Cartridge factory in Belarus: in which "European country" RB has arranged the supply of ammunition


The other day, Alexei Skraga, General Director of BSVT - New Technologies LLC, a subsidiary of the state concern Belspetsvneshnekhnika, announced that the country has not only launched a full-fledged ammunition production process for small arms weapons, but export of these has already been organized! At the same time, this head stubbornly does not want to name the country of the customer, which gives rise to some suspicions. However, there are even more of them if you start to understand this issue in more detail.


According to Mr. Skragi, the cartridge production in the country was actually created on the personal instructions of President Lukashenko. Alexander Grigoryevich suddenly became preoccupied with a potential problem: what will happen, “if suddenly tomorrow there are no cartridges left in the country, and nobody wants to sell them”? And, as usual, he immediately ordered the issue to be resolved.

From now on, “BSVT - New Technologies” has a workshop equipped with “the most modern” machines capable of stamping from 2 and a half to 3 and a half thousand rounds per hour. It would seem - quite a reasonable and balanced decision. A self-respecting state should really strive for maximum independence in the production of at least basic military products. On the other hand...

The experience of how the army may well be without cartridges gives us Ukraine. There, just our own production of the corresponding profile existed - but it was only located in Lugansk, and after the outbreak of civil war in the country, it appeared on the territory of the Lugansk People's Republic. Again, there would be no problems with the ammunition for the Armed Forces armed with the rifleman, if relations with Russia were not spoiled by the post-Maydan Kiev. And immediately and tightly.

Returning to the topic of the Republic of Belarus, it is worth mentioning an extremely important detail: according to the same Scraghi, his company buys all the necessary components for the manufacture of ammunition exclusively “in Russia from world-famous manufacturers”. So why not buy ready-made cartridges?

The key to the answer is again given to us by the revelations of the general director of BSVT. On the one hand, according to him, the main objective of the project was “to satisfy the needs of the national armed forces”, and only then “to supply some of the ammunition for export”. However, he immediately declares: the first cartridges of caliber 7,62x54, 7,62x39 and 9x19 produced in Belarus "were exported and have already been delivered to the customer!" Allegedly - to a certain "European country", which has already received the first consignment of ammunition, "was satisfied" and made new "long-term orders." Moreover, literally "for years to come", according to Scraeg.

Well, we know these "Europeans" with the Kalashnikovs and Makarovs ... Even if you kill, in Europe, long ago converted to NATO standards, it is difficult to find Soviet-style ammunition for small arms for years to come.

But Ukraine needs them just like air! All attempts to establish their own cartridge production there crashed into general theft and bribery. The last attempt in this direction was made, I remember, by the Deputy Minister of Economic Development and Trade “unshackled” Yuri Brovchenko, who vowed that by the end of 2019 the production of cartridges for machine guns and rifles with a caliber of 5,45 mm and 7,62 mm would be launched there. But here's a bad luck - on October 22 last year, this figure was handcuffed right at the Boryspil airport. Brovchenko, deciding not to exchange for such trifles as cartridges, waved a contract for the purchase of equipment for the production of artillery shells in Ukraine, as a result of which more than 8 million dollars from the state budget "disappeared" in an unknown direction, and the promised production line never appeared. However, after making a rather big deposit from the pre-trial detention center in the same unknown direction, Brovchenko himself disappeared ... Ukraine has to buy cartridges abroad.

Today it’s no secret that most of the fuel for the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Novosibirsk State University, including those located in the Donbass, has been supplied from Belarus in recent years. If the “nezalezhnoy” warrior can be equipped with diesel and gasoline made from Belarus from Russian oil, why not provide them with ammunition made at the local cartridge factory from Russian components? Money, as you know, does not smell, but the “tax maneuver” somehow still needs to be compensated!
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  1. bessmertniy 13 January 2020 10: 41 New
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    Well, for Belarusian cartridges of buyers in the world market, perhaps, enough. Perhaps the power can even be expanded. Ukraine also needs them, and if not directly, then it will somehow get them somehow. Again, if not from Belarus, then from another supplier.
    1. Olgovich 13 January 2020 11: 43 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      Ukraine also needs them, and if not directly, then anyway she somehow will receive. Again, if not from Belarus, then from another supplier.

      Will not receive, but BUY. Moreover, for good money, which is NOT.

      Maybe they’ll think about it.

      And Russia is fundamentally wrong, having sold equipment for the production of cartridges of Belarus, without even formally stipulating a ban on the sale to certain third countries.
      1. The leader of the Redskins 13 January 2020 13: 34 New
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        If I’m not mistaken, Bulgaria Miraculously copes with the supply of ammunition, including even VOGI. And, apparently, not for free. Money is always found for war ....
        1. Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 55 New
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          If I’m not mistaken, Bulgaria Miraculously deals with the supply of ammunition,


          Metal, spare parts and units for the manufacture of military equipment. From 2014-2015, Belarus has been constantly increasing, for example, the supply of electric motors used to rotate the turret and (or) the fire module on armored personnel carriers and tanks. You can also add engine parts, chassis, gearboxes and, most importantly, batteries, the production of which is only being restored in Ukraine.

          The dynamics of the supply of armored glass and glass of increased strength looks interesting - the growth compared to 2016 is more than doubled in prices and volumes. And it’s a coincidence that 2017 was the year of mass purchase for the Armed Forces and the National Guard under armored vehicles and armored personnel carriers in which such glass is used
          .


          https://naviny.by/en/node/373652
      2. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 53 New
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        And Russia is fundamentally wrong by selling equipment for the production of bullets in Belarus, without even formally stipulating a ban


        In general, Belarus should be very cautious in this regard - let it be bought from fraternal China ..
        1. Zoldat_A 15 January 2020 03: 37 New
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          Quote: Olezhek
          In general, Belarus should be very cautious here.

          For some reason, I immediately remember native Belarusian exports such as Belarusian shrimp and pineapple....

          Nothing teaches us ....
      3. Nyrobsky 13 January 2020 16: 42 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        And Russia is fundamentally wrong by selling equipment for the production of cartridges of Belarus, even without formally stipulating a ban on the sale to certain third countries.

        In 2011-2012, Russia entered into a contract under which it supplied almost 1 billion cartridges of 7,62X39 to the United States. I do not think that American citizens suddenly had such a rush of demand for “Kalash” and shooting at shooting ranges. The purchase somehow coincided with the beginning of the slaughter in Libya and the subsequent export of "democracy" to Syria. What prevents the Americans from buying another batch of cartridges and tossing them into the "European country" as military aid? And it seems that no one will look for arguments in order to refuse mattresses in this purchase.
        1. Captain Pushkin 13 January 2020 21: 27 New
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          Quote: Nyrobsky
          I do not think that American citizens suddenly had such a rush of demand for “Kalash” and shooting at shooting ranges.

          Cartridge factories of the Russian Federation have been surviving for decades through supplies to the United States. They began long before 2011.
          Cartridge 7,62x39 in the United States is very popular (and not only in the United States) and civilians shoot rounds of shooting ranges in the United States at times more than the army, police and other security forces in the Russian Federation.
          1. Nyrobsky 13 January 2020 21: 40 New
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            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            I do not think that American citizens suddenly had such a rush of demand for “Kalash” and shooting at shooting ranges.

            Cartridge factories of the Russian Federation have been surviving for decades through supplies to the United States. They began long before 2011.
            Cartridge 7,62x39 in the United States is very popular (and not only in the United States) and civilians shoot rounds of shooting ranges in the United States at times more than the army, police and other security forces in the Russian Federation.

            I will not argue, but it coincided that the biggest purchase came at the time when the big butch began in Libya and Syria, where the Barmalean army was initially and almost without exception armed with the Kalashnikov. It was then that another shooter went there, but even today the good old AK holds the palm there. Actually, this is not the point, but the fact that we can sell our cartridge, and Belarusians cannot, despite the fact that no one can guarantee that this cartridge will not be used against you or against your neighbor. If you give the Indian Raja on the head with a Chinese microwave, then this is not a reason to accuse the Chinese of deliberately harboring intentions to jam this particular Raja. With the same success with this microwave, any Kirghiz could give some Baltic on the skull. The microwave should warm, and shoot the cartridge ... both of these goods are sold to the one who buys it. The Americans with our rocket engines lift their satellites into space aimed against us, but we, knowing this, sell them our engines.
            1. Captain Pushkin 14 January 2020 22: 17 New
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              Quote: Nyrobsky
              in Libya and Syria, where the Barmalean army was initially and almost without exception armed with the Kalashnikov. It was then another shooter went there, but even today the good old AK holds the palm there

              Cartridges for AK are produced in Hungary, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic and several other European countries, NATO and not NATO. For the supply of barmaley could easily do without purchases in the Russian Federation. Apparently, just in the Russian Federation to buy cartridges is cheaper.
        2. demchuk.ig 14 January 2020 12: 35 New
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          A few years ago, our BPZ (who is not in the know, Barnaul) concluded a huge contract for the supply of .223REM to America, which, most likely, then went to Syria, Iran, Iraq, etc.
          1. Captain Pushkin 14 January 2020 22: 12 New
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            Quote: demchuk.ig
            A few years ago, our BPZ (who is not in the know, Barnaul) concluded a huge contract for the supply of .223REM to America, which, most likely, then went to Syria, Iran, Iraq, etc.

            In fact, the .223REM is a hunting and sporting version of the live cartridge, with a reduced powder charge. It is unlikely that he was sent to hot spots. It’s just that in the USA there are some wild scales of firing of cartridges - all deliveries from the Russian Federation (huge by our standards), this is about 7% of the US cartridges market.
            In the United States, civilians have a lot more than 200 million small arms.
            1. lev1759 15 January 2020 06: 18 New
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              .223REM is a hunting and sporting version of the live cartridge, with a reduced powder charge


              This is what a fright such a version came from? Link, pliz ....
              1. Muxalet 15 January 2020 10: 50 New
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                https://shopgun.com.ua/patrhone/narezhie-patrhone/223-rem/
                https://stvol.ua/catalog/patrony_nareznye/334034/
      4. Karaul73 13 January 2020 23: 13 New
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        Do not worry too much. For such purposes, money will be found. All states have funds to increase defense capability.
    2. Vlad.by 13 January 2020 11: 59 New
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      Announce, please, the whole list ...
      And the question of prices is also very important. Given the additional costs of organizing the production of "components", i.e. not from scratch. capsules, gunpowder, too, are worth something and no one will supply them at reduced prices, given the current trend in relations between the two countries. Moreover, the final destination is known.
      There are more questions than answers.
      But, something seems to me that this whole undertaking will go to ruins over the blues from the Ford plant and the Baltika brewery. There are many words, and at the exit there is a mountain of zilch.
  2. Fibrizio 13 January 2020 10: 42 New
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    Why then the thought does not go beyond the military. With such a volume as theirs, it is quite possible to sell on the civilian market. This is a drop in the ocean. We must not forget that only in Russia is a man with a weapon by public standards a psycho or a patient.
    And why do they collect it themselves? It is quite logical. If the civilian market - you need a quality assembly, but not anyhow.
    + we do not know what consumables they buy. Maybe it's brass shells and tompak bullets. So why not? Maybe we will also buy them if there are no hanging samples.

    And as for Ukraine, something tells me that it will still be much cheaper for them to buy Soviet zinc in the Warsaw Pact countries.

    By the way, they zeroed duties on this business - they could well have taken a place in the market, as the price of a cartridge is of great importance. Place in their offshore the production of some kind of RWS, Lapua or, at worst, SB, the whole world would buy rounds of Made Made Belarus.
    1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 42 New
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      And as for Ukraine, something tells me that it will still be much cheaper for them to buy Soviet zinc in the Warsaw Pact countries
      .

      Allegedly - to a certain "European country", which has already received the first consignment of ammunition, "was satisfied" and made new "long-term orders." Moreover, literally "for years to come", according to Scraeg.


      But what kind of country is this?
      Probably Poland?
      after all, the main militarists and achressors
  3. Mavrikiy 13 January 2020 10: 45 New
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    Cartridge factory in Belarus: in which "European country" RB has arranged the supply of ammunition
    Wow, all to people. repeat altruism. Itself only oil and gas from the Russian Federation.
  4. figwam 13 January 2020 10: 46 New
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    This alignment from the father-ally is not even surprising.
  5. Fibrizio 13 January 2020 10: 50 New
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    Quote: Mavrikiy
    altruism

    I would argue. A bullet is a maximum of 5 rubles, a sleeve 10 (and if steel G, then generally rupe, rupe powder, rupe capsule (they obviously take in bulk).
    And they sell for 30 rubles. Money from the air =)
  6. 7,62h54 13 January 2020 11: 03 New
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    And what exactly is the author dissatisfied with. Well organized their production, and well done. They are as pragmatic as our Dear Leader.
    1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 47 New
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      And what exactly is the author dissatisfied with. Well organized their production, and well done. They are just as pragmatic


      By the way, yes - Cyclone-B production was also quite a respectable business.
      1. 7,62h54 13 January 2020 16: 09 New
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        Did your grandfather tell you this? Worked there?
      2. Zefr 13 January 2020 21: 10 New
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        Cyclone-B is still available. No one claims. Used according to the instructions - as an insecticide
  7. Romey 13 January 2020 11: 04 New
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    Yes, yes! In the price of new! Belarusians are the main bastards. This is the trend today. Only now it’s interesting, but who is shredding with bandera (sorry, partners), coal, electricity, gas, and even quite a fastener? Are only Belarusians?
    1. kapitan92 13 January 2020 12: 22 New
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      Quote: romey
      Yes, yes! In the price of new! Belarusians are the main bastards. The trend is now

      Dmitriy hi , exactly, the trend! laughing
      After the demarche of the Republic of Belarus with an increase of up to 50% in income tax on pumping oil, Lukashenko’s refusal to sign a “road map” for a “union state” at the end of 2019, similar materials appear in the Russian media.
      And that they installed the cartridge production line in the Republic of Belarus yesterday, and signed the contract for the supply of components for cartridges yesterday !? lol
      Quote: romey
      and who shreds with Bandera (sorry, partners), coal, electricity, gas, and even a pretty solyrochnoy quite tight? Are only Belarusians?

      I must add to this that Sberbank did not leave the outskirts, but annually “rolls” hundreds of millions of dollars into additional capitalization. I won’t be surprised if, with Russian money, cartridges are bought in the Republic of Belarus in order to then destroy the Russians in Lao PDR. hi
      1. major147 13 January 2020 13: 59 New
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        Quote: kapitan92
        After the demarche of the Republic of Belarus with an increase of up to 50% in income tax on oil pumping,

        For the sake of objectivity, I want to note:
        The environmental tax on oil transit through the territory of Belarus will be paid by the Gomeltransneft Druzhba enterprise, a source in the oil industry told RIA Novosti. Transneft will not pay anything. This does not concern the Russian side at all, ”the agency’s interlocutor emphasized.
        1. Victor N 14 January 2020 16: 06 New
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          "Interlocutor" is wrong: the additional transportation costs will certainly be passed on to the consumer, which will reduce the competitiveness of the goods and affect the revenues of suppliers.
      2. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 44 New
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        Lukashenko to sign at the end of 2019 a “road map” for a “union state”, similar materials appear in the Russian media.
        And that they installed the cartridge production line in the Republic of Belarus yesterday, and signed the contract for the supply of components for cartridges yesterday !?


        And sho?
        Do they deliver them to where?
        And then they wave red flags and shout for high morale
      3. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 51 New
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        I must add to this that Sberbank did not leave the outskirts, but annually “rolls” hundreds of millions of dollars into additional capitalization. I won’t be surprised


        How many people rushed to "lick" Lukashenko ... lol
    2. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 34 New
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      Yes, yes! In the price of new! Belarusians are the main bastards. This is the trend today. Only here is interesting, and who


      That is, it is the Belarusians who supply ammunition to the fascists?
      And is this gut?
      1. Romey 13 January 2020 16: 04 New
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        Well, you do not understand the hints, then I will say directly. As indicated by a colleague, the stingy and supposedly almost state-owned Sberbank sponsors the enemy’s economy. Our money. Electricity to Ukraine is supplied from our power plants. Our gas is pumped through rabid grandmothers through Ukraine. Diesel fuel refueled in Bandera tanks is produced at our refineries. All sorts of Ukrainian steamships freely sail through the Kerch Strait, and even when necessary, arrange provocations. The unfortunate Donbass is smashed daily from equipment kindly handed over to ukronazists from the Crimea. Coal of the same unfortunate Donbass is also rushing to Ukraine through gray schemes developed by Kremlin curators. As a result, Belarusians turn out to be bad, and only the Kremlin is all white, since business is business, hypocrites ...
        1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 17: 49 New
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          Well, you do not understand the hints, then I will say directly. As indicated by a colleague, the stingy and supposedly almost state-owned Sberbank sponsors the enemy’s economy. Our money.


          As a result, Belarusians turn out to be bad, and only the Kremlin is all white, since business is business, hypocrites ...


          Hi Syabram!
      2. Sewer krainiy 13 January 2020 22: 10 New
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        That is, it is the Belarusians who supply ammunition to the fascists?
        And is this gut?


        Give you a salag-clicker on the lips. Not shame, not conscience. Some interjections ...
        1. Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 43 New
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          Give you a salag-clicker on the lips. Not shame, not conscience. Some interjections ..


          In a number of positions, shortly after the current regime came to power in Kiev, an unexplained, at first glance, surge is observed in the defense industry complex of Minsk. So, for example, it coincided exactly in time - deliveries to Ukrainian garment factories on a massive scale of cotton and linen material necessary for sewing military uniforms, and an increase in exports of these same fabrics from Belarus immediately by 3,1 times.

          Also, since 2015, Minsk has suddenly grown sharply; it’s unknown where, like, night-vision devices, sights, binoculars and monoculars and other optics. This situation persists to this day.

          Don't you find that we have before us a very original way of Alexander Lukashenko to strengthen allied relations with Russia?
          https://newsland.com/user/4297789135/content/lukashenko-pomogaet-kievu-otvoevat-donbass/6440786


          1. Sewer krainiy 15 January 2020 16: 16 New
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            Dear, calculate where and how much cobalt, luminium laughing , hemp (sails used to be done), flax (you can sew a military uniform, however, but it will be expensive). They trade everything and everything that happens. It was on the resources that Ukraine could sell Torah M-1 to Iran in modern times. I’m not screaming that America is to blame for selling something somewhere, Russia ... American Javelins in Ukraine justify ...
  8. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 11: 08 New
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    Soviet-style cartridges are produced by Serbs, Bulgarians, and Czechs, and there are still a lot of these goods in the warehouses. In addition, in Europe there are a couple of countries with weapons for these cartridges, but without their own production. So do not reduce everything to Ukraine.
    1. tihonmarine 13 January 2020 11: 20 New
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      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      So do not reduce everything to Ukraine.

      That's right, Belarusians, Czechs, Serbs, as it does not play a role. Well, they will not, there will be others, they will not leave Ukraine without cartridges, the war is a profit and super-profit.
      1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 15: 04 New
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        That's right, Belarusians, Czechs, Serbs, as it does not play a role.


        Well, the "lads" from East Europe ..
        Ukraine has problems with deliveries from Germany
        Don't want to get dirty ... amazing?
        1. tihonmarine 13 January 2020 16: 48 New
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          Quote: Olezhek
          Ukraine has problems with deliveries from Germany

          Well, in Germany all the same, they think, but not all the same.
    2. Professor 13 January 2020 11: 22 New
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      Soviet-style cartridges are produced by both Serbs, and Bulgarians, and Czechs,

      ... and the Israelis.
      1. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 12: 07 New
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        Where do we produce Soviet cartridges? We ourselves purchase them from the Bulgarians.
        1. Professor 13 January 2020 12: 42 New
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          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          Where do we produce Soviet cartridges? We ourselves purchase them from the Bulgarians.

          You are mistaken. Israel exports them in large quantities.
          http://www.imisystems.com
          1. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 12: 52 New
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            "Taasia Tswait" produces only NATO standard cartridges. And it also supplies NATO cartridges for export.
            1. Professor 13 January 2020 14: 36 New
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              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              "Taasia Tswait" produces only NATO standard cartridges. And it also supplies NATO cartridges for export.

              You're wrong. They export any cartridges. At least to the three-ruler, at least to Nagan.
              1. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 15: 16 New
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                I'm not wrong. Maximum, they CAN engage in retail, but there is no reason for this.
                1. Professor 13 January 2020 18: 42 New
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                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  I'm not wrong. Maximum, they CAN engage in retail, but there is no reason for this.

                  You are mistaken. Bitachon Garden does not allow me to refute you.
                  1. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 19: 37 New
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                    The Taasiya Tsvati sales list is no secret to anyone.
                    1. Professor 13 January 2020 20: 03 New
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                      Quote: Zeev Zeev
                      The Taasiya Tsvati sales list is no secret to anyone.

                      Yeah. Available for everyone. wassat
                      1. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 23: 27 New
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                        For everyone interested. In the reference "Jaynes".
                      2. Professor 14 January 2020 09: 29 New
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                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        For everyone interested. In the reference "Jaynes".

                        Interested in. Drop the link to whom TAAS sold cartridges.
            2. tihonmarine 13 January 2020 16: 50 New
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              Quote: Professor
              You're wrong. They export any cartridges.

              There would be buyers, but there is a product.
  9. maidan.izrailovich 13 January 2020 11: 37 New
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    ... and in the warehouses of this good there are still a lot ...
    . So do not reduce everything to Ukraine.

    You apparently are not aware that "this good" has a shelf life.
    And "this good" in warehouses should be periodically updated, and the expired must be written off and disposed of.
    And for all this it is necessary to have an appropriate production. This is precisely the problem in Ukraine.
    1. Zeev Zeev 13 January 2020 12: 40 New
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      I am aware of the shelf life and the price of expired ammunition.
    2. Fibrizio 13 January 2020 14: 34 New
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      They extended the same tank charges shelf life. In Ukraine, the Grad rockets are also overdue (part at least) Yes, guns sometimes burst because gunpowder changes its characteristics during long or improper storage. After all, this is not that black smoker, modern gunpowder is chemistry in its purest form.
      But in general, I personally know people who shoot a canine from 98x. The only thing that was done was the replacement of the capsule with a non-corrosive one. The powder was poured back, the bullet was seated in place. No problem. The accuracy is higher than that of modern domestic.
      So with proper storage, the cartridges have a life time that is multiple of the declared.

      Small caliber by the way is not so difficult to dispose of. Although for me, this is a strange decision. It would be much more logical to re-equip.
      For example, the TechCrim cartridge factory is busy with this business. Patricks are given to him for recycling, he receives bablandos and from them he makes "new ones".
  10. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 35 New
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    Soviet-style cartridges are produced by Serbs, Bulgarians, and Czechs, and there are still a lot of these goods in the warehouses. In addition, in Europe there are a couple of countries with weapons for these cartridges, but without their own production. So do not reduce everything to Ukraine.


    And then why not call this mysterious consumer country?
    What are our Belarusian "brothers" obscuring?
    1. Fibrizio 13 January 2020 14: 41 New
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      Maybe their Czech distributor for example buys. And then it already sells throughout the EU.
      1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 49 New
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        Maybe their Czech distributor for example buys. And then it already sells throughout the EU.


        And then what to hide?
    2. tihonmarine 13 January 2020 16: 52 New
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      Quote: Olezhek
      And then why not call this mysterious consumer country?

      Well, we will not begin to name one country, except for it, all of Africa and the East, and everyone needs cartridges for Kalashnikov, and for Mosin.
    3. Sewer krainiy 13 January 2020 22: 04 New
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      And then why not call this mysterious consumer country?
      What are our Belarusian "brothers" obscuring?


      Do not generalize, you are not our brother, we have Russian brothers who are brothers for Belarusians. And you so ... it is not clear what it is. And take away the fleet epaulets, do not disgrace the fleet to which you have nothing to do. I like to sit on the couch and imagine myself on the deck in seven winds ...
      1. Olezhek 14 January 2020 10: 20 New
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        Do not generalize, you are not our brother, we have Russian brothers who are brothers for Belarusians



        And those Russians who are killed in the Donbass from Belarusian weapons-who are you?
        1. Sewer krainiy 15 January 2020 16: 07 New
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          I didn’t understand somehow what Belarusian weapons are in the Donbass. Okay, cursed. In the Donbass. Soviet weapons made in the USSR. And here is Belarus. I begin to doubt: Oleg is Oleg Egorov or his clone. With all (or many) disagreements with Oleg Egorov, but that Olezhek was smarter. Looks like a clone.
  • Professor 13 January 2020 11: 21 New
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    Today it’s no secret that most of the fuel for the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Novosibirsk State University, including those located in the Donbass, has been supplied from the Republic of Belarus over the past few years.

    And what is the problem actually? There are no sanctions against Ukraine, and Ukrainian tanks today drive Russian hydrocarbons.
    1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 36 New
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      And what is the problem actually? There are no sanctions against Ukraine, and Ukrainian tanks today drive Russian hydrocarbons.


      You are mistaken. Israel exports them in large quantities.
      http://www.imisystems.com


      I doubt a little that Israel will easily sell them to Ukraine
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        Quote: Olezhek

        And what is the problem actually? There are no sanctions against Ukraine, and Ukrainian tanks today drive Russian hydrocarbons.


        You are mistaken. Israel exports them in large quantities.
        http://www.imisystems.com


        I doubt a little that Israel will easily sell them to Ukraine

        Why not? Tavor and Negev sold.
    2. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 40 New
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      And what is the problem actually? There are no sanctions against Ukraine, and Ukrainian tanks today drive Russian hydrocarbons.


      So there are no sanctions against Belarus - let them buy oil and weapons wherever they want
      But not in Russia
      It’s spacious on the street
  • Alexga 13 January 2020 11: 21 New
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    Let me remind you that the ban on the supply of ammunition has not yet been lifted from Belarus. Remember, when the RB biathlon team arrived in Germany, it was forbidden to import cartridges. And how many labors followed to lift the ban on sports cartridges.
    1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 45 New
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      Let me remind you that the ban on the supply of ammunition has not yet been lifted from Belarus. Remember, when the biathlon team of Belarus arrived in Germany, it was forbidden to import cartridges


      But the Germans have a historical trauma - they do not like mustached dictators. belay
      1. kotvov 13 January 2020 19: 15 New
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        But the Germans have a historical trauma - they do not like mustached dictators,
        But their accomplices in war crimes are very respected.
        1. Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 31 New
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          But their accomplices in war crimes are very respected.


          No, use but do not respect
  • Strashila 13 January 2020 11: 26 New
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    “but export of such has already been organized abroad!”, which is surprising, there is a demand for ammunition for Soviet and Russian weapons in the world. Given the intensity of hostilities in the Middle East.
    Belarus managed to keep the chemical production, the cartridge factory a logical result, then we are waiting for the production of other ammunition.
    “Ukraine gives us the experience of how an army could end up without cartridges.” And this is an example of how to miscalculate everything if everything is available ..
    1. Gato 13 January 2020 12: 00 New
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      how to miscalculate everything in the presence of everything

      Do not lose, but steal. If it flows into one pipe, then somewhere it flows into!
    2. Olezhek 14 January 2020 10: 02 New
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      Belarus managed to preserve the chemical production, the cartridge factory a logical result,


      It is a pity she did not manage to save her conscience. request
  • Alexey Kurtov 13 January 2020 11: 29 New
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    Photo from where? Russian steel sleeves.
    1. YOUR 13 January 2020 11: 42 New
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      This is just a photo not related to the article. But all the material for the release of the cartridge is obtained from Russia. According to the press release of the plant, sporting and hunting cartridges are produced.
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    3. Fibrizio 13 January 2020 14: 24 New
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      steel sleeves.

      Not your truth. In brass offers for example LVE to purchase.
      It’s more correct to say that our shells are under berdan, but we don’t have a photo from the inside =)
  • YOUR 13 January 2020 11: 40 New
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    Live ammunition has been produced in Belarus for a long time. The plant is located in Minsk, called "Caliber", in addition to electronic equipment produce cartridges.
    The factory you are talking about in the article cannot be called otherwise; there are only 10 machines for the production of various cartridges, which are discussed above, built in the Orsha district. It produces sporting and hunting cartridges. Which are much higher than military ones. There is one package not for the gross cartridge. Ten rounds in a pack, inside a plastic container.
    Why did the author of this article suddenly decide that RB sells cartridges to / from Ukraine? After the collapse of the USSR in / in Ukraine, ammunition and other ammunition for a couple of WWII wars will be enough. Most of what was exported from groups of troops settled there.
    Especially for the author. You dig deeper into the material. At this plant, cartridges are not the main product, the main thing is the repair of R-27 aircraft missiles that have served their term. One such rocket costs about 1 million dollars. The cost of such a missile covers all issued cartridges sold abroad
    Read
    https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sb.by%2Farticles%2Fpopadanie-v-oboymu.html
    1. Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 59 New
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      You dig deeper into the material.




      How Belarusian weapons on $ 100 million fell to jihadists in Syria
      Read more: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2017/08/30/kak-belorusskoe-oruzhie-na-100-mln-popalo-k-dzhihadistam-v-sirii


      Channels of arms supplies from Belarus to Syrian militants
      https://topwar.ru/123850-kanaly-postavok-oruzhiya-iz-belorussii-siriyskim-boevikam.html


      https://aftershock.news/?q=node/637568&full
      Via Bulgaria: Does Minsk Increase Ammunition Supply for Syrian Militants?


      Belarus supplies weapons to Syria with the help of the Pentagon. And already earned $ 100 million
      2017.09.27
      Americans come to Belarus for anti-tank systems and grenade launchers
      - and knowledge of how to use these weapons.
      Two years ago, Belarus earned more than $ 100 million, unexpectedly increasing exports to Bulgaria
      https://mislpronzaya.livejournal.com/344898.html


      Even deeper?
  • Fibrizio 13 January 2020 14: 21 New
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    Ten rounds in a pack, inside a plastic container.

    Such packages are made only for super-large calibers. 20 rounds of life was. And judging by the photo, Belarus has the same amount. And 9x19 they’re doing 50 of their lives all over the world (or they sell whole banks).
  • Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 37 New
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    The other day, Alexei Skraga, General Director of BSVT - New Technologies LLC, a subsidiary of the state concern Belspetsvneshtekhnika, announced that the country has not only launched a full-fledged production process of ammunition for small arms, but also exported them abroad! At the same time, this head stubbornly does not want to name the country of the customer,


    And what does Herr Scruge hide? belay
  • Olezhek 13 January 2020 14: 54 New
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    For the life of killing, in a long time ago Europe switched to NATO standards, another state that has a “years ahead” need for ammunition for Soviet-style small arms is difficult to find.


    Iksperd's answer ???
    Shaw for the country? belay
    Albania, no?
  • Olezhek 13 January 2020 15: 11 New
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    . Brovchenko, deciding not to exchange for such trifles as cartridges, waved a contract for the purchase of equipment for the production of artillery shells in Ukraine, as a result of which more than 8 million dollars from the state budget "disappeared" in an unknown direction, and the promised production line never appeared. However, after making a rather big pledge, Brovchenko himself disappeared from the remand prison in the same unknown direction ...


    Brovchenko award! And financially encourage!
    Good for you! good
    drinks
  • BAI
    BAI 13 January 2020 16: 44 New
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    In the Near and Middle East of Soviet weapons - the sea. And if it is necessary to deliver to some "not legitimate" organizations and movements through a European laying company, to organize an illegal supply is a holy thing. Moreover, the price will be higher than the market. For the risk.
  • Valery Pinchuk 13 January 2020 21: 01 New
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    But AFFtara of this post does not care about the question that the Russian Federation until the middle of 2019 supplied oil products to Ukraine, and was one of the most important suppliers, including the APU, which is independent! Then 45% of the Ukrainian gasoline market and 35% of diesel fuel to the republic came directly from Russia from RosNeft and Lukoil!
    As of the end of 2018, Belarusians provided 40,31% of the Ukrainian fuel market with supplies, and Russia - 37,41%, “only” 3% less! Lithuania - 9,63%, and another 12,65% - other countries. ”
    In the same way with ammunition, it can only be through state gaskets!
    More details: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2019/04/18/perspektivy-ukrainy-bez-rossiyskoy-nefti-budut-zaviset-ot-belarusi-mnenie.
    So, ".... there’s nothing to blame for the mirror, if it’s a curve near the face!"
    1. here 13 January 2020 21: 21 New
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      you have such a parallel thoughtful: it means they shoot ammunition, but in gasoline what? drown or what? Do not embarrass heresy! and where, let me ask, does Belarus have the right to issue Kalash cartridges? Or is it also Friendship?
    2. Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 48 New
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      But AFFtara of this post does not care about the question that the Russian Federation until the middle of 2019 supplied oil products to Ukraine


      The fact that the enterprises of the State Military Industry of Belarus do not officially trade with Ukraine is true. It is also true that the Ukrainian army is largely provided thanks to Belarusian supplies.

      By the end of 2015, when Ukraine critically needed a certain range of goods to restore the combat effectiveness of the army, Kiev's eyes turned to Belarus. Through our country (or directly from us) in different years were delivered:

      • rechargeable batteries for military and automotive equipment;

      • generators, electric servomotors for armored vehicles and other components;

      • aircraft (the Orsha Aircraft Repair Plant produced several helicopters, which then appeared on the territory of the southern neighbor, including in the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), there were supplies of other aircraft)


      https://naviny.by/en/node/373652
      1. Alexga 14 January 2020 10: 07 New
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        https://naviny.by/en/node/373652

        Olezhek, the source does not bother you:
        What is BelaPAN

        Belorussian information company BelaPAN is a leading provider of political, economic, business, financial and other information from Belarus.

        The abbreviation BelaPAN stands for Belarusian Private News Agency. Type of ownership - closed joint-stock company, shareholders - private individuals.

        Created in 1991 by Alesem Lipay, BelaPAN company over the years of its work has gained a reputation as an independent, reliable and timely source of information. BelaPAN messages are published by the largest publications of Belarus, quoted by many world radio stations and television companies. Our clients also include state and international organizations, diplomatic missions, banking and financial institutions, enterprises and companies from many countries of the world.
  • here 13 January 2020 21: 17 New
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    What a friendly country Belarus is to everyone: let Russia give gas and oil for free, and for this we will make cartridges for the murder of Russians. What a delight: it smelled like direct giblets
    1. Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 29 New
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      What a friendly country Belarus is to everyone: let Russia give gas and oil for free, and for this we will make cartridges for the murder of Russians.




      Well, finally it began to reach people in Russia.
      Lukashenko did his best to help the junta from the very beginning.

  • Sewer krainiy 13 January 2020 21: 53 New
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    Olezhek Today, 14:45 NEW
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    Let me remind you that the ban on the supply of ammunition has not yet been lifted from Belarus. Remember, when the biathlon team of Belarus arrived in Germany, it was forbidden to import cartridges


    But the Germans have a historical trauma - they do not like mustached dictators.


    Listen, Olezhek, you Belarusians dabbled in a bowl, once they gave you a sub-back, that you either think of fallen bridges, then factories, then industry, or cartridges. You smart people have already said that cartridges
    we produce sports and hunting, that the Russian oligarchs supply more fuel, etc. for the war in Ukraine. Read less here. Buy. And do not disgrace the fleet, change your shoulder straps well ... I don’t know which ones, you have nothing to do with the fleet.
    1. Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 39 New
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      Russia's ally supplies its enemies with everything: from army trucks to missile systems




      By 2016, in the Donbass, the Ukrainian army faced the threat of transport collapse. On the one hand, the reason was the huge loss of heavy automotive equipment in battles. On the other hand, the extreme deterioration of the fleet of military men who have not received such a replenishment for a long time. And suddenly today it became clear that the situation with trucks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine came to almost normal. How so? Due to what?

      Before 2016, Kiev had repeatedly appealed to Western European manufacturers of army trucks with pleas to open at least a “screwdriver assembly” of their products in the country. This did not give any results, since at that time even the main ideological sponsor of the Kiev coup d'etat - the United States - was wary of the prospects of transferring any weapons to the Armed Forces. Even non-lethal.


      Then in 2016, the "old man" extended a helping hand to the APU. This happened precisely at his level of competence - in March an intergovernmental agreement was signed on the assembly production of Belarusian trucks MAZ-6317 in Cherkasy,


      In the end, the Belarusian-Ukrainian automobile project has grown until the creation of an armored car. And this type of truck is already capable of working effectively even under fire. The company "Practice" produces armored trucks "Bogdan-Kozak." Why is the cab and body removed from the MAZ-6317 purchased in Minsk? Instead, install an armored cabin and kung. Also, the key components of the car are closed with armor.
      https://newsland.com/user/4297789135/content/lukashenko-pomogaet-kievu-otvoevat-donbass/6440786



      For the fact that I do not like fascists
      1. Sewer krainiy 15 January 2020 15: 57 New
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        Olezhek, please check how much Russia supplies to Ukraine. And energy and components. Oligarchs - they are both in Russia and Ukraine oligarchs ...
        1. Sewer krainiy 15 January 2020 16: 32 New
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          And, in addition, stop repeatedly reposting the photo of the President of Belarus in this form. For your information, if you did not know, photocores click everyone in the machine, then they select the necessary photos and give them to the press. And facial expressions during the conversation ... corrupt steel, did not spread before. All presidents can be, including you (not the president) wink ) present in any form. What, personal hatred ??? But actually, yes, he is harsh!
    2. Oleg2003 14 January 2020 12: 38 New
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      Facts: in Minsk - announcements in the subway, signs - Bel and English, despite the fact that Russian is the second state. Antics Natsik. 15 years ago in a team of 25 people - 2 is inadequate: Russophobes are Ukrainian and half-chedon (Pshek-Pole). Now of the same 25 - Russophobia 21, and sobering - all for Russia, mahanut - all Russophobes with the fix idea that Russia owes them a little
      1. Oleg2003 14 January 2020 12: 42 New
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        And it really infuriates me that the same Belarusians and Ukrainians (!), For many lard $>, do not know the feeling of gratitude
  • Bear040 13 January 2020 23: 07 New
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    The fact that Lukashenko is rotting has long been clear ... He does not hide the fact that he is cooperating in the military sphere with Ukraine and against whom he is cooperating too, it’s not difficult to guess against Russia ... It is time to stop feeding Lukashenko and his Bandera people at the expense of the Russian Federation, even if they are Kiev cookies from the woman Nuland fed ...
  • Olezhek 14 January 2020 09: 52 New
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    • The project of the Skif anti-tank missile system, in which the missile was Ukrainian and the Belarusian guidance system, was transformed into three independent projects: Hornet in Belarus, Stugna and Corsair in Ukraine. At the same time, in Minsk, we assume that we independently developed a technology for manufacturing rockets, in Kiev - guidance systems;


    Briefly describe the nature of the supplies for the Ukrainian army and military industry, chosen by Belarus, it is fully consistent with the allegations of the absence of arms trade with Ukraine. Minsk supplies materials to Kiev, of which weapons, military equipment or ammunition are produced locally, including at Belarusian-Ukrainian enterprises.


    Another serial model of cooperation between Belarusian car manufacturers and the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is the Varta armored car. The armored car is based on the MAZ-5434 chassis. The total number of vehicles transferred to the part can be estimated at 80-100 units for 2017 (from 60 to 80 in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and about 20 in the army).

    And this is only the beginning, because the army that is fighting requires constant updating of vehicles.


    Thank you brothers! crying
  • VicktorVR 14 January 2020 10: 19 New
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    2-3 thousand per hour ...
    Is it so much? For a day for one machine gun? Day factory hours - a day of battle for 20 machine guns.
  • RoTTor 14 January 2020 20: 19 New
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    Two-cousins
  • Roller Coaster1863 14 January 2020 21: 51 New
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    Workers need to feed their families. And Ukraine is not an enemy of Belarus.
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      Workers need to feed their families.


      Actually, are Belarusians considering the Russian market and Russian resources in some other plane?
      They do not feed anyone?
      At whose expense did Belarusians live the last 25 years?

      And Ukraine is not an enemy of Belarus.


      that is, Russia is just the enemy, do you want to say that?

      You see, your position is quite understandable and justified, only in this case
      do not ask anything from Russia.
      Nothing at all.
      Everything is strictly general at market prices.
  • Olya Tsako 15 January 2020 10: 42 New
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    Moderators, small nihilists, have been banning me since 2014, when I said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are killing people with BELARUSIAN weapons, fuels and lubricants, ammunition, military and auto-tractor equipment, food supplies and dry. rations.
    To incompetent performers, it comes, like to giraffes, in the 6th year of war and betrayal.
  • Motorhead 16 January 2020 00: 44 New
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    From all entichs, brothers, for some reason, except for the feeling of disgust, nothing remains.
  • Vic Klimets 26 February 2020 13: 32 New
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    The fact that the Republic of Belarus supplies cartridges to Ukraine is only a slight suspicion of the afftor of this article. The fact that the Russian Federation supplied military trucks, gasoline and diesel fuel for them to Ukraine is a fact reflected in the documents of Ukraine itself. But even so, it is better that Ukraine has its own military plant or that it imports military materials whose import can cut off at any moment of the Russian Federation, how are diesel supplies to Ukraine from Belarus last year ?? Smart people know the answer .. As for rifle cartridges, Ukraine received them in huge quantities and below the commercial price (or even as "humanitarian aid") from Estonia, Latvia, Poland, and Romania (where- then and again - I won’t mention it.) So for Belarus there is no place left in the warehouses (well, unless again it will explode :-))).
    Therefore, I consider this article as a purely propaganda one - they gave the go-ahead to drown Belarus - we drown in all directions.