The focus of the liberal press: how Echo and Rain cover the US-Iran conflict


On Dozhd TV channel, they strive to adhere to an objective presentation of material regarding the military-political confrontation between the US and Iran related to the assassination of General Kassem Suleimani, and cite a lot of expert opinions.


For example, in material Trump's violation of all unwritten rules clearly indicates that the experts agreed: Iran responded to the murder of a senior military officer in the form of "controlled aggression", that is, in a mild form. This kind of answer is considered by experts as a definite signal to Washington. The message is this: Iran does not intend to unleash a military conflict.

The White House is behaving similarly: D. Trump only made a promise to impose new sanctions against Iran.

В adjacent material famous quotes from D. Trump’s Twitter are quoted: “Everything is fine! .. Everything is going fine!”

It also refers to the downed Ukrainian Boeing on the morning of January XNUMX, during the crash of which people were killed. Al-Hadath is reported to have been reported: this publication informed that the liner might have been accidentally shot down by a rocket. It is immediately said that the Iranian authorities categorically deny this.

В following material, which also contains the expert’s opinion, repeats a message referring to the Washington Post that some senior US officials indicated: Tehran launched a missile strike so that there were no casualties among the US military. In addition, Iranian authorities have warned of an impending Iraq attack, and the Iraqis have already transmitted information to the United States.

«Medusa» I collected a number of interviews representing the answers to the questions of local residents.

A resident of Tehran believes that Russians often do not understand what is happening in the Middle East. But this is understandable to the Iranians. A resident explained that the Middle East crisis has dragged on for more than one hundred years. And never ends. Why so? The answer is: the US authorities, like the Iranian authorities, are interested in maintaining the crisis.

Tehran needs a crisis in order to maintain a regime of power, the totalitarianism of which is growing every time.

US interested in crisis to continue trade weapons with the Saudis and their other allies.

But there will be no full-scale war, because no one wants it.

В another article D. Trump’s decision regarding the “whole world” is highlighted. Quote from Trump's speech:

"Iran seems to have decided to retreat, and this is good for the whole world."

The materials on Echo of Moscow look somewhat different. Today, January 10, the point of view of foreign politicians on the catastrophe of the Ukrainian liner is actively highlighted here.

In the material entitled "The version of the death of the Ukrainian liner from an Iranian missile received significant support", Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in a statement citing intelligence that the passenger Boeing was inadvertently shot down by an Iranian missile.

The British Prime Minister Mr. Johnson made a similar statement.


Finally, Donald Trump previously made it clear that he does not believe in a version built on the technical malfunction of the liner.

Trudeau's statement, mentioned above, is also considered in another article January 10th. Also here are some assumptions collected from different sources and essentially the same.

It is reported that presumably we are talking about a missile that could have been released from the Tor air defense system. This is exactly what Pentagon sources Newsweek and sources from American and Iraqi intelligence say. A similar version, notes "Echo", adhere to the interlocutors of CBS News. According to them, the satellite revealed two flashes from missile launches. As expected, these were launches from the Thor.
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  1. Black_Vatnik 10 January 2020 11: 02 New
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    Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. Gazprom, as you know, is a national treasure. Conclusion: "Echo of Moscow" - a national treasure)
    1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 11: 05 New
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      you don’t have logic)))) if a maniac is sitting in Gazprom, is that also a property?
      1. Ravil_Asnafovich 10 January 2020 11: 30 New
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        Are you in doubt Gazprom, led by a miller, is maniacs in relation to residents of the Russian Federation.
        1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 11: 32 New
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          about miller completely agree
          1. Den717 10 January 2020 12: 08 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            about miller completely agree

            In what mania do you suspect this gentleman? Drinking babies blood in the morning? Ali is he a serial killer?
            1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 12: 23 New
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              he has a manic greed for money !!!!
              1. Den717 10 January 2020 12: 37 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                he has a manic greed for money !!!!

                Do you have such greed? Obviously you are eating the holy spirit? Or is it envious that there is no growth in the union line? I think that if you had the opportunity to become the chairman of the board of GP and RN, you are unlikely to start work by reducing your salary. In any case, observing the newly appointed chiefs, I have not seen such a practice. But you, obviously, do not offer such a position. Why? May pay more attention to this? Grow above yourself, etc.?
                1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 12: 40 New
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                  I have no greed for money, and most also
                  1. Den717 10 January 2020 13: 06 New
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                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    I have no greed for money, and most also

                    Come on?!!! And about the majority you got excited ... laughing I’ll say to myself that I studied and grew up in jobs not for the “smell of taiga”, but to make my life more comfortable, to learn children, and therefore I was always interested in the growth of sn. And do not imagine yourself holier than the Pope, this is stupid ... at least.
                    1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 13: 30 New
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                      desire for more money and greed for money is heaven and earth !!! completely different concepts
                      1. Den717 10 January 2020 13: 42 New
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                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        desire for more money and greed for money is heaven and earth

                        What are you? Let's do it without philosophy. Human nature, unlike animals, is insatiable. The line between desire and thirst is ephemeral and each has its own, if it exists .... Moreover, the term “thirst” is used allegorically in the context under discussion. After all, normal (not sick) people do not have a physiological attraction to money, because money is just a tool to achieve goals. Therefore, in relation to money, desire and thirst are practically synonyms ... with some tint of differences in subjective relations.
                      2. Nikitich 10 January 2020 15: 14 New
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                        I would agree with you until the year before last, when I went to Yanukovych in the inter-mountains .....
                        If at once there was an impression of '' not bad '' (I would have lived like that myself), then at the end of the walk I came to the conclusion that there was a comrade on my head (kleptomania most likely). And this is in impoverished Ukraine and after expropriation laughing
                        And imagine what are the estates of our kleptocrats ?.
                        Therefore, they build a fence higher between themselves and us!
    2. Black_Vatnik 10 January 2020 11: 43 New
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      Here the question is not in logic, but in the presence of a sense of humor and irony, I wish you to acquire them)
    3. opus 10 January 2020 14: 39 New
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      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      if a maniac is sitting in Gazprom, is that also a property?

      And who is sitting / sitting there now?

      Here is a little joke:
      By 2016, Miller promised that the cost of Gazprom will be $ 1 trillion. Yes, he was wrong. Like his entire analytics department

      Threat. now in my opinion it’s either 47 or $ 52 billion
      and this is ours punishment (ruin) national heritage
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Maniac (Greek μανιακός, maniakos) - man, obsessed with mania.
      money, let's say
      1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 15: 05 New
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        do not worry about the cost))) this is capitalization and not real value
        1. opus 10 January 2020 15: 57 New
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          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          do not worry about the cost))) this is capitalization and not real value

          1. What am I? I’m not a shareholder, but from the "property" I get only the increase in gas prices, not frail.
          I started 10-12 years ago with 1 p 80kop, now under 7 rubles!
          But Sakhipzadovna convinces me that our inflation is scanty.
          2. "not real value" Come on?
          Ma'am please be so kind as to bring
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          real value
          1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 16: 16 New
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            7 rubles is just awful ???
            about the cost and capitalization here a lecture should be done for 2 hours))) on the Internet is full of programs about the drop in Gazprom capitalization
            1. opus 10 January 2020 16: 23 New
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              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              7 rubles is just awful ???

              Yes, do you think no?
              "almost 7 rubles"

              archives deeper than 2012 and not find

              and this, of course, is "not expensive."
              It will be expensive when we (consumers) pay $ 3 for Ukraine, to Miller and his group

              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              here a lecture should be done for 2 hours)))

              Yes, you are on your fingers, on your knee, but you think about it, and I, as a worker with "30 years of experience," understand how.
              Let's try
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              the Internet is full of programs

              "why do we need a blacksmith"?
              I want from you ... to hear, of course
              1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 16: 37 New
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                Then if I don’t forget
              2. Sergey1987 11 January 2020 15: 09 New
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                Quote: opus
                It will be expensive when we (consumers) pay $ 3 for Ukraine,

                laughing Yeah, of course, consumers. If the entire population of Russia, including infants, pays as consumers, laughing will pay $ 20 this month, then of course they’ll collect directly from us. I’ll tell you more, I’m unlikely to take this money from the budget. Most likely, Gazprom itself will pay.
                1. opus 11 January 2020 18: 45 New
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                  Yeah, of course, consumers. If the entire population of Russia including infants will pay, as consumers

                  1. 3 000 000 000 $: 144 000 000 inhabitants * 61 rubles = 1271 p
                  12 months = 106 rubles.
                  the population of Russia will not even notice this, including infants.
                  Yes, you can not immediately: stretch for 2-3 years by increasing gas tariffs
                  2. VAT of 20% brought about 660 billion rubles per year ...
                  perfecto
                  August 2019 Tax benefits for Rosneft and Gazprom Neft in the amount of 600 billion rubles were approved by Vladimir Putin. The benefits relate to the project for the development of the Priobskoye birth.
                  hurt yourself.
                  the population paid twice: the first time an increase in the cost of goods / services, the second time less taxes for subsoil owned by the population.
                  And they will be thrown for the third time: with profit and taxes
                  Quote: Sergey1987
                  I’ll tell you more, I’m unlikely to take this money from the budget. Most likely, Gazprom itself will pay.

                  you can speak more or less.
                  Gazprom is practically bankrupt. He has nowhere to get $
                  10.2019 According to the results of the first half of the year, gas supplies to the European Union fell by 8,9%, and since August, the collapse has become double-digit - in the first six days of the month it reached 22%.
                  A mysterious client came to the rescue of Gazprom, purchased about a billion cubic meters: the company included this gas in its statistics, although none of the pipeline operators recorded deliveries.

                  Gazprombank became the buyer of Gazprom’s gas, industry sources told the agency.
                  The bank, which the company directly owns by 35%, and another 47% through the Gazfond pension fund, the export schedule, which is bursting at the seams in all markets, is saving: in the first six months, after European deliveries, sales to the countries of the former USSR fell by 7,2%.
                  This year, 11,7 billion cubic meters were consumed in underground gas storage facilities, twice as much as a year ago.
                  Selling gas to yourself for the sake of fulfilling the plan launched from above becomes the norm for Gazprom. In the same way, the company acted at the end of last year to report on the achievement of record exports and breaking the bar of 200 billion cubic meters per year.

                  For 2019, Miller forecasted exports to be “no less than” 200 billion cubic meters, but only Hungary, Austria and the Czech Republic significantly increased purchases from large customers. A landslide reduction in deliveries was recorded in Turkey, which abandoned a third of the volume of Russian gas after the Southern Gas Corridor from Azerbaijan started operating. Over 6 months, 8,1 billion cubic meters were sold to Turkey, compared to 12,7 billion a year ago.

                  The average gas selling price was 13% lower than Gazprom had budgeted ($ 207 instead of $ 230-250), and the company completed the second quarter with a cash gap of 55 billion rubles.
                  By the end of the year, a hole in Gazprom’s budget could grow to $ 7 billion, Sberbank CIB analysts predicted in August. The company needs 1,326 trillion rubles for the construction of numerous gas pipelines, another 246,9 billion rubles should be directed to dividends. Operating cash flow will not be able to cover the required amount neither this year, nor in 2020-21, when the investment program will be 1,065 and 1,251 trillion rubles, respectively, according to Sberbank CIB.
                  To cover the budget deficit Gazprom will be a shock attraction of debt: the company's loan plan for the current year has been increased by 2,4 times - up to 725 billion rubles.
                  see more and more often “Evening with Vovka Solovyov” - in general everything will be in pink
                  Quote: Sergey1987
                  Yeah of course,
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      2. Sergey1987 11 January 2020 15: 04 New
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        Quote: opus
        Threat. now in my opinion it’s either 47 or $ 52 billion
        and this is our punishment (ruin) "heritage" national

        You do not confuse capitalization and real value. If that Gazprom’s assets are pulled by 227 billion. And for your information. Maybe 1 trillion. capitalization would have reached in 2016, but you probably didn’t notice the crisis of 2008 and 2014, and for one you probably didn’t notice the drop in oil prices. Well, of course, Miller is to blame for this.
  2. Timon2155 10 January 2020 11: 06 New
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    Type, controlled by our elite liberal media. So that "the steam from the engine went to the whistle"))))
    1. Nastia makarova 10 January 2020 11: 33 New
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      exactly!!! Bravo
  3. GRIGORIY76 10 January 2020 11: 11 New
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    Gazprom owns the echo but does not invest money in it. Radio lives on its income.
    1. prior 10 January 2020 11: 46 New
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      "Radio lives on its income."

      What are the revenues from Echo? From them only waste products!
    2. Mordvin 3 10 January 2020 12: 14 New
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      Quote: GRIGORIY76
      Gazprom owns the echo but does not invest money in it.

      And then the president lied, so ... crying
      1. Mestny 10 January 2020 14: 32 New
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        What will you do ...
        Well then, welcome to Trump, or Zelensky.
        They don’t lie.
        1. Mordvin 3 10 January 2020 14: 37 New
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          Thank you, I’ll survive his enemies, and you are looking for a cunning plan.
  4. Lopatov 10 January 2020 11: 15 New
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    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Echo of Moscow - a project funded by Gazprom

    Not quite.
    Echo is an asset of Gazprom Media, and those belong to Gazprombank. Which is only a quarter owned by Gazprom.
    1. andr327 10 January 2020 17: 18 New
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      This modern bureaucratic management organization is like mine and at the same time not mine. No one is responsible for anything. The cleaner is to blame for everything - she took out the wrong rubbish bin ..
  5. Krasnoyarsk 10 January 2020 11: 27 New
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    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. Gazprom, as you know, is a national treasure. Conclusion: "Echo of Moscow" - a national treasure)

    Gazprom cannot be a national treasure because Gazprom is not a state. company. This is a joint stock company.
  6. eagle owl 10 January 2020 11: 31 New
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    If Yehu Matza weren’t there, the Kremlin should have come up with it. You understand. that not a single statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Presidential Administration and the General Staff of the Armed Forces will prove so clearly all the stupidity of the position of the liberotas as they are? And here - almost free of charge - time after time a whole horde of clowns crawls out and persistently demonstrate the failure of their tales.
    Exactly the same with Navalny - it is necessary to sponsor it, so as not to lose popularity! And then its owners, God forbid, find another slave. smart. Although where among them smart to come from ...
    1. bessmertniy 10 January 2020 12: 06 New
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      Echo is an echo! It sounded somewhere, but it transmits, gradually distorting and losing its strength. repeat
  7. KCA
    KCA 10 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    Well, that is, you are for the introduction of strict censorship, all sorts of echoes and rains can not be publications that bring profit to the owner? Personally, not always, but I never agree with the publications of the Echo, but I won’t drive Gazprom, well, somehow
    1. Black_Vatnik 10 January 2020 12: 57 New
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      If by censorship you mean the non-acceptance of any polls “did you have to pass Leningrad?”, “Stalinism and Nazism are the same thing?”, Also, if by censorship you mean the prohibitions of all kinds of humorous shows, which joke about General Karbyshev and the prohibitions of films , like Bondarchuk's Stalingrad, then yes, I am for the introduction of censorship.
      Any public creature who after the tragedy in Winter Cherry, on their Twitter and YouTube channels organized a provocative mess, in order to increase the excitement of his beloved and promote his channel, should feel responsible for every statement he makes.
  8. Jarserge 10 January 2020 12: 33 New
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    Honestly, in connection with your statement, Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. the question arises. Where does the information come from? Is she authentic? And Gazprom is a state in a state. There is a tangle of property, owners including foreign and, accordingly, financial flows. So the words of the word and where is the truth and even more so the truth?
  9. Grandfather-Shchukar 10 January 2020 15: 37 New
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    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. Gazprom, as you know, is a national treasure. Conclusion: "Echo of Moscow" - a national treasure)

    Well, we’d better control them than some CNN and other cunning non-profit organizations ..
    Let them chat under control ..
  10. Lone gunman 10 January 2020 16: 36 New
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    Gazprom ?! And are all Russians on the board of directors? ... or were there or are senator citizens among them, say USA ...)) ... is that really bad ?!
  11. Maz
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    What I like, as if the headlines were written off from the Israeli press, or they wrote them together
  12. NEXUS 10 January 2020 21: 47 New
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    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. Gazprom, as you know, is a national treasure. Conclusion: "Echo of Moscow" - a national treasure)

    It’s not enough funny ... the census of history has always gone on, and it is still going on today, thanks to the Millers, Echo of Moscow, propaganda, selfish interests of the helmsmen, etc. ... now, even certified historians do not know history from the word ABSOLUTELY. A simple example ...
    Has anyone heard of the chain bridge near Kiev?

    The date of its construction is the Nikolaev Chain Bridge - the first permanent bridge across the Dnieper in Kiev. Existed with 1853 through 1920 opposite the Askold grave.
    And now we look when the method of producing steel on an industrial scale was only invented-
    The first method of mass production of liquid steel was the Bessemer process. This method of steel production in a converter with an acid lining was developed by the Englishman G. Bessemer in 1856-1860

    The first open-hearth furnace in Russia was built in the Kaluga province at the Ivano-Sergievsky ironworks by S. I. Maltsev in 1866-1867 In 1870 the first melts were carried out in a furnace with a capacity of 2,5 tons, built by well-known metallurgists A. A. Iznoskov and N. N. Kuznetsov at the Sormovsky plant.

    For those who say that the Russian blacksmiths forged these chains there, I’ll say, take a look at the size of this building and figure out how much it was necessary to bale with hammers there ...- Length 776 meters, width 16 meters.
    But Wikipedia says that -
    UK XNUMX-span steel bridge chain

    Seriously? How was all this transported, poured, collected?
    About the same "story" and the famous Bronze Horseman in St. Petersburg.
    And what am I saying this ... after 100 years, the data on Wikipedia, written by a drunken ignoramus, will be presented as truth, and the statements of Echo of Moscow as historical truth.
  13. Sergey1987 11 January 2020 15: 01 New
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    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. Gazprom, as you know, is a national treasure. Conclusion: "Echo of Moscow" - a national treasure)

    That is, you propose that the state represented by Gazprom close the echo? Well, let's start censorship.))) Only right after that censorship will cover critics like you.
  • Flooding 10 January 2020 11: 07 New
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    The White House is behaving similarly: D. Trump only made a promise to impose new sanctions against Iran.

    I also remembered about 52 targets for American missiles.
  • Anatole Klim 10 January 2020 11: 07 New
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    I didn’t expect that the VO website now has a review of liberal media, so let’s get down to the yellow press review, but VO always showed its point of view, so where to go further ...? stop
    1. taiga2018 10 January 2020 11: 46 New
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      Quote: Anatole Klim
      now a review of liberal media

      So how many things can turn around, just in case, and flirt with these ...
    2. Stirbjorn 10 January 2020 11: 47 New
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      Quote: Anatole Klim
      I didn’t expect that the VO website now has a review of liberal media, so let’s get down to the yellow press review, but VO always showed its point of view, so where to go further ...? stop

      Yesterday there was a review of the Ukrainian Censor, so liberal media are not so sad
  • bober1982 10 January 2020 11: 09 New
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    The next expert will apparently be voiced by a citizen of Navalny; this categorically stated that the Iranians had shot down.
    He’s lying, a son of a bitch.
  • Vladimir_2U 10 January 2020 11: 11 New
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    A resident of Tehran believes that Russians often do not understand what is happening in the Middle East. But this is understandable to the Iranians. A resident explained that the Middle East crisis stretches already not one hundred years. And never ends. Why so? The answer is: the US authorities, like the Iranian authorities, are interested in maintaining the crisis.
    Wow, pride in ASASHAY! They turn out to be crap for hundreds of years! Already everything is in star-striped coprolites!
  • Operator 10 January 2020 11: 12 New
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    Damn, what does the media report about the alleged downing of a Ukrainian plane by an Iranian missile - the Prime Ministers of Britain and Canada have already officially announced this.
  • Mityay65 10 January 2020 11: 15 New
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    The very topic of the review of liberal media on the topic speaks of the deep secondary nature and wretchedness of our homegrown agitprop. Instead of independently collecting and analyzing facts, considering options, inviting experts, we simply take a look at Echo and Rain sad
    Let’s pretend we’ve done it.
    The state of journalism in Putin's Russia is sad ...
    1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 11: 23 New
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      Quote: Mityai65
      The state of journalism in Putin's Russia is sad ...

      Do you still think that the stuffing, called upon to appoint the guilty even before the start of the investigation, is the “unfortunate state of journalism”?
      1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 11: 32 New
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        Quote: Spade
        You still think

        I think what I wrote above.
        Quote: Spade
        to appoint the perpetrators before the investigation-

        They do their job and do it competently. They want and appoint the guilty, they attach photos, videos, and even analytics. Belingket works, the media work, agitprop works. And our answer is at the level of "the fool himself."
        1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 11: 53 New
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          Quote: Mityai65
          They do their job and do it competently.

          Properly built the Empire of Lies?
          Competently suppress dissent?

          Quote: Mityai65
          Belingket works, the media work, agitprop works.

          And even the fooled citizens themselves have less and less faith in this nonsense.
          That is why they are forced to struggle with alternative opinions.
          How's Lincoln? "You can cheat a few for a long time, you can cheat a few for a short time, but you cannot endlessly cheat everyone."

          Indeed, in fact, this is a lie about the situation around Iran and about the “downed” plane, this is another big nail in the coffin of confidence.
          1. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 12: 47 New
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            Quote: Spade
            Properly built the Empire of Lies?

            This is what she was conceived, and this appeared in 1776.
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        2. x.andvlad 10 January 2020 12: 06 New
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          Quote: Mityai65
          Belingket works, the media work, agitprop works.

          What are you talking about ?!
          Belingket authority for you?
          On July 15, 2014, Higgins launched a website called Bellingcat. (Two days before the downed Boeing ... Interesting, right?)

          The site’s goal is to combine the efforts of citizen journalists in investigating current events using open sources, such as video and photo materials, satellite images, and more. Funding for the site comes from a public campaign on Kickstarter.

          Among other projects, Bellingcat investigated the crash of a Boeing 777 in the Donetsk region. Based on their investigation, Bellingcat activists concluded that the anti-aircraft missile that shot down the aircraft was fired from the installation of the Buk-M air defense system from the 53rd air defense brigade of the Russian Federation, based in Kursk. The work attracted the attention of Dutch investigators investigating the disaster.
          https://newsland.com/community/4109/content/chto-takoe-bellingcat/6352573

          If you call it competent work, then this is obviously a competent job of fraud, put on a grand scale.
          This is the so-called. competent work so-called The media is based on rumors and wattle of social networks and special provocations to create the desired effect within the paid order.
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            Quote: x.andvlad
            If you call it competent work, then this is obviously a competent job of fraud, put on a grand scale.

            We do not know this. We can only speculate. For many years, Bellingcat has been acting as the primary source of information on a number of sensitive issues. Provides a number of evidence and leaks, including fake ones.
            Bellingcat is a model of competent professional propaganda, but hostile, but nevertheless rocky. Bellingcat’s analytics are published by the world's largest media. For example, I read an article with links to Bellingcat in India, as it seems in Times of India.
            And what next do you offer now? Shouting "Are you lying?" And reprint "liberal media reviews"?
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              Yes, fraud in the West has been put on a grand scale and has long surpassed even the Soviet propaganda.
            2. x.andvlad 10 January 2020 15: 57 New
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              Quote: Mityai65
              Bellingcat for many years in a row

              How much? 5 years old? Yeah, this is a respectable term ... Don’t tell!
              And they quote it due to the fact that there are probably "urgent recommendations" to do this right up to a generous payment, depending on the importance of the moment.
              1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 16: 24 New
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                Quote: x.andvlad
                And they quote it due to the fact that there are probably "urgent recommendations" to do this right up to a generous payment, depending on the importance of the moment.

                This is naive.
                I'm afraid you have no idea how this system works.
                1. x.andvlad 11 January 2020 16: 01 New
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                  I have no doubt that this is precisely the "system". But it is not a media system, but a system of mass disinformation. And it’s naive to believe in its objectivity.
    2. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 January 2020 11: 38 New
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      Quote: Mityai65
      The very topic of the review of liberal media on the topic speaks of the deep secondary nature and wretchedness of our homegrown agitprop.
      Anything better than YouTube comment reviews, God forgive me.
      1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 11: 44 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        Anything better than YouTube comment reviews,

        There is also a genre review of the opinions of bloggers and "network comments." This is generally the bottom ...
        1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 11: 55 New
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          Quote: Mityai65
          There is also a genre review of the opinions of bloggers and "network comments." This is generally the bottom ...

          Actually, this is a specialization of the very “Bellingket” that you praised ....
          Or "is it completely different" (c)?
          laughing laughing laughing
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            Quote: Spade
            specialization of that very Belingket,

            I have no rise. You know better.
            Quote: Spade
            Or "is it completely different" (c)?

            What else? What do you have in mind? What is the quote? Are you able to talk at all? To school!
            1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 12: 36 New
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              Quote: Mityai65
              What else?

              I'm talking about the double standards that you study at your school.


              Quote: Mityai65
              I have no rise. You know better.

              Uh ... that is, "did not read, but approve of"?
              Do you even know that the entire version about the alleged use of a rocket is built precisely on the "network comment"?

              Just lovely.
              You are an interesting character ....
              1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 12: 55 New
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                Quote: Spade
                Just lovely.
                You are an interesting character ....

                Why are you constantly trying to be rude?
                I answered below - you are not interesting to me. Please keep up.
      2. tihonmarine 10 January 2020 12: 53 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        Anything better than YouTube comment reviews, God forgive me.

        Both that and another, slurry, and "rain, slush, swamp, echo", the same slurry, smelling bad, and God forbid to fall into it.
  • Thrifty 10 January 2020 11: 15 New
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    Now, when these pseudo-media are closed, then the air over Russia will become 146 percent cleaner !!!! sad
    1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 11: 20 New
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      when these pseudo-media close,

      Are you aware that this cannot be done? Neither now nor later? Freedom of the media is enshrined in the constitution. And in the era of the Internet, closing is just plain stupid.
      1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 11: 24 New
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        Quote: Mityai65
        Are you aware that this cannot be done? Neither now nor later? Freedom of the media is enshrined in the constitution.

        The most democratic country in the world can restrict freedom of speech, why Russia can not do it?
        1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 11: 39 New
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          Quote: Spade
          Why can’t Russia do this?

          This is a difficult question. They study it in high school. If you missed, then that's it. I advise you to just take it for granted.
          1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 11: 57 New
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            Quote: Mityai65
            This is a difficult question. They study it in high school. If you missed, then that's it. I advise you to just take it for granted.

            This is where such a high school is located, in which they learn to use lies and use double standards?
            Did you finish it?
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              use lies and use double standards?

              You should carefully read what is written.
              1. Lopatov 10 January 2020 12: 38 New
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                You should carefully read what is written.

                I read.
                There is my question on the topic.
                There is your inability to answer it
                There is a substance you have collected in your mouth and an attempt to spit it in my direction, because in the absence of arguments you had an urgent desire to transfer the conversation to the discussion area of ​​my personality

                See, I read very carefully.
                So you can answer my question, or insist on discussing the shortcomings of my education at school?
                1. Mityay65 10 January 2020 12: 52 New
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                  I read.

                  Perfectly. I'm all for it. Your personality does not interest me in any way.
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                  you have an urgent desire to transfer the conversation to the area of ​​discussion of my personality

                  I have no desire at all to have a conversation with you. This is pretty noticeable, in my opinion.
      2. Thrifty 10 January 2020 11: 29 New
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        Mitya65 is not freedom of speech, but freedom of deceitful words, and outright slander! !! If it were not for the sad fact that the sponsor is gazmyasprom, it would not be difficult to close these pseudo-media, and there is a lot for that! For good, there are so many lies that these bastards from rain and echo can be hidden for 15 years in places not so remote! !!
        1. balunn 10 January 2020 11: 58 New
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          Evening with Kissel cut the truth? Something I can’t hear that these would be banned.
          PySY Neither Rain nor Echo do not listen and do not watch and do not read, as in other channels 1, Russia, NTV, etc.
          1. Simargl 10 January 2020 12: 18 New
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            Quote: balunn
            PySY Neither Rain nor Echo do not listen and do not watch and do not read, as in other channels 1, Russia, NTV, etc.
            But in vain! The enemy needs to be studied. Rain rubs the liberd softer, by the way.
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        Quote: Mityai65

        Are you aware that this cannot be done? Neither now nor later? Freedom of the media is enshrined in the constitution. And in the era of the Internet, closing is just plain stupid.

        Tell this to the "civilized" countries where they plug RT and Sputnik.
    2. AU Ivanov. 10 January 2020 11: 26 New
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      Like shit, don’t shut it, it will still stink.
    3. kjhg 10 January 2020 12: 20 New
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      Now, when these pseudo-media are closed, then the air over Russia will become 146 percent cleaner !!!!

      Of course, as soon as everyone is dissatisfied with their mouths shut, salaries will rise immediately, new enterprises will open in the regions, they will return to their previous retirement age, officials will stop stealing, judges and prosecutors will stop taking bribes, and the demographic situation will go up sharply. It is necessary to create a petition with an appeal to the president to close all opposition media, leave only Russia-1, channel 1 and tnt. Of the artists, show only the pugachikha, kirkorov, buzov and bilan. Then we will live fellow
      Eh, dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness ...
      1. Victoria-V 10 January 2020 14: 20 New
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        Please include Baskov in the petition! I propose also to discuss here his last clip with Kirkorov about the cat Felix.
        1. kjhg 10 January 2020 16: 42 New
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          Quote: Victoria-In
          Please include Baskov in the petition!

          Is accepted.
          Quote: Victoria-In
          I propose also to discuss here his last clip with Kirkorov about the cat Felix.

          Lay out an article on this topic, we will discuss without fail. Nevertheless, this is indeed an important issue for the country. Only at first we will deal with world geopolitical issues, relations with Ukraine and the war in Syria smile
  • rotmistr60 10 January 2020 11: 19 New
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    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Announces Statements
    The statement of this "miracle" dancing at the "rainbow" parade is certainly worth a lot. This is an ordinary hype to the Americans, who were the first to voice this version without forgetting to emphasize their belonging to Russian weapons. Then, naturally, with a falsetto, an English disheveled eccentric sang clearly adhering to his own rule about a "dead cat thrown onto the table." And off ...
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    HAM 10 January 2020 11: 22 New
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    The Americans suddenly decided to cut dividends from this situation.
    Urgently find outside forces that they sing.
    Just like with a Boeing near Donetsk, before the debris reached the ground, the perpetrators were already assigned ...
    Only for some reason they realized in a day, probably, they were looking for suitable fragments of the Tor rocket in warehouses ...
  • Qwertyarion 10 January 2020 11: 23 New
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    In business! No one is interested in the fact that in the black boxes of the plane, some stopudo-accurate versions of who is to blame and what they shot down.
    It looks like Canadian Intelligence is becoming more popular than British Scientists.
  • Paul Siebert 10 January 2020 11: 32 New
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    Recently, NTV presented a film about the beginning of the Chechen war.
    Tears are welling up - heroic guys are journalists!
    How to get through the checkpoints of "both of these."
    Risking life ...
    We only forgot how Elena Masiuk stood up against the backdrop of our burned soldiers in Grozny ...
    He reported the failure of the operation and the spirit of the "freedom fighters."
    And when she was released from Zindan, the wrestlers stated that she was not going to say "about these animals."
    Everything is relative.
    When your ass starts, the world becomes different. And the money goes by the wayside ...
  • knn54 10 January 2020 11: 39 New
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    They lie not only to people, but also to themselves-spiders in the bank. Where so much bile can be taken?
  • Altona 10 January 2020 12: 20 New
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    In fairness, I must say that the liberal media at the present time can be listened to and watched. And there are a number of reasons for this. The first reason is a powerful information environment that successfully opposes official television media and has already successfully bitten off a significant chunk of the audience from them. The second reason is that liberal media are not shy about inviting or referring to opinion leaders whom the official media have successfully forgotten or marginalized. Even the omnipotent Old Man Lukashenko visited Echo recently. And before that there were Nightingale, Shevchenko and other oppositionists. Navalny creates his investigations in an interesting way, and the last, hmm, about a girl with a yacht and a personal business jet caused the effect of a bomb. Of course, liberal media observers draw their own conclusions, but they give out a texture so rich that it’s worth looking, but you need to draw your own conclusions, first of all, due to your own experience and worldview. It is not necessary to accept everything as issued by the mouth of a talking head.
    1. Alex Justice 10 January 2020 17: 53 New
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      Without freedom of the press, democracy is not possible. And people themselves will figure out who is who.
  • Jarserge 10 January 2020 12: 29 New
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    Is it an advertisement of liberal agitprop or what?
    1. bober1982 10 January 2020 12: 42 New
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      Quote: Jarserge
      Is it an advertisement of liberal agitprop or what?

      Yes, that's right, they are no longer shy and are not hiding. Masks dropped, no one to believe. And, hereinafter:
      Lacy panties dropped, I began to see clearly ............, from the works of ukrodyurochki.
    2. Altona 10 January 2020 15: 29 New
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      Is it an advertisement of liberal agitprop or what?

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      This is an objective reality that exists in the media. As for the "advertising". Do you offer to watch a political stand-up served from TV? Where clowned in "journalists" and "observers" clowns carry loyal nonsense? Where, instead of the current agenda, is there a general praise in honor of senility? Yes, I watch the liberal, nationalist, communist and just opposition press. I look at reviews even of the ultra-right in the form of Valery Nightingale, in the form of the Tsargrad TV channel. And in the whole spectrum of these media, officialdom has long been unacceptable, like the sugary cover of Cypriots and schlegel-patriots, who will impose anti-people laws here and then to Germany as "mentally close." I do not open here either America or the Pandora’s box, and many have long agreed with me, except for fans of the political political stand-up.
  • kupitman 10 January 2020 12: 41 New
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    Tehran needs a crisis in order to maintain a regime of power, the totalitarianism of which is growing every time.

    But do the Suadis need a crisis? Are they kind of like a totalitarian regime or not?
    well, over there, the current women were allowed to drive (oh, sighted, but it's about something else), but in Iran it was always possible, in Iran there are women even in parliament, they don’t even have to go with their heads covered ... But then such. Iran is totalitarian, but there is no CA, democracy is a local spill ...
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    bar 10 January 2020 12: 47 New
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    The materials on Echo of Moscow look somewhat different.

    No wonder. Normal experts have not gone into this cesspool for a long time; It is only surprising that this enemy nest is supported by the money of our "national treasure." How long? angry
  • Ilya Pronyashin 10 January 2020 12: 57 New
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    Some kind of arrogant, lazy review
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    The West is obsessed with Russian Torahs. The West probably likes them. Now, in any crash of the aircraft, “Tor” will be in first place among the accused,
  • iouris 10 January 2020 13: 07 New
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    The concept of "liberal" is discounted because it is meaningless. Today, “liberal” is understood to mean everything that openly pursues the globalist agenda, which is represented by supranational structures, which Soros represents. These structures destroy nation states. Nobody can resist them. The national states go from the fair, so the "elites" flee from the ship, integrate into various structures such as PACE.
  • businessv 10 January 2020 13: 14 New
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    Tehran needs a crisis in order to maintain a regime of power, the totalitarianism of which is growing every time.
    Since 1979, Tehran has been living under mattress sanctions, all this time neither the political system of the Islamic Republic, nor the principles of leadership set forth in the Constitution have changed. What crisis can be beneficial for him is completely incomprehensible. To build up the "totalitarianism" declared in the Constitution? Rave! Majlis works, passes laws. The mattresses never liked this, so they will do everything to discredit Iran and its leadership, no matter what they do. Such resources flow river and past the box office! How can one take this calmly, especially after Iran was completely controlled by the West before the Revolution ?!
  • Amateur 10 January 2020 13: 28 New
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    statements by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who, citing intelligence, said the passenger Boeing was inadvertently shot down by an Iranian missile.

    Trudeau has been saying a lot lately. I want Powell laurels with a test tube.
    What about the evidence?

    THIS, lying in the middle of nowhere, but just in the middle of some box and starting to overgrow with grass, is given out as the GOS of the Iranian missile that shot down the Boeing. Exactly according to I.A. Krylov:
    "It’s your fault that I want to eat."
    And full confidence that only the full ones remained in the world (The name of the novel by F. Dostoevsky about Nastasya Filippovna, which is considered abusive at the VO), which the people are shaking. Even 30-40 years ago, politicians at the level of the prime minister cared about their reputation. And now, no reputation, no honesty. Only PR.
  • Lord of the Sith 10 January 2020 13: 43 New
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    Oh, these storytellers, iksperdy. laughing

    Before farting loudly live, a commission is first created for the fallen liner, evidence is being collected, and an investigation is underway.
    And the clowns have already delivered a verdict.
  • Operator 10 January 2020 13: 52 New
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    Here is this informative message seriously (and not transfusion from empty to empty with different echoes and rains):

    "Kuwait's defense minister, Nasser al-Ahmad al-Sabah, stated that the United States notified him of his intention to withdraw his troops from the Arifjan base within three days, RIA Novosti reported with reference to the Kuwaiti agency Kuna." We received a letter from the commander of the American troops in Kuwait that the United States will withdraw its troops from the Arifjan military base within the next three days, "the agency quotes the minister."
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    a simple "question": television channels (let it be Rain or the City, or even Snow) published something there, showed, spoke ... And who knows or knew about it?
    And now ... In order to expand the audience of those knowledgeable in other media, all kinds of small-town proclamations are beginning to debate. And some result is achieved. The audience is expanded. And if before the enlightened ones it was 1 out of 10. Now, probably, 5 out of 10.
    And what would all these "rains with hail and snow" do if such an extra. was there no "advertisement"?
    The media as a whole existed and exist ONLY under the indispensable condition that they are read, all their fresh snowstorm and nonsense. And if this factor approaches "0", thenooooh ... so many problems would disappear.
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  • Alexander Lik 10 January 2020 20: 41 New
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    Trudeau is nowhere more powerful support. Obviously, the US knocked Boeing out of habit, but it was so clumsy that they themselves were afraid of responsibility, so much so that they were ready to “forgive” Iran.
  • faterdom 10 January 2020 20: 45 New
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    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Echo of Moscow is a project funded by Gazprom. Gazprom, as you know, is a national treasure. Conclusion: "Echo of Moscow" - a national treasure)

    What about Medusa? But how can you think bad of her? Golunov himself was there, he just wanted to smoke, and he was set up! And here again they substitute? How many more generals to dismiss? Well, so that the nonpolitians were at least a little satisfied?
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    you are not tired of quoting these foul-smelling, filthy sedimentation tanks, just capable of turning everything upside down and lying godlessly. it's time to just slam these perverts.
  • Protos 11 January 2020 11: 40 New
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    Well, "Echo Matzi" and "Rain of Exile" they are!
    There are always enemies of the people who agree for 30 silver coins to betray their mother and even the state of Israel laughing
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