Lech Walesa advised Poland to embark on a path of recognition of the truth about the liberation of Auschwitz

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Lech Walesa advised Poland to embark on a path of recognition of the truth about the liberation of Auschwitz

Poland needed to invite Russian leader V.V. Putin to events planned for the seventy-fifth anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp, Lech Walesa believes. Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.

About this Lech Walesa told the publication Onet. Polish ex-president is convinced that historical no one can change the truth. And if the Polish government intends to create its own “historical narrative”, then such an attempt must be considered frivolous, the current authorities of Walesa have gently criticized.



Continuing the critical line, Pan Walesa noted that A. Duda therefore remains speechless at a planned Holocaust remembrance event (Jerusalem) and therefore does not go there because he did not invite Russian President Putin.

Recall that events on the anniversary of the historical liberation of the concentration camp are planned in Poland on January twenty-seventh. Earlier, on the 22nd and 23rd, the seventy-fifth anniversary of the release of Auschwitz prisoners will be celebrated in the Yad Vashem complex (Jerusalem).

The media previously wrote that the Polish leader Duda refused to participate in commemorative events because of the alleged presence of V. Putin there. There is another version of Duda’s reluctance to go to Israel. It is believed that Dude does not like that among the organizers is I. Katz, the Israeli Foreign Minister, who in the past accused the Poles of anti-Semitism.

Relations between Warsaw and Moscow escalated after the unflattering characterization that V. Putin gave to the Polish ambassador Lipsky at the end of last year. In response, Prime Minister Moravecki accused the Soviet Union ... of having allied with what was then Berlin.
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  1. +28
    13 January 2020 09: 50
    Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.
    And who liberated Warsaw and Poland, having lost 600 Soviet soldiers killed. You would have at least once remembered the dead.
    1. +12
      13 January 2020 10: 09
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.
      And who liberated Warsaw and Poland, having lost 600 Soviet soldiers killed. You would have at least once remembered the dead.

      So they have already answered this question once - Auschwitz was liberated by the Ukrainians (1st Ukrainian Front), and here is Russia. The "killer" argument.
      1. +8
        13 January 2020 10: 11
        Quote: vvvjak
        Auschwitz was liberated by Ukrainians (1st Ukrainian Front), and here Russia.

        It's amazing that they forgot themselves mentioned.
        1. +14
          13 January 2020 10: 49
          Well, in this case, Lech Walesa deserves a plus. He clearly marked the merit of Russia, although he was never a friend of our country.
          1. +9
            13 January 2020 10: 59
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Clearly outlined the merit of Russia,

            He went to school and then received a normal education. Then the story was not rigged to please another bziku
            1. +6
              13 January 2020 12: 43
              But this statement of the ex-president falls under the Polish criminal article forbidding to tell the historical truth if it is to the benefit of Russia or to the detriment of Poland.
              1. +5
                13 January 2020 12: 47
                Quote: Shurik70
                But this statement of the ex-president falls under the Polish criminal article forbidding to tell the historical truth if it is to the benefit of Russia or to the detriment of Poland.

                So there is support. Apparently this Russophobia and "asshole" is pretty tired
                1. +3
                  13 January 2020 14: 58
                  I would like to hope so !!!
                2. +1
                  14 January 2020 01: 36
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  So there is support. Apparently this Russophobia and "asshole" is pretty tired

                  No, there are just normal Poles, they don’t like Russia, but they don’t deny who released them and saved them from Hitler. It so happened that I had to touch on some information: in 1946-49. the bulk of the Poles in the state security organs were from AK, they did not like Russians, but because of compulsion they worked together. At the same time, they always said - you will leave anyway, we will live our own way. Therefore, the reaction of Walesa should not be surprised, he is one of these. In principle, they were also normal, not Russophobia, their own politics, their own state. And who will like it when you on all questions how to live an instructor of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) gives an instruction?
          2. +4
            13 January 2020 11: 05
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Well, in this case, Lech Walesa deserves a plus. Clearly outlined the merit of Russia,

            These people still remember the good, and know the story firsthand.
            1. +4
              13 January 2020 12: 32
              But very soon
              These people still remember the good, and know the story firsthand.
              , these people will not remain and there will only be those who do not remember the good and history!
          3. +4
            13 January 2020 13: 27
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Well, in this case, Lech Walesa deserves a plus. He clearly marked the merit of Russia, although he was never a friend of our country.

            He is just from a different time and understands that the current screamers are crushed by arguments with documents in their hands. Then it will be a disgrace to Poland, but Walesa does not want it.
          4. +9
            13 January 2020 21: 23
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Well, in this case, Lech Walesa deserves a plus. He clearly marked the merit of Russia, although he was never a friend of our country.

            As soon as these politicians have the prefix "former", their brains are immediately enlightened, and they begin to reason appropriately Yes
      2. +4
        13 January 2020 13: 46
        Quote: vvvjak
        Auschwitz freed Ukrainians

        Tomorrow they will say that "Auschwitz" in general has freed itself, and Nazi Germany has defeated itself. Always amazed Polish films about the war, where about the Soviet troops, not a word at all. There always, the Poles win the war. Indeed, what has the Red Army to do with it. winked And Lech Walesa, in his old age, using his "authority of the main democrat" of Soviet times, can tell the truth, whatever it may be for the Poles. In general, I am amazed how you can speculate on this topic? There were Fascist Germany (which attacked) and the Soviet Union (which defended itself). The Soviet Union won. That's the whole topic in two lines. The rest of the "players" are in the form of various Romania, Poland and Bulgaria, on the sidelines of history. They should keep quiet, especially since some of them officially fought on the side of Germany.
        1. -2
          13 January 2020 20: 44
          Quote: orionvitt
          There were Fascist Germany (which attacked) and the Soviet Union (which defended itself). The Soviet Union won. That's the whole topic in two lines.

          Two fighters entered the ring, whose hand the referee raised, he won. In this case, the USSR.
      3. +3
        13 January 2020 15: 01
        Quote: vvvjak
        So they once answered this question - Ukrainians liberated Auschwitz

        The Institute of National Memory of Poland called the conditions for the restoration of the UPA memorials! Checkmate!
      4. +4
        13 January 2020 21: 20
        Following the logic, the personnel of Hitler's army groups "South Ukraine" and "North Ukraine" also consisted of purely Ukrainians.
        1. +4
          13 January 2020 21: 28
          And the SS division "Adolf Hitler" consisted only of Hitlers. There is no need to look for logic - just take it for granted, the Poles "don't lie".
      5. 0
        14 January 2020 08: 59
        And for me - Poland, like all of Europe, was liberated by the Soviet Union.
    2. +4
      13 January 2020 10: 58
      Quote: tihonmarine
      You would have at least once remembered the dead.

      Yes, for them there is NOTHING holy.
      How many times have they "dug up" and "buried" their president just to "prove" the nonsense that the Russian Federation blew up their plane # 1 near Smolensk
    3. +14
      13 January 2020 11: 03
      More than once I wrote that In our minds, after 45, we had to impose a strict tribute to all who reached out to Romanians, Hungarians, Czechoslovakians, Bulgarians, Poles, Germans, Finns, and others .. And instead, with another strain, we ourselves restored everything that was destroyed, at the same time carrying out an atomic project (similar in cost), and at the same time they were forced to support a large army so that the bourgeoisie were not tempted to finish off a devastated country .. In our country 46 there was an unreasonable hunger and this is in peacetime with an economy that millions of workers joined hands. All the screams about the oppression in the social camp under the wing of the USSR go through the woods, they did too softly with these cattle, which they paid to us in the near future, 54g, 68g, 80s. We had to rip them off like goat goats, and keep an army for these resources capable of suppressing any dissent in controlled territories, developing science, military-industrial complex, education, medicine, rebuilding everything destroyed .. BUT I repeat at the expense of all of the above .. then there would be respect and honor, and not the inglorious end of the USSR ..
      1. +3
        13 January 2020 11: 08
        Quote: max702
        And instead, with another strain, we ourselves restored everything that was destroyed

        I write all the time, "in vain", but the people do not understand.
      2. 0
        13 January 2020 11: 48
        Quote: max702
        I have already written more than once that In our minds, after 45 we had to impose a strict tribute to everyone we reached

        Correctly, only this was possible only under one condition, not to build socialism there, to take tribute from oneself as something not comme il faut. To leave there those governments that existed at the time of liberation, having placed their military bases and collected a tribute, and liberators were still considered as Americans with the British in France, Italy and other Europe. And so, they broke so many resources there, and in response - a knife in the back.
        1. +2
          13 January 2020 12: 03
          So I do not mind! They have not grown to socialism! We already contained 14 republics at the ballast, and here also these .. Only the intensified robbery of everything and everything allows us to gain respect from anyone .. An example of the Anglo-Saxons and 300 years of their hegemony perfectly confirms this ..
        2. 0
          13 January 2020 20: 48
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Leave there those governments that existed at the time of liberation

          Well, why then was they free. To lose 600 of our soldiers in Poland.
          1. +1
            13 January 2020 20: 56
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Well, why then was they free.

            So our grandfathers did not plow half of Europe for the sake of Poland, it was necessary to finish off the Nazi reptile in its lair, and the liberation of countries along the way is "production costs", although I agree that they were given to us at a high price. But even more so, they had nothing to break off a bit of our ruined economy.
            1. 0
              13 January 2020 20: 58
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              and the liberation of countries along the way is "production costs", although I agree that they were given to us at a high price.

              "Human blood is not water."
              1. 0
                13 January 2020 20: 58
                Quote: tihonmarine
                "Human blood is not water."

                I agree, but how else can I get to the Reichstag?
      3. +9
        13 January 2020 12: 36
        I understand that anger overwhelms, but if our fathers and grandfathers did this, they would not be liberators, they would not be Soviet ...
        And I'm proud that they didn’t!
        1. -1
          13 January 2020 13: 16
          Quote: Russobel
          I understand that anger overwhelms, but if our fathers and grandfathers did this, they would not be liberators, they would not be Soviet ...

          And what's the use of this? Where is the Soviet state? No .. And the reason is just that .. They were too Soviet .. They didn’t appreciate .. The pigs don’t need beads .. But only for this it was paid for with blood, tears, and then our people .. So it was wrong how they acted, history further proved it ..
          1. -1
            13 January 2020 20: 49
            Quote: max702
            So it was wrong how they acted, further history proved it.

            Well, at least someone supported me.
        2. +2
          13 January 2020 13: 34
          Quote: Russobel
          I understand that anger overwhelms, but if our fathers and grandfathers did this, they would not be liberators, they would not be Soviet ...
          And I'm proud that they didn’t!

          It’s not about grandfathers, but not grateful pigs .....
      4. +3
        13 January 2020 13: 33
        Quote: max702
        In 46 countries, we had an unreasonable famine

        And after the liberation of Poland in the 45th year, in the month of the USSR, it supplied 20 thousand tons of grain (of each type), vegetables, etc. + put seed fund + agricultural equipment. works. I saw the original documents. And at this time, in our villages, women plowed themselves .....
      5. 0
        14 January 2020 01: 40
        Quote: max702
        It was necessary to rip them off as goat goats, and on these resources to contain an army capable of suppressing any dissent in the controlled territories, to develop science, military-industrial complex, education, medicine, and rebuilding everything that was destroyed ..

        It is a pity that you were born late, and so would you instead of Stalin ... Oooo ... That would be ...
    4. +5
      13 January 2020 11: 12
      Quote: tihonmarine
      You would have at least once remembered the dead.

      I am sure that among ordinary Poles there are still people who remember the victims of the Soviet Union on Polish soil. But with such a policy, there will be less and less of them during the generation change.
    5. +7
      13 January 2020 11: 42
      Please note that outright liar, and in the wake of outright lies, became * a politician * and even * a leader of a nation * today turned out to be almost decent against the background of the Polish government.
      Is it not surprising?
    6. +4
      13 January 2020 12: 18
      Poland was liberated by 4 tankmen (three Poles), and a dog. True, on a tank made by damned Russians.
      1. +1
        13 January 2020 12: 24
        There were no three Poles .. there was an international crew .. the driver was generally Georgians ..
        1. +2
          13 January 2020 13: 37
          Quote: Dikson
          mekhvod general Georgians was ..

          So the Russians did not occupy Poland ... belay
      2. +2
        13 January 2020 12: 28
        Quote: Victor March 47
        Poland was liberated by 4 tankmen (three Poles), and a dog. True, on a tank made by damned Russians.

        Amendment smile
        "Three Poles Georgian and a Dog" laughing
        That's how we called this film when we watched it on TV "Neman"
        Well, about the brand of TV, I myself smile
    7. +3
      13 January 2020 13: 24
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.
      And who liberated Warsaw and Poland, having lost 600 Soviet soldiers killed. You would have at least once remembered the dead.

      As one Polish TV show participant put it on Russian television: "We didn't ask to be released!" The curtain!
    8. +1
      13 January 2020 20: 06
      And who liberated Warsaw and Poland,

      The Poles believe that "four tankmen and a dog" did it. Alone, by themselves.
  2. +4
    13 January 2020 09: 52
    Quote: Military Review * News
    Poland needed to invite Russian leader V.V. Putin to events planned for the seventy-fifth anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp, Lech Walesa believes. Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.

    Lech Walesa - former leader of Solidarity, shows his wisdom in his declining years ...
    1. +11
      13 January 2020 09: 54
      Quote: Mersi
      shows his wisdom in his declining years ...

      I never had respect for him ...
      Well, you ...
      Everyone is so smart and right. How to resign!
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 10: 07
        Dear Victor_B (Victor Petrovich)! I agree completely with you. I also did not cause and does not cause respect - Russophobe. But a fact is a fact.
        1. 0
          13 January 2020 23: 44
          Quote: Mersi
          Russophobe. But a fact is a fact.

          This does not cancel common sense. Even if Thatcher was still God's, but at the same time a great politician with whom you can speak on the case. And look at the current fool
      2. +3
        13 January 2020 10: 12
        Probably he wants to leave this world soon, that’s his sins beats)
      3. +3
        13 January 2020 10: 19
        Well, that was the position of a politician, but here a person .. confirms once again - politics is a dirty business and a person on TV is far from a fact that he says what he thinks ...
        1. -3
          13 January 2020 10: 22
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          Well, that was the position of a politician, but here a person ..

          A politician is not a man and never becomes a man ... IMHO.
          Is Churchill a man? One of the greatest politicians of the twentieth century.
          A world-class politician can be dumb (Bush Junior) if he is simply the president of the United States.
          And it can be a brilliant political leader or head of state (for example, any African to choose from, or Poland itself), but never become a politician respected / hated by the whole world.
          One of the 100 knows the same Valensu in the states.
          1. 0
            14 January 2020 12: 15
            at the expense of Churchill, I would argue that I did great? I nearly pissed off the war?
      4. 0
        13 January 2020 13: 38
        Quote: Victor_B
        Everyone is so smart and right. How to resign!

        So in retirement they are not required to work out master dollars ....
    2. +1
      13 January 2020 10: 12
      Quote: Mersi
      Lech Walesa - former leader of Solidarity, shows his wisdom in his declining years.

      In old age, we all get smarter, forgetting what we did in our youth.
  3. +4
    13 January 2020 09: 55
    Polish ex-president is convinced that nobody can change the historical truth.

    So then it is so ... Who would argue.
    The only thing that annoys us is that we DO NOT know the whole truth on many issues .... And the interpretations of history, depending on the political situation, often radically change their attitude to the question .... the crimes of Bandera were hushed up, they were silent about the genocide of Jews in Poland, no one spoke of genocide in Estonia itself .... Well, the equalization in the unleashing of World War II Germany and the USSR became the apotheosis of this silence.
    What else can "emerge"?
    1. +2
      13 January 2020 10: 14
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      What else can "emerge"?

      What the "inflamed brain" thinks.
    2. +3
      13 January 2020 11: 31
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      What else can "emerge"?

      The next step is the rehabilitation of fascism / Nazism. This is their brainchild. Remember that Dmitry Bykov said: "Hitler would have achieved some popularity in Russia if the extermination of the Jews had not been his main task ... Hitlerism was defeated in Russia largely thanks to Soviet internationalism." These ideas soar inside Europe, to which the Russian liberda is connected like a matrix. The extermination of Soviet citizens, Russians and Slavic peoples in general, is no longer even considered by them as a crime. They ran into the Holocaust. But over time, this obstacle will also be removed. Already removed in the Baltics and Ukraine.
      1. -7
        13 January 2020 11: 55
        Quote: Abbot
        The next step is the rehabilitation of fascism / Nazism.

        You do not know what you are writing about.
        Nazism is a regime condemned in Nuremberg.
        Fascism (or rather even Bonapartism) is the first phase of capitalist society. ALL countries pass through this phase, the society in which passes from the feudal system to the bourgeois one. The result of the revolution, of course.
        Quote: Abbot
        Hitlerism was defeated in Russia largely thanks to Soviet internationalism "

        Brad.
        The USSR was among the winners in WW2 only because on September 24.09.1941, XNUMX, it scuttled under the roof of the Anglo-Saxons. True, for this they demanded very great sacrifices from the USSR.
        1. +4
          13 January 2020 12: 06
          Quote: fghy
          Fascism (more precisely, even Bonapartism),

          Oh jerked laughing
          Fascism (Italian: fascismo, from fascio - union, bundle, bundle, association) is a generalized name for extreme right [1] political movements and ideologies that preach a dictatorial form of government [2] [3], the characteristic features of which are called militaristic nationalism (in broad understanding) [4] [5], anti-liberalism [6], xenophobia, revanchism and chauvinism, leaderism, anti-communism, contempt for elective democracy and liberalism, faith in the rule of elites and the natural social hierarchy [7], statism and, in some cases , syndicalism, racism [8] [9] [10] and the politics of genocide

          Where does "Bonopartism smell" here?
          Can you still learn to think without "cidulka"?
          Bonapartism is a term originally used to refer to the regimes of Napoleon Bonaparte and Louis Bonaparte. Further, the term was used to describe any counter-revolutionary dictatorship of the big bourgeoisie, maneuvering between struggling classes in conditions of unstable social equilibrium

          The result of the revolution, of course.

          We see which laughing
          Ruined everything that they had and licked asses to all who could

          The USSR was among the winners in WW2 only because

          He freed almost the entire geyropu and took Berlin.
          True, for this they demanded very great sacrifices from the USSR.

          What did you smoke yesterday?
          Who demanded victims from whom?
          Well, I understand Russophobia, hatred of the USSR, but it’s necessary to rave at least not so clearly ...
          Who and how demanded "sacrifice" ????
        2. +2
          13 January 2020 12: 24
          Quote: fghy
          You do not know what you are writing about.
          Are you sure you know?
          Quote: fghy
          Fascism (or rather even Bonapartism) is the first phase of capitalist society. ALL countries pass through this phase, the society in which passes from the feudal system to the bourgeois one. The result of the revolution, of course.
          So, the phase of the transition from the feudal system to the bourgeois? Well, what can I say ... Deep knowledge, courage of judgments and the results of many years of reflection are noticeable. True, from the side it looks more like a clinic, I'm sorry.
          Quote: fghy
          The USSR was among the winners in WW2 only because on September 24.09.1941, XNUMX, it scuttled under the roof of the Anglo-Saxons.
          Thank you, I understand you, all the best.
    3. +1
      13 January 2020 13: 40
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      Polish ex-president is convinced that nobody can change the historical truth.

      So then it is so ... Who would argue.
      The only thing that annoys us is that we DO NOT know the whole truth on many issues .... And the interpretations of history, depending on the political situation, often radically change their attitude to the question .... the crimes of Bandera were hushed up, they were silent about the genocide of Jews in Poland, no one spoke of genocide in Estonia itself .... Well, the equalization in the unleashing of World War II Germany and the USSR became the apotheosis of this silence.
      What else can "emerge"?

      Political expediency is called.
    4. 0
      14 January 2020 12: 17
      Someone does not know, someone knows or guesses. Most of the "ignorant" just skipped school, so they don't know, but normal people do.
  4. +3
    13 January 2020 09: 57
    Polish ex-president is convinced that nobody can change the historical truth.

    His words would be VERY MUCH in my ears !!! Tried, are trying and will try to distort history for the sake of ... many.
    1. +1
      13 January 2020 13: 52
      Quote: rocket757
      Polish ex-president is convinced that nobody can change the historical truth.

      His words would be VERY MUCH in my ears !!! Tried, are trying and will try to distort history for the sake of ... many.

      Nobody canceled the "Overton window", and it works!
      Here, having dinner, I watched a TV show where the issue was discussed with're coming out - "Boeing". They began to discuss the issue of recognizing Ukraine's destruction of the aircraft over the Black Sea and over the Donbass. So the American participant shouted hysterically that "it was Russia that shot down a Boeing over Donbass," and when asked about the evidence, he yelled "everyone knows that!"
      1. +2
        13 January 2020 14: 09
        Quote: major147
        he yelled "everyone knows that!"

        Proof of all evidence. Now you can.
        1. +1
          13 January 2020 14: 19
          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: major147
          he yelled "everyone knows that!"

          Proof of all evidence. Now you can.

          This is from the series, if a person is called a pig 1000 times, then he must grunt! By their logic.
          1. +1
            13 January 2020 14: 23
            Quote: major147
            This is from the series, if a person is called a pig 1000 times, then he must grunt! By their logic.

            Now such a pace of life, such a pace of issuing information, you don’t have time to look back, but you’ve already managed to call me already!
            In this thread, look for the truth .... torment!
            1. +1
              13 January 2020 14: 24
              Quote: rocket757
              In this thread, look for the truth .... torment!

              good hi
  5. 0
    13 January 2020 10: 26
    Quote: vvvjak
    So they already answered this question once - Auschwitz was liberated by Ukrainians (1st Ukrainian Front), and here Russia.

    Yes 1 The Ukrainian front did not beat as part of the Red Army. He led a parallel war against Germany and the USSR.
    1. +2
      13 January 2020 11: 09
      not parallel, but perpendicular lol
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 12: 17
        Quote: novel xnumx
        not parallel, but perpendicular

        Diagonal parabola laughing
        Hi hi
        1. +2
          13 January 2020 12: 24
          big ones! hi asymptotically ..
          1. 0
            13 January 2020 12: 29
            Quote: novel xnumx
            big ones! hi asymptotically ..

            In the time portal laughing
            1. +2
              13 January 2020 12: 43
              and space ..
              1. 0
                13 January 2020 12: 51
                Quote: novel xnumx
                and space ..

                With the opening of the teleport in ward number 6
                1. +2
                  13 January 2020 12: 52
                  on the territory there are active
                  1. 0
                    13 January 2020 12: 55
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    on the territory there are active

                    With a branch in pshekia.
                    And the orderlies there tribalt
    2. 0
      13 January 2020 11: 14
      Quote: Kostadinov
      He led a parallel war against Germany and the USSR.

      belay Where did he lead her? belay
      Place indicate. In which territory?
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 20: 12
        Ask Psaki. She is a major specialist in history and geography.
  6. Eug
    0
    13 January 2020 10: 29
    Walesa, unlike the current Polish rulers, is a real person. Yes, and I’m sure that he is not enthusiastic about the current path of development and saw it somewhat differently, like most Poles.
    1. +1
      13 January 2020 10: 41
      Quote: Eug
      Walesa, unlike the current Polish rulers, is a real person.

      And they all turn into real ones when they become with the prefix ex wink
      “The point of view depends on the seat.” (C) Lech Walesa, ex-president of Poland
    2. 0
      13 January 2020 11: 52
      And who started this path? It was Walesa who was the grave digger of the Polish People’s Republic, it was he who chose the succession not of the NDP, but of the pre-war Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, he became the successor of the government in exile in the person of Kachorovsky in 1989-90. Now he sets out wise things and uses poop, aha.
  7. 0
    13 January 2020 10: 39
    Why, in the West only used people are telling the truth, and those in power totally lie? ??
    1. 0
      13 January 2020 11: 00
      And who will vote for them then? All these protesters then become wiser and then 5 point ..
  8. 0
    13 January 2020 10: 46
    Poland missed a good moment for Putin's visit to it to resolve many bilateral issues. And it is still unknown whether such a possibility will fall out in the next 10 years.
  9. 0
    13 January 2020 10: 50
    Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.
    And Warsaw, and Prague, and Vienna, etc. Walesa in his declining years finally began to think soberly. But for the pompous Polish establishment bloated with "greatness" and choking on Russophobia, this will not work. Polish politicians need to be systematically poked at their own shit, so that then for several days they would think about how and what to answer the historical truth.
    1. 0
      13 January 2020 11: 34
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In his declining years, Walesa finally began to think soberly.

      And he always thought soberly and Russophobia never suffered
  10. 0
    13 January 2020 10: 54
    Didn't expect from Walesa. Hopefully this is not a political "step forward with three in the future back"
  11. 0
    13 January 2020 11: 09
    Better let the Poles fly to Russia. We will send Superjet for the wicked ones, and we will drive over the Smolensk forest. Experience is already there.
  12. 0
    13 January 2020 11: 47
    I do not believe the Poles - the first Russo-haters since Susanin.
    They are painfully proud, not objective and vindictive. Walesa's "enlightenment" is another internal political showdown with Duda.
  13. +1
    13 January 2020 11: 57
    I would like to know how the Israeli comrades reacted to Putin’s speech about Polish after.
    1. +2
      13 January 2020 12: 24
      Quote: Chief Engineer
      I would like to know how the Israeli comrades reacted to Putin’s speech about Polish after.

      All right.
      GDP will appear there, but the "offended" was not given the floor there
      Therefore, he made a "gesture", refused the trip
  14. +1
    13 January 2020 12: 19
    Quote: Mersi
    Quote: Military Review * News
    Poland needed to invite Russian leader V.V. Putin to events planned for the seventy-fifth anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp, Lech Walesa believes. Poland should have indicated that the concentration camp was liberated by the soldiers of the Red Army.

    Lech Walesa - former leader of Solidarity, shows his wisdom in his declining years ...

    FORMER politicians are free to judge. Actors are chained to the chains of political coercion. They would have revered the fact that this electrician was grinding as the President of Poland.
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    13 January 2020 12: 21
    laughing With the prefix EX-opens the chakra and the third eye wassat
    1. 0
      13 January 2020 12: 27
      something according to Dmitry Anatolich is not very noticeable ...
  16. 0
    13 January 2020 12: 36
    The truth is said that conscience begins to torment people in old age, that even inveterate villains begin to do good deeds ...
  17. 0
    13 January 2020 13: 05
    Putin needs to make such a speech so that every word is a nail in the coffin of Polish treachery.
  18. 0
    13 January 2020 13: 12
    Instead of a conflict with Europe, Russia should conflict with China, said Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Moravecki on January 11 in an interview with Die Welt.

    The behavior of Russia, in which it cooperates with China, was called by the Polish Prime Minister a "strategic mistake."

    “Russia makes a strategic mistake, considering Europe an enemy. China has long been a real threat to Moscow. Together with European countries, Russia can oppose Beijing. However, Putin refuses to cooperate with us, ”Moravecki said. About how laughing
  19. 0
    13 January 2020 13: 19
    By "changing" history, Poland points out to us that after the disappearance of the USSR, the destruction of the state - the legal successor of the USSR will take place in the future.
  20. +1
    13 January 2020 14: 42
    It even dawned on Loch that the Poles screwed up a lot of fun.
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      13 January 2020 19: 15
      Quote: NF68
      It even dawned on Loch that the Poles screwed up a lot of fun.

      Isn’t this all Putin gave them? There are such archives there, mom do not grieve for the Poles. Here we all wait, that they will come to their senses and quiet down
  21. +2
    13 January 2020 16: 45
    Gorbachev-Judah thought that he was giving power to such Valens, and he gave it to the Dudas. And Turchinov.
  22. +1
    13 January 2020 17: 02
    In vain the Poles took a frenzied position of Russophobia .. We have endured for a long time in Russia, but I look in the media and the archives about the Poles went, what happened in the Second World War and after .. Jewish pogroms, sabotage, etc. A lot of interesting things there ..
    No matter how much they don’t lose territory donated to them by the USSR
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    13 January 2020 22: 00
    Quote: Dikson
    There were no three Poles .. there was an international crew .. the driver was generally Georgians ..

    I remember about the Georgian. Remind me who was in addition to the Poles.
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    13 January 2020 22: 04
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Instead of a conflict with Europe, Russia should conflict with China, said Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Moravecki on January 11 in an interview with Die Welt.

    The behavior of Russia, in which it cooperates with China, was called by the Polish Prime Minister a "strategic mistake."

    “Russia makes a strategic mistake, considering Europe an enemy. China has long been a real threat to Moscow. Together with European countries, Russia can oppose Beijing. However, Putin refuses to cooperate with us, ”Moravecki said. About how laughing

    INCREDIBLY RELIABLE ALLIES IN THE WAR WITH CHINA. I wonder how they are going to reach a common enemy? Through the territory of Russia, or do they have any other ways and allies willing to let these flying white-winged hussars through their fields and cities?
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    13 January 2020 22: 09
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Instead of a conflict with Europe, Russia should conflict with China, said Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Moravecki on January 11 in an interview with Die Welt.

    The behavior of Russia, in which it cooperates with China, was called by the Polish Prime Minister a "strategic mistake."

    “Russia makes a strategic mistake, considering Europe an enemy. China has long been a real threat to Moscow. Together with European countries, Russia can oppose Beijing. However, Putin refuses to cooperate with us, ”Moravecki said. About how laughing

    And who cooperates with gas pipelines? Are not the main ones in this alliance between Russia and Germany? And not only now, but also in past times.
  26. 0
    13 January 2020 23: 26
    Zayibali their lohokostom.
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      14 January 2020 01: 07
      And did you like it or so? )))
  27. 0
    14 January 2020 16: 35
    Lech Walesa, from the consciousness of the security of his country, warns his elite that the distortion of History is fraught with physical non-existence for Poland ...