The situation in Libya: Marshal Haftar made "fi" to Presidents Putin and Erdogan

The recent visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin to Istanbul on the occasion of the launch of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline was overshadowed by the tension that arose between Moscow and Ankara due to the divergence of interests in Syria and Libya.


When the allies became rivals


Last year, Recep Erdogan started a big game in Libya, the meaning of which is to ensure Turkish control over the eastern Mediterranean. In late November, Turkey signed two Memorandums of Understanding with the Government of Libyan National Unity (PNE) in Tripoli.

The first concerned security issues and military cooperation. In accordance with this document, the PNE expected to receive military equipment and weapons from Erdogan, and even the help of military specialists.

The second was dedicated to limiting jurisdiction at sea. So Ankara and Tripoli were going to protect their rights in the coastal waters of Libya, a significant part of which is controlled today by an alternative government in Tobruk together with the Libyan National Army (LNA) under the command of Khalifa Haftar.

By signing these documents, Recep Erdogan made it clear to the world that he was ready to intervene in the internal Libyan conflict and restore order in the country. President Erdogan saw the Turkish mission in Libya similar to the mission of Russian forces in Syria. The only difference is that Ankara claimed full control of the PNE in Tripoli.

This task was initially difficult to solve, since in the torn African country the interests of almost all the leading world powers converged. The Libyan government (PNE) in Tripoli is supported by Turkey, Qatar, Italy, the USA, Tunisia, and Great Britain. For LNA Haftar, it seems, advocate France, Russia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, China.

This alignment of forces arose in 2014, when Libya almost split into two countries (not counting the small regions in the south controlled by local tribes). Then, as we recall, an acute conflict arose within the Libyan government, which ended with the demarcation. One of the forces remained in Tripoli. The second (the Libyan parliament - the House of Representatives) - has moved to the city of Tobruk in the east of the country.

Very soon, the power of Tobruk with the help of the LNA Marshal (officially - General) Khalifa Haftar spread to most of Libya with its oil fields, gas pipelines, coastal ports. Naturally, the investors of these projects initially showed loyalty to the eastern government of Libya, and then switched to its direct support.

That’s how it came to be, in which even traditional allies (France and Italy, the United States and Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar, etc.) were on opposite sides of the Libyan conflict. This confrontation to some extent led to stabilization of the situation.

The feeling of near victory played a cruel joke with Marshal


For years, the parties maintained their positions until Haftar launched a decisive attack on Tripoli last April. At first, it developed very successfully. LNA forces even occupied the suburbs and part of the Libyan capital. Then the sluggish Arab war, familiar to the world, followed, with a series of rare counterattacks and the quick surrender of their positions.

This time was remembered by the erratic escape of the Haftar army from the previously conquered city of Garyan. During the retreat, the LNA threw a lot weapons. Including Chinese drones, artillery shells from the UAE, Russian-made land-to-air missiles, American anti-tank missiles Javelin, etc.

The latter turned out to be a French supply. Paris then had a long time to make excuses to Washington. However, he could not clearly explain how the American Javelin ended up with General Haftar.

This case showed that the support of the Haftar army is quite serious. Tripoli will not be easy to deal with. It was then that the PNE government requested assistance from Turkish President Erdogan. Erdogan promised assistance and even recently sent Turkish troops to Tripoli, although he realized that this could upset his relationship with Moscow.

Intense conflict resolved in the most prosperous way. In Istanbul, Putin and Erdogan were able to smooth out the contradictions and came up with a common initiative to end the hostilities in Libya from 00:00 on January 12.

It seems that this decision was made without consulting Marshal Haftar, and he reacted instantly by making his “fi”. Within a few hours, the LNA official, General Ahmed al-Mismari, thanked the presidents of Russia and Turkey for the initiative “aimed at establishing peace in Libya,” said that the Haftar’s army would continue the war “against terrorist groups classified as such by UN Security Council resolutions.”

Khalifa Haftara can be understood. After a series of setbacks, he finally achieved military success, took the hometown of Muammar Gaddafi Sirt, the adjacent military bases and is now dreaming of taking Tripoli. Only he is unlikely to be able to do this without the support of his high patrons.

It cannot be ruled out that disrespect for the initiative of two authoritative presidents may cost the ambitious Khalifa Haftar such a long-awaited victory in Libya.
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  1. prior 10 January 2020 17: 13 New
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    Just at the Libyan hippodrome, Putin and Erdogan put on different horses.
    The race will continue in any weather ..... until the last Arabian horse.
    1. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 20: 17 New
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      Quote: prior
      Just at the Libyan hippodrome, Putin and Erdogan put on different horses.

      Well, it’s not yet evening .. Look at how some forces tried to pit Russia and really .. hi
      Bets can be different and large .. But who comes to the finish line together .. hi
      Soon, "gentlemen" rejoice here .. While your takes in the info war, but this does not mean that we have changed our worldview and tactics negative
      Everything is relative .. Maybe we will meet when you start running negative
      Not all of them have passports and accounts over the hill ..?
      1. Kronos 10 January 2020 22: 48 New
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        How much you do not leave comments and every time some kind of nonsense is off topic
        1. cradle 11 January 2020 04: 24 New
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          it's just old age
          1. Astra wild 11 January 2020 07: 05 New
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            In fact, old age must be respected.
            1. cradle 11 January 2020 10: 38 New
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              It would be for what. They say with old age comes wisdom. But see, not to everyone.
              1. Captain Pushkin 11 January 2020 11: 11 New
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                Alas, with old age more often Alzheimer, or his younger relatives ...
  2. Deniska999 10 January 2020 17: 18 New
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    In Libya, that Haftar, that his opponents stand each other.
  3. Thrifty 10 January 2020 17: 23 New
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    Firstly, to the same Haftaru, we can put weapons through third hands, and secondly, what happened to Erdogad when he shot down our plane-nothing! So, Haftar can beg forgiveness, and get weapons from Russia further! It is enough to give guarantees that our oil industry will eventually receive good oil fields for development in Libya. ..
    1. dvina71 10 January 2020 18: 14 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      happened to Erdogad when he shot down our plane - nothing!

      Typical manipulation ... Erdogan did not shoot down on Su ... it did the f-16 Turkish air force. Even his reaction to this was slurred .. A huge number of Turkish army officers were trained in the states. These people tried to make a coup in Turkey. What prevented them from giving a command to attack our Su-24? The goal is simple .. if not war, then at least confrontation. Further actions of the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation speaks for this version. Economically, Turkey suffered considerable losses from Russian measures. So to speak, the carrot and stick method. Now Turkey is a buyer of Russian weapons, a consumer of Russian gas, South Stream ..
      If we talk about Libya. The Hawtor in Russia did not receive any support. His only visit to Moscow speaks about this. Assad during this time has been to Russia several times .. The Russian leadership has repeatedly stated - business is being done only with the legitimate structures of the country .. In Libya, there are none at this time.
      1. Astra wild 11 January 2020 07: 14 New
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        "there are no such people in Libya now," but what about the PNE? They seem to be recognized by the international community.
    2. cradle 11 January 2020 04: 25 New
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      lately, Russians have become not so much to deceive promises
  4. mitrich 10 January 2020 17: 25 New
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    I wanted to write: the main thing is that ours could pump oil from there. And then he thought: who is ours? All these oligarchs prigozhiny-rotenberg and others like them? So from this their son-wife-lover will become richer. And foreign accounts will swell. And we only coffins. So far, the Wagnegists and our other PMCs.
    1. Nikitich 10 January 2020 17: 56 New
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      100%. And under the guise of “PMC”, children of slaves will go for a piece of bread.
      1. Nikolay87 10 January 2020 18: 27 New
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        Quote: Nikitich
        100%. And under the guise of “PMC”, children of slaves will go for a piece of bread.

        They are not there by force. I doubt that they are forced. They get paid for it.
        1. iouris 11 January 2020 00: 35 New
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          Quote: Nikolay87
          They are not there by force.

          And where else can they earn "decently"? Do they have a choice? By the way, how much money is allowed to take with you to the "other world"?
          1. Nikolay87 11 January 2020 07: 01 New
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            Quote: iouris
            Quote: Nikolay87
            They are not there by force.

            And where else can they earn "decently"? Do they have a choice? By the way, how much money is allowed to take with you to the "other world"?

            What kind of nonsense? Are you trying to convince me that they have no choice?
    2. Nikolay87 10 January 2020 18: 32 New
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      Quote: mitrich
      I wanted to write: the main thing is that ours could pump oil from there. And then he thought: who is ours? All these oligarchs prigozhiny-rotenberg and others like them? So from this their son-wife-lover will become richer. And foreign accounts will swell. And we only coffins. So far, the Wagnegists and our other PMCs.

      You are right and wrong at the same time. I understand your feelings. On the one hand, we understand that capitalism, on the other hand, the interests of the country, the Russians, patriotism, etc.
      The thing is that if you give up your positions everywhere so that you don’t feed your oligarchs, they will start taking more of their own because no one has canceled the laws of capitalism. But how else to live in our country so far no one can clearly explain.
      1. Grandfather 10 January 2020 18: 58 New
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        Quote: Nikolay87
        I understand your feelings. On the one hand, we understand that capitalism, on the other hand, the interests of the country, the Russians, patriotism, etc.

        excuse me ... there is no other side ... I’ll fuck the Russians., for them - zero ... in your opinion, zero ... Oh.
        1. Nikolay87 10 January 2020 19: 12 New
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          excuse me ... there is no other side ... I’ll fuck the Russians., for them - zero ... in your opinion, zero ... Oh.

          I wrote that in retreat, they will start raising taxes in the country, blocking holes in the budget at the expense of their own. Fuck you, I don’t.
          1. bar
            bar 10 January 2020 20: 09 New
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            Fuck you, I don’t.

            Will you go to fight for the oligarchs, if only they would not raise taxes? The same position ...
            1. Nikolay87 10 January 2020 20: 13 New
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              Quote: bar
              Fuck you, I don’t.

              Will you go to fight for the oligarchs, if only they would not raise taxes? The same position ...

              Why should I go? There are people who do this better than me, and most importantly they have a desire, in contrast to me, to earn money in this way.
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      2. Grits 11 January 2020 05: 27 New
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        Quote: Nikolay87
        The thing is that if you give up your positions everywhere so that you don’t feed your oligarchs, they will start taking more from their own because no one has canceled the laws of capitalism

        By your logic, should the Russian people send their sons to war so that our business sharks and other oligarchs do not take off their last skin from this people? That is, to buy off before them in their desire to get rich even more, otherwise they will starve us. Fun and sophisticated you set out.
        1. Nikolay87 11 January 2020 07: 11 New
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          Quote: Gritsa
          Quote: Nikolay87
          The thing is that if you give up your positions everywhere so that you don’t feed your oligarchs, they will start taking more from their own because no one has canceled the laws of capitalism

          By your logic, should the Russian people send their sons to war so that our business sharks and other oligarchs do not take off their last skin from this people? That is, to buy off before them in their desire to get rich even more, otherwise they will starve us. Fun and sophisticated you set out.

          I set out as it really is. Not in soft and beautiful words, but in the forehead blurted out the truth to you. But you, like many others, are not ready to hear it so much, and it’s easier for you to be blissfully unaware. If you are not ready to accept reality, this does not mean that I am wrong.
          The Russian people do not send their sons to war, they go there at will. We are not waging an active war with anyone. We take part in the CTO on the territory of the Union State. And you will not believe, but all laurels, i.e. contracts for joint production of hydrocarbons will be received by Russian companies headed by "oligarchs" and not the Russian proletariat. Learn the materiel already in the end.
        2. nickname7 11 January 2020 13: 07 New
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          According to your logic, the Russian people should send their sons to war so that our business sharks

          If not hypocritical, then this is a world practice, where politics is a dirty business, led by the greed of immoral people. I’m not justifying it, but stating a fact. An empire over which the sun did not set was made not out of kindness, but because of greed, how many glorious Irish people perished, New Zealand Indians cannot be counted.
    3. Grits 11 January 2020 05: 23 New
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      Quote: mitrich
      I wanted to write: the main thing is that ours could pump oil from there. And then he thought: who is ours?

      If this oil was pumped to our refineries or turned into gold with subsequent receipt of the country's budget (as it was in the USSR), then the military could have fought for such a bite. And so ... why butt, so that money flows into foreign banks, converting into regular yachts with the cost of an aircraft carrier?
      1. Nikolay87 11 January 2020 07: 18 New
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        Quote: Gritsa
        Quote: mitrich
        I wanted to write: the main thing is that ours could pump oil from there. And then he thought: who is ours?

        If this oil was pumped to our refineries or turned into gold with subsequent receipt of the country's budget (as it was in the USSR), then the military could have fought for such a bite. And so ... why butt, so that money flows into foreign banks, converting into regular yachts with the cost of an aircraft carrier?

        Your benefit here, as a mere human being, is a reduction in terrorist activity, which will be less evident in our country. Therefore, I say that it is not entirely correct to measure everything with money.
    4. Cyrus 11 January 2020 07: 56 New
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      In fact, thanks to the currency that the oil industry earns, you can carry this nonsense here in comments, if it weren’t, there wouldn’t be your opinion on this site
  5. svp67 10 January 2020 17: 29 New
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    After a series of setbacks, he finally achieved military success, took the hometown of Muammar Gaddafi Sirt, the adjacent military bases and is now dreaming of taking Tripoli. Only he is unlikely to be able to do this without the support of his high patrons.
    Why is everyone silent about who is now the oil structure deployed around Sirte? Who owns it, owns a lot of money ...
    1. Astra wild 11 January 2020 07: 27 New
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      Such an option is also possible: Haftar will gain a foothold in the district of Sirte, he then understands that he owns: a "golden key", and will pinch PNE. In this case, there will be two forces in Libya: real and relatively real
      1. svp67 11 January 2020 08: 38 New
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        Quote: Astra wild
        Such an option is also possible: Haftar will gain a foothold in the district of Sirte, he then understands that he owns: a "golden key", and will pinch PNE. In this case, there will be two forces in Libya: real and relatively real
        As in any civil war
  6. knn54 10 January 2020 17: 34 New
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    Turks, despite agreements with Russia, will continue to support terrorists PNS Libya
    1. Nyrobsky 10 January 2020 21: 06 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Turks, despite agreements with Russia, will continue to support terrorists PNS Libya

      I think so that here the GDP and Edik have a change of interests - we in Libya do not interfere much with him, he does not strongly rest against Idlib. But on the topic of how other participants supporting the warring parties will behave and in order to freeze the conflict within the existing borders, an initiative to ceasefire by all parties was born, which Haftar rejected.
  7. Sergey39 10 January 2020 17: 43 New
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    This initiative of Putin and Erdogan may well be a spectacle.
    1. Nikolay87 10 January 2020 18: 22 New
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      And there is. Only performances are in theaters, but here it is called politics. At the meeting, they express mutual solidarity on issues whose opinions coincide and that's all. It doesn’t happen that they go to a press conference and one says that "it is necessary", and the other that "is not necessary." And even if insidious journalists ask provocative questions, they always have vague answers “We will closely monitor” “This question needs to be carefully studied” I’m not afraid to say “I need to clarify” (c) Jen Psaki wassat
      1. cradle 11 January 2020 04: 29 New
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        Psaki is already a classic ... unsurpassed in its stupidity. One last name is worth it! And .... liso .... it's something!
  8. Connor MacLeod 10 January 2020 17: 59 New
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    Haftara on the soap! negative There is a legitimate government and it must be supported! drinks
    1. Nikolay87 10 January 2020 18: 25 New
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      And the legal is the one that formed after, and maybe during, when Gaddafi was killed?
      1. bar
        bar 10 January 2020 20: 12 New
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        The lawful is that which the stripes have "legalized."
        1. Connor MacLeod 10 January 2020 20: 22 New
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          Americans for Haftar.
      2. Connor MacLeod 10 January 2020 20: 21 New
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        Legitimate is one that is recognized by the United Nations.
    2. cradle 11 January 2020 04: 31 New
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      Do you have enough soap? Tweet the address, I'll send it. And the legitimate governments there ended with the death of Gaddafi. NOW!
      1. Connor MacLeod 11 January 2020 04: 45 New
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        I’ll remind you of this conversation in a couple of months, when Haftar will finish the PNS force and the first thing he will meet Pompeo with an official visit to Libya and at the joint conference he will shake his hand tightly. drinks And you, as always, will sit with your eyes clapping: "How so? Again they pricked us! Who knew!" crying

        Time will tell! fool
        1. Astra wild 11 January 2020 07: 30 New
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          The most reasonable words: "Time will tell."
      2. Nikolay87 11 January 2020 07: 39 New
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        Quote: besik
        Do you have enough soap? Tweet the address, I'll send it. And the legitimate governments there ended with the death of Gaddafi. NOW!

        In fact, Gaddafi came to power as a result of a military coup. He was a good ruler or not and it was good for us or not - this is a completely different matter.
        1. cradle 11 January 2020 12: 28 New
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          “This is an amendment, but it does not detract from its support by the people up to 80%. Because it is legitimate
  9. parusnik 10 January 2020 18: 23 New
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    We agreed, Russia decided to act with Erdogan’s hands, Haftar is not needed yet .. but for now ...
  10. samarin1969 10 January 2020 18: 45 New
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    The illegibility of the Russian Federation in the “partners” is hardly anyone misleading. It is naive to believe that Haftar is an independent figure and depends on the Russian Federation. He and his people are at stake. And this motive is more significant than gas, "democracy" or recognition of the "world community."
  11. RoTTor 10 January 2020 20: 49 New
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    facebook.com/Transpress_viczel-178637738821455
    Among TWO passengers-citizens of Ukraine who died on 08.01.2020/737/800 in the B plane crash in Tehran was ... Elena Sergeyevna Malakhova - director of Skyaviatrans LLC.

    The same one, which in an unknown way turned out to be military transport planes that disappeared from the Armed Forces and repeatedly caught in the illegal transportation of military cargo, bypassing international sanctions. Including in Libya, which year is seized by a war provoked by NATO. One side of this AK was destroyed in August 2019 ..
    Already the familiar, vile double-dealing, for which they despise: it is illegal to carry weapons to two parties to the conflict.
  12. steelmaker 10 January 2020 22: 04 New
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    Putin and Lavrov are obsessed with negotiations. In LDNR, Mariupol should have been taken and could generally free the floor of Ukraine. No, it is necessary just at this time to arrange a cease-fire, negotiations. With Japan, Putin pulled out a 1956 treaty and let's arrange negotiations! Haftar controls 80% of Libya. He needs CAPITULATION of American sixes! And to show his significance to Putin. Laurels of a peacemaker do not give rest ?! Haftar will cope without Putin now!
    1. nickname7 11 January 2020 13: 18 New
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      Mariupol had to take and could generally free the floor of Ukraine

      You don’t have any problems abroad, it’s easy for you to write, but imagine what it is for important people, because there you can earn unbearable wealth, there you have bought estates, castles and ranches, all this will be arrested.
  13. Isim soyad 11 January 2020 10: 37 New
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    Everything is as planned GDP. He slightly, somewhere partially supported Haftar, and on the other hand, legally Edik, and so the GDP had some kind of control on both sides (through Edik, he does and says, everything that the GDP says, no more, no less, he owes him his life). Then the main thing was to expel the amers from Syria, and release Idlib. And after Idlib, you need to put the militants somewhere. The GDP knew that without agreeing in advance, Haftar would refuse, and not heed. And the GDP will be turned away, and will no longer support, they say you did not listen, so answer yourself. And without GDP, Haftar I don’t think will stay long, and it’s not profitable for GDP to pull it all. After all, he could agree in advance, and force him to this. In my opinion, GDP would not have supported Haftar to the end, to the detriment of his authoritative reputation in the world. Indeed, in Syria, he too often spoke about the legitimacy of the presence. And here, Idlib is freed from the militants, and through Edik
    The only difference is that Ankara claimed full control of the PNE in Tripoli.
    , full control of oil and gas. With all the defenders of the PNE, Turkey except Qatar has disagreements, and only Turkey is legally present. That's all that the GDP wanted.
  14. cradle 11 January 2020 10: 37 New
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    Quote: Connor MacLeod
    I’ll remind you of this conversation in a couple of months, when Haftar will finish the PNS force and the first thing he will meet Pompeo with an official visit to Libya and at the joint conference he will shake his hand tightly. drinks And you, as always, will sit with your eyes clapping: "How so? Again they pricked us! Who knew!" crying

    Time will tell! fool

    Pajive, we will see ... only Pompeo will definitely not shake his hand. We make bets.
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    yes this is political fuss - we spoke out he answered ...
    our business is to offer - your business ... you yourself know)))
    most importantly - the dogs bark and the caravan is coming!
  16. Jarserge 11 January 2020 11: 16 New
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    Despite statements by the Western press about Russia's "invasion" of Libya, Haftar is clearly not Russia. And the family of this marshal lives quietly in the USA
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  18. Mista_dj 16 January 2020 12: 40 New
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    Rather, they would have already killed each other there ...
    We will set up a naval base in Tobruk, about 300 years ago and everyone will become brighter.
  19. -ш- 1 March 2020 22: 39 New
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    "great ottoman emperor" shores beguiled