The Russian "saboteur" satellite is destroyed in space, according to the United States

In December 2013, Russia launched the military-grade Cosmos-2491 satellite into orbit, giving a minimum of details regarding its capabilities and mission, which led to speculation about its true purpose. This attracted increased attention among American scientists and amateurs trying to track its movement.

According to the US Air Force Project Space Track portal, ten fragments with the numbers 1329-1699 and 44912-44913, which are supposedly remnants of the Cosmos-44987 military satellite, were seen in orbit at an altitude of 44994 to 2491 km.

According to Harvard-Smithsonian astronomer Jonathan McDowell, the cause of the destruction of the device could be deliberate destruction, battery problems, or accidental collision with debris flying in space.

I am inclined to the option of an accident as a result of a collision, as I assume that the device has not been functioning for several years

- noted the scientist.

It was believed that Cosmos-2491 was part of the Level project, the implementation of which, as expected, involves the deployment of satellites capable of maneuvering, secretly inspecting or eliminating other vehicles, that is, engaged in reconnaissance and sabotage activities.

American observers believe that Russia has launched several more “saboteurs” satellites, including Cosmos-2499, Cosmos-2504, and Cosmos-2519. MacDowell explained that, in contrast to them, the destroyed Cosmos-2491 did not change its orbit and, apparently, completed its mission in 2014, continuing to remain there until its death.

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[WILL]

The title of the article is simply mesmerizing!
Well, then, presumably ... according to ... it was believed ... they think ... and apparently!
Well, just a wealth of information from a "reliable" source!
Gypsies - Fortunetellers, nervously smoking on the sidelines!

[Fat]

Quote: ANIMAL

The title of the article is simply mesmerizing!
Well, then, presumably ... according to ... it was believed ... they think ... and apparently!
Well, just a wealth of information from a "reliable" source!
Gypsies - Fortunetellers, nervously smoking on the sidelines!

Cho smoke? I need this too! To kano .. kana ... and to shreds ... It's a shame

[Uncle lee]

Quote: ANIMAL

Article title

Promising, but zero information!

[skif8013]

Quote: ANIMAL

The title of the article is simply mesmerizing!
Well, then, presumably ... according to ... it was believed ... they think ... and apparently!
Well, just a wealth of information from a "reliable" source!
Gypsies - Fortunetellers, nervously smoking on the sidelines!

including "Cosmos-2499", "Cosmos-2504" and "Cosmos-2519" and how many more spaces are there that we don’t know about ?!

[alexmach]

But how many more spaces are there about which we don’t know ?!

Apparently the goods are piece.

[skif8013]

Quote: alexmach

But how many more spaces are there about which we don’t know ?!

Apparently the goods are piece.

I don’t argue, but how many of these things I think they will not tell us.

[alexmach]

Yes, as it were, in total, Russia has about 150 devices. These are communication satellites, and "observers" -cartographers and some kind of scientific satellites. maybe 10 percent of this grouping are "fighters".

Of the total number of spacecraft of the Russian orbital grouping, more than 90 spacecraft operate in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense, that is, military spacecraft, and more than 60 spacecraft operate within the framework of the federal space program and in the interests of other ministries and departments

[Vol4ara]

Quote: alexmach

But how many more spaces are there about which we don’t know ?!

Apparently the goods are piece.

2519 minimum

[alexmach]

2519 minimum

In the entire history of Soviet and Russian cosmonautics?
Now Russia has just over 150 satellites in total.

[slipped]

Quote: alexmach

Now Russia has just over 150 satellites in total.

In order to increase their number, now the development of the landing is underway - new workshops are being built with stocks from manufacturers:

and even new satellite manufacturing plants:

and services for both launching and selling data:

and the integration of spacecraft constellations into the "Sphere" system will increase their number to over 600 spacecraft for various applied purposes.

[voyaka uh]

The largest satellite operator in the world today is fellow "crook" Elon Musk.
He has about 180 (in three launches of the same Falcon stage).
It’s about to be launched, a trickster, to launch 120 per month during 2020. The first portion (60) has already gone into orbit.
Not enough to him 300,000 sold in 2019 Tesla Model-3. Also space climbs!

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

The largest satellite operator in the world today is fellow "crook" Elon Musk. He has about 180 (for three launches of the same Falcon stage)

You can add highly specialized communication satellites the size of our satellite "Gonets". On which the crowd of astrophysicists took up arms - they seriously interfere with scientific work.

The largest operator is Planet Labs.

[voyaka uh]

"On which the crowd of astrophysicists took up arms" ///
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Astrophysicists were warned about the avalanche-like growth of Earth satellites 20 years ago. But astronomers did not believe it then. Mobile communications and the Internet were still in diapers.
All Musk can do is paint the satellites in black, which does not reflect light. Which he did. A pair of satellites in the last turn painted in black. For check.

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

Astrophysicists have been warned ....

Astrophysicists are harmless scientific people: "stars-planets, photons-protons" any presumptuous businessman strives to offend them.

[voyaka uh]

But this scientist is happy to use the Internet, BIGDATA, "clouds" and supercomputers, which are developed by presumptuous businessmen from California.
Nobody wants to continue calculations on logo lines

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

But this learned people enjoys using the Internet

and without thousands of satellites in orbit, is it?

[voyaka uh]

Bell came up with a telephone connection not to make mankind happy, but to get rich. So is cable internet and satellite communications. Google and Yandex also did not create philanthropists. Merchants become billionaires, but create certain conveniences for everyone.

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

Merchants become billionaires, but create certain conveniences for everyone.

or not convenience, as is the case with astrophysicists

[alexmach]

Astrophysicists are harmless scientific people: "stars-planets, photons-protons" any presumptuous businessman strives to offend them. laughing

So soon we should expect significant progress in the field of signal processing in astrophysics.

[axiles100682]

How much already this scrap metal flies there, both ours and not ours. Periodically spontaneously fall and collapses. Why do not spent satellites take orbit and drown?

[alexmach]

Why do not spent satellites take orbit and drown?

Because they have already "worked out" and the commands are not carried out? But in general, according to the mind, they can be put into orbit from which, with time, with the engine off, it will descend and burn up in the atmosphere. In general, they do so as far as I know.

[voyaka uh]

"Why are spent satellites not de-orbiting and drowning?" ///
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They didn’t think about it before. There were few satellites. Now, for example, SpaceX StarLink satellites have a forced descent from orbit when a satellite fails (or takes out).
Spent / deteriorated - immediately burned out.

[alexmach]

Spent / deteriorated - immediately burned out.

For 2,5 years.

[siberalt]

An article from the cycle "army fables". And as soon as they saw the serial numbers on each of the ten wrecks?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: siberalt

An article from the cycle "army fables". And as soon as they saw the serial numbers on each of the ten wrecks?

in orbit at an altitude of 1329 to 1699 km, ten fragments were observed with the numbers 44912-44913 and 44987-44994 assigned to them

All detected space objects are assigned numbers entered in astronomical catalogs. Well it is, note.
But in general, let them guess what kind of spacecraft it was and what its purpose was.

[cost]

ANIMAL (Alexey Alexandrovich) : The title of the article is simply mesmerizing! Well, then

Well, then it doesn’t matter. The main thing is that the title of the article bewitching. People picks

[dSK]

Boeing X-37. The States have gone far ahead in these technologies and have a huge advantage. In Russia, "not even a horse was lying around."

[Lord of the Sith]

Was it personally in Roscosmos or NASA that you were told?

[slipped]

Quote from dsk

In Russia, "not even a horse was lying around."

The X-37 is an expensive toy for the US Air Force - a conventional re-entry vehicle for technological operations in space. The only difference from the domestic descent vehicles of satellites of the Bion-Foton series is that it can be in orbit for a long time and carries out descent on wings, and not using a parachute. In our case, now the first is leveled by long-term technological exposure metering of materials on the outer surface of the ISS RS. And the nearest "Bion-M" No. 2 will fly with us in a year.

Using this platform is much cheaper, but the result is the same.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: slipped

The X-37 is an expensive toy for the U.S. Air Force - a normal returnable vehicle for technological operations in space.

Colleague, well, not really like that!
Reusable spacecraft X-37. Its capabilities are not officially announced, but he can launch satellites, change orbit and carry reconnaissance equipment. The possibility of landing with a cargo means that it can even steal other people's satellites.
But in a peaceful environment, such an action cannot be hidden, and it will cause an international scandal. Therefore, the Kh-37 is only "inspecting" the spacecraft so far. But on occasion, he can download BB or other "toys" for adult uncles.

[slipped]

Quote: BoA KAA

Colleague, well, not really like that!

Really?

Quote: BoA KAA

Reusable spacecraft X-37. Its features are not officially announced

Well, the military.

Quote: BoA KAA

but he can launch satellites,

Surprisingly, an ordinary rocket has been able to do this since 1957.

Quote: BoA KAA

change orbit

Many satellites can do this.

Quote: BoA KAA

and carry intelligence equipment.

Know comments.

Quote: BoA KAA

The possibility of landing with a cargo means that he can even steal someone else's companions. [/ I] [/ b]

Already abducted a lot?

Quote: BoA KAA

But in a peaceful environment, such an action cannot be hidden, and it will cause an international scandal.

BUT...

Quote: BoA KAA

Therefore, the Kh-37 is only "inspecting" the spacecraft so far.

What kind? hanging on its orbit and observed from Earth. And inspectors are other spacecraft.

Quote: BoA KAA

But on occasion, he can download BB or other "toys" for adult uncles.

BB and "other toys" can be loaded into "Progress", if desired. The question is - what for?

The devil is not so terrible as his boss.

[voyaka uh]

"The X-37 is an expensive toy of the US Air Force - a conventional reentry vehicle for technological operations in space." ////
----
Comment like "green grapes".
X-37 - continuation of the Shuttle program in an unmanned version.
And compared to it, Bion-Photon ... like the first airplanes compared to a jet.
Parachute descent - the last stage of astronautics.
In the 21st century they are planted either in an airplane or on their own exhaust, like Falcons
(and the rest are in development: the Chinese, Bezos ...).

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

X-37 - continuation of the Shuttle program in an unmanned version.

"Who are you? Eagle! Why so small? I'm sick ...." The shuttle was closed for reasons of unprofitability. And the military budget can be cut without harm to health.

Quote: voyaka uh

And compared to it, Bion-Photon ... like the first airplanes compared to a jet.

Well, if the first airplanes and jets fly at the same speed, along the same route and carry the same load, then what for a goat button accordion?

Quote: voyaka uh

Parachute descent - the last stage of astronautics.

Give parachute-jet - some advantages and practicality. The PTK NP is just that.

Quote: voyaka uh

In the 21st century they are planted either in an airplane or on their own exhaust, like the Falcons (and the rest are in development: the Chinese, Bezos ...).

Oh, you’re lying. MS Union, Shenzhou, New Shepard, Starliner, Dragon, future Gaganyan .. next list?

Returning by parachute is just one way to land and that's it. Like the return on the wings.

[voyaka uh]

"The shuttle was closed for reasons of unprofitability" ////
---
All space programs are unprofitable.
In addition to the Falcon-9 project, which was a plus.
Shuttle shut down due to disaster with human casualties.

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

Shuttle shut down due to disaster with human casualties.

This also contributed to the closure, but it was the military who began and financed this program, and as soon as it was abandoned in 1985, as it did not justify their hopes, it was handed over to NASA, which did not drag it out for long - five years and already in the early 90s they tried to cover up the program and if it were not for the Gore-Chernomyrdin Commission, which launched the MIR-Shuttle, the latter would not have existed for three decades.

[Victor_B]

What is the article about?
That we have satellites - inspectors, and is that good?
Or that one satellite collapsed and is it bad?
Or that Americans don’t like all this and it’s bad / good?
What conclusion?

[slipped]

Quote: Victor_B

What conclusion?

"Done, having spent the fuel,
All fell apart
But our two crazy brothers
picked up by the fishermen! "

[bessmertniy]

Sorry for the bird!

[slipped]

horror-horror, in the photo in the title by the way "Kanopus-V", the Russian civilian remote sensing device.

[region58]

Quote: slipped

pictured in title

So there are no real photos. Which is not surprising. Walking on the Internet picture:

but this is still a development of the USSR.
Some details can be read here:

https://vpk.name/news/280264_kosmicheskie_protivosputnikovye_programmy_cniihm.html
or here:

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3709/1
And bourgeois publication, in my opinion, appeared earlier.

Quote: Balu

I did not change the orbit, I behaved decently

That's just the point that changed. Which made our "incredible partners" nervous.

[region58]

Quote: region58

So there are no real photos.

Of course not in space photographs, but at least some sort.

[Abbot]

Quote: region58

So there are no real photos. Which is not surprising. Walks on the internet picture

Yes, what is there - this killer satellite. From the secret archives, by the way.

[slipped]

Oops, the photo in the title was changed to the rigging node of the ISS AS. But in the network there is "almost a photo" of this "killer satellite".

[NEXUS]

While spaceships plow the expanses of the universe ...

[Baloo]

I did not change the orbit, I behaved decently .... Chubais is to blame for everything.

[eklmn]

For the curious:
Google did not give any info in English about the destroyed satellite Cosmos-2491. Regarding the satellite itself, there is info with the dates 2017/18, no further. About the destroyed satellite, all finds are only in Russian, about 10 sources. Featured is the name of MIT astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell, who wrote about this on his Facebook page.
Total - Russia's search engine is stronger than Google. And even if the information about the destroyed satellite is true, then how much more interesting and interesting information will be served by our favorite media, reading our pages on social networks!
Make popcorn ...!

[Vladimir_2U]

The cause of the destruction of the device could be deliberate destruction, a battery malfunction or an accidental collision with debris flying in space.

I'm wondering, to the music from "The X-Files", why the version of the alien intervention has not been considered ?!

[antivirus]

To the Throne of Forces through the stellar vestibules,
And the royal flight was beautiful

SPACE UNDER US or under them

[Thrifty]

He was in orbit with an American spy satellite. . Tore each other to pieces !!!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Thrifty

Tore each other to pieces !!!

An option that treacherously tore our not considered? The debris of someone else's not seen ...

[rotmistr60]

I am inclined to the option ... as I guess ...

You can lean (deviate) in any direction as much as possible, but generally assume from a breadth of imagination. I suppose that sooner or later, but the United States itself will sit in one place in the sea of ​​mud that is being poured on Russia today. You might think that the Americans in space are exclusively weather satellites and communication satellites.

[Vasyan1971]

According to Harvard-Smithsonian astronomer Jonathan McDowell, the cause of the destruction of the device could be deliberate destruction, battery problems, or accidental collision with debris flying in space.

In short, the eating vegetable knows him. But what exactly is a "saboteur" is unambiguous! He was not admiring the spiers there!

[Shaman]

And not far two cosmodiversants Petrov and Bashirov sailed, admiring the cosmic landscapes.

[ydjin]

Steal satellites from orbit? But what if the self-liquidator is there?

[slipped]

Quote: honest people

Fiasco Nord Stream 2 dropped the value of Gazprom by $ 3,5 billion

Wai, me ... "Turkish Stream" and "Power of Siberia" - no, not in the know

And on the topic that is what to say?

I have - I can demonstrate to you our new geostationary communications satellite, which we, paired with another of the same in March, launch:

will you continue to worry about Gazprom?

[shinobi]

I bought it for the headline. In general, there is a clear trend. Since 60-70% read only the headlines, a persistent negative background-setting is created, everything is bad with us. We are processed according to the canons of NLP.