Iran strikes at US military bases

The US Department of Defense claims that Tehran has struck at military facilities held by the United States in Iraq.

According to a Pentagon spokesman, in total, more than ten missiles were fired, the purpose of which was two military bases located in Assad and Erbil, where US troops are located.

As stated in the official statement, Washington had information about the upcoming attack, and therefore brought the military personnel there on high alert. It is claimed that the damage caused by the attack is currently being assessed.

We will take all necessary measures to defend and protect US personnel, partners and allies in the region.

- explained the representative of the Pentagon.

Iranian ballistic missile launches

From Israel there are reports of bringing the troops to a state of maximum readiness.

According to CNN, White House head Donald Trump plans to address the nation. Now he is holding a meeting with the heads of relevant departments in connection with the missile strike of Iran.

According to the Iranian Press TV, the attack is the Corps of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution, which has already stated its readiness to give "more crushing answers." Operation “Martyr Suleymani” is currently underway.

Comments

[Rusik.S]

In the last topic, someone wrote that Iran will not do anything, they say they will burn the maximum flags and calm down. And it turned out like that. He also threatened the American allies (Saudis, Qatars, etc.).

[Russian Moldavian]

After the completion of the funeral of Suleimani, Iran moved from threat to action.
American bases in Iraq were fired by ballistic missiles. Several dozen rockets were launched.
The Pentagon said the attacks were carried out on the American bases of Ain al-Assad and Erbil. Strikes against Camp Taj are also reported.
There is no reliable information about the victims and destruction.
After striking, the Iranian president posted the flag of Iran on his Twitter.
It is also reported that the second wave followed the first wave of missiles.
Iraqi Shiite militia announced the launch of Operation Suppressive Response.
6 aircraft took off from the UAE air base. Iran fighters are already in the air.
The IRGC states that as soon as the US strikes Iran, Iran will attack targets in Israel.

This is the latest news so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=AIqceFxCIvo&feature=emb_logo

[Rostislav Bely]

already from Syria begin to be evacuated, pulled together to the border with Iraq

[Tatyana]

In order to predict something for the future, you still need to decide on the main participants in the Suleymani murder as subjects of politics.
There are 3 main versions of the reason for the killing of Suleimani. Choose any!

1. Version of the political scientist Igor Panarin. The blow was dealt by the "Clintonim" = "deep state". Namely, the former CIA director Brennan, who still runs the CIA department against Iran. Contractor Michael D * Andrea is the recently appointed Chief of the SPECIAL Sector for Iran with the call sign "The Dark Prince."
Technically, Israeli intelligence services tracked Suleimani’s movement, brought him to British intelligence, and the CIA struck. And Trump himself was in a state of perplexity and “shock” from surprise - and as a result, he took over everything.
The main goal of the “deep state” is if the US Democrats fail to impeach Trump, then eliminate Trump physically. as was done with Kennedy, but at the hands of the ethnic Iranians themselves, of whom about 2 million live in the United States.
And, probably, the CIA is already searching for the Iranian Lee Harvey Osald in the USA! ”
TOTAL The provocation - the murder of Suleymani - was carried out by the Clinton clan and directed against Trump himself with the goal of his physical destruction.

2. Version of the "Community of US Veterans." The customer and organizer of this crime is Israel, and specifically, Netanyahu. Moreover, in favor of this version, it is precisely the fact that on December 25.12.2019, 27, Israeli media have already disseminated information that Suleymani died during the Israeli strike on Damascus. However, after this, on December XNUMX, the Iranian news agency reported that Suleymani was alive.
It is believed that Trump just went about Netanyahu and struck this blow. By the way, in Israel, elections are also coming soon, and Netanyahu, against whom criminal cases have been instituted, is ready to do anything to disrupt the elections in Israel.

3. The third version.The murder started by Trump himself and his supporters, in order, contrary to logic, to divert attention from the attempt to impeach Trump, launched by the Democrats; raise your rating - and win the 2020 presidential election.

[Rostislav Bely]

a day ago, Bagdasarov on this topic already said:

“If I were the Chief of General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces or the commander of the IRGC, I would focus on striking the American presence in Iraq, with the task of completely driving out American forces. It would have been a colossal loss (moral, political, military - whatever) for the Americans, who at one time spent several trillion dollars, from one and a half to two trillion dollars, in an Iraqi adventure, officially lost five thousand people, in fact, much more " , - he wrote in his Telegram channel.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Rostislav White

a day ago, Bagdasarov on this topic already said:

“If I were the Chief of General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces or the commander of the IRGC, I would focus on striking the American presence in Iraq, with the task of completely driving out American forces. It would have been a colossal loss (moral, political, military - whatever) for the Americans, who at one time spent several trillion dollars, from one and a half to two trillion dollars, in an Iraqi adventure, officially lost five thousand people, in fact, much more " , - he wrote in his Telegram channel.

In this case, Trump will no longer be the president of the United States! Namely.
Either Trump will be impeached, or they will also kill him!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Tatiana

Either Trump will be impeached, or they will also kill him!

Do they get used to it? At Kennedy, the technology was run in ...

[krot]

Well done Iranians! I was waiting for which country would tire of enduring all the bullying and killing by the United States. Now Trump will think next time what to say and what to do. Yes, and any Anglo-Saxon warriors are sucks .. Viva Iran!
And many on the site said that Iran has a small intestine, I suspect that they are Sumerians.)

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: krot

Well done Iranians! I was waiting for which country would get tired of enduring all the bullying and killing by the United States.

If it were we - World War III on a silver platter. And so ...

American children in American schools are taught that they won the Second World War. So they were afraid of the Third being afraid of them? ......

[nPuBaTuP]

Either Trump will be impeached, or they will also kill him!

Or there is a third version :))
Trump is re-elected for a second term

[Tatyana]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

Either Trump will be impeached, or they will also kill him!

Or there is a third version :))
Trump is re-elected for a second term

Generally U.S. Congress opposes Trump declaring war on Iran without the consent of U.S. Congress members. This worked to impeach Trump.
And on the other hand, if military operations in Iraq between Iran and the US go too far, then, as you know, they do not change the horses at the crossing. It may turn out that you are right. Trump may be re-elected for a 2nd term.
However, everything will depend on who, how and with what will "process" these congressmen to the desired opinion on the recognition of the legitimacy of the US declaration of war on Iran.

[hydrox]

It seems that the world will not suffer, if Trump loses :: Donik has already done enough to catch the world and take a little rest from it.
I must say that Donya shook the foundations of global peace enough not to talk about repairs anymore :: it's time to talk about perestroika (let's say, about redevelopment of relations)

[jovanni]

Give Semyon Arkadevich as the successor to the commander!

[Zoldat_A]

Vietnam 2.0 or World 3 ...?

[Tatyana]

Hello, Alexey! Glad to see you!
!

Quote: Zoldat_A

Vietnam 2.0 or World 3 ...?

It is hardly just "Vietnam 2." The assassination of Soleimani is regarded as a challenge to the entire Muslim world from the United States, Britain and Israel.
And this is pulling more on TMV.

[Zoldat_A]

[quote = Tatiana] Hardly just "Vietnam 2" .. The assassination of Suleimani is regarded as a challenge to the entire Muslim world from the United States, Britain and Israel. [/ quote]
For the world - as they say in the States, "WW3". For America -

[/ quote] As of mid-2008, there were 58 Americans who died, died from wounds and diseases, went missing (this figure is gradually increasing after the end of the war, since it includes military personnel who died years and even decades after the consequences of the fighting wounds). Of these, 220 people were lost as a result of the enemy’s actions, and 47 people were non-combat losses (died in traffic accidents, in incidents with weapons, died from illnesses, committed suicide) As of mid-434, dead, died from wounds and illnesses 10 Americans were missing (this figure is gradually increasing after the end of the war, as it includes military personnel who died years and even decades from the effects of military injuries). Of these, 786 people were lost as a result of the enemy’s actions, and 2008 people were non-combat losses (died in traffic accidents, in incidents with weapons, died from illnesses, committed suicide) -Wikipedia] [/ quote]
There are not so many in Iraq yet. In Afghanistan, we have already caught up with ours.

How many plastic crates does America need to calm down?

[Kondratko]

How many plastic crates does America need to calm down?

- Probably most of the previously made for their own needs:
"Why do Americans need 500000 plastic coffins?"
https://topwar.ru/9410-zachem-amerikancam-500000-plastikovyh-grobov.html

[hydrox]

Perhaps TMT does not fit into the amer-Muslim relations (the rest of the world is no less tired of Trump than Muslims, but this is not a reason to trump Quartet (oh, as I understand the ayatoll !!)).
But from time to time it would be necessary to throw a straitjacket on it and tie it to the bed for the duration of haloperidol (exchange rate in small doses once a quarter) - you look, and the imperative will change if not by humility, then at least by obedience!

[bar]

The killing of Suleimani is regarded as a challenge to the entire Muslim world from the United States, Britain and Israel.
And this is pulling more on TMV.

Do not exaggerate. "The entire Muslim world" are still spiders in the bank. In reality, Iran's Shiites have minimal support in the east, so the "Muslim world" represented by the Saudis or Qatar will also be for the striped ones. Vietnam may well be able to reach the second, although it is also unlikely. It is unlikely that Trump's adventure will be supported in the United States itself.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Vietnam 2.0 or World 3 ...?

It looks more like the 3rd world is moving into the hot phase ...

[mark2]

Neither one nor the other.
The Americans will soon try to negotiate with Iran. And Ayatollah will suddenly become a great guy like Eun.
Because the fleet cannot be pulled in time. While they will tighten, Iran, if not pissed off, will destroy the nearby military bases. And the Hebrews will get what they run into for a long time.

[Dude]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Vietnam 2.0 or World 3 ...?

Think WW III

[nPuBaTuP]

Good morning Tatyana
All your versions are viable, and as I think there are still many versions ..... And they can also inspire confidence .....
But in connection with Iran’s attacks, everyone doesn’t care about these versions ... THE FIGHT has begun and who will be right and who will be blamed (if this does not lead to a global carnage) after ....
According to all versions, Trump has already taken responsibility for himself and the United States ... so Iran and all Shiites have, if you can call it that "national idea" ... Just then Donald Fedorovich ... 52 objects in sight ..... the man said, the man did
That is, the return line will arrive unambiguously ..... Trump is unlikely to wash and get off the conversation ....
So the morning may turn out to be not entirely good

[Tatyana]

Greetings. you, Nikolai!
Definitely - this is a war! The only question is how, when and how it will end.

[nPuBaTuP]

As Vladimir wrote a little lower, there are two options .... long-term sweeping or ground operation ... or maybe as an option, our descendants will consider this date as the beginning of the Third World ... See for yourself, the Sultan has soaped itself into Libya. In any situation, the Strait of Hormuz will be closed. Ukraine is smoldering. Syria and Yemen are smoking. In Latinos, too, graters among themselves ....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Tatiana

Greetings. you, Nikolai!
Definitely - this is a war! The only question is how, when and how it will end.

I hope our "big caps" are smart enough to fight not as boys, but with missiles ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I hope our "big caps" are smart enough to fight not as boys, but with missiles ...

Oh, as they say, your words to God, ears in the ears!
May God hear this and may it be so!

[ABM]

And us for what?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ABM

And us for what?

Do you think that the Third World War - whoever and wherever it started - will do without ours?

Whoever starts the war - Russia ends them. Too bad the graves. But, it is clear that the price is RUSSIAN.

[ABM]

Ours under no circumstances will fit into this war. I bet you. Good to invent. World War I perfectly finished.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ABM

Ours under no circumstances will fit into this war.

Your words, yes to God in ears ...

Have to get involved. No empire has ever fought on its own. Draw everyone they can.

Again the grave. We will survive, we are strong.

[ABM]

Yes, this is not a war. While tankers go along the Strait of Hormuz

[region58]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Have to

Definitely. Immediate southern borders. If you want, you don’t want, but you have to.

[Vadim237]

I can bet that Russia will help Iran with weapons and intelligence.

[ABM]

why's that? sense to help Iran? so that they capitulate in a month, and not in two weeks? well, if tankers will sink ...

[Vadim237]

What does he capitulate to - before the American raids? The US ground operation will be too tough for Iran to be four times larger than Iraq in terms of area and population and terrain there is quite complicated: deserts, hills, mountains, forest belts, gorges, all American bases within a radius of 2000 kilometers under the gun of Iran’s cruise missile and cruise missile drones , and their air defense recently proved to be capable of shooting down high-altitude strategic reconnaissance drones. And the attack today showed that the Amer’s air defense in the region is an empty place.

[ABM]

yes they have these missiles ... they are also under sanctions, aviation - antediluvian F-14 and ancient, like Mr. mammoth, F-4 and F-5, about a hundred pieces fly from this whole zoo. Air defense is the same story. Their local guardsmen - the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps" - are to scare their opps only, like we have the Russian Guard ...

[Vadim237]

They have these missiles — thousands and an embargo that only applies to arms sales, Iran’s GDP of 180 billion a year is free trade with dozens of countries of the world — they have been developing and making rockets for 20 years already, and they have close ties with the DPRK.

[classic46]

Russia, China, India, Azerbaijanis are now actively muddying infrastructure projects including railway transportation bypassing any straits. In addition, Iran is the cornerstone in the stability of the Caspian, Caucasus and BV. Again, an observer and participant in all kinds of SCO, BRICS, etc. Organizations. Without it, everything that was previously achieved in Syria will simply lose its meaning, because we have gained a foothold and we are not there without the help of Iran and its mercenaries. After all, this is the Shiite axis that the Americans are so afraid of with the British and Israel (Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon ). Yes, and an alliance with the Iranians opens up Iraq and the opportunity to influence the price of oil.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vadim237

I can bet that Russia will help Iran with weapons and intelligence.

The most interesting thing is that some 40 years ago it was the other way around.

In life what ....

[Tamparu]

And how about two more versions, a little crazy ....
fourteen). In the murder of Suleimani, not only Sasha and Israel are "covered up", but also other world players. Maybe he crossed the road to someone? Such can be in Iran itself ...
2. (5). Suleimani is not killed. They killed someone else ... And then you can twist a bunch of versions ...
Sincerely,

[Tatyana]

I don’t know anything about the 4th option.
And about the 5th option. Killed really Sulejmani. He is identified by his ring on the hand of the slain.

[Tamparu]

Can't a ring be put on another person’s hand? And I do not think that it was difficult to find a person among Muslims who would voluntarily go for it ....
But there was no other evidence that this was really Sulejmani in the media ....
Something like this....

[Tatyana]

There was a photo on the Internet - I saw him. A hand on the elbow with a ring on the finger is well preserved, practically not damaged.
And they are also looking for a possible "mole" among Suleimani's entourage, and this version is also being checked. But nothing has been heard about the results of this search yet.

[Tamparu]

The hand on the elbow of a person is almost the same for everyone, if you do not dive deeply, making anthropometric measurements ... And if there are no additional distinctive features (scar, mole, etc.), then it will be very difficult to prove that he is that person , and not another .. Is that just a fingerprint ...
As for the "mole" ... if there is one ... Then he is not alone, this is unambiguous ... And if they are found, then we will never know about it ...
Best regards,

[jovanni]

Quote: TampaRU

Suleimani is not killed. They killed someone else ... And then you can twist a bunch of versions ...

Yeah, Elvis is alive. Foreve !!!

[Tamparu]

Jovanni (Evgenevgen) Today, 21: 38

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Quote: TampaRU
Suleimani is not killed. They killed someone else ... And then you can twist a bunch of versions ...

Yeah, Elvis is alive. Foreve !!!

Good evening...
You know, but irony in this case is not very appropriate ... At all times, the fate of countries and millions of people is ruled by a small handful of people, one of whose tools are the special services ... And Suleimani "ruled" one of them, and accordingly knew the rules of existence inside them and, therefore, could not so easily substitute ... Therefore, I have such doubts about this event ...
But, this is my subjective opinion ....
Sincerely,

[jovanni]

And good evening to you. Well, yes, apparently you are right about the irony. And about substituted, not substituted, anything can happen. Look, the GRU is an organization that is in no way inferior in authority to the "guards", how many leaders it has lost is strange enough. Deputy Chief Ivanov, generally drowned in Syria while swimming. Even drones were not needed ... However, this is also subjective.
Sincerely

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Tatiana

3. Third version. The killing was started by Trump himself and his supporters, in order, contrary to logic, to divert attention from the attempt to impeach Trump, launched by the Democrats; raise your rating - and win the 2020 presidential election

If it's Trump, then it's the other way around. Trump promised to withdraw troops from the BV and made attempts, but the Clintonites and the Pentagon sabotaged. If Iran strikes at all bases, the US Armed Forces will be removed from the BV and Trump will fulfill the election promises.

. Raise your rating

Raise the rating of the arrival of the coffins ..... what are you talking about?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Raise the rating of the arrival of the coffins ..... what are you talking about?

Firstly, this is on my version. And not my versions at all. I just listed the 3 most common versions of the reasons for the killing of Iranian General Suleimani, which revolve in circulation. It’s just that I, from a distance, presented them to the participants for discussion, without imposing my own opinion on anyone.

My opinion. I am sure that the ears of Israel in the murder of Sulejmani are EXACTLY !.

And secondly. In the 3rd version there is already a reservation to which you did not pay attention.

contrary to logic

In other words, including contrary to Trump's campaign promises. Or vice versa, according to decisive military actions to instill American-Israeli nationalist Zionists in the form of a lightning war, force the enemy into peace.
Few such politicians?
Zelensky, for example. He said one thing, but the real balance of political forces in the country makes him follow the Banderaites and make a "good" face in a bad game.

[bayard]

Of course, the first version is the most realistic, but I think that in reality we observed a combination of the first two options. That is, the Clinton clan, in coordination with Netanyahu, prepared and carried out this operation, and Trump was given arguments by both the US intelligence services and Israel.
But this is no longer important, the war seems to have already begun.

[lucul]

After the completion of the funeral of Suleimani, Iran moved from threat to action.

It looks like a fake - other media - are silent.

[Russian Moldavian]

Unfortunately the truth

[SSR]

Quote: Russian Moldovan

After striking, the Iranian president posted the flag of Iran on his Twitter.

And also in the official message, with disrespect and with a small letter, but how exactly noticed.

«We warn the great Satan, the vicious American regime that any further aggression will meet a more painful and brutal reaction, ”the text reads.

I wonder if they were titled "small"?))

[atalef]

Quote from S.S.R.

“We warn the great Satan, the vicious American regime that any further aggression will meet a more painful and brutal reaction,” the text reads.

words separately - deeds - separately. not iron point

A US military source told CNN that the US military received an “early warning” about an Iranian missile attack.
The officer said that base personnel had been evacuated to bunkers in advance.
The Iranian military spokesman also said that contrary to earlier statements, there are no casualties among the Iraqi military at the attacked bases.

Trump will not warn

[SSR]

Quote: atalef

words separately - deeds - separately. not iron point

Come on. They acted according to etiquette, reported that they were attacking, not everyone was like Hitler to become like.

Quote: atalef

Trump will not warn

That's right.
For all this, however, many small countries are surprised by Iran, and you also understand this very well. There are Canadians, sharp as diarrhea in words and in fact turned out to be quick.)))

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Russian Moldovan

After striking, the Iranian president posted the flag of Iran on his Twitter.

It turns out he also has a sense of humor)) Trump troll)))

[YOUR]

13 missiles were launched.
The picture shows the launch of the S-75 air defense missile system, from which what was the ballistic missile made of?

[CERBERFOL]

Iran was ahead of the curve. Anyway, striped can no longer be stopped. Not only did the US kill the general, they immediately began to prepare for the attack. Surely aug to Iran dug. If that starts, Israel will be the most important bully

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: CERBERFOL

Surely aug to Iran dug. If that starts, Israel will be the most important bully

aircraft carriers David the Great and Izzy the First are already sailing to Iran.

[Thrifty]

Maki Avellevich -first, only the fictitious masses are floating, and secondly, your Aaianos people have become tight-rumored to have caught pace for reefs

[classic46]

On one such aircraft carrier of personnel 4-6k, if American mothers drown it, they will raise such a howl that the war will be waged. In principle, America is still raging with anti-war rallies.

[hydrox]

You see, "Marshal Ustinov" is already there ...
Whether he flanks through the Mediterranean or enters the Persian Gulf - this great mystery is ...
But I think that a couple of Iran’s air bases are ready to receive a regiment or other Tu-22M3M and the same number of Su-35s ...
What the Bears will be doing at this time is still unknown to the shirnarmass.

[hydrox]

You look at how liberoids do not like it when someone somewhere suddenly decided to impede the US terrorist democracy - the rating immediately went wrong!
For reference: Tu-22M3M is indeed armed with a "yagren-loaf", which really converts the entire AUG into a cloud of steam - and this is the Kh-102.

[region58]

Quote: hydrox

the whole AUG is turned into a cloud of steam

Can be more? Well, there: the power of the warhead, the radius of the destruction, from what distance it is supposed to launch, who will give the target designation, the radius of the AWACS AUG, the radius of the AUG itself, well, and other mutoten? And then, you see, at headquarters all heads were broken in search of counteraction to the AUG.
PS I hope the picture is familiar?

The distance between the ships is hundreds of kilometers.
Agree, this is a bit unlike a beautiful hiking order:

[hydrox]

Yes brother, problem ...
First, for your headquarters, you need to bring fresh sand into the sandboxes - then we'll see HOW creativity will behave ...

[region58]

Quote: hydrox

Yes brother, problem ...

Nothing. Will you share your hats? Throw the adversaries ...

[hydrox]

Obligatory! But first, let's draw up a network-centric legend and silently think a little "over her leader!"
Oh, mining HERE
pancake
did not wait
We need
Go home! "

[CERBERFOL]

Power 100 gigatons. Targeting from the Star Destroyer, a strike is delivered from the orbit of the Moon by the Death Star

[region58]

Quote: CERBERFOL

strike from the orbit of the moon by the Death Star

No, the Death Star bullets to others:

Armament:
Central guide superlaser, heavy duty. Rate of fire of the first station - 1 shot per day, second - 1 shot in 3 minutes;
8 high-precision superlasers (are components of the main superlaser);
5 laser batteries;
5 heavy laser batteries;
25 laser guns;
25 ion cannons;
936 capture beam generators / spotlights

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: CERBERFOL

Iran was ahead of the curve. Anyway, striped can no longer be stopped.

Iran, unfortunately, did not take the lead. He, unlike the United States, could keep parity. It was the States, who were lousy in the bathhouse, who were eager for a war with Iran - Iraq became fewer. That will run into Vietnam 2.0 or WW3

[hydrox]

Yes, 45 years have passed since the end of the Second Indochina War, and the United States has already forgotten the anti-militant speeches of its population, actions of disobedience and rallies of indignation, and will again overthrow it to fight on a new level. And it seems to them that they have become many times stronger, more modern, more deadly, more perfect ...
But they forgot that losses will begin only when the infantry conquers space, without which there is never a victory in a war, no matter how obvious this victory is. And then again the coffins will go under the star-striped flags, the hatred for Pr-vu will rise again, the protests and rallies of disobedience will begin again - all this has already happened and the US government thinks that this can be avoided.
No, this is already incorrigible, because it grows at the genetic level.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: hydrox

it seems to them that they have become many times stronger, more modern, more deadly, more perfect ...

It is interesting that it seems to every aspirant to world domination.

Only Russia convinces them of the opposite.

Quote: hydrox

coffins again will go under star-striped flags, hatred for Pr-vu will rise again, protests and disobedience rallies will start again - all this has already happened and America’s leadership thinks that this can be avoided.
No, this is already incorrigible, because it grows at the genetic level.

They don’t even look at their star-striped ass ...

[hydrox]

And you don't think that red-stripedness is a genetic sign - traces of physical impact, when the mind was hammered in with rods through the "backward Cyrillic", and you see, they beat so hard that even after 200 years the nonsense appears on the state lag ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: hydrox

45 years have passed since the end of the Second Indochina War, and the United States has already forgotten the anti-militant speeches of its population, insubordination actions and rallies of indignation, and it will again overthrow it to fight at a new level

They forgot to watch their own pseudo-documentary film Threads (1984) - it tells THEIR SAME, to which America’s attempts to protect ALIEN oil, which they consider the United States as democratic, lead to. 310 megatons only to the United Kingdom ...

And THIS 1984, year, CARL !!!!!

Recomend for everybody.

[hydrox]

It’s clear they’ll run into: so we won’t stand aside: it’s clear that our weapons are more perfect and they will suffer such damage that even arrange a Marshall plan for them, but on the other hand, what the hell out of a wood saber against a crowbar - we’ll probably get enough for us, but we’ll make at least one enemy disabled (in the sense of statehood, we won’t think that it’s very difficult to do this: see what happens when they are led by the Yankees -Adult will take over the Donbass)

[smile]

Rusik.S (Ruslan
They had no choice.
Rather, the Americans did not leave him to them.
Given the mentality and rhetoric.
When the Turks shot down our plane and killed one of the pilots, ours mixed hundreds of Turkoman with rubble, burned thousands of carpenters along with the carriers, including the Turks. Etc. etc., and the statement about tomatoes here looked like idleness, although, of course, here they were pressed with money.
The Turks received as they did not receive from anyone over the past seventy years ..
But we did it ... uh ... well, like the north wind - it is known where - it seems that it doesn’t exist ... without big words. And it just ... is ... :)))))
We had a field for maneuver, because there was no extremely rigid rhetoric .. well, there were still nuances ...
Iran will not succeed. For different reasons.
It was already quite difficult for Iran to defend its interests in the region.
(I don’t even want to try to discuss these very interests of theirs, since they do not always coincide with ours.)
Now Iran will have no easier time. To put it mildly.
Hands will be untied at all.
If the American current leadership, which - the left leg does not know. what the right leg is doing, but all together they condemn the head, in which indeed, any winds walk, it’s not completely crazy - they will not invade Iran.
Begin to hammer with combined strokes.
Israel, most likely, also join the aviation and missile component.
Gouging Iran seriously enough, they can. But not to the end.
Win without a land operation - no.
But the ground operation for them - as one of my five-year-old acquaintances says - zop. Unless, of course, they bought the power part of the Iranian leadership as much as they did in Iraq.
And on the other hand, Iran will also be able to inflict quite limited damage on them. Which will not affect anything. .
The direct losses that Iran can inflict are entirely uncritical for its main enemies.
Yes, mostly satellite satellites will pay.
In any case, Israel will benefit - they are any weakening (and war is always weakening) of a single country, from the neighbors, which they perceive as a potential serious threat - for the good.
Even if a certain number of Israelis perish, Israel and its leadership will not care. Regardless of who and how much they pile in Iran and receive it themselves. Moreover, they will receive clearly less ..
So it goes.
I don’t know if the Iranians will go to block the Gulf of Hormuz - in any case, it will not give them anything but moral satisfaction - Iran will not be able to seriously catch its two main (according to their statements) enemies. No way.
a certain amount of losses - yes. Even not especially important - which - which is several hundred. that several thousand - and the United States and Israel - do not care. They will survive how they survived the strange loss in an hour of almost three thousand people who knows. Unless, of course, the Americans lose their minds and climb to the field now. But they are not fools, they will not climb. They will hammer for years, like Iraq, and then do the same with it - it is clear how. Although, of course, in this situation, a complete arms embargo is unlikely to succeed.
A certain amount of material damage - yes.
seriously put the letter ЗУ - no. No way.
So it goes.
But I want to make a mistake and see that those who unleash a conflict will pay for it.

[Skarpzd]

I completely agree.

[Maalkavianin]

In my opinion there was no information anywhere that thousands of Turkoman and bulkheads mixed with rubble mixed ours. As far as I remember, they shot off somewhere in the neighboring bushes, where these same Turkmens were supposedly once and all.

[smile]

Maalkavianin
Hello.
You are mistaken, Miklos.
For a long time, the positions of precisely those comrades were targeted purposefully, both by air and by massive missile and artillery attacks on our guidance.
If it weren’t for the plane, they wouldn’t be slaughtered like that - then ISIS was still alive, banned in all sane countries, the destruction of which was the main focus.
And you can’t but know about the columns of burnt down cobblers. Our aircraft and the Turks, who fell under the blows, were littering with photos and a video about their sad fate would all be thrown.
When a person is mistaken, this is not scary, and not bad. We are all mistaken.
But when a person deliberately lies, it’s bad.
Thank you for attention.

[Maalkavianin]

If as you say, then I am only glad that Turkey did not get off with just some tomatoes. Judging just by the publications of that time.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Malkavianin

If as you say, then I am only glad that Turkey did not get off with just some tomatoes. Judging just by the publications of that time.

"Ironed" for 8 hours: three leaders of IS militants were killed in the crash zone of the Su-24

https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2691457&cid=520

[Thrifty]

Few rockets fired! The United States needs to be crushed like cockroaches!

[hydrox]

Please do not forget that Iran is not so rich that it can measure hundreds of missiles: for him, piece by piece, it’s already ruin.

[Skarpzd]

there are a lot of people who do not understand this from the word at all.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Iran, and not only him, now does not seem enough.
The Americans achieved their goal - provoked a war. The imperialist aggressors are bad.
All this will not end in good ...

[Bar2]

successes to you soldiers of Islam, America is the country of victorious Satanism, beat them.

[Ramzay121]

Thus, he finally condemned himself.

[Win1945]

Only a Russian girl can do nothing. Iranian authorities from another test.

[megadeth]

I agree with you, I was one of them ... But how strange it all looks. The Persian missiles were moving along a ballistic trajectory (emphasized Persian), even for the Patriot an easy target. All AFAF in the Middle East at least in the WSBG since January 3. It looks like a contract ... Nevertheless, we are in the forefront of this show ..

[NEXUS]

Quote: Rusik.S

In the last topic, someone wrote that Iran will not do anything, they say they will burn the maximum flags and calm down.

Iran, I think, would not have done if it had not received support for this act from one of the main players, the Russian Federation and China. In fact, striking at US bases is a declaration of war on the hegemons. But such steps are simply not taken from the ceiling. I am sure that Iran will not stop at this blow. And therefore, I won’t be surprised if our and Chinese equipment in very substantial quantities appear very quickly in Iran.

[Tahtvjd2868]

This is the end of Iran as an independent state. Trump now has carte blanche for EVERYTHING.

[Rostislav Bely]

trump impeachment ...

[maidan.izrailovich]

This is the end of Iran ...

Now the fate of Iran depends on Russia.
If we support, as Vietnam in due time, then Iran will have good chances of victory.
If not supported, then no options. Iran will certainly last longer than Iraq or Libya, but the US military and economic power will still outweigh.
ps Russia is simply obliged to support Iran.

[Skarpzd]

I don’t quite understand why we need to support Iran. allies? well no. Yes, and how to support it? the military? do we need it? resources? so they themselves have nothing to spare. and too much is not observed at all. unless from all sorts of political sites? it's possible. but we won’t find much weight and support there.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Skarpzd

I don’t quite understand why we need to support Iran. allies?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
It is possible / necessary to support Iran simply against the USA!
Iran does not have a lot of striking means against the USA.
I suppose they won’t be able to drown AB or Burke.
As a result, they will be given their air defense, simply by crushing the number of missiles, and then they will be in the air as in Yugoslavia.
For months!

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Victor_B

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

And let's prove that this statement is false ?! here the US has an enemy of ISIS by your logic, once they are enemies of the United States, then we are allies? but they are enemies for us too! hence your statement is false, and consequently Iran is not a "friend" to us, although it is not an enemy for us either.

[Victor_B]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

the USA has an enemy ISIS

Was ...
Declared.
Enraged by the Frankenstein generated by them. They were forced to crumble, but somehow specifically - up to the evacuation of these barmalei from the environment with their helicopters.

[igorbrsv]

Igil for usa is a friend, not an enemy

[Dart2027]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

the USA has an enemy ISIS

Yeah ... Such an enemy that until our VKS did not take action from the bombing of the United States there was no sense at all.

[hydrox]

You yourself would not use false statements: indeed, ISIS is our enemy, but a clinical enemy (i.e., no options). And for the United States, ISIS are situational enemies, very often the States became the roof of the barmaley, and sometimes even the savior angels, taking them by helicopter to Idlib and elsewhere for "re-grinding".
Or take the Kurds: now these are slaves of amers in the extraction of Syrian oil in Der ez-Zor using feudal methods in favor of the amers, but at the right time the Americans fled, leaving the Kurds in the form of thieves in the oil fields - and then the Syrians will not let their own way and will give the Kurds a light - "goodbye, autonomy!"
But I hope you didn’t forget that Iran was a friend of Syria (as well as the fact that Putin was on an unannounced visit to the SAR yesterday (I wonder what he flew there with?), And should he meet with his grandmother on Saturday)?

[alexddd]

ISIS is not an enemy of the United States but a child.

[SSR]

Quote: Skarpzd

I don’t quite understand why we need to support Iran. allies?

+

Quote: Victor_B

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

There, the Israelis are excited about the Sheburshat, they expect a gesheft, but in such a situation? As for me, Russia should remain in the role of Arbiter and Mitrotvorets, and let the Egyptians, Turks, Persians, Arabs balance the forces in the region among themselves. In especially zealous ones, until the yushka flows under the nose, they will not calm down.
PS.
China may begin to supply weapons, purely for combat verification of air defense systems, other systems, through the paths of Pakistan.

[_Sergei_]

Just by saying "the enemy of my enemy is a friend". Maybe a temporary friend, but a friend.

[smile]

Skarpzd (Eugene Kuzbass)
Sorry, I do not quite agree.
We can support them. And we have so many resources. that in any global war itself we won’t have time to spend, even if we try hard ... :)))
But you are right in another way - why do we need this? There is no meaning for our country.
Just weakening our adversary, who has long formally called us the enemy?
To some extent, yes.
But precisely - "to some extent", no more.
I am sure that our leadership has a completely pragmatic position and we will not sink to "fraternal help". And over the past fifteen years, our leadership has proven this.
Of course, we had jambs - it’s clear where. In places it hurts and offends. But in general, from the point of view of the state of Russia, everything was done correctly.
Although, of course, sometimes, here and there, sometimes :)))) we should have responded more timely.

[Skarpzd]

So I’m actually talking about this))

[smile]

Skarpzd
And so I totally agreed with you.
But I vigilantly re-read your and my comments .... :))) and yes, I made sure that I agree. :))))
But I found one disagreement! —About the resources. :)))) Forgive me, graphomaniac. :))))

[Skarpzd]

I don’t mind. have your opinion. there is mine. and honestly I would like my opinion to be erroneous.

[hydrox]

Quote: smile

But in general, from the point of view of the state of Russia, everything was done correctly.

So after all, if "in general", then it should be "from the point of view of the people" (but not the state !!!).
Actually, according to the Constitution, the people are the source of power, and it is he who must determine the social orientation of the ACTIONS and FUNCTIONS of the state, and not anyone from the outside ...

[fraders]

Iran needs to be supported so that Amer airbases do not appear there, which then cannot be bought back :)

[ABM]

If Iran blocks the straits, the price of oil will rise! According to the recalculation formula - for gas too

[nPuBaTuP]

Now the fate of Iran depends on Russia ......
Russia is simply obliged to support Iran.

Oh, I don’t want to .... but this mess will not pass us by

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Now the fate of Iran depends on Russia.
If we support, as Vietnam in due time, then Iran will have good chances of victory.

How do we support it? Bare back scare the Americans?
We will support in Ukraine, in Syria we will support, we will support our oligarchs, who else to support? And most importantly, what and who will pay for it?
"Where is Zin's money?" - as VS Vysotsky used to say.
There is more hope for help from China, Turkey, maybe even Pakistan ...

[hydrox]

And let me find out, for what reason did you need to support the Russian oligarchs?
Of course, it’s yours, but they already own 80% of the cost of the Russian state, where do they seem to have more?

[Bar2]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

Russia is simply obliged to support Iran.

Russia then supports Iran, but Mr. Putin, he has a difficult situation, remember how Putin betrayed Donbas? I'm afraid the same thing will happen now.

[Tersky]

Quote: Bar2

Remember how Putin betrayed Donbas?

I do not remember and not only me. Can you share with the people in detail - when, how to whom and for how much? I read this (I apologize for the comparison) nonsense and understand, one hope is for Elon Musk, who will nevertheless transport such "guardians" to Mars. But, apparently, he is a swindler and this will not happen.

[Bar2]

Quote: Tersky

I don’t remember, and not just me.

why such a short memory? But the thing was just that in the year 14. Putin did not want to send troops in Donbas, and then there would be no bloody war, but he did not introduce a war between the Russians and Bandera, and you already forgot about it.

[Tersky]

Quote: Bar2

Putin did not want to send troops Donbas and then there would be no bloody war, but did not introduce

Holidays are over, stop hungover.

[alexddd]

To be more precise, the president asked permission of the Federation Council to send troops into Ukraine. Federation Council allowed. The President did not exercise this right. Maybe for the better.

[mark2]

This is how Russian support for Iran will help break the economic power of the United States, which are located overseas?
Only a direct attack on decision centers can shake something.

[sniperino]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

Russia is simply obliged to support Iran

In theory, Iran should be supported by Russia, Turkey and China, because, after Iran is excluded from the list of the main players in the BV, these countries are next in line.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Tahtvjd2868

Trump now has carte blanche for EVERYTHING.

Iran, however, also.

[Rostislav Bely]

cool trumpets trumpets - posted the Iranian flag on Twitter ...

[Skarpzd]

there’s maybe a carte blanche .... only there would still be OMP for it whatever the means of delivery and intercontinental .... while there is no threat of continental AI - they do not care

[Same lech]

And if this is not the end of Iran, but the end of Trump ... suddenly the war will take a protracted character ... and Trump has elections on the nose ... and the American voter will take and vote for Sanders ... who is categorically against the attack on Iran.
So don’t say gop until you jump over.
It’s easy to start a war, but God knows how it will end ...
could Hitler attacking the USSR suggest that he would have to shoot himself in the end?

[Rostislav Bely]

Several airplanes were destroyed at the airbase mattresses (air defense for them does not work as standard)

[Same lech]

It is logical to expect a response from the United States ... heh heh, then again an Iranian response ... well, and how then to stop Trump's provocation leading the world straight into the abyss.

[Rostislav Bely]

You cannot put an ax in the ass for each camel, the navel will become a glass - with a massive attack of "tachanoks" someone will feel bad

[Vladimir_2U]

The ax must be written in quotation marks !!!

Quote: Rostislav Bely

You can’t put an ax in the ass for every camel

At first I thought that you were a connoisseur of Arabic proverbs and sayings!

[Rostislav Bely]

tomahawk is an ax, and Zarathushtra is translated as an old camel

[ABM]

Ballistic missiles, difficult to intercept

[Rostislav Bely]

not everyone understood your sarcasm))))

[sniperino]

Quote: ABM

Ballistic missiles, difficult to intercept

Amer’s air defense confidently only works on lighting missiles?

[region58]

Quote: sniperino

only works on lighting rockets?

And what about the rest then? They are not visible.

[sniperino]

Quote: region58

They are not visible

And all because without a parachute they fly too fast. You can impose sanctions for exceeding not only range but also speed ... or impose? In general, there is a reason to impose.

[mark2]

And by the way, yes. Then the people as soon as they got hungry, watering the domestic C300 and C400 yesterday after an article on the teachings of air defense mattresses of supposedly C300 systems. And why is this not heard of US air defense? And do they even have that? I’ve strained my memory here, and I didn’t remember a single case when the US air defense was working against a missile attack.

[Grits]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

And if this is not the end of Iran but the end to Trump ... suddenly the war will take a protracted character

It will be able to acquire such a character only if the Iranian air defense system is effective enough to shoot down American missiles, or even better, planes. At least the way the Syrian air defense did when Trump decided to scare them. In this case, Trump's "beautiful and smart missiles" may simply run out faster than the Tomahawk air defense missiles. After all, a similar situation was already in Yugoslavia, when Milosevic surrendered already at the moment when NATO members had practically nothing to shell the country with.

[hydrox]

Iran has some kind of air defense, but it does exist (I would not be surprised that the S-400 with the battalion also got in the way), so an attack by aircraft is unlikely, so after all, the exits to the launch lines of the Axes m blocked by "Ustinov" (somewhere there he is, and he had better not get into the field of action).
But I think that Ustinov will always be between the AUG and Iran (only how is he alone there?)

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Gritsa

if Iran’s air defense is effective enough

judging by recent events, Iran needs to break closer to the territory of the mericatos and pull a couple of missiles .... because the Amer’s air defense / missile defense is extremely ineffective, the victory is guaranteed !!!

[hydrox]

There simply cannot be a lingering character: no one at all is interested in prolonging the conflict, all the more so since Donika is now being pressed so hard that he should let him not flatten!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Tahtvjd2868

Trump now has carte blanche for EVERYTHING.

the hands themselves ... and their allies in the region are the same ... over there the Houthis in slippers are chasing the Saudis, who spend hundreds of billions on "military" !!! what is the end of independent Iran? as if Iran were not gouging a couple of states-litter of the Americans !!!

[Tahtvjd2868]

Correctly set emoticons - they knock on their empty heads .. Remember my koment a month later

[alexddd]

He opened here a nisys map of the Middle East. The territory of Iran as five territories of Germany is 1 thousand sq. Km against 648 thousand sq. Km. The terrain is mountainous. I think that strategic warehouses and command posts are deep in the mountains. Iran will withstand even a nuclear strike. Now is the era of the territories. Try to throw cruise or other missiles onto such an area. According to probability theory, damage tends to zero as the territory tends to increase. Navy is not enough, yes. But remembering our heroes (for example, A. Marinescu), you realize that with three diesel-electric submarines you can sink a couple of troughs, which are aircraft carriers and other enemy ships. And when they hit Iran, sleeping agents in aggressor states may wake up. I think they will go along the way as with the DPRK, they will begin to make peace. And the satellite countries in the Middle East of the United States will easily sacrifice if it reaches the slaughter. There G. Kissinger has long been broadcasting about 357 .....

[Hexagon]

Hmm ... It didn’t work for Marvelous with the Russian Federation and Ukraine - they carried out a backup plan with Iran. The peddlers of democracy damn it.

[svp67]

Well? "The soul flew to heaven ..." Trump has been looking for someone to fight with for so long that he seems to have found ...

[Same lech]

Trump has been looking for someone to fight with for so long that he seems to have found ...

A pig got into a shit from a year of a pig, and there rats from a year of a rat ... biting and furious ... here you go

[SSR]

Quote: svp67

Well? "The soul flew to heaven ..." Trump has been looking for someone to fight with for so long that he seems to have found ...

They have such a tradition, each president must take part in the war, dip his hands in blood, such an initiative is such a ghoul
PS.
What’s there Wang vanga, fire from heaven in the Middle East?

[Edmond dantes]

Nostradamus predicted that the TMV would begin in the east.

[hydrox]

Found something found, but found a bunch of adventures, it seems, not only on his own, but also on the same and his state-va - will also get!

[Pessimist22]

Here comes the war ...

[Skarpzd]

it seems like that. and it’s bad that Iran has practically no chance to inflict unacceptable damage on staff with allies. crush only due to resource potential.

[Same lech]

Yah ... like the Iranians give up ... American soldier a little bunch of you.

[cost]

Trump's idol Tsar Leonid from "300 Spartans" Ukraine has released a remake especially for him with Israeli money

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Skarpzd

crush only due to resource potential

what kind of potential is this ??? a couple of hundred NATO worthless saldafons ??? or a semblance of "great" Saudi warriors ?? !!!

[Skarpzd]

I’m unfamiliar with NATO’s mobile plans. but I think they are slightly more than a couple of hundreds of worthless (and are they worthless?) soldiers. and the potential ... well, for example - NATO members can make up for the loss of a military aircraft very, very quickly. even a couple of dozen aircraft. and pilots of these aircraft. and ammunition. Is Iran capable of this?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Skarpzd

Are they worthless?)

at least study their activities in Afghanistan and Iraq, compare with the stated goals, time and money spent, and understand that nothing is worthless !!!

Quote: Skarpzd

and the potential ... well, for example - NATO members can make up for the loss of a military aircraft very, very quickly. even a couple of dozen aircraft. and pilots of these aircraft. and ammunition.

continue to believe in fairy tales about the omnipotence of Euroamericos !!!

[Skarpzd]

someone talked about omnipotence? Where? Now about the declared goals in Afghanistan and Iraq. statements are just words. who knows what they say. in fact in Afghanistan instability. close to our borders. Does it benefit us? drug trafficking which in our direction adds joy to us? I don’t think so. Iraq is even easier-control of free oil who benefit? us or the states? Well, something like this ..... but statements about bringing democracy to the Middle East and so on blah blah blah ... someone else believes in them?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Skarpzd

someone else believes in them?

Well, you believe in the potential that Iran will demolish ... you see, someone believes in what you voiced !!

[Skarpzd]

what's the difference in what i believe or don't believe? since the middle of the 20th century, in all wars, the victory (well, or stays with its own) is primarily the economy. then logistics. and then the training and motivation of the armed forces.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Skarpzd

what's the difference in what i believe or don't believe? since the middle of the 20th century, in all wars, the victory (well, or stays with its own) is primarily the economy. then logistics. and then the training and motivation of the armed forces.

these are all tales in favor of the poor ... look do not experience the shock of a collision with reality !!!

Quote: Skarpzd

since the middle of the 20th century, in all wars, the victory (well, or stays with its own) is primarily the economy.

it seems that you specifically decided to manipulate and took precisely this period of time, excluding the WWII and WWII from it, because it is their example that crushes your beliefs to pieces ... especially on the example of the greatest economy of Nazi Germany and the results for it after these wars !!
PS ... by the way, do not forget that the second half of the 20th century has long passed and right now no one will fight with that tactics and strategy !!! one rocket with a thermonuclear charge will send your entire economy, logistics, training and motivation to hell !!!

[Skarpzd]

interesting ... which of us is in reality ... give at least one example when a country with a backward economy and lack of weapons of mass destruction and, most importantly, delivery vehicles can resist NATO or the states

[Same lech]

Yes, please ... Vietnam.

[Skarpzd]

Quote: The same Lech

Yes, please ... Vietnam.

Well, Vietnam is a great winner of the states. please remind: who fought on the side of Vietnam? Whose weapons did Vietnam fight? whose economy pulled this war for Vietnam? and most importantly, which country was destroyed at the end of the Vietnam War? Are human and state losses comparable?

[sniperino]

Quote: Skarpzd

who fought on the side of vietnam?

Our military specialists, but not the USSR with all its potential, which together with Vietnam was approximately equal to the enemy. It is not correct to use this example as an argument in support of the thesis about the predominant role of the economy in the outcome of wars after WWII. The arms race, if not killing the economy, makes it stronger. Cuba's economy is much weaker than that of the United States, but Cuba did not become their "backyard" even after the collapse of the USSR. Although, no one will deny the important role of the economy. US policy has caused protests even domestically.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Skarpzd

interesting ... which of us is in reality ... give at least one example when a country with a backward economy and lack of weapons of mass destruction and, most importantly, delivery vehicles can resist NATO or the states

at least Syria ... but I think you are again using some manipulative techniques !!! there were many wars what happened when the Euroamers in bulk or alone really fought with other countries ??? I already wrote above that the Hussites in sneakers are chasing the homies of your Amerikos, and all of you Taldychite !!!

PS ... there I edited the comment, you read and continue so don’t be wrong !!!

[Skarpzd]

oh how do you like to hang up labels))) I've already found American homies))) and yes, what about Syria? I did not understand honestly. Barmaleev whether Syria independently hammering? something she didn’t do very well before Russian intervention. or wrong?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Skarpzd

oh how do you like to hang up labels))) I've already found American homies))) and yes, what about Syria? I did not understand honestly. Barmaleev whether Syria independently hammering? something she didn’t do very well before Russian intervention. or wrong?

Well, so the mericatos and with the intervention of their homies can’t do anything anywhere !!!

[Skarpzd]

[/ Quote]
it seems that you specifically decided to manipulate and took precisely this period of time, excluding the WWII and WWII from it, because it is their example that crushes your beliefs to pieces ... especially on the example of the greatest economy of Nazi Germany and the results for it after these wars !!
PS ... by the way, do not forget that the second half of the 20th century has long passed and right now no one will fight with that tactics and strategy !!! one rocket with a thermonuclear charge will send your entire economy, logistics, training and motivation to hell !!! [/ Quote]
But what did the economy and production not play any role in WWI? she cho ... the lack of cannon shells and generally armament in the Russian army how did it help us? Yes, and the second world how is it different? You said correctly - the united European economy directed by Hitler against us what? seemed to us a little? how much blood was spilled before the evacuated plants started up? until the economy was put on a war footing? Or do you think that they threw slippers? and by the way about tactics and strategy, you again correctly said. Americans will not go hand to hand. why not. missiles and bombs will be at war. they have already done this more than once. and with what quite successfully. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, continue? and yes ... Iran has a fusion and delivery vehicles to the USA ??? did not know...

[cost]

Against the backdrop of such events, a Boeing 737 passenger plane with 167 passengers and 13 crew members on board crashed two minutes after takeoff from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran. The liner belongs to Ukraine International Airlines (owner - oligarch Igor Kolomoisky). The crash was caused by a technical malfunction.

[hydrox]

But the question was not asked: to whom it can be so indifferent (and it hurts the Ukrainians and the Persians!) That it was the UKRAINIAN plane that crashed upon departure from TEHRAN. Who could have made such a trick, and for what purpose?

[cost]

I didn’t ask. Tell me

[hydrox]

I can’t :: I’m racking my brains - it’s not at the right time against the background of really scary events :: it’s not at all a fact that at least half a liter of common sense should be found in each of the five interested parties (in fact, twice as much and on each side may not be of one interest).
So I say - it is not sewn into the general canvas ...

[alexddd]

How in Donbasey they want to distract the eyes of the public with falling planes .... They are stupid (as Zadornov said). Methods do not change. What for? If it works. So think whose aircraft it is. No one seriously thinks that at such a tense moment, suddenly the engine of the plane caught fire? The version with the plane was used up. Now civilian ships can still sink ... Tankers with oil will bomb several pieces, they will say that Iran. The media all of them know how to scream loudly and will be for the whole world. They will flood the Persian Gulf with oil ... I think it will be so.

[Edmond dantes]

Tell this to the French and British who merged with the Germans in WWII.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Skarpzd

and it’s bad that Iran has practically no chance to inflict unacceptable damage on staff with allies.

Eeee no, as they say "there would be a desire, but there is a way" For example, it is possible to supply anti-ship and / or ballistic missiles to opponents of the United States and its allies. And the benefit can be obtained in the form of a capture of hydrocarbon deposits in the local water area. Or for example, it is possible to arrange shipments of anti-ship missiles to Panamanian terrorists to attack US ships, or at least to blackmail American companies.

[ML-334]

It seems to me that the whole of Europe, under attack, was accepted by refugees.

[classic46]

Iran is a mountainous region, basically, to start a war with it means to get bogged down worse than Afghanistan, I don’t even think that NATO will support (Erdogan has not been supported before). America except Israel will help, because the Bibi regime is inadequate, and it has bothered us with Europe ( the only western country where apartheid is supported at the state level).

[Sergey Pavlov]

It smelled fried. Ehh, I hope Pandora's box is not open yet.

[Vladimir_2U]

As there was a wish on VO so that the Amertsians would be stuck with all ends in the Middle East, it seems that the wish comes true.

[maidan.izrailovich]

As there was a wish on VO so that the Amertsians would be stuck with all ends in the Middle East, it seems that the wish comes true.

So the Americans got stuck in BV anyway. After it failed to quickly finish Syria. And two countries did not let them do it. These are Russia and Iran.
And now it becomes clear that Putin’s visit to Syria is not accidental. Surely our people knew about the impending blow. And against the background of this, Putin makes it clear to our allies in Syria that Russia will not stop halfway. And it will be in business until victory.
Let’s hand over Iran, we’ll be left face to face with the USA. Syria and Venezuela do not count. Iran cannot be surrendered. .

[Vladimir_2U]

Somehow they were not convincingly stuck, now they won’t be able to get off.

[Grits]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

As there was a wish on VO so that the Amertsians would be stuck with all ends in the Middle East, it seems that the wish comes true.

There are wishes. That's just amerikatos not fools and took into account the experience of past mistakes. There will be no ground operation. They will first carry out the air defense of Iran, then the rest of the military infrastructure. Then civilian. And when Iran turns into a likeness of Afghanistan at the end of the 20th century, they will declare a complete victory. And all this will be done remotely - missiles and aircraft.

[Vladimir_2U]

All the same, Iran has more opportunities, unlike Afghanistan.

[Grits]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

All the same, Iran has more opportunities, unlike Afghanistan.

This is for now. But if the Americans have a bite of the bit, then it could well turn into a semblance of Afghanistan

[Vladimir_2U]

Maybe, it cannot, Iran's air defense is still a size, plus the ability and, which is very important, the determination to strike at American bases. So with impunity, but not the fact that it is effective, the Americans will be able to beat only with "axes" from a distance, the rest is "fraught with sideways." ))

[Grits]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Maybe it can't, Iran's air defense is still a size, plus the ability and, which is very important, the determination to strike at American bases. So with impunity, but not the fact that it is effective, the Americans will be able to beat only with "axes" from a distance, the rest is "fraught with sideways."

I would like to believe in it

[hydrox]

Quote: Gritsa

And all this will be done remotely - missiles and aircraft.

Yes, this is a modern war :: so there may be no one between Iran and Amer’s AUG, but RUSSIAN KUG and just at the tip of the combat radius of AUG aviation — how will the Americans behave?

[Van 16]

Harshly new year begins ..

[Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko]

The year of the rat is always like that ...

[Kleber]

White House head Donald Trump plans to address the nation.

When the US president addresses the nation, American soldiers always die. So the war will be very bloody.

[parusnik]

So the war will be very bloody.

... Yes, the Persian Gulf is painfully narrow

[seregin-s1]

I was wrong in saying that Iran would limit itself to a nuclear deal. The Persians answered for the words. Let's see how the US allies will behave.

[Grits]

Quote: seregin-s1

I was wrong in saying that Iran would limit itself to a nuclear deal

Plus for honesty.

[hydrox]

And to you - for justice.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: seregin-s1

I was wrong in saying that Iran would limit itself to a nuclear deal. The Persians answered for the words. Let's see how the US allies will behave.

Those who are not as hot as they should should get on the skis soon!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Skarpzd

I don’t quite understand why we need to support Iran. allies?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
It is possible / necessary to support Iran simply against the USA!
Iran does not have a lot of striking means against the USA.
I suppose they won’t be able to drown AB or Burke.
As a result, they will be given their air defense, simply by crushing the number of missiles, and then they will be in the air as in Yugoslavia.
For months!

The flight of strategists in our direction is already the basis

Moreover, immediately a complete blow

[tolmachiev51]

And the Iranians know about this attack !? It seems that the rockets were made in USA !!!! Pure provocation.

[Rostislav Bely]

Good morning - the Iranian president has already trumped Trump on Twitter - posted the Iranian Flag ...
Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US Congress Nancy Pelosi appealed to the administration of President Donald Trump with a demand to stop provocation against Iran. The speaker wrote about this on her Twitter page.
Pelosi noted that the United States must ensure the safety of the military and demand that Iran end the violence.
"America and the whole world cannot afford a war," the speaker wrote.
Earlier it was reported that several US military installations in Iraq were attacked by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) of Iran.

[nPuBaTuP]

Iranian President Troll Trump Already

Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi appealed to the presidential administration Donald Trump to stop the provocation against Iran.

Troll well too ...
If Trump is blown away, a flock of such Pelosi will tear him apart ....

[malyvalv]

It seems the Americans did play a provocation in the style of Pearl Harbor. With the sanctions did not work. Now there is legitimacy within the United States for the bombing of Iran, the destruction of infrastructure, factories, bridges, etc.

[Gunxnumx]

I agree with you. The warriors need war as air. In the USA there is Moloch, represented by the military-industrial complex, around and in whose interests all politics revolves. The Americans think that they will brew the world war again, improve their affairs, warm their hands and safely sit overseas, having come to a divide, among the winners, at the end.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: Gun70

I agree with you. The warriors need war as air. In the USA there is Moloch, represented by the military-industrial complex, around and in whose interests all politics revolves. The Americans think that they will brew the world war again, improve their affairs, warm their hands and safely sit overseas, having come to a divide, among the winners, at the end.

Yes, they do not need war, they do not have health, it's over ...

[Skarpzd]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Skarpzd

I don’t quite understand why we need to support Iran. allies?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend !!

eh ... if everything was so simple.

[Karaul14]

When Iran shot down an American drone, Trump at the last moment canceled the attack on Iran, as he said that the casualties and the drone are an unequal exchange. Subsequently, the dismissed Bolton lamented this, accusing Trump of incompetence, in which now Iran would regard this as a weakness. It turns out that Bolton was right and Iran subsequently organized an attack on the US Embassy in Iraq. As a result, Trump had to go to a severe aggravation - the murder of Suleimani, who was just in Baghdad in order to coordinate actions. Trump needed to listen to more experienced comrades - the same Bolton and Mattis, they would have shook hands with Iran, would have shown that they were ready for the conflict to begin and this would not have happened. Now the States will have to respond with military aggression, otherwise there will be a loss of face and image of the United States. The answer will be in the near future, and this will not be a ban on the import of tomatoes, I still do not know how the USA will answer, but I have no doubt that the answer will be decent.

[malyvalv]

A bit wrong. The loss of a drone was not enough to destroy the infrastructure of Iran. It would look very disproportionate. But now it is possible. Actually, this was the purpose of the murder of Suleymani. Since it was obvious that the sanctions did not work and Iran did not want to go to the terms of the United States on a nuclear deal. But Israel is worried and worried. Yes, and the Saudis, too, help Iran Hussites zadolbal already.

[Karaul14]

I understand that many are shocked when they see a version that is completely distinguishable from the one accepted here as a carbon copy.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Karaul14

many are in shock

Why? Another very fresh clown delivers a lot to many, of which it happens here weekly before dope, yeah. However, both appear and fall off.

[Igoresha]

Iran subsequently organized an attack on the US Embassy in Iraq

where does infa come from Iran? are there any injured or just danced on camera in front of the fence and game over

[Dikson]

A nuclear warhead will fly to attack Israel in Iran .. that’s why I have such suspicions .. Again, Trump is able to give such an order in order to minimize human losses .. And the war will end immediately .. Americans are definitely not going to lose strategic bombers, and Iran alone cannot be defeated ..

[SSR]

Quote: Dikson

To attack Israel, a nuclear warhead will fly to Iran .. that’s why I have such suspicions ..

And I have such a feeling.
PS.
But there is also a feeling that this will be the beginning of some kind of end. There will be so many "sects" in the world against the demon who inflicted a nuclear strike that it will be a complete Achtung.

[Dikson]

The sectarians will be crushed separately ... But the effect will be from such a blow -Mama don’t cry .. At once the Arabs will shut up and peace will reign in the Middle East ..

[SSR]

Quote: Dikson

At once the Arabs will shut up

Arabs who are silent in Europe? Or are Muslims in Europe?

[Dikson]

They keep silent. They will get off easily and keep silent. Because you want to live. And after a nuclear explosion in the Persian Gulf, do you know how shale oil and gas will trample ?! When Yugoslavia Derbanil everyone was silent? Libya? Iraq? Americans do not care about Europe in essence .. If unrest starts in Europe, America is far away .. Well, at the UN they can condemn .. scold .. scold .. sigh and pohorut .. They will be thrown off for humanitarian aid .. And that’s all. From the dollar will not go anywhere ..

[SSR]

Quote: Dikson

And after a nuclear explosion in the Persian Gulf, do you know how shale oil and gas will trample ?!

I am glad that you are not the Minister of Defense of Israel.
You have a real pinch in your head as you think to put out a fire with gasoline.

[Dikson]

I wouldn’t like to be the Minister of Defense of Israel for any kind of carving .. What’s the big deal? Do you doubt that Israel will answer that way? But will he have a choice? Arabs .. Persians .. will not be silent .. Of course they will not .. They will vote, yell, run and crush each other at the funeral .. then they will burn a little American and Israeli flags and calm down, they will go on to perform the evening prayer .. There will be no partisan war against the United States in the Middle East. even after loud statements .. You have probably heard many times about the shelling and attempted attacks on Khmeimim, right? And why is it interesting that we do not hear about such attacks on American bases in the same Syria, in Iraq, in Japan, the same, finally? Does the great Arab fighting spirit work only against Russians and Jews? Something and the Bedouins were militant for the colonel, too, all, as one, did not die .. Today, like yesterday, who is stronger is right. You can talk about the impeachment of Trump, about some other things, but even because of a nuclear strike on Iran, the third world war will not begin. Chaos and epilepsy of the world economy - yes .. But there is no global war.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: Dikson

A nuclear warhead will fly to attack Israel in Iran .. that’s why I have such suspicions .. Again, Trump is able to give such an order in order to minimize human losses .. And the war will end immediately .. Americans are definitely not going to lose strategic bombers, and Iran alone cannot be defeated ..

It could even be ...

[Skarpzd]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Vietnam 2.0 or World 3 ...?

Americans are not stupid. ground operations (at least on their own) there is no need to carry out them. will be pecking at a distance. they are not the first time.

[Zomanus]

In, it began. Now condemnation from the UN will follow.
And if the UN does not immediately give permission for the bombing of Iran ... then Trump will not care.

[Skarpzd]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Quote: Skarpzd

and it’s bad that Iran has practically no chance to inflict unacceptable damage on staff with allies.

Eeee no, as they say "there would be a desire, but there is a way" For example, it is possible to supply anti-ship and / or ballistic missiles to opponents of the United States and its allies. And the benefit can be obtained in the form of a capture of hydrocarbon deposits in the local water area. Or for example, it is possible to arrange shipments of anti-ship missiles to Panamanian terrorists to attack US ships, or at least to blackmail American companies.

I would like to ... but no, Russia will never (hopefully) go for the dissemination of such technologies. at least by the fact that someday it may turn against us.

[Alevil]

Our leadership would be resolved, like the Iranian one ... Now is the time to crave for the Bandera scum.

[Dimon71]

At night, Iran strikes at am and in the morning the Hohlyad Boeing falls over Tehran. I think the connection is obvious

[Skarpzd]

Quote: Dimon71

At night, Iran strikes at am and in the morning the Hohlyad Boeing falls over Tehran. I think the connection is obvious

and where is this connection? is there infa?

[Tank jacket]

CNN-fake

[Kerensky]

Everyone has already forgotten that Pompeo offered to distribute something a little with them and end there? What are airbases and a dozen rockets? Well blot out a couple of shovels of concrete on the runway, well, a couple of mixers.
Victims being clarified? Do not make me laugh! Immediately after any shelling, roll call is carried out in any unit. And reporting to the journalists without casualties is not at all in the face - the editor himself will kill.
While there are no victims among US soldiers, and Iraqis have suffered on the towers ... Negotiated?

[AsmyppoL]

For me, a very sad event ....
In many NATO command and control systems, the opponents of the alliance were Iran, the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China ...
Conflicts allegedly began in the Baltic states and in the zone of interests of Iran. The destruction of the famous Iranian General is similar to the provocation of the American special services, which deliberately framed the impulsive American President. A retaliatory strike against American bases showed me that the Iranian government fell for this provocation ... The same as the defeat of the American Pacific Fleet, only in much smaller volumes ... As if we had not come to the beginning of the third world ...
God grant that this does not happen!

[opuonmed]

I hope it’s smart enough for the United States not to answer, and what’s the shelling in which no one died

[Strashila]

Of course, I could be wrong, but in the picture the launch of a ground-to-air missile.
Or the Iranians began to use them to strike ground targets.

[parusnik]

Interestingly, the news does not say about the number of deaths ... The Iranians hurried up ... There is also a nuance, in which direction the "tachanks" of the Barmaley underbits will turn, what position will Turkey, a NATO member and US ally take ... Europe's position, before that kept silent ... after the assassination of Suleimani ... Yes, and the United States needs permission from Congress to conduct a war ... And most importantly, many have their own interests in Iran ... Europe sucks, it is held hostage by Arab emigrants, the second front ..

[thinker]

Quote: Russian Moldovan

After completing the funeral of Suleimani ...

Yesterday, because of the crush postponed. This morning, the ceremony was resumed.

[georggy]

And there is nobody to help, in this good deed.

[Udav kaa]

All the same, Israel pitted the United States with Iran ..

[Air force]

The mess is not joking, why did Trump agree to hit? You can certainly think to avoid impeachment, but he actually did not threaten him, and after an authorized strike on the general and the subsequent consequences, impeachment may also threaten. For some reason, it seems that this is another stupidity of both Trump and his strategists, plus misinformation to everything (like nothing will happen, everything is under control, let's hit, raise the ratings, Iran will disappear, sources told us that after this blow, Iran is covered and etc. Well, like, with Russia, "the economy is in tatters") or is it a game of democrats against Trump, feed him "misinformation" and instill the need to strike this blow, thereby making impeachment a reality. Of course, it is possible that Trump, according to the old American tradition, starts his "victorious war" before the elections, which is even more stupid than a blow to the general. PS It strains in this situation that Trump likes to raise rates, Iran replied, Trump needs to be raised, and then Putin V.V. he flew to Syria on Tuesday, thereby showing that Russia rules in the Middle East, she has everything under control and is not afraid of American attacks by the Russian Federation, and before arriving to the shores of Syria, Marshal Ustinov was sent, then a passenger Boeing in Iran falls (what Iran will be accused, Iran can parry that it is not the Americans who shoot down civilian planes in the first place), then the Canadians urgently got home from Iraq, in general, Trump needs to be answered, but the answer can lead to war, or leave Iraq, but then the loss of face and howl that "Akela missed", and Israel, too, will be worried not childishly, although they pretend that they are not on a drum and they are strong no matter when, but if the hegemon floats home, the time will come to worry, though they will hope that Putin is .AT. will not give them offense and "sort out" the situation, but this will further undermine the position of the United States in the region. Bottom line: Trump needs to be answered, and given the fact that almost all of them who are in power in the United States are not adequate, this is annoying.

[alexddd]

A sound analysis of the situation. Everything to the point.

[Tank hard]

One thing can be said, the leadership of Iran does not forgive the killing of its soldiers.

[Jarserge]

There is no need to rush, no rush. Everything is still muddy and incomprehensible, more like propaganda fakes.

[Kapkan]

I don’t understand only, but what, the USA does not have any air defense systems such as Shell, Thor .... Well, or at least the understanding that air defense should be covered? Or are they so self-confident that they’re definitely not attacking us and we don’t need such systems ..
Some strange ...

[ABM]

Ballistic missiles with their trajectory fall from above, falling into the zone of effective destruction of such complexes at the last moment. It’s almost impossible to bring down

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kapkan

the United States does not have any air defense systems such as Shell, Thor ....

No, and it is not expected. And in general, in terms of military air defense, they have a failure. As for the air defense facility, they have a capricious "Patriot" for all occasions.

[Kapkan]

Then I don’t understand their hatred statements. These people are either on the verge of insanity, or a bluff from poker is their EVERYTHING, or they really do not understand anything in hostilities.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kapkan

their capricious statements are not clear.

The current situation was influenced by many factors, military and political, internal and external - we observe the result.

[Kapkan]

By the way, they also have these Phalanx Volcanoes or whatever ... six-barreled guns ... Or are they only on ships?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kapkan

are they only on ships?

There are also land, C-RAM:

But, as they say, the lobby is useless ...

[Kapkan]

Well, yes, the obsolete garbage is apparently ... Our shilka 100 years ago created a cloud of bullets to increase the likelihood of defeat, but this thing is too accurate judging by the video.

[Adimius38]

25 years ago there was a film about nostradamus that predicts the beginning of the third world because of Iran, the prophecy comes true

[Vadim237]

This nastrodamus - crap with the third world war, because of Iran no one will start it.

[ivanec]

Meanwhile, in Iran, they made 2 tests of underground vigorous gifts for friends *

[asv363]

Ivan, are you talking about 2 earthquakes?

[latgalec]

The question is different, to buy pasta with buckwheat or not ....

[Nick]

Quote: latgalec

The question is different, to buy pasta with buckwheat or not ....

Definitely. Still salt, matches, canned food, kerosene. You can have coffee grain, - the excellent currency was in Moscow during the Great Patriotic War.

[Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko]

Dry crackers and buy matches, salt, vodka!

[Nick]

Started! Next is Israel. Then everywhere ...

[Stas 2rep]

Rushed oblique into the sorrel.

[Old warrior]

Well done! They are responsible for the bazaar. Ours would have such a determination.

[seregatara1969]

and the photo was only with air defense missiles?

[agond]

In Iran (as well as in North Korea) they have long been fond of the construction of underground structures, and this may affect the duration of the military conflict

[Old26]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

Either Trump will be impeached, or they will also kill him!

Or there is a third version :))
Trump is re-elected for a second term

This is the fourth version. The first three were voiced by Tatyana. Moreover, IMHO they smell more of conspiracy theories than they have real data

Quote: hydrox

You see, "Marshal Ustinov" is already there ...
Whether he flanks through the Mediterranean or enters the Persian Gulf - this great mystery is ...
But I think that a couple of Iran’s air bases are ready to receive a regiment or other Tu-22M3M and the same number of Su-35s ...
What the Bears will be doing at this time is still unknown to the shirnarmass.

Quote: hydrox

Iran has some kind of air defense, but it does exist (I would not be surprised that the S-400 with the battalion also got in the way), so an attack by aircraft is unlikely, so after all, the exits to the launch lines of the Axes m blocked by "Ustinov" (somewhere there he is, and he had better not get into the field of action).
But I think that Ustinov will always be between the AUG and Iran (only how is he alone there?)

I understand, of course, the post-holiday syndrome, but ... Your "wet dreams" run counter to the realities of this world. Do you get the impression that you are looking at the world through rose-colored glasses?
There the Persians are already ready to accept the regiment or another TU-22M3M, which in this reality now exists in the amount of 1-3 copies. SU-35 is also a regiment or two. But we were not interested in whether the Russian Ministry of Defense was going to do this or not. The S-400 battalion cluttered there in Iran. They haven’t delivered everything to Turkey yet, but is Iran already a battalion? And the calculation on it is Russian or Persian? If Persian, then it turns supermen. Not learning ready to use.
"Marshal Ustinov" is already blocking "Axes". And the fact that it was anchored in the Bosphorus after it collided with the pier and was towed to the anchorage by three tugboats - you probably do not know. He "burns with napalm" in the Persian Gulf ....
Damn, are you tired of carrying the blizzard?

Quote: Strashila

Of course, I could be wrong, but in the picture the launch of a ground-to-air missile.
Or the Iranians began to use them to strike ground targets.

The photo shows the Iranian Tondar-69 missile. Created by the Chinese under the 8610 program on the basis of the HQ-2 anti-aircraft missile (a clone of the Russian S-75 air defense system)

Quote: ivanec

Meanwhile, in Iran, they made 2 tests of underground vigorous gifts for friends *

And the material used as these "nuclear gifts" was the waste products of camels, most likely ...

[Dikson]

About the kiss of Marshall with the pier. Where does this infa come from? Your conclusion, based on the analysis of available photos? So after embarrassment, the commander of the ship can command the remainder of the service as a boat in the Arctic ..

[Sarcasm]

There is a genius on the expanses of tyrnet, an expert on everything and everything El Murid, who is also Nesmeyan. Articles for tracing paper, it is noticeable that different people write, the author only retells in his own words. Just the other day, I was talking nonsense after the Iranian leadership announced the military nature of the response, made fun and grimaced, blocked comments, explaining to the idiot that Iran, aka Persia, is one of the most ancient civilizations, the USA, Europe, and we were not even in its infancy the state when Persia was already mature. That the blow will and will not be behind the proxy.
The conclusion of the genius after the Iranians hit the US bases, quote: “Attack.
I'm on the train, so it's hard to keep track of what is happening. But I can only say that I definitely did not expect Iran’s decision. The degree of his frostbite and adventurism rolls over ... " I sang and sang to grief, sold for a pair of silver pieces, but for the time being wearing patriotic masks, it just doesn’t reach the point that a normal man whose mother insulted an ambal will not think about the size, size of the coffin for an ambal and the forest’s overtake by the undertaker, but act in defense of the sacred.
Contrary to popular belief, everyone was not, but became slaves. Even our tyrnet heroes, apparently believing that Iran should act as if by some instruction from a fable about a policewoman in the US: “If you are raped, relax and try to have fun ...”. It doesn’t occur to them that a “woman” will bite off her nose, lip, tear her throat with her teeth, and would rather die in dishonor than death ...
Slave psychology gave through to many “analysts” and it is beneficial for amers to support such a logic and type of thinking, slavish in essence. They will have to answer, and they will certainly answer, and they are stronger than Iran, and are able to raze it to the ground, BUT the blow took place, and the publicly fat American smug cat got a kick for the same thing.

[Bare]

US navel will tear apart the Islamic world.

[Dima_Anlim]

There is already evidence that not a single American soldier was injured by the attack of Iranian missiles. But there are injured Iraqis. Super "Iranian retaliation" - it is ....

[bbss]

In the photo, the launch of the S-75 air defense complex missile.

[Old26]

Quote: Dikson

About the kiss of Marshall with the pier. Where does this infa come from? Your conclusion, based on the analysis of available photos? So after embarrassment, the commander of the ship can command the remainder of the service as a boat in the Arctic ..

Evgeniy! Hammer in any search engine a question about the whereabouts of "Marshal Ustinov". There will be enough information and not only text, but also a video of its towing by Turkish tugs. So this is not my conclusion ...

Quote: Bere

US navel will tear apart the Islamic world.

Alexei! don't count on it. Moreover, the Islamic world is also not monolithic. And surrounded by Iran, most of them are not their Shia religionists, but Sunites. And how everything turns out to be hard to say

Quote: bbss

In the photo, the launch of the S-75 air defense complex missile.

The photo shows the start of the Iranian ground-to-ground ballistic missile "Tondar-69"

[Zoldat_A]

[quote = Zoldat_A] [quote = Vadim237] I bet that Russia will help Iran with weapons and intelligence data. [/ quote]
The most interesting thing is that some 40 years ago it was the other way around.

In life what ....

And more recently, Gaddafi with his tent went to visit someone ...
And the Most Democratic Country of the World in the person of its President welcomed the recently recently elected President Assad ...

And now the Most Democratic Country of the World suddenly engages in state terrorism itself.

Suddenly...

Where are we going, dear comrades? Obviously not to communism ...

[eklmn]

News without Google, fresh, from Amersky TV today:
“Iranian troops fired more than a dozen ballistic missiles against two military bases in Iraq and stated that at least 80 US soldiers were killed. The US military said it is still evaluating the result. ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-live-updates/2020/01/08/c835c218-31a0-11ea-9313-6cba89b1b9fb_story.html
Iranians said Carl, Iranians, about 80 killed.

Amer news on TV today:
Trump is still silent about the devastation (he will appear on TV soon), but says that the Americans are all intact. Iraqi media say there are no casualties among Iraqis. Amer military - Iran missed.
Iranian media - “we launched rockets in the direction of amer bases to prove our abilities. They didn’t want to cause human damage, otherwise the war would have started. ”
Maybe Amer’s air defense didn’t work, because calculated that rockets fly by.
In short, after Trump’s appearance on TV, I’ll give a message ....

[www3]

there are video launches)
statements of loss are)
video and photo hit no! )))
again, all the film in the camera down? everything is as it should be in Africa - there is an attack, there is a photo of the fire at the base.!

[Halkoliant]

for what eggs should we attract the Merikos with their business card in the form of the crash of passenger planes ... as if everyone is down and it is very difficult to redeem them!!!!

[Varyag71]

At least someone has balls

[seacap]

In the picture, the missile is very similar to the B-760 missile system of the S-75 complex or the Chinese clone of the HQ-2 and somehow does not look very similar to the “telegraph poles” of the OTR, after all, a site with a similar topic should be more attentive and professional in its illustrations of their publications. Moreover, I personally see this not for the first time, but here many have “touched all this with their hands” and not all of them are “armchair experts”, there are many professional practitioners with many years of experience in the operation and combat use of various types of equipment, that’s why they have Trust in such authors and articles immediately decreases, as does the site as a whole.