    18.Litovtsev - 15,
    19.Tajikov - 15,
    20.Latyshey - 12,
    21.Kirghizov - 12,
    22.Komi - 10,
    23. Udmurtov - 10,
    24.Nemtsev - 9 (11),
    25. Estonians - 9,
    26. Karelov - 11,
    27.Buryat - 8,
    28.Kalmykov - 8,
    29. Kabardintsev - 5 (8),
    30. Grekov - 6 (9),
    31. Crimean Tatars -6 (7),
    32. Adygeys - 7,
    33. Chechens-5 (6),
    34. Chekhov-4 (6),
    35.French - 4,
    36.Abkhaztsev - 4,
    37. Cherkess - 2 (3),
    38. Yakutov - 3 (7),
    39.Moldavan - 2,
    40.Poles - 3,
    41. Tuvintsev - 1 (2),
    42. Karachay - 1 (2),
    43.Slovak - 1,
    44. Rusin - 1,
    45.Bask - 1,
    46. ​​Finns - 2,
    47. Evenk - 1,
    48.Gypsy - 1,
    49. Korean - 1,
    50.Balkar -1,
    51. Gagauz -1 (1),
    52. Kurd - 1,
    53.Svan - 1,
    54. Khakass - 2,
    55.Shorets - 1,
    56. Assyrians - 2,
    57. Vepsyanka - 1,
    58.Abazin - 1,
    59.Dunganin - 1,
    60. Turkish Meskhetian - 1,
    61.Bulgars - 1 (2),
    62. Teleut - 1,
    63.Kumandinets - 1,
    64.Karakalpak - 1,
    65. Uyghur - 1,
    66. Nanai - 1,
    67. Izhorets - 1,
    68. Altai-1.
  40. Grossvater 22 January 2020 12: 01 New
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    Not quite correct indicator.
    I would put in the first place in importance for the Nazi EU or the Czech Republic or France. If we talk about what has affected our country to the maximum extent, then the Czechs have the most blood. I mean industrial production. Actually, and their “uprising” of May forty-fifth should be regarded as an extremely successful escape from responsibility. But they are all over the top in the blood of Soviet people.
    The British should remember France, one “Biscay Cross” which is worth. And the first, extremely important information about the famous and most important convoy "Pedestal" the Germans and Italians received from a French civilian airplane. And the French peasants greatly helped Wittmann.
    Bulgaria is also not entirely clear how to evaluate. It seems like she didn’t fight openly, but she pumped a lot of bugs to Germany.
    But the European outback, such as the Baltic states ... There is no industry, they don’t know how to work, the warriors are so-so.
    The executioners are good!
  41. Dmitry Igorevich 23 January 2020 10: 11 New
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    Now the governments of the Baltic states at the highest state level are engaged in the rehabilitation of their collaborators, not even embarrassed by the fact that Nazism is cruelly condemned in Germany itself.

    Nazism in Germany, the Germans, and the Baltic states and where? They are not Germans. They fought for the independence of their homeland against Bolshevism. And national liberation movements are welcomed all over the world. Even the USSR welcomed them, though not all, selectively. I did not welcome the movements of the Baltic states, but vice versa.
    When Russia ends the next form of socialism ("pseudo-capitalist"), it will also have new heroes. Not those that are now, with the next variety of socialism.
  42. Old warrior 25 January 2020 18: 59 New
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    For that, betrayal has unintentionally divorced: as if all the shit had risen at once ...
  43. vicyo 27 January 2020 22: 03 New
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    In other republics, except Kalmykia, with repressed peoples, can the data be voiced?
    Millions of Soviet prisoners of war somehow influenced the index? the attitude towards them after captivity was not much better than towards the Vlasovites ...
  44. nikvic46 7 February 2020 08: 03 New
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    Now, distorting the history of the Great Patriotic War and belittling the role of the USSR in the world war, all this is tantamount to betrayal.