Dutch Foreign Ministry: Most likely, the plane was shot down by Iranian missiles


On social networks, with bitter irony, they said that the Dutch side had not yet spoken about the disaster of the Ukrainian Boeing in Iran. And now - the Netherlands really decided to present its position on this issue, although it is difficult to understand how this country has anything to do with what happened under Tehran.


Dutch Foreign Minister Stef Blok said before the meeting with colleagues from other EU countries that "the Netherlands supports the US version." Who would doubt that.

From a statement by the Dutch Foreign Minister, Mr. Blok:

We believe, with a high degree of probability, that the plane was shot down by Iranian missiles.

The phrase "with a high degree of probability" Steph Blok did not specify. He did not specify, by Dutch standards, how much is it likely? For example, 10% will do? Or 30%? Or is it necessarily 80-90%? In this case, why investigate if the percentage calculations on the part of Mr. Blok are sufficient.

Recall that the plane of the Ukrainian airline UIA crashed a few minutes after taking off from the airport of Imam Khomeini in Tehran. The board began to fall at an altitude of 2,4 thousand meters. On the record that appeared on the network, one could see the flame that swept the plane during its fall.

Previously, other US satellites: Australia and Canada decided to support the "American version" of "Iranian missiles". At the same time, Canada’s interest can still be understood: on board the Boeing were its citizens, but what about Australia? Or did the person who shot the plane’s crash on the cell phone’s camera arrive in Iran from the Green Continent ... to “stream” from the scene, “predict” the tragic events?

In fact, all this pro-American camarilla, having decided on the guilty, has already snapped up: the same type of information war stories that are being thrown on the air without being supported by at least some evidence base - and after that they want to conduct a pragmatic dialogue with the same Iran. ..
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  1. Sergey39 10 January 2020 17: 38 New
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    Now there will be someone who quickly expresses support for the version of undemanding evidence.
    1. Dmitry Donskoy 10 January 2020 17: 42 New
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      And for the Dutch, the dose and percentage probability are directly proportional. fellow
      1. cniza 10 January 2020 17: 56 New
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        Quote: Sergey39
        Now there will be someone who quickly expresses support for the version of undemanding evidence.


        The world turns into an attraction of curved mirrors ...
        1. carstorm 11 10 January 2020 18: 18 New
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          Yes, it has long been developed. rocket attacks for show off between countries shot down aircraft with a high degree of probability missiles poisoning people with deadly poisons that are then alive and well. the world has become an attraction of stupidity and ignorance. that the crappiest viewers then believe ...
          1. cniza 10 January 2020 20: 46 New
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            The fact of the matter is that many are underway ...
            1. hydrox 10 January 2020 21: 16 New
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              No, but is this slashak a member of the IAC?
              Then let him put his opinion in a famous place, preferably printed on cardboard ... angry
          2. donMigel 11 January 2020 07: 52 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            the world has become an attraction of stupidity and ignorance. that the crappiest viewers then believe ...

            Iran has already admitted that it brought down.
        2. Abbot 10 January 2020 18: 30 New
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          The statement of this Block from the category of "anyhow blurt out."
          1. Major Yurik 10 January 2020 19: 16 New
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            Quote: Abbot
            The statement of this Block from the category of "anyhow blurt out."

            Yeah, in the country of the victorious cannabis, the "third eye" always opens up to analyze aircraft crashes, especially after a smoke break! fool
            1. cniza 10 January 2020 20: 52 New
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              Quote: Abbot
              The statement of this Block from the category of "anyhow blurt out."


              What did you mean ? or just like that?
        3. aszzz888 11 January 2020 01: 50 New
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          cniza (Victor) Yesterday, 17:56
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          Quote: Sergey39
          Now there will be someone who quickly expresses support for the version of undemanding evidence.


          The world turns into an attraction of curved mirrors ...

          Banter, show off and toadiness in one Dutch bottle (in self-grooming laughing , a jamb)! Victor, hi !
        4. Nikolay Ivanov_5 12 January 2020 14: 12 New
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          Quote: cniza
          The world turns into an attraction of curved mirrors ...


          Captain obvious
      2. Black_Vatnik 10 January 2020 17: 59 New
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        In Europe, the highly likly method has been developed and successfully implemented.
        Highly Likeley Skripaley was traumatized by GRUSHniki, Putin’s personally shot down Hiley Likely Boeing in the Donbas, Iranian Hiley Likes destroyed the plane, all Russian spot athletes take Hiley Likely dope. And most importantly, there is no need to prove anything. And the presumption of innocence, if you are not one of the lucky ones who were born west of Poland and the Balkans, quickly turns into a presumption of guilt. And try after this to prove that you are not a peacock.
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          1. Grandfather 10 January 2020 18: 59 New
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            Dutch Foreign Ministry: Most likely, the plane was shot down by Iranian missiles
            drug addiction came to life ....
        2. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 20: 33 New
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          Quote: Black_Jacket
          And the presumption of innocence

          The presumption of innocence, this is the "Lynch Court."
        3. 16329 10 January 2020 22: 58 New
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          In the West, there is no presumption of innocence even for one’s owns, there are corporate directives, squealing, reverse laws, direct application of the US Criminal Law in Europe, etc.
        4. aszzz888 11 January 2020 01: 54 New
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          Black_Jacket Yesterday, 17:59
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          In Europe, the highly likly method has been developed and successfully implemented.
          Highly Likeley Skripaley was traumatized by GRUSHniki, Putin’s personally shot down Hiley Likely Boeing in the Donbas, Iranian Hiley Likes destroyed the plane, all Russian spot athletes take Hiley Likely dope. And most importantly, there is no need to prove anything. And the presumption of innocence, if you are not one of the lucky ones who were born west of Poland and the Balkans, quickly turns into a presumption of guilt. And try after this to prove that you are not a peacock.

          Yes. Especially when by conspiracy of persons, by dementia, by fawning. We would have to somehow hammer this all and pursue our own policy, without looking into the mouth of Dr. Sam.
      3. TermNachTer 10 January 2020 21: 31 New
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        Well, so the investigation into the death of the Malaysian Boeing was completed. We must be engaged in the following, especially since the main character is the same - Banderland.
    2. NEXUS 10 January 2020 19: 24 New
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      Quote: Sergey39
      Now there will be someone who quickly expresses support for the version of undemanding evidence.

      As soon as a certain country begins to be objectionable to the Anglo-Saxons, the Boeing shot down by this country immediately falls. And then the stoned Dutch voiced this with the appearance of experts.
      1. xGibSoNx 10 January 2020 20: 07 New
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        As soon as a certain country begins to be objectionable to the Anglo-Saxons, the Boeing shot down by this country immediately falls. And then the stoned Dutch voiced this with the appearance of experts.
        Just amazing! Why, there is still no version that .. was shot down by the American Patriot? Well, there is a much more obvious version .. And there are motives ...
        1. 75 Sergey 10 January 2020 21: 05 New
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          I, I said !!!
    3. businessv 10 January 2020 23: 25 New
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      Quote: Sergey39
      Now there will be someone who quickly expresses support for the version of undemanding evidence.

      I spoke about this yesterday, but I thought that the Poles would be the first, but no, the British were the first to start. smile
  2. figwam 10 January 2020 17: 38 New
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    Fallen plane and all the same familiar faces, usa, outskirts, holland.
    Or did the person who shot the plane’s crash on the cell phone’s camera arrive in Iran from the Green Continent ... to “stream” from the scene, “predict” the tragic events?

    Wow, it’s rare to see a person taking pictures by phone, in the cold, at night in a vacant lot, the flight of exactly the plane that the whole Western world needs.
    1. GKS 2111 10 January 2020 17: 48 New
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      Quote: figvam
      all the same familiar faces, usa, outskirts, holland.

      In fact, all this pro-American camarilla, determined with the guilty, is already sore: the same type of plots of the information war that are being thrown on the air without being supported by at least some evidence base
      1. cniza 10 January 2020 17: 54 New
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        Unfortunately, this is the reality and we will not act by such methods, we will beat the truth, but not everyone needs it.
    2. Ramzaj99 10 January 2020 17: 49 New
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      And a very big question. What the Ukrainian pilot was looking for there. He flew quite far, and then returned, while keeping the radio silent, he did not even try to get in touch with the dispatcher and report problems or that he had deployed the plane and was returning.
      1. DRM
        DRM 10 January 2020 19: 35 New
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        Quote: Ramzaj99
        And a very big question. What the Ukrainian pilot was looking for there. He flew quite far, and then returned, while keeping the radio silent, he did not even try to get in touch with the dispatcher and report problems or that he had deployed the plane and was returning.

        The fake that the plane was trying to return was launched by the Iranians. Flightradar24 reports that the flight path breaks when the aircraft gained altitude and was at an altitude of 2416 meters. At this moment, an event occurred that instantly interrupted the operation of the transponder (a device that automatically transmits the coordinates, altitude, speed and other parameters of the aircraft in a constant mode). In the event of an accident (engine failure, for example), on the contrary, an emergency signal is also added to the transponder signal. The plane was new, experienced crew. In other words, it is either a terrorist attack inside the aircraft, or an external influence that instantly interrupted the operation of all aircraft systems.
        1. Ramzaj99 10 January 2020 20: 48 New
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          Quote: DRM
          The fake that the plane was trying to return was launched by the Iranians.

          The fake that the plane was trying to return was launched by the Iranians: - this is a fake!
          The transponder’s work doesn’t mean that it flew in a straight line! It could fly as you like in normal mode - this does not affect the operation of the transponder.
          Look at google maps where it fell - it's almost next to the airport. He fell I recall from a height of 2.500, plus he still had to dial it.
          Question: - how did he get to the airport ???
        2. YOUR 11 January 2020 05: 39 New
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          Quote: DRM
          Transponder operation (a device that automatically transmits coordinates, altitude, speed and other parameters of the aircraft in a constant mode)

          A transponder is a simple transponder that issues a signal indicating that the aircraft is civilian. It can still produce several signals in automatic mode and in manual mode. In manual - capture of a vessel, in automatic alarms.
          Each aircraft has an air turbine that will supply current to the most important devices when the engines are turned off, enabling pilots to restart the engines, the transponder will not be turned off for a second, and it also has emergency autonomous power. If the power is completely turned off, it will still work and will automatically issue an emergency code.
          The plane was at an altitude of almost 2500 m. The assumption of a terrorist attack that instantly interrupted the operation interrupted the operation of all systems or hit a rocket, or, as claimed by two, should lead to the destruction of the fuselage and, as a result, the dispersion of debris on a decent area, but this did not happen, the plane crashed as a whole.
    3. NEXUS 10 January 2020 19: 26 New
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      Quote: figvam
      Fallen plane and all the same familiar faces, usa, outskirts, holland.

      Russia allegedly shot down a Boeing, now Iran ... I think China and Korea are next in line to “shoot down” Boeings, and the Dutch should tell the whole world about this.
  3. svp67 10 January 2020 17: 40 New
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    We believe, with a high degree of probability, that the plane was shot down by Iranian missiles.
    And again, Hiley Likely ... It is strange that the Baltic States are silent and Sweden
    1. cniza 10 January 2020 17: 52 New
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      They were left for the last howls, but in general it already goes beyond all limits ...
      1. svp67 10 January 2020 17: 56 New
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        Quote: cniza
        They were left for the last howls, but in general it already goes beyond all limits ...

        The framework, the limits of decency, the "red lines", these guys have overcome a very long time, and now they just follow the instructions ... who or what, well, time will tell.
        1. cniza 10 January 2020 17: 57 New
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          Yes, they themselves will fall into their own curvature ... yes
          1. svp67 10 January 2020 17: 58 New
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            Quote: cniza
            Yes, they themselves will fall into their own curvature ...

            I really hope so.
            1. bouncyhunter 10 January 2020 18: 43 New
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              Quote: svp67
              I really hope so

              How much the rope does not curl - the end will be ... wink
              Concerning the Dutch , ugh, you are the Dutch: how roosters crow crowing before getting into the soup ...
              1. cniza 10 January 2020 20: 44 New
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                Holland is already over, it is the turn of the Netherlands. lol
    2. opus 10 January 2020 17: 58 New
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      Quote: svp67
      And again, Hiley Likely ... It is strange that the Baltic States are silent and Sweden

      ours have already been marked SAME (with version)!
      The version that the Ukrainian Boeing 737 could have been shot down by a missile has spread in Iran. According to a number of publications, a popular version among the local military is that the UIA airliner was hit by an American drone by mistake.
      According to this version, the aircraft was taken by the United States for the government board of the Iranian authorities.


      As Polit.info reports, at the Pentagon, it was believed that there were persons in the plane responsible for the missile bombardment of US bases in Iraq.

      In favor of this version is the fact that the UAV MQ-1 Predator was spotted in the area of ​​the aircraft crash. belay , which is currently not exported by the United States.

      Lie and don't blush
      1.MQ-1 Predator cannot attack an object in the air
      2. They are exported, here it is in Lithuania

      they are in Italy, Turkey, the UAE, even Kazakhstan will begin assembling it ...
      can with MQ-9 Reaper beguiled what

      AIM-92 Stinger air-to-air missiles are being tested.


      Quote: Author
      high probability is how much?

      1. the author does not need to be deprived the Dutch Dutch (since 2020) word rights.
      2. with a "greater" probability, this means more than 0,5
      1. Volodin 10 January 2020 18: 42 New
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        Quote: opus
        ours have already been marked SAME (with version)!
        According to Polit.info, the Pentagon counted

        With the version, that's for sure. But who is ours? or did this polit.info suddenly become the official mouthpiece of the Foreign Ministry / Kremlin / Ministry of Defense?

        Quote: opus
        with a "greater" probability, this means more than 0,5

        This is where you got such "arithmetic" information? I can say that with a high degree of probability you yourself just came up with this, and with a high degree of probability this is your personal point of view, which has nothing to do with the words of the Bloc. Do not give her away for t.z. Foreign Minister of the Netherlands, if you, of course, is not his spokesman, which is most likely not at all
        1. opus 10 January 2020 19: 15 New
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          Quote: Volodin
          With version

          it is deliberate, not a mischief
          Quote: Volodin
          But who is ours?

          ours, these are ours

          Quote: Volodin
          suddenly became the official mouthpiece of the Foreign Ministry / Kremlin / Ministry of Defense?

          1. I didn’t say this (about the Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Kremlin / Ministry of Defense), it’s not correct to label something.
          2. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs / of the Kremlin / Ministry of Defense and others like them are not such shameful nonsense as this
          Dutch Foreign Minister Steph Block
          in your story (if you are an author) gistorii, sculpted, sculpt and sculpt will be.
          If you take them for the truth, then you will become sick on the head.
          If on the topic: then the same Malaysian Boeing (uhhhh version was)
          well, or let the Ministry of Defense declassify / tell us about the disaster with the Tu-154B-2 airliner of the Russian Air Force
          there is no information on the completion of the investigation on the official website of the RF Ministry of Defense, no official press release was published, and no press conference was held on the results of the investigation.
          In December 2019, it became known that the criminal case of the disaster was terminated "due to the lack of corpus delicti", and the decision to dismiss the case is a state secret

          3. And where is the author, anonymous, dug out a statement by Stef Blok?
          again without a link? Hope for "digestible" noodles? as always? the electorate?
          Not here by chance looked?

          It is indeed very likely that the plane has been shot down by Iranian missiles
          ,
          Dutch Foreign Minister Stef Blok told reporters
          Indeed, the very likelythat the plane was shot down by Iranian missiles,

          - Dutch Foreign Minister Steph Block told reporters
          there is a difference with

          Quote: Volodin
          This is where you got such "arithmetic" information?

          with education.
          1. “B” -Superior in size a number of homogeneous objects, phenomena.
          more - That more smth
          Efremova T.F. New Dictionary of the Russian Language. Interpretative and derivational. - M .: Russian language, 2000
          in order to be a "greater" probability of something, one must be greater, i.e. out of 1 should be more than 0,5 (well, or more than 50% of 100%)
          2. in "arithmetic" everything is easier
          >


          Probability that Iranians shot down> Probability of accidents for other reasons
          if we accept that the probability of some event = 1 (100%)
          means:
          The probability that Iranians shot down> 0,5 (50%)
          Probability of accidents for other reasons <0,5 (50%)
          If it were equally probable, it would be 0,5 (50% probability. That the "Iranians" shot down)
          I hope I clearly chewed?
          Threat. but that you would not declare me an enemy of the people of "ours" - I personally do not think that the Iranians shot down, or rather, the probability of such an option is very small (less than 0,1), in my opinion, again.
          Quote: Volodin
          and with a high degree of probability this is your personal point of view, which has nothing to do with the words of the Bloc. Do not give her away for t.z. Foreign Minister of the Netherlands

          1. It may be personal, but I do not misinterpret the words of the Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands, but this is not personal
          2.Block - what does it have to do with it?
          3. Do not indicate to me that "it is necessary", but "that it is not necessary". I’m already a grandfather, I’ll decide for myself.
      2. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 January 2020 18: 47 New
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        Quote: opus
        with a "greater" probability, this means more than 0,5
        I think this means "using this hypothesis as a working one maximizes the likelihood of getting the picture we are seeing." Karl Friedrich Gauss, at least, would approve of this.
  4. knn54 10 January 2020 17: 42 New
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    As they say in sports, the “agreement”.
  5. NIKN 10 January 2020 17: 44 New
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    This year the Netherlands again received a large crop of quality grass ...
    1. svp67 10 January 2020 17: 59 New
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      Quote: NIKNN
      This year the Netherlands again received a large crop of quality grass ...

      And they even rebranded the country, finally abandoning the name Holland
    2. Incvizitor 10 January 2020 18: 55 New
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      A large amount of green paper.
  6. Amateur 10 January 2020 17: 47 New
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    And what else can you expect from tolerant drug addicts from the red light district. repeat
  7. cniza 10 January 2020 17: 47 New
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    In fact, all this pro-American camarilla,


    No, this is not a camarilla, this is a criminal group of states that deliberately distort reality in the interests of the United States.
  8. sergo1914 10 January 2020 17: 48 New
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    What is the argument about? There are characteristic holes in the body - shot down. No, they didn’t. Darken everything.
    1. Sasha_3 10 January 2020 18: 28 New
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      There are photos with characteristic holes - google. If you are too lazy to look, you can look at the fragments of the fuselage and the tail with holes https://yandex.ru/images/touch/search?text=Boeing%20737-800%20iran&redircnt=1578670010.1
      1. sergo1914 10 January 2020 19: 41 New
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        Quote: Sasha_3
        There are photos with characteristic holes - google. If you are too lazy to look, you can look at the fragments of the fuselage and the tail with holes https://yandex.ru/images/touch/search?text=Boeing%20737-800%20iran&redircnt=1578670010.1


        Official photos with holes from the striking elements. And not pieces of duralum poked with an awl.
        1. Alexey Z 11 January 2020 07: 36 New
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          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4218871
    2. opus 10 January 2020 20: 55 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      There are characteristic holes in the body - shot down

      I will correct
      1. holes
      2. not only in the case, even better (“eat”) in the bodies of the victims

      Shl.
      and at least there’s an ammunition consumption log.
      All that was delivered -(minus) what was shot = remainder.
      Does it converge?
      go Americans and the Dutch forest.
      does not converge .... = The Hague.
      * a rare system (for Iran), they themselves do not produce ammunition
      ** all deliveries by us, in official
      Quote: Sasha_3
      There are photos with characteristic holes - google

      dream of reason
      1. Then "by Yandex", if you link to Yandex
      2. So does not happen with the defeat of missiles (on this side exactly 0

      3. these are not exactly those “holes”
  9. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 17: 48 New
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    Dutch Foreign Ministry: Most likely, the plane was shot down by Iranian missiles

    Well, who would doubt it ... Let's just plainly say that Russia, because there are our specialists in Iran ..
    "British scientists" heh heh heh
    1. Grits 10 January 2020 18: 53 New
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      Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar
      Well, who would doubt it ... Let's just plainly say that Russia, because there are our specialists in Iran ..
      "British scientists" heh heh heh

      There is a proven, old way - look for someone who benefits ...
      1. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 19: 55 New
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        Quote: Gritsa
        There is a proven, old way - look for someone who benefits ...

        Well, judging by how the crowd kicked me here, you can understand hehe
    2. opus 10 January 2020 20: 56 New
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      Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar
      "British scientists" heh heh heh

      something tells me that this
      he he

      I'm already somewhere I heard saw
      recourse
      Meehan?
  10. Cottodraton 10 January 2020 17: 50 New
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    Another high-likly ... even from this predictability is not funny ...
    Repeat the same action over and over ... directly gives madness)
    1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 January 2020 18: 17 New
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      Quote: Cottodraton
      Another high-likly ... even from this predictability is not funny ...
      Repeat the same action over and over ... directly gives madness)
      This is a normal correct formulation. The fact that Margarita Simonyan found her incredibly funny, and after she was dragged to the Russian state media, does not make her less normal and correct.
      1. Cottodraton 10 January 2020 20: 36 New
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        Yesterday, all Western intelligence said that the plane crashed itself. Today, intelligence already in Canada said something else and everyone suddenly believed)! What kind of milota, it remains to hear a sentence from 404 or Estonian intelligence, so that you can certainly accustom the vile Persians ...
        What does gossmi and Simonyan have to do with it, dear Mr. Neural Network Bot?
    2. Kurare 10 January 2020 18: 43 New
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      Quote: Cottodraton
      Another high-likly ... even from this predictability is not funny ...

      This, as you call high-likly, is a setup of the highest class, a multi-path. All that the United States demanded from the Europeans was to abandon the agreement with Iran on nuclear projects and impose sanctions against it. Indeed, on the front pages of newspapers, Euro-politics and other balabol require sanctions and suspend any contacts with the regime.

      If this happens, Iran is indeed a khan in the form in which it is! Even China will have to turn away from him. Well, then - take it "warm".
  11. 75 Sergey 10 January 2020 17: 51 New
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    Interest on 99 American.
  12. nm76 10 January 2020 17: 52 New
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    Every evening, starting with the year XNUMX, when the camera appeared on the mobile phone, I went out and took an arbitrary part of the sky. Suddenly a plane flies, and a rocket flies into it ...
    1. Grits 10 January 2020 18: 56 New
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      Quote: nm76
      Every evening, starting with the year XNUMX, when the camera appeared on the mobile phone, I went out and took an arbitrary part of the sky. Suddenly a plane flies, and a rocket flies into it ...

      You were wasting your time and doing everything wrong. You need to shoot selectively. Namely;
      1. Only aircraft of Ukraine
      2. Only Boeings
      3. Only in countries where there are Russian air defense missiles
  13. Brturin 10 January 2020 17: 55 New
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    “Iran asks the Prime Minister of Canada and any government to transfer the information they have on this occasion to the committee investigating the incident in Iran,” said Abbas Mousavi, representative of the Foreign Ministry of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Once upon a time in a “civilized” world, if you can’t prove it, you were challenged to a duel, but now ... Hiley Likely, and even in chorus
  14. Connor MacLeod 10 January 2020 17: 57 New
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    You count? belay
  15. maxxavto 10 January 2020 17: 59 New
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    This was said by the one who has been investigating the fall of Boeing in the Donbass for 5 years, hmm, it’s somehow not funny
  16. zloybond 10 January 2020 18: 00 New
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    You just need to be patient. The author of the article also burns ahead of the engine. We are waiting for what the commission will say.
    1. Pevek 10 January 2020 20: 43 New
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      Quote: zloybond
      You just need to be patient. The author of the article also burns ahead of the engine. We are waiting for what the commission will say.


      Hello)
      And to the whole non-living world we will not care what the Iranian commission says. They will say that she is a Totalitarian and that distorts inflation and that she needs “independent”. And that’s all ... and then any fiction is presented as truth.
      Now you don’t know where reality is, but where is fiction ..
      1. zloybond 10 January 2020 22: 54 New
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        In principle, what difference does it make us think. We need to wait for what the specialist will say after studying the material, and not the sofa audience and the "former experts".
      2. Alexey Z 11 January 2020 08: 08 New
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        The Iranian commission responded, admitted that they shot down.
        1. Pevek 11 January 2020 15: 01 New
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          Hello))
          Strong. It’s hard to recognize, but .. well done.
          I was wrong, in this case the truth was found.
          Condolences about all the dead.
  17. yuliatreb 10 January 2020 18: 01 New
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    Again, the same people sang in unison, and the conductor cannot provide ensemble durability in any way.
  18. Kostadinov 10 January 2020 18: 03 New
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    The plane crashed because Holland became the Netherlands.
    Friends and relatives of the victims should bring to court all of these commentators for moral damage and mockery of the memory of the victims.
  19. Ravil_Asnafovich 10 January 2020 18: 08 New
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    Not casual Trump turned on the "eccentric", oh not casual.
  20. Thrifty 10 January 2020 18: 11 New
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    I said that the Iranians will be "appointed" and we will be at the same time!
    1. Grits 10 January 2020 18: 59 New
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      I said that the Iranians will be "appointed" and we will be at the same time!

      So no one doubted that.
  21. Sasha_3 10 January 2020 18: 32 New
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    Of course, defending a pro-Russian position, patriotism and all that is good. But somehow, when it conflicts with reality, it's time to think. There is time and place, there is a motive, there is a photo with obscure holes in the fuselage, part of a rocket, a video of alleged shot down, a message about recorded missile launches, there is opposition to Iran’s investigation. The USA, incidentally, did not immediately yell that the plane was shot down and did not blame Iran. And right now, Iran is reporting on the news that it has leveled the entire crash site with bulldozers. Cannot make blind man see speak in the USA in such cases
  22. zavyalov4leksandr 10 January 2020 18: 33 New
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    The phrase "with a high degree of probability" Steph Blok did not specify. He did not specify, by Dutch standards, how much is it likely? For example, 10% will do? Or 30%? Or is it necessarily 80-90%? In this case, why investigate if the percentage calculations on the part of Mr. Blok are sufficient.


    The author of the article makes some strange passages. Where did Blok say that no investigation was needed? Where was they told that the "rocket" version is the only true and irrefutable? He only said that at the moment, according to the Dutch leadership, most likely is the missile launch version.
  23. Azazelo 10 January 2020 18: 35 New
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    If the foreign ministry of the state operates with the ponies "most likely" "it seems like they found it (the remains of a rocket)" - it's just an empty place.
  24. zavyalov4leksandr 10 January 2020 18: 48 New
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    In general, in the story of media coverage of the fall of the Ukrainian Boeing, Western media and officials behave quite tactfully. For example, when covering the "rocket" version, the CNN channel in the title and in the text of the article itself uses the expression "appears to", which translates as "probably" or "similar":

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

    But the Russian Vedomosti, covering this CNN article, stated in its text that the channel unequivocally claims that the plane was shot down by a rocket - quote:

    "The Ukrainian Boeing 737-800 was shot down in Tehran by two anti-aircraft missiles. CNN reports citing an informed source"

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2020/01/10/820308-cnn-soobschilo-novie-podrobnosti-katastrofi-ukrainskogo-boinga

    That is, the Western media speak only about capabilities that the plane was shot down by a rocket, and the Russian media distort this moment in their presentation.
  25. O. Bender 10 January 2020 18: 48 New
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    The Dutch Foreign Ministry spoke out, we are waiting for the opinion of Georgian shepherds,
  26. Victor March 47 10 January 2020 18: 58 New
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    The best that the Dutch could do is present as evidence the pieces of iron from the Buk missile, selected in Ukraine. To really lie so professionally. What is there to throw idle words, Most likely, for example. Fuck, so that the UN rostrum crumbles.
  27. Victor March 47 10 January 2020 19: 01 New
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    The statement of this Block from the category of "anyhow blurt out."

    No way. From a number of approvals, to give popular support. Six months later, the version will become official. And in orderly rows, on command, from the left foot, all at once with the song ....
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  29. Andrzej k 10 January 2020 19: 09 New
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    And now - the Netherlands really decided to present its position on this issue, although it is difficult to understand how this country has anything to do with what happened under Tehran.



    To the author: You decided to present your position on this issue, although it is difficult to understand how the country generally has anything to do with what happened near Tehran
  30. PValery53 10 January 2020 19: 21 New
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    Hiley Likely - Chew It Yourself! The probability fraction is the “rubber” value: as they want, they stretch it. - Come on facts!
  31. Finn 10 January 2020 19: 35 New
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    In the same place, drugs are legalized.
  32. Dzafdet 10 January 2020 19: 39 New
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    The Americans drove him off the drone to expose Iran as terrorists, as well as Russia ..
    1. zavyalov4leksandr 10 January 2020 19: 53 New
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      That is, the American slow-moving drone flew to Tehran, located in the north of the country, and the omnipotent Iranian air defense, which is so praised by the military, could not detect and shoot it down? How then did they get together to fight with normal American aviation?
  33. nm76 10 January 2020 19: 47 New
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    Let's just say, similar precedents in history have already been:
    Bulgarians shot down a civilian plane in Israel
    Israelis shot down a Libyan liner
    USSR South Korean plane shot down
    Americans shot down Iranian liner
    Ukraine shot down our Russian plane
    And in all cases, the parties categorically rejected. But then, in one form or another, they pleaded guilty and at the international level, the conflict between the countries was settled. Was it just payments to the relatives of the victims, were the agreements closed, the guilty parties planted, etc.
    And here I think the situation, although ambiguous, but it already has a clear outline of what happened.
    While we are here beads in this matter with a sword, between the countries participating in the tragedy, there is an exchange of offers on all channels, official and not.
    Condolences to the families of the victims!
    Praise God (both ours and them) that all this will not lead to greater sacrifices now ...
    1. zavyalov4leksandr 10 January 2020 19: 59 New
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      And in all cases, the parties categorically rejected.
      - I can’t say about other examples, but when Ukraine shot down a Russian plane, the Ukrainian leadership almost immediately admitted the guilt of their air defense. There wasn’t a long rejection there. The debate, as far as I know, was only about the amount of compensation to the relatives of the victims.
  34. pexotinec 10 January 2020 19: 47 New
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    The chant continues, who is next.
  35. rocket757 10 January 2020 20: 01 New
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    Yes, the harvest of "bamboo" in the Benelux will not run out! Smokers, too, everything is in place!
  36. screw cutter 10 January 2020 20: 23 New
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    Ok. Only holes from the striking elements and the elements themselves are stuck in the skin of the studio.
  37. Avior 10 January 2020 20: 38 New
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    I read a lot about the fact that those who talk about rocket hits must show evidence.
    And in connection with this, the question arises - should they show evidence based on the statements of the Iranians?
    After a couple of hours, the Iranians announced that the plane crashed due to technical problems. The question arises: how did they find out if, as it turned out, the connection with the pilots disappeared instantly and they did not report anything on this topic?
    By the way, Michman, on a previous thread on the experience of participating in commissions of inquiry, wrote that it is impossible for both pilots to lose contact at the same time in case of malfunctions.
    Later, the version began to spread that there was a breakdown of the engine, again, without the slightest confirming facts in this regard.
    The Iranian statement about the U-turn of the plane contradicts the data of the flytradar - and we don’t see any explanations of the Iranian statements about the U-turn.
    Now the news has come abruptly - the Iranians are destroying evidence at the crash site, comparing everything with a bulldozer - the news is so unexpected that I myself did not believe that it could be so ridiculous that I wrote to someone that this was a false message from a German journalist, but such began to come from different sources.
    If this is confirmed, the Iranians are preparing their own accusations, or what?
    There are a lot of questions, let's hope we get the answers, but it seems that the matter will not be easy
    1. zavyalov4leksandr 10 January 2020 23: 00 New
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      If the news about bulldozers is true, then this, of course, is complete tin
  38. 75 Sergey 10 January 2020 21: 12 New
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    The autopsy of the bodies of the dead must be carried out in the presence of an international commission, for sure there will be striking elements, and they will already dance from them.
    1. Kondratko 11 January 2020 01: 08 New
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      Daughters of an air traffic controller?
      Where did you slide so much after the plane crash? Raid paid sixtyrasts ?!
      1. 75 Sergey 11 January 2020 01: 17 New
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        Yes, you, crested mattress bedding, and so the whole ether shit whitewashing their island master.
        1. Kondratko 11 January 2020 01: 19 New
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          Tofarishchch, you have a typo, probably instead of "you" should be "we"? !!!
          Take a walk in the forest, go to your censor forums, here you are not welcome!
  39. Gennady Fomkin 10 January 2020 21: 13 New
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    More than 400 pilots filed a class action lawsuit against Boeing in December 2019 due to the company’s “unprecedented concealment” of “known design defects” in 737 MAX aircraft. According to the pilots, concealment of the flaws led to the crash of two airliners in Indonesia and Ethiopia and the subsequent suspension of flights of this model around the world. In fact, all this pro-American camarilla, having decided on the guilty, has already snapped up: the same type of information war stories that are being thrown on the air without being supported by at least some evidence base - and after that they want to conduct a pragmatic dialogue with the same Iran. .. (bored girls)
  40. mavrus 10 January 2020 21: 49 New
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    Oh, the Netherlands wouldn’t get into this shit, they are still head over heels from the Malaysian Boeing.
  41. Gennady Fomkin 10 January 2020 22: 08 New
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    When any aircraft takes permission to take off, or performs takeoff, it is automatically entered into the database of the air defense system. Dispatching service coordinates its actions with the air defense forces or military use of airspace
  42. ljoha_d 10 January 2020 22: 39 New
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    Oh, these Netherlands would have closed his mouth !!!!!!!!!!
  43. Kibl 10 January 2020 23: 14 New
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    The pickled grass was served for breakfast to the head of the Dutch Foreign Ministry, after all, it clanged, smoothed and did not let go ...
  44. artifact 10 January 2020 23: 15 New
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    fake or not judge for yourself:
    Zelensky called on to start a war with Iran

    The petition says that if the international commission establishes an external impact on the aircraft (namely, the defeat by Iranian air defense), it is necessary to recognize a missile strike as an act of external aggression against Ukraine.
    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1578679687
  45. artifact 11 January 2020 00: 01 New
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    one of the shortest wars in history, from the assassination of Suleymani, shelling of bases, to the death of a Boeing in less than a week.
    Losses: - General and comrades, fifty crushed at the funeral, "80 victims of a missile attack," 176 Boeing martyrs.
    the cowboys of the roof didn’t have enough to get drunk !?
  46. evgen1221 11 January 2020 00: 30 New
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    With a high degree of probability the Dutch will be sent to hell.
  47. iouris 11 January 2020 00: 40 New
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    I bet the translation is wrong. A competent person could not say "with a high degree of probability." Most likely he said something like this: "With high confidence, we can assume that the plane was shot down by Iranian air defense missiles."
  48. Kondratko 11 January 2020 01: 02 New
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    But who cares about your statements (?), Talking heads can only project someone’s thoughts, and thoughts cannot be facts.
    The Netherlands is the country of the clerks - FAYKLAND ... You proved it ,,, as one woman with low social responsibility said in a commercial: “You are worth it.”
    1. viking1703 11 January 2020 07: 42 New
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      Well? will you apologize to the Dutch? they were right !!!!
  49. Alexey Lobanov 11 January 2020 03: 14 New
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    Yes, a lot of all sorts of hypothesis and speculation. But objective facts among them - zilch - CNENEN, Canada and another shnyaga, and also golpandiya (necessarily with a small letter) - are not OBJECTIVE facts (some accept them, others reject - everything is very reasoned :))
    One indisputable fact - the flight was delayed for almost an hour. The flight would have flown a route through the Caspian-Russia-Ukraine ... An hour after take-off, it would have been over Russia ... the Caspian ... Pidorasov needs to be wetted. Do not slurp with them, water, to repel all their Anglo-Saxon imagination ... They do not reckon with ordinary people. And with his own, too.
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      And what not through Turkey, the Black Sea, to Nikolaev, Kiev?
  50. Alexey Lobanov 11 January 2020 03: 55 New
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    Quote: Alexey Lobanov
    Yes, a lot of all sorts of hypothesis and speculation. But objective facts among them - zilch - CNENEN, Canada and another shnyaga, and also golpandiya (necessarily with a small letter) - are not OBJECTIVE facts (some accept them, others reject - everything is very reasoned :))
    One indisputable fact - the flight was delayed for almost an hour. The flight would have flown a route through the Caspian-Russia-Ukraine ... An hour after take-off, it would have been over Russia ... the Caspian ... Pidorasov needs to be wetted. Do not slurp with them, water, to repel all their Anglo-Saxon imagination ... They do not reckon with ordinary people. And with his own, too.

    I hope under fag no one took people with a gay orientation? I am quite tolerant of them (if this does not concern my daughter and son), I had in mind politicians who TRY to the best of their stupidity and inadequacy to try to rule the world.