In Iran, a specific person claimed responsibility for a downed Boeing


President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky will issue an appeal to the nation in connection with striking a passenger airliner following the Tehran-Kiev route. Today, it should be recalled, the General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces recognized the random factor of the missile attack of the aircraft, noting that this mistake was the result of the American provocation in the region related to the elimination of Al-Quds commander General Suleymani.


Office of the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky:

President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky will appeal to the Ukrainian people in connection with the situation with the downing of an UIA plane in Tehran.

It is noted that the video message will take place after consultations of the head of state with a group of Ukrainian experts working on the site of the tragedy in Iran, international partners, as well as a telephone conversation with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, which (conversation) is scheduled for 17:00 (Kiev) on Saturday.

Meanwhile, it became known that a specific person in Iran claimed responsibility for the strike on the Boeing 737. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade.

His statement is quoted by Tasnim, an Iranian information service:

In this situation, I personally take responsibility for the fact that the Ukrainian passenger plane was unintentionally shot down in our airspace.

World media have noted the unprecedented openness of Iran, its political and military command in connection with the strike on the Boeing.
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  1. evgen1221 11 January 2020 14: 05 New
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    Learn the mattresses of democracy like real men and wars must behave!
    1. Po-tzan 11 January 2020 14: 10 New
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      Quote: evgen1221
      Learn the mattresses of democracy like real men and wars must behave!


      Well done Iranians! And then Amers circled a horse around the finger!
      1. Krasnoyarsk 11 January 2020 14: 19 New
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        Quote: PO-tzan
        Quote: evgen1221
        Learn the mattresses of democracy like real men and wars must behave!


        Well done Iranians! And then Amers circled a horse around the finger!

        How did you decide that the decent behavior of the Iranians is an attempt to circle someone around the finger?
        1. krot 11 January 2020 15: 53 New
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          All power is in truth! wink
          And for the top of the Sumerians - remember the death of our Tu-154 over the Black Sea. After all, they did not admit that they shot down by mistake!
          1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 16: 54 New
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            Why again to distribute unconfirmed information? After all, it is known that: The exercises were joint Russian-Ukrainian. Starts were made from a landfill owned by the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Russia did not object to the termination of the investigation. Putin denied the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the fall of the Tu-154. As a result, the only known fact at the present moment is that the culprit of the tragedy is not known.
            1. krot 11 January 2020 17: 08 New
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              Putin denied Ukrainian military involvement in Tu-154 crash

              When was this? Is there a video? Or another fake ..?
              After all, it is known that: The exercises were joint Russian-Ukrainian.

              And about this the first time I hear that the exercises are joint, or that ours drove equipment there for air defense! Are there arguments for the video, or are the Sumerian tales just arguments?
              Or do you think our observers at these exercises at the headquarters of the Ukrainian military reason that the exercises are joint? So we also invite NATO countries as observers to our exercises and they are not participants in them. And not all of them know what’s going on, but they’ll just be allowed to see them ..)
              1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 16 New
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                Have you fallen from the stove? Our landfill, Russian. In Crimea. Black Sea Fleet. Do you have Google or Yandex?
                1. krot 11 January 2020 17: 19 New
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                  From the stove it seems that only the Sumerians are falling. And I didn’t pass over to you! When there were exercises, in the Crimea the owners were Sumerians ..
                  Where is Putin's recognition video? Feykomety continuous!
                  1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 22 New
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                    I do not pass on to you. Just answer: Do you know how to use Yandex?
                    1. krot 11 January 2020 17: 26 New
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                      Quote: Victoria-In
                      Have you fallen from the stove?

                      And didn’t it personally concern me, madame? In my opinion, you turned to the individual .. Just like in the rest, the fake is solid ..
                      Use Yandex? Do you want to arrange personal correspondence here? Where are the facts, not the questions for me?
                      1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 29 New
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                        https://birdinflight.com/ru/mir/20161005-10-faktov-o-vzryve-tu154.html
                      2. krot 11 January 2020 17: 35 New
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                        Quote: Victoria-In
                        https://birdinflight.com/ru/mir/20161005-10-faktov-o-vzryve-tu154.html
                        Reply

                        Who is Ivan Siyak at all? )))) Who writes this .. I won’t even read .. Or is this an official of Ukraine? Open the Wikipedia and read it!
                      3. Commissar77 11 January 2020 21: 01 New
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                        What could he take a civilian aircraft for - for a cruise missile, for a fighter, maybe for a drone? It could hardly have been a Tomahawk-type cruise missile; it would not fly at an altitude of 2,5 kilometers. The speed of the aircraft was, in my opinion, 140 meters per second, fighters do not fly so slowly.

                        A drone also usually does not fly in someone else's airspace (although anything happens). In principle, if the operator had a head on his shoulders, and he slept enough and was in a fairly adequate condition, it seems to me that he should have come to the conclusion that there could be nothing but a civilian aircraft.

                        The standard algorithm for the operation of such systems is the password sent in response to a request from the ground (and these passwords, of course, change regularly), such a system may not be on civilian aircraft. Rather, I am inclined to the fact that if the Torah operators did not receive aircraft transponder signals and did not receive information from the airport about the departing sides, they might not know by default that this aircraft is “mine”. For such a case, this combat vehicle has a television optical sight that allows optical observation with target capture. If this visor worked, and the operator knew how to use it, then probably, according to the procedure, he should have seen what was flying and see the airborne navigation lights of the passenger airliner.
                      4. venik 11 January 2020 21: 30 New
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                        Quote: Military Commissar77
                        The standard algorithm for the operation of such systems is the password sent in response to a request from the ground (and these passwords, of course, change regularly)

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                        Of course, I’m not such an air defense specialist, but as far as I know, transponders on civilian sides work just on FIXED frequencies with STANDARD codes, which (unlike military aircraft) unchanging and contain information that the board - civil, type of aircraft and nationality!
                        Somewhere like that!
                      5. Spambox 13 January 2020 08: 36 New
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                        The transponder transmits a 4-digit code that the pilot sets in accordance with a useful task, there are different codes, for example, in case of a plane hijacking or loss of radio communications, the pilot can manually set the event code
                      6. venik 13 January 2020 17: 09 New
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                        Quote: Spambox
                        The transponder transmits a 4-digit code that the pilot sets in accordance with a useful task; there are different codes, for example, in case of hijacking or loss of radio communication

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                        Anton! This is exactly what I meant! drinks "Passengers" can in no way be confused with MILITARY "sides"!
                        THERE was something NOT SO !!!
            2. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 31 New
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              https://www.newsru.com/russia/04oct2001/tu154_pu.html Это слова Путина.
            3. krot 11 January 2020 17: 37 New
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              Quote: Victoria-In
              https://www.newsru.com/russia/04oct2001/tu154_pu.html Это слова Путина.

              I requested a video, not a link to fake news. The yellow press is still not writing.
      2. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 25 New
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        On the day of the crash, Vladimir Putin said that the Ukrainian air defense forces could not bring down the Tu-154 during the exercises: "According to the tactical and technical data, the weapons used at that time could not get the air corridors in which our aircraft was located." “It is possible that this was the result of a terrorist attack,” he said at a meeting with EU justice ministers.
        1. krot 11 January 2020 17: 38 New
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          Quote: Victoria-In
          “It is possible that this was the result of a terrorist attack”

          Yeah, maybe aliens ..
          1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 18: 08 New
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            Why are you laughing at Putin's words? I do not laugh at the words of your Zelensky.
        2. Tersky 11 January 2020 18: 12 New
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          Quote: Victoria-In
          On the day of the crash, Vladimir Putin said that the Ukrainian air defense forces could not bring down the Tu-154 during the exercises: "According to the tactical and technical data, the weapons used at that time could not get the air corridors in which our aircraft was located." “It is possible that this was the result of a terrorist attack,”

          On October 24, Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma verbally confirmed that the crash of the Russian Tu-154 aircraft occurred as a result of an unintentional defeat by a Ukrainian missile. "What, are we the first or the last? There is no need to make a tragedy out of it if there is any mistake. Errors happen everywhere, and not only on such a scale, but much more - planetary."
          1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 19: 00 New
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            The depth of the S-200 zone of damage: from 7 km to 200 km for early, and up to 255 km for later modifications. Does this mean something to you? Do you know the distance from Cape Opuk to the place of Tu-154 destruction?
          2. venik 11 January 2020 21: 48 New
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            Quote: Victoria-In
            Depth. C-200 lesion zones: from 7 km to 200 km for the early ones, and up to 255 km for the later versions. Does this mean something to you? Do you know the distance from Cape Opuk to the place of Tu-154 destruction?

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            Right! Absolutely right! Did you know that the technical range of a 5V28 / 5V28M rocket is about 300 km, which just corresponds to the distance to the point of destruction of the "carcass" and it fits into the version of the "retargeting" of the missile after missing the target.
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          4. the most important 11 January 2020 23: 45 New
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            Quote: venik
            But did you know that the technical range of the 5V28 / 5V28M missile is about 300 km, which corresponds to the distance to the point of destruction of the “carcass” and fits into the version of the “redirecting” the missile after missing the target.

            Who are you explaining to? He can’t be explained, there’s a song in his head. It is a well-known fact that Ukraine ACKNOWLEDGED its blame for the downed plane in front of Israel (and there were many Israelis) and paid them compensation. But about Russia did not recognize !! And no one tried in Russia (from those sitting on the thrones) to recover for the dead at least something .... This is a disgrace to the Ukrainian air defense and a disgrace to the Russian authorities for such an attitude towards their dead citizens. And for the plane blown up over Sinai avenged ??? Satanovsky has long said (and he is the smartest in the affairs of this region) that Qatar is behind the explosion, in the person of its intelligence. Well, where is the blow to Qatar ??? And for the plane shot down by the Turks, Russia builds for its (for our taxes) nuclear plant for the Turks for 25 wagons of greenery and a pipeline, and sold an air defense system for its own credit ....
          5. venik 12 January 2020 11: 18 New
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            It is a well-known fact that Ukraine ACKNOWLEDGED its blame for the downed plane in front of Israel (and there were many Israelis) and paid them compensation. But about Russia did not recognize !!

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            Alas! You're wrong!:
            ".....Ukraine in 2003 signed intergovernmental agreements with Russia and Israel on compensation for the relatives of those killed in a plane crash without legal admission of guilt. In accordance with these agreements, Ukraine paid 200 thousand US dollars for each victim - 7,8 million dollars in Russia and $ 7,5 million to Israel...... " request
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            Quote: the most important
            Who are you explaining to? He can’t be explained, there’s a song in his head.

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            I agree! At 100% !!! Try to explain something to the person who claims that "...a significant part of it (rockets) is made of floating materials ....". Interesting - from wood or polystyrene? ... This is already DIAGNOSIS !!! drinks
  • venik 11 January 2020 21: 20 New
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    Quote: krot
    And about this the first time I hear that the exercises are joint, or that ours drove equipment there for air defense!

    Quote: krot
    Or do you think our observers at these exercises at the headquarters of the Ukrainian military reason that the exercises are joint?

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    You are mistaken, Paul!
    The ONE Russian Osa complex (or Osa-AK and SKR Pytlivy (with Osa-M complexes. Osa-M), the latter, incidentally, fired on October 4 (ONE missile at a target, took part in these exercises) and struck her at a distance of 9 km from the training ground .... On this, in general, the Russian participation in the exercises ended .....
    1. krot 11 January 2020 22: 23 New
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      Quote: venik
      On this, in general, the Russian participation in the exercises ended .....

      I already said this, that joint exercises can only be called formally .. Rather, a tribute to the country where we rented Crimean bases and training grounds .. But this was not true for a long time)
  • Tersky 11 January 2020 17: 57 New
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    Quote: Victoria-In
    After all, it is known that: The exercises were joint Russian-Ukrainian.

    Not really? Exercises were held on the territory of Cape Opuk in Crimea Air defense of Ukraineattended by including foreign observers. What joint exercises are you trying to tell us about?
    Quote: Victoria-In
    Why again to distribute unconfirmed information?
    Ask this question to yourself and the command of the Armed Forces, which recognized the fact of the exercises, the actual conduct of firing in the specified area, and the loss of control over the fired missile from the combat calculation of the air defense system.
    Quote: Victoria-In
    the only known fact at the present moment is that the culprit of the tragedy is not known.
    Of course unknown yes Especially when you consider that according to the results of an official investigation of the tragedy in the sky over the Black Sea, many high-ranking military personnel of Ukraine, even if indirectly related to the downed Russian plane, "resigned". And where do we get the data from American tracking and warning systems. They immediately and without hesitation pointed to the Ukrainian origin of the rocket that shot down a plane flying out of Tel Aviv.
    1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 18: 10 New
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      The coast of Cape Opuk is the farthest range of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet of the Black Sea Fleet. Three kilometers west of the cape is an air defense force training ground.
      1. Tersky 11 January 2020 18: 25 New
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        Quote: Victoria-In
        The coast of Cape Opuk is the farthest range of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet of the Black Sea Fleet. Three kilometers west of the cape is an air defense force training ground.

        So what? Tired of repeating that exercises were held on the territory of the cape that day Air defense of Ukraine. Heaps of foreign observers were setting up another window dress for President Kuchmy. And the "troupe" was conducted by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, General of the Army Kuzmuk, with him were the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Air Defense Colonel General Vladimir Tkachev and his deputy for combat training, Lieutenant General Vladimir Dyakov, commander of the 49th Ukrainian corps, Lieutenant General Kalinyuk. Kuchma was saved only by the fact that on the eve of the "sick" (it often happened to him), and did not arrive at the training ground.
    2. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 18: 14 New
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      "data of American tracking systems and alerts" - until recently, you suggested sending such data to one place. Everything has changed ?
      1. Tersky 11 January 2020 18: 35 New
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        Quote: Victoria-In
        until recently, you suggested sending such data to one place.

        laughing Pretty hackneyed and worn-out trick from svidomity and internettroll. Victoria-V, congratulations !!! good , the drain took place.
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          1. Overlock 12 January 2020 11: 16 New
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            Quote: Victoria-In
            three minutes before the explosion, Ukrainian radar equipment was turned off

            illumination was carried out by an air defense locator from Yevpatoriya. They were just curious. The head of the S-200 grabbed the backlight.
            1. krot 12 January 2020 12: 51 New
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              "data of American tracking systems and alerts" - until recently, you suggested sending such data to one place. Everything has changed ?

              Nothing has changed! Absolutely) Striped as they missed all up to one Iran missile, and so did. They showed themselves completely in this! A bloated army designed to cut the budget. But not for real war.
    3. venik 11 January 2020 19: 58 New
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      Quote: Tersky
      Not really? On the territory of Cape Opuk in the Crimea, air defense exercises of Ukraine were held, which were attended, including by foreign observers. What joint exercises are you trying to tell us about?

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      Victor! In fact: "...From the Russian side, one battery of the Osa air defense missile system and the Pytlivy patrol ship participated in the exercises. ..... "(Dyakov V.V." Military backstage at the break of ages "). So here you are a little wrong!
  • shurik 11 January 2020 18: 57 New
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    Why again to distribute unconfirmed information? Excuse me, have you yet left the holidays ???

    The exercises were joint Russian-Ukrainian. Starts were made from a landfill owned by the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation.

    ???????
    1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 19: 16 New
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      On October 4, near the 31st Research Center of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation (Cape Opuk), exercises of the Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were held, in which the forces and means of the air defense forces of the three operational commands of the Ground Forces of Ukraine, the Naval Forces of Ukraine, the Missile Forces and artillery, as well as units of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, in particular, coastal troops and the patrol ship “Inquisitive”
      1. krot 11 January 2020 19: 29 New
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        That's what you crucify? Wikipedia open and see who shot down the Tu-154 over the Black Sea in 2001. Air defense was the Sumerians, ours only provided a training ground ..
        You write:
        in particular, coastal troops and the escort ship “Inquisitive”
        So the “Inquisitive” - “wasp” beats everything for 15 km, if they hinted at its air defense .. Or were our coastal troops equipped with air defense in 2001, capable of working for 200 km? If you hinted that we could bring him down.
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          1. krot 11 January 2020 19: 44 New
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            Quote: Victoria-In
            The following facts were established during the investigation:

            About the investigation of the Sumerians, we know how Olesya Buzina, the burning in Odessa, hundreds of your "heavens" were investigated and are still being investigated. Or Babchenko, allegedly killed by our GRU))
            Wikipedia, beloved by you, to help you, I say the same!
          2. shurik 11 January 2020 20: 50 New
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            The following facts were established during the investigation:


        2. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 19: 43 New
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          The depth of the S-200 zone of damage: from 7 km to 200 km for early, and up to 255 km for later modifications. Does this mean something to you? Do you know the distance from Cape Opuk to the place of Tu-154 destruction?
          1. musketon64 11 January 2020 20: 26 New
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            From the wreckage of Tu-154 raised from the bottom of the Black Sea, the striking elements from the S-200 were removed. Such matters, however.
  • Prisoner 11 January 2020 20: 13 New
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    Just do not lie. https://www.ufa.kp.ru/daily/26589/3605266/
  • Shelest2000 11 January 2020 19: 38 New
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    after an investigation that pleaded guilty to the Sumerians in the death of our airliner, they, the Sumerians, conducted their own "investigation", which found out that there was no objective evidence that it was their rocket. Well, their prezik, with the muzzle of the face of a strongly drinking tractor driver, issued the vile phrase "Do not make of this tragedy."
  • venik 11 January 2020 19: 51 New
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    Quote: krot
    And for the top of the Sumerians - remember the death of our Tu-154 over the Black Sea. After all, they did not admit that they shot down by mistake!

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    In fairness, it should be noted that you not quite right!:
    "...President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma acknowledged Ukraine’s responsibility for the incident and dismissed the Minister of Defense [8] [9]. During the investigation, three generals were dismissed (including Colonel-General Vladimir Tkachev, Commander of the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces) and a number of senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Ukraine in 2003 signed intergovernmental agreements with Russia and Israel on compensation for the relatives of those killed in a plane crash without legal admission of guilt. In accordance with these agreements, Ukraine paid 200 thousand US dollars for each victim - 7,8 million dollars to Russia and 7,5 million dollars to Israel. ..... "

    Just now, "dill" again raise a boom like: "We are not to blame! Nothing is proved!" etc.
  • tihonmarine 11 January 2020 21: 14 New
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    Quote: krot
    And for the top of the Sumerians - remember the death of our Tu-154 over the Black Sea. After all, they did not admit that they shot down by mistake!

    But just now a statement by Ukrainian pastor Turchinov appeared
    Ex-Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov called for blaming the collapse of the Ukrainian Boeing not only on Iran, but also on Russia
  • Simargl 11 January 2020 19: 11 New
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    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    How did you decide that the decent behavior of the Iranians is an attempt to circle someone around the finger?
    So many variants of the accusations were poached (especially for the ignorant: to poop is to cross out crosswise with the letter X, which in the Old Russian alphabet was called "her", and all other options are lack of culture and a sick imagination) ...
  • tlauicol 11 January 2020 14: 29 New
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    Quote: PO-tzan
    Quote: evgen1221
    Learn the mattresses of democracy like real men and wars must behave!


    Well done Iranians! And then Amers circled a horse around the finger!

    After several days of talking "I'm not me and not my horse"
    1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 32 New
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      Quote: Tlauicol
      After a few days of talking

      On January 8, he was shot down, and on the morning of the 11th, they recognized what few days? two days have not passed.
      1. tlauicol 11 January 2020 14: 40 New
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        Three days, and recognition would have been enough for an hour
        Quote: Pedrodepackes
        Quote: Tlauicol
        After a few days of talking

        On January 8, he was shot down, and on the morning of the 11th, they recognized what few days? two days have not passed.
        1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 47 New
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          Quote: Tlauicol
          Three days

          On January 9, the United States decided to send a representative to investigate a plane crash in Iran. On the same day, Boeing Corporation expressed its willingness to assist in the investigation.
          On January 10, the wreckage of a crashed plane was collected and taken to the hangar to reconstruct the aircraft and investigate the cause of the crash.
          those. the investigation began only on the 10th, until that time it was fortune telling on coffee grounds.
          Quote: Tlauicol
          recognition would have been enough for an hour
          recognition of what?
          1. Sky strike fighter 11 January 2020 14: 58 New
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            Confused the plane with a cruise missile.
            MOSCOW, Jan 11 - RIA News. Iran’s air defense system mistook the Ukrainian plane for a cruise missile, Amir Ali Hajizade, commander of the military space forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, said at a press conference.
            He added that the target was 19 kilometers away. The air defense system operator lost contact with the command and he made the decision to launch on his own. He had 10 seconds to decide whether to hit the target or not, and, according to Hajizade, he "made a bad choice."

            https://ria.ru/20200111/1563284980.html
            1. atalef 11 January 2020 15: 15 New
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              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              Confused the plane with a cruise missile.

              Persians Damn laughing
              As a mark for / Suleymani - over 50 Iranians died in a crush, fired at Amers - without killing and not injuring at least one, dropping a civilian line with 176 ludmies in the middle.
              Avenged so avenged laughing
              while 3 days telling tales of how amers rolled to zero laughing
              by the way
              Meanwhile, it became known thatliability for the strike on the Boeing 737 took on a specific person in Iran. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade.

              simultaneously

              The commander of the aerospace forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh withsummarized the sensational details of the attack on American bases
              “We did not set ourselves the goal of killing as many American soldiers as possible, although dozens of wounded and killed US troops were removed from the base with nine S-130 transport flights, ”said Hajizadeh.

              He declared, that Iran prepared to launch hundreds of missiles shortly after the first strike and thousands during the alleged clashes with the United States in the following days..

              muzhik laughing
              yap - yap. laughing
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              2. krot 11 January 2020 16: 00 New
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                After several days of talking "I'm not me and not my horse"

                And the Sumerians still, for more than 10 years, behave this way on the Tu-154 they shot down over the Black Sea! Why can they, but not an Iranian? Iranians are handsome in this regard! Recognized almost immediately ..
                1. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 16: 56 New
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                  Why again to distribute unconfirmed information? After all, it is known that: The exercises were joint Russian-Ukrainian. Starts were made from a landfill owned by the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Russia did not object to the termination of the investigation. Putin denied the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the Tu-154 crash. As a result, the only known fact at the moment is that the perpetrator of the tragedy is not known.
                  1. krot 11 January 2020 17: 16 New
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                    Putin denied Ukrainian military involvement in Tu-154 crash

                    When did he deny this? Have a video or a fake?
                  2. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 18 New
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                    Joint exercises for firing from ground and naval anti-aircraft missile systems were conducted at the range of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation at Cape Opuk in Crimea. A total of 23 missiles were fired. The Ukrainian authorities closed the firing sector for flights within their jurisdiction. The Siberia Airlines plane exploded and crashed in the area of ​​responsibility of the Russian North Caucasus Air Traffic Control Center, which did not prohibit the passage of passenger flights in this area.
                  3. krot 11 January 2020 17: 29 New
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                    Victoria-V, give a link to the documents, or is it your fantasy that works like that, or is your Ukrainian media disseminating this? Or documents are classified, and you alone in the know? )
            2. Nyrobsky 11 January 2020 17: 39 New
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              Quote: krot
              After several days of talking "I'm not me and not my horse"

              And the Sumerians still, for more than 10 years, behave this way on the Tu-154 they shot down over the Black Sea! Why can they, but not an Iranian? Iranians are handsome in this regard! Recognized almost immediately ..

              And not only according to TU-154. They are on the Boeing over the Donbass in denial go, in the hope that their mattresses will be covered forever.
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            As a mark for / Suleymani - over 50 Iranians died in a crush, fired at Amers - without killing and not injuring at least one, dropping a civilian line with 176 ludmies in the middle.
            Avenged so avenged laughing

            Dance on the bones and don’t forget to put more emoticons. Then be surprised why no one loves your brother in the world. Inhumans.
            1. bober1982 11 January 2020 20: 02 New
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              Quote: alexmach
              Then be surprised why no one loves your brother in the world.

              This is all because the Jews are a complex, difficult, psychological formation (according to one of the great Russian Patriarchs, Alexy I Symansky)
              Yes, the Patriarch said, of course, the Jews are horrible. How many problems with them! But think: after all, this is despite the fact that they are God's chosen, and to what end. And if God had not chosen them, then what happened? Even worse.
              Patriarch Alexy I, holder of the medal "For the Defense of Leningrad" and four orders of the "Red Banner of Labor"
          3. Dur_mod 11 January 2020 16: 04 New
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            Atalef, then you forgive me for crap in full, or do you personally the Americans report on their dead and wounded. Our former Porosyushenko, also wanted to hang a downed Boeing on Russia and shoto your laudatory mattress companions and all-knowing Israelis together made a bunch in a puddle ...
        2. Alex Justice 11 January 2020 17: 10 New
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          cruise missile flew from the airport.
      2. Aleksandr21 11 January 2020 15: 36 New
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        recognition of what?


        Are you seriously writing now? The Iranians shot down a Boeing and knew in the very first hours after this incident, senior officials and the military command for sure. But consciously they tried to drag out time and denied any involvement, but as it turned out to fake the data, it was impossible, even they could not decrypt the black boxes, and transferring it to third parties in other countries is the same as admitting guilt. Therefore, in Iran, they thought, thought, realized that there was no way to hide here and decided to confess.
        1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 15: 38 New
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          Quote: Aleksandr21
          Iranians shot down a Boeing and knew in the very first hours after this incident

          where from? Who told them? The calculation opened fire on the American object moving to the protected area and reported this. Or do you seriously believe that you didn’t decide to fill up a civilian plane specifically?
          1. atalef 11 January 2020 15: 40 New
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            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            Calculation opened fireabout the american objectmoving to a protected area and report about itл

            epic
            laughing
            American facility? belay
            And who reported? belay
            1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 15: 43 New
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              Quote: atalef
              American facility?
              And who reported?

              And where, excuse me, they launched their missiles, not at the facilities of the US Army in Iraq, from whom else would there be any answers? From the Martians? In your opinion, then who were they aiming at?
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                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                And where, excuse me, they launched their missiles, not at the facilities of the US Army in Iraq, from whom else would there be any answers? From the Martians? In your opinion, then who were they aiming at?

                in Boeing, aiming and hit.
                There was nothing else there.
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                Quote: atalef
                There was nothing else there.

                yeah, it’s easy to reason, sitting on the couch, having ready-made information
              3. Shteffan 11 January 2020 17: 52 New
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                What are you arguing about? object parameters are known? are known. the height is 2,4 km and it is gaining. speed is 400-600 km / h, EPR is like that of the B52. the question is, what’s the cruise missile here ??? WHERE? parameters to (altitude-50m, speed 800-900km / h, EPR is very small. WHICH DEBIL NEED TO BE MIXED KR AND PASSENGER BOEING ???
              4. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 21: 09 New
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                Quote: Steffan
                What are you arguing about?

                another friendship drew laughing Kind. I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft either.
                Quote: Steffan
                EPR like B52. Question - What’s the cruise missile here?

                why the cruise missile at once, maybe even bigger, in any case, the situation is nervous, there is no connection, but 10 seconds for reflection. it's good at home on the couch to talk about EPR.
              5. Shteffan 12 January 2020 11: 40 New
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                What is the nervous situation? the calculation is 30 km from the airport. They EVERY HOUR THAT ON THIS SIDE TAKES OFF AND GOES WITH A SET DIRECTLY ONE OF THEM. EVERY HOUR.
              6. Pedrodepackes 12 January 2020 12: 06 New
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                Quote: Steffan
                Are you talking nonsense,

                my young friend, you are addressed to older people and strangers rather than yelling with a caps. Or is it your after Saturday tremor in your fingers?
                Quote: Steffan
                What is the nervous situation?

                delve into the topic, young man, and then you will ask such stupid questions, but for now I will not go into useless discussions with you for
                Quote: Steffan
                Are you talking nonsense
                hi
              7. Shteffan 12 January 2020 12: 14 New
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                For you have nothing to cover. By topic. And correctly, when a person realized that he had written ravings, then the main thing is to leave the topic in time so that you don’t get any deeper into it.
              8. Pedrodepackes 12 January 2020 16: 14 New
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                Quote: Steffan
                For you have nothing to cover

                there really is nothing to cover your nonsense, and why not, because you don’t want to descend to your level.
                Quote: Steffan
                here the main thing is to move off the topic in time so as not to get involved even deeper

                well, take a rest, otherwise irreversible consequences may occur with the rest of your brain. hi
  • Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 15: 52 New
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    Quote: atalef
    in Boeing, aiming

    and between us girls, saying, do not tell WHY ?? Well, the Boeing would have been American, and there were just Persians passengers. Beat your own so that strangers are afraid? fool
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    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    Quote: atalef
    in Boeing, aiming

    and between us girls, saying, do not tell WHY ?? Well, the Boeing would have been American, and there were just Persians passengers. Beat your own so that strangers are afraid? fool

    From the Syrians learned
  • Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 16: 00 New
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    Quote: atalef
    From the Syrians learned

    so the Syrians are also random
  • atalef 11 January 2020 16: 01 New
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    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    Quote: atalef
    From the Syrians learned

    so the Syrians are also random

    To understand - to forgive
  • Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 16: 06 New
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    Quote: atalef
    To understand - to forgive

    not funny
  • sabakina 11 January 2020 16: 16 New
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    Quote: atalef
    epic laughing American facility? belay
    And who reported? belay

    An object. Atalef, stop pretending to be a girl. wink
  • Aleksandr21 11 January 2020 15: 43 New
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    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    where from? Who told them? The calculation opened fire on the American object moving to the protected area and reported this.


    And to compare the data is not fate? The calculation immediately reported the attack and the information went up, or do you think the Iranians were looking for a non-existent US plane for 3 days but did not see the fallen Boeing point-blank? When even the residents of Tehran filmed a video of a rocket hitting a plane.
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      Quote: Aleksandr21
      And to compare the data is not fate?

      and this is called fortune-telling on coffee grounds.
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      or do you think the Iranians were looking for a non-existent US plane for 3 days but didn’t see the fallen Boeing point-blank?

      and they were looking for him?
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      When even the residents of Tehran filmed a video of a rocket hitting a plane.

      and you, that on the video discerned what kind of object it was, and it became clear to you that this is a civilian Boeing? And residents, breaking their legs, rushed to the air defense headquarters to report on the situation? This video surfaced on the 10th, and even then they did not believe him, you never know where it can be photographed.
      1. Aleksandr21 11 January 2020 16: 08 New
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        Quote: Pedrodepackes
        and you, that on the video discerned what kind of object it was, and it became clear to you that this is a civilian Boeing? And residents, breaking their legs, rushed to the air defense headquarters to report on the situation? This video surfaced on the 10th, and even then they did not believe him, you never know where it can be photographed.


        Listen to the conversation is not serious, I honestly do not even want to argue, because the situation is clear to thinking people. The fact that a Boeing was shot down as a result of an error is certain, but the fact that the information did not reach the top management in the first hours, I won’t believe it. All the same, the center of the capital, and there every missile launch is monitored and the IRGC obviously quickly found out that they shot down ....
      2. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 16: 10 New
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        Quote: Aleksandr21
        Listen to a conversation not serious

        certainly not serious, really
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        information did not reach the top management in the first hours

        Quote: Aleksandr21
        I will not believe.

        your right
      3. Aerodrome 11 January 2020 17: 18 New
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        like after a "bad corporate party" ... I think ... I’ll smoke ... I’ll wait until the passions subside ... a lot of passion and a lot of presentation. let's be a little silent ..
  • tarakan 11 January 2020 17: 19 New
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    Do you know the word bureaucracy, investigation?
  • YOUR 11 January 2020 15: 14 New
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    To the Americans in 1988, it took a week to admit that they shot down the Iranian A-300. And what is surprising, the actions of the commander of the cruiser were recognized as correct, he was awarded the Legion of Honor.
    1. marshes 11 January 2020 15: 23 New
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      And what is surprising, the actions of the commander of the cruiser were recognized as correct, he was awarded the Legion of Honor.

      What did the French award him?
      1. YOUR 11 January 2020 15: 33 New
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        I agree with the criticism. I hastened to write. The order is called the Legion of Honor, a US military award given to members of the US Armed Forces as well as members of friendly states for their exceptional and outstanding services and achievements in emergency situations.
    2. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 15: 23 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      awarded the Legion of Honor.

      Did the French award him? what or all the same we are talking about the Order of the Legion of Honor
  • alexmach 11 January 2020 16: 00 New
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    Three days, and recognition would have been enough for an hour

    You are raving. It was a normal delay, at first they figured out what happened, then they gathered with courage. Nothing unusual.
    1. Alex Justice 11 January 2020 17: 20 New
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      You are raving. It was a normal delay, at first they figured out what happened, then they gathered with courage. Nothing unusual.

      Then why did they make an official statement that they had nothing to do with it? They could say that they are investigating the situation, but they haven’t lied. When they realized that they were caught, they confessed.
      1. alexmach 11 January 2020 17: 27 New
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        Then why did they make an official statement that they had nothing to do with it? Could say that they are investigating the situation, but no, they lied

        Maybe at the time of the statement they still did not know what they themselves had shot down.
  • Bshkaus 11 January 2020 14: 42 New
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    On January 8, he was shot down, and on the morning of the 11th, they recognized what few days? two days have not passed.

    Yes, only you forget that there was an air defense calculation and the people who made the fatal launch of the rocket and all this time knew for sure that they destroyed the passenger plane, but were silent, or thought that the physical disappearance of the rocket at the launcher would go unnoticed?
    1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 49 New
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      Quote: Bshkaus
      you forget that there was an air defense calculation and the people who made the fatal launch of the rocket and all this time knew for sure that they destroyed the passenger plane,

      At least one sober on this site. I’m already trying to hammer into this about a person, they think that such a large-scale incident is akin to a naughty kid in a kindergarten.
  • rich 11 January 2020 15: 06 New
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    In this situation, I personally take responsibility for the fact that the Ukrainian passenger plane was unintentionally shot down in our airspace.

    This is what a real commander should be. General’s deed respects
    1. Alex Justice 11 January 2020 17: 41 New
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      I would like to receive information from him why he decided to bring down a target that was coming from the airport.
      Perhaps he decided that the Americans had come from the airport, a military trick.
  • alexmach 11 January 2020 15: 46 New
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    Well done Iranians! And then Amers circled a horse around the finger!

    Well done, well done, well done, a couple of days preparing an answer and not a single American was injured as a result of an effective missile strike, but failed one and a half hundred of their own citizens ... By the way, the rest of the citizens of Canada and other Europe who traveled to Iran in New Year’s wounds from there.
    1. Alex Justice 11 January 2020 17: 44 New
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      But America’s authority in the world has fallen dramatically. Perhaps this outweighs the loss.
    2. Siberian 11 January 2020 20: 59 New
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      On the very first day, a list of dead passengers was published - all Arabic surnames and names.
      You’re so emotional here, well, they’ll practice and learn everything, the whole Arbish world is also very emotional. Cold calculation and many hours of thought are alien to them.
      Something else is not converging: the plane in Ukraine was delayed for an hour for a good reason - it turned out - overload! When check-in took place and luggage was loaded on board, we thought that the scales were joking? If so, each flight will be handled, how is it so different from Iranian air defense?
      1. alexmach 11 January 2020 22: 35 New
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        On the very first day, a list of dead passengers was published - all Arabic surnames and names

        The dead undoubtedly feel sorry for whatever names, which by the way, and Ukrainian also occur.
        Something else is not converging: the plane in Ukraine was delayed for an hour for a good reason - it turned out - overload

        An ordinary event, airports often delay departures.
        they will practice and learn everything

        It would be better to learn without killing your own citizens.
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    1. Krasnoyarsk 11 January 2020 14: 22 New
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      After all, for the Malaysian Boeing brought down by Russia, so no one was held responsible.

      And do you have evidence that it was Russia that shot down the Malaysian Boeing?
      1. Polkanov 11 January 2020 14: 39 New
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        ... sucking from a finger - an eka is unseen, but he didn’t try below?
        1. Cruel beaver 11 January 2020 15: 04 New
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          the question is how much lower? laughing
      2. mikstepanenko 11 January 2020 15: 18 New
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        I bring a number of facts. After this Boeing was shot down, Ukrainian artillery began to intensively "plow" the disaster area. Despite the fact that before that this patch was of no interest to anyone, the nearest militia positions on Saur-Mogile were a few kilometers away. It lasted two weeks. Why to destroy evidence? Further. The debris was taken to the Netherlands and their photos were immediately published, then these photos were deleted. The same question, why? I then downloaded hundreds of these two photos to myself, but now I don’t have them, there was a business that covered the computer with loss of information. And the photos were very interesting. Cabin cockpit, left side. Numerous shrapnel holes, still, two weeks of shelling. And a series of round holes, just the caliber of an aircraft gun. And the cockpit is all covered in blood. Nowhere else on the plane are there any traces of blood, but this is a separate conversation. And the most interesting thing was that there were NO holes of a characteristic shape from the damaging elements of the anti-aircraft missile. On the right side, the wing and the fuselage, traces of the striking elements of an air-to-air missile. These are rods with anti-aircraft missile cubes not to be confused. The wreckage was taken away, kept for a year, and then revealed to the world. Covering the cockpit, left side, there were holes from the damaging elements of the anti-aircraft missile. That is, they assembled a mock-up, brought and blew up a warhead. But they did not take into account that rockets of that type in Russia have been decommissioned for about 15 years. In old missiles, the profile of the damaging elements is an I-beam, and in some holes it is clearly imprinted. And those that have Russia have cubes. Well, they found the details with the number of the warhead in the wreckage, because it was really blown up. And then the military bureaucracy in the Russian Federation raised the archives .... and, horror, this rocket was delivered to Lviv under the Union. Then, after four years, they finally found a protector from an anti-aircraft missile at the crash site. The engine really worked (at the stand), the nozzle was burned. That's just the warhead on it did not explode, the place of its attachment to the engine is pristine. And questions for captain Voloshin. And where did he do the air-to-air missiles. He took off with missiles, returned without them. And why did such missiles hang on his attack aircraft? The excuse about the low ceiling of the attack aircraft is not accepted, an oxygen mask was enough to increase it.
        We continue. Immediately after the crash, the SBU said - we intercepted the negotiations of the terrorists in which they confess to the destruction of a civilian aircraft and we published them on YouTube. So that everyone can listen. But again, they did not take into account that on YouTube you can not only listen but also download. And carry out an examination that proved that this is an installation. And you can also see the properties of the file. Horror, horror ... it was created the day BEFORE the disaster. Who could know about her in advance? Only the organizer. They pierced quite rudely, having published this entry on YouTube two hours before the disaster.
        Continue???
        1. atalef 11 January 2020 15: 30 New
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          Quote: mikstepanenko
          I bring a number of facts. After this Boeing was shot down, Ukrainian artillery began to intensively "plow" the disaster area. It lasted two weeks.

          You’ll somehow agree among yourself, the previous commentator claimed they bombed for 2 days.
          Or maybe they didn’t bomb at all 7 And if they bombed then why did everything survive?

          Quote: mikstepanenko
          Further. The debris was taken to the Netherlands and their photos were immediately published, then these photos were deleted. The same question, why?

          Are there proofs?
          Quote: mikstepanenko
          And a series of round holes, just the caliber of an aircraft gun. And the cockpit is all covered in blood

          survived in 2 weeks of bombing? belay
          Everyone has already recognized - shot down a BUK and only you stubborn laughing
          Quote: mikstepanenko
          But they did not take into account that rockets of that type in Russia have been decommissioned for about 15 years

          proofs are there, the type of rocket is determined and again you missed
          Quote: mikstepanenko
          And those that have Russia have cubes

          there are no cubes at all, there are balls or an I-beam
          Quote: mikstepanenko
          We continue. Immediately after the crash, the SBU said - we intercepted the negotiations of the terrorists in which they confess to the destruction of a civilian aircraft and we published them on YouTube. So that everyone can listen. But again, they did not take into account that on YouTube you can not only listen but also download. And carry out an examination that proved that it is installation

          are there proofs?
          But what about the tweet of rifle 7, the same installation? wink
          Quote: mikstepanenko
          And you can also see the properties of the file. Horror, horror ... it was created the day BEFORE the disaster. Who could know about her in advance?

          like who ? Obama when in the Donbass elevators urinated
          Quote: mikstepanenko
          Continue???

          sometimes it's better to chew than talk
          1. Dur_mod 11 January 2020 16: 15 New
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            Atalef, we don’t need to shield us and Ukraine clearly shot down a hedgehog, though the truth will come up anyway and you will be ashamed.
            1. Tank hard 11 January 2020 21: 25 New
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              Quote: Dur_mod
              Atalef, we don’t need to shield us and Ukraine clearly shot down a hedgehog, though the truth will come up anyway and you will be ashamed.

              He is in the information war, and this, as Sun-tzu said:
              "War is a way of deception ..." hi
        2. Victoria-V 11 January 2020 17: 12 New
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          I do not blame or defend anyone, but why write such nonsense? If this is some kind of irony, then it is extremely inappropriate.
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          And actually where is the recording of the voice recorder? Where are the negotiations with the dispatcher?
    2. jekasimf 11 January 2020 14: 34 New
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      Dear, you are thereby claiming that:
      1. Russia sent an obsolete air defense system with decommissioned missiles to the war zone (manufactured by the USSR)
      .Well insidious!
      2.With a stupid inexperienced crew that is not able to distinguish the passenger side, with the transponder turned on, from the military.
      Well stupid!
      3. That this crew worked completely autonomously. For even civilian dispatchers in Rostov already drove this board. And the military did not recognize it and did not conduct it !!!
      Yeah. Because the communications in the Russian army are pigeon mail ...!
      4. That Russia is so stupid that it sent a BUK to Ukraine, with a radius of destruction of 75 km (modern missiles), despite the fact that the hostilities (the Saur-Graves district) were no further than 40 km from the Russian border, which means the BUK, and even more so the C 300, was completely blocked from Russian territory. And the plane was shot down at a distance of 40 km from the border.
      Why cross the border, probably in the General Staff and _d_oty are sitting!
      1. atalef 11 January 2020 14: 44 New
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        Quote: jekasimf
        Dear, you are thereby claiming that:
        1. Russia sent an obsolete air defense system with decommissioned missiles to the war zone (manufactured by the USSR)
        .Well insidious!
        2.With a stupid inexperienced crew that is not able to distinguish the passenger side, with the transponder turned on, from the military.
        Well stupid!
        3. That this crew worked completely autonomously. For even civilian dispatchers in Rostov already drove this board. And the military did not recognize it and did not conduct it !!!
        Yeah. Because the communications in the Russian army are pigeon mail ...!
        4. That Russia is so stupid that it sent a BUK to Ukraine, with a radius of destruction of 75 km (modern missiles), despite the fact that the hostilities (the Saur-Graves district) were no further than 40 km from the Russian border, which means the BUK, and even more so the C 300, was completely blocked from Russian territory. And the plane was shot down at a distance of 40 km from the border.
        Why cross the border, probably in the General Staff and _d_oty are sitting!

        I don’t know how today's case shows - anything is possible.
        Considering that the Ukrainian Boeing was shot down - from Russian-made TOR, Russian-trained personnel and received all permits and permission to conduct independent combat duty on the TOR complex - from the same Russian representatives.
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          Already said that from the TOP?
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            Quote: Krasnodar
            Already said that from the TOP?

            in any case, rocket fragments are identified as TOP
            Quote: Moskovit
            You are trying with some painful persistence to sew Russia to this tragedy

            I'm not trying to sew on.
            Just a question. Who sold the Iranians and who taught
            ?
            that issued admission to independent work?
            1. New Year day 11 January 2020 15: 58 New
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              Quote: atalef
              Just a question. Who sold the Iranians and who taught
              ?
              that issued admission to independent work?

              serious questions, require reflection ...
              1. In February 1973, a Libyan Arab Airlines Boeing 727 flew from Libyan Tripoli to Cairo. As a result of a loss of orientation, the airliner was over the Sinai Peninsula occupied by Israel. He was sent to intercept two Israeli fighter F-4 Phantom II. Israeli fighters received permission to open fire. The liner was seriously damaged and crashed on a dune during an emergency landing. Killed 108 of the 113 people on board.
              Who is to blame? - Israel or the United States, which entrusted this lethal device in the hands of inept Israelis?
              2. July 3, 1988 from the radar screens, the Iran Air 655 aircraft flying from Tehran to Dubai with landing in the coastal city of Bandar Abbas, was shot down by the American cruiser Vincennes.
              Who is to blame? - American sailors or Raytheon - an American military-industrial company, the manufacturer of the Standard-1 rocket, which fell into the hands of inept sailors?
              Quote: atalef
              Just a question. Who sold the Iranians and who taught
              ?
              that issued admission to independent work?

              serious questions, require reflection ... request
              1. Vitaly gusin 11 January 2020 18: 16 New
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                Quote: Silvestr
                In February 1973, a Libyan Arab Airlines Boeing 727 flew from Libyan Tripoli to Cairo. As a result of a loss of orientation, the airliner was over the Sinai Peninsula occupied by Israel.

                Do not pull out what you like out of context.
                He flew in side of the nuclear reactor in Demon and did not obey the Israeli Air Force aircraft.
                Quote: Silvestr
                Who is to blame? - Israel or the United States, which entrusted this lethal device in the hands of inept Israelis?

                "Inept Israelis" flew up tight to the plane, the windows were all closed, didn’t get in touch, didn’t respond to wing-waving, after a missile warning launch, he followed Israeli planes in parallel with the course to the plane’s wing, but then he sharply changed the route and got a rocket.
        2. Moskovit 11 January 2020 15: 15 New
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          You are trying with some painful insistence to sew Russia to this tragedy. Even the name of the country began to be written with a small letter. Maybe it's time for a psychiatrist? Or is it expensive in Israel?
          1. rich 11 January 2020 15: 44 New
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            Maybe it's time for a psychiatrist? Or is it expensive in Israel?

            Will refer to an industrial injury. In evidence, a listing of his comments will be attached yes The psychiatrist will take this into account and make him a discount. wink
            1. Moskovit 11 January 2020 15: 58 New
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              Oh, wei! Get a discount from an Israeli doctor?))

              I recall a joke about a Jewish mother and a terrorist. What is the difference between them? You can negotiate with a terrorist)).
        3. Abbot 11 January 2020 15: 21 New
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          Quote: atalef
          Considering that the Ukrainian Boeing was shot down - from Russian-made TOR, Russian-trained personnel and received all permits and permission to conduct independent combat duty on the TOR complex - from the same Russian representatives.

          And this is "subject to", excuse me, what is it for? Ban Russia from exporting weapons to BV? To deprive countries hostile to the United States or, say, Israel, of modern air defense systems? Well, so that no one has protection against the Air Force and cruise missiles, so that threats and attacks could dictate their will in the region. You agree to the end, do not be shy.
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            Quote: Abbot
            And this is "subject to", excuse me, what is it for? Ban Russia from exporting weapons to BV?

            no, of course, it’s even worth continuing - they will kill more of their own than enemies

            Quote: Abbot
            To deprive countries hostile to the United States or, say, Israel, of modern air defense systems?

            God with you . supply more. with such results this is welcome
            good
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            Well, so that no one has protection against the Air Force and cruise missiles, so that threats and attacks could dictate their will in the region. You agree to the end, do not be shy

            Yes, I'm not shy.
            1. Abbot 11 January 2020 15: 44 New
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              In this case, why are you pulling the country of manufacture of the air defense system to history? Training, there, tolerances and all that.
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                In this case, why are you pulling the country of manufacture of the air defense system to history? Training, there, tolerances and all that.

                Apparently he hates so much that he can no longer restrain himself ... request
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                  Let him hate, die sooner from anger wink
  • Star Destroyer 11 January 2020 14: 40 New
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    Learn the mattresses of democracy like real men and wars must behave!
    Hundreds of killing innocent people, and then making the face with a brick in every possible way deny the deed, until they are pressed to the wall with evidence, is this how “real men” behave? You have a funny idea of ​​honor ...
    I thought that, after yesterday's failures, the Lakhtins will not come out for a long time. How much I was mistaken, even such a disgrace turned into a “victory”
    1. evgen1221 11 January 2020 15: 11 New
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      Here I disagree with you. Americans for the Iranian passenger Boeing, which was shot down by mistake, the crew of the destroyer that shot down the aircraft, presented something for awards. Double standards in similar situations, it’s not visible, you don’t?
    2. Abbot 11 January 2020 16: 01 New
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      Hundreds of killing innocent people, and then making the face of the brick in every way deny the deed

      Rezanula eye is "kill hundreds." Even I don’t remember Iran for similar incidents when they felled hundreds of civilians with rockets. What can not be said about the prosecution, about the United States. These from the air killed many civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. Some facts surfaced only due to leaks, the same Snowden and Wikileaks Assange. What followed from the Pentagon? Oops, a mistake is at best. Moreover, Assange is under trial, and not the American “ups” in uniform.
  • Incvizitor 11 January 2020 15: 04 New
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    The blame is still mattresses with provocation.
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    Quote: evgen1221
    Learn the mattresses of democracy like real men and wars must behave!

  • smart ass 11 January 2020 15: 58 New
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    In fact, trump destroyed the Boeing, he launched a chain reaction
  • Thrifty 11 January 2020 16: 18 New
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    Here is the act of not a boy, but a husband! !! A real man, did not bustle, did not hide behind someone's back! This is worthy of respect! hi hi
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      Here is the act of not a boy, but a husband! !! A real man, did not bustle, did not hide behind someone's back! This is worthy of respect.
      =====
      Yes, give up. A collective decision.
  • Uncle Izya 11 January 2020 16: 19 New
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    Well, he didn’t stand at the control panel, maybe he gave the order!
    So Trump took responsibility for the elimination of the Iranian general, what does it change?
    Killed 180 people can not be returned, or do you want Poroshenko admitted for the downed plane over the Donbass?
  • den3080 11 January 2020 16: 47 New
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    Of course, tragedy and condolences to the families and friends of the dead.

    but it is also certain that Western goodwill will squeeze the maximum out of this tragedy and the Sumerians will participate in this, to the best of their ... nearness ...
    and what are the Sumerians able to “squeeze” out of this ??
    1. I believe that there is a good chance to replace those who got there earlier in the “heavenly hundred” .... well, this is ... by necessity, that is, in order to collect a hundred actually.
    I give a tooth, they try to stick.
    2. 404 will impose income tax on compensation received by the relatives of the deceased.
    3. at the household level, they will simply try to take away the compensations mentioned above (banks will mop up / breed, and atomic bandits / veterans will simply pick up the bagpipes)
  • iouris 11 January 2020 23: 21 New
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    Learn the democratic mattresses of democracy like real men

    I do not share this majority opinion, because in a civilized society, an independent court sets the blame. It seems that a decision was made in Iran, according to the well-known scheme, "to sort it out as it should, and punish anyone horribly." This suggests that in Iran, "the process has begun" (Quote: the best German ... of the year Gorbi). Thus, Trump was able to rock the situation inside Iran. The consequences will be. Who is next after Iran? AND?
  • Omskgasmyas 12 January 2020 04: 37 New
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    I redirect your appeal to grunting gilts. I think everyone was guessing who it was.
  • Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 05 New
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    Meanwhile, it became known that a specific person in Iran claimed responsibility for the strike on the Boeing 737. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade.
    But this is an act! He did not hide behind the backs of his subordinates, although he himself did not press a button and did not give a command. Our some generals as an example.
    1. Olis 11 January 2020 14: 08 New
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      All the same, these generals will have to answer. The truth will still be proved in court.
      1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 09 New
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        Quote: Olis
        The truth will still be proved in court.

        not everything comes to court
        1. Olis 11 January 2020 16: 31 New
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          He did not hide behind the backs of his subordinates, although he himself did not press a button and did not give a command. Our some generals as an example

          If these generals and the country pleaded guilty voluntarily and agreed to pay compensation to relatives, then these generals usually resign and this incident is considered to be over! And this should become law in the event of such disasters!
          There were many such cases in the world, for example, a downed plane over the Black Sea.
          But if the generals begin to bustle, if they unlock ... we were not there, it's not us and so on ..
          Then it comes to the Court, and not to the Basman International Court of Justice in The Hague!
          1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 16: 33 New
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            it comes to the Court, and not to the Basman International Court of Justice in The Hague!

            blessed is he who believes ... after the Tu-154 failed, no one went to The Hague
            1. Olis 11 January 2020 16: 48 New
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              You don’t know how to read your friend. It’s clearly said -if you pleaded guilty and paid compensation, you don’t need a court. The Hague court is needed for the most stubborn, but for them, for such a country it’s more expensive to deny what happened.
              1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 16: 51 New
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                Quote: Olis
                You are my friend do not know how to read.

                I didn’t drink on the Brudershaft
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                friend

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                if pleaded guilty and paid compensation

                and who pleaded guilty? And the compensation was paid to the relatives of the victims, but for the plane - no, and where is the Hague,
                Quote: Olis
                friend?
                1. Olis 11 January 2020 17: 12 New
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                  As far as I know, in the case of the TU-154, Ukraine paid Russia compensation for the cost of the aircraft, too, though under some other agreements. Then the relations between the countries were good. Yes and Ukraine’s air defense in Crimea only formally belonged to Ukraine.
                  Even Putin at first did not believe that the S-154 missile shot down the Tu-125, the missile’s radius was too small. Only when the United States said they had evidence, they would only show it in court if it came to court. Ukraine agreed to plead guilty.
                  This guilty plea is
                  Our some generals as an example
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                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  Quote: Olis
                  You are my friend do not know how to read.

                  I didn’t drink on the Brudershaft
                  Quote: Olis
                  friend

                  Quote: Olis
                  if pleaded guilty and paid compensation

                  and who pleaded guilty? And the compensation was paid to the relatives of the victims, but for the plane - no, and where is the Hague,
                  Quote: Olis
                  friend?

                  Not bad Alex yes
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                    Not bad,

                    Thank you!
      2. kapitan92 11 January 2020 14: 38 New
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        All the same, these generals will have to answer. The truth will still be proved in court.

        Then, following an official investigation into the tragedy in the sky over the Black Sea, many high-ranking military men who even had an indirect relation to a downed Russian plane “resigned”. Moreover, none of them was brought to justice - everyone escaped with censure. Moreover, Ukraine all this time put forward and puts forward versions of its non-involvement in the incident and, despite the results of the investigations, “pushing through” the version of the internal explosion on board a civil aircraft.

        https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201710041446-7fl5.htm?fbclid=IwAR2Phpo9lwCMUlqRpyJ09H_88Gu5BlMzmdwYbKsxE-G85kX135fwaLvcHNY

        Cynical speech by the President of Ukraine (at that time) Kuchma about a Russian plane shot down by the Ukrainian military over the Black Sea.
        1. New Year day 11 January 2020 16: 02 New
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          Quote: kapitan92
          Cynical speech by the President of Ukraine (at that time) Kuchma about a Russian plane shot down by the Ukrainian military over the Black Sea.

          no words, or rather there are many. but the moderator will not like it. It's a pity request
        2. fruit_cake 11 January 2020 16: 03 New
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          so the Maydan now accuse Russia of having shot down its plane in 2001 to blame Ukraine for this
      3. Bogatyrev 11 January 2020 17: 14 New
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        If the court, then we are talking about a crime. But for this it is still necessary to prove the guilt of this person. Those. that it was a crime, not an accident.
        In this case, all previous incidents of this kind and the practice of punishing them will be taken into account. For example, a plane sold by the Americans in the Persian Gulf. Was anyone convicted there? Etc. So here it is still VERY far from the court.
    2. evgen1221 11 January 2020 14: 22 New
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      What is ours for ours? If the Americans, then yes there is something to learn, how to be worthy of the title of defender of the country.
      1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 29 New
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        Quote: evgen1221
        What is ours for ours?

        Yes, there is an unplowed virgin soil of characters, so offhand, Rust’s landing on Red Square, the death of the Kursk submarine, with the death of the 6th company in the second Chechen, not everything is clear ... there are many examples and not only in the army, by the way, general from the economy of Chubais and the accident at the hydroelectric station. It’s as if you don’t know how we are appointed switchmen.
    3. tlauicol 11 January 2020 14: 30 New
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      Meanwhile, it became known that a specific person in Iran claimed responsibility for the strike on the Boeing 737. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade.
      But this is an act! He did not hide behind the backs of his subordinates, although he himself did not press a button and did not give a command. Our some generals as an example.

      Our all to blame the Jews
      1. Pedrodepackes 11 January 2020 14: 33 New
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        Our all to blame the Jews

        "English crap"))
    4. Star Destroyer 11 January 2020 14: 46 New
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      You might think it, someone asked what he thinks there.
      Ayatola said "find the switchman" - Homeland said "Yes."
      For three days, for some reason, conscience was silent, evidence from the crash site was successfully destroyed, and only when the leaders of the states began to directly pressure the ayatola did the general “suddenly” wake up with a sense of responsibility.
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        evidence from the crash site was successfully destroyed

        You probably know that? Personally present or told who?
  • Bshkaus 11 January 2020 14: 09 New
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    It is very sad, unfortunately, from the first minute I had no doubt that they shot down.
    We must pay tribute to the Iranians, who have found the courage to admit a mistake.
    But questions remain: delayed take-off, lack of communication ...
    Wasn't this a provocation rigged by the "Western intelligence services"?
    And the choice of flight is successful: Ukrainians are not a pity, but there are also many Iranians among passengers.
    1. Po-tzan 11 January 2020 14: 13 New
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      But questions remain: delayed take-off, lack of communication ...
      Wasn't this a provocation rigged by the "Western intelligence services"?


      Yes, suspiciously. It is necessary to check all airport staff for the fact of belonging to the State Department.
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      But questions remain: delayed take-off, lack of communication ...
      Was it a provocation?

      Rather, a fateful combination of circumstances, as with the MN-17 sad
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          I would not be so categorical. This is just your personal opinion, as well as mine above. Who was right, I hope someday it will be known.
      2. mikstepanenko 11 January 2020 15: 29 New
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        MN-17 is not a fateful combination of circumstances, but a special CIA operation. At the final stage, made by the hands of the SBU branch.
    3. Krasnodar 11 January 2020 14: 52 New
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      Quote: Bshkaus
      It is very sad, unfortunately, from the first minute I had no doubt that they shot down.
      We must pay tribute to the Iranians, who have found the courage to admit a mistake.
      But questions remain: delayed take-off, lack of communication ...
      Wasn't this a provocation rigged by the "Western intelligence services"?
      And the choice of flight is successful: Ukrainians are not a pity, but there are also many Iranians among passengers.

      By the way, I, on the contrary, thought that the Persians were out of business. To shoot down an airplane on landing - you can still understand - they took it with a fright for a rocket, for something else, but on takeoff ??
      1. LiSiCyn 11 January 2020 15: 06 New
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        Now much will depend on the decryption of the flight recorders. If the board began to turn before the rocket hit, then perhaps there was a place to be a provocation. If after, then the Persians, rigidly lohana. hi
        1. Krasnodar 11 January 2020 15: 09 New
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          Hi Stas!
          If there was a U-turn with a sharp decline - then yes, they might have thought that the board was captured.
          In any other situation, given the climb to the plane - trash
          1. Rusland 11 January 2020 15: 22 New
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            Stas, Krasnodar good health hi They also screwed that self-roll, it would be difficult to light up the pipe of the world and pass it around, who has a cough, who has eyes to fly out, and someone just, sorry PUKNET. yes
          2. LiSiCyn 11 January 2020 15: 35 New
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            "Brothers" say that the second missile hit the cockpit, so there was no SOS signal. The first, it’s like it’s hit the engine, the video clearly shows the ignition of kerosene. But was there a second?
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              What is the difference? Typically, at least 2 missiles are fired at one target
              1. LiSiCyn 11 January 2020 16: 01 New
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                What's the difference?

                Iran does not exclude the version that Boeing’s control was intercepted from outside ... He tried to change course, and then, the human factor worked.
                1. Krasnodar 11 January 2020 16: 06 New
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                  Stas, this is from the realm of science fiction. Interception of aircraft control and more. That is, the existence of such a Technology is possible, but to disclose it under such circumstances - who needs it ..
      2. Moskovit 11 January 2020 15: 21 New
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        I thought so too. Not because of the great love for Iran, but because of the illogicality and absolute unnecessaryness of this catastrophe for Iran. But it is clear that life is making its own adjustments. Surprisingly, the Iranians in a confrontation fully admitted guilt.
        1. Krasnodar 11 January 2020 15: 31 New
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          Because good chess players - would fall for a lie - it would become worse.
    4. New Year day 11 January 2020 16: 09 New
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      ... Ukrainians are not sorry, but among the passengers there are many Iranians.

      it smelled like fascism! All feel sorry for the innocently killed

      Crew commander Vladimir Gaponenko, there were 2 daughters.
      or

      Flight attendant Maria Mikityuk.
      Really, don't you mind?
      1. Rusland 11 January 2020 16: 21 New
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        Well, what is fascism? No need to escalate hatred in society, do you need pictures of those who died in the Donbass with their family photos? Remember and not condemn everyone. hi
        1. Krasnodar 11 January 2020 16: 44 New
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          I agree, condolences to the families of the victims
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          No need to escalate hatred in society,

          I agree with you completely, but I can not agree with ...
          Quote: Bshkaus
          ... Ukrainians do not mind

          so...
          Quote: Rusland
          Remember and not condemn everyone.
          hi
          1. Rusland 11 January 2020 17: 41 New
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            I agree with you hi It’s bad that we begin to poke around in semantic and political turns in our posts, and every extra word kills, and a dot and a comma are finished. yes
            1. New Year day 11 January 2020 17: 47 New
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              at the same time, every extra word kills, but I finish the point and comma

              I fully support!
              How easy, crazy to quit the Word.
              Word, word bullet - that instantly,
              If in the forehead - then death.
              If in the heart it’s methyl, it’s not always fatal,
              But harder to live with a wound, believe me.

              The wound hurts and bleeds
              And even hurt when not from the enemy,
              And from a close, dear, by the way,
              Even if it was hot applied.

              The word kills and cripples
              Brings Victory, Joy and Peace.
              The word - heals better than doctors
              If sincere, it is said with a soul.

              The word inspires, gives strength,
              Word, Word ...
              In it is the Great Magic Power!

              Dzhumagalieva N.I.
  • Odysseus 11 January 2020 14: 10 New
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    Amazing people of Iranians. It is clear that in any case they would have been guilty and convicted in Western courts, but bluntly and openly, we are to blame ... I don’t remember that
    Of course, in this case it is necessary to recognize the correctness of the West and those who supported their version. Here they were right.
    1. Alex Justice 11 January 2020 18: 12 New
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      In general, Iranians are more honest than Russians. Their mentality will not be allowed to lie. Watch great Iranian movies.
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        Krasava, why only more honest !? Nobler, smarter, stronger, more tender, sincere, etc. etc. laughing
  • Shooter22 11 January 2020 14: 11 New
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    Learn the clown (Zelensky), what to do! For the downed Tu-154 still officially piss apologize! The gut is thin!
    1. Errr 11 January 2020 15: 03 New
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      One can also recall the ditching of the Airbus A300B2-203 of Iran Air by an anti-aircraft missile launched from the side of the "brave" American missile cruiser of the Ticonderoga type USS Vincennes (CG-49) on July 3, 1988. 290 innocent victims and no remorse from the United States. Moreover - later the cruiser commander was awarded the Legion of Honor order for his successful service from 1987 to 1989. So the freaks have someone to take an example from.
  • paul3390 11 January 2020 14: 11 New
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    Well - very worthy. Causes only respect.
  • hhhhhhh 11 January 2020 14: 16 New
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    Very suspicious.
    Maybe this is the same recognition as Gaddafi for the plane for which he was not to blame?
    1. Kronos 11 January 2020 14: 19 New
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      Why did you decide that you weren’t?
      1. hhhhhhh 11 January 2020 14: 47 New
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        Read the memories of American intelligence.
        Draw conclusions.
        By the way, what plane are you talking about? ... If it’s profitable, they will admit. If they can never recognize.
  • Old26 11 January 2020 14: 19 New
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    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    Meanwhile, it became known that a specific person in Iran claimed responsibility for the strike on the Boeing 737. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade.
    But this is an act! He did not hide behind the backs of his subordinates, although he himself did not press a button and did not give a command. Our some generals as an example.

    Unlike the parallel branch, I agree with you here. The statements of the commander of the ACS of the IRGC are really an act. Although a few days the excuses of the Iranian side still left a residue
    1. Avior 11 January 2020 15: 08 New
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      The calculation knew in a minute that Thor’s range was a maximum of 12 km, so they even observed visually both hit and fall of the liner, it reached the commander a maximum of half an hour later, taking into account the situation
      He admitted after three days, when the whole world spoke about it.
      Prior to that, I listened calmly as they talked about technical damage.
      hi
  • Chingachguk 11 January 2020 14: 19 New
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    For some reason, there was a feeling that this commander was no longer in Iran and was broadcasting from somewhere in the west. A certain semblance of Rodchenkov ...... And already in the ears of the statement of the US State Department about 100% guilt of Iran. I recall the investigation of the Dutch Boeing.
    1. Shahno 11 January 2020 14: 23 New
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      Ok let the statement make
    2. 75 Sergey 11 January 2020 14: 24 New
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      They shook the air for what they themselves admitted, but we directly accused the amers.
      But somehow so ?! Can’t you see what the fuck is flying?
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        That's just the point, that is visible! But to a specialist, not a monkey.
    3. evgen1221 11 January 2020 14: 25 New
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      Navryatli from the west was broadcast by the commander. In his homeland in Iran, he is like Christ's bungle, in the west he will meet Berezovsky’s scarf with love.
      1. asv363 11 January 2020 14: 59 New
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        Not sure how the question can be resolved:

        Rukhani announced the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the crash of the Ukrainian plane
        https://ru.irna.ir/news/83628959/
  • knn54 11 January 2020 14: 22 New
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    -Alex: not everything comes to court.
    The commander of the American cruiser was awarded for the downed Iranian airliner (1988), going on a landing.
    -Bshkaus: ... flight delay.
    WHY (like the rest) have not been canceled ???
  • 75 Sergey 11 January 2020 14: 23 New
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    The Iranians crap one's pants to the fullest, they could say right away, but they are now behaving with dignity.
    And I thought the Americans were sanding.
  • zxc15682 11 January 2020 14: 25 New
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    Well, now, one person will pay the legal claims. Not the state. They came up with it right.
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  • Shahno 11 January 2020 14: 38 New
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    Well done. Man.
    This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade.
    Will live long.
    1. marshes 11 January 2020 14: 53 New
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      Well done. Muzhik. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade. He will live long.

      It’s good that they don’t have nuclear weapons, otherwise they would have a zvezdets. Probably the IRGC would be responsible for nuclear weapons.
  • Jack O'Neill 11 January 2020 14: 42 New
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    Iran flunked civilian liner, 176 person! Iran well done!
    And it was only necessary to plead guilty after a few days otmaz "Iran rejects allegations of Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile strike".
    He killed 176 people, confessed and everything was forgiven ... However, you are interesting people ...
    1. loki565 11 January 2020 14: 49 New
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      Well ... The Americans shot down an Iranian passenger plane, Ukraine shot down the Tu 154 ... how are they all forgiven or not?
      1. Jack O'Neill 11 January 2020 15: 34 New
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        Well ... The Americans shot down an Iranian passenger plane, Ukraine shot down the Tu 154 ... how are they all forgiven or not?

        And where are the Americans?
        1. loki565 11 January 2020 15: 43 New
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          Despite the fact that the Americans shot down an Iranian passenger plane confusing it with the military and what are the consequences for them ???
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            Despite the fact that the Americans shot down an Iranian passenger plane confusing it with the military and what are the consequences for them ???

            And does this mean that Iran can afford to bring down civilian airliners in response type?
            1. loki565 11 January 2020 15: 47 New
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              This means that for Iran there will be the same consequences as for the USA, no more and no less
              1. Jack O'Neill 11 January 2020 15: 56 New
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                This means that for Iran there will be the same consequences as for the USA, no more and no less

                Okay And this is what you wanted to say on my first comment or what? Commenting that the Iranians radishes, they killed 175 people. For several days, the Iranians otmazyvatsya, like not they, but when pressed, they admitted.
  • Mik1701 11 January 2020 14: 42 New
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    Purely hypothetical, what would happen if the missiles of "potential allies shot down the Russian airliner again?" (God forbid!)
  • A hundred 11 January 2020 14: 46 New
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    My two comments are deleted .. Well oh well, dance demons!
    And remember the downed Boeing-Donbass, then our Il in Syria ..
    All gentlemen do not buy
    Hold on Iran and the Kremlin too soldier
    Beautifully taken away from the murder of the general .. Well, well
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      Quote: Hundred
      My two comments are deleted .. Well oh well, dance demons!
      And remember the downed Boeing-Donbass, then our Il in Syria ..
      All gentlemen do not buy
      Hold on Iran and the Kremlin too
      Beautifully taken away from the murder of the general .. Well, well

      Well, Vitaly pulled himself up.
      Vitaly, you sleep for a long time, you will miss the whole war wink
      1. A hundred 11 January 2020 15: 12 New
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        Vitaly, you sleep for a long time, you will miss the whole war

        I am always on time .. It’s you who kindle her Atalef!
        Rejoice for now, yours has taken and again framed civilians ..
        How much blood do Israel need for you to calm down?
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          Quote: Hundred
          Rejoice for now, yours has taken and again framed civilians.

          we belay
          Vitalik, you need to drink less.
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            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Hundred
            Rejoice for now, yours has taken and again framed civilians.

            we belay
            Vitalik, you need to drink less.

            Hawthorn? he he
            Ah Atalef, what you started in Israel, the world can again explode into the blood .. Why do you need this? Well, take off the interest and that is not enough for all of you to retire and the Internet .. hehe
          2. Dym71 11 January 2020 16: 15 New
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            Quote: atalef
            we belay

            Why are you surprised? You yourself accuse us of all serious, so you began to lay behind the collar? Hag Sameah! bully
            Quote: atalef
            Vitalik, you need to drink less.

            Alexander, did you bring him to say so?
  • Egor 11 11 January 2020 14: 50 New
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    Iranian politicians have a mind, honor and conscience.
    This is so exotic ... I mean, unusual. An irresponsible woman was expected: well, prove it, come on, not we, but we can repeat it.
  • frizzy 11 January 2020 14: 54 New
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    Zelensky will declare war on Iran in his appeal to the people. He will remove Natsik from Donbas in the direction of victory☻
    1. yfast 11 January 2020 22: 23 New
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      It would be nice, after 6 years of war with Russia, these are now bending Iran.
  • alien 11 January 2020 14: 56 New
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    Deuce to the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade. With 100% operational readiness, all civilian flights should have been at least canceled. And even we shoot down drones and civilian planes fly ...
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      Quote: Alien
      Deuce to the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade. With 100% operational readiness, all civilian flights should have been at least canceled. And even we shoot down drones and civilian planes fly ...

      Kamrad, honestly, did not want to comment in this thread, but such statements are starting to start.
      Some especially gifted writers of the comments above.
      Boeing was shot down at the time of the launch of missile strikes on American bases! Please remind who is up to the state
      Iran, decided on this without being at war?
      Such I look all smart, brave, honest though sofa.
      Iran was on the verge of a great war and they really, even if they knew, was not up to the Boeing.
      1. atalef 11 January 2020 15: 46 New
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        Boeing was shot down at the time of the launch of missile strikes on American bases!

        sure ?
        The attack on the bases was at one in the morning (Iran attacked the US air base in Iraq ... that the attack on the American base was carried out at about 01:20) Boeing was shot down
        Boeing 737-8KV (board UR-PSR) operated an international flight PS-752 from Tehran to Kiev. IN 02:42 UTC [23] (06:12 local time),
        An hour has passed 20 minutes
  • Shahno 11 January 2020 14: 56 New
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    Quote: Shahno
    Well done. Muzhik. This is the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC Amir Ali Hajizade. He will live long.

    It’s good that they don’t have nuclear weapons, otherwise they would have a zvezdets. Probably the IRGC would be responsible for nuclear weapons.

    Well, yes. If that, what a threat, they themselves know, destroy.
    We will not bring to civilian liners.
  • Gennady Fomkin 11 January 2020 15: 08 New
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    If it is true that Iran shot down an airplane, then in this case with Ukraine, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) is clearly to blame, which did not prohibit flights over the conflict zone. Most airlines have already introduced this rule.
  • Livonetc 11 January 2020 15: 10 New
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    Confused the plane with a cruise missile.
    MOSCOW, Jan 11 - RIA News. Iran’s air defense system mistook the Ukrainian plane for a cruise missile, Amir Ali Hajizade, commander of the military space forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, said at a press conference.
    He added that the target was 19 kilometers away. The air defense system operator lost contact with the command and he made the decision to launch on his own. He had 10 seconds to decide whether to hit the target or not, and, according to Hajizade, he "made a bad choice."

    https://ria.ru/20200111/1563284980.html

    A factor was also imposed of an unplanned Boeing rotation of 180 degrees in the absence of communication with the dispatcher.
  • parusnik 11 January 2020 15: 14 New
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    We must pay tribute to Iran ... In a special intent, it will be difficult to blame ...
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      We must pay tribute to Iran ... In a special intent, it will be difficult to blame.

      oops, we are not on purpose. laughing
      One must be complete diplodocus to do this on purpose.
  • Narak-zempo 11 January 2020 15: 16 New
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    In Iran, a specific person claimed responsibility for a downed Boeing

    Party ayatollah said, "It must be!" - Komsomol the general replied "Yes!" laughing
  • golem 11 January 2020 15: 21 New
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    And yesterday I heard that these were fiction of the West
    1. rocket757 11 January 2020 15: 45 New
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      And yesterday they said that we had to wait for the conclusions of the investigation, and to all.
    2. alien 11 January 2020 15: 46 New
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      You see, when the evidence is there, it was provided by the Americans within 2 days. And when there is no evidence (Malaysian Boeing)? Then there is no data from Ukrainian radars, there are no records of conversations of Ukrainian dispatchers, there are no satellite images of the United States ... Or is this evidence not satisfactory for the United States?
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        Quote: Alien
        You see, when the evidence is there, it was provided by the Americans within 2 days.
        Where are they provided? It was publicly said that they are there, that people related to the investigation of the disaster, and some officials, were acquainted with them. All in one as in the story of the Malaysian Boeing, where the United States то же самое done. What's the Difference?
    3. Semurg 11 January 2020 16: 13 New
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      Quote: golem
      And yesterday I heard that these were fiction of the West

      The Iranians provoked the Americans for a long time, then received an answer in the form of a liquidated general. Gained up and banged on American bases warning them about this for a couple of hours. Then they sat down on the defensive with a fright, blocking a plane flying out of their capital airport. But the US bastards never showed up for war.
    4. Dym71 11 January 2020 16: 18 New
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      Quote: golem
      And yesterday I heard that these were fiction of the West

      But do they never tell a trick to believe their word?
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      And the editorial about it was and 2/3 of the colleagues were sure of it
  • rocket757 11 January 2020 15: 44 New
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    Someone has an iron Faberge ...
    Let's see what happens next.
  • Pacifist 11 January 2020 15: 59 New
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    Strong. A real man. Liberal tolerasts do not understand this, and even more so to the skakuas. Until now, they pretend that they are not in the business of the downed TU-154 and the Malaysian Boeing.
  • Old26 11 January 2020 16: 00 New
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    Quote: atalef
    we belay
    Vitalik, you need to drink less.

    Or more. Vitalik in his repertoire. As Yevgeny Damantsev is recognized by his articles, so Vitaly by his posts

    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    If it is true that Iran shot down an airplane, then in this case with Ukraine, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) is clearly to blame, which did not prohibit flights over the conflict zone. Most airlines have already introduced this rule.

    Gennady! And what, the territory of Iran is a conflict zone? After all, it was not over Syria that the Boeing was shot down, and not over Iraq, but a few kilometers from the state’s capital, which is not at war with its neighbors.
    So ICAO is not in the business here. Unlike Iran’s air defense

    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    Confused the plane with a cruise missile.

    Yes, to confuse a cruise missile with a passenger Boeing - this must be known ...

    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    do you read before writing your comments? How did I know the air defense calculation that I shot down a civilian airliner? Did he shoot sparrows from a slingshot?

    Alex Well, tell me how you can confuse an aircraft with a length of 40 meters and a wingspan of about 35 meters (what a flare on the radar) with any US fighter (F-15, F-16, F-22, F-35) or with an unmanned reconnaissance aircraft. Or what, while Pvoshniki they are zero? After all, there was no interference; EW did not work against air defense, and confusing a passenger plane with a fighter, a drone, and even more so with a cruise missile was beyond understanding. The question is asked, what will Iran’s air defense do if God forbid a conflict with the United States occurs and the US aviation will work against them using REP, trap missiles and anti-radar missiles. What then will they destroy if, under normal conditions, the operator confused a passenger plane with no one knows what?
    But the "target" on the radar was not 10 minutes, not 20, not an hour. She appeared a few minutes before, was walking from the airport with a climb and a transponder turned on ... That is, the air defense crews are not competent at all in their business?
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      Thought it was a B-52?
  • Aliken 11 January 2020 16: 19 New
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    As the Prophet (sas) said, a Muslim can be stingy, can be cowardly, but he cannot be a liar.
  • Lexeus 11 January 2020 17: 39 New
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    Yeah, it's not the Ukrainians who shot down the Malaysian Boeing.
  • Astra wild 11 January 2020 17: 50 New
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    INCREDIBLE: the general admitted his guilt. On the one hand, it is worthy of respect: a real officer admits his guilt. But then I had questions: 1) WHY did they immediately deny and could not recognize?
    The second is not even a question, but a fright: "the unprecedented openness of Iran, its political and military command," remember how the "perestroika and glasnost" ended? You all know well about the "color revolutions" and who suits them.?
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    Are there any specialists here? Enlighten the amateur.
    How, by what signs, does an air defense system distinguish a passenger Boeing from a cruise missile? Especially if a transponder should work on an airplane? They don’t believe him?
    And even if you do not take into account the transponder, then the signal from the plane should be different from the signal from the rocket? The nature of its movement (unambiguously in a straight line it gains height)
    In general, how realistic is such a mistake? How much does the technique make it possible to recognize the goal and how much is the person able to adequately perceive the situation?
    1. TT62o 12 January 2020 01: 01 New
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      The transponder for the air defense system Tor does not play any role (this is both analog and digital TV). Iran was expecting an answer, so it placed these zrk near the capital. The signal is different and different. The main thing is what calculation set the task, how did they organize the interaction of the military air defense and air defense (and whether it was organized). Since they had been brought full BG, the calculation of the TOP could have the task of bringing down all the strangers in its affected area.
  • Orakul2000 11 January 2020 19: 26 New
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    The Iranian regime, of course, is hostile to us, but this man’s deed is certainly noble. It is a pity that the whole phrase of the commander of the Air Force of Iran is not given in the article, but it does convey a much stronger state of mind and repentance of this person. The whole phrase sounds like this: “In this situation, I personally take responsibility for the fact that the Ukrainian passenger plane was accidentally shot down in our airspace. I would rather die than see the accident” That's right, humanly honest and open.
  • alien 11 January 2020 20: 55 New
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    In this situation, I personally take responsibility for the fact that the Ukrainian passenger plane was unintentionally shot down in our airspace

    The Americans purposefully killed Suleymani, and the Iranians aimlessly shot a civilian plane ... with their citizens. For Trump, probably - "everything is fine."
  • Uran53 11 January 2020 23: 20 New
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    Strong man! Respect!
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    World media have noted the unprecedented openness of Iran, its political and military command in connection with the strike on the Boeing.

    - for several reasons.
    First, they do not want to give an additional reason for the voices calling for the bombing of Iran, which are already enough.
    Secondly, those who died in the majority are former Iranians, and disrespect for their families in Iran will give an extra reason for protests, of which there are so many.
    Thirdly, they really pinned to the wall; in the 21st century, when a day goes by, as locals publish rocket fragments on the Internet, such things cannot be hidden. Actually, Russia's fault in the downing of a Malaysian aircraft is for this reason obvious to everyone in the world. All other versions are for Russian domestic consumption, as a simple excuse for ignorant people, and as a psychological protective mechanism for those who doubt that their beloved homeland is always right, so it cannot bring down a plane in a foreign country, killing innocent people.
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      Quote: iuocsfyu
      Actually, Russia's fault in the downing of a Malaysian aircraft is for this reason obvious to everyone in the world.

      “Obviously” is not something that “can be seen”, but something that can be proved by first demand. Not obvious. In the latter case, too. If the general had not been killed, everyone else would have been alive.
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        “Obviously” is not something that “can be seen”, but something that can be proved by first demand.

        - No. This is exactly what the eyes see. I personally, in real time, read articles with the bragging of the Ligandian "Girkin" and co. shot down by an airplane, and watched how they were shamefully erased from all Russian-language media. The whole world has seen it. And to prove something to someone on demand is not always required, even in court. And certainly not on some forum on the Internet.

        Quote: iouris
        If the general had not been killed, everyone else would have been alive.

        - An imaginary logical connection "After that - it means because of this." The usual, for paid office patriots, logical trick, in which a causal relationship is identified with a chronological one.

        “After” does not mean “due to.”
        The United States decided to eliminate the General. The decision to fire the plane was made by Iran. All attempts to link a downed plane with a killed general are attempts by the criminal to justify the crime by the fact that others also commit crimes. This nonsense is recognized once or twice and does not channel anywhere.
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          Quote: iuocsfyu
          paid office patriots

          Why are you working for free?
          1. iuocsfyu 12 January 2020 13: 36 New
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            Quote: iouris
            Why are you working for free?

            Got 11.80 - go to the curator for soldering and you can continue to jump.
            I'm not interested in you.
  • Oleg Zorin 12 January 2020 16: 57 New
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    Oh my god how many in the comments
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    Not a “man”, but a leader (function), and took political responsibility, not blame.
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    And the non-men from the non-brothers still talk on UkrTV, sho it wasn’t it that shot down the Tu-154 S200y!
  • Kostadinov 13 January 2020 10: 16 New
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    Quote: Military Commissar77
    If this visor worked, and the operator knew how to use it, then probably, according to the procedure, he should have seen what was flying and see the airborne navigation lights of the passenger airliner.

    A US cruiser shot down an Iranian passenger plane in the afternoon, in sunny weather, when the cruiser commander could see the name of the airline through binoculars.
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    Quote: Astra wild
    But then I had questions: 1) WHY did they immediately deny and could not recognize?

    What does it mean right away? 48 hours is almost "immediately" to investigate such an incident.