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Israel announced a breakthrough in the creation of a laser air defense system

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Israel announced a breakthrough in the creation of a laser air defense system

The Israeli Ministry of Defense has announced the introduction of a new laser air defense system. The achievement of a “technological breakthrough” in the development of this system is mentioned in a press release distributed by the Israeli defense department.


The Department of Defense Research and Development under the Ministry of Defense reports that a technological breakthrough has been made in the development of interception lasers (missiles)

- lead news agency post.

According to Israeli media, the latest laser system will complement the already existing Iron Dome missile defense, shooting down guided missiles and drones. Tests are scheduled for 2021.

According to Brigadier General Yaniv Rotem, head of the Department of Arms and Technological Infrastructure Development Department of the Ministry of Defense (MAFAT), each laser shot will cost about one dollar, not counting the cost of the system, compared to the tens of thousands of dollars that each system interceptor missile costs " The Iron Dome. "

According to Haaretz, each Iron Dome rocket costs about 49 thousand dollars, while, according to the publication, the interception using a laser system will cost about $ 3,5. The only drawback of the new laser system is that it does not function well in conditions of poor visibility.

According to reports, three versions of the new system will be created: static ground, mobile ground and mobile air, which will be placed on airplanes.
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  1. Azazelo
    Azazelo 9 January 2020 08: 27
    -2
    The demonstration will be this or that, another chatter .... like Iran missiles for us ...
    1. gmb
      gmb 9 January 2020 08: 30
      +16
      They will call you laughing
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 9 January 2020 08: 54
        -1
        Cartoons are already being prepared. Licensed. Anyone who wants to can look for a paid subscription to ivi.ru. Jews know how to make a profit!))

        But seriously, in vain Putin showed cartoons. Several countries at once intensely entered the race. And the output will no longer be cartoons. Israelis show how developed countries around the world can quickly close the gap. ... And one day they can overtake.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 9 January 2020 09: 46
          +10
          "Putin showed cartoons in vain" ... The rest in response (!) Will no longer make cartoons.
          How so?
          "All other developed countries" will close the gap with what? With cartoons?
          And since they rushed to eliminate the backlog, maybe it is not the cartoons that "Putin showed", but what is actually created in Russia?
          And then it turns out that Russia will develop the rest, including Israel.
          Here you have cartoons.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 9 January 2020 10: 06
            +2
            Quote: Mestny
            since they rushed eliminate the backlog, so maybe it's not about the cartoons that "Putin showed", but about what is actually created in Russia?

            If Putin did not show this, then perhaps they would not have rushed with such zeal. And we would have a handicap. Russia, too, did not do all this from scratch, but based on Soviet developments and a scientific base.
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            Israeli experts tackled the topic of combat lasers in the mid seventies

            That's all long do lasers and hypersound too. But somehow, neither shaky nor roll. But the special activation and acceleration began precisely after Putin demonstrated this. Putin has set the bar for everyone. This topic began to flicker often. The states say that now they will have hypersound.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 9 January 2020 19: 47
              +1
              No matter how negatively I feel about Israel’s foreign policy, it’s impossible not to admit that they don’t talk in vain.
              If by the year 2021 they promised to test laser defense, then in 2022 there will definitely be tests.
              However, given that manufacturers of Iron Dome missiles will lose stable income, resistance to implementation will not be weak.
            2. bulvas
              bulvas 10 January 2020 20: 58
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              If Putin did not show this, then perhaps they would not have rushed with such zeal. And we would have a handicap. Russia, too, did not do all this from scratch, but based on Soviet developments and a scientific base.



              They all knew without cartoons.

              Cartoons - for journalists and the public
              Intelligence knows enough to react.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 9 January 2020 09: 54
          +8
          Quote: Stas157
          But seriously, in vain Putin showed cartoons. Several countries at once intensely entered the race. And the output will no longer be cartoons.

          According to known data, Israeli experts took up the topic of combat lasers in the mid-seventies. In 1974, a laser weapons research program was launched. With the participation of IAI and Rafael, the main aspects of such weapons were investigated and prototypes built. In early 2014, the Israeli company Rafael first introduced a new missile defense project called Keren Barzel (Iron Ray).
          In the summer of 2018, exercises of the ground forces took place in Israel, during which a new structure of the Gideon type brigade was worked out. Within the framework of these exercises, several promising samples were tested for the first time in the field. Together with other products, the air defense and missile defense system Magen Gideon (Gideon's Shield) was tested.
          It is known from open sources that at least two or three promising missile defense systems have been developed in Israel that can hit targets with a high-power directional laser beam.
          Among other things, this means that somewhere on secret Israeli bases there may be new combat laser systems that the general public does not know about yet
          THIS IS WHAT YOU TOLD.
          NUMBER OF DISADVANTAGES DELIVERED TO ME DO NOT INFLUENCE ON THE DEFENSE OF ISRAEL!
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          2. lucul
            lucul 9 January 2020 11: 00
            0
            Among other things, this means that somewhere on secret Israeli bases there may be new combat laser systems that the general public does not know about yet
            THIS IS WHAT YOU TOLD.
            THE NUMBER OF DISADVANTAGES DELIVERED TO ME DO NOT AFFECT THE DEFENSE OF ISRAEL!

            This is all a game to the public.
            Iran scared Israel with this missile attack. And now you are throwing a misinformation, trying to make Iran doubt its ability to overcome Israel’s air defense.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 9 January 2020 11: 13
              -4
              Quote: lucul
              Iran scared Israel with this missile attack. And now you are throwing a misinformation, trying to make Iran doubt its ability to overcome Israel’s air defense.

              This is your point of view.
              Israel has been scared for many years and more.
              The amount of weapons that the USSR supplied to the countries that they tried to destroy is not today in either Syria or Iran.
              Yes, everyone understands that Iranian satellites may be hit, may there be damage, may there be sacrifices PEACEFUL population. But Israel will continue to coexist, unlike the countries of aggressors.
              NOT DEPENDING ON YOUR POINT OF VIEW!
            2. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 11: 26
              +1
              If this were misleading, they would talk about a super-superlaser shooting down satellites in geostationary orbit, and not talk about a tactical laser designed to complement the Iron Dome.
            3. Yarr
              Yarr 9 January 2020 11: 26
              +1
              - This is all a game to the public.
              Iran scared Israel with this missile attack. And now you are throwing a misinformation, trying to make Iran doubt its ability to overcome Israeli air defense .-


              It is not logical, the declared capabilities of the new laser development do not cover ballistic missiles. And Iran can attack Israel only with ballistic missiles, due to the geographical location of the countries.
        3. venik
          venik 9 January 2020 14: 13
          -1
          Quote: Stas157
          But seriously, in vain Putin showed cartoons.

          ========
          "Cartoons-cartoons" ...... And "Peresvet" has long been on the BATTLE DUTY !!! And not on "combat pilot"..... but on a COMPLETELY REAL database !!! Almost all divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces are equipped with them !! And this is NOT" CAROL "- this is harsh reality!
          TTX ("Peresvet") we do not know - so THEM we and not soon will show (if at all during our generation they will show) ... And in the meantime ... If the weapon is on alert, then somewhere "in the depths" of the research institute and design bureau is already developing something MORE PERFECT! Alas! This is the banal logic of scientific and technological progress! hi
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 9 January 2020 16: 33
            +1
            "We do not know the performance characteristics (" Peresvet ") - they will not show them to us soon (if they will show them at all during our generation)" ////
            ---
            You put it beautifully! good
        4. Sergei 23
          Sergei 23 9 January 2020 14: 17
          +1
          The cartoon was shown primarily for the internal user (the election however!), And only for this parted the veil of secrecy. In my opinion.
    2. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 9 January 2020 08: 30
      +2
      They said the same in 2021 will show smile
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 9 January 2020 10: 09
        -3
        Quote: Pessimist22
        They said the same in 2021 will show

        It doesn’t matter when it is shown, but it is important when it is APPLIED.
      2. venik
        venik 9 January 2020 14: 23
        +1
        Quote: Pessimist22
        They said the same in 2021 will show smile

        =======
        Show - so "show"! (If it will be!)....

        "... I will kiss you! ..... Maybe ..... Then ..... If you want !! ..." (x / f "Aunt Charley")
    3. Yves762
      Yves762 9 January 2020 08: 31
      +1
      Right behind Peresvet ... wassat
      Although that is me.?.
      Here https://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/boevoj-lazer-peresvet-kak-rabotaet-i-zachem-on-rossii/#a01 they say that this is still a "pointer" and not a "hyperbole". So yes, the Israelis will go to another level. I must also show ... soldier
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 09: 00
        0
        For fifteen years before, actually.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 January 2020 09: 02
        +7
        And what is Peresvet? We found?
      3. Bar2
        Bar2 9 January 2020 09: 23
        +1
        Quote: Yves762
        Immediately after Peresvet


        Yes, yes, such an analogy is quite appropriate because Putin and Netanyahu have very close relations.
    4. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 9 January 2020 08: 34
      +4
      Quote: Azazelo
      The demonstration will be

      The demonstration will be. IDF rollers releases pixar envy. How they will solve beam problems.
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 9 January 2020 08: 37
        +4
        And what, their answer to the Mosfilm request
    5. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 9 January 2020 08: 36
      +6
      Quote: Azazelo
      The demonstration will be or so, another chatter

      do you need a cartoon? hi
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 9 January 2020 08: 40
        +2
        No. But we were already trying to bet ...
    6. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 08: 59
      -6
      The demonstration (first) was almost 20 years ago.
    7. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 January 2020 09: 03
      +5
      Yesterday, the Moscow Region announced that within a few months, environmental testing should be carried out, which should confirm the success of the development. T / e statement is quite official, this is not an informational drain. As for the video, so far there are only cartoons.
      1. Siberia 75
        Siberia 75 9 January 2020 09: 17
        +3
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Yesterday, Moscow Region announced that final tests should be carried out within a few months.

        If anyone is the first to release a workable laser system, it will be either Russians or Russians who left for Israel, under the legend of the Jews. winked
        1. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 9 January 2020 09: 28
          +2
          In fact, you are right, no one in Israel considers our Jews to be Jews, just like Germans in Germany, Germans, this is a fact.
          1. atalef
            atalef 9 January 2020 10: 52
            +2
            Quote: Pessimist22
            In fact, you are right, no one in Israel considers our Jews to be Jews, just like Germans in Germany, Germans, this is a fact.

            What a stupid thing.
          2. Bukhalov
            Bukhalov 9 January 2020 11: 17
            +3
            Quote: Pessimist22
            In fact, you are right, no one in Israel considers our Jews to be Jews, just like Germans in Germany, Germans, this is a fact.

            Not as a matter of discussion, but as an educational program. Traditionally, Jewish returnees are named after the country of origin. Immigrants from Morocco - Moroccans, from Poland - Poles, from Georgia - Georgians, from the USSR - Russians. There have never been systemic conflicts in Israel over who came from and from. And Russian aliyah, either from the Republic of Ingushetia or from the USSR, is the most successful of all. Representatives of the Russian Aliyah are widely represented in the elite of Israel, culture, science, and elsewhere. However, like immigrants from other countries, it all depends on the abilities of this or that repatriate. In Israel, there is no concept of "Disabled fifth column", which took place in relation to Jews in the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.
      2. Bar2
        Bar2 9 January 2020 09: 31
        -2
        we have the same cartoons as with one studio go.
      3. Lena Petrova
        Lena Petrova 10 January 2020 18: 25
        0
        Are there cloudy days in the sky of Israel?
    8. Voyager
      Voyager 9 January 2020 09: 09
      +1
      We don’t show our Relight
      1. cost
        cost 9 January 2020 09: 34
        +5
        battle Lazarus wink
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 9 January 2020 10: 48
        +3
        "We do not demonstrate our Peresvet either" ////
        --- '
        We will definitely demonstrate.
        As the Iron Dome shows at various exhibitions.
        And this laser will be brought to international military exhibitions for sales. With obligatory demonstrations on real goals. Otherwise, no one will buy.
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 9 January 2020 10: 50
          +1
          Then we will discuss drinks
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 9 January 2020 10: 51
            +2
            Accepted! drinks Merry Christmas!
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 9 January 2020 13: 17
              0
              Good wishes, Alex! smile
  2. Amateur
    Amateur 9 January 2020 08: 31
    -8
    Brigadier General Yaniva Rotema, each laser shot will cost about one dollar,

    And the Israelis will probably receive energy for pumping the laser by removing the static electricity obtained by simultaneously stroking cats with the entire population of Israel.
    Do Israeli generals really need a head just to wear a cap? fool
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 9 January 2020 08: 40
      +5
      You can still put strippers ebony poles and silk pajamas to give out!
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 9 January 2020 08: 45
        +1
        This is correct and much cooler! But there are two but: 1. it is unlikely that Israel has enough strip clubs to provide the necessary capacity; 2. On Saturdays, Israel will be defenseless - Shabbat. hi
    2. Yves762
      Yves762 9 January 2020 08: 44
      0
      Chemical lasers - there are such for example. feel
      https://nplus1.ru/news/2019/12/03/missiles
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 9 January 2020 09: 01
        0
        There remained a mere trifle: to invent a "perpetum mobile" and to abolish the first law of thermodynamics. But thermodynamics is easier. Trump will have to declare that economic sanctions will be imposed on those countries that will comply with the requirements of the first law.
      2. Roman1970_1
        Roman1970_1 9 January 2020 09: 10
        +3
        Announced that this is an electric laser, not a chemical one. And a breakthrough in obtaining the necessary power.
        The tests were successful and final tests within a few months. If everything goes well, then by the end of the year will go to the troops
        1. Amateur
          Amateur 9 January 2020 09: 51
          +3
          It's nice to feel like a participant in the 1948 VASKhNIL session. You tell them about the monk Mendel and his "Laws of Inheritance". And the answer to you: "Genetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism."
          Announced that this is an electric laser, not a chemical one. And a breakthrough in obtaining the necessary power.

          They took in Israel and repealed the first law of thermodynamics.
      3. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 9 January 2020 10: 27
        -2
        Quote: Yves762
        Chemical lasers - there are such for example.

        As part of a joint Israeli-American project launched in 1995, a tactical high-power laser "Nautilus" (Nautilus THEL) was created. During the tests, he shot down 28 Katyusha missiles and several artillery and mortar shells. However, the complex had a significant drawback: to generate a laser beam, it was required a large number of toxic chemicals which made him bulky and limited in mobility. (Does this remind you of anything?) In this regard, in January 2006, it was decided to freeze all work on this project.
        1. Yves762
          Yves762 9 January 2020 12: 05
          +1
          So what?
          Has fundamental impossibility been proven?
          Then not mastered. And almost 15 years later, the technology changed, something was finished, something was thought up, something was bought / stolen, in the end the mixture was replaced (and in lasers too fellow )...etc. etc.
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 9 January 2020 13: 48
            -2
            Quote: Yves762
            And almost 15 years later, the technology changed, something was finished, something was thought up, something was bought / stolen, in the end the mixtures were replaced (and in lasers too) ... etc. etc.

            If you are interested in the details, then you can contact all questions
            Raphael HQ
            +972 73 335 4444
            [email protected]
            POB 2250, Haifa, 3102102 Israel
      4. donMigel
        donMigel 9 January 2020 20: 14
        -1
        Quote: Yves762
        Chemical lasers


        It is a question of a breakthrough because chemical ones cannot give what those acting on electricity give. By the end of 2020, the Iron Dome will be put on alert as a "backup". I don't think this is a fake since Elbit and Rafael are too serious players. Do not wait long, well, the opponent will try to load in full.
    3. Professor
      Professor 9 January 2020 08: 44
      +6
      Quote: Amateur
      Brigadier General Yaniva Rotema, each laser shot will cost about one dollar,

      And the Israelis will probably receive energy for pumping the laser by removing the static electricity obtained by simultaneously stroking cats with the entire population of Israel.
      Do Israeli generals really need a head just to wear a cap? fool

      Yes, they are these Israeli generals. They promise what they got and nobody ever remembers this. Well, you yourself remember the examples. No? wink

      Laser efficiency reaches 20%. To intercept the target, kilowatts are needed, respectively, the pump energy of the same order. And where to get the kilowatt generator? laughing

      https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/358190.html
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 9 January 2020 08: 56
        +3
        It surely works for you! Yes ? In Russia, then cartoons ..
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 January 2020 09: 02
          -3
          Quote: vitvit123
          It surely works for you! Yes ? In Russia, then cartoons ..

          I do not know. So far, we have cartoons on this subject.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 9 January 2020 19: 16
            +1
            nothing is easier than waiting ....
      2. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 09: 02
        -2
        An ordinary civilian diesel generator with a capacity of 25 kW costs 283 thousand rubles. Literally in three seconds I found on the Web.
      3. Gust
        Gust 9 January 2020 09: 07
        0
        It depends on what purpose. It is for interception that tens of kilowatts are needed. On a wheeled truck chassis, even 100 kW is not a problem in cooling and energy.
        A breakthrough in something ?? Maybe we managed to solve the problem of breakdown / self-focusing, or maybe a new transparency window was cut through in the atmosphere?;))
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          1. Gust
            Gust 9 January 2020 09: 19
            +5
            By itself, the accuracy of guidance did not cause problems before - everything is much simpler than in missile-cannon air defense. There are also a bunch of original videos confirming the accuracy of spot retention on the target.
            But dynamic focusing is already more fun. It is necessary to obtain data on the state of the atmosphere at the range of the shot and adjust it in real mode for the maximum energy density on the target. Astronomers have similar solutions in adaptive optics.
        2. Bukhalov
          Bukhalov 9 January 2020 10: 46
          +1
          Quote: Rafale
          It depends on what purpose. It is for interception that tens of kilowatts are needed. On a wheeled truck chassis, even 100 kW is not a problem in cooling and energy.
          A breakthrough in something ?? Maybe we managed to solve the problem of breakdown / self-focusing, or maybe a new transparency window was cut through in the atmosphere?;))

          1. A fantastic reduction in the cost of a shot, which is zero compared to the current one;
          2. Compact, allowing the use of a laser system, both on media and on a minimum area;
          3. The solution to the problem of power of the laser installation.
          No one argues that the invention is completely once and for all in time and space. But at the moment, against the background of the air defense systems available in the world, this is an unconditional breakthrough. Like the same atomic weapon in the 45th, against the background of conventional weapons. Laser defense of Israel and other countries will be improved. And the fact that Israel is a recognized leader in inventions in all sectors, including weapons, is not surprising. By the number of startups, and in absolute terms, Israel is second only to the United States. And in terms of arms exports, again in absolute terms, it is among the top ten on the planet. So the comparison of Israel on the World War with Mozambique is lame. Moreover, all the while.
          1. MMX
            MMX 10 January 2020 12: 06
            +1
            Quote: Bukhalov
            Quote: Rafale
            It depends on what purpose. It is for interception that tens of kilowatts are needed. On a wheeled truck chassis, even 100 kW is not a problem in cooling and energy.
            A breakthrough in something ?? Maybe we managed to solve the problem of breakdown / self-focusing, or maybe a new transparency window was cut through in the atmosphere?;))

            1. A fantastic reduction in the cost of a shot, which is zero compared to the current one;
            2. Compact, allowing the use of a laser system, both on media and on a minimum area;
            3. The solution to the problem of power of the laser installation.


            There is no information, but some comrades are sure that there is a breakthrough in at least three areas ... wassat

            No one argues that the invention is completely once and for all in time and space. But at the moment, amid the world’s existing air defense systems, this is an unconditional breakthrough

            Uh-huh. And these comrades are still sarcastic about "having no analogues" ...

            And the fact that Israel is a recognized leader in inventions in all sectors, including weapons, is not surprising

            In your imagination, yes, that's exactly how it is, and even more lol

            By the number of startups, and in absolute terms, Israel is second only to the United States

            To give commercial projects as scientific and technological achievements are five good

            And in terms of arms exports, again in absolute terms, it is among the top ten on the planet.

            I didn’t understand here. Second in startups, and only ten in arms sales ... crying
          2. bk316
            bk316 10 January 2020 14: 24
            +1
            And in terms of arms exports, again in absolute terms, it is among the top ten on the planet

            Following your logic, the breakthrough was made by Peresvet, not a hypothetical crap from Israel: after all, the Russian Federation is in the SECOND place in arms export and Israel is only in the fifth laughing And the separation is approximately 10 times!
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 10 January 2020 15: 37
              -4
              Quote: bk316
              And the separation is approximately 10 times!

              Israel is 820 times smaller than Russia
              GDP per capita is almost XNUMX times higher than in Russia; weapons are sold not only by the Papuans but also to Europe and the USA.
              1. bk316
                bk316 10 January 2020 15: 52
                +2
                GDP per capita is almost XNUMX times higher than in Russia

                Well, you sang liberal songs about GDP FOR THE SOUL. And is this in the production of weapons? First on YOUR INDICATOR LUXEMBOURG did he produce a lot of weapons? Are you a Jew, you have to be smart, can liberal cliches really turn off the brain too smart?

                sells not only to the Papuans but also to Europe and the USA.

                Well, if the Turks are Chinese, the Greeks are Papuans, then I do not envy you with your mercenary allies laughing
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 10 January 2020 16: 04
                  -1
                  Quote: bk316
                  And is this in the production of weapons?

                  Humanity not only wants to fight and develop militarism, it also wants LIVE OK. And well, this is a good job in which they produce what they need and get a good salary, And this GIVE A CHANCE buy a good apartment or house, new modern cars (not used with 4 hands) travel the world (not Turkey and Egypt), eat well (not malva oil). And do not be proud that you can destroy people.
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 10 January 2020 16: 08
                    +2
                    This is a 100% flood Article about the BATTLE LASER.

                    And personally, I note that in addition to the opportunity
                    buy a good apartment or house, new modern cars (not used with 4 hands) travel the world (not Turkey and Egypt), eat well (not malva oil).

                    PEOPLE still want a lot of things otherwise they are not people but CONSUMERS.
                    Well, apparently you do not understand.
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 10 January 2020 16: 23
                      0
                      Quote: bk316
                      Well, apparently you do not understand.

                      Yes, I agree with you.
                      Apparently you do not understand. For the simple reason that since 1917 the former serfs have been hammered into the head "First think about the Motherland ת and then about yourself"
                      But in fact, the most important thing is a simple person, and when the government (homeland) thinks about how this person lives, then the person thinks about the HOMELAND. (for example me)
    4. perm23
      perm23 9 January 2020 09: 16
      +2
      but why did you give out the military secret of Israel. Their know-how ...
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 9 January 2020 09: 29
        0
        Well, yes, the know-how of "Engineer Garin", and the secret is Israeli. lol Again - everyone is working on it. And perhaps no less successful.
  3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 January 2020 08: 36
    +1
    - Lord, what does he write there? .. "I'm losing my mind" Great!
  4. Aliken
    Aliken 9 January 2020 08: 38
    -6
    Then to every Israeli soldier with a laser sword. In Hollywood they’ll do it.
    1. Yuri Yaroshevsky
      Yuri Yaroshevsky 9 January 2020 18: 51
      0
      If in Israel they started talking about this breakthrough, it means everything is real .... They have been working on this for a long time and apparently have achieved success if they promise to place it on drones ...........
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 January 2020 08: 40
    +1
    The only drawback of the new laser system is that it does not function well in conditions of poor visibility.
    Clear. Iran will wait for snowfall. feel
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    2. Mestny
      Mestny 9 January 2020 09: 51
      -2
      The only drawback of the new laser system is that it does not function well in conditions of poor visibility.

      Probably not working at night.
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 9 January 2020 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Iran will wait for snowfall

      There is a problem.
      "Climate change in Iran is suspicious. Israel and another country in the region have common teams that are working to ensure that the clouds that enter the Iranian sky cannot release rain," said General of the Iranian army Gholam Reza.
      The general also noted that we are talking about snow theft since heights of about 2200 meters in Afghanistan and the Mediterranean are covered in snow, but not in Iran. laughing lol
      1. gmb
        gmb 9 January 2020 13: 43
        -1
        Judging by the fact that Israel is now pouring, they simply pour water from the clouds, to their own detriment tongue
  6. Tank hard
    Tank hard 9 January 2020 08: 43
    +2
    When a breakthrough occurs, you must urgently call the emergency service, so as not to flood ... feel
  7. mark1
    mark1 9 January 2020 08: 45
    +1
    The Iron Cupid (Hebrew כיפת ברזל - Kipat Barzel, English Iron Dome - Iron Dome) is a tactical missile defense system designed to protect against unguided tactical missiles with a flight range of 4 to 70 kilometers.
    (Wikipedia)
    the latest laser system will complement the existing Iron Dome missile defense system by shooting down guided missiles and drones.


    Apparently, a tactical laser 30-100 kW
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 9 January 2020 10: 57
      +2
      To burn Grad missiles and mortar mines, you need at least 100 kW. This all stopped. In combat trials near Gaza, the laser is already 3 years old.
      The guidance system from the Iron Dome. But there was not enough power for reliable destruction of the target per unit of time. Therefore, it was not put into service. Now, it seems, have changed the laser.
      1. mark1
        mark1 9 January 2020 11: 02
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Now, it seems, have changed the laser.

        Maybe several semiconductor - up to 100 kW and typed.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 9 January 2020 11: 21
          +2
          Lasers are already "stacked" - a common beam is formed from dozens of beams of different frequencies. They heat the stain together, but do not interfere with each other. 100 (or more) kW is the sum.
          Moreover, the frequencies (wavelength) can be changed dynamically using software, adjusting the laser even for a certain weather. On a dry hike - some frequencies, in a fog - others. For maximum efficiency.
          In general, with this now - a technological breakthrough.
          1. mark1
            mark1 9 January 2020 11: 22
            +1
            Yes, I'm generally about the same thing, only generalized.
  8. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 9 January 2020 08: 48
    -5
    Those. do not shoot in the rain or dust storm, is that not fair? So why yell that super-duper ...
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 9 January 2020 08: 58
      -1
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Those. do not shoot in the rain or dust storm, is that not fair? So why yell that super-duper ...

      No, they just said - the cost of the Ain $ shot, and the downing is $ 3,5. request
      1. mark1
        mark1 9 January 2020 10: 57
        +3
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Ain $ shot cost, and $ 3,5 shot down.

        Shot cost + cost of work + VAT + UST + personal income tax TOTAL 3,5
        It is also necessary to take into account the district K (utilization fee is not excluded)
    2. knn54
      knn54 9 January 2020 09: 01
      +1
      The "iron beam", however. FIFTH ABM / Air Defense Line.
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 January 2020 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Those. do not shoot in the rain or dust storm, is that not fair? So why yell that super-duper ...

      No one talks about creating the perfect weapon, but as one of the systems of multilevel defense it is quite a sound development if it is successful.
  9. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 08: 58
    0
    Fifteen years ago, Israel developed (in collaboration with Northrop-Grumman) a working laser system for intercepting missiles. It was called "Nautilus", and fit in three standard shipping containers. Due to problems with hitting targets in poor visibility conditions (dust, fog, clouds), it was not accepted for service, although a shot from it was much cheaper than an interceptor missile for the Iron Dome. Since then, technologies have advanced and now a system of similar power can be placed on the basis of a conventional truck, but the problem of the dependence of laser weapons on the weather will not be solved anyway, so the new complex will only be an addition to the already existing missile defense systems and only at short distances.
    1. Professor
      Professor 9 January 2020 09: 07
      +2
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      but the problem of the dependence of the laser weapon on the weather still cannot be solved,

      Not certainly in that way. The same fog is "not fog" in the entire spectrum, but only in the visible. Next, a powerful laser pierces a tunnel in an "opaque atmosphere" ...
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 09: 18
        0
        As a former active user of the laser designator and laser rangefinder (both work outside the visible spectrum), I can say that the weather affects them too. To break through (and most importantly, maintain) the "tunnel" the power must be enormous.
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 January 2020 09: 23
          +1
          And what kind of power is needed to burn a flying and rotating artillery shell ... wink
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 9 January 2020 09: 44
            0
            Power should be large, much more necessary for a simple target designation.
        2. Gust
          Gust 9 January 2020 09: 25
          +2
          Density, not power. It is impossible to increase to infinity, there will be a breakdown of the medium. The main problem in the heterogeneity of the medium is that it cannot work at a great distance, the solutions of the equations diverge.
  10. 3vs
    3vs 9 January 2020 09: 02
    0
    For an hour, from the developers of "Peresvet" and no one left for Israel?
  11. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 9 January 2020 09: 06
    -2
    The fact that Israel was able to "steal" our laser developments is quite real, and some of them can be adjusted to suit their needs. There, in Israel, half of "our people" (according to Vysotsky) !!! But I don't quite understand why Israel needs to install a laser on an aircraft to intercept missiles? What is the general confused? !!!! Or "our half of the people of Israel", trying to "snatch" the "second half" of not our people of Israel "living outside the Promised Land, another miracle !!!! You can't scare the Arabs with their Katyusha missiles with a laser, and you can't fool the Iranians - their missiles fly even in fog ... the general calls the price of a shot in dollars, not in shekels - not patriotic .... or not for his own people, but for others' "goods" good advertises !!!!
    1. Yuri Yaroshevsky
      Yuri Yaroshevsky 9 January 2020 18: 56
      -1
      Again, something was stolen from you ...... this is paranoia in the confidence of your greatness ........ It's funny .........
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 9 January 2020 20: 02
        0
        Oh, the Israelis are offended !!!! By the way, dear Yuri, I know your compatriots from the USSR and the Russian Federation who were very high-class specialists, and in Israel they only trusted them to operate the loader ... this is about paranoia of your greatness .... Funny ??? .....
        1. Yuri Yaroshevsky
          Yuri Yaroshevsky 10 January 2020 10: 54
          0
          Dear Vitaliy, this topic about elderly Jewish specialists who could not get along without knowledge of languages ​​will get a job by profession, though someone succeeded ........ they have been exaggerating for many years ......... Those specialists have long been gone ............ In Israel, for the most part, young people are engaged in the development of the USSR or Russia who have no relation ........... well, except for the grandchildren and children of repatriates ...... ... Grandchildren already do not know the language of Russian. ...........
          .........
          1. Dart
            Dart 10 January 2020 17: 01
            0
            Quote: Yuri Yaroshevsky
            Grandchildren already do not know the language of Russian. ...........

            who is here in VO then hangs out and poisons the atmosphere ... dinosaurs? laughing
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  12. rocket757
    rocket757 9 January 2020 09: 08
    +2
    technological breakthrough in the development of interception lasers (missiles)

    but let's see what they did. Here they are just fighting, real application \ test is provided.
  13. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 9 January 2020 09: 58
    -3
    Israel has all the time breakthroughs but in fact zilch
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 January 2020 10: 34
      +2
      Quote: Uncle Izya
      Israel has all the time breakthroughs but in fact zilch

      How do you say that you are not offended? They have a lot of interesting things, but not all of them show it. yes
      By the New Year I had a chance to get mini-peppers and sweet tangerines ... How did they manage to grow this? When I cook stuffed peppers, the aroma is in the porch ...
    2. Yuri Yaroshevsky
      Yuri Yaroshevsky 9 January 2020 18: 58
      -3
      This is you some zilch with rebar packs ....... And the Jews have words with deeds do not differ .....
      1. Uncle Izya
        Uncle Izya 9 January 2020 19: 13
        +2
        Oo not sit on israel sites?
        In the Russian world pulled?
  14. ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo
    ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo 9 January 2020 10: 32
    +1
    And what is the breakthrough?
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  15. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 9 January 2020 11: 23
    -3
    It will be necessary to help with the tests. Interestingly, Syria still has SCADAS alive? Just recently, Iran shunned them on American bases and successfully ...
    1. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 9 January 2020 19: 11
      0
      Iskander is true Russian I do not think they will intercept
  16. Last centurion
    Last centurion 9 January 2020 11: 32
    -1
    a breakthrough in our time can only be a source of energy. and breathing in the vlazers they are not news, as well as the use of them in fog, cloudiness, blizzard or rain. the horizon and kruglozemlenie also has not been canceled.
  17. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 9 January 2020 11: 35
    +1
    I wonder how long it takes to hold the beam to damage the rocket? Hold at one point on a maneuvering target. The limitation is not only bad weather. The installation must be installed in an open area. Because of the corner does not shoot. And what range, rate of fire? Isn't it cheaper? This is me so ... Thoughts aloud
  18. The popuas
    The popuas 9 January 2020 12: 12
    0
    So the Jews ,, Relight ,, appeared.
    .. soldier
  19. Old26
    Old26 9 January 2020 12: 49
    +5
    Quote: lucul
    Iran scared Israel with this missile attack.

    I don't think so, Vitaly. Several years ago, there was an analytical material by the Russian Defense Ministry on a possible Israeli missile defense system. The material is quite voluminous, several dozen pages. The authors are also not journalists from the media, but representatives of various companies, in particular, Almaz-Antey. The essence of the entire publication is that Israel can simultaneously intercept up to 75 (EMNIP) targets aimed at it. Irna, even with all her desire, will not be able to provide such a density of targets, despite the large number of missiles. Alas and ah, but there are a lot of missiles, but the launchers are an order of magnitude or two less. Therefore, I do not think that the "exemplary launch" on the American base has scared anyone too much. At a distance of half a thousand kilometers, Iran can still do something serious, but at a medium range, and even more so at a distance of 1,5-2 thousand kilometers, its capabilities are extremely limited

    Quote: Bukhalov
    They came from Morocco by the Moroccans, from Poland by the Poles, from Georgia by the Georgians, from the USSR by the Russians. There have never been systemic conflicts in Israel on the basis of who and where came from.

    Nda, I read this phrase of yours and remembered the words of my school friend who has been living in Israel for a quarter of a century. The bottom line is that a neighbor, a repatriate from Georgia, invited them to some kind of anniversary. And in the process of the feast they go out with their wife and return with two trays with the words: "And now I will treat you to the fact that, moreover, you have never tried, but you have not even heard the name."
    They put these two trays on the table, and my friend, looking at them (at the trays), is so lazy and says: "So what? Well, dolma, well, lobio." The owner's jaw hit the floor. When asked how he knows this, there was an answer. And I had a summer vacation in the North Caucasus with my friend (me) 40 years ago. So his grandmother every day subdued us with some new dish " laughing
    Sorry, for the memory "not in the subject"
  20. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 9 January 2020 14: 30
    -1
    The neighbors promised to help test.
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  22. valeryb
    valeryb 9 January 2020 19: 50
    -1
    I would like to hear the head of the Mihan workshop.
    For some reason, nowhere is it written that they announced a 5-kilometer radius of impact. That is, first of all, mines flying, and the dome is not canceled. Laser as the first, immediate train. Only at the second stage will they begin to work on increasing the radius of action
  23. yfast
    yfast 9 January 2020 20: 49
    0
    This lasers have to poke every kilometer. It will turn out not cheap.
    1. valeryb
      valeryb 10 January 2020 10: 04
      0
      Quote: yfast
      poke every kilometer

      Firstly no, secondly no way. Most likely, they will be installed in the main areas of the threat. Close to the border of the settlement and so on. And what falls in the field, let it fall.
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