Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream

Today, Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan officially launched the Turkish Stream gas pipeline. This event took place in Turkey, where the Russian president arrived on a working visit after visiting Syria.

The length of the gas pipeline, which is laid along the bottom of the Black Sea, is about 930 km. According to the presidents, this gas transportation project makes trade and economic ties between Turkey and Russia more solid.

The opening ceremony of the gas pipeline was attended by the political leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia. Gas will be delivered to these countries through the Turkish Stream.

Vladimir Putin:

This gas pipeline is becoming a symbol of interaction, cooperation for the benefit of our peoples, the peoples of Europe and the whole world.

In fact, gas supplies through the new gas pipeline began earlier. Today's ceremony is more a formality, but at the same time, its importance cannot be overestimated from both the economic and political points of view.

According to Erdogan, the import of Russian gas to Turkey is constantly growing.

Turkish President:

For 33 years, we have imported 400 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia.

Erdogan commented on the events in Iraq and Iran. According to the Turkish leader, Ankara does not want the region to turn into a territory of endless mediated wars and armed conflicts. Erdogan noted that all these wars do not benefit regional development.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Now it is also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO. It is also very important for Russia to dot the i so that the Turks do not scam on the lands of Syria.

[Sergey39]

But at the same time, this flow will be another leverage against Turkey and Bulgaria. And Bulgaria here again will only be the transmission link from the United States.

[Nemo]

Only now Turkey itself is interested in Russian gas no less, if not more, than Russia in Turkey as a buyer. Now in Turkey, industry is booming, and the population is demanding more and more gas, and no one will sell it cheaper gas in such volumes than Russia.

[bulvas]

Erdogan also needs "friendship" with Russia to keep the EU and the US in good shape.

Ukraine could at least behave like that, and not jump right into the bunk to the West.

[Lelek]

Quote: bulvas

Ukraine could even behave like that

A ruin cannot behave differently because of its non-independence. Turkey is also not a completely independent state (NATO membership), but at least it defends its economic interests contrary to the instructions of the notorious Sam, and Ruin cannot even do this. An agreement on gas with the Russian Federation was signed, and gas transit as of 5.01.2020 fell 5 times compared with December 2019. The United States is only to help, because restricts the flow of Russian gas to Europe, and spit saliva on the economy, which is independent of them.

[g1v2]

This is a dumb clipping. The amount of gas pumped per year is determined. Last month gas was pumped, clogging all the storages in case they don’t agree. Now everything is clogged. Winter is warm - gas consumption in Europe is not large. That’s why pumping has fallen, because everything is clogged. But at the end of the year, they pump exactly as much as is written in the contract. Estimated total pumping. Over the 20th year, 65 billion should be pumped and they will be pumped.

[Sergey1987]

Quote: g1v2

Winter is warm - gas consumption in Europe is not large.

Gas consumption in Europe is only growing every year. and not great compared to whom?

[g1v2]

The total annual consumption in Europe is growing. However, throughout the year it is uneven. Gas goes to power plants and to heating and chemical industry. Accordingly, in winter its consumption grows. Falls in the summer. Winter is warm, storage facilities are full - less gas is consumed than during cold winters.

[Sergey1987]

Quote: g1v2

The total annual consumption in Europe is growing. However, throughout the year it is uneven. Gas goes to power plants and to heating and chemical industry. Accordingly, in winter its consumption grows. Falls in the summer. Winter is warm, storage facilities are full - less gas is consumed than during cold winters.

I completely agree with you, but every year the total gas consumption by European countries is growing (for the whole year) and in summer the population’s consumption is falling, but pumping volumes are not falling, just in the summer of storage and refuel.

[g1v2]

This year there was a stir. Everyone expected that on January 1 gas would not go through Ukraine, and the northern stream would not be ready. Therefore, Europe and Gazprom and Ukraine clogged storage facilities to the eyeballs. Th, therefore, the volumes are still small. But in the summer and autumn they really catch up.

[Victor N]

With the advent of each new pipe, the value of the old transit countries decreases - the opportunity for maneuver increases.

[kjhg]

Quote: Nemo

besides Russia, nobody will sell cheaper gas in such volumes except Russia

Well, what do you write nonsense since you don’t know? Explore the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline project.

[krot]

Explore the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline project.

Blah blah blah .. Study the project ..)) The stream has been launched, and you will continue to study the projects ..))
But Bulgaria is eager for battle, funny ..) Bulgarians want to sit on two chairs, well, well ..)

[Chaldon48]

Bulgaria is a country of "wise men", its leaders are constantly looking for someone stronger to sit more firmly in their chair, and they don't give a damn about everything else.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: krot

But Bulgaria is eager for battle, funny ..) Bulgarians want to sit on two chairs, well, well ..)

And I see that Russia has returned to the Balkans! Serbia, Bulgaria, Turkey ... Look, as in the photograph of the Turks, obsequiously supports V. AT . Putin ...! Straight away - "baklava - makhlava eat darogoi! You don't want to ... eat shashalyk mashlyk !!" "

[mammadov teymur]

they support the old man by the elbow so that he doesn’t fall inadvertently or the little child is all for the same reason, and not what you see in your desires after a good smoke

[bistrov.]

Quote: mammadov teymur

what you see in your desires after a good smoke

Judging by your senseless comment, you yourself are after a "good obkur". We would sit in silence, since you cannot say anything clever and did not show your stupidity here.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: mammadov teymur

they support the old man by the elbow so that he doesn’t fall inadvertently or the little child is all for the same reason, and not what you see in your desires after a good smoke

Well, yes, the "old man" ... This "old man" will break the spine of many young people and will not sweat ... YOU, my friend, before you shake the air with your words, learn decent manners ... Got out of the trash and try to be rude ...

[mammadov teymur]

maybe the old man is really strong since YOU represent him, besides, I didn’t know that my koment would create such a strong vibration where you live, that is, in the garbage can, therefore you judge by yourself and if I was rude, it is Ham. by the way, the old man is going to withdraw PMCs to see they found a common language, unlike us

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: mammadov teymur

maybe the old man is really strong since YOU represent him besides I didn’t know that my koment would create such a strong vibration where you live, that is, in the garbage can

I don’t know who you think is an old man ... And it doesn’t bother me much .. It excites people like you and your kind ... So smart and strong old man!

[Brturin]

Quote: kjhg

Quote: Nemo

besides Russia, nobody will sell cheaper gas in such volumes except Russia

Well, what do you write nonsense since you don’t know? Explore the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline project.

“Who knows, maybe our gas will at some stage join the TANAP project, I wouldn’t rule out this,” Russian Ambassador to Azerbaijan Mikhail Bocharnikov. And why would the Georgians decide to resume the purchase of Russian gas this year (they bought a little 160 million cubic meters, 5%), before that, Minister of Economy Georgy Kobulia talked about the inadmissibility of Azerbaijan’s monopoly

[Astronaut]

So, in order not to write nonsense, look at the amount of gas that Azerbaijan can supply via the South Gas Company with no more than 10 billion m3, while Russia supplies more than 30 billion m3. Moreover, the reserves of the base Azerbaijan’s Shah Deniz 2 turned out to be less than planned.

[kjhg]

Is it for today? I wrote about the project as a whole. In the near future, we are planning to connect Turkmenistan to this gas pipeline, which has got gas. Then, plans are to build additional gas compressor stations.
And what is the argument about? The man wrote that Turkey has nowhere else to take cheap gas. I replied that there is where to get it. All! It is clear that they will not abandon one gas pipeline for the sake of another. They simply have leverage to lower the cost of gas for themselves and make a profit through transit. There are no fools in the world. Well, perhaps our brothers are unreasonable.

[Astronaut]

Turkmenistan’s gas pipeline

Did you read this on the Internet?
Turkmenistan has more than 3000 idle wells, which there is no one to repair. The new fields of Turkmenistan (Galkynysh) are located at great depths of more than 4000 m. In 18, 34 billion cubic meters were sent to China, of which 15 billion under the PSA, and the rest for a Chinese loan. Turkmengaz still has about 30 billion "own" gas. Moreover, they are preparing to launch TAPI in India with a capacity of 33 billion cubic meters, so that there are not so many free volumes for UGK (or NABUKO as it was previously called). So Turkey really doesn't have much choice.

[Abbot]

Quote: kjhg

In the near future, we are planning to connect Turkmenistan to this gas pipeline, which has got gas.

It remains only to persuade Iran and Russia to build a trans-Caspian gas pipeline. A trifle, yeah. In general, so far these are only dreams and endless blah blah.

[Rostovchanin]

I want to clarify ... Russkaya CS was designed to pump 63 billion cubic meters. Gas, but they built only half, although they brought power to these volumes. Now there are 7 gas processing units, but 14 foundations were prepared. At the end of 2014, when UP closed, this very first phase was completed. I put my hands there too, it’s nice that you have something to do with this event.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Nemo

Only now Turkey itself is interested in Russian gas no less, if not more, than Russia in Turkey as a buyer.

There is gas in Iran, and this is closer. Transport costs are lower. The problem is that there is restless. Or maybe that's why it’s restless?

[Victor N]

To provide the northern territories, Iran received gas from Turkmenistan. Pumping gas from South Pars to Turkey is a big problem.

[SSR]

Quote: Nemo

Only now Turkey itself is interested in Russian gas no less, if not more, than Russia in Turkey as a buyer.

Yes, it is beneficial for everyone. Hence, there are so many Internet fighters with the slogan about "tomatoes".

[dzvero]

Hardly. At the moment, the transit "configuration" is pretty stable. Only the Turks will have leverage over Russia. At one time, the drama with UP broke out due to the desire of one American politician to skim the cream off the Ukrainian transit. Now everything seems to be more or less settled down, plus the joint venture and the TP have practically reduced the role of the Ukrainian GTS to zero. By the way, the attempt to overthrow Erdogan in time also fits into the picture of opposition to UP / TP.
ps minus is not mine, even vice versa

[Nomad Plus]

Turks are very greedy for money

[Zoomlion]

And who is not greedy now? Who works for the idea? There are none. And don’t even look

[Lelek]

Quote: dzvero

Now everything seems to be more or less settled down, plus the joint venture and TP practically reduced the role of the Ukrainian gas transportation system to zero.

You also forget to mention SP-3 on the way and "japa" with Koreans are in line.

[dzvero]

About SP-3 somehow passed by; but it sounds logical.
But in general, if Gazprom connects pipes in the east and west of Russia into a common network, then the leverage from transit will go to them

[Brturin]

Quote: Lelek

You still forget to mention SP-3 on the way

Streams, streams .... Now gas has fallen in price, everyone has a drop in revenue, and here are capital projects. It is necessary to complete the Amur Gas Processing Plant, contracts have been signed for the construction of the Baltic Chemical Complex, and there is also an LNG plant for 13 million tons (about 17,5 billion cubic meters). Novatek is also expanding LNG, the Australians with their new Prelude and Ichthys, Qatar is about to build up, the states ... China, battling with the states, has introduced duties on their LNG until the situation in Asia settles down - the gene. Patrick Puyanne Europe, Director of French Total, “is not a natural market for American LNG. It is located in China. And we, as the largest investor in liquefied natural gas from the United States, did not invest in LNG going to Europe. ”

[Flooding]

Quote: Sergey39

But at the same time, this flow will be another leverage against Turkey and Bulgaria. And Bulgaria here again will only be the transmission link from the United States.

Any lever is a double-edged sword. It is important who has more shoulder and weight.

[Sergey39]

This is what I meant. I have it written "simultaneously"

[Flooding]

Quote: Sergey39

This is what I meant. I have it written "simultaneously"

It’s great that we understood each other. I didn’t put you cons))

[private person]

Bulgaria rejoiced most of all, as in the song this joy with tears in his eyes. And happiness was so close.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Sergey39

at the same time, this flow will be another leverage for pressure on Russia from Turkey and Bulgaria

If you talk like that, then you do not need to build gas pipelines. Uncle Sam will say: it’s impossible, they say, to buy gas in Russia, otherwise sanctions and the matter are in the American hat.
But it’s one thing to give such instructions to your vassals when there is no pipe, and it’s quite another when the inexpensive Russian gas that is needed for the population and industry is really easy to supply.
To demand to refuse in this case is equivalent to a robbery. States often rob, but there is a chapel to everything.
They can date their LNG, which they are currently doing; they are selling it to especially dedicated people below cost. But it cannot go on like this for a long time, because it means getting into one’s pocket already. And now, Russian LNG, not to mention pipe gas, is more profitable for consumers overseas.

[major147]

Quote: Mac Simka

And in my opinion, Bulgaria is just waiting for what shit. It is necessary to fasten the screw immediately and be bombarded with “Calbras” along Golden Sands. And yet - to impose sanctions on them for the fact that they have always fought against Russia.

Bulgarian even in the comments shit ....

[Mac Simka]

Yes, you can not please. And so, and always are dissatisfied ....

[major147]

Quote: Mac Simka

Yes, you can not please. And so, and always are dissatisfied ....

"It will be for you, Stirlitz ...."

[Mac Simka]

That's better already ...

[major147]

Quote: Mac Simka

That's better already ...

[major147]

Quote: Sergey39

this flow will be another leverage on Russia

Well, the faucet can be blocked on Russian flows in Turechina, you can block if that ....

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Sergey39

But at the same time, this flow will be another leverage against Turkey and Bulgaria.

With the same success, this flow can be regarded as a lever of pressure on the same Turkey and Bulgaria from Russia. Turks and Bulgarians are interested in receiving both gas and Babos for pumping it. In the absence of gas in the pipe, they will not receive either one or the other. I don’t think they are more stupid than Ukraine, which as a monopoly of the transit pipe, in fact, gave rise to the emergence of alternative routes for gas transit bypassing its territory and made it into a five-year contract with a decrease in pumping volumes.

[RUSS]

Quote: Thrifty

Now it is also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO. It is also very important for Russia to dot the i so that the Turks do not scam on the lands of Syria.

We returned the Crimea, which was previously part of the Russian Empire and the USSR, Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be our Turkish territory.

[the finish]

That's right, part of the empire. But the peoples are different.

[RUSS]

Quote: finish

That's right, part of the empire. But the peoples are different.

Turkey claims to the north of Syria, where Turkomans live compactly; this is not the essence of the same Turks.

[Flooding]

Quote: RUSS

Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be their Turkish territory.

Syria has not belonged to the Turks for 100 years. It is time for them to get used to this idea.

[RUSS]

Quote: Flood

Quote: RUSS

Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be their Turkish territory.

Syria has not belonged to the Turks for 100 years. It is time for them to get used to this idea.

We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

[Grandfather]

Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream

class! I jump with the sofa! Finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall with the retirement age! and in the "magnetopyaterochkah" price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

[Major Yurik]

Quote: Dead Day

Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream

class! I jump with the sofa! Finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall with the retirement age! and in the "magnetopyaterochkah" price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

Who is what, and who is to be in the front row!
The old guard in the museum: - Here you are, you bastards, people have nothing to eat, but they paint oil paintings!

[Flooding]

Quote: Dead Day

class! I jump with the sofa! Finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall with the retirement age! and in the "magnetopyaterochkah" price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

To you in Benelux.

[Stils]

Quote: Dead Day

Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream

class! I jump with the sofa! Finally, the price tag of housing and communal services will fall with the retirement age! and in the "magnetopyaterochkah" price tags will climb down! Hooray ! PABEDA!

You plus ... little joy from this news, or rather quite a bit. Money naturally past ordinary, ordinary people. Millers and other newcomers will continue to row loot with a shovel and put them somewhere in a quiet, safe place.

[major147]

Quote: Stils

You plus ... little joy from this news, or rather quite a bit. Money naturally past ordinary, ordinary people. Millers and other newcomers will continue to row loot with a shovel and put them somewhere in a quiet, safe place.

IASO checked in at the box office!

[Stils]

Quote: major147

Quote: Stils

You plus ... little joy from this news, or rather quite a bit. Money naturally past ordinary, ordinary people. Millers and other newcomers will continue to row loot with a shovel and put them somewhere in a quiet, safe place.

IASO checked in at the box office!

Wrong answer. What is this pipe to you, is it yours? Maybe you are a shareholder of Gazprom? I don’t understand people who are really happy about this news and have absolutely nothing to do with the pipe. Maybe retirement age will be reduced, VAT will be lowered, fees will decrease ?? They robbed them and continue to rob them further !!
It’s very naive to believe that the current authorities are making these pipes for the population, to protect their power, YES! And boobs think for them

[major147]

Quote: Stils

What is this pipe to you, is it yours?

[Stils]

Alexey Borisovich, you ??

Quote: major147

Quote: Stils

What is this pipe to you, is it yours?

[AlexG83]

Quote: Stils

Wrong answer. What is this pipe to you, is it yours? Maybe you are a shareholder of Gazprom? I don’t understand people who are really happy about this news and have absolutely nothing to do with the pipe. Maybe retirement age will be reduced, VAT will be lowered, fees will decrease ?? They robbed them and continue to rob them further !!
It’s very naive to believe that the current authorities are making these pipes for the population, to protect their power, YES! And boobs think for them

Are you definitely not from some country? They usually write about the same blizzard, clumsy, stereotyped, with the expectation of naive fools who are unable to understand where the resources for infrastructure projects, defense industry, and so on come from. You can rub in that "cosmodromes", "Crimean bridges", Olympic facilities, infrastructure for the World Cup, a shipyard in the Far East, which is now being built, and a giant crane for it, just mysteriously materialize out of thin air, and have no meaning for " common people (as usual, some people like to express themselves) ". Foreign equipment for enterprises, from among those that Russia is not yet able to produce itself, also materializes out of thin air. And the amerikokosov from these gas pipelines itching in their pants for nothing.
No matter how magically it turns out that even those profits that are in the pockets of the Millers are severely restricted (in terms of how they can be disposed of) and do not disappear from the Russian economy, because Yeltsin is not in the yard now.

[major147]

Quote: AlexG83

Are you definitely not from any country?

You are in front of the staff troll "throwing beads". Wasted time and font.

[Stils]

Quote: major147

Quote: AlexG83

Are you definitely not from any country?

You are in front of the staff troll "throwing beads". Wasted time and font.

Which of us is a troll is another question, or rather already. There are not so many putenoids here by the way, honest people are able to figure out who is who, and how cleverly gets into his pocket, broadcasting regular promises, so we are on the opposite side of the barricades, Mr. Major. I have the honor!

[major147]

Quote: Stils

I have the honor!

This is hardly ....

[georggy]

Yes, in the yard now is not Yeltsin, but his receiver.
Think yourself what a blizzard you're carrying.

[Flooding]

Quote: RUSS

We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

Are you from the USSR? For Soviet people, Crimea was its own in the Union.
So to speak in this vein can only be about a quarter century.

[Sergey S.]

We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

1. We "did not get used to the Crimea" from 1991 to 2014, that is, over a period of 23 years. But this is not the period that should have been considered as a period of rejection ... there were still years of real friendship, common parades, joint projects, no border ...
2. The term does not play a special role in the issue of the Crimea. These people and this territory are historically special. They always concentrated on the idea of ​​an original empire, to some extent even, we can say, isolated, whether in the days of the Greeks, Romans, Goths and Scythians, even the Mongols degenerated here into the Crimean Tatars ... And only during the Khazar rule, Crimea was the periphery ... So to be the province of Ukraine, which itself sought to the periphery of the European Union, the Crimeans could not agree. To become the center of the Russian world is what really matches the inner state, and what they deserve.
3. Turkey and Syria have a completely different history of relations. I am not an Arabist, and with pleasure I would listen to an orientalist specialist on this subject.
But to identify the Ottoman Empire with today's Turkey is not correct. Unlike Russia, the Ottoman Empire did not become the melting pot of a single nation. And the Turks in the Ottoman Empire did not constitute the majority, and even relatively small numbers of Bulgarians and Greeks were not able to assimilate completely, although they really dominated at least three centuries, almost 400 years. For this reason, even today's Turkey has historical prospects to fall apart ... for example, the Armenians will regain demographic control over Greater Armenia ... Asian Minor Greeks will openly remember their ancient history, there are even meager chances that under the influence of European culture the Albanians will degenerate into the heirs of Odyssey ...
And then a cop will come to Turkey Erdogan ... By the way, I am not against this scenario, because the pragmatism and bragging of the Turks are known, and the Ottoman Empire did not leave a real positive civilizational effect. The military dictatorship-democracy is not inclined to creative creativity. And this is without negative emotions towards the Turks. how to people. They simply have the experience of statehood as they are.
4. In relation to Syria, one must be more modest in assessing events and successes ... Any ancient civilization has experience in surviving in the most difficult conditions. Ancient nations know the value of friendship and meanness. They have a drawer, are able to wait and realize the opportunities that open up.
I really hope that in the future, Syria will be all right, especially since these ancient biblical lands are surrounded mainly by Arabs ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Sergey S.

. Turkey and Syria have a completely different relationship history

Well, of course this is so, according to the same logic, the Americans argue about Kosovo that this is a completely different story, but Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia are illegal and not right.

Quote: Sergey S.

And the Turks in the Ottoman Empire did not constitute the majority, and even relatively small numbers of Bulgarians and Greeks were not able to assimilate completely, although they really dominated at least three centuries, almost 400 years.

So we could not assimilate the Caucasus and Central Asia

[Sergey S.]

... according to the same logic, Americans argue about Kosovo that this is a completely different story, but Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia are illegal and not right

Americans on the drum and Kosovo, and Abkhazia. They are only interested in real and political dividends.
By the way, primitive individuals usually agree with this.
But the long-term policy of the Americans is futile.
Years will pass, maybe decades or centuries, and Americans will receive for everything, everywhere and in full. They will remember everything, and especially those who today are forced to kiss their hands and other parts of the body ....

[RUSS]

Quote: Sergey S.

Years will pass, maybe decades or centuries, and Americans will receive for everything, everywhere and to the fullest

For what are we suffering? What are we rewarded for?

[Sergey S.]

Quote: RUSS

So we could not assimilate the Caucasus and Central Asia

Must be surprised.
We did not even assimilate the Sami and Chukchi ...
Not only that, they helped with the alphabet, national teacher cadres, national cadres, provided autonomy ....
Here is such an assimilation in Russian.
By the way, in the Caucasus, many understand this.
This is me about Ossetians, peoples and peoples of Dagestan, and even about so many Chechens ...

[lopvlad]

Quote: RUSS

we could not assimilate the Caucasus and Central Asia

The Russian state in its history has never tried to assimilate any of the people included in its composition. At the heart of the state there has always been and will be a union of different nations and peoples for the sake of a better existence and joint protection against more powerful enemies.
No melting pots where different peoples tried to "comb one size fits all" and from separate peoples one mono-people or a unitary state in Russia was never undertaken.

[voyaka uh]

"but a real positive civilization effect
The Ottoman Empire did not leave behind itself "////
----
The metropolis remained from the Empire - Turkey itself.
Developed industrial country.
From the Ottoman Empire remained throughout the Middle East
legislative framework. For example, in Israel still
measure land in dunams, despite the metric system.
And the foundations of land legislation remained Turkish.

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

Alexey, I totally agree! From any empire - the imperial, let it remain! (My phrase). But, seriously, no one has yet been able to replace Roman law, as well as the fact that Marx's Capital is being studied more closely today than a hundred years ago. It is a pity that the phrase "we will tear the old world to the ground ..." was replaced by "we will destroy the old world to the ground ..." And so in everything, and so everywhere, and so everything ...

[Yeraz]

Quote: Sergey S.

Turkey and Syria have a completely different history of relations. I am not an Arabist, and with pleasure I would listen to an orientalist specialist on this subject.

Don’t argue. To begin with, study the role of ALEPPO for the Turks and the influence and composition of the population in Aleppo over a long historical period.
And the Ottoman Empire is Turkey.

Quote: Sergey S.

for example, Armenians will regain demographic control over Greater Armenia ...

ahahahha))) the Armenians in Armenia itself would have to deal with demographics, and then think about the lands where the Kurds now live and oh, how good it is with demographics.

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

Calm, sustained, deliberate. Plus! And, most importantly - your own, that is, your opinion. Thank! It is a pity that there is so little on the forum of just such respectful communication. Regarding your position on points, not being an Arabist in general, and a historian in particular, I will allow myself to express or indicate the position of an ordinary reasonable 57-year-old, indigenous, in the 4th generation Muscovite.
1st and 2nd points. And with the Crimeans, the indigenous Crimeans, who have lived with families for more than 100-150 years on this earth, did you, Sergey, communicate? I talked. They are not interested in the peculiarity of the territory, originality or isolation. They just want to live, give birth, bring up, create, and are ready to protect their home as they can, as they can. They have been living with Russia for a long time, they can and know how to serve the good, but they will not allow themselves to be torn off like a sticky person. Crimeans will support me, I know. And, you are right, nationality has nothing to do with it. It’s just that you don’t have to bother people living, living by the rules. The rules should be equal for everyone. And these rules should be forever. And those who violate these rules must be beaten hand, head, brain, depending on the size of the deviation from the rules. And religion has nothing to do with it either. Warehouse of life, customs and rules of conduct. Rules of conduct on this earth (Crimean, Tatar, Moscow, Rostov - any other). And the guest, if he decides to visit or settle on this earth, must abide by the rules of this land. If it does not comply, then - or or the enemy. Everything is simple. Simple - respect for those who live on this earth, give birth, create, love. It simply cannot be otherwise.
3. More than once rested in Turkey. He left the hotel, talked with the locals, argued about religion, culture, history. And, you know, the indigenous Turks do not care deeply about the Ottoman traditions, claims and national pride associated with this. But any Turk will climb on knives for his family, his family, for the honor of his family. And it is worthy of respect. To the Orthodox in Turkey, and you know that, full respect, the temples operate and flourish. Nationalism is absent as such. What will be destroyed there, I do not know, the Turks are by no means lazy, as some are trying to provide. Today, the Turks are the best tailors on this planet. I am pleased to wear clothes made in Turkey. Medicines produced in this country are not fake and always of excellent quality. Perfumes, food are also on top. I will not speak about tourism, from which I started. All of Europe sits there year-round.
4. I completely agree.
P / S Even the Mongols degenerated here in the Crimean Tatars ... Class. Thanks again.

[Altai72]

They wrote almost an essay))) You don’t have a drop of knowledge on this topic, either deliberately mislead people, or just want to expose someone as an outcast, and someone as a creator. I am not a supporter of neo-Ottomanism, but you are trying to distort the history of Turkey here deliberately distorting everything. Radical nationalism and incitement are clearly visible in your writings.

[/ quote] Unlike Russia, the Ottoman Empire did not become the melting pot of a single nation.

What are you talking about?)) Are you aware that you contradict yourself?

Turkey and Syria have a completely different history of relations. I am not an Arabist, and with pleasure I would listen to an orientalist specialist on this subject.

Turks and Arabs are the same as Russians and Zimbabweans.

Turkey has historical prospects to fall apart ...

The collapse of the Empires is mutual and it was once.

Armenians will regain demographic control over Greater Armenia ... Asia Minor Greeks will openly recall their ancient history, there are even scant chances that under the influence of European culture the Albanians will degenerate into the heirs of Odysseus ...

When??? all THIS listed by you is only decreasing, not increasing. And show us here at least one document about your "great Armenia", or an Armenian neighbor told you about it. Are you promoting someone here or what?

And then Turkey will come to Erdogan kopets ... By the way, I am not against this scenario, because the pragmatism and bragging of the Turks are known, and the Ottoman Empire did not leave a real positive civilizational effect. [Quote]

I will not answer this, it will take a lot of time, but soon everything will show itself. I hope we all will be destined to see this life.

[Karen]

Dear, today's Turkish nationalists emphasize that without genocide a hundred years ago, Greeks and Armenians - Turkey would not have become so monolithic (let us leave the Kurdish issue for now)

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: RUSS

We have not gotten used to Crimea for 50 years and they will not get used to Syria

We got used to Finland, as did the Baltic states.

[Kleber]

Like the Turks got used to the fact that Crimea is no longer theirs.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Kleber

that Crimea is no longer theirs.

So he was not theirs. There for three hundred years their vassals taxied, no more.

[Warrior05]

Strange logic ... recall where were Poland, Georgia and other Caucasian states, the Baltic states, the same Finland and Central Asia under the Russian Empire? And, what, does Russia require all this to be attached back? I will not even remember the British Empire and Constantinople ...
Crimea was an autonomous territorial formation within Ukraine, and as a result of a coup in Kiev and a referendum by the will of the people, it became part of Russia! I can not say anything about the referendum in northern Syria and the autonomy of these territories ....
Not correct compared!

[Petrix]

Quote: RUSS

and the Turks just as we rightly consider Syria or its part to be their Turkish territory.

From what date does the history of mankind begin "fair"? Before the Ottoman Empire, there was history, both before and before .....

[RUSS]

Quote: Petrix

From what date does human history begin "justly"? Before the Ottoman Empire, history was, both before and before .....

What are you talking about?

[Petrix]

Quote: RUSS

What are you talking about?

The word "fair" doesn't fit in somehow. Otherwise, I agree. Although, if you look from the point of view of a Turk, it is fair, but from the point of view of a Syrian, it is unfair.

[Sergej1972]

Turks do not consider Syria as their territory. Ataturk also stated that Arabs and Turks need to live in separate states, but at the same time be on friendly terms. The maximum that the Turks can make claims regarding the territories inhabited by the Turks or related Turkic-speaking, non-Arab peoples.
You compare the population of Turkey and the Arab states that were once part of it. Egypt now has 100 million people, with 82 million in Turkey. And if you add the population of Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia to the population of Egypt?

[SergGrey318]

Syria is also part of the former Turkish Ottoman Empire

The main purpose of Russia, in this world, is to end the existence of empires. ;-)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

Now it’s also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO

And what has "TP" to do with it? Gas supplies are not associated with this in any way. Calculate how many NATO members import Russian gas.

[Finches]

There are no complaints about the foreign policy of GDP - handsome! Supreme - give it to your friends in St. Petersburg in domestic politics! Well, by God, boots! People are asking not to shoot (although they will not be against it), but dismiss Medvedev and Co. A mediocrity on a corrupt official and a mediocrity drives! They launched a flow, force to China, the joint venture would somehow get to nemchura ... But the Russian people only have emotions - like the guy in the video: "You like the Christmas tree!"

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Thrifty

Now it is also important not to lose influence on Serbia so that they do not join NATO.

What are you smoking gentlemen / citizens? But what difference does it make to what substance will Serbia enter today ??

[anjey]

Erdogan noted that all these wars do not benefit regional development.

Someone in the region sometimes thinks differently, not excluding the applicant himself
The conflict between the USA and Iran, like a litmus test, will show who is worth what and whether BV will be able to get rid of the real invaders from the USA.

[Thrifty]

If he is so smart, why did he send his military to Libya? And then in fact, between words and deeds, Erdogad has a huge difference!

[anjey]

Maybe he saw in the new coalition strategy more benefits for Turkey, and this is better than laying the political and economic balance in one, having lost confidence in the Western partners ???
And in Libya, you can also agree favorably on mutually beneficial shares in the future.

[Thrifty]

Erdogad first of all seeks nishtyaki personally for himself, and puts the country's profit in second place! You can only believe this if you have nothing to do with it!

[RUSS]

Quote: Thrifty

If he is so smart, why did he send his military to Libya? And then in fact, between words and deeds, Erdogad has a huge difference!

Erdogan sends his troops to Libya at the request of the Libyan government, as earlier we sent troops to Syria at the request of Assad

[Gray brother]

Quote: RUSS

Erdogan sends his troops to Libya at the request of the Libyan government,

There are two governments, both of which consider each other as illegal armed groups)))
It’s just that Turkey and the PNS have signed an agreement on military and naval cooperation and now they are sharing the shelf cutting Israel off with its gas pipeline project from Europe, and all the rest at the same time who hangs out there.
If Saraju is stuffed with a mouthful of cucumbers and chased from Libya to the neck, then all this wonderful undertaking will go to dust.
Therefore, the Turks are harnessing for him.

[RUSS]

Quote: Gray Brother

There are two governments

There is one government that recognizes the UN, the second "government" is a rebellious general

[Gray brother]

Quote: RUSS

There is one government that recognizes the UN, the second "government" is a rebellious general

Yes, no one cares who the UN recognizes there - whoever wins, that and slippers.
The Sultan had to negotiate with both so that he did not put all the eggs in one basket and the soldiers did not spend there.

[Kleber]

This rebellious general is recognized by Russia. Is this not enough for you?

[RUSS]

Quote: Kleber

This rebellious general is recognized by Russia. Is this not enough for you?

Of course not enough)))))) one more potential dictator to support

[Thunderbolt]

What an impressive vest Erdogan has. Or was he wearing a bronic over a shirt?

[Thrifty]

Alesha is a yolk, for the bronick is painfully short, the throat is generally open!

[pytar]

November 08.01.2020, XNUMX At a meeting with Vladimir Putin, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov spoke about the construction of the Balkan Stream along Bulgarian territory. A gas pipeline with a total length of 474 km and a pipe diameter of 1220 mm will pass through the territory of 34 municipalities in 11 regions of Bulgaria. To date, the gas pipeline is being built in 4 regions - Pleven, Lovech, Vratsevskaya and Montana.
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November 08.01.2020, XNUMX The Bulgarian government has decided to purchase 20% of the capital of the project company Gaztrade, which is building a terminal for liquefied gas near Alexandroupolis in Greece, by Bulgartransgaz. Bulgarian participation is fully consistent with the updated energy strategy and is a significant step in the implementation of the Balkan gas hub, based on the approval of a transparent, liquid and reliable natural gas market, the reasons for the decision are noted. Bulgaria reserves for the period from 3 to 5 years the acquisition of up to 500 million m300. liquefied gas, but not less than XNUMX million mXNUMX. in year.

[EDWARD]

it would be very nice to bring Russia closer to itself and Turkey and Iran in the BV. Syria is already with us. and then the amers will be very crowded and uncomfortable in BV

[RUSS]

Quote: EDWARD

it would be very nice to bring Russia closer to itself and Turkey and Iran in the BV. Syria is already with us. and then the amers will be very crowded and uncomfortable in BV

Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

[Terenin]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: EDWARD

it would be very nice to bring Russia closer to itself and Turkey and Iran in the BV. Syria is already with us. and then the amers will be very crowded and uncomfortable in BV

Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

So, especially the wishes of Edward have a long-term meaning and perspective.

[Kleber]

Quote: RUSS

Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

Turkey is Orthodox, and Russia is Giara. However, this does not prevent to negotiate and work together.

[cost]

Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

Not quite so. 20% of Muslims in Turkey are Shiite-Alevites. Nevertheless, the Muslim movements of Turkey coexist perfectly with each other. Turkey is a secular Islamic country. Turkey is the first Muslim country to officially ban women wearing hijabs

[RUSS]

Quote: Kleber

Quote: RUSS

Turkey and Iran are rivals and competitors in the Middle East and Tambole Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

Turkey is Orthodox, and Russia is Giara. However, this does not prevent to negotiate and work together.

This is true, Russia’s largest trade turnover with NATO countries

[lopvlad]

Quote: RUSS

and Iran is Shiites

Iran is primarily the Persians.

[sagitch]

For Americans, the shah from Russia.

[RUSS]

Quote: sagitch

For Americans, the shah from Russia.

Are you a joker

[cost]

Quote: sagitch
For Americans, the shah from Russia.

Who will appoint the Shah? Your suggestions

[demo]

The photo is symbolic.
The head of Turkey stands with the heads of Russia, Serbia and Bulgaria.
Those. the country that secured the independence of Bulgaria and Serbia and tore them away from Turkey, took and combined them into a single energy project.
All the same, trading is better than fighting.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Heh Heh Erdogan is the most important Serbs sorry, but the rest of the "partners" in the person of Mr. Boyko Borisov nafig.

But is it not time to begin to coexist peacefully, and not to hang up labels. You can always do everything peacefully, you can always agree.

[Nikitich]

Old Man 2 got

[75 Sergey]

Komuto dough will roll on a few more yachts and remain

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Heh Heh Erdogan is the most important Serbs sorry, but the rest of the "partners" in the person of Mr. Boyko Borisov nafig.

But is it not time to begin to coexist peacefully, and not to hang up labels. You can always do everything peacefully, you can always agree.

142 years ago, on December 23, 1877, or on January 4, 1878, Russian troops inflicted the strongest insult on the Bulgarian people, expelling the civilized and enlightened Turkish troops from Sofia and literally foraging kickback Bulgarians on their hateful independence.

This insult was so great that the entire subsequent history of Bulgaria in all world wars fought exclusively against Russia, and in the intervals between them - diligently and very ingeniously shit on her head, not forgetting to yell about "eternal brotherly friendship" and permanently begging to gild the pen ...

A no less "insult" to the Bulgarians was inflicted after the Great Patriotic War, when, forgetting about the devastated cities and villages of the Non-Black Earth Region, the USSR rushed to rebuild the generally absent economy of "brothers".

As a result, the total Bulgarian Gross National Product (GNP) for 40 post-war years has grown by more than 14 times, per capita - almost 30 times. In the period from 1946 to 1986, about 80% of industrial capacities were created in Bulgaria, more than a third of agricultural capacities, up to 90% of energy, 70% of the transport network, 80% of port infrastructure, more than 80% of the total area of ​​housing, healthcare, education, and science and culture.

For 8,9 million people (in 1986) there were 27 universities, 185 state museums, 10,4 thousand public libraries, 55 theaters, etc. All this was done at the expense of exclusively material, technical and financial assistance from the USSR , due to Soviet personnel. And for free! In terms of modern prices, the USSR invested hundreds of billions of dollars in Bulgaria! It is also necessary to take into account compensation for the supply of Bulgarian goods to the Union: with the low cost of Bulgarian products, Moscow paid Sofia at rates close to world ones. For Bulgaria, prices for supplied Soviet goods were underestimated.

Naturally, it was impossible to endure such humiliation, and the offended national self-consciousness of the "brothers" found its fertile outlet in the cave Russophobia, which the Bulgarians preach continuously after their liberation from the Soviet Bgg ...

[Sergej1972]

Or maybe it was necessary to count Ignatiev, very respected by the Bulgarians, to proclaim Prince of Bulgaria? Who knows, maybe history would have developed differently then.

[Adimius38]

this gas is not cold for Russians, it’s not hot ..... yes, and get ready for more expensive utilities and gas prices

[evgen1221]

Well, the bicycle tax in September will be launched, the next step is the consideration of muzzles with counters of exhaled CO2 for every dear Russian.

[Vadim237]

I would also introduce a fine for the removal of a catalytic converter - otherwise people like to do this topic in Russia.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Vadim237

I would also introduce a fine for removing the catalytic converter

and I introduced a ban on the construction of buildings above the 5th floor, or else they will build the city-anthill-gadyushniki and then you are surprised that something is wrong with the environment. And you wanted to spoil thousands of square meters of land for thousands and to keep these meters always clean and fragrant?

[lopvlad]

Quote: evgen1221

Well, the tax on bicycles in September will be launched

Well, firstly, not in September, but from January 1, 2020, it is already in effect, and not the tax but the recycling fee that was included in the price of the bicycle (10%) is taken once for the purchase of the bicycle. In fact, the cost of a new bicycle increased by at least 10%.

[evgen1221]

What is tax. Well, who, when and where will the bike be pulled into metal reception? There are only separate battery trash in each yard for batteries and plastic, I have not seen. Yes, at best, at the fence in the village of grandfather. It turns out that they just introduced another air tax.

[lopvlad]

Quote: evgen1221

On batteries and plastic

there is the same recycling fee and, like bicycles, it is included in the price of the battery. But for some reason no one is indignant and does not call it a tax.

[evgen1221]

Yes, we have a lot of things that are not outraged by ignorance

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Heh Heh Erdogan is the most important Serbs I feel sorry for, but the rest of the "partners" in the person of Mr. Boyko Borisov nafig. Well, at least Erdogan profit, Serbs for a good attitude, and this Mr. Well for his p ........ th language or what?

Except He.He makes no sense.
If the term "sorry" is understood in the old Russian sense - "I love" - ​​the meaning partially appears.
Further...
It seems that in the last sentence something is missing, for example, the preposition "with" and with commas needs to be worked on.
Then we get another reflection:
Well, with Erdogan, at least the Serbs profit for a good attitude ...

As for "this Mr. ...", he has a status that does not imply personal insult with impunity, without hurting the feelings of the people of Bulgaria. But this is certainly not in the interests of Russia and the Russians, or simply the Russian people.
I myself am not delighted with the policy of Bulgaria in the period after gaining independence, that is, during the entire period of its statehood. But given that we, Russians, for centuries have declared aid to the Slavs and the Orthodox, have declared that Moscow is the "Third Rome", there is no point in abandoning this policy. She has already brought a positive result.
An example - twice Bulgaria in the world wars was a coalition of our enemies, but really the Bulgarians did not fight with Russia or the Soviet Union. I am sure that in the future they will not fight with us, unlike countless real enemies ...
No need to petty revenge on the Bulgarians for their inability to confront the West in anti-Russian politics ...
It will resolve itself.

[evgen1221]

The launch of the Turkish stream will cause a rapid growth of industry in Turkey and Bulgaria .... Damn, can we not stand on the side of the pipe? We all have gas, they have a decline in us. Maybe if someone extends a pipe to us, we will see a rapid growth of industry?

[Oquzyurd]

"Damn, can we not stand the side of the pipe?" It is contraindicated to be lazy, spending half a year on holidays and with the consequences of these same holidays. It is impossible to be the receiving party of the pipe, because then you will have to work, produce competitive industrial products, be able to sell abroad, earn currency and pay for the gas you accept. Unfortunately, I do not see such an option in the short and long term.

[evgen1221]

Well, you understood the essence of my comment correctly.

[Paul Siebert]

For so many months in a row, our media denounced the "corrupt Bulgarian brothers" who killed our "South Stream".
And then the leader of Bulgaria opens the Turkish stream along with Putin and Erdogan.
Apparently in appreciation for the efforts in the construction of the highway ...
We are waiting for enthusiastic media stories about the Bulgarian leadership!

[Terenin]

Quote: Paul Siebert

For so many months in a row, our media denounced the "corrupt Bulgarian brothers" who killed our "South Stream".

As far as I remember, on the contrary, everyone (including ordinary Bulgarians) said that their puppet power was idiot

[Gennady Fomkin]

An example - twice Bulgaria in the world wars was a coalition of our enemies, but really the Bulgarians did not fight with Russia or the Soviet Union. Protocol of interrogation of the Obergruppenführer SA A. Beckerle. January 30, 1950 The confrontation protocol between the German ambassador in Bulgaria G. Von Richthofen and SS Oberführer F. Pantsinger on May 17, 1948 Protocol of interrogation of the embassy adviser A. Mormann on February 26, 1945:

Question. Why was this cooperation necessary with Bulgaria?

Answer: Bulgaria for Germany was of great strategic importance. The German High Command had in mind to create a stronghold in the Balkans on the territory of Bulgaria. In addition, Bulgaria was a supplier of important strategic raw materials and agricultural products.

Further, cooperation with the Bulgarians was especially necessary in order to use the territory of Bulgaria for the passage of the German armed forces to Greece and Yugoslavia.

During the war with the Soviet Union, Bulgaria was an extremely important factor at the time of the fighting on the Crimean peninsula, and later during the retreat of German troops to the Bulgarian border. During this period, the Bulgarian government placed its railways, ports, and ships at the disposal of the German command.

Question. How exactly did Germany manage to cooperate with the Bulgarian government and use the territory of Bulgaria in the interests of implementing its predatory plans?

Answer: As far as I know, there was no particular difficulty in persuading the Bulgarian government to cooperate with the Germans. Bulgarian Tsar Boris and his ministers, both from the Filov government and from the Bozhilov government, were themselves all pro-fascist and were supporters of cooperation with the Germans.

The turning point in the consolidation of friendly relations between Bulgaria and Germany was, of course, the accession of Bulgaria to the Tripartite Pact.

Question. What measures were carried out by the German government to keep Bulgaria on the side of Germany?

Answer: Shortly after the accession of Bulgaria to the Triple Pact, the German government concluded a series of secret agreements with Bulgaria, according to which Germany gave Bulgaria the opportunity to acquire a number of territories, and Germany, in turn, gained a number of advantages as a result of these agreements for the implementation of its military plans. On the basis of other secret agreements, Bulgaria transferred to the Germans all the chrome mines in Macedonia; fully paid all the expenses for the maintenance of the German troops in Macedonia and Thrace, while the maintenance of the German troops in the rest of Bulgaria was paid by the German government on the basis of clearing. In addition, an agreement on legal proceedings was concluded, as a result of which German troops stationed in Bulgaria received extraterritoriality.

Subsequently, a number of trade agreements favorable to Germany were concluded. According to these agreements, almost 75% of Bulgarian exports went to Germany. There was also an agreement on sending labor to Germany from Bulgaria.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Answer \ Before the outbreak of hostilities with the Soviet Union in almost all Balkan countries, the German government replaced its ambassadors, replacing the notorious fascists, who were highly trusted by Hitler and Ribbentrop.

Killinger was sent to Romania, von Yagov to Hungary, Ludin to Slovakia, and Kashe to Croatia. Beckerle, an old member of the National Socialist Party, SA-Obergruppenführer, who had previously been the president of the police in Frankfurt, arrived in Bulgaria.

Bulgaria was provided with a large number of various weapons. The supply of weapons began even before the war with the Soviet Union, but mainly it was delivered during the war. Enhanced arms deliveries were made with the aim of maximizing the strengthening of the Bulgarian army in order to fight against the opponents of Germany, including, if it was possible, against the Soviet Union.

The German government began to intensely take measures to ensure that Bulgaria broke all relations with the Soviet Union. These measures were taken both by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs itself, in particular, Hitler and Ribbentrop repeatedly told Tsar Boris and his ministers about this during their visit to Berlin, and through the embassy. Continue or find yourself? Did not fight

[Dmitry Makarov]

Well, Serbs, okay, they traditionally sold themselves to the Russian Tsar. But what about the Bulgarian brothers, they are also in NATO, they fought for Hitler. Or maybe just the Bulgarians captured the Russians and Turks, remembered Shipka?
Well, I didn’t exclude the possibility that the Pope could not have done, he had a conversation with Putin on a copper.
- no mystery, purely facts.

[Kleber]

Serbs sold to the Russian Tsar? Did you understand what you said?

[cniza]

Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream

It seems to me that this flow will serve to strengthen the already blocky opposition to US policy.

[Gennady Fomkin]

As for "this Mr. ...", he has a status that does not imply personal insult with impunity, without hurting the feelings of the people of Bulgaria. ..... Where did I "insult" the president? the first from the French newspaper Express (L'Express), and the second from the newspaper Vremya (Le Temps). The President of Bulgaria does not conceal in his interview his bright pessimistic sentiments and, at the same time, tries to maneuver between Russia and Russophilia and NATO and Russophobic sentiments related to the aggressive and pro-oligarchic policies of President V.V. Putin.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Bulgaria has been and remains 100% a consumer of Russian gas. It is important for Russia to have a Bulgarian gas hub for the construction of a trunk line to Serbia, Hungary, Austria and northern Italy along the shortest route. But for this she will need guarantees from the Bulgarian side. Once already burned. Despite the statement made by presidential spokesman Peskov that Russia is ready to consider the construction of a separate gas pipeline to Bulgaria, there is a feeling that the South Stream train nevertheless slipped past the Bulgarians’s nose.

Just three days ago, Gazprom granted Turkey a gas discount of 2015–2016 for $ 1 billion in retroactive payments in exchange for laying the second branch in Turkish territory. Where - is still unknown. Perhaps to Bulgaria. That is, if Russia will consider the Bulgarian option, then not earlier than the completion of the construction of the Turkish branch.

Boyko Borisov was bowed before Putin for the awkward situation with South Stream. It turned out that Gazprom did not demand from Bulgaria € 800 million for the platforms delivered to the port of Burgas from the Italian contractor Saipem, preferring to deal with the court on their own.

“I am very grateful that they do not hold evil on us about this. But the elders - they are always big and always forgiving, ”Boyko Borisov flashed his tail flatteringly.

“I’m very embarrassed about who’s the eldest, who’s the youngest, bearing in mind that the elder is always encouraged to pay,” Putin's former intelligence officer cleverly answered.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Boyko Borisov was bowed before Putin for the awkward situation with South Stream. It turned out that Gazprom did not demand from Bulgaria € 800 million for the platforms delivered to the port of Burgas from the Italian contractor Saipem, preferring to deal with the court on their own. Who will recover the losses?

[yfast]

Build a pipe for money, then sell gas for money, which pay for the cost of the pipe and interest for loans under the pipe. I don’t understand what is the benefit. Gas is decreasing, money is not arriving. Can the influence come?

[Mavrikiy]

Putin and Erdogan, along with the leaders of Bulgaria and Serbia, commissioned Turkish Stream

N-da-ah-ah ...... With all this, despite the fact that everyone is predicting the collapse of Turkey, from internal stress.

[Zomanus]

And what kind of fireworks did the Iranians give them about this ...

[Pavel57]

War is war, and gas is on schedule.

[Gennady Fomkin]

However, at the same time, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov says something about the "big brother's generosity" that Russia MUST show and a whole list of 14 pages, which it still needs ...

But we will not believe the representatives of the government and plunge into the depths of the comments of ordinary Bulgarians who leave them in the messages about the 142nd anniversary of the liberation of Sofia (well, or the occupation, I'm already confused ...)

I take the first note on this topic (© Actualno.com) and start reading the comments in order:

1 comment: Chr. Botev - Russia (Russia) - Enemy No. 1 in the Bulgarians and Bulgaria - http: // www .extremecentrepoint.com / archives / 335

Translation required? There, and the link delivers - go - read, learn a lot about the Russians and, most importantly - the opinion of the "brothers" about them.

2 comments: "Taking into account the Ruska! Tryabva, yes you know how to attack the enemy!" Vasil Levski.

3 comments: Ako expel Muscovite dollen, and we conclude the nepotism of cunning the servant of communism in prison, we live in earthly paradise! “Naycho Tsanov

4 comments: Stiega ruski propaganda lies! Ima two types of war - conquering and defrauding! So teach and go to the Military Academy! "Liberation war" e ruska is blatantly propaganda bezsmislitsa! Come on, let's not speak Russian nonsense! ... (Enough of Russian propaganda of lies! There are two types of wars - conquest and defensive! The war of liberation is Russian blatant propaganda nonsense! Let's not talk nonsense in Russian!)

[Gennady Fomkin]

I hope the numbers have not changed today, which will save in the future from completely unnecessary gestures when shouting "Save, help!", Unjustified costs and the same unjustified hopes. And over Sofia, after the next wave of European immigration, the green banner of the Prophet Muhammad will rise, for they deserve the "brothers", they deserve it ... And this is not me, this is still Vanga prophesied.

[yuliatreb]

It is necessary to develop the economy, and not to lay pipelines and think about what will remain for future generations after such PR companies, and an effective manager for the sale of natural resources and foreign policy.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Taking into account previous and modern experience, this time Russia chose Turkey as its allies. Not satisfied. What do we react to the Bulgarians? But a good enemy is better than a bad friend.

[MAGRIB]

Quote: Rich

Turkey is Sunnis, and Iran is Shiites

Turkey is the first Muslim country to officially ban women wearing hijabs

It was Azerbaijan.
http://axc.preslib.az/ru/page/oVaKyw7qrP

[Gennady Fomkin]

When I was in Bulgaria - it was pretty curious to talk. On the one hand, they need to enter a turik from Russia, a pitcher, On the other hand, to explain why only Kozino flourishes from industry. Towards the end of the tour, the guide hated me fiercely ....

[Gennady Fomkin]

I also remembered. To place, not to place. Turks are the most pleasant people. We have this minority, but not so small. What can I say about the Turks, clean, hardworking, honest.

I knew a few and am ready to confirm. New story. Preamble to poke.