“If the USSR lost, the fate of China would be unhappy”: Sohu reflects on the personality of Stalin


The Chinese media published material reminding that in 2020 the 75th anniversary of the end of World War II will be celebrated. Moreover, the material focuses on the contribution of the Soviet Union to the defeat of Nazi Germany. We are talking about material in the military section of the Chinese Sohu, where a discussion unfolded about the figure of Joseph Stalin.


The author of the article says that Stalin was a visionary politician and managed to create the conditions for the development of the world's first socialist state, despite Western pressure.

From the article:

Stalin decided to focus on the development of industry, and concentrated his efforts on the implementation of state orders by enterprises. At that time in the USSR it was faced with financial and economic difficulties, many Soviet families were forced to live in poverty. However, the merit of Joseph Stalin for the USSR can be considered that he consolidated power and people, implemented a development program, created a new structure of economic life.

The material indicates that it could not do without the so-called purges.

From the article:

After the campaign of the 1930s, Stalin's power became more stable, and the USSR became one of the most powerful powers in the world.

In Sohu, it is noted that, among other things, thanks to this, a victory was won in the war.

The author notes with what respect Stalin was treated in China, largely adopting the Soviet experience in the early stages of the construction of the PRC.

From the article:

After Stalin's death, Nikita Khrushchev came to power, immediately launching a critical campaign against his predecessor. This campaign reached China. There was a rampant bureaucracy, a cult of personality, an infringement of rights and freedoms. But after Stalin's death, a huge country remained, and in his closet there were several woolen coats (overcoats), a jacket, 5 smoking pipes, 2 boxes of tobacco and 900 rubles on deposit. And 900 rubles at that time was the salary of an ordinary Soviet employee.

It is noteworthy how Sohu readers react to this material. Here are some comments:

“If the USSR lost, the fate of China would be unhappy”: Sohu reflects on the personality of Stalin

Chechens who died innocently do not think so. And other people who were forcibly united in the Soviet Union and whose land was seized do not think so either.



No matter what a swarm of Western mosquitoes squeals about Stalin, he was a great man! He built a powerful Soviet Union!

Stalin made a huge contribution to the victory over fascism: if the USSR lost in the war against the fascists, then Germany and Japan would unite - the fate of China would be unhappy.
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  1. Altona 10 January 2020 16: 02 New
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    Under "woolen coats" probably meant overcoats. At least Stalin was not seen in official photos in purely formal coats. In general, the selection of comments is interesting. It is difficult to overestimate the personality of Stalin. And especially in the role of the formation of modern China, which last year turned 70 years old in the form of China.
    1. Vend 10 January 2020 16: 07 New
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      Not only the fate of China would be sad.
      1. Stas157 10 January 2020 17: 48 New
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        . The author notes with what respect Stalin was treated in China, largely adopting the Soviet experience

        The Chinese elite, who built a powerful country, treats Stalin better than the current Russian government. The Kremlin is definitely not going to adopt the Soviet experience, as the Chinese comrades did.
        1. eckons 10 January 2020 19: 29 New
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          Since 53 years, the USSR and China went different roads. It is precisely because the Chinese comrades abandoned the Soviet experience that they built a powerful country.
          1. RUSS 10 January 2020 20: 17 New
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            Quote: eckons
            Since 53 years, the USSR and China went different roads

            This has become especially noticeable since the days of Deng Xiaoping, from the end of the 1970s.
            "You should not be constrained by ideological and practical abstract disputes about the name it all bears - socialism or capitalism "
            Deng Xiaoping
            1992 year.
            1. Shurik70 10 January 2020 21: 19 New
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              innocent dead don't think so

              Even in China there are those who have been brainwashed by the Western press!
              no
            2. Altona 10 January 2020 21: 22 New
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              Quote: RUSS
              This has become especially noticeable since the days of Deng Xiaoping, from the end of the 1970s.

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              Well, here the Chinese Communist Party was charged with confronting the Brezhnev Soviet Union with the visits of Nixon, who promised (and made) Western technology and markets to China. Under this they poured the entire economic, first of all, political and ideological agenda. Hence the magical take-off of China, which is based on this springboard. The USSR in terms of technological leap, and it was under Stalin, was abruptly because it was able to do what China took much more time to do, it was aviation, rockets and space, a nuclear program, and that was done on the basis of Soviet and post-Soviet backlogs.
          2. Stas157 10 January 2020 20: 28 New
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            Quote: eckons
            Precisely because Chinese comrades abandoned Soviet experience they built a powerful country.

            How do you hate everything Soviet, that even your intonation shouts about it.

            The Chinese, with nostalgia, talk about the USSR and in elevated tones when they judge its achievements. And the Chinese ambassador in Moscow told how tears rolled down when an drunk lowered the Soviet flag from the Kremlin, replacing it with a tricolor.
            1. eckons 10 January 2020 20: 40 New
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              I can’t hate everything Soviet, it’s part of my life. But pink snot too I will not begin it let the exalted young men exercise. And what do you know about the Chinese, they then and now consider Siberia their original land. And even at that time, the Chinese loved the Soviet Union so much that they did not unleash the third world war.
              1. Altona 10 January 2020 21: 30 New
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                Quote: eckons
                And what do you know about the Chinese, they then and now consider Siberia their original land.

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                China, in principle, is a nationalist dictatorship led by the CCP, which in principle declares its type of communist idea in the form of Maoism (Marxism with a peasant bias, that is, you understand who the subject of the revolution is). Plus Confucianism and other goodies. China is a central power.
                1. eckons 10 January 2020 21: 50 New
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                  So I say, one should not be moved by the tears of the old Chinese ambassador and listen to their nostalgic speeches in sublime tones. This old man didn’t spare his own people (and they didn’t have a couple of cleansings, they were even ours), much less we will not regret the inhabitants of Russia. But they know how to value their story. It was so much good and so much bad, but that's our story. Here for this respect. And we still have the Communists fighting with tsarism and personally Nikolashka, liberals with the Soviet Union and personally Stalin. And the end of that war is not to be seen.
              2. Sergey1987 11 January 2020 10: 55 New
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                Quote: eckons
                I can’t hate everything Soviet, it’s part of my life. But pink snot too I will not begin it let the exalted young men exercise. And what do you know about the Chinese, they then and now consider Siberia their original land. And even at that time, the Chinese loved the Soviet Union so much that they did not unleash the third world war.

                I agree with you in many ways, all the more difficult for these pseudo-communists to prove something. Except one. Siberia they never considered their original land. There are some who shout that the Primorsky Territory and part of the Khabarovsk Territory are like the primordial lands of China, since the time of the Qing Empire, but I do not think that there are many of them. At the official level, no one thinks so.
                1. eckons 11 January 2020 20: 08 New
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                  Believe, Believe. You can take a look on the Internet (for example, https://www.alt.kp.ru/daily/26914.4/3959543/), but I heard this from the Russians living in China.
                  1. Sergey1987 13 January 2020 12: 47 New
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                    Quote: eckons
                    Believe, Believe. You can take a look on the Internet (for example, https://www.alt.kp.ru/daily/26914.4/3959543/), but I heard this from the Russians living in China.

                    Well, if some of the Chinese authors wrote something on some resources, I don’t think that it means that everyone thinks so. Well, there they are still about the Altai Territory, Tyva or Primorye, they can say something, but take for example the Tyumen region or the Krasnoyarsk Territory. This is also Siberia, but it can’t relate to the PRC in any way. I talked to one supplier of goods from China, who actually lives in China. He told me that he never encountered the Chinese who would say that Siberia should be taken away, he said that this was a myth invented by us. Although of course, it is clear that he did not speak with everyone in the PRC.
                    1. eckons 13 January 2020 15: 36 New
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                      It is clear that not everyone thinks so. But this is only a matter of information paging. They will start blowing from every iron about great China (from mozh to mozh) from ocean to ocean, and all in half a year every Chinese will consider that without these lands he feels such a personal dislike, even he cannot.
            2. RUSS 10 January 2020 21: 00 New
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              Quote: Stas157
              The Chinese are talking with nostalgia about the USSR

              The old generation is possible, and Chinese youth are actively learning English and looking at the West and the USA.
              1. Altona 10 January 2020 21: 26 New
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                Quote: RUSS
                The old generation is possible, and Chinese youth are actively learning English and looking at the West and the USA.

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                Well, for all Chinese youth it is not necessary to declare, because Taiwanese and Hong Kong youth can be called Chinese. There are Chinese young people who look at the West and the USA and say: "Is that all there is to it? We can get better! Higher skyscrapers, faster than the train, better communications and the Internet! Better there and better here!"
            3. RUSS 10 January 2020 21: 02 New
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              Quote: Stas157
              And the Chinese ambassador in Moscow told how his tears rolled when an drunk lowered the Soviet flag from the Kremlin, replacing

              The sentimental Chinese turned out to be.
          3. kubkaz13 11 January 2020 00: 28 New
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            Read the Stalinist article, “The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR,” and you will understand which path China has taken.
        2. Sergey1987 11 January 2020 10: 50 New
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          Quote: Stas157
          The Chinese elite who built a powerful country belongs to Stalin better

          And do not tell who of the Chinese elite expressed something about Stalin?
          Quote: Stas157
          than the current Russian government.

          Horror is what. About His Holiness, none of our elite has spoken out since December.
          Quote: Stas157
          The Kremlin is definitely not going to adopt the Soviet experience, as the Chinese comrades did.

          laughing Experience what? What experience did they take there? laughing The experience of mass repression? Well, they did without ours. Experience the economic breakthrough? So they certainly did not use Soviet.
    2. GKS 2111 10 January 2020 16: 07 New
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      Quote: Altona
      It is difficult to overestimate the personality of Stalin.

      No matter what a swarm of Western mosquitoes squeals about Stalin, he was a great man! He built a powerful Soviet Union!
      1. Alexander Suvorov 10 January 2020 16: 54 New
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        I have written more than once, but I repeat. It was thanks to the policy of Joseph Vissarionovich that we got a powerful, industrialized country, which eventually broke the ridge of the collective West under the command of the Third Reich. The impetus of industrialization that Stalin gave made it possible to make a huge leap forward from the backward agrarian country, which was also destroyed by two wars. After all, the USSR really only lagged behind the advanced powers in TWO five-year plans. The growth rate was such that the advanced capitalist economies nervously smoked on the sidelines and fiercely envied. Every 6 hours, a joint factory was commissioned by a new factory, factory, hydroelectric power station or other object vital for the economy.
        Stalin is the ONLY leader not only in the USSR, but also perhaps throughout the world, in which prices for goods did not rise, but decrease! Stalin built the state for all Soviet people, and not for himself. A state in which each person could realize himself, where theft was harshly suppressed, where the leader bore real responsibility for his actions or inaction. And it is precisely for this responsibility that modern liberals hate him so much, who want to have everything without doing anything and most importantly without answering for anything, including their words.
        And with the advent of Khrushchev, the country turned away from the evolutionary socialist course of development, a party nomenclature appeared, which ultimately ruined the great country.
        Here's a brief summary of something like this!
        1. eckons 10 January 2020 19: 42 New
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          Only a person who has not lived in the USSR can write like this. Perhaps under Stalin it was all that way; he didn’t see and live. But since the seventies, the union was definitely not what you are describing. About the responsibility of leaders, social mobility, etc. do not invent. The words blat, deficit, nepotism and others acquired their meaning not yesterday. Yes, look at least the wick of that time.
          1. Alexander Suvorov 10 January 2020 20: 03 New
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            eckons (Dmitriy)
            Only a person who has not lived in the USSR can write like this.
            I come from the USSR and I know about everything described by you by hearsay. I did not write that this was not the case in the USSR. I wrote that all of the above is a product of the activity of a traitor. It was with his arrival that the party nomenclature and all the "charms" of late socialism appeared, including blat and other delights. Deficit is exclusively a product of the Gorbachev era, and by the way, it was created artificially, if you suddenly do not know. Tons of sausages and other delicacies were taken out to the trash purposefully or are you not in the know?
            So it is not yet known which of us lived under the USSR.
            1. eckons 10 January 2020 20: 10 New
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              No, not in the know. Because it's nonsense. No, it was possible to take out tons of sausage to a landfill as much as you like, but certainly not because they deliberately created a shortage. Because of stupidity, irresponsibility or something else as much as you like. But about artificially created deficit is a myth.
    3. sabakina 10 January 2020 19: 00 New
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      Quote: Altona
      It is difficult to overestimate the personality of Stalin. And especially in the role of the formation of modern China, which last year turned 70 years old in the form of China.
      Actually, those who are older remember everything perfectly. I'm afraid the young people no longer understand what role the USSR played for China ...
  2. Pevek 10 January 2020 16: 04 New
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    Stalin was the greatest man! His achievements are undeniable.
    1. Aerodrome 10 January 2020 16: 05 New
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      “If the USSR lost, the fate of China would be unhappy”: Sohu reflects on the personality of Stalin
      Today, 15: 55
      The USSR lost, and the fate of Russia is not enviable. till.
      1. Roman070280 10 January 2020 16: 08 New
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        Well, in a sense, you're right ..
        But there the context was about Nazi Germany ..
        Modern Germany (with Japan) do not go to war in China ..
      2. Mordvin 3 10 January 2020 17: 02 New
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        USSR lost

        And China won by receiving from the USSR the nuclear industry, aircraft manufacturing (starting from the I-16 assembly in China, at factory No. 600), the auto industry (the first Chinese car - a copy of the ZiS-151, assembled on a copy of the ZiS factory). request
      3. maidan.izrailovich 10 January 2020 17: 25 New
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        The USSR lost, and the fate of Russia is not enviable. till.

        You somehow talk about the USSR like a foreign object. He (the USSR) lost. Yes, we all lost. Because the majority of those who lived in the late 80s bought noodles about "capitalism with a human face."
        Do not be shy about your story. In order not to repeat mistakes in the future.
    2. Roman070280 10 January 2020 16: 07 New
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      I have two idols .. I.V. Stalin and S.P. Korolev ..
      Although for many this may seem strange ..
      1. Karen 10 January 2020 16: 24 New
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        Quote: Roman070280
        I have two idols .. I.V. Stalin and S.P. Korolev ..
        Although for many this may seem strange ..

        Nothing strange...
        If you didn’t read ... Kim Bakshi had an excellent article, it tells how they came to the Queen from Armenia with a proposal to organize a flight orientation system for missiles ... I highly recommend ... Very interesting, and who was next to Sergey Pavlovich during the discussion ...
        1. Aerodrome 10 January 2020 16: 59 New
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          Quote: Roman070280
          I have two idols .. I.V. Stalin and S.P. Korolev ..
          Although for many this may seem strange ..

          my list will seem strange to many ... I’ll add von Braun, N. Tesla, and Beria to yours ... you can name a couple of names like D. Orwell, N. Nosov, D, Rodari, = but then I need run .... right now ..... hey ... hey ... who are you ... oh!
          1. Svarog51 10 January 2020 20: 09 New
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            Sorry I can not do what I want. May this be support to me and you: +++++++++++
      2. RUSS 10 January 2020 17: 10 New
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        Quote: Roman070280
        I have two idols

        "Do not make yourself an idol "
        1. Aerodrome 10 January 2020 18: 15 New
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          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Roman070280
          I have two idols

          "Do not make yourself an idol "

          duck about one ... from the point of view of modern jurisprudence you are so ... about .. to play ... yes
  3. Roman070280 10 January 2020 16: 05 New
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    And other people who were forcibly united in the Soviet Union and whose land was seized by the land also do not think so.


    Is it about psheks or something ??
    Or who else have we seized from the land there ??
    Well, the galloping neighbors are also scamming the Union now .. but does anyone really think that their grandfathers and grandmothers considered violence to live in that country ??
    Questions are rhetorical ..
    1. major147 10 January 2020 16: 58 New
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      Quote: Roman070280
      Is it about psheks or something ??


      The Polish Sejm, the lower house of parliament, passed a resolution on Thursday that the USSR, along with Hitler Germany, was to blame for the outbreak of World War II. This was reported on the website of the legislature on January 9.
      “The start of World War II was caused by two totalitarian powers of that time: Nazi Germany and the Stalin Soviet Union, and after the conclusion of the notorious Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact on August 23, 1939, Poland and the countries of Central and Eastern Europe became the first victims of both totalitarian regimes,” Diet words from resolution.
      The parliament condemned statements in which the Russian authorities allegedly “try to hold Poland responsible for starting the Second World War”, noting that “the greatness of a nation and relations between states cannot be built on lies and falsification of history”.
      “The Sejm of the Republic of Poland pays tribute to the victims of Nazi and Soviet totalitarianism and expresses the wish that the history of their martyrdom should never be falsified and not be treated as an instrument,” the report says.
      Parliament calls for a joint understanding of the principles for building international relations, which should become the basis for "mutual respect, partnership and good neighborliness."
      On January 5, the German publication Die Zeit reported that Poland was planning at the legislative level "to ban Russia from interpreting history in its own way." The Polish Sejm is going to support the “fight against lies” about the Second World War and pass a law aimed at “curbing Russia’s alleged attempt to rewrite history.”
      At the end of December 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the Polish ambassador a bastard and anti-Semitic pig,
  4. RUSS 10 January 2020 16: 05 New
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    Again Kobe !!! this year, Stalin will definitely be pulled out of the grave
  5. Loess 10 January 2020 16: 07 New
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    Stalin made a huge contribution to the victory over fascism: if the USSR lost in the war against the fascists, then Germany and Japan would unite - the fate of China would be unhappy.
    That's for sure. One and a half billion Chinese can not be wrong.
    1. Aerodrome 10 January 2020 18: 21 New
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      . One and a half billion Chinese can not be wrong.

      one and a half billion, they counted only themselves. there are no witnesses of foreign countries during the census, the info is closed .... so ... maybe a yard and a half ... maybe 500 lyam ... who knows? They say that the Chinese themselves launched such a misinformation to scare the whole world ... and I, inclined to believe. many facts are evidence of this.
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    1. fruit_cake 10 January 2020 16: 10 New
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      any thoughts about the members? go to other resources discuss them
    2. astronom1973n 10 January 2020 16: 37 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      And I wonder what would happen if my grandmother had a member?

      With this question to Western countries.))) They are in the know. This is their future "a member of my grandmother.")))
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      And I wonder what would happen if my grandmother had a member?

      She would be a grandfather)))
  7. svp67 10 January 2020 16: 16 New
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    Chechens who died innocently do not think so. And other people who were forcibly united in the Soviet Union and whose land was seized by the land also do not think so.
    Commentator apparently from Singapore
  8. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 16: 20 New
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    “If the USSR lost, the fate of China would be unhappy”

    If the Soviet troops of the Kwantung Army had not been dismantled in a couple of months .. That fate of China would be deplorable, or the Japanese would have cut them methodically, or the Anglo-Saxons would again colonize with opium ...
    Technology went and specialists in the days of Stalin .... But when Khrushchev lied to Stalin here already. Mao was offended seriously.
    Something like that! In general, China rose powerfully when the USSR collapsed .. They all took into account and entire research institutes studied all of them and made conclusions ....
    And even now, if it had not been for Russia, then China would have been soaked not so clearly from the inside .. The Russians are stopping everyone from robbing, for this they are poisoning us and trying to destroy us ..
    1. RUSS 10 January 2020 16: 24 New
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      Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar
      If the Soviet troops of the Kwantung Army had not been dismantled in a couple of months .. That fate of China would be deplorable, or the Japanese cut them

      In any case, the Japanese would capitulate after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and would leave Manjuri.
      1. astronom1973n 10 January 2020 16: 38 New
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        would leave Manjuria.

        "Manchuria"))) Yes. What is your native language? But obviously not Russian.
      2. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 16: 41 New
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        In any case, the Japanese would capitulate after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and would leave Manjuri.

        I do not agree! If the USSR had not gouged the quantons, the United States would have had serious problems .. Not so many had atomic bombs, and even had problems with delivery .. The United States would certainly not have climbed into Manchuria, too strong echelon defense was buried in rocks and underground bunkers .. Which could only be taken by Soviet troops ..!
        1. RUSS 10 January 2020 16: 52 New
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          The United States certainly would not have climbed into Manchuria

          Natural, since they would have squeezed the Japanese without going to Manchuria. The Japanese would surrender in Manchuria as before the Germans in the Courland Cauldron, Berlin was taken, and they were still snapped there until mid-May 45
        2. Svarog51 10 January 2020 20: 19 New
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          Vitaly, you have a phenomenal ability to find adventure on the fifth point. How did you manage with 43 comments -7tysch to have a rating? The defense was really established there, but the troops that broke it had great experience. hi
          1. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 20: 33 New
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            Quote: Svarog51
            Vitaly, you have a phenomenal ability to find adventure on the fifth point. How did you manage with 43 comments -7tysch to have a rating for rating?

            "Some here love me!" It's still a little hehe
            Quote: Svarog51
            The defense was really established there, but the troops that broke it had great experience.

            Namely, they collected the most experienced and they broke into the Japanese defense .. for a couple of months .. There was a horror of them ..
            And the United States threw a couple of bombs on the peaceful mostly and yell that they defeated the bastards ..
            The same thing is happening on BV now!
            These are the things Sergey and the devil are not our brother .. We need to punish them. For everything !!!!!
            1. Svarog51 10 January 2020 20: 42 New
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              R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi I did not skip history at school, I know even more than the school curriculum. You know my position regarding you. Let me get in trouble, but I am against your absence from the site. The army is again introducing politicians, the site also needs.
              1. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 20: 54 New
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                You know my attitude towards you. Let me get in trouble, but I am against your absence from the site. The army is again introducing politicians, the site also needs.

                Thank you, Sergey, but it’s better to stay away from me .. I have already told peasants more than once, I got caught on the inside too much once .... It's a pity if you suffer a brother! hi
                But the jackals have already received the goal ..
                1. Svarog51 10 January 2020 21: 16 New
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                  I have nothing to fear for my skin, the second appeal cannot be avoided. To nobody.
                  1. RUSS 10 January 2020 22: 43 New
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                    Quote: Svarog51
                    I have nothing to fear for my skin, the second appeal cannot be avoided. To nobody.

                    You still won’t be at war?)
                    1. Svarog51 11 January 2020 04: 23 New
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                      Accounted for sometimes. The information war is in full swing. And it doesn’t need a machine gun and grenades, but a keyboard and a mouse. Well, exposure is no less than in the trench.
          2. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 20: 49 New
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            Vitaly, you have a phenomenal ability to find adventure on the fifth point. How did you manage with 43 comments -7tysch to have a rating for rating?

            yes for a long time so, but lately the huntsmen have become brutalized and shoot accurately at a tip .. I’m running while my heart is beating!

            Harassment and shooting flourish here ...
            1. Svarog51 10 January 2020 20: 55 New
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              Vitaly, why depict infantry in the trenches under artillery fire. Will you ever learn modern realities, or will you and your saber attack? Well, at least in an armored personnel carrier, get a horse.
      3. strannik1985 10 January 2020 16: 45 New
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        Japanese anyway

        And the USSR would receive a pro-American China, and not a friendly pro-Soviet. In the USSR, victory was considered the main achievement in China, and not in Europe.
        1. RUSS 10 January 2020 16: 53 New
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          Quote: strannik1985
          Japanese anyway

          And the USSR would receive a pro-American China, and not a friendly pro-Soviet. In the USSR, victory was considered the main achievement in China, and not in Europe.

          This is when China was friendly to us? They needed us at a certain stage and no more.
          1. Mordvin 3 10 January 2020 17: 18 New
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            This is when China was friendly to us?

            Before the arrival of Corn Khrushchev.
          2. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 17: 24 New
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            This is when China was friendly to us? They needed us at a certain stage and no more.

            Well, they sing Russian songs and with pleasure .. I think you don’t need to upload the video? And at the UN, when the whole world "progressive" poisoned us, they supported us .. Still need examples?
            Yes, the people are specific, closed, but who they know friends ..
            1. RUSS 10 January 2020 17: 59 New
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              And at the UN, when the whole world "progressive" poisoned us, they supported us

              What kind of bullying is this? Make up again
            2. RUSS 10 January 2020 20: 20 New
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              Well, they sing Russian songs and with pleasure

              And we listen to American music, go to Hollywood movies, eat American fast food, use the CIA Internet, etc.
          3. strannik1985 10 January 2020 17: 26 New
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            We were needed at a certain stage

            China is potentially hostile to the United States, but this does not prevent them from being the largest trading partners, and China to be the recipient of FDI, which is impossible without American approval.
            The crisis between the USSR and China was due to Soviet politics, foreign and domestic.
    2. Aerodrome 10 January 2020 18: 35 New
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      If the Soviet troops of the Kwantung Army had not been dismantled in a couple of months

      Meehan ... stitch ... how? how do you manage to reincarnate every week? how ??? I'm not in my soul ... I'm going ... are you in Rostelecom working? or how ? Sims from passers-by take away? it is not normal ! ADMINISTS! that's impossible ! which member does this member start a new account every week? and ? Admins, IT YOU Has with your Rules! WHAT ARE YOU BLIND? I’m spread rot for every one of you, and this one ... turned you around! Yes Yes ! on the propeller! and "Tersky" and "Nastya" our "watchful", and of course, with gusto, spit and Himself ... Horrible and Great Vadik ... here I am stuck .... I said out loud THIS NAME .... not remember ... just don't remember. Admins of the Military Review ... YOU WITH RESPECT, LOSHARA. as long as you have michans ... you will be jaundice. everybody hi shoot in the back ...
      1. Svarog51 10 January 2020 20: 33 New
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        Dunce You Airdrome. MIKHAN easily avoids obstacles. I suggested appointing him a TALISMAN. Let him live on the site, but without participation (no shoulder straps, no rating). Well, they don’t hear, and maybe it is difficult to implement it programmatically. And moderators generally can’t do almost anything, well, ban - that's all. And you try to help them. Talk to MIKHAN in PM, maybe it will be of use?
        1. A hundred 11 January 2020 06: 54 New
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          Dunce You Airdrome. MIKHAN easily avoids obstacles. I suggested appointing him a TALISMAN. Let him live on the site, but without participation (no shoulder straps, no rating). Well, they don’t hear, and maybe it is difficult to implement it programmatically. And moderators generally can’t do almost anything, well, ban - that's all. And you try to help them. Talk to MIKHAN in PM, maybe it will be of use?

          I agree to the dialogue and even apologize to whom I offended .. I stuck to the site .. This is a matter of principle already hi
          1. Svarog51 11 January 2020 07: 10 New
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            I agree to the dialogue and even apologize to whom I offended .. I stuck to the site .. This is a matter of principle already

            Hold on, old man. hi
            1. A hundred 11 January 2020 07: 19 New
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              I agree to the dialogue and even apologize to whom I offended .. I stuck to the site .. This is a matter of principle already

              Hold on, old man. hi

              Thank you Sergey for your support ..! I try, though, every time it’s more difficult to break through, the hunt is right for me .. hi
              1. Svarog51 11 January 2020 07: 39 New
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                To someone, you, Vitaly, crossed the road, once the hunt goes. request
                1. A hundred 11 January 2020 07: 43 New
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                  To someone, you, Vitaly, crossed the road, once the hunt goes. request

                  Stew is the reason hehe heh
                  1. Svarog51 11 January 2020 07: 51 New
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                    Stew is the reason hehe heh

                    Yes, even cat food can’t work out of you - old and sinewy. In general - not edible. lol
                    1. A hundred 11 January 2020 08: 15 New
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                      In general - not edible. lol

                      And yet they are eating and not even choking .. wassat
  9. Svarog 10 January 2020 16: 22 New
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    Stalin made a huge contribution to the victory over fascism: if the USSR lost in the war against the fascists, then Germany and Japan would unite - the fate of China would be unhappy.

    The USSR won the war, and modern Russia was enslaved by Western Gauleiters, and soon all achievements will be poached ... but China has chosen the right path ..
    1. RUSS 10 January 2020 16: 27 New
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      soon, in general, all achievements will be poher ..

      It remains not to wait long.
      Quote: Svarog
      but China has chosen the right path ..

      Half the world is developing at a tremendous pace from Southeast Asia to the United States, and we are all looking for our way .....
      1. Svarog 10 January 2020 16: 31 New
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        Half of the world is developing at a tremendous pace from Southeast Asia to the United States, and we are all looking for our way ....

        The whole problem is that we are not looking for anything .. we have sat down on oil and gas, a narrow circle of people is happy with everything .. And actually, you don’t need to look for anything, you just need to adapt the USSR model to modern realities ..
    2. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 16: 50 New
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      The USSR won the war, and modern Russia was enslaved by Western Gauleiters and soon all achievements will be poached

      Well, not all of course, but it’s coming to this ... The worst thing is poisoned from all sides, when the howl rises from the inside again, as in the 90s ..
      Quote: Svarog
      but China has chosen the right path ..

      China immediately rolled out tanks of all its neoliberals and then constantly shot down officials and all kinds of talkers .. So we all see now .. Well done, what to say!
      1. RUSS 10 January 2020 17: 05 New
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        China immediately rolled out tanks of all neoliberals

        Is this your method? Is that right? To push tanks in the square?
        1. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 17: 32 New
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          China immediately rolled out tanks of all neoliberals

          Is this your method? Is that right? To push tanks in the square?

          Sometimes it’s necessary when some outside forces try to destroy the state from the inside, without military action (remember all sorts of springs, etc.)))) ..
          And China did it on time, unlike the USSR! And he adjusted his internal economic and political tactics and quite successfully ..
          It’s too late to argue .. Russia again wants to breed in the dashing 90s, only in a more bloody and destructive scenario ..
          We need to hold on to men, and then we'll figure it out ..
          1. RUSS 10 January 2020 18: 00 New
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            Sometimes it’s necessary when some outside forces try to destroy the state from the inside

            Would you sit in a tank and push the people?
            1. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 18: 28 New
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              Quote: RUSS
              Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar
              Sometimes it’s necessary when some outside forces try to destroy the state from the inside

              Would you sit in a tank and push the people?

              Well, on the Maidan, it wasn’t the people there, but the demons under the drugs and not in large numbers who took power with external support ..
              There was no armor there, only the "Golden Eagle" which suffered heavy losses .. They simply burned and shot from the underside .... Do you want this to start in Russia too?
              1. RUSS 10 January 2020 18: 53 New
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                Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar
                Sometimes it’s necessary when some outside forces try to destroy the state from the inside

                Would you sit in a tank and push the people?

                Well, on the Maidan, it wasn’t the people there, but the demons under the drugs and not in large numbers who took power with external support ..
                There was no armor there, only the "Golden Eagle" which suffered heavy losses .. They simply burned and shot from the underside .... Do you want this to start in Russia too?

                I’ll ask the question more specifically, sit in the tank and go to crush the neoliberals on Red Square, as the students crushed the students on Tiananmen before? ”But you justify those events, namely the crush of people.
                1. Umalta 10 January 2020 20: 13 New
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                  I’m going to sit down and shoot reptiles with my teeth and not for the sake of power and not for the wealth of compradors, but for the future of the peoples of our country to which you do not belong.
                  1. RUSS 10 January 2020 20: 22 New
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                    I’m going to sit down and shoot reptiles with my teeth and not for power

                    And how do you determine who he is, an internal enemy?
                    1. Svarog51 10 January 2020 21: 25 New
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                      Here Gleb Zheglov gave a good definition to the internal enemy.
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      not correct but your own. with our mentality, the same path stupidly does not suit us.
  10. knn54 10 January 2020 16: 23 New
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    In China, Stalin is not subject to oblivion.
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      In China, Stalin is not subject to oblivion.

      The revival of China began with him, but some began to trample on his memory and brought all this to the collapse of the USSR, etc.
  11. Thrifty 10 January 2020 16: 56 New
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    The first helicopter carrier to be built must be named in honor of Stalin! The country is simply obliged to have a military unit in its Armed Forces, or a unit named in honor of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin!
    1. Karen 10 January 2020 17: 07 New
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      Today’s Kremlin kibbutz is more likely to be named after Trotsky than Stalin ...
    2. RUSS 10 January 2020 17: 08 New
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      The first helicopter carrier to be built,

      What are you talking about?
      1. Thrifty 10 January 2020 17: 30 New
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        RUSS is me about the fact that we must not forget history, and the people who played a huge and sometimes decisive role in the development of the country! Whether you like Stalin or not, this is a world-wide figure, and few people can be put next to it on the same level as the country developed!
        1. RUSS 10 January 2020 18: 01 New
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          RUSS is me about not forgetting the story

          I asked about helicopter carriers?
          1. Thrifty 10 January 2020 18: 18 New
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            RUSS -so it’s like this year 2 of these will begin to be built in Crimea, that's what I mean!
            1. RUSS 10 January 2020 18: 54 New
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              RUSS -so it’s like this year 2 of these will begin to be built in Crimea, that's what I mean!

              Keyword start. We have a lot that started or started up a series.
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  13. PValery53 10 January 2020 19: 27 New
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    It is noteworthy that after I.V. Stalin the highest post in the USSR was taken by a man (N.S. Khrushchev), who in the "retinue" of Stalin played the role of a pea jester!
  14. Umalta 10 January 2020 20: 08 New
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    Some idiots, especially those ethnically related to those who were to be immediately destroyed by the Nazis, say that it would be better if the union lost the war, but do not forget that Belarusians, Ukrainians, most of the Baltic states would be genocide, there was an order to save only the children of blondes, with blue eyes. All Caucasian peoples would also be destroyed. All areas of present-day Ukraine, as well as the northern Caucasus, were subject to settlement by German colonists.
    1. Karen 10 January 2020 20: 47 New
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      most of the Balts were instructed to keep only blond children with blue eyes.

      If I remember correctly, 25 years were allotted for total Germanization of the Baltic states ...
      1. RUSS 10 January 2020 21: 07 New
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        If I remember correctly, 25 years were allotted for total Germanization of the Baltic states ...

        In Estonia, even before the war, the German language was in use, in many educational institutions it was taught and Estonians were comfortable with it.
        1. eckons 10 January 2020 21: 58 New
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          At different times in Estonia it was different. They had to speak both German and Swedish, and Russian, and Estonians were comfortable with it.
          1. RUSS 10 January 2020 22: 47 New
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            They had to speak both German and Swedish, and Russian, and Estonians were comfortable with it.

            In Swedish, when is this? During the tenure of these territories in Sweden? Have you come up with?
            But as for the Russian language, he didn’t like them at all, ask the Russians who lived or lives in Estonia, but rather ask the military who served in the Estonian SSR.
            1. eckons 11 January 2020 01: 46 New
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              Come up with what? What were they under the Swedes? At the expense of the Russian language, you interviewed them all, or so an artistic whistle.
      2. Umalta 10 January 2020 21: 52 New
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        Total Germanization was subject to those that, according to anthropometric indicators developed by specialists of the 3rd Reich, fit the concept of "Aryan".
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    If it would, it would become JAPAN.
  16. nikvic46 11 January 2020 06: 07 New
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    Soon there will be 30 years as we are in the subjunctive history. Some people consider this a useful thing. But the bottom line is that we took part of this story for facts. That is, we chose a set of anti-Soviet voices, changed our minds and you're done. Stalin-Hitler found themselves on the same board in our publication. Many have already forgotten the names of the marshals of the USSR, but they know the White Guard commanders well. It is in their opinion that these people cherished for Russia. Apparently, it is very beneficial for someone in the heads of our citizens full jumble.
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    The fate of ALL mankind would be sad.