Whose submarines is preparing to sink Ukraine: on the situation in the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Recently, the “non-down” armed forces have been suspiciously paying much attention to the development of forces and means aimed at combating enemy underwater means. Due to the complete, almost complete lack of military fleet, the main emphasis here is on combat Aviationor, more precisely, for helicopters, which in Ukraine, taking into account the available industrial capacities, can at least support them in a state of combat readiness. Judging by the available information, the APU intends to bet on them in a hypothetical "submarine war", where by definition they can have only one probable enemy.

So, before the end of 2019, it was expected that the Mi-10PCh (Mi-14PL) anti-submarine helicopter would be part of the 14th naval aviation brigade of the Ukrainian Navy. The machine, of course, is far from new, however, in addition to the overhaul, it also had to undergo a major modernization - with the installation of multifunctional navigation and communication equipment, a navigation indicator, new intercom systems, weather radar and more. According to the declared capabilities, the helicopter will be able not only to search for enemy underwater objects and track them with the help of special radio-acoustic buoys, but also to destroy them independently using bomb and torpedo weapons. Going to drown submarines ...



The airborne brigade of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces and the recently adopted Mi-8MSB-V helicopter recently adopted armaments. They really worked on him quite seriously. For example, a new TV3-117VMA-SBM1V engine manufactured by the Ukrainian Motor Sich was installed instead of the previously existing TV2-117. Also, this machine had thermal reflectors, reducing the possibility of hitting it with missiles with the corresponding homing heads, some more useful options were added. However, the main thing is the expected installation on Mi-8MSB-V of a new development by Ukrainian craftsmen from the military-industrial complex of new missile weapon systems - both unguided (B8V8MSB) and managed.

According to the developers, the Barrier-V guided missile system, which is designed to be installed on Mi-8MSB-V and (in the future) Mi-24 helicopters, is quite replacing the Soviet-style Sturm-V complex production. Both its control system and missiles are products exclusively of Ukrainian enterprises. It should be noted that "anti-submarine" tactical exercises are carried out by the Naval Aviation Command fairly regularly. Last summer, Mi-14, Ka-27 and An-26 aircraft participated in them, which, of course, “conditionally sunk” the “conditional submarine of the enemy” quite successfully. Now, with the receipt of new technology, such maneuvers, presumably, will take place with even greater scope and even more convincing conditional victories.

Generally speaking, Ukraine is building up its own naval component at an accelerated pace. This year, according to Anatoly Petrenko, the Deputy Minister of Defense for European Integration, in addition to the two American Island class boats received from the United States, six more Russian-made military ships, the Centaur Project 58503 landing assault boats, must join the Navy there. and small armored boats of the project 58155 Gyurza-M. Yes, yes - those who "lit up" during the "Kerch incident." In addition, as far as is known, the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers supported the idea of ​​purchasing another 20 patrol vessels worth $ 136 and a half million dollars from the French company OKIA. Add to this the very real prospects of Kiev receiving anti-ship missiles from Washington, recently voiced by William Taylor, former US Chargé d'Affaires in Ukraine.

Given the complete absence of naval forces in the republics of Donbass, as well as the “nervous itch” that has significantly increased lately in Ukraine over the Crimea, questions about who it is planned to use against all of these accumulated, as they say, “from the world over thread "of forces and means can hardly be considered appropriate.
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  1. +4
    13 January 2020 07: 00
    what's so funny? we in this direction are also not so hot. although real opponents are missing.
    1. +6
      13 January 2020 08: 05
      What can I say with confidence: we do not need anything to fight the Ukrainian submarine fleet. wink Since there is no such fleet.
      1. +1
        13 January 2020 11: 53
        Quote: bessmertniy
        Since there is no such fleet.

        Not your truth feel
    2. -1
      13 January 2020 08: 18
      It strains something else, if Gunpowder was just tying money of the defense industry, then Ze somehow eagerly tries to buy weapons. Although used.
    3. -3
      13 January 2020 08: 39
      In this regard, as well as the mine mine, we have not so much, not so hot, but a complete seam! This is sad. Screaming that they made a super-duper minesweeper in the amount of 1 pc. this is not serious!
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 13: 55
        Do you have it in Ukraine?
    4. 0
      16 January 2020 00: 22
      Ahti or I don’t really know, but in Banderland they simply restore what there are at least some spare parts to. The question is whether the fleet or the state need it - not at all.
  2. 0
    13 January 2020 07: 13
    Well, let them try, and it turns out that the statehood of Ukraine will cost one submarine of the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      13 January 2020 08: 07
      it is necessary to create the Navy of Moldova-to divert attention
      1. -1
        13 January 2020 11: 56
        Quote: antivirus
        it is necessary to create the Navy of Moldova-to divert attention

        The question needs to be worked out. Once America tried to send its fleet to the "shores" of Belarus ...
        1. +2
          13 January 2020 13: 12
          Moldova has a seaport on the Danube, 400m border
    2. 0
      13 January 2020 12: 44
      Quote: Aliken
      statehood of Ukraine will cost one submarine of the Russian Federation.

      Depending on the range of destruction of air targets, air defense systems are divided into short-range systems - up to 10 km, short-range - up to 30 km, medium-range - up to 100 km and long-range - more than 100 km.

      Those. The Sea of ​​Azov is shot through. Long-range air defense from Crimea is being reached to Odessa. So they better not fly over the sea.
  3. 0
    13 January 2020 07: 21
    First thing, first thing ... helicopters! Well, think about it, then probably.
    1. +3
      13 January 2020 08: 07
      A small modernization - and from a simple Ukrainian helicopter we get another submarine in the steppes of Ukraine! wassat
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 08: 31
        Well, yes, gopher bombing from a helicopter, that’s it.
      2. +2
        13 January 2020 10: 39
        Quote: bessmertniy
        A small modernization - and from a simple Ukrainian helicopter we get another submarine

        And not only the boat ...
        "All we can do is not give.
        And attach a member to the mare and sell for a gelding "

        1. +1
          13 January 2020 11: 00
          There are no limits to military-technical thought. You can also make something like a tank from a simple Kalina. what
          1. 0
            13 January 2020 11: 10
            Quote: bessmertniy
            There are no limits to military-technical thought.

            At exactly laughing



            Well, this is not the limit either laughing
    2. +2
      13 January 2020 11: 58
      Quote: rocket757
      First thing, first thing ... helicopters!

      Well so FSE is logical. Fly not so fast and not so high. Can be repaired on the go laughing
      But letaki, after all, is a complete zrad
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 12: 32
        In any case, the main thing is that professionals deal with it!
        1. -1
          13 January 2020 12: 44
          Quote: rocket757
          In any case, the main thing is that professionals deal with it!

          And in another they have nothing

  4. -3
    13 January 2020 07: 41
    It is not clear, Mi-14, the receipt of which was expected at the end of 2019. (as part of the 10th brigade of the Navy) - entered service or is everything just expected?
    From the article .....Ukraine is building up its own naval component at an accelerated pace ....
    Clowns
  5. +2
    13 January 2020 10: 22
    I don’t understand something of these morons, they show decommunization on the box, and they’re not afraid to use Soviet equipment. So this is a zrada zrada, for this it is necessary to the wall.
    1. -5
      13 January 2020 10: 34
      Quote: Ros 56
      and they’re not afraid to use Soviet technology

      Mi-14 was made on the basis of Mi-4, a thunderstorm of the submarine fleet, when will these people stop laughing.
      1. +2
        13 January 2020 11: 24
        Quote: bober1982
        when will these people stop laughing.

        Excuse me, didn’t you forget how their newly elected one earned his living? laughing
      2. +2
        13 January 2020 11: 30
        Quote: bober1982
        Mi-14 was made on the basis of Mi-4,

        A little description, apparently. The base is still used by MI-8.
        1. +1
          13 January 2020 11: 46
          Quote: AlexVas44
          Descriptive, apparently

          Yes you are right.
    2. +1
      13 January 2020 11: 39
      Quote: Ros 56
      I don’t understand something of these morons, they show decommunization on the box, and they’re not afraid to use Soviet equipment.

      And still not afraid to live in houses built during the Soviet Union, use e-mail. energy from Zaporizhzhya hydroelectric station named after V.I. Lenin. The truth is not destroyed, but the name changed.
      And still not afraid to use nuclear power plants, railway transport, gas pipes.
      They’re not afraid of anything.
      This is such a "brave" nation request
  6. 0
    13 January 2020 20: 55
    "Whose submarines Ukraine is preparing to sink: on the situation in the Ukrainian Navy"
    How whose ?! Ours are not Virginias ...
    And our partners from across the ocean will help everyone they can. Don’t even be so kind as to get along.
    1. +3
      13 January 2020 21: 24
      Personally, I am not inclined to be so frivolous about these causes. Enemy is better to overestimate than ...
      With a fairly competent approach (and there is no doubt about it), UA together with USA will be able to organize many sorrows for us.
      Partners, and not yesterday, set a goal to squeeze the Russian Federation out of the Black Sea. And quite systematically, slowly and with varying success, they are trying to achieve their goal.
      Therefore, I would not have been in a hurry to have fun and mockery.
  7. +1
    13 January 2020 23: 01
    Helicopters, especially transport and anti-submarine ones, need to be covered with fighter jets, and they were crying at the nearby cat, and they are all antediluvian, Soviet-built ... These helicopters will burn like Georgian drones from the very first flight of the Russian Air Force ... especially since Mi-8 and Mi-14 will not be able to survive the meeting even with Mi-28 ... not to mention the Ka-52 and Su-35 ... Judging by the air defense systems of Ukraine remaining in the Crimea, it’s also not worth much to rely on an air defense ...
    1. +1
      14 January 2020 07: 25
      You, shy, are so serious, already terrible. Vmsu thinks creatively, from the air they will be covered by motor-hang gliders. And what? Cheap and cheerful! Stealth technology!
  8. +1
    14 January 2020 07: 20
    I would not be so categorical about the Navy of Donbass. Enterprising generals and admirals of the navy for a long time, probably sold a couple of boats to Donetsk
  9. 0
    14 January 2020 09: 28
    Gentlemen, and who can enlighten about the resource of, say, a helicopter glider))), relative to the MI-8 and MI-14, and what years of production these helicopters in / in Ukraine.
    1. +1
      17 January 2020 08: 50
      The glider is almost eternal. Just don’t nail up plywood. The blades are constantly changing. You can probably order them somewhere. And the engine with the gearbox is made at the same factory.
  10. 0
    17 January 2020 08: 46
    Last summer, Mi-14, Ka-27 and An-26 aircraft participated in them, which, of course, “conditionally sunk” quite successfully “the enemy’s conditional submarine”

    Interesting. Who was the target?
    And the PL against Ukraine makes no sense to act close. There is almost no one to drown there. Aviation will sink a couple of ships, no one else will go there. And "Caliber" can be shied away directly from Sevastopol. So why do they need anti-submarine defense?

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