Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream


Today, Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan officially launched the Turkish Stream gas pipeline. This event took place in Turkey, where the Russian president arrived on a working visit after visiting Syria.


The length of the gas pipeline, which is laid along the bottom of the Black Sea, is about 930 km. According to the presidents, this gas transportation project makes trade and economic ties between Turkey and Russia more solid.

The opening ceremony of the gas pipeline was attended by the political leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia. Gas will be delivered to these countries through the Turkish Stream.

Vladimir Putin:

This gas pipeline is becoming a symbol of interaction, cooperation for the benefit of our peoples, the peoples of Europe and the whole world.

In fact, gas supplies through the new gas pipeline began earlier. Today's ceremony is more a formality, but at the same time, its importance cannot be overestimated from both the economic and political points of view.


According to Erdogan, the import of Russian gas to Turkey is constantly growing.

Turkish President:

For 33 years, we have imported 400 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia.

Erdogan commented on the events in Iraq and Iran. According to the Turkish leader, Ankara does not want the region to turn into a territory of endless mediated wars and armed conflicts. Erdogan noted that all these wars do not benefit regional development.
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  1. Thrifty 8 January 2020 16: 59 New
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    Now it is also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO. It is also very important for Russia to dot the i so that the Turks do not scam on the lands of Syria.
    1. Sergey39 8 January 2020 17: 11 New
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      But at the same time, this flow will be another leverage against Turkey and Bulgaria. And Bulgaria here again will only be the transmission link from the United States.
      1. Nemo 8 January 2020 17: 32 New
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        Only now Turkey itself is interested in Russian gas no less, if not more, than Russia in Turkey as a buyer. Now in Turkey, industry is booming, and the population is demanding more and more gas, and no one will sell it cheaper gas in such volumes than Russia.
        1. bulvas 8 January 2020 18: 04 New
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          Erdogan needs “friendship” with Russia to keep the EU and the USA in good shape.

          Ukraine could at least behave like that, and not jump right into the bunk to the West.
          1. Lelek 8 January 2020 23: 32 New
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            Quote: bulvas
            Ukraine could even behave like that

            hi
            A ruin cannot behave differently because of its non-independence. Turkey is also not a completely independent state (NATO membership), but at least it defends its economic interests contrary to the instructions of the notorious Sam, and Ruin cannot even do this. An agreement on gas with the Russian Federation was signed, and gas transit as of 5.01.2020 fell 5 times compared with December 2019. The United States is only to help, because restricts the flow of Russian gas to Europe, and spit saliva on the economy, which is independent of them.
            1. g1v2 9 January 2020 00: 03 New
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              This is a dumb clipping. The amount of gas pumped per year is determined. Last month gas was pumped, clogging all the storages in case they don’t agree. Now everything is clogged. Winter is warm - gas consumption in Europe is not large. That’s why pumping has fallen, because everything is clogged. But at the end of the year, they pump exactly as much as is written in the contract. Estimated total pumping. Over the 20th year, 65 billion should be pumped and they will be pumped.
              1. Sergey1987 9 January 2020 10: 48 New
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                Quote: g1v2
                Winter is warm - gas consumption in Europe is not large.

                Gas consumption in Europe is only growing every year. and not great compared to whom?
                1. g1v2 9 January 2020 17: 51 New
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                  The total annual consumption in Europe is growing. However, throughout the year it is uneven. Gas goes to power plants and to heating and chemical industry. Accordingly, in winter its consumption grows. Falls in the summer. Winter is warm, storage facilities are full - less gas is consumed than during cold winters.
                  1. Sergey1987 9 January 2020 17: 57 New
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                    Quote: g1v2
                    The total annual consumption in Europe is growing. However, throughout the year it is uneven. Gas goes to power plants and to heating and chemical industry. Accordingly, in winter its consumption grows. Falls in the summer. Winter is warm, storage facilities are full - less gas is consumed than during cold winters.

                    I completely agree with you, but every year the total gas consumption by European countries is growing (for the whole year) and in summer the population’s consumption is falling, but pumping volumes are not falling, just in the summer of storage and refuel.
                    1. g1v2 10 January 2020 10: 51 New
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                      This year there was a stir. Everyone expected that on January 1 gas would not go through Ukraine, and the northern stream would not be ready. Therefore, Europe and Gazprom and Ukraine clogged storage facilities to the eyeballs. Th, therefore, the volumes are still small. But in the summer and autumn they really catch up.
            2. Victor N 9 January 2020 11: 18 New
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              With the advent of each new pipe, the value of the old transit countries decreases - the opportunity for maneuver increases.
        2. kjhg 8 January 2020 18: 07 New
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          Quote: Nemo
          besides Russia, nobody will sell cheaper gas in such volumes except Russia

          Well, what do you write nonsense since you don’t know? Explore the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline project.
          1. krot 8 January 2020 18: 11 New
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            Explore the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline project.

            Blah blah blah .. Study the project ..)) The stream has been launched, and you will continue to study the projects ..))
            But Bulgaria is eager for battle, funny ..) Bulgarians want to sit on two chairs, well, well ..)
            1. Chaldon48 8 January 2020 18: 58 New
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              Bulgaria is a country of "wise men", its leaders are constantly looking for someone stronger in order to sit in their seats more firmly and do not give a damn about everything else.
            2. Xnumx vis 8 January 2020 20: 22 New
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              Quote: krot
              But Bulgaria is eager for battle, funny ..) Bulgarians want to sit on two chairs, well, well ..)

              And I see that Russia has returned to the Balkans! Serbia, Bulgaria, Turkey ... There, as in the photograph of the Turks, it is pleasing to support V. in the elbow. AT . Putin ...! Right - "baklava-makhlava eat Darogoy !!! Neither do you want ... Shashalyk mashlyk eat !!" "Now prostrate and begin to kiss the tracks of the Darkest ..
              1. mammadov teymur 9 January 2020 07: 42 New
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                they support the old man by the elbow so that he doesn’t fall inadvertently or the little child is all for the same reason, and not what you see in your desires after a good smoke
                1. bistrov. 9 January 2020 08: 10 New
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                  Quote: mammadov teymur
                  what you see in your desires after a good smoke

                  Judging by your meaningless comment, you yourself after a "good stupid". They would sit silently, since you can’t say anything clever and didn’t show your stupidity here.
                2. Xnumx vis 9 January 2020 08: 23 New
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                  Quote: mammadov teymur
                  they support the old man by the elbow so that he doesn’t fall inadvertently or the little child is all for the same reason, and not what you see in your desires after a good smoke

                  Well, yes, the "old man" ... This "old man" will break the backbone of many young people and will not sweat ... YOU, my friend, before you shake the air with your words, learn decent manners ... I got out of the garbage and try to be rude ....
                  1. mammadov teymur 13 January 2020 13: 03 New
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                    maybe the old man is really strong since YOU represent him, besides, I didn’t know that my koment would create such a strong vibration where you live, that is, in the garbage can, therefore you judge by yourself and if I was rude, it is Ham. by the way, the old man is going to withdraw PMCs to see they found a common language, unlike us
                    1. Xnumx vis 13 January 2020 18: 03 New
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                      Quote: mammadov teymur
                      maybe the old man is really strong since YOU represent him besides I didn’t know that my koment would create such a strong vibration where you live, that is, in the garbage can

                      I don’t know who you think is an old man ... And it doesn’t bother me much .. It excites people like you and your kind ... So smart and strong old man!
          2. Brturin 8 January 2020 18: 48 New
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            Quote: kjhg
            Quote: Nemo
            besides Russia, nobody will sell cheaper gas in such volumes except Russia

            Well, what do you write nonsense since you don’t know? Explore the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline project.

            “Who knows, maybe our gas will at some stage join the TANAP project, I wouldn’t rule out this,” Russian Ambassador to Azerbaijan Mikhail Bocharnikov. And why would the Georgians decide to resume the purchase of Russian gas this year (they bought a little 160 million cubic meters, 5%), before that, Minister of Economy Georgy Kobulia talked about the inadmissibility of Azerbaijan’s monopoly
          3. Astronaut 8 January 2020 21: 49 New
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            So, in order not to write nonsense, look at the amount of gas that Azerbaijan can supply via the South Gas Company with no more than 10 billion m3, while Russia supplies more than 30 billion m3. Moreover, the reserves of the base Azerbaijan’s Shah Deniz 2 turned out to be less than planned.
            1. kjhg 8 January 2020 21: 59 New
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              Is it for today? I wrote about the project as a whole. In the near future, we are planning to connect Turkmenistan to this gas pipeline, which has got gas. Then, plans are to build additional gas compressor stations.
              And what is the argument about? The man wrote that Turkey has nowhere else to take cheap gas. I replied that there is where to get it. All! It is clear that they will not abandon one gas pipeline for the sake of another. They simply have leverage to lower the cost of gas for themselves and make a profit through transit. There are no fools in the world. Well, perhaps our brothers are unreasonable.
              1. Astronaut 8 January 2020 22: 21 New
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                Turkmenistan’s gas pipeline

                Did you read this on the Internet?
                Turkmenistan has more than 3000 idle wells that there is no one to repair. The new fields of Turkmenistan (Galkynysh) are located at great depths of more than 4000 m. In 18, 34 billion cubic meters were sent to China, of which 15 billion under PSA, and the rest for Chinese credit. Turkmengaz has about 30 billion “own” gas. Moreover, they are preparing to launch TAPI in India with a capacity of 33 billion m3, so there are not so many free volumes for SGC (or NABUKO as it was called before). So Turkey doesn’t really have too much choice
              2. Abbot 9 January 2020 04: 39 New
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                Quote: kjhg
                In the near future, we are planning to connect Turkmenistan to this gas pipeline, which has got gas.

                It remains only to persuade Iran and Russia to build a trans-Caspian gas pipeline. A trifle, yeah. In general, so far these are only dreams and endless blah blah.
            2. Rostovchanin 9 January 2020 00: 54 New
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              I want to clarify ... Russkaya CS was designed to pump 63 billion cubic meters. Gas, but they built only half, although they brought power to these volumes. Now there are 7 gas processing units, but 14 foundations were prepared. At the end of 2014, when UP closed, this very first phase was completed. I put my hands there too, it’s nice that you have something to do with this event. repeat
        3. Ingvar 72 8 January 2020 20: 56 New
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          Quote: Nemo
          Only now Turkey itself is interested in Russian gas no less, if not more, than Russia in Turkey as a buyer.

          There is gas in Iran, and this is closer. Transport costs are lower. The problem is that there is restless. Or maybe that's why it’s restless?
          1. Victor N 9 January 2020 11: 27 New
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            To provide the northern territories, Iran received gas from Turkmenistan. Pumping gas from South Pars to Turkey is a big problem.
        4. SSR
          SSR 8 January 2020 21: 39 New
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          Quote: Nemo
          Only now Turkey itself is interested in Russian gas no less, if not more, than Russia in Turkey as a buyer.

          Yes, it benefits everyone. Hence, there are so many Internet fighters with the slogan about "tomatoes."
      2. dzvero 8 January 2020 17: 33 New
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        Hardly. At the moment, the "configuration" of transit is quite stable. Opportunities for "leverage" in relation to Russia will be only among the Turks. At one time, a drama with UP broke out due to the desire of one American politician to skim the cream from Ukrainian transit. Now everything seems to be more or less settled down, plus the joint venture and TP practically reduced the role of the Ukrainian gas transportation system to zero. By the way, the attempt to overthrow Erdogan in time also fits into the picture of the opposition of UP / TP.
        ps minus is not mine, even vice versa
        1. Nomad Plus 8 January 2020 17: 53 New
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          Turks are very greedy for money
          1. Zoomlion 8 January 2020 18: 15 New
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            And who is not greedy now? Who works for the idea? There are none. And don’t even look
        2. Lelek 8 January 2020 23: 38 New
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          Now everything seems to be more or less settled down, plus the joint venture and TP practically reduced the role of the Ukrainian gas transportation system to zero.

          hi
          You still forget to mention the SP-3 on the way and the “japs” with the Koreans are in line.
          1. dzvero 9 January 2020 00: 13 New
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            About SP-3 somehow passed by; but it sounds logical.
            But in general, if Gazprom connects pipes in the east and west of Russia into a common network, then the leverage from transit will go to them smile
          2. Brturin 9 January 2020 00: 37 New
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            You still forget to mention SP-3 on the way

            Streams, streams .... Now gas has fallen in price, everyone has a drop in revenue, and here are capital projects. It is necessary to complete the Amur Gas Processing Plant, contracts have been signed for the construction of the Baltic Chemical Complex, and there is also an LNG plant for 13 million tons (about 17,5 billion cubic meters). Novatek is also expanding LNG, the Australians with their new Prelude and Ichthys, Qatar is about to build up, the states ... China, battling with the states, has introduced duties on their LNG until the situation in Asia settles down - the gene. Patrick Puyanne Europe, Director of French Total, “is not a natural market for American LNG. It is located in China. And we, as the largest investor in liquefied natural gas from the United States, did not invest in LNG going to Europe. ”
      3. Flooding 8 January 2020 17: 37 New
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        But at the same time, this flow will be another leverage against Turkey and Bulgaria. And Bulgaria here again will only be the transmission link from the United States.

        Any lever is a double-edged sword. It is important who has more shoulder and weight.
        1. Sergey39 8 January 2020 17: 42 New
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          That is what I had in mind. I have written "at the same time"
          1. Flooding 8 January 2020 17: 44 New
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            Quote: Sergey39
            That is what I had in mind. I have written "at the same time"

            It’s great that we understood each other. I didn’t put you cons))
      4. private person 8 January 2020 17: 45 New
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        Bulgaria rejoiced most of all, as in the song this joy with tears in his eyes. And happiness was so close.
      5. Alekseev 8 January 2020 17: 46 New
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        Quote: Sergey39
        at the same time, this flow will be another leverage for pressure on Russia from Turkey and Bulgaria

        If you talk like that, then you do not need to build gas pipelines. Uncle Sam will say: it’s impossible, they say, to buy gas in Russia, otherwise sanctions and the matter are in the American hat.
        But it’s one thing to give such instructions to your vassals when there is no pipe, and it’s quite another when the inexpensive Russian gas that is needed for the population and industry is really easy to supply.
        To demand to refuse in this case is equivalent to a robbery. States often rob, but there is a chapel to everything.
        They can date their LNG, which they are currently doing; they are selling it to especially dedicated people below cost. But it cannot go on like this for a long time, because it means getting into one’s pocket already. And now, Russian LNG, not to mention pipe gas, is more profitable for consumers overseas.
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        1. major147 8 January 2020 19: 51 New
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          And in my opinion, Bulgaria is just waiting for what shit. It is necessary to fasten the screw immediately and be bombarded with “Calbras” along Golden Sands. And yet - to impose sanctions on them for the fact that they have always fought against Russia.

          Bulgarian even in the comments shit ....
          1. Mac Simka 8 January 2020 20: 18 New
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            Yes, you can not please. And so, and always are dissatisfied ....
            1. major147 8 January 2020 21: 40 New
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              Quote: Mac Simka
              Yes, you can not please. And so, and always are dissatisfied ....

              "Will you, Stirlitz ...." drinks
              1. Mac Simka 8 January 2020 22: 38 New
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                That's better already ... drinks
                1. major147 9 January 2020 11: 14 New
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                  Quote: Mac Simka
                  That's better already ... drinks

                  good
      7. major147 8 January 2020 19: 47 New
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        Quote: Sergey39
        this flow will be another leverage on Russia

        Well, the faucet can be blocked on Russian flows in Turechina, you can block if that ....
      8. Nyrobsky 8 January 2020 21: 02 New
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        Quote: Sergey39
        But at the same time, this flow will be another leverage against Turkey and Bulgaria.

        With the same success, this flow can be regarded as a lever of pressure on the same Turkey and Bulgaria from Russia. Turks and Bulgarians are interested in receiving both gas and Babos for pumping it. In the absence of gas in the pipe, they will not receive either one or the other. I don’t think they are more stupid than Ukraine, which as a monopoly of the transit pipe, in fact, gave rise to the emergence of alternative routes for gas transit bypassing its territory and made it into a five-year contract with a decrease in pumping volumes.
    2. RUSS 8 January 2020 17: 32 New
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      Now it is also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO. It is also very important for Russia to dot the i so that the Turks do not scam on the lands of Syria.

      We returned the Crimea, which was previously part of the Russian Empire and the USSR, Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be our Turkish territory.
      1. the finish 8 January 2020 17: 38 New
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        That's right, part of the empire. But the peoples are different.
        1. RUSS 8 January 2020 17: 46 New
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          Quote: finish
          That's right, part of the empire. But the peoples are different.

          Turkey claims to the north of Syria, where Turkomans live compactly; this is not the essence of the same Turks.
      2. Flooding 8 January 2020 17: 40 New
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        Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be their Turkish territory.

        Syria has not belonged to the Turks for 100 years. It is time for them to get used to this idea.
        1. RUSS 8 January 2020 17: 47 New
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          Quote: RUSS
          Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be their Turkish territory.

          Syria has not belonged to the Turks for 100 years. It is time for them to get used to this idea.

          We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria
          1. Grandfather 8 January 2020 17: 54 New
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            Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream
            class! I jump with the sofa! finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall along with the retirement age! and in the “magneto-pyaterochka” price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!
            1. Major Yurik 8 January 2020 18: 09 New
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              Quote: Dead Day
              Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream
              class! I jump with the sofa! finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall along with the retirement age! and in the “magneto-pyaterochka” price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

              Who is what, and who is to be in the front row! yes
              The old guard in the museum: - Here you are, you bastards, people have nothing to eat, but they paint oil paintings! request
            2. Flooding 8 January 2020 18: 12 New
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              Quote: Dead Day
              class! I jump with the sofa! finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall along with the retirement age! and in the “magneto-pyaterochka” price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

              To you in Benelux.
            3. Stils 8 January 2020 19: 30 New
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              Quote: Dead Day
              Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream
              class! I jump with the sofa! finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall along with the retirement age! and in the “magneto-pyaterochka” price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

              You plus ... little joy from this news, or rather quite a bit. Money naturally past ordinary, ordinary people. Millers and other newcomers will continue to row loot with a shovel and put them somewhere in a quiet, safe place.
              1. major147 8 January 2020 19: 54 New
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                Quote: Stils
                You plus ... little joy from this news, or rather quite a bit. Money naturally past ordinary, ordinary people. Millers and other newcomers will continue to row loot with a shovel and put them somewhere in a quiet, safe place.

                IASO checked in at the box office! fool
                1. Stils 8 January 2020 21: 21 New
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                  Quote: major147
                  Quote: Stils
                  You plus ... little joy from this news, or rather quite a bit. Money naturally past ordinary, ordinary people. Millers and other newcomers will continue to row loot with a shovel and put them somewhere in a quiet, safe place.

                  IASO checked in at the box office! fool

                  Wrong answer. What is this pipe to you, is it yours? Maybe you are a shareholder of Gazprom? I don’t understand people who are really happy about this news and have absolutely nothing to do with the pipe. Maybe retirement age will be reduced, VAT will be lowered, fees will decrease ?? They robbed them and continue to rob them further !!
                  It’s very naive to believe that the current authorities are making these pipes for the population, to protect their power, YES! And boobs think for them
                  1. major147 8 January 2020 21: 42 New
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                    Quote: Stils
                    What is this pipe to you, is it yours?

                    negative
                    1. Stils 8 January 2020 21: 50 New
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                      Alexey Borisovich, you ??bully
                      Quote: major147
                      Quote: Stils
                      What is this pipe to you, is it yours?

                      negative
                  2. AlexG83 9 January 2020 05: 35 New
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                    Quote: Stils
                    Wrong answer. What is this pipe to you, is it yours? Maybe you are a shareholder of Gazprom? I don’t understand people who are really happy about this news and have absolutely nothing to do with the pipe. Maybe retirement age will be reduced, VAT will be lowered, fees will decrease ?? They robbed them and continue to rob them further !!
                    It’s very naive to believe that the current authorities are making these pipes for the population, to protect their power, YES! And boobs think for them

                    Are you definitely not from any country? They usually write about the same blizzard, clumsy, stereotyped, with the expectation of naive idiots who are not able to understand where the resources for infrastructure projects, the defense industry and so on come from. You can rub that, “cosmodromes", "Crimean bridges", Olympic facilities, the infrastructure for the World Cup, the shipyard in the Far East, which is now under construction, and a giant crane for it, simply mysteriously materialize from the air, and have no meaning for " common people (as usual, some people like to express themselves). " Foreign equipment for enterprises, from the fact that Russia is not yet able to produce itself, also materializes from the air. And for the Americans from these gas pipelines, they simply knock it down in their pants for nothing.
                    No matter how magically it turned out that even those profits that were in the pockets of the Millers were subject to severe restrictions (in terms of how they could be managed) and did not disappear from the Russian economy, because Yeltsin was not in the yard now.
                    1. major147 9 January 2020 11: 14 New
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                      Are you definitely not from any country?

                      You are in front of the regular troll "mosque beads." Wasted time and font.
                      1. Stils 9 January 2020 20: 55 New
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                        Quote: major147
                        Quote: AlexG83
                        Are you definitely not from any country?

                        You are in front of the regular troll "mosque beads." Wasted time and font.

                        Which of us is a troll is another question, or rather already. There are not so many putenoids here by the way, honest people are able to figure out who is who, and how cleverly gets into his pocket, broadcasting regular promises, so we are on the opposite side of the barricades, Mr. Major. I have the honor!
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                        Quote: Stils
                        I have the honor!

                        This is hardly ....
                  3. georggy 9 January 2020 11: 28 New
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                    Yes, in the yard now is not Yeltsin, but his receiver.
                    Think yourself what a blizzard you're carrying.
        2. Flooding 8 January 2020 17: 57 New
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          We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

          Are you from the USSR? For Soviet people, Crimea was its own in the Union.
          So to speak in this vein can only be about a quarter century.
        3. Sergey S. 8 January 2020 18: 58 New
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          We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

          1. We didn’t get used to Crimea from 1991 to 2014, that is, for a period of 23 years. But this is not the period that should have been considered as a period of rejection .... there were still years of real friendship, general parades, joint projects, the absence of a border ...
          2. The term does not play a special role in the issue of the Crimea. These people and this territory are historically special. They always concentrated on the idea of ​​an original empire, to some extent even, we can say, isolated, whether in the days of the Greeks, Romans, Goths and Scythians, even the Mongols degenerated here into the Crimean Tatars ... And only during the Khazar rule, Crimea was the periphery ... So to be the province of Ukraine, which itself sought to the periphery of the European Union, the Crimeans could not agree. To become the center of the Russian world is what really matches the inner state, and what they deserve.
          3. Turkey and Syria have a completely different history of relations. I am not an Arabist, and with pleasure I would listen to an orientalist specialist on this subject.
          But to identify the Ottoman Empire with today's Turkey is not correct. Unlike Russia, the Ottoman Empire did not become the melting pot of a single nation. And the Turks in the Ottoman Empire did not constitute the majority, and even relatively small numbers of Bulgarians and Greeks were not able to assimilate completely, although they really dominated at least three centuries, almost 400 years. For this reason, even today's Turkey has historical prospects to fall apart ... for example, the Armenians will regain demographic control over Greater Armenia ... Asian Minor Greeks will openly remember their ancient history, there are even meager chances that under the influence of European culture the Albanians will degenerate into the heirs of Odyssey ...
          And then a cop will come to Turkey Erdogan ... By the way, I am not against this scenario, because the pragmatism and bragging of the Turks are known, and the Ottoman Empire did not leave a real positive civilizational effect. The military dictatorship-democracy is not inclined to creative creativity. And this is without negative emotions towards the Turks. how to people. They simply have the experience of statehood as they are.
          4. In relation to Syria, one must be more modest in assessing events and successes ... Any ancient civilization has experience in surviving in the most difficult conditions. Ancient nations know the value of friendship and meanness. They have a drawer, are able to wait and realize the opportunities that open up.
          I really hope that in the future, Syria will be all right, especially since these ancient biblical lands are surrounded mainly by Arabs ...
          1. RUSS 8 January 2020 19: 15 New
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            . Turkey and Syria have a completely different relationship history

            Well, of course this is so, according to the same logic, the Americans argue about Kosovo that this is a completely different story, but Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia are illegal and not right.
            Quote: Sergey S.
            And the Turks in the Ottoman Empire did not constitute the majority, and even relatively small numbers of Bulgarians and Greeks were not able to assimilate completely, although they really dominated at least three centuries, almost 400 years.

            So we could not assimilate the Caucasus and Central Asia
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              ... according to the same logic, Americans argue about Kosovo that this is a completely different story, but Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia are illegal and not right

              Americans on the drum and Kosovo, and Abkhazia. They are only interested in real and political dividends.
              By the way, primitive individuals usually agree with this.
              But the long-term policy of the Americans is futile.
              Years will pass, maybe decades or centuries, and Americans will receive for everything, everywhere and in full. They will remember everything, and especially those who today are forced to kiss their hands and other parts of the body ....
              1. RUSS 8 January 2020 19: 48 New
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                Quote: Sergey S.
                Years will pass, maybe decades or centuries, and Americans will receive for everything, everywhere and to the fullest

                For what are we suffering? What are we rewarded for?
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            2. Sergey S. 8 January 2020 19: 48 New
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              So we could not assimilate the Caucasus and Central Asia

              Must be surprised.
              We did not even assimilate the Sami and Chukchi ...
              Not only that, they helped with the alphabet, national teacher cadres, national cadres, provided autonomy ....
              Here is such an assimilation in Russian.
              By the way, in the Caucasus, many understand this.
              This is me about Ossetians, peoples and peoples of Dagestan, and even about so many Chechens ...
            3. lopvlad 9 January 2020 02: 21 New
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              we could not assimilate the Caucasus and Central Asia


              The Russian state in its history has never tried to assimilate any of the people included in its composition. At the heart of the state there has always been and will be a union of different nations and peoples for the sake of a better existence and joint protection against more powerful enemies.
              No melting pots where different peoples tried to “comb under one comb” and from single peoples one mono-people or unitary state in Russia have never been undertaken.
          2. voyaka uh 8 January 2020 23: 09 New
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            "a real positive civilizational effect
            The Ottoman Empire did not leave behind "////
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            The metropolis remained from the Empire - Turkey itself.
            Developed industrial country.
            From the Ottoman Empire remained throughout the Middle East
            legislative framework. For example, in Israel still
            measure land in dunams, despite the metric system.
            And the foundations of land legislation remained Turkish.
            1. Dmitry Bolotsky 9 January 2020 01: 30 New
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              Alexey, I completely agree! From any empire - imperial, let it stay! (My phrase). But seriously, Roman law has not yet been replaced by anyone, as is the fact that Marx’s Capital is being studied more closely today than a hundred years ago. It is a pity that the phrase "we will tear the old world to the ground ..." was replaced by "we will destroy the old world to the ground ..." We learned to break and fault, to perfection, but we forgot how to build and build. And so in everything, and so everywhere, and so on ...
          3. Yeraz 9 January 2020 00: 09 New
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            Quote: Sergey S.
            Turkey and Syria have a completely different history of relations. I am not an Arabist, and with pleasure I would listen to an orientalist specialist on this subject.

            Don’t argue. To begin with, study the role of ALEPPO for the Turks and the influence and composition of the population in Aleppo over a long historical period.
            And the Ottoman Empire is Turkey.
            Quote: Sergey S.
            for example, Armenians will regain demographic control over Greater Armenia ...

            ahahahha))) the Armenians in Armenia itself would have to deal with demographics, and then think about the lands where the Kurds now live and oh, how good it is with demographics.
          4. Dmitry Bolotsky 9 January 2020 01: 06 New
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            Calm, sustained, deliberate. Plus! And, most importantly - your own, that is, your opinion. Thank! It is a pity that there is so little on the forum of just such respectful communication. Regarding your position on points, not being an Arabist in general, and a historian in particular, I will allow myself to express or indicate the position of an ordinary reasonable 57-year-old, indigenous, in the 4th generation Muscovite.
            1st and 2nd points. And with the Crimeans, the indigenous Crimeans, who have lived with families for more than 100-150 years on this earth, did you, Sergey, communicate? I talked. They are not interested in the peculiarity of the territory, originality or isolation. They just want to live, give birth, bring up, create, and are ready to protect their home as they can, as they can. They have been living with Russia for a long time, they can and know how to serve the good, but they will not allow themselves to be torn off like a sticky person. Crimeans will support me, I know. And, you are right, nationality has nothing to do with it. It’s just that you don’t have to bother people living, living by the rules. The rules should be equal for everyone. And these rules should be forever. And those who violate these rules must be beaten hand, head, brain, depending on the size of the deviation from the rules. And religion has nothing to do with it either. Warehouse of life, customs and rules of conduct. Rules of conduct on this earth (Crimean, Tatar, Moscow, Rostov - any other). And the guest, if he decides to visit or settle on this earth, must abide by the rules of this land. If it does not comply, then - or or the enemy. Everything is simple. Simple - respect for those who live on this earth, give birth, create, love. It simply cannot be otherwise.
            3. More than once rested in Turkey. He left the hotel, talked with the locals, argued about religion, culture, history. And, you know, the indigenous Turks do not care deeply about the Ottoman traditions, claims and national pride associated with this. But any Turk will climb on knives for his family, his family, for the honor of his family. And it is worthy of respect. To the Orthodox in Turkey, and you know that, full respect, the temples operate and flourish. Nationalism is absent as such. What will be destroyed there, I do not know, the Turks are by no means lazy, as some are trying to provide. Today, the Turks are the best tailors on this planet. I am pleased to wear clothes made in Turkey. Medicines produced in this country are not fake and always of excellent quality. Perfumes, food are also on top. I will not speak about tourism, from which I started. All of Europe sits there year-round.
            4. I completely agree.
            P / S Even the Mongols degenerated here in the Crimean Tatars ... Class. Thanks again. hi
          5. Altai72 9 January 2020 08: 13 New
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            They wrote almost an essay))) You don’t have a drop of knowledge on this topic, either deliberately mislead people, or just want to expose someone as an outcast, and someone as a creator. I am not a supporter of neo-Ottomanism, but you are trying to distort the history of Turkey here deliberately distorting everything. Radical nationalism and incitement are clearly visible in your writings.
            [/ quote] Unlike Russia, the Ottoman Empire did not become the melting pot of a single nation.

            What are you talking about?)) Are you aware that you contradict yourself?
            Turkey and Syria have a completely different history of relations. I am not an Arabist, and with pleasure I would listen to an orientalist specialist on this subject.

            Turks and Arabs are the same as Russians and Zimbabweans.
            Turkey has historical prospects to fall apart ...

            The collapse of the Empires is mutual and it was once.
            Armenians will regain demographic control over Greater Armenia ... Asia Minor Greeks will openly recall their ancient history, there are even scant chances that under the influence of European culture the Albanians will degenerate into the heirs of Odysseus ...

            When??? laughing all THIS enumerated by you so far is only decreasing, not increasing. And show us here at least one document about your "great Armenia", or your neighbor the Armenian said about it. Are you here PR or something?
            And then Turkey will come to Erdogan kopets ... By the way, I am not against this scenario, because the pragmatism and bragging of the Turks are known, and the Ottoman Empire did not leave a real positive civilizational effect. [Quote]

            I will not answer this, it will take a lot of time, but soon everything will show itself. I hope we all will be destined to see this life.
          6. Karen 9 January 2020 11: 40 New
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            Dear, today's Turkish nationalists emphasize that without genocide a hundred years ago, Greeks and Armenians - Turkey would not have become so monolithic (let us leave the Kurdish issue for now)
        4. Ingvar 72 8 January 2020 21: 02 New
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          We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

          We got used to Finland, as did the Baltic states. request
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            Like the Turks got used to the fact that Crimea is no longer theirs.
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              that Crimea is no longer theirs.

              So he was not theirs. There for three hundred years their vassals taxied, no more. request
    3. Warrior05 8 January 2020 18: 22 New
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      Strange logic ... recall where were Poland, Georgia and other Caucasian states, the Baltic states, the same Finland and Central Asia under the Russian Empire? And, what, does Russia require all this to be attached back? I will not even remember the British Empire and Constantinople ...
      Crimea was an autonomous territorial formation within Ukraine, and as a result of a coup in Kiev and a referendum by the will of the people, it became part of Russia! I can not say anything about the referendum in northern Syria and the autonomy of these territories ....
      Not correct compared!
    4. Petrix 8 January 2020 18: 55 New
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      and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be their Turkish territory.

      What date does the history of mankind begin "fair"? Before the Ottoman Empire, the story was, and before, and before .....
      1. RUSS 8 January 2020 19: 15 New
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        From what date in the history of mankind begins "fairly"? Before the Ottoman Empire, history was, and before, and before .....

        What are you talking about?
        1. Petrix 8 January 2020 19: 39 New
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          What are you talking about?

          The word "fair" does not fit somehow. And the rest I agree. Although, if you look from the point of view of the Turk, it is fair, but from the point of view of the Syrian it is unfair.
    5. Sergej1972 9 January 2020 00: 00 New
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      Turks do not consider Syria as their territory. Ataturk also stated that Arabs and Turks need to live in separate states, but at the same time be on friendly terms. The maximum that the Turks can make claims regarding the territories inhabited by the Turks or related Turkic-speaking, non-Arab peoples.
      You compare the population of Turkey and the Arab states that were once part of it. Egypt now has 100 million people, with 82 million in Turkey. And if you add the population of Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia to the population of Egypt?
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      Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire

      The main purpose of Russia, in this world, is to end the existence of empires. ;-)
  2. Piramidon 8 January 2020 17: 51 New
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    Now it’s also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO

    And what does "TP" have to do with it? request Gas supplies are not associated with this in any way. Calculate how many NATO members import Russian gas.
  3. Finches 8 January 2020 20: 21 New
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    There are no complaints about the foreign policy of GDP - beautiful! Supreme - give me under ... your Petersburg friends in domestic politics! Well, by God, boots! The people are asking not to shoot (although they will not be against), but dismiss Medvedev and Co. Mediocrity on the corrupt and mediocrity drives! They started the flow, power to China, the joint venture somehow gets to the point ... But the Russian people only had emotions - like a man in the video: "Like the Christmas tree!"
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    Now it is also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO.

    What are you smoking gentlemen / citizens? But what difference does it make to what substance will Serbia enter today ?? fool
  • anjey 8 January 2020 17: 03 New
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    Erdogan noted that all these wars do not benefit regional development.
    Someone in the region sometimes thinks differently, not excluding the applicant himself laughing
    The conflict between the USA and Iran, like a litmus test, will show who is worth what and whether BV will be able to get rid of the real invaders from the USA.
    1. Thrifty 8 January 2020 17: 05 New
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      If he is so smart, why did he send his military to Libya? And then in fact, between words and deeds, Erdogad has a huge difference!
      1. anjey 8 January 2020 17: 13 New
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        Maybe he saw in the new coalition strategy more benefits for Turkey, and this is better than laying the political and economic balance in one, having lost confidence in the Western partners ???
        And in Libya, you can also agree favorably on mutually beneficial shares in the future. laughing
        1. Thrifty 8 January 2020 17: 23 New
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          Erdogad first of all seeks nishtyaki personally for himself, and puts the country's profit in second place! You can only believe this if you have nothing to do with it!
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        If he is so smart, why did he send his military to Libya? And then in fact, between words and deeds, Erdogad has a huge difference!

        Erdogan sends his troops to Libya at the request of the Libyan government, as earlier we sent troops to Syria at the request of Assad
        1. Gray brother 8 January 2020 18: 03 New
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          Erdogan sends his troops to Libya at the request of the Libyan government,

          There are two governments, both of which consider each other as illegal armed groups)))
          It’s just that Turkey and the PNS have signed an agreement on military and naval cooperation and now they are sharing the shelf cutting Israel off with its gas pipeline project from Europe, and all the rest at the same time who hangs out there.
          If Saraju is stuffed with a mouthful of cucumbers and chased from Libya to the neck, then all this wonderful undertaking will go to dust.
          Therefore, the Turks are harnessing for him.
          1. RUSS 8 January 2020 18: 21 New
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            There are two governments

            There is one government that the UN recognizes, the second "government" is the rebellious general
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              There is one government that the UN recognizes, the second "government" is the rebellious general

              Yes, no one cares who the UN recognizes there - whoever wins, that and slippers.
              The Sultan had to negotiate with both so that he did not put all the eggs in one basket and the soldiers did not spend there.
            2. Kleber 8 January 2020 22: 34 New
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              This rebellious general is recognized by Russia. Is this not enough for you?
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                This rebellious general is recognized by Russia. Is this not enough for you?

                Of course not enough)))))) one more potential dictator to support
  • Thunderbolt 8 January 2020 17: 08 New
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    What an impressive vest Erdogan has. Or was he wearing a bronic over a shirt?
    1. Thrifty 8 January 2020 17: 25 New
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      Alesha hi is a yolk, for the bronick is painfully short, the throat is generally open! winked
  • pytar 8 January 2020 17: 28 New
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    November 08.01.2020, XNUMX At a meeting with Vladimir Putin, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov spoke about the construction of the Balkan Stream along Bulgarian territory. A gas pipeline with a total length of 474 km and a pipe diameter of 1220 mm will pass through the territory of 34 municipalities in 11 regions of Bulgaria. To date, the gas pipeline is being built in 4 regions - Pleven, Lovech, Vratsevskaya and Montana.
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    November 08.01.2020, XNUMX The Bulgarian government has decided to purchase 20% of the capital of the project company Gaztrade, which is building a terminal for liquefied gas near Alexandroupolis in Greece, by Bulgartransgaz. Bulgarian participation is fully consistent with the updated energy strategy and is a significant step in the implementation of the Balkan gas hub, based on the approval of a transparent, liquid and reliable natural gas market, the reasons for the decision are noted. Bulgaria reserves for the period from 3 to 5 years the acquisition of up to 500 million m300. liquefied gas, but not less than XNUMX million mXNUMX. in year.
  • EDWARD 8 January 2020 17: 34 New
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    it would be very nice to bring Russia closer to itself and Turkey and Iran in the BV. Syria is already with us. and then the amers will be very crowded and uncomfortable in BV
    1. RUSS 8 January 2020 18: 54 New
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      it would be very nice to bring Russia closer to itself and Turkey and Iran in the BV. Syria is already with us. and then the amers will be very crowded and uncomfortable in BV

      Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites
      1. Terenin 8 January 2020 20: 01 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: EDWARD
        it would be very nice to bring Russia closer to itself and Turkey and Iran in the BV. Syria is already with us. and then the amers will be very crowded and uncomfortable in BV

        Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

        So, especially the wishes of Edward have a long-term meaning and perspective. yes
      2. Kleber 8 January 2020 22: 37 New
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        Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites


        Turkey is Orthodox, and Russia is Giara. However, this does not prevent to negotiate and work together.
        1. rich 9 January 2020 02: 17 New
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          Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

          Not quite so. 20% of Muslims in Turkey are Shiite-Alevites. Nevertheless, the Muslim movements of Turkey coexist perfectly with each other. Turkey is a secular Islamic country. Turkey is the first Muslim country to officially ban women wearing hijabs
        2. RUSS 9 January 2020 17: 48 New
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          Quote: RUSS
          Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites


          Turkey is Orthodox, and Russia is Giara. However, this does not prevent to negotiate and work together.

          This is true, Russia’s largest trade turnover with NATO countries
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        and Iran is Shiites


        Iran is primarily the Persians.
  • sagitch 8 January 2020 17: 46 New
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    For Americans, the shah from Russia.
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      For Americans, the shah from Russia.

      Are you a joker laughing
    2. rich 9 January 2020 04: 22 New
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      For Americans, the shah from Russia.

      Who will appoint the Shah? repeat Your suggestions
  • demo 8 January 2020 17: 53 New
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    The photo is symbolic.
    The head of Turkey stands with the heads of Russia, Serbia and Bulgaria.
    Those. the country that secured the independence of Bulgaria and Serbia and tore them away from Turkey, took and combined them into a single energy project.
    All the same, trading is better than fighting.
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    1. tihonmarine 8 January 2020 18: 39 New
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      He.He Erdogan is the most important Serbov sorry, but the rest of the "partners" in the person of Mr. Boyko Borisov nafig.

      But is it not time to begin to coexist peacefully, and not to hang up labels. You can always do everything peacefully, you can always agree.
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    Old Man 2 got laughing
  • 75 Sergey 8 January 2020 18: 40 New
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    Komuto dough will roll on a few more yachts and remain
  • Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2020 18: 43 New
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    He.He Erdogan is the most important Serbov sorry, but the rest of the "partners" in the person of Mr. Boyko Borisov nafig.

    But is it not time to begin to coexist peacefully, and not to hang up labels. You can always do everything peacefully, you can always agree.

    142 years ago, on December 23, 1877, or on January 4, 1878, Russian troops inflicted the strongest insult on the Bulgarian people, expelling the civilized and enlightened Turkish troops from Sofia and literally foraging kickback Bulgarians on their hateful independence.

    This insult was so great that during the whole subsequent history Bulgaria fought exclusively against Russia in all world wars, and in the intervals between them, it zealously and very inventively shook its head, while not forgetting to yell about “eternal fraternal friendship” and permanently begging for gilding a pen .

    No less “insult” to the Bulgarians was inflicted after the Great Patriotic War, when, having forgotten about the devastated cities and villages of the Non-Chernozem Territory, the USSR rushed to rebuild the generally absent economy of the “little brothers”.

    As a result, the total Bulgarian Gross National Product (GNP) for 40 post-war years has grown by more than 14 times, per capita - almost 30 times. In the period from 1946 to 1986, about 80% of industrial capacities were created in Bulgaria, more than a third of agricultural capacities, up to 90% of energy, 70% of the transport network, 80% of port infrastructure, more than 80% of the total area of ​​housing, healthcare, education, and science and culture.

    For 8,9 million people (in 1986) there were 27 universities, 185 state museums, 10,4 thousand public libraries, 55 theaters, etc. All this was done at the expense of exclusively material, technical and financial assistance from the USSR , due to Soviet personnel. And for free! In terms of modern prices, the USSR invested hundreds of billions of dollars in Bulgaria! It is also necessary to take into account compensation for the supply of Bulgarian goods to the Union: with the low cost of Bulgarian products, Moscow paid Sofia at rates close to world ones. For Bulgaria, prices for supplied Soviet goods were underestimated.

    Naturally, it was impossible to endure such humiliation, and the insulted national self-consciousness of the "little brothers" found its beneficial outlet in cave Russophobia, which the Bulgarians preach continuously after being liberated from the Soviet Bgggg .. ha laughing
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      Or maybe it was necessary to count Ignatiev, very respected by the Bulgarians, to proclaim Prince of Bulgaria? Who knows, maybe history would have developed differently then.
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  • Adimius38 8 January 2020 18: 48 New
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    this gas is not cold for Russians, it’s not hot ..... yes, and get ready for more expensive utilities and gas prices laughing
    1. evgen1221 8 January 2020 19: 37 New
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      Well, the bicycle tax in September will be launched, the next step is the consideration of muzzles with counters of exhaled CO2 for every dear Russian.
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        I would also introduce a fine for the removal of a catalytic converter - otherwise people like to do this topic in Russia.
        1. lopvlad 9 January 2020 02: 49 New
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          I would also introduce a fine for removing the catalytic converter


          and I introduced a ban on the construction of buildings above the 5th floor, or else they will build the city-anthill-gadyushniki and then you are surprised that something is wrong with the environment. And you wanted to spoil thousands of square meters of land for thousands and to keep these meters always clean and fragrant?
      2. lopvlad 9 January 2020 02: 38 New
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        Well, the tax on bicycles in September will be launched


        Well, firstly, not in September, but from January 1, 2020, it is already in effect, and not the tax but the recycling fee that was included in the price of the bicycle (10%) is taken once for the purchase of the bicycle. In fact, the cost of a new bicycle increased by at least 10%.
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          What is tax. Well, who, when and where will the bike be pulled into metal reception? There are only separate battery trash in each yard for batteries and plastic, I have not seen. Yes, at best, at the fence in the village of grandfather. It turns out that they just introduced another air tax.
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            On batteries and plastic


            there is the same recycling fee and, like bicycles, it is included in the price of the battery. But for some reason no one is indignant and does not call it a tax.
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              Yes, we have a lot of things that are not outraged by ignorance
  • Sergey S. 8 January 2020 19: 20 New
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    laughing He.He Erdogan is the most important Serbov sorry, but the rest of the "partners" in the person of Mr. Boyko Borisov nafig. Well, at least Erdogan’s profit, to the Serbs for a good attitude, but to this Mr. Mr. for his ........ what language is it? belay

    Except He.He makes no sense.
    If the term “pity” is understood in the Old Russian sense - “I love,” the meaning partially appears.
    Further...
    It seems to be missing something in the last sentence, for example, the preposition "c" and you need to work with commas.
    Then we get another reflection:
    Well, with Erdogan, at least the Serbs profit for a good attitude ...

    As for "this Mr. ...", he is in a status that does not imply impunity for personal insults, without affecting the feelings of the people of Bulgaria. But this is certainly not in the interests of Russia and the Russians, or simply Russian people.
    I myself am not enthusiastic about the policy of Bulgaria in the period after gaining independence, that is, during the whole period of its statehood. But given that we, Russians, have for centuries declared aid to the Slavs and the Orthodox, declared that Moscow is the "Third Rome", there is no sense in abandoning this policy. She has already brought a positive result.
    An example - twice Bulgaria in the world wars was a coalition of our enemies, but really the Bulgarians did not fight with Russia or the Soviet Union. I am sure that in the future they will not fight with us, unlike countless real enemies ...
    No need to petty revenge on the Bulgarians for their inability to confront the West in anti-Russian politics ...
    It will resolve itself.
  • evgen1221 8 January 2020 19: 34 New
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    The launch of the Turkish stream will cause a rapid growth of industry in Turkey and Bulgaria .... Damn, can we not stand on the side of the pipe? We all have gas, they have a decline in us. Maybe if someone extends a pipe to us, we will see a rapid growth of industry?
    1. Oquzyurd 9 January 2020 12: 49 New
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      "Damn, can we not stand on the side of the pipe?" It is contraindicated for lazy people who spend half a year on holidays and with the consequences of the same holidays. It is impossible to be the host of the pipe, since then it will be necessary to work, produce competitive industrial products, be able to sell abroad, earn foreign currency and pay for the gas you accept. I do not see such an option in the near and long term, unfortunately.
      1. evgen1221 9 January 2020 14: 27 New
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        Well, you understood the essence of my comment correctly.
  • Paul Siebert 8 January 2020 19: 36 New
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    For so many months in a row, our media exposed the "corrupt Bulgarian little brothers" who cut off our South Stream.
    And then the leader of Bulgaria opens the Turkish stream along with Putin and Erdogan.
    Apparently in appreciation for the efforts in the construction of the highway ...
    We are waiting for enthusiastic media stories about the Bulgarian leadership!
    1. Terenin 8 January 2020 20: 15 New
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      Quote: Paul Siebert
      For so many months in a row, our media exposed the "corrupt Bulgarian little brothers" who cut off our South Stream.

      As far as I remember, on the contrary, everyone (including ordinary Bulgarians) said that their puppet power was idiot
  • Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2020 20: 25 New
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    An example - twice Bulgaria in the world wars was a coalition of our enemies, but really the Bulgarians did not fight with Russia or the Soviet Union. laughing Protocol of interrogation of the Obergruppenführer SA A. Beckerle. January 30, 1950 The confrontation protocol between the German ambassador in Bulgaria G. Von Richthofen and SS Oberführer F. Pantsinger on May 17, 1948 laughing Protocol of interrogation of the embassy adviser A. Mormann on February 26, 1945:

    Question. Why was this cooperation necessary with Bulgaria?

    Answer: Bulgaria for Germany was of great strategic importance. The German High Command had in mind to create a stronghold in the Balkans on the territory of Bulgaria. In addition, Bulgaria was a supplier of important strategic raw materials and agricultural products.

    Further, cooperation with the Bulgarians was especially necessary in order to use the territory of Bulgaria for the passage of the German armed forces to Greece and Yugoslavia.

    During the war with the Soviet Union, Bulgaria was an extremely important factor at the time of the fighting on the Crimean peninsula, and later during the retreat of German troops to the Bulgarian border. During this period, the Bulgarian government placed its railways, ports, and ships at the disposal of the German command.

    Question. How exactly did Germany manage to cooperate with the Bulgarian government and use the territory of Bulgaria in the interests of implementing its predatory plans?

    Answer: As far as I know, there was no particular difficulty in persuading the Bulgarian government to cooperate with the Germans. Bulgarian Tsar Boris and his ministers, both from the Filov government and from the Bozhilov government, were themselves all pro-fascist and were supporters of cooperation with the Germans.

    The turning point in the consolidation of friendly relations between Bulgaria and Germany was, of course, the accession of Bulgaria to the Tripartite Pact.

    Question. What measures were carried out by the German government to keep Bulgaria on the side of Germany?

    Answer: Shortly after the accession of Bulgaria to the Triple Pact, the German government concluded a series of secret agreements with Bulgaria, according to which Germany gave Bulgaria the opportunity to acquire a number of territories, and Germany, in turn, gained a number of advantages as a result of these agreements for the implementation of its military plans. On the basis of other secret agreements, Bulgaria transferred to the Germans all the chrome mines in Macedonia; fully paid all the expenses for the maintenance of the German troops in Macedonia and Thrace, while the maintenance of the German troops in the rest of Bulgaria was paid by the German government on the basis of clearing. In addition, an agreement on legal proceedings was concluded, as a result of which German troops stationed in Bulgaria received extraterritoriality.

    Subsequently, a number of trade agreements favorable to Germany were concluded. According to these agreements, almost 75% of Bulgarian exports went to Germany. There was also an agreement on sending labor to Germany from Bulgaria. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2020 20: 29 New
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    Answer \ Before the outbreak of hostilities with the Soviet Union in almost all Balkan countries, the German government replaced its ambassadors, replacing the notorious fascists, who were highly trusted by Hitler and Ribbentrop.

    Killinger was sent to Romania, von Yagov to Hungary, Ludin to Slovakia, and Kashe to Croatia. Beckerle, an old member of the National Socialist Party, SA-Obergruppenführer, who had previously been the president of the police in Frankfurt, arrived in Bulgaria.

    Bulgaria was provided with a large number of various weapons. The supply of weapons began even before the war with the Soviet Union, but mainly it was delivered during the war. Enhanced arms deliveries were made with the aim of maximizing the strengthening of the Bulgarian army in order to fight against the opponents of Germany, including, if it was possible, against the Soviet Union.

    The German government began to intensely take measures to ensure that Bulgaria broke all relations with the Soviet Union. These measures were taken both by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs itself, in particular, Hitler and Ribbentrop repeatedly told Tsar Boris and his ministers about this during their visit to Berlin, and through the embassy. Continue or find yourself? Did not fight laughing
  • Dmitry Makarov 8 January 2020 20: 33 New
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    Well, Serbs, okay, they traditionally sold themselves to the Russian Tsar. But what about the Bulgarian brothers, they are also in NATO, they fought for Hitler. Or maybe just the Bulgarians captured the Russians and Turks, remembered Shipka?
    Well, I didn’t exclude the possibility that the Pope could not have done, he had a conversation with Putin on a copper.
    - no mystery, purely facts.
    1. Kleber 8 January 2020 22: 42 New
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      Serbs sold to the Russian Tsar? Did you understand what you said?
  • cniza 8 January 2020 21: 07 New
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    Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream


    It seems to me that this flow will serve to strengthen the already blocky opposition to US policy.
  • Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2020 21: 14 New
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    As for "this Mr. ...", he is in a status that does not imply impunity for personal insults, without affecting the feelings of the people of Bulgaria. ..... Where did I "offend" the president? belay the first from the French newspaper Express (L'Express), and the second from the newspaper Vremya (Le Temps). The President of Bulgaria does not conceal in his interview his bright pessimistic sentiments and, at the same time, tries to maneuver between Russia and Russophilia and NATO and Russophobic sentiments related to the aggressive and pro-oligarchic policies of President V.V. Putin. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2020 21: 15 New
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    Bulgaria has been and remains 100% a consumer of Russian gas. It is important for Russia to have a Bulgarian gas hub for the construction of a trunk line to Serbia, Hungary, Austria and northern Italy along the shortest route. But for this she will need guarantees from the Bulgarian side. Once already burned. Despite the statement made by presidential spokesman Peskov that Russia is ready to consider the construction of a separate gas pipeline to Bulgaria, there is a feeling that the South Stream train nevertheless slipped past the Bulgarians’s nose.

    Just three days ago, Gazprom granted Turkey a gas discount of 2015–2016 for $ 1 billion in retroactive payments in exchange for laying the second branch in Turkish territory. Where - is still unknown. Perhaps to Bulgaria. That is, if Russia will consider the Bulgarian option, then not earlier than the completion of the construction of the Turkish branch.

    Boyko Borisov was bowed before Putin for the awkward situation with South Stream. It turned out that Gazprom did not demand from Bulgaria € 800 million for the platforms delivered to the port of Burgas from the Italian contractor Saipem, preferring to deal with the court on their own.

    “I am very grateful that they do not hold evil on us about this. But the elders - they are always big and always forgiving, ”Boyko Borisov flashed his tail flatteringly.

    “I’m very embarrassed about who’s the eldest, who’s the youngest, bearing in mind that the elder is always encouraged to pay,” Putin's former intelligence officer cleverly answered.
  • Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2020 21: 20 New
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    Boyko Borisov was bowed before Putin for the awkward situation with South Stream. It turned out that Gazprom did not demand from Bulgaria € 800 million for the platforms delivered to the port of Burgas from the Italian contractor Saipem, preferring to deal with the court on their own. Who will recover the losses?
  • yfast 8 January 2020 22: 47 New
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    Build a pipe for money, then sell gas for money, which pay for the cost of the pipe and interest for loans under the pipe. I don’t understand what is the benefit. Gas is decreasing, money is not arriving. Can the influence come?
  • Mavrikiy 8 January 2020 23: 03 New
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    Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream
    N-da-ah-ah ...... With all this, despite the fact that everyone is predicting the collapse of Turkey, from internal stress. repeat
  • Zomanus 8 January 2020 23: 56 New
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    And what kind of fireworks did the Iranians give them about this ...
  • Pavel57 9 January 2020 01: 46 New
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    War is war, and gas is on schedule.
  • Gennady Fomkin 9 January 2020 03: 34 New
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    True, at the same time, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov says something there about the "generosity of his elder brother," which MUST show Russia and a whole list of 14 sheets, which it still has to ... laughing

    But we will not believe the representatives of the government and plunge into the depths of the comments of ordinary Bulgarians who leave them in the messages about the 142nd anniversary of the liberation of Sofia (well, or the occupation, I'm already confused ...) laughing

    I take the first note on this topic (© Actualno.com) and start reading the comments in order:

    1 comment: Chr. Botev - Russia (Russia) - Enemy No. 1 in the Bulgarians and Bulgaria - http: // www .extremecentrepoint.com / archives / 335 belay

    Is translation required? There, and the link delivers - go - read, learn a lot about the Russians and most importantly - the opinion of the "little brothers" about them. laughing

    2 comments: "Take into account the Russian! Scallop you know the hezik on the enemy!" Vasil Levski.

    3 comments: Ako expel Muscovite dollen, and we conclude the nepotism of cunning the servant of communism in prison, we live in earthly paradise! “Naycho Tsanov

    4 comments: Stig Ruski propaganda lie! Ima two kinds of war - conquering and selective! So, teach and enter the Military Academy! "War of liberation" and Ruska brazen propaganda nonsense! Let’s not say si’s Russian idiots! ... (Enough of the Russian propaganda of lies! There are two types of wars - aggressive and defensive! The liberation war is Russian impudent propaganda nonsense! Let's not speak nonsense in Russian!) laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 9 January 2020 03: 38 New
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    I hope today the numbers have not changed, which will protect in the future from completely unnecessary gestures when shouting "Save-help!", Unjustified costs and the same unjustified hopes. And over Sofia, after another wave of European immigration, the green banner of the Prophet Muhammad will rise, for they have earned the "brothers", they have earned ... And this is not me, it’s also prophesied by Wang.

    laughing
  • yuliatreb 9 January 2020 05: 40 New
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    It is necessary to develop the economy, and not to lay pipelines and think about what will remain for future generations after such PR companies, and an effective manager for the sale of natural resources and foreign policy.
  • Gennady Fomkin 9 January 2020 16: 49 New
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    Taking into account previous and modern experience, this time Russia chose Turkey as its allies. Not satisfied. What do we react to the Bulgarians? But a good enemy is better than a bad friend.
  • MAGRIB 9 January 2020 16: 55 New
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    Quote: Rich
    Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

    Turkey is the first Muslim country to officially ban women wearing hijabs

    It was Azerbaijan.
    http://axc.preslib.az/ru/page/oVaKyw7qrP
  • Gennady Fomkin 9 January 2020 16: 57 New
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    When I was in Bulgaria - it was pretty curious to talk. On the one hand, they need to enter a turik from Russia, a pitcher, On the other hand, to explain why only Kozino flourishes from industry. Towards the end of the tour, the guide hated me fiercely .... laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 9 January 2020 16: 59 New
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    I also remembered. To place, not to place. Turks are the most pleasant people. We have this minority, but not so small. What can I say about the Turks, clean, hardworking, honest.

    I knew a few and am ready to confirm. New story. Preamble to poke. smile