Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Once again, Estonia refuses to ratify the state border treaty with Russia. The governing coalition in Estonia has agreed that it will not do this, said Speaker of the Riigikogu (Estonian Parliament) Henn Põlluaas.


Estonia refuses to ratify the border treaty with Russia, even if the Russian side does so. The ruling coalition in the Estonian parliament will not sign an agreement already ratified by the Russian State Duma.

Surely we should not ratify it. If we conclude a new border treaty and abandon those territories, this will have enormous legal consequences. First, we will annul the Tartu Peace Treaty. In this regard, our succession is also canceled, which means an automatic change in the composition of our citizens, etc. This is an extremely dangerous path.

said Henn Pyllois.

Back in March 2019, nationalists from the Conservative People's Party of Estonia (EKRE), having improved their positions in the Estonian parliament, said they would withdraw Estonia’s signature on a border treaty with Russia. They also announced their intention to raise the issue of the territorial affiliation of the Russian Ivangorod: the territory beyond the Narva River, including Ivangorod, and parts of the present Pskov Region, or to demand monetary compensation for these lands that belonged to them from 1920 to 1940 according to the Tartu Treaty of 1920.

The Estonian-Russian state border line was agreed on in 2005, after almost 11 years of negotiations, and the border treaty between Russia and Estonia was ratified in 2014.
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  1. Udav kaa 7 January 2020 13: 34 New
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    Buying, yelling again? wassat
    1. Bar2 7 January 2020 13: 42 New
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      in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.
      1. knn54 7 January 2020 14: 15 New
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        In modern language, the Baltic countries, like Finland, arose from the "royal test tube", that is, artificial formations. Narva (Ivangorod) needs to be returned. Question to NATO is “violated”, because they accepted a state with territorial problems into the bloc.
        A purely informative question for Estonians, brought at least their grammar "to mind"?
        1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 14: 34 New
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          Quote: knn54
          The question to NATO is “violated”, for they have accepted a state with territorial problems into the bloc

          You have no doubt that for Nata, they’re striped: they’ll turn the law wherever they want ... And they pulled the former countries of the Warsaw Bloc and the ex-republics of the Union into the ground, spitting on everything ..
          1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 15: 28 New
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            Here I am still wildly interesting: a question for the ousted to a colleague, God forbid, of course: do you regret that you were personally dragged into nature or any other ideas? Don't you agree with the pictures of the planes?
            1. novel66 7 January 2020 15: 42 New
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              buddy hi spit saliva !! Well this is also a topic for us: but let's review !!! on weak !!! on a man !!!
              1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 16: 08 New
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                hi no, well, give a chance to talk with the dissent angry
                Just practice shows that it makes sense not to leave unsatisfied behind their back, especially when they finely shit
                1. novel66 7 January 2020 16: 34 New
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                  control in the head?
                  1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 18: 18 New
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                    Roman, well, it’s impossible, we are civilized people: first you need to say hello, then how are you, and only then
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    control in the head?
                    1. novel66 7 January 2020 18: 24 New
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                      about! I heard it somewhere!
                      -Take me as your assistant!
                      -Well, being a private detective is not so easy ... For example, you can't just give someone in the face.
                      -But as?
                      -Go up to him, say something ... For example, "Look, the wave is rolling!". He told you: "What ???" - And you him-rrrraz and in the face.
                      1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 19: 08 New
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                        I rephrased O'Henry, but the meaning is the same lol
                      2. novel66 7 January 2020 20: 58 New
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                        it's not that, this is the movie "the last scout"
        2. Bar2 7 January 2020 17: 33 New
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          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          You have no doubt that for Nata, they’re striped: they’ll turn the law wherever they want ... And they pulled the former countries of the Warsaw Bloc and the ex-republics of the Union into the ground, spitting on everything ..


          in general, of course, our relationship knew better times.

          1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 18: 23 New
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            The trouble is with those with whom
            Quote: Bar2
            our relationship knew better times.
            very short memory controlled by telephone. I’m also always amazed at the patience of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs; not remembering kinship
        3. DPN
          DPN 8 January 2020 01: 43 New
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          And the former countries of the Warsaw bloc and the former republics of the Union they pulled into the field, spit on everything ..
          correctly holy place is never empty.
      2. Mavrikiy 7 January 2020 16: 05 New
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        Quote: knn54
        A purely informative question for Estonians, brought at least their grammar "to mind"?

        I do not understand you. The Vatican has such a "mind" in Poland and the Ruin that questions disappear.
      3. Keyser soze 7 January 2020 17: 04 New
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        The question for NATO is “violated”, for they have accepted a state with territorial problems into the bloc.


        Yes, in the EU no one pays attention to several marginals. There are such everywhere - with us, with you, in the EU and in Zanzibar. The Baltic states do not dare to utter an official voice, because they will receive from the rear both from NATO and the EU.

        The question is, why do you pay attention to the pug? Well, peep and peep .... they can remember the Tartu treaty, they can remember Genghis Khan or the Harap civilization - God be with them, let them have fun.
        1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 18: 28 New
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          Quote: Keyser Soze
          in the EU, no one pays attention to several marginals. The Baltic states do not dare to utter an official voice, because they will receive from the rear both from NATO and the EU.

          Let's be honest: in the EU, very few people dare to utter a laugh, and all these newborns democracy and even more so.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          The question is, why do you pay attention to the pug .... God be with them, let them have fun.

          Because generosity and patience here does not justify itself: after all, as small children, you don’t react, they try to climb on your neck
          1. Keyser soze 7 January 2020 18: 58 New
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            because as small children - you don’t react, try to climb on your neck


            "zero attention, a pound of contempt." Grandmother learned - I still remember. Golden phrase :)

            Something, somewhere, someone blurted out and the media wrote. And they wrote because there is not enough money for smart journalists and interesting articles. It’s easier to search in nete and bungle news in 5 minutes ... hi
            1. Pete mitchell 7 January 2020 19: 04 New
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              Grandmother respect, of course, but your words about smart journalists, but to God’s ears. Have you seen independent journalists for a long time?
              This is not the situation, here it is better to adequately answer. If you have not yet encountered how public opinion is created, you are in luck.
      4. Bar2 7 January 2020 17: 15 New
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        Quote: knn54
        . Narva (Ivangorod) must be returned.



        even without particularly straining into history, we can recall that
        -Riga-Ruski is a shed for threshing wheat.
        -Semigalia is a very strange name in the territory of Latvia and the capital of this region was called RI-Rezhitsa.
        -Vilnius city / Vilnius is the Russian city of Volny.
        River Neman / Memel is the Russian river Rusna, there is still the city of Rusna / Rus.
        -the city of Koniksberg is the Russian city of Korolets, according to Andrey Vinius.
        Our Foreign Ministry should not be embarrassed with this trifle, which spoils our blood and speaks loudly and distinctly from where the roots of the entire "independent" Baltic are.
        1. Flooding 7 January 2020 23: 39 New
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          Quote: Bar2
          in Russian

          Quote: Bar2
          Russian

          Do you write and speak Russian or Russian?
          1. Bar2 7 January 2020 23: 44 New
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            Quote: Flood
            Do you write and speak Russian or Russian?


            I speak Russian and everyone else speaks Russian, not Russian. To double consonants without need is the rule not of Russian, but of German.
            1. Flooding 8 January 2020 00: 14 New
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              Quote: Bar2
              I speak Russian and everyone else speaks Russian, not Russian. To double consonants without need is the rule not of Russian, but of German.

              In your world, who won the last hockey championship?
            2. Flooding 8 January 2020 01: 01 New
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              Quote: Bar2
              I speak Russian and everyone else speaks Russian, not Russian. To double consonants without need is the rule not of Russian, but of German

              Efrosin's List of the XNUMXth Century

              Page on the left, the third line from the bottom about russcom Prince Dmitry Ivanovich (Donskoy).
              This was written by Andrei Karbyshev. That this is not about a double consonant, but about the use of the suffixes -k or -sk after the root of Russian.
              So I'm sorry, but your conviction is rather from ignorance.
              1. Bar2 8 January 2020 08: 06 New
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                Quote: Flood
                This was written by Andrei Karbyshev. That this is not about a double consonant, but about the use of the suffixes -k or -sk after the root of Russian.
                So I'm sorry, but your conviction is rather from ignorance.


                our chronicles are most likely late fakes. In the Radzivilovskaya chronicles they wrote both with one _s_, and with two, i.e. not yet decided in those days, what is right.
                For the word to have the suffix _sk_, it is first necessary that the word has the root_rus_, but there is no such root, because the whole Russian word is a proper name, without roots and suffixes.
                Many writers of the 19th century (Muravyov’s constitution, Minister of Education Shishkov) wrote Russian with one page.
                So it’s your beliefs that this later delusion introduced by the Germans.
                1. Flooding 8 January 2020 08: 22 New
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                  Quote: Bar2
                  our records are most likely late fakes.

                  There are not one or two historical sources with a similar spelling.
                  Specifically, to my source, what claims? Verbosity?
                  Quote: Bar2
                  In the Radzivilovskaya Chronicle they wrote both with one _s_ and with two, i.e. not yet decided in those days, what is right.

                  Ha ha ha !!! Really? You just wrote that spelling with two s is wrong. That annals are fake. And then enlightenment comes - they have not decided.
                  But you decided for them and decided how to.
                  Quote: Bar2
                  the whole Russian word is a proper name, without roots and suffixes.

                  Sorry, this seems like nonsense. You decided so easily to change the rules of the Russian language for yourself, citizen philologist?
                  Quote: Bar2
                  Many writers of the 19th century (Muravyov’s constitution, Minister of Education Shishkov) wrote Russian with one page.

                  And I didn’t say that they didn’t write with one. Be consistent.
                  You stated that writing with one s is the only correct spelling.
                  And then I changed clothes when I pointed out your error with a reference to historical sources. And there are a lot of them.
                  Quote: Bar2
                  So it’s your beliefs that this later delusion introduced by the Germans.

                  Are you seriously? I brought you a scan of a 15th century source! I can bring another half a dozen. And you assure that this is a delusion?
                  Be a man, be able to admit your wrong.
                  1. Bar2 8 January 2020 08: 30 New
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                    Quote: Flood
                    Be a man, be able to admit your wrong.

                    It's just not necessary to drive.
                    Any word must be written as it is read i.e. heard i.e. ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?
                    1. Flooding 8 January 2020 08: 38 New
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                      Quote: Bar2
                      Any word must be written as it is read i.e. is heard

                      The dream of a modern student.
                      Quote: Bar2
                      ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

                      Why should this be clear to me? From your words? And so you decided to redraw the rules of the Russian language for yourself? But at the same time to brand historical sources as suspicious and falsified, because they do not fit into the world you invented?
                    2. Flooding 8 January 2020 08: 50 New
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                      Quote: Bar2
                      ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

                      Well, there are no such "rules of philology."
                      Now on to the case. How do you comment on the post-revolutionary reform of the language and the rejection of many letters (yat, ep, etc.). What phonetic load did they carry? Are languages ​​that use letters that do not indicate sound? This is a nightmare and the collapse of your world!
                      But what about the reverse statement? What spelling affects pronunciation?
                      Examples? Yes, their mass! Before the revolution they wrote "best", it became "better." Before the war they wrote "exploitation", it became "exploitation".
                      So then, my opponent is philological sciences.
                      Find the strength to not be stubborn. It's hard to argue with the facts.
                    3. Bar2 8 January 2020 09: 01 New
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                      Quote: Flood
                      How do you comment on the post-revolutionary reform of the language and the rejection of many letters (yat, ep, etc.). What phonetic load did they carry?

                      Greek letters, introduced after Peter and the others, in the Russian language did not carry any sound or semantic load, therefore they were reduced. In my opinion, the Russian language did not become worse from this, but only won.
                      As for the corrections of words, this is a natural process, what the Russian people imposed on us by the Germans simply rejected and this was fixed by the rules after the revolution.
                    4. Flooding 8 January 2020 09: 08 New
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                      Quote: Bar2
                      ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

                      Quote: Bar2
                      Greek letters introduced after Peter and the rest in the Russian language did not carry any sound or semantic load, therefore they were reduced

                      You change your shoes too fast. I do not keep up with the course of your thoughts.
                      Quote: Bar2
                      As for the corrections of words, this is a natural process, what the Russian people imposed on us by the Germans simply rejected and this was fixed by the rules after the revolution.

                      You are extremely inattentive and careless. It’s not by chance that I took for example one Russian word and one word of foreign origin. It would seem, where does the Germans? But nothing bothers you. Even the fact that there are dozens, if not hundreds of such words. It's great when you can, without straining about logic, blame everything on the Germans.
                    5. Flooding 8 January 2020 09: 15 New
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                      Quote: Bar2
                      Greek letters introduced after Peter and the rest in the Russian language did not carry any sound or semantic load, therefore they were reduced

                      Illuminate again!
                      Minea common (1610)

                      As can be seen from the text, both yat and ep are present long before Peter.
                      Return to the original phonetics and write as they wrote from time immemorial.
                    6. Bar2 8 January 2020 09: 23 New
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                      Quote: Flood
                      Illuminate again!
                      Minea common (1610)


                      I have already said that the annals are corrected or altogether rewritten. It’s more difficult to exterminate folk traditions, the tsar-Germans could not do this and the rule is one thing, you have to write as you hear.
                      I am ending this pointless conversation.
  • Incvizitor 7 January 2020 23: 14 New
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    a state that has territorial problems.
    op etooooom estooontsy will wither later ...
  • Mavrikiy 7 January 2020 16: 02 New
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    Quote: Bar2
    in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

    Everything is simpler, they have nothing to eat and they want to be taken prisoner. request
    1. Bar2 7 January 2020 17: 20 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Quote: Bar2
      in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

      Everything is simpler, they have nothing to eat and they want to be taken prisoner. request


      if we take it, then only on our terms, no "equal / independent republics", but like the provinces of Russia, Courland, Livonia and Semigalia.
      1. Mavrikiy 7 January 2020 17: 24 New
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        Quote: Bar2
        if we take it, then only on our terms, no "equal / independent republics", but like the provinces of Russia, Courland, Livonia and Semigalia.
        hi No, Riga, Tallinn and Vilnius regions. negative
        1. pv1005 7 January 2020 18: 05 New
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          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Quote: Bar2
          if we take it, then only on our terms, no "equal / independent republics", but like the provinces of Russia, Courland, Livonia and Semigalia.
          hi No, Riga, Tallinn and Vilnius regions. negative

          Well, what for do we need three more governors with their apparatus? All in the Kaliningrad region.
  • Machito 7 January 2020 22: 04 New
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    Quote: Bar2
    in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

    It is good that Estonia refused to ratify the border treaty signed by Russian liberals. It's time to return the original Russian cities: Yuryev, Kolyvan and Narew.
  • figwam 7 January 2020 13: 48 New
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    The Soviet government is recognized as criminal, but they appreciate the agreement with this power))) You either remove the cross or put on your underpants.
    1. Thunderbolt 7 January 2020 14: 02 New
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      Quote: Udav Kaa
      Buying, yelling again?

      Now this is an American purchase. )))
      The ceremony of accession of Estonia to the North Atlantic Treaty on March 29, 2004 was held in the hall US Treasury.
      1. ltc35 7 January 2020 14: 37 New
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        In this case, the issue of NATO membership in Estonia should arise. There, it seems, NATO members should not have territorial disputes. Or am I misunderstood something?
      2. maidan.izrailovich 7 January 2020 15: 57 New
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        Now this is an American purchase. )))
        The solemn ceremony of Estonia’s accession to the North Atlantic Treaty on March 29, 2004 was held in the US Treasury Hall.

        If in this context, then this is not a "purchase", but theft.
        If this is a purchase, then Russia, as the rightful owner of these territories, should receive payment for them.
    2. Mavrikiy 7 January 2020 16: 17 New
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      Quote: figvam
      The Soviet regime is recognized as criminal, but they appreciate the agreement with this government)

      They are not the first, they are not the last. Finns from the king received half of Finland, Ruin half of the current territory. What we "took to the sword," we gave to the "brothers" for so. request
  • Finches 7 January 2020 14: 01 New
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    Estonia can take the path of one very highly civilized country - start the administration of the Pytalovsky district and Ivan-city, the police, other local authorities, include geography in their textbooks and teach children that these are native Estonian lands ... In history books, write what the great Estonian people formed all other peoples: Swedes, Finns, Latvians, Germans ... except for Ukrainians - they flew from space! This trend is now very fashionable - for example, the United States declares any point of the earth to be a zone of its national interests and Estonians can take the path of their owners without restricting themselves to the Pytalovo region - Chukotka - discovered by the great Estonian traveler Aavo Chukotkis in the 5th century BC. In honor of him, rename Tallinn - in Chukotkis, rename the streets and stick monuments everywhere! Raise a question at the UN! That is, here for Estonian nationalists there is an uncultivated field for activity - you don’t need to restrain yourself and limit yourself only to Ivan-city and the Pytalovsky district! laughing
  • Incvizitor 7 January 2020 20: 01 New
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    Oh well, there is no land for this “lanette-shelyak”, there are no minerals, it is populated by inhibited robots. lol
  • Mountain shooter 7 January 2020 13: 34 New
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    Will not ratify? Let's wait ... There is no border - it means no. And there is no country either?
    1. Sky strike fighter 7 January 2020 13: 40 New
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      Tallinn is ours.
      1. antivirus 7 January 2020 13: 47 New
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        right - Ezelnash and Tallinnnash
        they have friends, Finns-- let them calm down, otherwise Hankonash
        1. Kleber 7 January 2020 15: 11 New
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          They themselves are hinting to us. From the Grodno region along the Suvalka corridor. laughing
      2. Barmaleyka 7 January 2020 15: 23 New
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        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Tallinn is ours.

        Kolyvan is ours
    2. Polite Moose 7 January 2020 14: 18 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Will not ratify? Let's wait ...

      Well, what else remains for us when events of such historical significance take place in Estonia? The whole world stood still. Similarly, the foundations of the universe were staggering when Moldova pushed up the prices of parsley and dill on world stock exchanges.
    3. tihonmarine 7 January 2020 15: 47 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Let's wait ... There is no border - it means no. And there is no country either?

      That's right, and the conversations are different and unnecessary, just stop.
  • KVU-NSVD 7 January 2020 13: 39 New
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    Yes and figs with them. Present what thread counterclaims (in history is full of legally weak points) and the deal with the end ..
    1. mvg
      mvg 7 January 2020 13: 45 New
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      Present what thread counter claims

      well, at least on the map, or something, look what they want! although half of Ivangorod is already with dual citizenship. go to rest there, across the river. and in the crisis of 2014, they took ALL Ivangorod to themselves. Euro for 100 rubles
      1. KVU-NSVD 7 January 2020 13: 52 New
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        Quote: mvg
        Well, at least on the map, or something

        Yes, in general, and so I'm friends with geography
        in the crisis of 2014, ALL Ivangorods were brought to their place. Euro for 100 rubles
        Merchants in Ivangorod only profit
        Paul Ivangoroda and so with dual citizenship.
        The law does not prohibit.
        go to rest there, across the river
        Yes, iflag in hand, again, see paragraph 2 .. How does all this prevent counterclaims in the case of territorial claims of Kolyvan politicians?
        1. mvg
          mvg 7 January 2020 14: 34 New
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          Merchants in Ivangorod only profit

          what is the profit? fellow in the morning you sell crayfish for 3 rubles, and in the evening you buy them at the base for 5 rubles! the next day is the same. the euro grew gradually, strange arithmetic.
          and under paragraph 2, you just need to demolish these neo-Nazis. completely, it hurt they liked the bear to anger
      2. carstorm 11 7 January 2020 13: 53 New
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        as in any border city) on the border with the same China, at one time there they went out of town for the weekend) now it’s true that everyone was tired of it, but at one time the crowds wandered for the weekend or just walk for a day)
      3. tihonmarine 7 January 2020 15: 39 New
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        Quote: mvg
        well, at least on the map, or something, look what they want! although half of Ivangorod is already with dual citizenship. go to rest there, across the river.

        I won’t say anything about rest (there is no place to rest in Narva). But in the 90s we came to a friend in Narva, gave his father-in-law 100 crowns (about $ 8) and asked to bring 2 bottles of vodka, in an hour comes, brings 4 bottles and a stick of sausage. We were surprised, and he says "I ran across the bridge to Ivangorod." And everyone was good.
        1. mvg
          mvg 7 January 2020 16: 09 New
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          About rest I will not say anything

          beyond Narva there is Ust-Narva, on the banks of the Narova and the Finnish there are spa hotels, it is very comfortable and inexpensive there. On the Russian side, this is not.
          https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserReviews-g1136660-d1176590-r218738928-Meresuu_Spa_and_Hotel-Narva_Joesuu_Ida_Viru_County.html
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            Quote: mvg
            beyond Narva there is Ust-Narva, on the banks of the Narova and the Finnish there are spa hotels, it is very comfortable and inexpensive there.

            We don’t go there, the residents of Russia are resting there.
            1. mvg
              mvg 7 January 2020 17: 27 New
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              We do not go there

              Well, I’m close at hand. Hour if the border is empty. When they lived a little better than the Estonians, they looked at us as they looked at the Gods. But now it’s not bad. Are you not from Russia? Did not think.. hi
              1. tihonmarine 7 January 2020 17: 43 New
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                Quote: mvg
                Are you not from Russia? Did not think..

                From that side from Ivangorod through Narova.
                1. mvg
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                  it’s easier for you, but I am on this side
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                    Quote: mvg
                    it’s easier for you, but I am on this side

                    Yes, I have one, to Narva 2 hours 40 minutes by train, to Pärnu 2 hours by bus. But I go to Pärnu, there the sea is warmer and the weather is better, and more civil.
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                Quote: mvg
                Well, I’m close at hand. Hour if the border is empty. When they lived a little better than the Estonians, they looked at us as they looked at the Gods

                I already wrote about the 90s a little higher. And now you are not living badly.
                1. mvg
                  mvg 7 January 2020 17: 55 New
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                  you do not live badly

                  normal, but 90 is better. at the end of 90 years. 2008-2014 Golden Age. back at school in Norus, I went swimming twice a week. Shop Ocean, there were no such products in Russia. Even in St. Petersburg and prices.
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                    Quote: mvg
                    Shop Ocean, there were no such products in Russia. Even in St. Petersburg and prices.

                    Now in Russia, products are better.
                    1. mvg
                      mvg 7 January 2020 18: 17 New
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                      Now in Russia, products are better

                      Therefore, a half of Ivangorod runs to Narva for delicacies, and on VKontakte there are a lot of groups where they later sell grub and clothes. Autodismantling is cheap, there is the original. And in 2014, all the nearest stores in Russia really took out. I automated the store, 12000 products. Price tags changed 5-6 times a day. In 2 shifts. We came, bought 2 washers, 3 TVs and went to the Gold store ...
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                        Therefore, the field of Ivangorod runs to Narva for delicacies,

                        Yes, there are those who return late from work, take their own, and the rest of the carts and a pawn on the bridge and the pedestrian checkpoint for groceries.
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          But in the 90s we came to a friend in Narva, gave his father-in-law 100 crowns (about $ 8) and asked to bring 2 bottles of vodka, in an hour comes, brings 4 bottles and a stick of sausage. We were surprised, and he says "I ran across the bridge to Ivangorod." And everyone was good.

          +100500 good laughing
  • Rusland 7 January 2020 13: 40 New
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    State border is very sad laughing Merry Christmas to all, good and happiness in your home, Russians! hi
    1. LiSiCyn 7 January 2020 14: 09 New
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      Vitaliy, hi hi I join in the congratulations. drinks
      Quote: Rusland
      State border is very sad

      Some also pulled with the contract ... Now our Crimea.
      1. Rusland 7 January 2020 14: 19 New
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        Greetings to Stanislav! hi drinks It is simply difficult for the Baltic states to understand and get involved in reality, it is too painful for them to have a lot of helpers and tips, and even to their own mind. Well, Ukraine as an example for them does not roll, they themselves with a mustache. yes
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          Greetings to Stanislav! It’s hard for the Baltic states to understand and get involved in reality

          Here on the site we write that Estonia has not ratified the treaty. Officials know about it, but do people know or not?
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Rusland
            Greetings to Stanislav! It’s hard for the Baltic states to understand and get involved in reality

            Here on the site we write that Estonia has not ratified the treaty. Officials know about it, but do people know or not?

            Buddy hi I did not understand you, if you are from the Baltic states, this is one thing, and if from us it is even more so.
      2. ul_vitalii 7 January 2020 14: 28 New
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        But Kaliningrad began to threaten them and their prompters more severely with their finger, perhaps even with their fist. smile
        Greetings, Stas. hi
        1. Terenin 7 January 2020 15: 29 New
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          Back in March 2019, nationalists from the Conservative People's Party of Estonia (EKRE), who improved their positions in the Estonian parliament,

          Here it is, the result of our tolerant policy towards nationalist regimes.
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          Welcome hi
          That neither. Yak themselves pumping ... We are so troch for the cebe. Shmatochek air defense, that two-horned vodka for domestic consumption ... laughing
  • gregoryivanov 7 January 2020 13: 40 New
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    No border means a single country. Brake, without knowing it, joined Russia.
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      Quote: gregoryivanov
      No border means a single country. Brake, without knowing it, joined Russia.

      So we are now in NATO? belay
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      joined Russia.

      another strange, Europe feeds them right now, and now what are we? they have nothing but the port of Tallinn and tourism!
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      No border means a single country.

      Well, try to cross it, Russian border guards will plant you in Ivangorod.
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        Why the hell did this birthplace of brake fluid surrender to me? What did I forget there? There is no desire to go there, as well as, for example, in Yakutia
  • usr01 7 January 2020 13: 43 New
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    ... pug ... "she is strong to know, since she barks at the Elephant" (c) laughing tongue
  • Retvizan 8 7 January 2020 13: 47 New
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    In general, does anyone pay attention to this "muscle fuss" besides themselves?
    1. Kleber 7 January 2020 15: 24 New
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      Definitely pay attention. For example, the Russian media, which we are now commenting on.
    2. tihonmarine 7 January 2020 17: 19 New
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      In general, does anyone pay attention to this "muscle fuss" besides themselves?

      This is the most accurate answer.
  • Ros 56 7 January 2020 13: 49 New
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    Let them withdraw their signature and recognize no boundaries, one day it will come to their side.
  • Vita vko 7 January 2020 13: 51 New
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    Surely we should not ratify it. If we conclude a new border treaty and abandon those territories, this will have enormous legal consequences.

    In this case, Estonia should be expelled from NATO, as the main condition for entry was to be the absence of territorial claims.
  • ssm
    ssm 7 January 2020 13: 51 New
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    Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

    Estonia is getting ready for a big cap.
  • rocket757 7 January 2020 13: 53 New
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    Meaningless campaigns ..... do not recognize the existence of a state there, recall ambassadors and all.
    We are not interested in that direction.
  • thinker 7 January 2020 13: 58 New
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    The border treaty between Russia and Estonia was ratified in 2014.

    What is the article about then? The contract was signed foreign ministers.
  • Operator 7 January 2020 13: 58 New
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    The long-thinking Baltic states simply mean that their borders with Russia coincide with the Russian-Finnish laughing

    In general, the position of the Balts is clearly demonstrated by the fact that all Westerners are deeply alien to international law as such - their NATO charter prohibits participants from having unresolved territorial disputes with neighboring countries.

    But we still vainly recall the confederate agreement on the establishment of the USSR from the shaggy of 1922, which established the right to free exit of the Union republics from the confederation instead of recognizing the Russian Federation as the direct legal successor of the Russian Empire (in the part of the USSR we legally recognized ourselves as the “successor” and with this all UN members agreed).

    For reference - in addition to the Baltic states, Little Russia and Belarus, the Republic of Ingushetia included Finland, most of Poland, Kazakhstan and Central Asia.
  • bar
    bar 7 January 2020 13: 59 New
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    Another proud samurai laughing
  • eagle owl 7 January 2020 14: 00 New
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    Henn Pyllois

    Well this one ... Pipluasam - pipluassovo. But actually. they are right ... the triboltians are dying out. Well, what is your border - WITH EMPTY? !!!
  • Pacifist with AK 7 January 2020 14: 00 New
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    Why wonder? Ettti tummmayuttt, that on the kalllelendarre 1920 gottttt)))))))
  • kind 7 January 2020 14: 01 New
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    These cancers can no longer be cured, only removed. am
  • Lord of the Sith 7 January 2020 14: 06 New
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    they announced their intention to raise the issue of the territorial affiliation of the Russian Ivangorod: the territory beyond the Narva River, including Ivangorod


    Ivangorod was founded in the spring of 1492 (at the height of the Lithuanian War) by Moscow Prince Ivan III Vasilyevich and named in his honor, according to Russian chronicles: “by order of Grand Prince Ivan Vasilyevich, laying down a hail at the German border, against the city rogodiv German. On Narova, on Maiden’s Mountain on Sluda, four-cornered and named after him Ivangrad ”

    Banana to Estonians on the collar.
  • Dzafdet 7 January 2020 14: 10 New
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    Do you want compensation? Get the full restitution lawsuit. Enough already Chukhtsev regret. And while you are a part of the USSR, if you please, take into account inflation and pay compensation to the families of the dead soldiers of the Red Army during the liberation of Estonia from the Nazis. Also taking into account inflation.
  • Aliken 7 January 2020 14: 15 New
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    Then we will consider Estonia the territory of Russia, the successor to the USSR.
  • Strashila 7 January 2020 14: 24 New
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    The Russian Foreign Ministry should put on its website a photocopy of the deed of these lands with a demand to return the property under the EU Restitution Law.
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      The Russian Foreign Ministry should put on its website a photocopy of the deed of these lands with a demand to return the property under the EU Restitution Law.

      You can put a bill of sale at auction.
      1. Strashila 7 January 2020 18: 26 New
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        Nah, in the beginning to get, and then sell ... and not only Estonia.
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          Nah, in the beginning to get, and then sell ... and not only Estonia.

          All together, and include 2 lemons yefimkov. More will come out.
  • askort154 7 January 2020 14: 24 New
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    Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

    Fir-trees! Again the night is sleepless. crying
  • Gvardeetz77 7 January 2020 14: 30 New
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    The most interesting thing is that residents of Ivangorod and Narva are absolutely satisfied with the status of those separated by the river. A lot of people from both sides earn small smuggling (even within the limits allowed by law) and even if you imagine the accession of a half-city to any of the countries, then the losses for them will be significant
  • sergo1914 7 January 2020 14: 32 New
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    What is so all excited? The Estonian Parliament wants a border on the Baltic shelf. This is a difficult decision. Our diplomats are working. The main question is in French. What about kua? None of the parties can answer this question yet. Involved international intermediaries. An unnamed expert suggests making Estonia a part of North Korea. This required additional consultation of the fractions. A truck with a viskar is on its way.
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      The Estonian Parliament wants a border on the Baltic shelf.

      Yes, the main thing for them is that Russia recognize the Tartu Treaty. There is one small chip, so they need it.
  • Ross xnumx 7 January 2020 14: 35 New
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    Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

    Perhaps it is worth closing this controversial border until the circumstances are fully clarified?
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    KCA 7 January 2020 14: 37 New
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    That's all, I went to look for warm trousers and a T-shirt, the war will continue until the Pskov division is transferred, we have to fight for half an hour, the Estonians decided to reconsider something, they woke up, noishers, the same b-ds that Peter the Great simply bought were not expensive but in vain
  • Amateur 7 January 2020 14: 38 New
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    It would never come to foolish Chukhons that if one fine day, but “polite people” decide to restore the historical name of the city of Kolyvan from a big hangover (Russia soberly do not need them), then no one will intervene for them. Regular sanctions will be introduced to ban the import into Russia of natural truffles and foie gras liver to the delight of Belarusian shrimp agronomists. fellow
  • pmkemcity 7 January 2020 14: 44 New
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    It is believed that the name “Tallinn” in Estonian is derived from the words “taani linn” (“Danish city”).
    “Kolyvan”, of course, sounds gayropeically. But I would rename it to “Stallinn” on our maps - both consonantly and modernly. and for a long memory, as they say.
  • Livonetc 7 January 2020 14: 49 New
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    It's time to set global penalties.
    Probably worth starting with Narva?
  • The Siberian barber 7 January 2020 15: 00 New
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    Interestingly, the State Department cost the State Money in this indecent sound, this indecent sound?)) Bucks for 100 on the nose?)))
    And in general, Yuriev is at home!
  • tihonmarine 7 January 2020 15: 02 New
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    First, we will annul the Tartu Peace Treaty.
    Well, first you need to annul the Nistadt peace treaty, and compensate for the losses (Russia paid Sweden 2 million compensation for the land received).
  • Barmaleyka 7 January 2020 15: 13 New
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    Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia
    Well, return Kolyvan to Russia
  • Thrifty 7 January 2020 15: 19 New
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    And what is in this case, generally Estonia? Moreover, on our land is, for now !!!
  • Victor March 47 7 January 2020 15: 22 New
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    The absence of an agreement drawn up in law gives Russia the opportunity for any interpretation of the geographical location of the line, previously considered as borders between the republics of the USSR.
    And in such an unstable state near a stone threatening to collapse, can this louse be calm? Any sensible person would hasten to legalize relations, all the more so, being completely dependent both on one of his neighbors and on another. Balance and blackmail, in a situation where no one will rush to defend the culprit of the scandal, at the risk of himself being reduced to the position of the virus, will not, can only finally lost the coast.
  • 75 Sergey 7 January 2020 15: 33 New
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    Some more or less, what's the difference?
    Their number is 10.
  • cherkas.oe 7 January 2020 15: 46 New
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    All former Soviet neighborhoods, now “proudly great” and “independent powers," have one and the same fixed idea - to stick to Russia again, because it is “to blame” and “should”. Even the Belarusian father of Sumerian origin requires all Russian carriages at domestic prices, but does not want a single currency, taxation and legislation. Hence the conclusion - the memory of a freebie is eternal.
  • Ezekiel 25-17 7 January 2020 15: 48 New
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    In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..
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      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

      Such a desire is driven into the subcortex of scoops. Because they don’t survive, they can’t work productively (and live prosperously from it), but they don’t have a look at the well-fed life around them, the toad is crushing.
      1. mikh-korsakov 7 January 2020 16: 04 New
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        ssm! not scoops, but Soviet people. Firstly, before writing - at least learn the grammar of the Russian language "inachi" !. Hold on tightly to your trough and do not brag about it - the Russian people are patient, but on occasion and in the face ... How we work, we work - it's not your dog thing
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      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

      And here it is, they have already survived death, now they want us to take them prisoner.
  • evgen1221 7 January 2020 15: 54 New
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    That is, with the Esta-EU we have an undefined state border?
  • mikh-korsakov 7 January 2020 15: 57 New
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    "Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia" - and the sun went out, and plague and famine came in Russia. Only circling ravens over deserted roads.
  • Mavrikiy 7 January 2020 15: 58 New
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    Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia
    And it pleases. We draw the border west of Tallinn.
  • Rimlianin 7 January 2020 16: 17 New
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    It is interesting, if you ask the inhabitants of the disputed territories, in which state do they want to live, what would they answer? I guess the answer is obvious.
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      The answer is obvious - well, not in dying Estonia, of course!
  • ohka_new 7 January 2020 16: 26 New
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    Μολὼν λαβέ - come and take it, answered Leonid Xerxes
  • Kleber 7 January 2020 16: 35 New
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    All these semi-states are bold so far behind their backs.

    Here they are in Narva:
  • awg75 7 January 2020 16: 42 New
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    great news! it would be time for Russia to make counter claims)))) I think that EVERYTHING is fair)))
    1. Sirius-2 7 January 2020 17: 19 New
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      I could be wrong, but the city of Tartu seems to have been founded by the Russians as the city of Yuryev. So demand yourself Yuryev-Tartu, as the Poles require Lviv-Lviv. You look in Estonia are scared.
      1. cniza 7 January 2020 17: 54 New
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        Quote: awg75
        great news! it would be time for Russia to make counter claims)))) I think that EVERYTHING is fair)))


        What claims, let them give the money back with the interest that we paid for them to the Swedes, and then we'll talk.
      2. kit88 7 January 2020 18: 43 New
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        That's right.
        The first documentary evidence of this city dates back to 1030, when Yaroslav the Wise went on a campaign against the Chud and founded the city of Yuryev in accordance with his Christian name.
  • Dimmedroll 7 January 2020 17: 24 New
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    Hmm, and the Balts there too.
  • BARKHAN 7 January 2020 17: 25 New
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    As practice shows, any non-solution of problems with enemies now, simply shifting problems onto the shoulders of our children and grandchildren ...
    1. cniza 7 January 2020 17: 52 New
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      Or maybe not notice this "problem"? or is it so significant to us?
  • cniza 7 January 2020 17: 51 New
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    The Estonian-Russian state border line was agreed on in 2005, after almost 11 years of negotiations, and the border treaty between Russia and Estonia was ratified in 2014.


    Who is fueling these parliamentarians, so to speak? What they can count on, they have already been told - about someone’s ears ... It’s time to expel them from NATO or the big US bandit wants to have a reason for war with us?
  • PValery53 7 January 2020 18: 06 New
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    Since Estonian Chukhons refuse to sign papers, it means they want to say goodbye to something else ...
  • Victor March 47 7 January 2020 19: 39 New
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    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: Bar2
    in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

    Everything is simpler, they have nothing to eat and they want to be taken prisoner. request

    So you have to wait until they get completely overwhelmed by vitamin deficiency, take themselves prisoner and drag them by the hair in the CIS.
    Let them frankly say that they like this plate more than the modern life in the fields and toilets of Scandinavia.

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    Quote: ssm
    Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
    In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

    Such a desire is driven into the subcortex of scoops. Because they don’t survive, they can’t work productively (and live prosperously from it), but they don’t have a look at the well-fed life around them, the toad is crushing.



    Explain what scoops are we talking about? About those who kept this hebr on their shoulders, or those who hawala not earned