Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Once again, Estonia refuses to ratify the state border treaty with Russia. The governing coalition in Estonia has agreed that it will not do this, said Speaker of the Riigikogu (Estonian Parliament) Henn Põlluaas.

Estonia refuses to ratify the border treaty with Russia, even if the Russian side does so. The ruling coalition in the Estonian parliament will not sign an agreement already ratified by the Russian State Duma.

Surely we should not ratify it. If we conclude a new border treaty and abandon those territories, this will have enormous legal consequences. First, we will annul the Tartu Peace Treaty. In this regard, our succession is also canceled, which means an automatic change in the composition of our citizens, etc. This is an extremely dangerous path.

said Henn Pyllois.

Back in March 2019, nationalists from the Conservative People's Party of Estonia (EKRE), having improved their positions in the Estonian parliament, said they would withdraw Estonia’s signature on a border treaty with Russia. They also announced their intention to raise the issue of the territorial affiliation of the Russian Ivangorod: the territory beyond the Narva River, including Ivangorod, and parts of the present Pskov Region, or to demand monetary compensation for these lands that belonged to them from 1920 to 1940 according to the Tartu Treaty of 1920.

The Estonian-Russian state border line was agreed on in 2005, after almost 11 years of negotiations, and the border treaty between Russia and Estonia was ratified in 2014.

Comments

[Udav kaa]

Buying, yelling again?

[Bar2]

in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

[knn54]

In modern terms, the Baltic countries, like Finland, emerged from the "royal test tube", that is, artificial formations. Narva (Ivangorod) must be returned. The question to NATO is "we are violating", because we have accepted into the bloc a state that has territorial problems.
A purely cognitive question for the Estonians - have you at least brought your grammar "to mind"?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: knn54

The question to NATO is "we are violating", because we admitted to the bloc a state that has territorial problems

You have no doubt that for Nata, they’re striped: they’ll turn the law wherever they want ... And they pulled the former countries of the Warsaw Bloc and the ex-republics of the Union into the ground, spitting on everything ..

[Pete mitchell]

Here I am still wildly interesting: a question for the ousted to a colleague, God forbid, of course: do you regret that you were personally dragged into nature or any other ideas? Don't you agree with the pictures of the planes?

[novel66]

buddy spit saliva !! Well this is also a topic for us: but let's review !!! on weak !!! on a man !!!

[Pete mitchell]

no, well, give a chance to talk with the dissent
Just practice shows that it makes sense not to leave unsatisfied behind their back, especially when they finely shit

[novel66]

control in the head?

[Pete mitchell]

Roman, well, it’s impossible, we are civilized people: first you need to say hello, then how are you, and only then

Quote: novel xnumx

control in the head?

[novel66]

about! I heard it somewhere!
-Take me as your assistant!
-Well, being a private detective is not so easy ... For example, you can't just give someone in the face.
-But as?
-Go up to him, say something ... For example, "Look, the wave is rolling!". He told you: "What ???" - and you - rrrraz and in the face.

[Pete mitchell]

I rephrased O'Henry, but the meaning is the same

[novel66]

this is not it, this is the last boy scout movie

[Bar2]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

You have no doubt that for Nata, they’re striped: they’ll turn the law wherever they want ... And they pulled the former countries of the Warsaw Bloc and the ex-republics of the Union into the ground, spitting on everything ..

in general, of course, our relationship knew better times.

[Pete mitchell]

The trouble is with those with whom

Quote: Bar2

our relationship knew better times.

very short memory controlled by telephone. I’m also always amazed at the patience of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs; not remembering kinship

[DPN]

And the former countries of the Warsaw bloc and the former republics of the Union they pulled into the field, spit on everything ..
correctly holy place is never empty.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: knn54

A purely cognitive question for the Estonians - have you at least brought your grammar "to mind"?

I do not understand you. The Vatican is such a "mind" to Poland and the Ruin that questions disappear.

[Keyser soze]

The question to NATO is "we are violating", for we have accepted a state with territorial problems into the bloc.

Yes, in the EU no one pays attention to several marginals. There are such everywhere - with us, with you, in the EU and in Zanzibar. The Baltic states do not dare to utter an official voice, because they will receive from the rear both from NATO and the EU.

The question is, why do you pay attention to the pug? Well, peep and peep .... they can remember the Tartu treaty, they can remember Genghis Khan or the Harap civilization - God be with them, let them have fun.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Keyser Soze

in the EU, no one pays attention to several marginals. The Baltic states do not dare to utter an official voice, because they will receive from the rear both from NATO and the EU.

Let's be honest: in the EU, very few people dare to utter a laugh, and all these newborns democracy and even more so.

Quote: Keyser Soze

The question is, why do you pay attention to the pug .... God be with them, let them have fun.

Because generosity and patience here does not justify itself: after all, as small children, you don’t react, they try to climb on your neck

[Keyser soze]

because as small children - you don’t react, try to climb on your neck

"zero attention, a pound of contempt." Grandma learned it - I still remember. Golden phrase :)

Something, somewhere, someone blurted out and the media wrote. And they wrote because there is not enough money for smart journalists and interesting articles. It’s easier to search in nete and bungle news in 5 minutes ...

[Pete mitchell]

Grandmother respect, of course, but your words about smart journalists, but to God’s ears. Have you seen independent journalists for a long time?
This is not the situation, here it is better to adequately answer. If you have not yet encountered how public opinion is created, you are in luck.

[Bar2]

Quote: knn54

. Narva (Ivangorod) must be returned.

even without particularly straining into history, we can recall that
-Riga-Ruski is a shed for threshing wheat.
-Semigalia is a very strange name in the territory of Latvia and the capital of this region was called RI-Rezhitsa.
-Vilnius city / Vilnius is the Russian city of Volny.
River Neman / Memel is the Russian river Rusna, there is still the city of Rusna / Rus.
-the city of Koniksberg is the Russian city of Korolets, according to Andrey Vinius.
Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs should not be ashamed of this trifle, which spoils our blood and speak loudly and distinctly where the roots of all the "independent" Baltic states come from.

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

in Russian

Quote: Bar2

Russian

Do you write and speak Russian or "Russian"?

[Bar2]

Quote: Flood

Do you write and speak Russian or "Russian"?

I speak Russian and everyone else speaks Russian, not Russian. To double consonants without need is the rule not of Russian, but of German.

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

I speak Russian and everyone else speaks Russian, not Russian. To double consonants without need is the rule not of Russian, but of German.

In your world, who won the last hockey championship?

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

I speak Russian and everyone else speaks Russian, not Russian. To double consonants without need is the rule not of Russian, but of German

Efrosin's List of the XNUMXth Century

Page on the left, the third line from the bottom about russcom Prince Dmitry Ivanovich (Donskoy).
This was written by Andrei Karbyshev. That this is not about a double consonant, but about the use of the suffixes -k or -sk after the root of Russian.
So I'm sorry, but your conviction is rather from ignorance.

[Bar2]

Quote: Flood

This was written by Andrei Karbyshev. That this is not about a double consonant, but about the use of the suffixes -k or -sk after the root of Russian.
So I'm sorry, but your conviction is rather from ignorance.

our chronicles are most likely late fakes. In the Radzivilovskaya chronicles they wrote both with one _s_, and with two, i.e. not yet decided in those days, what is right.
For the word to have the suffix _sk_, it is first necessary that the word has the root_rus_, but there is no such root, because the whole Russian word is a proper name, without roots and suffixes.
Many writers of the 19th century (Muravyov’s constitution, Minister of Education Shishkov) wrote Russian with one page.
So it’s your beliefs that this later delusion introduced by the Germans.

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

our records are most likely late fakes.

There are not one or two historical sources with a similar spelling.
Specifically, to my source, what claims? Verbosity?

Quote: Bar2

In the Radzivilovskaya Chronicle they wrote both with one _s_ and with two, i.e. not yet decided in those days, what is right.

Ha ha ha !!! Really? You just wrote that spelling with two s is wrong. That annals are fake. And then enlightenment comes - they have not decided.
But you decided for them and decided how to.

Quote: Bar2

the whole Russian word is a proper name, without roots and suffixes.

Sorry, this seems like nonsense. You decided so easily to change the rules of the Russian language for yourself, citizen philologist?

Quote: Bar2

Many writers of the 19th century (Muravyov’s constitution, Minister of Education Shishkov) wrote Russian with one page.

And I didn’t say that they didn’t write with one. Be consistent.
You stated that writing with one s is the only correct spelling.
And then I changed clothes when I pointed out your error with a reference to historical sources. And there are a lot of them.

Quote: Bar2

So it’s your beliefs that this later delusion introduced by the Germans.

Are you seriously? I brought you a scan of a 15th century source! I can bring another half a dozen. And you assure that this is a delusion?
Be a man, be able to admit your wrong.

[Bar2]

Quote: Flood

Be a man, be able to admit your wrong.

It's just not necessary to drive.
Any word must be written as it is read i.e. heard i.e. ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

Any word must be written as it is read i.e. is heard

The dream of a modern student.

Quote: Bar2

ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

Why should this be clear to me? From your words? And so you decided to redraw the rules of the Russian language for yourself? But at the same time to brand historical sources as suspicious and falsified, because they do not fit into the world you invented?

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

Well, there are no such "rules of philology".
Now on to the case. How do you comment on the post-revolutionary reform of the language and the rejection of many letters (yat, ep, etc.). What phonetic load did they carry? Are languages ​​that use letters that do not indicate sound? This is a nightmare and the collapse of your world!
But what about the reverse statement? What spelling affects pronunciation?
Examples? Yes, there are a lot of them! Before the revolution they wrote "the best", it became "the best". Before the war, they wrote "exploitation", it became "exploitation".
So then, my opponent is philological sciences.
Find the strength to not be stubborn. It's hard to argue with the facts.

[Bar2]

Quote: Flood

How do you comment on the post-revolutionary reform of the language and the rejection of many letters (yat, ep, etc.). What phonetic load did they carry?

Greek letters, introduced after Peter and the others, in the Russian language did not carry any sound or semantic load, therefore they were reduced. In my opinion, the Russian language did not become worse from this, but only won.
As for the corrections of words, this is a natural process, what the Russian people imposed on us by the Germans simply rejected and this was fixed by the rules after the revolution.

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

ALL the rules of philology come from phonetics, is that clear to you?

Quote: Bar2

Greek letters introduced after Peter and the rest in the Russian language did not carry any sound or semantic load, therefore they were reduced

You change your shoes too fast. I do not keep up with the course of your thoughts.

Quote: Bar2

As for the corrections of words, this is a natural process, what the Russian people imposed on us by the Germans simply rejected and this was fixed by the rules after the revolution.

You are extremely inattentive and careless. It’s not by chance that I took for example one Russian word and one word of foreign origin. It would seem, where does the Germans? But nothing bothers you. Even the fact that there are dozens, if not hundreds of such words. It's great when you can, without straining about logic, blame everything on the Germans.

[Flooding]

Quote: Bar2

Greek letters introduced after Peter and the rest in the Russian language did not carry any sound or semantic load, therefore they were reduced

Illuminate again!
Minea common (1610)

As can be seen from the text, both yat and ep are present long before Peter.
Return to the original phonetics and write as they wrote from time immemorial.

[Bar2]

Quote: Flood

Illuminate again!
Minea common (1610)

I have already said that the annals are corrected or altogether rewritten. It’s more difficult to exterminate folk traditions, the tsar-Germans could not do this and the rule is one thing, you have to write as you hear.
I am ending this pointless conversation.

[Incvizitor]

a state that has territorial problems.

op etooooom estooontsy will wither later ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Bar2

in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

Everything is simpler, they have nothing to eat and they want to be taken prisoner.

[Bar2]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Quote: Bar2

in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

Everything is simpler, they have nothing to eat and they want to be taken prisoner.

if we take it, then only on our terms, no "equal / independent republics", but like the provinces of Russia, Courland, Livonia and Semigalia.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Bar2

if we take it, then only on our terms, no "equal / independent republics", but like the provinces of Russia, Courland, Livonia and Semigalia.

No, Riga, Tallinn and Vilnius regions.

[pv1005]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Quote: Bar2

if we take it, then only on our terms, no "equal / independent republics", but like the provinces of Russia, Courland, Livonia and Semigalia.

No, Riga, Tallinn and Vilnius regions.

Well, what for do we need three more governors with their apparatus? All in the Kaliningrad region.

[Machito]

Quote: Bar2

in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

It is good that Estonia refused to ratify the border treaty signed by Russian liberals. It's time to return the original Russian cities: Yuryev, Kolyvan and Narew.

[figwam]

The Soviet government is recognized as criminal, but they appreciate the agreement with this power))) You either remove the cross or put on your underpants.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Udav Kaa

Buying, yelling again?

Now this is an American purchase. )))
The ceremony of accession of Estonia to the North Atlantic Treaty on March 29, 2004 was held in the hall US Treasury.

[ltc35]

In this case, the issue of NATO membership in Estonia should arise. There, it seems, NATO members should not have territorial disputes. Or am I misunderstood something?

[maidan.izrailovich]

Now this is an American purchase. )))
The solemn ceremony of Estonia’s accession to the North Atlantic Treaty on March 29, 2004 was held in the US Treasury Hall.

If in this context, it is not a "purchase", but theft.
If this is a purchase, then Russia, as the rightful owner of these territories, should receive payment for them.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: figvam

The Soviet regime is recognized as criminal, but they appreciate the agreement with this government)

They are not the first, they are not the last. The Finns received half of Finland from the king, the ruin half of the present territory. What we "took on the sword", then gave the "brothers" for so.

[Finches]

Estonia can take the path of one very highly civilized country - start the administration of the Pytalovsky district and Ivan-city, the police, other local authorities, include geography in their textbooks and teach children that these are native Estonian lands ... In history books, write what the great Estonian people formed all other peoples: Swedes, Finns, Latvians, Germans ... except for Ukrainians - they flew from space! This trend is now very fashionable - for example, the United States declares any point of the earth to be a zone of its national interests and Estonians can take the path of their owners without restricting themselves to the Pytalovo region - Chukotka - discovered by the great Estonian traveler Aavo Chukotkis in the 5th century BC. In honor of him, rename Tallinn - in Chukotkis, rename the streets and stick monuments everywhere! Raise a question at the UN! That is, here for Estonian nationalists there is an uncultivated field for activity - you don’t need to restrain yourself and limit yourself only to Ivan-city and the Pytalovsky district!

[Incvizitor]

Well, her this "laneeta-shelezyaka" there is no land, no minerals, inhabited by inhibited robots.

[Mountain shooter]

Will not ratify? Let's wait ... There is no border - it means no. And there is no country either?

[Sky strike fighter]

Tallinn is ours.

[antivirus]

correct - "Eselnash" and "Tallinnash"
they have friends - Finns - let them calm down, otherwise "Hankonash"

[Kleber]

They themselves are hinting to us. From the Grodno region along the Suvalka corridor.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Tallinn is ours.

Kolyvan is ours

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Will not ratify? Let's wait ...

Well, what else remains for us when events of such historical significance take place in Estonia? The whole world stood still. Similarly, the foundations of the universe were staggering when Moldova pushed up the prices of parsley and dill on world stock exchanges.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Let's wait ... There is no border - it means no. And there is no country either?

That's right, and the conversations are different and unnecessary, just stop.

[KVU-NSVD]

Yes and figs with them. Present what thread counterclaims (in history is full of legally weak points) and the deal with the end ..

[mvg]

Present what thread counter claims

well, at least on the map, or something, look what they want! although half of Ivangorod is already with dual citizenship. go to rest there, across the river. and in the crisis of 2014, they took ALL Ivangorod to themselves. Euro for 100 rubles

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: mvg

Well, at least on the map, or something

Yes, in general, and so I'm friends with geography

in the crisis of 2014, ALL Ivangorods were brought to their place. Euro for 100 rubles

Merchants in Ivangorod only profit

Paul Ivangoroda and so with dual citizenship.

The law does not prohibit.

go to rest there, across the river

Yes, iflag in hand, again, see paragraph 2 .. How does all this prevent counterclaims in the case of territorial claims of Kolyvan politicians?

[mvg]

Merchants in Ivangorod only profit

what is the profit? in the morning you sell crayfish for 3 rubles, and in the evening you buy them at the base for 5 rubles! the next day is the same. the euro grew gradually, strange arithmetic.
and under paragraph 2, you just need to demolish these neo-Nazis. completely, it hurt they liked the bear to anger

[carstorm 11]

as in any border city) on the border with the same China, at one time there they went out of town for the weekend) now it’s true that everyone was tired of it, but at one time the crowds wandered for the weekend or just walk for a day)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

well, at least on the map, or something, look what they want! although half of Ivangorod is already with dual citizenship. go to rest there, across the river.

I will not say anything about rest (there is nowhere to rest in Narva). But in the 90s we came to a friend in Narva, gave his father-in-law 100 kroons (about 8 dollars) and asked to bring 2 bottles of vodka, an hour later he comes, brings 4 bottles and a stick of sausage. We were surprised, and he says "I ran across the bridge to Ivangorod." And everyone was good.

[mvg]

About rest I will not say anything

beyond Narva there is Ust-Narva, on the banks of the Narova and the Finnish there are spa hotels, it is very comfortable and inexpensive there. On the Russian side, this is not.
https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserReviews-g1136660-d1176590-r218738928-Meresuu_Spa_and_Hotel-Narva_Joesuu_Ida_Viru_County.html

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

beyond Narva there is Ust-Narva, on the banks of the Narova and the Finnish there are spa hotels, it is very comfortable and inexpensive there.

We don’t go there, the residents of Russia are resting there.

[mvg]

We do not go there

Well, I’m close at hand. Hour if the border is empty. When they lived a little better than the Estonians, they looked at us as they looked at the Gods. But now it’s not bad. Are you not from Russia? Did not think..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

Are you not from Russia? Did not think..

From that side from Ivangorod through Narova.

[mvg]

it’s easier for you, but I am on this side

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

it’s easier for you, but I am on this side

Yes, I have one, to Narva 2 hours 40 minutes by train, to Pärnu 2 hours by bus. But I go to Pärnu, there the sea is warmer and the weather is better, and more civil.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

Well, I’m close at hand. Hour if the border is empty. When they lived a little better than the Estonians, they looked at us as they looked at the Gods

I already wrote about the 90s a little higher. And now you are not living badly.

[mvg]

you do not live badly

normal, but 90 is better. at the end of 90 years. 2008-2014 Golden Age. back at school in Norus, I went swimming twice a week. Shop Ocean, there were no such products in Russia. Even in St. Petersburg and prices.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

Shop Ocean, there were no such products in Russia. Even in St. Petersburg and prices.

Now in Russia, products are better.

[mvg]

Now in Russia, products are better

Therefore, a half of Ivangorod runs to Narva for delicacies, and on VKontakte there are a lot of groups where they later sell grub and clothes. Autodismantling is cheap, there is the original. And in 2014, all the nearest stores in Russia really took out. I automated the store, 12000 products. Price tags changed 5-6 times a day. In 2 shifts. We came, bought 2 washers, 3 TVs and went to the Gold store ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mvg

Therefore, the field of Ivangorod runs to Narva for delicacies,

Yes, there are those who return late from work, take their own, and the rest of the carts and a pawn on the bridge and the pedestrian checkpoint for groceries.

[pv1005]

Quote: tihonmarine

But in the 90s we came to a friend in Narva, gave his father-in-law 100 kroons (about 8 dollars) and asked to bring 2 bottles of vodka, an hour later he comes, brings 4 bottles and a stick of sausage. We were surprised, and he says "I ran across the bridge to Ivangorod." And everyone was good.

+100500

[Russia]

State border is very sad Merry Christmas to all, good and happiness in your home, Russians!

[LiSiCyn]

Vitaliy, hi I join in the congratulations.

Quote: Rusland

State border is very sad

Some also pulled with the contract ... Now our Crimea.

[Russia]

Greetings to Stanislav! It is simply difficult for the Baltic states to understand and get involved in reality, it is too painful for them to have a lot of helpers and tips, and even to their own mind. Well, Ukraine as an example for them does not roll, they themselves with a mustache.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Rusland

Greetings to Stanislav! It’s hard for the Baltic states to understand and get involved in reality

Here on the site we write that Estonia has not ratified the treaty. Officials know about it, but do people know or not?

[Russia]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Rusland

Greetings to Stanislav! It’s hard for the Baltic states to understand and get involved in reality

Here on the site we write that Estonia has not ratified the treaty. Officials know about it, but do people know or not?

Buddy I did not understand you, if you are from the Baltic states, this is one thing, and if from us it is even more so.

[ul_vitalii]

But Kaliningrad began to threaten them and their prompters more severely with their finger, perhaps even with their fist.
Greetings, Stas.

[Terenin]

Back in March 2019, nationalists from the Conservative People's Party of Estonia (EKRE), who improved their positions in the Estonian parliament,

Here it is, the result of our tolerant policy towards nationalist regimes.

[LiSiCyn]

Welcome
That neither. Yak inject yourself ... We are so bad for the sebe. Shmatochek air defense, that vodka "two-horned" for domestic consumption ...

[gregoryivanov]

No border means a single country. Brake, without knowing it, joined Russia.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: gregoryivanov

No border means a single country. Brake, without knowing it, joined Russia.

So we are now in NATO?

[mvg]

joined Russia.

another strange, Europe feeds them right now, and now what are we? they have nothing but the port of Tallinn and tourism!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gregoryivanov

No border means a single country.

Well, try to cross it, Russian border guards will plant you in Ivangorod.

[gregoryivanov]

Why the hell did this birthplace of brake fluid surrender to me? What did I forget there? There is no desire to go there, as well as, for example, in Yakutia

[usr01]

... pug ... "to know she is strong, if she barks at the Elephant" (c)

[Retvizan 8]

In general, does anyone pay attention to this "muscle fuss" except for themselves?

[Kleber]

Definitely pay attention. For example, the Russian media, which we are now commenting on.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Retvizan 8

In general, does anyone pay attention to this "muscle fuss" except for themselves?

This is the most accurate answer.

[Ros 56]

Let them withdraw their signature and recognize no boundaries, one day it will come to their side.

[Vita vko]

Surely we should not ratify it. If we conclude a new border treaty and abandon those territories, this will have enormous legal consequences.

In this case, Estonia should be expelled from NATO, as the main condition for entry was to be the absence of territorial claims.

[ssm]

Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Estonia is getting ready for a big cap.

[rocket757]

Meaningless campaigns ..... do not recognize the existence of a state there, recall ambassadors and all.
We are not interested in that direction.

[thinker]

The border treaty between Russia and Estonia was ratified in 2014.

What is the article about then? The contract was signed foreign ministers.

[Operator]

The long-thinking Baltic states simply mean that their borders with Russia coincide with the Russian-Finnish

In general, the position of the Balts is clearly demonstrated by the fact that all Westerners are deeply alien to international law as such - their NATO charter prohibits participants from having unresolved territorial disputes with neighboring countries.

And we still recall in vain the confederal agreement on the establishment of the USSR from the shaggy 1922, which established the right to free withdrawal of the union republics from the confederation instead of recognizing the Russian Federation as the direct successor of the Russian Empire (in part of the USSR, we legally recognized ourselves as a "successor" and with this all UN members agreed).

For reference - in addition to the Baltic states, Little Russia and Belarus, the Republic of Ingushetia included Finland, most of Poland, Kazakhstan and Central Asia.

[bar]

Another proud samurai

[eagle owl]

Henn Pyllois

Well this one ... Pipluasam - pipluassovo. But actually. they are right ... the triboltians are dying out. Well, what is your border - WITH EMPTY? !!!

[Pacifist with AK]

Why wonder? Ettti tummmayuttt, that on the kalllelendarre 1920 gottttt)))))))

[kind]

These cancers can no longer be cured, only removed.

[Lord of the Sith]

they announced their intention to raise the issue of the territorial affiliation of the Russian Ivangorod: the territory beyond the Narva River, including Ivangorod

Ivangorod was founded in the spring of 1492 (at the height of the Lithuanian War) by Moscow Prince Ivan III Vasilyevich and named in his honor, according to Russian chronicles: “by order of Grand Prince Ivan Vasilyevich, laying down a hail at the German border, against the city rogodiv German. On Narova, on Maiden’s Mountain on Sluda, four-cornered and named after him Ivangrad ”

Banana to Estonians on the collar.

[Dzafdet]

Do you want compensation? Get the full restitution lawsuit. Enough already Chukhtsev regret. And while you are a part of the USSR, if you please, take into account inflation and pay compensation to the families of the dead soldiers of the Red Army during the liberation of Estonia from the Nazis. Also taking into account inflation.

[Aliken]

Then we will consider Estonia the territory of Russia, the successor to the USSR.

[Strashila]

The Russian Foreign Ministry should put on its website a photocopy of the deed of these lands with a demand to return the property under the EU Restitution Law.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Strashila

The Russian Foreign Ministry should put on its website a photocopy of the deed of these lands with a demand to return the property under the EU Restitution Law.

You can put a bill of sale at auction.

[Strashila]

Nah, in the beginning to get, and then sell ... and not only Estonia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Strashila

Nah, in the beginning to get, and then sell ... and not only Estonia.

All together, and include 2 lemons yefimkov. More will come out.

[askort154]

Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Fir-trees! Again the night is sleepless.

[Gvardeetz77]

The most interesting thing is that residents of Ivangorod and Narva are absolutely satisfied with the status of those separated by the river. A lot of people from both sides earn small smuggling (even within the limits allowed by law) and even if you imagine the accession of a half-city to any of the countries, then the losses for them will be significant

[sergo1914]

What is so all excited? The Estonian Parliament wants a border on the Baltic shelf. This is a difficult decision. Our diplomats are working. The main question is in French. What about kua? None of the parties can answer this question yet. Involved international intermediaries. An unnamed expert suggests making Estonia a part of North Korea. This required additional consultation of the fractions. A truck with a viskar is on its way.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sergo1914

The Estonian Parliament wants a border on the Baltic shelf.

Yes, the main thing for them is that Russia recognize the Tartu Treaty. There is one small chip, so they need it.

[Ross xnumx]

Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Perhaps it is worth closing this controversial border until the circumstances are fully clarified?

[KCA]

That's all, I went to look for warm trousers and a T-shirt, the war will continue until the Pskov division is transferred, we have to fight for half an hour, the Estonians decided to reconsider something, they woke up, noishers, the same b-ds that Peter the Great simply bought were not expensive but in vain

[Amateur]

It will never reach the stupid Chukhonts that if one fine day, but with a big hangover (Russia doesn’t need them sober), “polite people” decide to restore the historical name of the city of Kolyvan, then no one will stand up for them. New sanctions will be introduced to ban the import of natural truffles and foie gras liver into Russia to the delight of Belarusian agronomists specializing in shrimp cultivation.

[pmkemcity]

It is believed that the name “Tallinn” in Estonian is derived from the words “taani linn” (“Danish city”).
"Kolyvan", of course, sounds gay-European. But I would rename it on our maps as "Stallinn" - both in tune and modern. and for a long memory, as they say.

[Livonetc]

It's time to set global penalties.
Probably worth starting with Narva?

[The Siberian barber]

Interestingly, the State Department cost the State Money in this indecent sound, this indecent sound?)) Bucks for 100 on the nose?)))
And in general, Yuriev is at home!

[tihonmarine]

First, we will annul the Tartu Peace Treaty.

Well, first you need to annul the Nistadt peace treaty, and compensate for the losses (Russia paid Sweden 2 million compensation for the land received).

[Barmaleyka]

Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

Well, return Kolyvan to Russia

[Thrifty]

And what is in this case, generally Estonia? Moreover, on our land is, for now !!!

[Victor March 47]

The absence of an agreement drawn up in law gives Russia the opportunity for any interpretation of the geographical location of the line, previously considered as borders between the republics of the USSR.
And in such an unstable state near a stone threatening to collapse, can this louse be calm? Any sensible person would hasten to legalize relations, all the more so, being completely dependent both on one of his neighbors and on another. Balance and blackmail, in a situation where no one will rush to defend the culprit of the scandal, at the risk of himself being reduced to the position of the virus, will not, can only finally lost the coast.

[75 Sergey]

Some more or less, what's the difference?
Their number is 10.

[cherkas.oe]

All the former Soviet neighborhoods, and now the "proud" and "independent powers", have the same fix idea - to stick to Russia again, because it is "to blame" and "must." Even the Belarusian father of Sumerian origin requires all Russian gingerbreads at domestic Russian prices, but does not want a single currency, taxation and legislation. Hence the conclusion - the memory of the freebie is eternal.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

[ssm]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

Such a desire is driven into the subcortex of scoops. Because they don’t survive, they can’t work productively (and live prosperously from it), but they don’t have a look at the well-fed life around them, the toad is crushing.

[mikh-korsakov]

ssm! not scoops, but Soviet people. First, before you write - at least learn the grammar of the Russian language "inachi"! Hold on tightly to your trough and do not brag - the Russian people are patient, but on occasion, and in the face ... How we work, so we work is not your dog's business

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

And here it is, they have already survived death, now they want us to take them prisoner.

[evgen1221]

That is, with the Esta-EU we have an undefined state border?

[mikh-korsakov]

"Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia" - and the sun went out, and pestilence and famine set in in Russia. Only crows are circling over deserted roads.

[Mavrikiy]

Estonia again refused to ratify the state border treaty with Russia

And it pleases. We draw the border west of Tallinn.

[Rimlianin]

It is interesting, if you ask the inhabitants of the disputed territories, in which state do they want to live, what would they answer? I guess the answer is obvious.

[Rimlianin]

The answer is obvious - well, not in dying Estonia, of course!

[ohka_new]

Μολὼν λαβέ - come and take it, answered Leonid Xerxes

[Kleber]

All these semi-states are bold so far behind their backs.

Here they are in Narva:

[awg75]

great news! it would be time for Russia to make counter claims)))) I think that EVERYTHING is fair)))

[Sirius-2]

I could be wrong, but the city of Tartu seems to have been founded by the Russians as the city of Yuryev. So demand yourself Yuryev-Tartu, as the Poles require Lviv-Lviv. You look in Estonia are scared.

[cniza]

Quote: awg75

great news! it would be time for Russia to make counter claims)))) I think that EVERYTHING is fair)))

What claims, let them give the money back with the interest that we paid for them to the Swedes, and then we'll talk.

[kit88]

That's right.
The first documentary evidence of this city dates back to 1030, when Yaroslav the Wise went on a campaign against the Chud and founded the city of Yuryev in accordance with his Christian name.

[Dimmedroll]

Hmm, and the Balts there too.

[BARKHAN]

As practice shows, any non-solution of problems with enemies now, simply shifting problems onto the shoulders of our children and grandchildren ...

[cniza]

Or maybe not notice this "problem"? or is it so important to us?

[cniza]

The Estonian-Russian state border line was agreed on in 2005, after almost 11 years of negotiations, and the border treaty between Russia and Estonia was ratified in 2014.

Who is fueling these parliamentarians, so to speak? What they can count on, they have already been told - about someone’s ears ... It’s time to expel them from NATO or the big US bandit wants to have a reason for war with us?

[PValery53]

Since Estonian Chukhons refuse to sign papers, it means they want to say goodbye to something else ...

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Quote: Bar2

in general, we must recall the old days when the city of Tallinn / Revel was called Kolyvan in Russian language and there were no Estonians / Easterners on these lands, and in accordance with this, we correct the borders.

Everything is simpler, they have nothing to eat and they want to be taken prisoner.

So you have to wait until they get completely overwhelmed by vitamin deficiency, take themselves prisoner and drag them by the hair in the CIS.
Let them frankly say that they like this plate more than the modern life in the fields and toilets of Scandinavia.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: ssm

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

In ests, where under the crust of the brain sits a desire for war with Russia, and of death ..

Such a desire is driven into the subcortex of scoops. Because they don’t survive, they can’t work productively (and live prosperously from it), but they don’t have a look at the well-fed life around them, the toad is crushing.

Explain what scoops are we talking about? About those who kept this hebr on their shoulders, or those who hawala not earned

[Kerensky]

What kind of mortar is in the photo? It shines through on the plate.

[iouris]

Estonia is a province of the EU. Territorial claims arose among the EU and NATO. And for a long time. They are also not satisfied with the population.

[arhPavel]

They intensify the fading interest in themselves on the part of the hegemon.

[Sapsan136]

In this case, Russia should make territorial claims against the Estonians and demand that they get out of the territories that Peter the Great bought from Sweden, and this is ALL of their Estonia

[⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo]

Nationalists from the conservative People's Party of Estonia (EKRE), who have improved their position in the Estonian parliament, said they would withdraw Estonia's signature on the border treaty with Russia.

Why mess up the paper, then they put it in, then they withdraw it. No Estonian parliament - no need for paperwork