“The Sejm acts like during the Inquisition”: Poland responds to the words of Maria Zakharova


In Poland, they did not leave without reaction the note of the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, on Facebook. On her page on the social network, Maria Zakharova noted that the current Polish Sejm acts in fact in the same way as the Inquisition once acted. The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry gave such an interpretation in relation to the decision of Polish parliamentarians on historical memory.


Note by Maria Zakharova:

"The Sejm of the Republic of Poland condemns the provocative and false statements of representatives of the highest authorities of the Russian Federation, who are trying to hold Poland responsible for starting the Second World War," the resolution says. "The greatness of a nation and relations between countries cannot be built on lies and falsifications of history," “The document says.” It seems that, as during the Inquisition, science was declared heresy by the Polish Sejm, and the proponents of historical facts were accused of witchcraft. This is how ideology conquers the truth.

Maria Zakharova sums up:

But the truth is recorded by the Nuremberg Tribunal. If the Polish Sejm doubts its decisions, it is necessary to state this. This approach has its own qualifications - a review of WWII results.

In a major Polish publication, “Rzeczpospolita”, material was published that presented the statement of Maria Zakharova. The author recalled that the Polish Sejm “forcedly” reacted with its resolution to the statements of Vladimir Putin and other representatives of the Russian authorities regarding the participation of the Polish army in 1938 in the division of Czechoslovakia and the promises of the Polish ambassador to erect a monument to Hitler in Warsaw for the possible implementation of the idea of ​​expelling Jews from Europe to Africa.

One of the readers of the Polish publication writes that if there is a "great Russia" or a "great Union", then this "will in any case be a threat to Poland."

As you can see, in Poland they continue to apply the historical context only as it is beneficial to Poland itself: if someone tries to raise the issue of historical justice, then this is called a “threat to Poland." At the same time, the Polish authorities themselves are constantly referring to history, declaring that Poland "was a victim of World War II." The fact that Poland acted as aggressor and occupier in 1938 in Warsaw is not only not recognized, but it is also forbidden to recall those events at the legislative level.
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  1. Gardamir 10 January 2020 13: 04 New
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    For me personally, Zakharov, who said that Stalin is worse than Hitler, is the same Russophobe as the Poles.
    1. dorz 10 January 2020 13: 08 New
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      ... in Poland they continue to apply the historical context.

      On the topic, an interesting article in a respected publication:
      https://aif.ru/society/history/kelcevskaya_reznya_zachem_skryvayut_pravdu_o_samom_massovom_evreyskom_pogrome
      1. Andrzej k 10 January 2020 19: 40 New
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        I do not deny that the pogrom occurred, but to make this discovery is an exaggeration. In any case, since when was the pogrom in Kielce the most massive pogrom of Jews? Even in Poland alone during the Second Polish Republic,

        The massacre in Lviv in 1918 was about 150 victims, in Brzezani - 191 victims, and later the massacre in Lyudmilovka committed by the Polish Communists - about 100 victims ... So Poland has something to be ashamed of and apologize to :-(


        But Not only Poland:
        “Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire - the waves of anti-Semitic pogroms that took place in the Russian Empire in 1881-1884 and 1903-1906, affected primarily the Jewish population living in the settlement zone.
        In 1881–1884 there were about 250 pogroms and excesses, while in 1903–1906 Jews carried out pogroms in 64 cities and 626 cities and villages. ”
        1. dorz 11 January 2020 10: 34 New
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          The main message in the article is not about the pogrom, but about the reasons for the silence of the facts and beneficiaries of rewriting history. sad
          1. Severok 12 January 2020 00: 35 New
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            How much I didn’t receive information about the nobility and the pshek, how many I didn’t read the statements of their leaders, how many I didn’t know about their policies since the time of Yaroslav the Wise - at all times their powers have been distinguished by ambition, arrogance, arrogance, talkativeness, boasting, servility to power and greed to enrichment. And at all times, their elite voted exclusively for selfish interests and cherished their egocentrism, not being shy about the means to achieve their personal goals. Including in the politicized teaching of history, for the statement about which I received a bunch of minuses, but actually nothing has changed in Poland from that, as well as in Russia.
    2. Invoce 10 January 2020 13: 10 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      Personally for me Zakharov, who said that Stalin was worse than Hitler, the same Russophobe as the Poles.

      Confused nothing? laughing
      And what does Mark Zakharov have to do with it?
      1. Gardamir 10 January 2020 13: 21 New
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        And while the smartphone itself corrects, for example, I wrote the nickname of the main Nazi with a little one.
        So the attempt to protect Masha failed.
        1. Sayan 10 January 2020 13: 26 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          And while the smartphone itself corrects, for example, I wrote the nickname of the main Nazi with a little one.
          So the attempt to protect Masha failed.

          Go to your smartphone’s settings and turn off the auto editor. And do not lie - Zakharov did not say such a thing.
          1. Invoce 10 January 2020 13: 37 New
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            Gardamir I heard something, but did not catch up ... I spoke out to raise the rating .... negative
            Mark Zakharov was smeared with statements against I. Stalin, but the deceased is either good or nothing! It was a long time ago, and he needed money at the dawn of the formation of wild liberal-selling capitalism in Russia ...
            1. Vladimir_2U 10 January 2020 13: 39 New
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              Quote: Invoce
              but the deceased is either good or nothing!

              Either good, or nothing but the truth.
            2. Gardamir 10 January 2020 14: 14 New
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              Lord, another troll on my head. 100% perfectly understand what I mean Masha Zakharovu.
            3. ufpb 10 January 2020 14: 21 New
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              "About the dead either good or the truth." - so says the proverb, not your invention.
          2. RUSS 10 January 2020 14: 33 New
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            Quote: Sayan
            . And do not lie - Zakharov did not say such a thing.

            She spoke, and then she tried to get out.
            1. Elena Zakharova 10 January 2020 21: 54 New
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              Is there a link to such a statement?
              Or, as always, a statement from the ceiling?
          3. Senya Sem 11 January 2020 05: 25 New
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            Go to smartphone settings and turn off the auto editor
            What, then, he will not be able to write at all.
        2. Invoce 10 January 2020 13: 31 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          And while the smartphone itself corrects, for example, I wrote the nickname of the main Nazi with a little one.
          So the attempt to protect Masha failed.

          laughing Look at the rating of your mistakes. And correct yourself "attempt Pass-Failed" laughing
    3. Olis 10 January 2020 13: 16 New
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      For me personally, Zakharov, who said that Stalin is worse than Hitler, is the same Russophobe

      Stalin was Georgian, not Russian. So it would be more appropriate then to call Zakharov a Georgian phobia. laughing
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    4. Loess 10 January 2020 13: 23 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      who said that Stalin was worse than Hitler,

      Uh ... I’m sorry, but do you have a link to Zakharova’s “direct text”? Just reading your comment, I tried to find these words for a good 15 minutes, but only the “righteous anger” of the commentators of this event was posted on the network. But I did not find specific statements. I would like to read or hear her words myself and, accordingly, determine my opinion on this issue.
      1. Invoce 10 January 2020 13: 37 New
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        Gardamir I heard something, but did not catch up ... I spoke out to raise the rating .... negative
        Mark Zakharov was smeared with statements against I. Stalin, but the deceased is either good or nothing! It was a long time ago, and he needed money at the dawn of the formation of wild liberal-selling capitalism in Russia ...
      2. rich 10 January 2020 13: 39 New
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        Colleagues confuse - that Stalin spoke worse than Hitler not M. Zakharova, but Narusev
      3. Stirbjorn 10 January 2020 13: 45 New
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        Quote: Less
        Uh ... I’m sorry, but do you have a link to Zakharova’s “direct text”?
        Enlighten wink
        1. Loess 10 January 2020 14: 02 New
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          The first comment is about nothing at all. And the second - where are the words of Roman? What is it all about? So far, it is more like taking it out of context. Exactly, I also found on the network, but without the words of its opponents what it is about - you will excuse me - you cannot make a judgment. Again in the words of Gardamir it was that "Stalin is worse" than the possessed corporal. What you cited as an example, so far, is like "pulling an owl on a globe." And I, personally, would like to understand this issue.
        2. Alex Justice 10 January 2020 17: 45 New
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          Pol Pot destroyed a third of the population. Chile. Many other countries.
          Stalin and Lenin, of course, surpassed everyone.
        3. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 19: 13 New
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          I also did not think that she was a "bad lady."
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        1. Loess 10 January 2020 14: 39 New
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          Quote: RUSS
          https://skeptimist.livejournal.com/2954937.html

          Stibjorn just above the same clippings showed. And then come the thoughts of the author of the article. But thanks anyway. On the network, by the way, there is nothing besides this either.
      5. Gardamir 10 January 2020 19: 45 New
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        [Quote] Links to the "direct text" by Zakharova? [/ Quote]
        https://yablor.ru/blogs/mariya-zaharova-stalin-huje-gitlera/5793423
        or here
        http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2016/3/2/22429251/
        [quote] She objected in a friendly manner: "Maria, do not be liberal and not be modest with Stalin: his methods have always been useful to Russia." And then Zakharova issued her main pearl, after which thousands of people in the country shook their hands in disappointment. "Leaders who destroyed their people burn in hell twice as bright as those who destroyed a stranger," said a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry.

        The phrase is more than famous. There can be no mistake: in the first part it was precisely Stalin that was meant (this is also evident from the context), while the second always, without exception, refers to Hitler. “Stalin is worse than Hitler,” the “talking head” of the foreign ministry actually postulated, as soon as she got to the point of expressing her own thoughts in the second hour of the night.

        No one pulled her tongue. Nobody beat out the fatal phrase under torture. Obviously, for Zakharova this judgment is natural. Easily fits into personal ideas about the history of the country.
        1. Loess 10 January 2020 20: 22 New
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          Yeah, see, thanks. I believe that it is not correct to drag Stalin’s comparison with the Fuhrer to this dialogue. I will explain. If I say that a bank robber is worse than a painter, then a comparison of these two figures can also be attached to me on the same basis. For Stalin appears as one of the attackers on the Treasury's carriage, and the future Fuhrer lived around the same years writing paintings and postcards.
          Thank you for links and copying other people's words. However, as I understand it, it is now impossible to find the full text of the dialogue and only individual phrases will be walking on the network ... With relevant comments from interested parties.
          1. Gardamir 10 January 2020 20: 38 New
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            If I say that a bank robber is worse than a painter,
            Here you are a little disingenuous, you need to take those actions that are last and outweigh all other acts.
    5. spirit 10 January 2020 13: 25 New
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      So this person can’t have an opinion) she only defends the opinion of her master, who didn’t really like the USSR, if tomorrow he says that Stalin was the best leader in the world, this person will sit in a zombie with a T-shirt on with his image hi
      1. Aerodrome 10 January 2020 13: 46 New
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        “The Sejm acts like during the Inquisition”: Poland responds to the words of Maria Zakharova
        not .. Poles need to be reasoned, without with PORO ... as long as there is an opportunity ... I hope they hear and heed ... yes the antagonism is great, which is already there ... you don’t love us ... we "loved" you more than once ... calm down, just live quietly and that’s it. we won’t especially notice you, you are just silent. and everything will be smooth. do not behave like a “pricked” girlfriend of a “dependent”. And all will be well. we trade ... we drive, we are silent, it’s already good. wink otherwise ...
    6. Olgovich 10 January 2020 14: 36 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      For me personally, Zakharov, who said that Stalin is worse than Hitler, is the same Russophobe as the Poles.

      Zakharova:
      А the truth is fixed Nuremberg Tribunal. If the Polish Sejm doubts its decisions, it is necessary to state this

      and she absolutely right

      like the article:
      in 1938 Poland acted as aggressor and occupier

      that's it formulate in RESOLUTIONS of the State Duma Russia to send to the European Parliament, which rewrite Nuremberg.

      Let first condemn Roosevelt and Churchill.
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  2. olhon 10 January 2020 13: 05 New
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    The poles are stuck. For a long time already it is necessary to provide data of the Polish intelligence on launches of the Thors in Tehran.
    1. cniza 10 January 2020 13: 20 New
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      The owner has not yet given a command ...
  3. Alexander Suvorov 10 January 2020 13: 08 New
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    As Poland was a hyena of Europe, so it remained. In a stranger's eye they see a mote, but in their logs they do not notice.
    1. Artunis 10 January 2020 13: 25 New
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      More likely a prostitute.
      1. Alexander Suvorov 10 January 2020 13: 31 New
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        Well, Churchill even called them a hyena, and as for prostitution, they are competing with Ukraine for the honorary title of the most sorry * forgive * forgive * tutki in Europe. And, no, I forgot the tribalt, those also are not against * sorry Turkey. In general, the United States in Europe will not remain without sex.

        P.S. I wonder why you have the word prostitute written, but it’s blocked for me?
    2. businessv 10 January 2020 19: 56 New
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      As Poland was a hyena of Europe, so it remained.

      There is nothing left to do but repeat the comment a week earlier: The fact is that Poland cannot be an independent state, they have proved it many times with their stupid antics to their neighbors, as a result of which they became the outskirts of the country towards which they took aggressive actions. They were also Russia. In this regard, they have developed a permanent inferiority complex, which they again, over and over again, try to drown out with their stupid antics and Greater Poland chauvinism. Sick people, God bless them. hi
      1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 13: 09 New
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        Unfortunately, but the level of the current Polish authorities is influenced by many years of captivity under the partitions, these noble but stupid rebellions that cost the lives of young and real patriots and the murders of the Polish intelligentsia by invaders / occupiers - both Germany and Russia.

        Instead of seeking consent and peaceful coexistence within the framework of autonomy for the sake of our own people (even modeled after Finland until 1917), people who think of coexistence in the Russian Empire as Count Velopolsky or Drutsky-Lyubetskiy, unfortunately, are regarded as traitors to state interests ,

        So it turns out that we have to have Big Brother, which our authorities must jump over - if the USSR disappeared, we took the United States, and instead of the SA we will have US army bases.

        This is stupid.
        As for the complex, however, I do not agree - given that, in my opinion, the behavior of the Russian authorities and the media is controlled (as confirmed by the flow of articles even on this page), it is difficult to resist the impression that Russia has a Polish complex.

        It is a pity - good-neighborly relations benefit both our countries and nations. USA and others benefit from our quarrel and debate
        1. businessv 11 January 2020 21: 07 New
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          Quote: Andrzej K
          It is a pity - good-neighborly relations benefit both our countries and nations. USA and others benefit from our quarrel and debate

          Great post, colleague! If there were more such patriots in Poland, it would be easier and calmer for everyone to live! Thank! Powodzenia i sukcesów !!
        2. n0001 12 January 2020 19: 15 New
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          Man, you study better.
  4. Invoce 10 January 2020 13: 08 New
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    Poles are sworn partners of Russia and the entire Orthodox world laughing
    1. Russobel 10 January 2020 13: 18 New
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      We must also prohibit, at the legislative level, ,,,, Poland!
  5. cniza 10 January 2020 13: 19 New
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    One of the readers of the Polish publication writes that if there is a "great Russia" or a "great Union", then this "will in any case be a threat to Poland."


    It hurts, probably in one place, agree again ...
  6. iouris 10 January 2020 13: 20 New
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    Yes, there were times when TASS was authorized to state. And where is that TASS? And where is that Foreign Ministry?
  7. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 13: 20 New
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    “The greatness of a nation and relations between countries cannot be built on lies and falsifications of history,” the document says.
    Well, this can be seen in the photo of the 40s of the 20th century.
    1. Andrzej k 10 January 2020 18: 23 New
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      There are other interesting photos. below These are not Germans or Poles, but Russians. And they are armed, unlike the Poles (although some of the hats are strange, not Polish?) From your photo


      And here are some small examples of the "hostility" of the USSR in relation to Nazi Germany anno domini 1939

  8. eagle owl 10 January 2020 13: 26 New
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    Churchill even said about Poland? "Hyena of Europe". Dot.
    1. Andrzej k 10 January 2020 18: 14 New
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      Do you know what Churchill said about the USSR before he said: "He entered into an alliance with the devil to defeat Hitler"? Dot.
  9. knn54 10 January 2020 13: 29 New
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    Nearly 500000 Poles voluntarily went to serve the Nazis on the Eastern Front. % in relation to the population rolls over.
    1. Andrzej k 10 January 2020 18: 44 New
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      It's no secret - even in the novel Four Tankers and a Dog, Gustlik previously served as a Silesian in the Wehrmacht. Not voluntarily.
      Many Poles after the inclusion of part of Poland in the Third Reich were subject to compulsory appeal. As in the east, my grandmother’s brother incarnated in 1940 in the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army not at his own request and died in German captivity in June 1941 in the city of Mir. They had no choice. Hiwis and those from ROA or SS Galizien (Ukrainians) made this choice themselves
  10. Den717 10 January 2020 13: 31 New
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    The relationship of the Poles to the Jews is certainly an interesting topic, and I would add the attitude of the Poles to all non-Polish minorities. Indeed, the OUN was born in response to the policy of polonization of the Western Ukrainian territories. And the reasons for the refusal of the spacecraft pass to help Czechoslovakia in 1938 were not only Polish-German interests, but also the fear of mass unrest of Ukrainians and Belarusians in the eastern armchairs when the Soviet troops appeared.
    1. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 20: 04 New
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      Quote: Den717
      And the reasons for the refusal of the spacecraft pass to help Czechoslovakia in 1938 were not only Polish-German interests,

      It is necessary to pray to God that the Czechs refused our help.
      1. Den717 10 January 2020 20: 17 New
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        It should be understood that you are quite happy with the scale of the USSR’s losses in population and the volume of losses in the national economy?
  11. rocket757 10 January 2020 13: 34 New
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    As you can see, in Poland they continue to apply the historical context only as it is beneficial to Poland itself:

    In general, others do the same. For a long time already, all boundaries ... of what is permitted have been revised, or even they did not care at all.
  12. Lord of the Sith 10 January 2020 13: 37 New
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    If then Poland did not puff up with all its might, how cool they say they would be, there would be nothing like that. And they imagined themselves to be airships, they sent an adic in three letters, which he could not bear. And tore them like a tusik heating pad
  13. prior 10 January 2020 13: 49 New
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    It is just necessary to conduct a military operation to induce recognition by the Poles of historical facts and everything will immediately fall into place .....
  14. sleeve 10 January 2020 13: 50 New
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    The beads we swing, the beads. If Psheks have gone by abandoning reality, and even more so if it is in a political trend, then you should not wait for objectiveness to be included there. You need to fight back, but you should not wait for the result. But the powder must be dried. The patterns are the same. 80,120,140,160 etc. summer prescription.
  15. 1536 10 January 2020 14: 00 New
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    So why the Polish government did not give permission to parts of the Red Army to come to the aid of Czechoslovakia in 1938? This is probably the next topic of the briefing. Only he will already be at the Ministry of Defense of Russia.
    1. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 20: 15 New
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      So why the Polish government did not give permission to parts of the Red Army to come to the aid of Czechoslovakia in 1938?
      As you know, the Czech-Soviet pact stipulated that the USSR would only help Czechoslovakia if France did the same. We did not help Czechoslovakia. France and England did everything possible to prevent this from happening. The Czech Republic surrendered under the pressure of England and France. You could say they saved us from the war at that time. Scatter the situation and you will understand what could happen in 1938.
    2. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 13: 16 New
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      The example of Estonia and Latvia shows that when the RKK entered some territory, God forbid, it established its bases there, and soon after that a strange coincidence in the state followed a communist coup and inclusion in the “happy family of the peoples of the USSR”.

      Only a naive person could think that Stalin would not take advantage of the fact that the Soviet army without resistance crossed foreign territory and would return to itself.
  16. Gennady Fomkin 10 January 2020 14: 11 New
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    "Nations that have failed to defend themselves should take the guidance of those who saved them and who provide them with the prospect of true freedom and independence."

    Said - Churchill. The same one. He said about the Poles and about them just stupidity. laughing
    1. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 20: 20 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Said - Churchill. The same one. He said about the Poles and about them just stupidity.

      But he hid one thing. Who made Poland (Second Commonwealth) November 11, 1918? And what territories did they give to Poland?
      1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 13: 19 New
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        Poland conquered its territory by fighting, and not as a gift from the Entente.
        The anti-Polish attitude of Great Britain and Lloyd George (due to Poland’s alliance with France) did everything to make Poland as weak as possible. Hence the free city of Gdansk.
        1. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 13: 31 New
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          Quote: Andrzej K
          Poland conquered its territory by fighting, and not as a gift from the Entente.

          Everyone can have their own views. But what kind of war did Poland wage with Germany and how did it conquer part of it in 1919 ??? A good example is the Entente’s approach to resolving the issue of the Polish state’s access to the sea. Poland received 62 percent territories of West Prussia (Pomerania) in the form of a Polish (Danzig) corridor tapering to the sea. So at least explain it to us illiterate.
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            1. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 03 New
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              Quote: Andrzej K
              Similarly, the so-called Eastern Galicia and the eastern lands are the result of battles with Soviet Russia.

              D, here I agree, you got them as a result of the battles defeating Soviet Russia. And then Soviet Russia returned these lands back. So everything is no offense and claims to each other.
              1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 14: 11 New
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                Many times (also here, on this page) I wrote that there are no territorial disputes between our countries. Poland does not even require a small piece of territory from Russia.

                And in fact, the USSR returned these lands back - first on September 17, 1939 - with a blow to the back, violating the Non-Aggression Pact of 1932, then because of the adultery of England and the USA, which actually transferred Poland to Stalin. There should have been free elections - but free elections under the USSR were an oxymoron.
                1. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 28 New
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                  Quote: Andrzej K
                  Poland does not even require a small piece of territory from Russia.

                  And in your opinion, that Russia requires something from you? We only gave you, but did not select.
                  1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 14: 34 New
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                    I repeat. Currently, there are no territorial disputes between our countries, that is, Poland from Russia and Russia does not want anything from Poland. Therefore, I do not understand mutual hostility.

                    Regarding the provision and receipt, however, let me have a different opinion - except that this is a historical issue and should be forgotten (in the context of current relations between the two countries).
                    1. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 49 New
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                      Quote: Andrzej K
                      Regarding the provision and receipt, however, let me have a different opinion - except that this is a historical issue and should be forgotten (in the context of current relations between the two countries)

                      Our relations between Russia and Poland have no mutual claims. so let's live peacefully, which we have done before since 1945.
                      1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 14: 54 New
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                        Very happy. We all benefit from good relationships!
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                        Quote: Andrzej K
                        Very happy. We all benefit from good relationships!

                        I'm all for it !
              2. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 32 New
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                Quote: Andrzej K
                And in fact, the USSR returned these lands back - first on September 17, 1939 - with a blow to the back,

                It was necessary to think with a head when in 1920 they seized Russian lands. And it so happened, as always, "Debt by payment is beautiful." Then do not exact, they themselves asked for it.
                1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 14: 58 New
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                  You can argue for a long time about who started the war of 1919-1920, but this story was as it was. It was. Time to move on
      2. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 13: 37 New
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        Quote: Andrzej K
        The anti-Polish attitude of Great Britain and Lloyd George (due to Poland’s alliance with France) did everything to make Poland as weak as possible.

        This can only be answered with such facts.
        From February to August 1919, Poland received 260 tons of food worth $ 000 million from the United States. In 51, Poland alone received $ 1919 million worth of military property from US military depots in Europe, and $ 60 million in 1920. In July 100, the 1919th army arrived in Poland, created in France mainly from emigrants of Polish descent from France and the United States. By the spring of 70, England, France and the United States had supplied Poland with 1920 guns, 1494 machine guns, about 2800 thousand rifles, 385,5 thousand revolvers, about 42 aircraft, 700 armored vehicles, 200 trucks, 800 million rounds, 576 million rounds, 10 carts, 4,5 million sets of uniforms, 3 million pairs of shoes, communications equipment and medicines.
        This is how the Entente (and Lloyd George) weakened the Second Commonwealth.
        1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 13: 59 New
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          Probably all that you wrote is true - I would have to check the sources, but how much this contradicts this proposal
          The anti-Polish attitude of Great Britain and Lloyd George (due to Poland’s alliance with France) did everything to make Poland as weak as possible.



          reiteration
          Anti-Polish attitude UK and Lloyd George


          The shipments you write about came from the USA and France. Not from england
          1. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 33 New
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            Quote: Andrzej K
            Probably everything you wrote is true - I would have to check the sources

            Surely, today everyone is "crazy".
  • Gennady Fomkin 10 January 2020 14: 13 New
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    That the Poles can make any laws. They may even say that Russia does not exist, but they just can’t change the reality, as well as the story. Unfortunately for Polish Russophobes, there are Soviet archives that contain a detailed account of the behavior of a country / politician during World War II. And Poland, so to speak, appears in them in an unpleasant light. laughing
  • Andrzej k 10 January 2020 14: 28 New
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    Unfortunately, my authorities (Polish) are showing more and more stupidity :-(

    However, Poland emphasizes the fact that definitely not all deputies of the Sejm of the Republic of Poland adopted this resolution with applause. Good and that!


    Historians, not politicians, must deal with such issues.
    1. IGOR GORDEEV 10 January 2020 15: 11 New
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      Unfortunately, my authorities (Polish) are showing more and more stupidity :-(

      Nice to hear the reasonable arguments of a citizen of Poland.
    2. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 37 New
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      Historians, not politicians, must deal with such issues.

      But while politicians rule the ball, and not the people and historians, we need to find a reasonable grain, if not to be friends, but at least coexist peacefully. I’m not a Poleophophobia, for a third I have Polish blood, but my twins are of Russian blood, they say that I'm right.
      1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 14: 47 New
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        we need to find a reasonable grain, if not to be friends, but at least coexist peacefully


        I can sign with both hands. Full agreement.

        My grandfather and grandmother come from the territory of modern Belarus, my great-grandfather served in the Russian army - his “royal driver’s license” is proudly stored in the family archive - he graduated from the school of tractor drivers in Tomsk in 1916.

        I like Russia and Russians, like many other Poles. black and white picture. Russophobes themselves live in Poland is not true. Yes, there are many, but this is mainly the result of poor public policy.
        1. tihonmarine 11 January 2020 14: 51 New
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          Russophobes themselves live in Poland is not true. Yes, there are many, but this is mainly the result of poor public policy.

          And who would doubt it!
  • classik46 10 January 2020 15: 05 New
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    It’s not worth it to be critical and petty. It’s just the ordinary Poles who do not communicate with them, they say that the war began with the refusal of cooperation between France, London and the Poles with advice on Germany (ending the policy of pacification of the Nazis) and the invasion of Czechoslovakia . And oddly enough PiS they all do not like, they have never met supporters of the ruling party. Yes, and a lot of skeptics in the American side. The Americans are another thing, it's hard to argue with them, lived to the bone with their own propaganda.
    1. Andrzej k 11 January 2020 14: 50 New
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      You are right.
      Personally, I have not met a man who would hate Russians during negotiations. Yes, many are afraid of Russia, but they are elderly people, stunned by state propaganda
  • Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 15: 32 New
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    Putin hooked Poland, all can’t calm down ..
    Well, Zakharova, this is a talking head .. Could someone smarter to find someone.
  • Tomich3 10 January 2020 17: 53 New
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    For some reason, this “victim” forgets about the Hitler-Pilsudski Pact (secret protocol to the German-Polish declaration of January 26, 1934). An agent report from a source close to Polish diplomatic circles, handed over to the Soviet leadership in the middle of 1935 by the NGO GUGB NKVD, said: “to the well-known and officially published ten-year non-aggression pact between Poland and Germany, concluded on January 26, 1934 year, there is a secret addendum, signed on the same January 26, 1934. By virtue of this addendum, in exchange for Germany’s sacred obligation not to oppose Poland in any way, either independently or in a coalition with other states, Poland has committed itself to to Germany, which has the following edition (the text of this secret addendum is written in German and Polish):
    “In the event of a direct or mediocre attack on Germany, Poland maintains strict neutrality even if Germany, due to provocation, had to initiate a war on her own initiative to defend her honor and security.”
    Shortly before the signing of the Soviet-French agreement on mutual assistance, on April 18, 1935, the French newspaper Bourbonnais republicain publishes directly the text of the secret annex to the German-Polish pact, which was placed at its disposal by the deputy of the parliament, former minister in the governments of Shotan, Lucien Lyamure (he was minister of colonies in February-March 1930 and the Minister of Labor and Social Security from November 1933 to January 1934).
    On April 20, 1935, two central Soviet publications, Pravda and Izvestia, reprinted from this newspaper the text of the secret agreement to the German-Polish non-aggression pact of January 26, 1934:
    “1. High contracting parties undertake to agree on all matters that may entail international obligations for both parties and to pursue a permanent policy of effective cooperation.
    2. Poland in its external relations undertakes not to take any decisions without coordination with the German government, and also to observe the interests of this government in all circumstances.
    3. In the event of international events threatening the status quo, the high contracting parties undertake to communicate with each other in order to agree on measures that they find useful to take.
    4. High contracting parties pledge to unite their military, economic and financial forces to repel any unprovoked attack and provide support in the event that one of the parties is attacked.
    5. The Polish government is committed to ensuring the free passage of German troops on its territory in the event that these troops are called upon to repel a provocation from the east or from the northeast.
    6. The German government undertakes to guarantee by all means at its disposal that the Polish borders are inviolable against all aggression.
    7. High contracting parties undertake to take all measures of an economic nature that can represent common and private interests and that can enhance the effectiveness of their common defensive means.
    8. This agreement shall remain in force for two years, counting from the day of the exchange of ratification documents. It will be considered renewed for the same period if neither of the two governments denounces it with a warning 6 months before the expiration of this period. As a result, each government will have the right to denounce it through a statement preceding the expiration of a full period of two years in 6 months. ”
    For the Soviet era, especially since that time, even an ordinary publication in such publications as Pravda and Izvestia, not to mention the printing of the document on the first page, is like setting forth the official position of the state.
    But there was no reaction. No protests from the German and Polish embassies, no notes from the Foreign Ministries of Poland and Germany. And such silence was, as they say, very eloquent - in favor of the existence of a secret agreement.
  • Kronos 10 January 2020 17: 59 New
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    You can resent the Poles, but when the leaders of Russia themselves constantly tell how bad the USSR was, then why should other countries think differently?
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    1. Gardamir 10 January 2020 20: 12 New
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      In vain, you hope that there will be some links.
      Firstly, I am at home and provided a link. Secondly, the VO website will also be the same as it was with the Union, too many personally devotees have appeared. Devotees usually betray.
      I am for Great Russia! And you are obviously happy. that Russia is "doomed to liberalism" /
  • Mentat 10 January 2020 23: 17 New
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    In vain, you hope that there will be some links.
    Firstly, I am at home and provided a link. Secondly, the VO website will also be the same as it was with the Union, too many personally devotees have appeared. Devotees usually betray.
    I am for Great Russia! And you are obviously happy. that Russia is "doomed to liberalism" /

    I would be glad if you and your kind were by the ear and light of God. I’m not ashamed to go outside and participate in public discussions. I doubt very much that you can do the same.
  • Mentat 11 January 2020 00: 34 New
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    Quote: Gardamir
    In vain, you hope that there will be some links.
    Firstly, I am at home and provided a link. Secondly, the VO website will also be the same as it was with the Union, too many personally devotees have appeared. Devotees usually betray.
    I am for Great Russia! And you are obviously happy. that Russia is "doomed to liberalism" /

    What did you bring there? Links to idle ranting and fantasy?

    In the original, you gave yourself the trouble to look and find the original message and its context? But it’s not difficult for me to do this. It becomes clear why this context is removed from the pictures in idle fantasies.

    Here are the pictures:


    So what did a certain Roman blurt out there? Here is what Zakharova specifically answered:



    It turns out that this is not just about Stalin, but about specific methods that are naturally unacceptable today, and their assessment from a moral point of view.

    This is how all the construction of bots and “subcontract actions” collapse.
    1. pafegosoff 11 January 2020 06: 56 New
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      As for the leaders who are destroying their people ... Is this Zakharova spoke about koggo? About Churchill, Kolchak, Nicholas II, the English monarchs, Mao, Roosevelt or Yeltsin with the Chubais? With each of them no less people perished than during the Great and Terrible ...
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        With each of them no less people perished than during the Great and Terrible ...

        Peter the Great according to the logic of these - it turns out generally a bloody maniac who drank the blood of infants in the morning
  • pafegosoff 11 January 2020 06: 50 New
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    Recall the massacre of unarmed Russian soldiers in the church during the sacrament.
    Poles gladly slaughtered or starved Ukrainians, Russians, Jews, Germans, if there was no threat of an immediate response. Then they cry and say that everyone offends them ...
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    Ham 11 January 2020 10: 50 New
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    it’s such a “freedom of speech" - to adopt a law according to which ITS interpretation is the only correct one ... oh yes - and also criminal liability for those who do not agree with this interpretation)))
    "FREEDOM OF SPEECH", "FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE" in Eurogean ...
    what are we supposed to talk about with chukhans?
  • Shaman 11 January 2020 20: 13 New
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    The loudest screams, "hold the thief," the thief himself.
  • Jarserge 12 January 2020 12: 24 New
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    So they are Catholics, one of the most frostbitten in the world. Why be surprised? How are the "Pharisees and Philistines"