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SAM in the Donbass: the OSCE discovered the APU’s non-contact technology

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The OSCE special monitoring mission reported that it recorded a violation by the Ukrainian military of a regime for withdrawing arms from the contact line. Representatives of the OSCE SMM noted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) did not withdraw from the indicated line of the Osa air defense system. It is reported that these complexes are in close proximity to the demarcation line.


Corresponding reports were submitted by the OSCE SMM from January 4 to 6 of the coming year. The complex was discovered outside a special territory intended for the removal of weapons and military equipment.

Ukrainian officers at the joint ceasefire monitoring and coordination center (JCC) initially did not confirm the OSCE SMM information, stating that it was not true. However, at the moment when the OSCE monitoring mission presented all the data on weapons that were not withdrawn from the contact line, the SCCC of Ukraine decided to go the other way.

On the official page of the CCCC of Ukraine on Facebook it is stated that they do not understand the claims from the OSCE SMM, since the Osa air defense system "does not fall under the prohibited weapons."

From a Facebook post:

The OSCE SMM team continues to provide inaccurate information about violations by the Ukrainian side of the Minsk agreements on the withdrawal of weapons, namely, the 9K33 Osa anti-aircraft missile systems. The Ukrainian side of the joint center for monitoring and coordinating ceasefire and stabilizing the demarcation line of the parties informs that the deployment of the specified military equipment does not fall within the scope of the Minsk agreements on the withdrawal of weapons.

The very fact that military equipment is outside the protocol zone once again shows that official Kiev is ready to continue attempts to evade the implementation of the agreements reached.
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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 7 January 2020 18: 09
    +3
    Well, u.rody they are! They want to drive another board into the ground!
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 7 January 2020 18: 12
      +3
      Yes, civil aircraft have not been flying there for a long time.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 7 January 2020 18: 14
        +4
        Yes, put your own under attack, and then yell to the whole world about another "hello"
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 7 January 2020 18: 31
          +2
          Quote: AlexGa
          Yes, put your own under attack, and then yell to the whole world about another "hello"

          Well, shout!
          1. cniza
            cniza 7 January 2020 18: 36
            0
            Quote: AlexGa
            Well, u.rody they are! They want to drive another board into the ground!


            I don’t know how to board, but the fact that they are preparing a provocation is for sure.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 7 January 2020 20: 19
              +2
              The fact that there is always the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is understandable (after all, someone is shelling settlements)
              But before they were not "seen" point-blank.
              This is the OSCE’s response to Putin’s Happy New Year.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 7 January 2020 20: 55
                +7
                Sasha, hello and Happy Holidays! wink hi drinks
                Quote: Shurik70
                before they were not "seen" point-blank

                Have seen the light. Lead their grandmother with a rehearsal bolt. The question is: how long have they "seen the light" ???
                Quote: Shurik70
                This is the OSCE’s response to Putin’s Happy New Year.

                We will see ...
                1. Abbot
                  Abbot 8 January 2020 03: 03
                  0
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  Ripened

                  Dust in your eyes. Who is interested in this "Wasp"? ZU, mortars, large-caliber machine guns and so on, with which the LDNR is constantly fired upon. And not this "Wasp". The presence of foreign, undefined armed formations, UAVs, instructors, PMCs and so on ... The OSCE SMM is great, they spend their time on finding out what nobody needs. They can just as well search for a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine with the whole gang. The appearance of presence is not without malice.
        2. Karaul73
          Karaul73 7 January 2020 21: 12
          -6
          It is only others who can expose their own under attack. Do you have examples from world practice when they intentionally lead their own to slaughter?
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 7 January 2020 22: 43
            0
            Quote: Sentry73
            Do you have examples from world practice when they intentionally lead their own to slaughter?

            Heavenly hundred?
          2. Alexga
            Alexga 7 January 2020 22: 44
            -2
            Like, "Lusitania", for example.
    2. Aibolit
      Aibolit 7 January 2020 19: 47
      -2
      Wasp what can you “drive” (what you are hinting at)?
      5/7 km (Belarusian) in height?
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 7 January 2020 20: 49
        +2
        Yes, elementary, doctor. A helicopter of its own, the OSCE, of a joint commission ... Or on a ground target, like a maritime version in 2008 on Georgian boats.
    3. Holgerton
      Holgerton 7 January 2020 20: 16
      -2
      Here they kindly kept silent that the OSCE also found 22 BM-21 units on the territory of the LPR outside the places of withdrawal of troops, but that is, probably, the "Uralov" do not have enough food to deliver
    4. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 7 January 2020 23: 46
      +3
      And what else should Americans do with it, use Ukraine as an inflatable woman.
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39 7 January 2020 18: 10
    +1
    This once again confirms Zelensky's incompetence.
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 7 January 2020 18: 14
      +2
      Rather, it is not a matter of competence, but of the anarchy of the Armed Forces.
  3. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 7 January 2020 18: 11
    +9
    But really not taken away? Yes, it cannot be. And so for 5 years. feel
  4. Kleber
    Kleber 7 January 2020 18: 11
    +1
    Now Kiev will announce that this air defense system has lost its way. Recently, a lot of lost near the demarcation line appears.
    1. Karaul73
      Karaul73 7 January 2020 21: 14
      -5
      More and more paratroopers can not find the way.
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 7 January 2020 18: 14
    +3
    And then some sort of helicopter will fall and it starts ... There are no other reasons for the air defense system, except for preparing a provocation, in the Donbass, and even when breeding it is not seen. PS is hard to disguise
    1. Holgerton
      Holgerton 7 January 2020 19: 51
      -1
      After all, there are no drones in the Donbass, and the air defense system is now a cheap thing, you can shoot on the ground and just hold it in the field.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 7 January 2020 18: 30
    +1
    Or maybe they just let us down, we thought that they would give a ride!
  7. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 7 January 2020 18: 31
    +2
    And what "Wasp" plans to shoot down? Except for drones. Which most likely she will not stupidly see ...
    Expected airstrike on the positions of the Armed Forces of the LDNR?! ..
    1. D16
      D16 7 January 2020 23: 17
      +2
      Which most likely she will not see stupidly ...

      Why not see something? It has everything you need. Just for their soul Wasps are kept there.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 9 January 2020 19: 34
        +1
        Rockets will hit? If God gives, they will see ... Is it not very expensive?
        1. D16
          D16 9 January 2020 19: 52
          +1
          Ask how much the watch costs. A drone can make such nasty things that the price of a rocket from a Wasp seems insignificant. He will receive a command center with a surveillance radar, and he will make out through the OLS. And without using your own radar. So you’ll find her too.
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 9 January 2020 21: 11
            +1
            What a twist! Well, if not using your radar! Then yes.
            This is the end....
            1. D16
              D16 9 January 2020 21: 43
              +1
              Belarusians have been modernizing Wasp for 10-12 years. So the appearance of Ukrainians version 1T is not at all surprised.
  8. cniza
    cniza 7 January 2020 18: 35
    +4
    The very fact that military equipment is outside the protocol zone once again shows that official Kiev is ready to continue attempts to evade the implementation of the agreements reached.


    Everything is again in a circle, they will not calm down without a kick.
  9. Amateur
    Amateur 7 January 2020 18: 37
    +3
    did not take away from the indicated line of the Osa air defense system.


    And the seventh I secretly from the chieftain ataman traded for these pants.
  10. potap6509
    potap6509 7 January 2020 19: 24
    +1
    Not really seen, damned!
  11. evgen1221
    evgen1221 7 January 2020 19: 51
    +1
    Well, for so many years, the Observer has been looking wide-eyed for everything, Ukrainians are already accustomed to patronizing. The time will come and they will openly send the obsa.
  12. Equalized
    Equalized 7 January 2020 19: 57
    +3
    News sucked from a finger. Since 2014, in the ATO area, a group of air defense forces has been created which includes radio engineering units (radar 35D6, P-18, 36D6, etc.), medium-range air defense regiments with beeches and S-300, short-range air defense (wasps / arrows), and air defense brigade brigades and so on ...

    The S-300P division has been deployed near Donetsk for 4 years already, in Mariupol there are 2 divisions, in Kramatorsk the Buk-M1 division. And then a whole "Wasp" was found ..
  13. Klingon
    Klingon 7 January 2020 20: 14
    0
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    And then some sort of helicopter will fall and it starts ... There are no other reasons for the air defense system, except for preparing a provocation, in the Donbass, and even when breeding it is not seen. PS is hard to disguise

    all right. and not some kind of helicopter, but a helicopter from the OSCE will fall and be dumped on LDNR (the so-called separatists)
  14. Proton
    Proton 7 January 2020 20: 17
    +1
    And chegtam generally one zrk does? request
    Oh yes, it’s holding back hundreds of “aggressor” planes from attacking Europe wassat
  15. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 7 January 2020 20: 33
    +2
    And-and-and ... what threatens them for this ?!
    I think they will increase the supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine, especially since it has an excellent sponsor in the person of Gazprom.
  16. RideMaster
    RideMaster 7 January 2020 21: 45
    +2
    I saw these wasps on the train.
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 January 2020 01: 48
    +1
    And did someone even believe in the negotiability of Ukrainians?
    It seems to me that over the past five years such naive people are no longer there.