Large-scale F-35 exercises conducted in the USA with alleged development of Iran’s S-300 destruction

Large-scale F-35 exercises conducted in the USA with alleged development of Iran’s S-300 destruction

Against the background of the aggravation of the situation in connection with the elimination of the Iranian general, the USA conducted the most ambitious trainings in recent years with the participation of the latest F-35 fighters. We are talking about the maneuvers of the 388th and reserve 419th fighter regiments.


In total, 52 F-35A fighter jets were engaged in maneuvers at Hill Air Force Base in Utah. By chance or not, but the number of planes coincided with the number of objects in Iran, which Donald Trump threatened with blows the other day.

The U.S. Air Force command notes that the training at Hill Airbase is associated with tests on the effectiveness of the technical personnel, coordination of various aviation units in the performance of the assigned combat training mission, and the development of strikes against both ground and air targets. Separately practiced measures to inflict damage to ground-based air defense assets of the conditional enemy.

Recall that the Iranian armed forces have Russian-made S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as their own Bavar-373 air defense systems, which are believed to have been created on the basis of the aforementioned S-300s.

Thus, a large-scale training involving 52 F-35A fighters in that part where attacks on air defense assets of the “conditional enemy” were practiced can be connected with practicing possible attacks on the S-300 and other Iranian systems. Given that Trump has several times threatened Iran with bombing of the country's cultural and architectural values, it can be assumed that this scenario is being worked out by the US Air Force.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins 7 January 2020 11: 03 New
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    By chance or not, ? Yes what accident there !!!
    1. knn54 7 January 2020 11: 25 New
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      In the fall of 2018, in Ukraine, Israeli pilots on the F-15 S (4th generation) tested the S-300. The United States acquired the locator included in this complex.
      According to preliminary data, the F-35 (after some modifications) can cope with the S-300.
      1. Thrifty 7 January 2020 11: 44 New
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        Knn54-With which version of the C300? What versions of this complex of those that are in service with us are available in Ukraine? ??
        1. knn54 7 January 2020 12: 38 New
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          Thrifty, and which in Syria, Iran? Obviously not the LAST version, but the export version. And the Yankees. Nevertheless, it is not in vain that they continue the teachings.
          1. Thrifty 7 January 2020 12: 56 New
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            Knn54 - the difference between our C300 and those that are on u-kroin is huge! Ours will be newer and much better, because we care about technology, our modernization and Ukrainian-is heaven and earth! !!!!!!!
            1. krot 7 January 2020 16: 48 New
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              Striped little September 11th? They want this to happen in every city ..
              1. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 34 New
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                What did you mean?
                In addition, they made certain conclusions.
          2. Vadim237 7 January 2020 13: 35 New
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            In Ukraine From 300 to the end of the 70s and the beginning of the 80s.
            1. polar fox 7 January 2020 14: 03 New
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              Quote: Vadim237
              In Ukraine From 300 to the end of the 70s and the beginning of the 80s

              so they were put into service in the 80s ... in Ukraine earlier? than they did?
              1. askort154 7 January 2020 14: 51 New
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                polar fox ....so they were put into service in the 80s ... in Ukraine earlier? than they did?

                The first S-300 PT entered combat duty in 1979, and in 2011 it was discontinued. New versions of the S-300 PMU-1, S-300 PMU-2 Favorite, and subsequent series, have not already been delivered to Ukraine.
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      2. voyaka uh 7 January 2020 11: 52 New
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        And to place the S-400 in Hmeimim, near the sea, you think it was a smart idea?
        Territorial waters - only 23 km.
        You can fly up, “pull” the radar on alert and read the frequencies completely quietly.
        1. Genry 7 January 2020 14: 53 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          and read frequencies perfectly calmly

          What frequencies? Frequencies were relevant for old-time radars, there was no frequency adjustment and digital signal signature ....
          1. voyaka uh 7 January 2020 15: 20 New
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            "there was no frequency adjustment and digital signature of the signal" ////
            ----
            Any encrypted algorithm, when written, can be decrypted.
            Now Cyber ​​is very popular.
            Hundreds of firms are doing this.
            Give them any long set of numbers, and in a couple of minutes (rarely hours) the software will write down all the possible patterns in this set.
            ----
            Why is it now engaged in a quantum code? Because ordinary crack like nuts, playfully.
            1. Genry 7 January 2020 15: 49 New
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              Quote: voyaka uh
              Any encrypted algorithm, when written, can be decrypted.

              Forgot about the time of endurance ... You have time to decrypt only until the return of the reflected signal.
              1. krot 7 January 2020 16: 50 New
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                And to place the S-400 in Hmeimim, near the sea, you think it was a smart idea?

                I think in the General Staff people are smarter than you think)
                1. aszzz888 8 January 2020 02: 20 New
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                  krot (Paul) Yesterday, 16: 50
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                  And to place the S-400 in Hmeimim, near the sea, you think it was a smart idea?

                  I think in the General Staff people are smarter than you think)

                  This is the General Staff sofa worker. USE is visible and audible to him. laughing Because the blizzard and drives.
                2. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 37 New
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                  And obviously smarter than in America, the same are all stupid)
                  Always come up with something new and additional information may come in handy.
            2. aszzz888 8 January 2020 02: 17 New
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              voyaka uh (Alexey) Yesterday, 15:20 Any encrypted algorithm, when it is written, decipherable.

              Especially when on the couch, and with the "clave". laughing
        2. Dzafdet 7 January 2020 15: 11 New
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          What `s next ? Do you want EW in the nozzle? I think the General Staff is far from being fools. And where will the Americans fly to Iran? With an aircraft carrier? The Iranians will be able to drown him. Air refueling?
          the barn gets off one or two ...
          1. Astronaut 7 January 2020 21: 51 New
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            I think the General Staff is far from fools

            You are wrong, all the geniuses of the strategy are sitting on the VO site laughing
        3. Pup1 7 January 2020 21: 57 New
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          They laughed .... don't smoke
        4. aszzz888 8 January 2020 02: 15 New
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          voyaka uh (Alexey) Yesterday, 11: 52
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          And to place the S-400 in Hmeimim, near the sea, you think it was a smart idea?
          Territorial waters - only 23 km.
          You can fly up, “pull” the radar on alert and read the frequencies completely calmabout.

          Don’t fucking bullshit, "reader"! wassat
        5. Alexey LK 8 January 2020 21: 27 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          And to place the S-400 in Hmeimim, near the sea, you think it was a smart idea?

          And where, in your opinion, would it be a smart idea to place it, if not in Hmeimim? Really west of Damascus? Or maybe right on the Golan Heights? wink
      3. Vladimir_6 7 January 2020 12: 20 New
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        Quote: knn54
        According to preliminary data, the F-35 (after some modifications) can cope with the S-300.

        This is by preliminary. And what will happen (if at all) on the actual - Allah knows him.
        1. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 39 New
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          With the S-300 can and F16 cope. Lossless (except for accidents).
          The point is tactics.
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      6. mmaxx 8 January 2020 08: 12 New
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        What is in Ukraine, come on, it still works on lamps?
    2. Chaldon48 7 January 2020 11: 53 New
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      What an accident, the shaitan beguiled them! Ah, the evil spirit is strong!
    3. tihonmarine 7 January 2020 12: 25 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      By chance or not? What a coincidence!

      The Gunboat Diplomacy is nothing new.
  2. Same lech 7 January 2020 11: 05 New
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    It is just necessary to saturate Iran’s air defense with modern S-400s and train their officers in modern methods of war with the US and Israeli air forces.
    This couple is the main enemy of Iran.
    1. Vol4ara 7 January 2020 11: 19 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      It is just necessary to saturate Iran’s air defense with modern S-400s and train their officers in modern methods of war with the US and Israeli air forces.
      This couple is the main enemy of Iran.

      For whose money?
      1. kjhg 7 January 2020 11: 43 New
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        Quote: Vol4ara
        For whose money?

        How for whose? For the money of Alexei of course. This is his suggestion. He can’t offer to saturate Iran’s air defense with my money and the money of my family. Moreover, Iran did not turn to Russia with requests for procurement of S-400. Money, they say, pity them. And the Chinese, Iran’s main friends and partners, are not in a hurry to harness for them. But Alexei does not mind. Generous man Alexei, kind. Maybe the Iranians will thank him for that. And then they will hit me in the back when it is not needed.
        1. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 03 New
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          But Alexei does not mind. Generous man Alexei, kind.

          Well, why lie then ... you probably have not read my previous comments on this matter ... the Iranians will find both currency and oil in return.
          Iranians will not hit in the back ... hit in the back like Jews.
          The Iranians just supported our country on many issues of foreign policy, unlike Israel ... so no need to lie on my behalf.
          1. kjhg 7 January 2020 12: 14 New
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            Quote: The same Lech
            Well, why lie then.

            Yes, I did not lie, Alex. That was the irony. I understand that neither you nor I have and never will have that kind of money.
            Quote: The same Lech
            Iranians will have both currency and oil in return

            So much money is not found. Iran now has an extremely difficult financial situation. But it may well pay off with oil. It may still allow us to place our base somewhere closer to the Persian Gulf. But this is later when everything calms down. It is not in our interests to have a direct military clash with America over Iran. To help with weapons, information is YES. Directly get involved in the conflict - absolutely NO, sorry.
            1. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 18 New
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              To help with weapons, information is YES. Directly get involved in the conflict - absolutely NO, sorry.

              This is exactly what I suggest. smile what
              Despite the fact that Iran, under the authority of an ayatollah, is not in our interests to throw Iran into the greedy mouth of the USA ... otherwise it will turn out like after the defeat of Iraq after which ISIS was formed on its territory ... whose members seek to settle in Russia ... that’s what I I’m more afraid.
            2. tihonmarine 7 January 2020 12: 22 New
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              Quote: kjhg
              Yes, I did not lie, Alex. That was the irony. I understand that neither you nor I have and never will have that kind of money.

              Well, thank God at least we agreed on this.
            3. Vasyan1971 7 January 2020 13: 55 New
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              Quote: kjhg
              So much money is not found.

              At the moment, the most important thing is time. And, as if the story with the purchase of Iraqi generals would not be repeated ...
          2. Bshkaus 7 January 2020 12: 43 New
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            Iranians just supported our country on many foreign policy issues, unlike Israel

            You tell the Tu-22 pilots when they were first allowed to land on Iranian airfields, and publicly refused the next day.
            1. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 45 New
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              Well, to remind you how Medvedev offended the Iranians in violation of the contract for the supply of S-300 under Israeli pressure ... Is this normal?
              1. Edik 7 January 2020 18: 34 New
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                Quote: The same Lech
                S-300 under pressure from Israel

                There was an embargo on the supply of arms to Iran from the UN! Alexei, you should know that.
                1. Same lech 7 January 2020 22: 20 New
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                  And who was pushing this decision to the UN ... the pro-Israeli loophole is Edik, you should also know.
                2. Shteffan 7 January 2020 23: 24 New
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                  The embargo was only about offensive weapons, you should have known that. The S-300 has defensive weapons. But DAM still bent under the Jews.
              2. mmaxx 8 January 2020 08: 17 New
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                There was a big political and economic game. It is quite reasonable from the point of view of Russia. Iran is not our ally. Generally.
      2. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 05 New
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        For whose money?
        Of course there is no money for money, you can pay with oil. smile
        1. Vol4ara 7 January 2020 14: 04 New
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          Quote: The same Lech
          Of course there is no money for money, you can pay with oil.

          We have enough of our own, it’s now more difficult to sell it for good money. Let them pay with gold or currency, what for do we need their oil?
        2. Edik 7 January 2020 18: 35 New
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          Quote: The same Lech
          Of course there is no money for money, you can pay with oil.

          Barter is good wink This is a departure from greenbacks.
    2. Antidote 7 January 2020 11: 20 New
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      This requires eggs and time, the first is not in the Russian Federation, the second is in Iran.
      1. Sky strike fighter 7 January 2020 12: 26 New
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        Quote: Antidote
        This requires eggs and time, the first is not in the Russian Federation, the second is in Iran.

        Tell the Pentagon. The rats ran from the ship.
        The chief of staff of the US Department of Defense resigned.

        Pentagon chief of staff Eric Chuning, amid a likely military conflict between the US and Iran, unexpectedly resigned. It is not known what exactly Chuning’s desire to leave his office is connected with, however, it is reported that serious disagreements with the position of Trump and Pompeo on the current situation in the Middle East are reported, as several unofficial sources report.

        1. Bshkaus 7 January 2020 12: 52 New
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          Tell the Pentagon. The rats ran from the ship.

          For example, I also drink tea from a cup, beer from a beer mug, whiskey glasses, and vodka in buckets.
          I mean, for each task, its own tools are needed, and the head (Pentagon chief of staff) is primarily a person with a set of psychological features, and in the aggregate a tool. In peacetime, there are one task, for example, building up military capabilities, and one person will be better able to do this, in the threatened period it will be possible for another to develop competent plans, and, roughly speaking, an order to launch nuclear missiles can be issued by a person with completely different qualities that the first and second.
          At the Pentagon, the task has changed and the person who is best able to cope with it is put at the forefront. When the need arises to make peace, believe me, immediately to replace the "hawk" they will find a suitable "make" a candidate.
        2. Vol4ara 7 January 2020 14: 09 New
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          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Quote: Antidote
          This requires eggs and time, the first is not in the Russian Federation, the second is in Iran.

          Tell the Pentagon. The rats ran from the ship.
          The chief of staff of the US Department of Defense resigned.

          Pentagon chief of staff Eric Chuning, amid a likely military conflict between the US and Iran, unexpectedly resigned. It is not known what exactly Chuning’s desire to leave his office is connected with, however, it is reported that serious disagreements with the position of Trump and Pompeo on the current situation in the Middle East are reported, as several unofficial sources report.

          Who is reporting?

          I feel this as in the story with the Khibiny and Su24, on which the Khibiny are not put and the Donald Cook, from which “however it was reported”, almost half the crew was written off ashore. It turned out everything - yellow bullshit
        3. Doliva63 7 January 2020 16: 26 New
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          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Quote: Antidote
          This requires eggs and time, the first is not in the Russian Federation, the second is in Iran.

          Tell the Pentagon. The rats ran from the ship.
          The chief of staff of the US Department of Defense resigned.

          Pentagon chief of staff Eric Chuning, amid a likely military conflict between the US and Iran, unexpectedly resigned. It is not known what exactly Chuning’s desire to leave his office is connected with, however, it is reported that serious disagreements with the position of Trump and Pompeo on the current situation in the Middle East are reported, as several unofficial sources report.

          I wonder how the "chief of staff of the Ministry of Defense" is translated?
        4. Private-K 7 January 2020 22: 07 New
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          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Pentagon chief of staff Eric Chuning, amid a likely military conflict between the US and Iran, unexpectedly resigned. It is not known what exactly Chuning’s desire to leave his office is connected with, however, it is reported that serious disagreements with the position of Trump and Pompeo on the current situation in the Middle East are reported, as several unofficial sources report.


          To name the position occupied by Chuning as "the chief of staff of the Pentagon" for Russian-speaking readers means to mislead them. In fact, we are talking about the Chief of the Office of the Secretary of Defense of the United States. You can not do a direct translation of the terms.
          Yes, he quits due to the situation of the intra-American struggle of global Clintonites and Trampist-Renaissance - Chunning is seen in Clintonism.
    3. YOUR 7 January 2020 11: 22 New
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      In our country, the main air defense system in the VKS S-300. The S-400 is only 54 air defense systems, 27 regiments of two divisions, and you are so easy to return to Iran. They have already sent to Turkey. What else do you offer to give?
      1. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 08 New
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        and you are so easy to give to Iran

        Do not give but sell ... do not replace my comment with your fiction ... offered to sell the GDP to the Turks SU-57 ... so the Persians can sell the S-400 and SU-57.
        1. Vadim237 7 January 2020 13: 38 New
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          Iran primarily needs radars such as Gamma, as well as Armor and Torah.
          1. YOUR 8 January 2020 03: 22 New
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            We need them in the first place, why do we need to give them to Iran?
    4. ML-334 7 January 2020 11: 23 New
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      Try to unify with our air defense in Syria.
      1. Bshkaus 7 January 2020 12: 56 New
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        Try to unify with our air defense in Syria.

        We have already tried to bring the entire socialist world into a single system with our economy - the complete garbage came out: we ourselves were left without pants, but it’s not easy to remember the rest;)
        1. Edik 7 January 2020 18: 39 New
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          Quote: Bshkaus
          We have already tried to bring the entire socialist world into a single system with our economy - the complete garbage turned out: we ourselves were left without pants,

          But the pants made of natural fabric remained, not like now!
          1. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 47 New
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            Empty words, nothing more to say on the merits?
      2. SovAr238A 7 January 2020 13: 28 New
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        Quote: ML-334
        Try to unify with our air defense in Syria.


        for starters you would have to learn ... Well, or at least look. One time.
    5. LiSiCyn 7 January 2020 11: 25 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      It’s just necessary to saturate Iran’s air defense with modern S-400

      Give your own? Or turkish? Again, what do you think, saturate? We can’t saturate our air defense.
      "Impact on cultural objects" fool : How are the US different from the Taliban and Daesh? Some statues of Buddha destroyed. Other Palmyra. Level of course negative Or do they hope that the people of Iran, in order to preserve the shrines, will immediately throw off the power of Ayatollah?
      1. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 09 New
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        Give your own? Or turkish? Again, what do you think, saturate? We can’t saturate our air defense.

        We don’t give but sell ... we saturate the world market with our weapons ... which the Americans are very afraid of.
        1. LiSiCyn 7 January 2020 12: 24 New
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          Alexei, what difference do we give - we sell ... The question is where to get it? So far, only China and Turkey have been supplied and even more for review ...
          Cover the enclave (Kaliningrad - Crimea) with the S-400 regiment, this is one thing. Covering Iran is another. Distances (areas) are different. Yes, and not enough time. Nobody will wait a year.
          1. Same lech 7 January 2020 12: 31 New
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            Yes, and not enough time. Nobody will wait a year.

            I agree ... this game was played out in the expectation of a lack of time ... let's see how things will develop further. hi
            1. Edik 7 January 2020 18: 47 New
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              Quote: The same Lech
              let's see how events will develop further.

              No one will openly water American bases, just like the United States will not bomb Iran! They will choke each other where possible and as possible.
        2. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 45 New
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          Opportunities for the volume of their production are limited. Do you propose reducing the rate of renewal of air defense in Russia?
    6. hydrox 7 January 2020 11: 29 New
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      Already I thought that now the Jews with the Yankees will make a mess in the Israeli, but in the Jordanian sky - do not let Boh play too much and jump out to the lines of defeat of the Iranians - after all, it’s not far to 3 MV!
      I read further - Utah :: lightly :: I think - you can play here even all year round, even with flights at night - no Russian electronic warfare will reach Utah !!
      1. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 56 New
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        Tell us how do you understand the term 3MB? Who will fight on the side of Iran? Maybe CA, or Emirates? Or Qatar? China? (Definitely not) Russia - the maximum advisers and weapons (which is also fraught with new restrictions).
    7. evgenii67 7 January 2020 11: 46 New
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      Which S-400? Previously, you had to think. Time for training, deployment, it's all long.
      The United States did not give a damn about all the rules for a long time, before they used to hide behind at least “sheep's clothing”. If our people would have done something like that, we would have already shipped a bucket of sanctions. No weapon will be a guarantee of security for Iran. Even if Russia and China sell dozens of S-300 divisions, armor, etc. to them as soon as possible. A hundred planes and helicopters and a thousand tanks. If the amers have a real reason to slam, they slam them. Therefore, it is also time to spit on all the rules and agreements and push the old Poplars at a symbolic price.
      1. rich 7 January 2020 12: 02 New
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        But the "shell" they would not hurt to purchase, or the Chinese "counterparts"
      2. Ross xnumx 7 January 2020 12: 40 New
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        Quote: evgenii67
        Time for training, deployment, it's all long.

        As for deliveries to Iran of the S-400 instead of the S-300 from Russia, the guarantor knows why he did not give the go-ahead after talking in Hebrew ...
        Regarding Iranian air defense:
        Iran created its own air defense system, better than the S-300, but slightly worse than the S-400
        1. Sky strike fighter 7 January 2020 12: 52 New
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          Here in detail about Iranian air defense.
          https://rg.ru/2020/01/06/strazhi-neba-naskolko-silna-sistema-pvo-irana.html
          1. dzvero 7 January 2020 13: 45 New
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            At Topvar, Sergey Linnik (aka bongo) published a series of reviews about Iran:
            https://topwar.ru/116601-pvo-islamskoy-respubliki-iran-chast-5.html - ПВО (ето часть 5, в конце текста ссылки на предъидущие части)
            https://topwar.ru/119911-raketnyy-potencial-islamskoy-respubliki-iran-chast-2.html - ракеты
            https://topwar.ru/30817-iranskie-sredstva-kontrolya-vozdushnoy-obstanovki.html - радары
            Details, informative, actually at a very high level.
      3. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 59 New
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        Following your logic, should the new Pershing appear at SSA? )
        You reason ... too hot. As if assuming that it would be possible at any time to restart the situation. Real life is not a game.
    8. mvg
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      modern methods of war with the US Air Force and Israel

      whose Air Force possess such knowledge? positive? e.g. Syrian air defense
    9. Sky strike fighter 7 January 2020 12: 06 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      It is just necessary to saturate Iran’s air defense with modern S-400s and train their officers in modern methods of war with the US and Israeli air forces.
      This couple is the main enemy of Iran.


      I'm not sure about Israel.
      Israel refused to help the United States in any military operations against Iran.

      Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, amid a serious escalation of the conflict between Iran and the United States, said that Tel Aviv not only did not take any part in the liquidation of the Iranian commander, but would not provide the United States with any assistance in the event of the unleashing of a military conflict.

      http://avia.pro/news/izrail-ne-pustil-v-v-vozdushnoe-prostranstvo-strany-amerikanskie-samolyoty-s-voennymi?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

      Tell me more thanks that Israel did not bring down Amer’s planes, otherwise all sorts of star-striped provocateurs fly here, they want to bring war to the house.
      1. Vladimir_6 7 January 2020 12: 32 New
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        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Israel refused to help the United States in any military operations against Iran.

        Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, amid a serious escalation of the conflict between Iran and the United States, said that Tel Aviv not only did not take any part in the liquidation of the Iranian commander, but would not provide the United States with any assistance in the event of the unleashing of a military conflict.

        Boris Johnson also spoke out against participating in a military operation.
        "The leader of the election race for the posts of the leader of the Conservative Party and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson ruled out the possibility of supporting the US military operation against Iran.
        He said this during a debate with his opponent - Foreign Minister of the United Kingdom Jeremy Hunt.
        “If you asked me if I would support the hostilities against Iran, if I become Prime Minister, the answer is no,” Johnson quotes TASS. "
        1. Sky strike fighter 7 January 2020 12: 40 New
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          The news is old, Johnson is already the Prime Minister. And recently he threatened Tomahawks to Iran from his submarines.
          1. Vladimir_6 7 January 2020 12: 45 New
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            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            The news is old, Johnson is already the Prime Minister. And recently he threatened Tomahawks to Iran from his submarines.

            Guilty, missed the latest news. hi
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        1. Sky strike fighter 7 January 2020 14: 41 New
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          I hope you do not find this nonsense.
          JERUSALEM, January 7, 2020, 13:12 - REGNUM Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country should not be drawn into the conflict between the United States and Iran, Anadolu Ajansi reports on January 7.


          Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2823785.html
          Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.
    10. ssergey1978 7 January 2020 12: 52 New
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      Nonsense then do not smash. With what fright should Russia saturate with 400 Persians?
    11. 3danimal 9 January 2020 13: 41 New
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      Saturate at whose expense? Raise still retirement age?
  3. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 06 New
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    And where will they fly from?
    1. FenH 7 January 2020 11: 09 New
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      Zaurbek (Zaur) Today, 11:06 AM NEW
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      And where will they fly from?

      CA and Jordan
      1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 10 New
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        There Iran will get its BR. Worst of all CA will have.
        1. FenH 7 January 2020 11: 13 New
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          There Iran will get its BR. Worst of all CA will have.

          This is Yes, especially if in parallel with Yemen prokashmarit
          From fresh
          The Pentagon plans to deploy an additional 200 troops and six B-52 bombers to the Middle East due to tensions with Iran. This was reported by the Wall Street Journal, citing representatives of the military department.
          Meanwhile, CNN reported that the bombers will be deployed on the island of Diego Garcia (British overseas territory in the Indian Ocean). It is noted that this the location was chosen because of the location beyond the reach of Iranian missiles.
          1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 19 New
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            Here it depends more on Iran .... there, and a bunch of tankers will fly and DRL and intelligence. In reach zone. If you sit and wait, they will surely crash. Or be afraid of the US bases to crash ....
          2. LiSiCyn 7 January 2020 13: 14 New
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            Quote: FenH
            This is Yes, especially if in parallel with Yemen prokashmarit

            There was infa that yesterday already from the territory of Yemen, 3 missiles were launched in the SA. A spokesman for Khusitov said the attacks were on military facilities.
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          May from Israel. Or even Israel itself, without advertising ...
          1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 32 New
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            If you recall the story of Iraq .... The Jews moved away from these matters. What for? Everything will be done by the USA. Maximum intelligence and intelligence.
            1. silver_roman 7 January 2020 11: 38 New
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              The story with Iraq was being prepared for about a year, a huge number of troops were actively deployed by sea. Then it was clearly understood why this was done. Now, 6 B-52s and 200 people are more of a scare, etc. For a country like Iran, these are trifles. There are not enough forces in the Region to fully start a war with Iran.
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                Quote: silver_roman
                There are not enough forces in the Region to fully start a war with Iran.

                120 thousand people counted.
                Quote: silver_roman
                it is rather a deterrence

                They will be thrashing with aviation and “axes,” without a ground operation.
              2. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 12: 58 New
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                There is no such task, as there are no completely loyal countries neighboring Iran. To start action from there.
              3. SovAr238A 7 January 2020 13: 32 New
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                Quote: silver_roman
                The story with Iraq was being prepared for about a year, a huge number of troops were actively deployed by sea. Then it was clearly understood why this was done. Now, 6 B-52s and 200 people are more of a scare, etc. For a country like Iran, these are trifles. There are not enough forces in the Region to fully start a war with Iran.


                not enough strength?

                Iran has nothing.
                No air force in sufficient numbers.
                No air defense in sufficient quantities.
                Only "PR rockets", "PR planes."
                Iran cannot in fact defend itself even against Israel.
                1. Vadim237 7 January 2020 13: 41 New
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                  How do you know that Iran does not have air defense - maybe they have already completed 100 of these Bavars.
                  1. SovAr238A 7 January 2020 13: 52 New
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                    Quote: Vadim237
                    How do you know that Iran does not have air defense - maybe they have already completed 100 of these Bavars.


                    Because. that they don’t have factories for the production of hundreds of Bavarian divisions.
                    No electronics.
                    There is no chemistry.
                    No metalworking.
                    There are no specialists.
                    no workers.
                    Because ours have been doing in recent years, the same way. as the Iranians did the last 40 years, they were engaged in PR parades, with PR weapons.
                    1. mmaxx 8 January 2020 08: 24 New
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                      In general, unlike us, the Iranians have quite reasonably managed the money lately. Just developed education, science and industry. What we finally achieved, let's see.
  4. Mountain shooter 7 January 2020 11: 10 New
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    Iran is NOT READY to repel a large-scale air attack. Air defense system - it should be a SYSTEM! And not individual areas that can be circumvented, or SUPPRESS, by supersaturating with the means of attack the capabilities of the system. One missile or a single aircraft can be shot down, and not even difficult ... And when are hundreds of missiles attacked?
    1. Terenin 7 January 2020 11: 17 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Iran is NOT READY to repel a large-scale air attack. Air defense system - it should be a SYSTEM! And not individual areas that can be circumvented, or SUPPRESS, by supersaturating with the means of attack the capabilities of the system. One missile or a single aircraft can be shot down, and not even difficult ... And when are hundreds of missiles attacked?

      I correctly understood that we need price tags for an air defense system, we urgently need to change it !? winked
      1. novel66 7 January 2020 11: 26 New
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        it all depends on how it ends
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      Without an air defense unit, the air defense system will not cope ...
  5. Livonetc 7 January 2020 11: 10 New
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    We are waiting.
    With any outcome of a planned strike on Iran, it will not be fatal for Iran.
    And the results will also give a lot of material for further improvements to the air defense systems.
    1. SovAr238A 7 January 2020 13: 35 New
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      Quote: Livonetc
      We are waiting.
      With any outcome of a planned strike on Iran, it will not be fatal for Iran.
      And the results will also give a lot of material for further improvements to the air defense systems.

      it all depends on how the special services are now driving Iran into the pre-Maidan.
      If they can arrange various economic and other upheavals, then after the destruction of the objects of protection and the ayatollah, the probability of a new one. already secular revolution (anti-religious) - quite large.
      There the people more than once and not five - rose against the ayatollahs.
      Especially those. who remembers secular Iran.
  6. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 7 January 2020 11: 16 New
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    The Americans decided to use kamikaze tactics. You can crush them with a number, but then it's good to look at their Air Force.
    1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 22 New
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      They just bomb everything there in ruins ... they have experience and means.
      1. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 7 January 2020 11: 59 New
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        The S-300 knocks everyone into ruin until the rockets run out. In an attack on Iran, the US will get jihad. Do they need it? Or they have lately beguiled the shores.
        1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 12: 51 New
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          Well, he will bring down part of the Kyrgyz Republic .... and part of it will cover. Then the F-35 will finish off all the radars over important cities and facilities. Then the B-52 will arrive with bunker bombs and hang over the country for a week.
  7. bars1 7 January 2020 11: 18 New
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    Quote: The same Lech
    It is just necessary to saturate Iran’s air defense with modern S-400s and train their officers in modern methods of war with the US and Israeli air forces.

    There will be no sense from this; the air defense systems fulfill an important but auxiliary role in relation to fighter aircraft. And with aviation, Iran has a complete seam. So the United States will roll Iran out without any problems.
    In 1982, in the Bekaa River Valley, Israel effectively destroyed Syrian air defense built on Soviet patterns. So, the Soviet / Russian experts are also teachers. But I hope that this is due to the curvature of the Syrians, although ...
    1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 36 New
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      Since then, both the generation of air defense systems and the generation of fighters have changed. MIG29 and Su27, just adjusted for these wars and created.
      1. SovAr238A 7 January 2020 13: 37 New
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        Since then, both the generation of air defense systems and the generation of fighters have changed. MIG29 and Su27, just adjusted for these wars and created.

        And the pilots, and the technicians?
        If our teachings have the same goals - do not turn around. That indicators would not worsen. Therefore, all teachings are known in advance.
        Ostentatiousness.
        1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 13: 41 New
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          I am not aware of our teachings ... I think you too. But in the USSR, the training of pilots was changed after the events in the BV. They introduced training at the Mary training ground with experienced pilots ....
  8. Thrifty 7 January 2020 11: 21 New
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    The loss of at least a pair of f35 in the sky of Iran will close this military adventure with the release of f35! So, the Yankees can PR, but only in the United States, things will not come to a reconciliation! Most likely, they will hit massively with cruise missiles from ships!
    1. maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 31 New
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      Vietnam was lost 895 Phantoms, nobody closed anything.
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        They compared a mass production aircraft to the raw one, which had nowhere to go into battle in essence, the sky-ready f35 !!!
        1. maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 54 New
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          At that time, the Phantom was the newest aircraft, as the F 35 is now
      2. Amateur 7 January 2020 12: 00 New
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        And one F-117 was shot down in Yugoslavia and the entire program was closed.
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          But did F 117 replace other fighters? F 35 has already been launched into the series, orders for 3 thousand boards, international cooperation. There is nothing to replace it with. The same F 35B is generally a unique dude.
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          Quote: Amateur
          And one F-117 was shot down in Yugoslavia and the entire program was closed.

          True, they then "closed" rolled out in 2003 Iraq. For the entire operation of 4 wars and one battle loss. Well, of course, they closed it.
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            Quote: iuocsfyu
            Quote: Amateur
            And one F-117 was shot down in Yugoslavia and the entire program was closed.

            True, they then "closed" rolled out in 2003 Iraq. For the entire operation of 4 wars and one battle loss. Well, of course, they closed it.

            Read a smaller wiki. "NATO Air Force: hiding the truth about the losses" https://pikabu.ru/story/vvs_nato_sokryitie_istinyi_o_poteryakh_4497185 And check this out at your leisure http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/reports/view/33430/
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          2. Amateur 7 January 2020 13: 44 New
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            True, they then "closed" rolled out in 2003 Iraq.

            In 2003, the invasion of Iraq began. ...
            In just 18 days, F-117 operations completed 82 sorties, dropping 98 bombs. This was the last operation in the Knightshock career.

            The massive use of forces and means of air attack in the framework of an air offensive operation was carried out from 21.00:21 on March 23 to the end of the day on March 4. During VNO, two massive missile and air strikes (MRAU) were delivered. In just two days, aviation made about XNUMX thousand sorties.

            US strategic bombers accounted for more than 500 sorties,

            Итого: 82+4000+500=4582 самолетовылета. (82/4582)*100=1,78%
            Iraq rolled out. But the F-117's share is 1,78% at best.
  9. Vlad5307 7 January 2020 11: 25 New
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    Trump decided to show the superiority of the Fu-35 over the S-300 systems and thereby to propiarize them (Fu-35) and shove them to the vassals, who began quietly sabotaging their pushing, refusing or reducing their purchase. And also, on the eve of the elections, to show himself to be a “man with steel eggs,” who, for the sake of greatness, is ready to demolish the whole world, but will start with BV, where their positions are steadily deteriorating. Yes, the increase in oil prices, as a result of this adventure, will allow us not to curtail the production of shale gas in the SGA.
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      Trump decided to show the superiority of the Fu-35 over the S-300 systems and ... himself a "man with steel eggs" who, for the sake of the greatness of the SGA, is ready to demolish the whole world,

      He has already shown his “steel tricks” to Eun, and to Maduro, and to the whole world. Torgash is not a priori able to play in the boxing ring.
      The reason for Trump's bragging with his willingness to tear "the whole world to pieces" is his lack of information. Sorry, but the received "some" military education does not give the right to imagine himself a strategist.
      All US military tactics are based on the “invincibility” of mass missile attacks and aviation actions in the absence of enemy air defense systems ...
      Are the United States ready for the mass cutting of its own citizens in all parts of the world? Or to the fact that 650 kilogram gifts will fly to them by chance (even if they are at the base or territory of the allied satellite)? belay
      Are they ready for the fact that the Muslim world can be united by the figure of a soldier in the American uniform that is constantly looming on the horizon?
      With mutual desire, even mammoths were hunted. Will it be that in the world there will be no people who do not want to kick the annoying aggressor? Are they ready to reap the benefits of their “democratic” seedlings?
      hi
  10. Kerensky 7 January 2020 11: 26 New
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    Thus, a large-scale training involving 52 F-35A fighters in that part of it where attacks on air defense assets of the “conditional enemy” were practiced it is possible to bind with the development of possible attacks on the S-300 and other Iranian systems.

    Such exercises are prepared much in advance and are recorded in the plans for the school year. Go through a bunch of approvals. It’s not necessary to “bind” everything with Iran.
  11. maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 28 New
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    Wow, the heat has gone. Against any war. But Vietnam was a giant leap in the development of Aviation.
    1. Bshkaus 7 January 2020 13: 03 New
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      But Vietnam was a giant leap in the development of Aviation.

      This is a consequence of any war. As soon as real air battles begin, not just divan ones, right away, all the miscalculations and shortcomings that were difficult to identify during the training (theoretical) operation begin to climb out of the cornucopia.
      For the first downed planes, no less, and even more fierce battle between the designers begins in an attempt to improve and surpass the enemy in terms of performance characteristics.
      Then the world comes and everything returns to normal, the tactics of air battles again turn into a theoretical plane until a new hedgehog.
  12. mark1 7 January 2020 11: 29 New
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    It is necessary to transfer a pair of A-50U and 1 IL-78 in a place with crews to Iran, or even better, just patrol under some kind of agreement supposedly in the interests of the Russian Federation (they might be afraid to attack)
    1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 11: 34 New
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      Why and at whose expense?
      1. mark1 7 January 2020 11: 50 New
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        1. Tests and combat experience.
        2. Definitely not for yours.
        1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 12: 22 New
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          1. If Iran does not pay, then definitely, for mine.
          2. To pay a lot ... it is necessary to equip to our level. Otherwise, one harms the image.
          3. Iran has no money.
      2. sabakina 7 January 2020 12: 08 New
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        Why and at whose expense?

        Dear, there are times when it’s useless to consider finances ... Or late ...
        1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 12: 11 New
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          It happens .... it’s clear with Syria, but not with Iran.
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            I am not a geopolitician, .... but JV Stalin did not meet in vain precisely in Tehran ....
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              He met only because half was occupied by the USSR, and the second half by Britain.
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      A pair of A-50U and 1 IL-78 in a place with crews must be leased to Iran

      Substitute a hit, okay, but our crews? This technique is a drop in the ocean, if you think that it can prevent a military conflict and even less in practice in case of hostilities.
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        Substitute a hit, okay, but our crews?

        Under the blow of what? He must not fly over the Persian Gulf.
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      We have something missing. They would still have our air defense. And our planes can simply fly just like that. Somewhere around.
      1. mark1 8 January 2020 08: 45 New
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        Well, everything is so narrow! Of course for myself! And only for yourself!
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          For yourself - holy!
  13. Kleber 7 January 2020 11: 37 New
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    Against the background of the aggravation of the situation in connection with the elimination of the Iranian general, the USA conducted the most ambitious trainings in recent years with the participation of the latest F-35 fighters. It's about maneuvers 388th and reserve 419th fighter regiments.


    There are no air regiments in the structure of the US Air Force. They have an air wing.
  14. evgenii67 7 January 2020 11: 38 New
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    The United States did not give a damn about all the rules for a long time, before they used to hide behind at least “sheep's clothing”. If our people would have done something like that, we would have already shipped a bucket of sanctions. No weapon will be a guarantee of security for Iran. Even if Russia and China sell dozens of S-300 divisions, armor, etc. to them as soon as possible. A hundred planes and helicopters and a thousand tanks. If the amers have a real reason to slam, they slam them. Therefore, it is also time to spit on all the rules and agreements and push the old Poplars at a symbolic price.
  15. silver_roman 7 January 2020 11: 48 New
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    States as today's dominant Sax, and accordingly the predator cannot exist without the blood of others. They consume much more than they produce. They have long needed a sacrifice. Thanks to the destruction of Yugoslavia and the USSR itself, they stretched out long enough. But again, we need a sacred sacrifice. I will not be surprised if this whole thing comes to destabilize Iran and destroy its statehood.
    1. cniza 7 January 2020 12: 20 New
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      I won’t be surprised if this whole thing comes to destabilize Iran and destroy its statehood.


      Everything goes to this, but usually they gather a crowd for cover, will they succeed today?
  16. rocket757 7 January 2020 12: 14 New
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    I suppose that to prepare from all sides.
    Interestingly, the Persians will bring their air defense to mind. The question is not only about the appropriate quality of military equipment, because the human factor plays a very serious role there.
    If you recall the previous incidents, there is not so smooth.
    1. cniza 7 January 2020 12: 17 New
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      Quote: rocket757

      If you recall the previous incidents, there is not so smooth.


      This, as they say, is their weakest link ... hi
      1. sabakina 7 January 2020 12: 29 New
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        Victor, Merry Christmas! From childhood I remember: "Suddenly, out of nowhere, it appeared ..." .... Well then, think for yourself what has appeared, otherwise the local counterintelligence is watching ... wink
        1. cniza 7 January 2020 12: 43 New
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          Greetings! hi You too with the Happy Holiday of the Nativity of Christ!
          It smells of war, a very big war, I would not want to.
          1. rocket757 7 January 2020 13: 09 New
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            Greetings, happy holiday soldier
            Quote: cniza
            That they, as they say, is the weakest link

            And of very past experience, as I recall, the weak link was the staff, with the lack of ... yes, there wasn’t much that they lacked, which did not make them real specialists.
            I don’t think that now something has changed for the better.
  17. cniza 7 January 2020 12: 16 New
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    it can be assumed that this scenario is being worked out in the US Air Force.


    Why guess? , you can firmly say that they work out.
    1. rocket757 7 January 2020 13: 13 New
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      An army does not exist without scripts. Developing the best tactics, training a lot, a lot ... they have such a job.
      Only in real life do these scenarios fly, it happens, to a goddamn grandmother ... well, very often, as many events have already shown.
      1. cniza 7 January 2020 17: 39 New
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        Absolutely, we also work out different scenarios that our neighbors and not only may not like.
        1. rocket757 7 January 2020 18: 28 New
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          It seems like the most dangerous scenario, it is to harbor the illusion that you can slightly, slightly, kick off a vigorous power and it will not answer in any way !!!
          It would be better if no one thought and did not write such scenarios. Dangerous however.
          1. Reptiloid 7 January 2020 18: 50 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            It seems like the most dangerous scenario, it is to harbor the illusion that you can slightly, slightly, kick off a vigorous power and it will not answer in any way !!!
            It would be better if no one thought and did not write such scenarios. Dangerous however.

            And if you recall the times 100 years ago, ------ 1MB. After all, the participants had thoughts that everything would end very quickly, 3-4-6 months. .....
            1. rocket757 7 January 2020 19: 08 New
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              The global conflict, now, may end even faster ....
              How much fake time is there ???
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    "It seems to me that we are on the verge of a grandiose raucer!" (with)
  19. Vadim1000 7 January 2020 14: 19 New
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    So in Iran there are about 120 missiles of the S-300 complex, you can take out the radar with the help of a volley launch (15 pieces are enough) of the Tomahawk
  20. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 14: 28 New
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    The only thing that could potentially save Iran from such threats is an invitation (following the example of Bahrain or Syria) of a foreign air base to the country. Or Chinese or ours. At his own expense to build a base, convenient supply. And invite an airbase or two. If the Iranians come to this with their brains, they will get a safe sky above their heads.
    I see no other options.
  21. Old26 7 January 2020 14: 30 New
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    But the "shell" they would not hurt to purchase, or the Chinese "counterparts"

    "Armor" they have awn. They at one time paid for the supply of their Syria and about half went to them. According to open data, they now have about 10-12 of them

    Quote: ROSS 42
    Iran created its own air defense system, better than the S-300, but slightly worse than the S-400

    Of course better. Only Iranians can shoot down targets at altitudes up to 65 km (as in the material) all over the world by anti-aircraft missile systems with their Bavar-373 supercomplex. Russia has mastered the heights of 400-30 km with its latest serial S-35 complex, and the Persians doubled. laughing

    Quote: FenH
    It is noted that this place was chosen because of the location beyond the reach of Iranian missiles.

    Nonsense CNN notes. A distance of 3500 km is unlikely which of the Iranian missiles will overcome even now. About 15 years ago, the North Koreans delivered to Iran seemingly 18 Musudan missiles with a similar range, but what happened to them was no answer. And to shoot at the airbase with missiles with conventional warheads whose KVO is twice as large as the width of the airbase is very effective. But not effective

    Quote: Livonetc
    We are waiting.
    With any outcome of a planned strike on Iran, it will not be fatal for Iran.
    And the results will also give a lot of material for further improvements to the air defense systems.

    I am afraid that this conflict could become fatal for Iran. Yet Iran is a multinational country and there is certainly friction between certain ethnic groups. As long as there is no war, these frictions can be suppressed without harm to the state. And when will the country be "hammered"? There is no guarantee that all these frictions will not develop into something more serious. And after the conflict, Iran will not have an air defense system. I will have to create it from scratch, and not modify it ...

    Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    The S-300 knocks everyone into ruin until the rockets run out. In an attack on Iran, the US will get jihad. Do they need it? Or they have lately beguiled the shores.

    No need to make a "wunderwaffe" from the S-300. A regimental set of 4 divisions is a drop in the bucket. Moreover, the divisions are “spread out” almost throughout the territory of Iran. One is on guard at a nuclear power plant, one or two at nuclear facilities, one is guarding the capital. And what will the division knock into dust if the number of goals that oversaturated the division fall upon it. And not only "tomahawks", but also missile traps, anti-radar missiles? Incidentally, we should prepare for the “negative” regarding our complexes, which will appear in large numbers in the Western media.

    Quote: Zaurbek
    Well, he will bring down part of the Kyrgyz Republic .... and part of it will cover. Then the F-35 will finish off all the radars over important cities and facilities. Then the B-52 will arrive with bunker bombs and hang over the country for a week.

    The Americans will repeat what they did to Iraq in the 90s, only at a higher technical level. First, air defense will be suppressed by interference and missiles (traps and anti-radar), and then only cruise missiles will be launched. Or at least at the same time. And if 30 years ago they were able to achieve such levels of interference with radar facilities that they could completely beat them, then over 30 years these abilities clearly did not deteriorate, although radars also became more noise-immune. But if you wish, you can "score" ...

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    The loss of at least a pair of f35 in the sky of Iran will close this military adventure with the release of f35! So, the Yankees can PR, but only in the United States, things will not come to a reconciliation! Most likely, they will hit massively with cruise missiles from ships!

    This was said in relation to the F-117 and in relation to other aircraft. EMNIP on TV pictures from the Gulf in the 90s there were also fragments of the “117th”. However, the program was not closed because of this loss, or not because of the Yugoslav one. So with the F-35. The aircraft is initially created on the basis that it can be shot down. Yes, dear, but if he shows himself well, then the line for him will increase ...

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    They compared a mass production aircraft to the raw one, which had nowhere to go into battle in essence, the sky-ready f35 !!!

    It is released in the amount of almost 500 pieces, has been in operation for almost 8 years in a dozen countries, and you still have it ready for use. Yes, operation is not without problems, but it will still be necessary to see how, with what problems, our 9 SU-57 will be operated. Do not think that everyone on a team buys from the United States what they ordered them to buy. Everyone has a head on their shoulders ... Of course, it's nice to think that the enemy has everything bad. But it is fraught ...

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    And one F-117 was shot down in Yugoslavia and the entire program was closed.

    Yeah. They shot down in 1999, and the program was closed in 2008. Just because of this. Do not "pull the owl on the globe." The closure of the program is by no means due to the death of one machine in Yugoslavia. By that time, the Americans had already launched the F-22 Raptor series and leaving in operation far from the best aircraft would not be the best solution

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    It is necessary to transfer a pair of A-50U and 1 IL-78 in a place with crews to Iran, or even better, just patrol under some kind of agreement supposedly in the interests of the Russian Federation (they might be afraid to attack)

    Damn, well, people !!! Well, transfer the money, let them build a pair of A-50U and 1 IL-78 with your money and lease it? What a mania to give all the neighbors. One offers the "Topol", the second S-400, the third is now A-50U and IL-78. And not for their own money, but from the breadth of the soul. Who are the Iranians to us? Allies? Figs you, a maximum of fellow travelers who have the same goals in Syria. And here once against the US (And so it’s almost brothers. And why did these allied brothers allow us to land only once on their territory and allow them to shoot from the Caspian a couple of times. Allies ... They’re waiting for when it will be possible take control of the Muslim republics of the former Union.
    Contracts NO ONE. So here are the Persians IN SPAN
    1. Zaurbek 7 January 2020 14: 51 New
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      And as soon as the sanctions were relaxed, they ran to the USA to spend them .....
  22. Adimius38 7 January 2020 14: 47 New
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    Yes, not some S-300s will not help Iran in the event of a massive attack on Iran’s facilities by the United States, the difference in technology and capabilities of the armies is too huge. In a massive attack, in the first place, the United States will put so much interference that it drowns out completely, and they have enough forces and means for this, they will destroy all the air defense for the day, including the S-300. They’ll hit all major bases, airfields, headquarters, gaining control in the air and with impunity they will beat any armored vehicles and the accumulation of manpower. The old-fashioned war as it was in Iraq is the worst option for Iran. Iran needs a different approach, given the Iraqi experience, because any frontal collision is a 100% defeat of Iranian forces. Wall-to-wall tactics as it was in Iraq in a tank battle is a defeat, I am silent about outdated Iranian aviation, they fly on f-14s of the 70s. Vietnam will not work, there are no impenetrable jungle. But still, the ground forces of Iran are quite numerous and strong. With the land operation, an easy walk for the Americans definitely will not work, and there will be enough coffins for impeachment to the president
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    voyaka uh....And to place the S-400 in Hmeimim, near the sea, you think it was a smart idea?
    Territorial waters - only 23 km.
    You can fly up, “pull” the radar on alert and read the frequencies completely quietly.


    Alexei, do not drive the "naive". Such systems do not spin for days in "combat mode".
    And the S-400 was set up to cover Khmeimim not only in the zone of "neutral waters", but to the entire depth of the Mediterranean Sea. Yes, and "reading frequencies", this is the 20th century. Do not think so bad about the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. hi
    1. voyaka uh 7 January 2020 19: 52 New
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      You yourself come up with theses and you refute them with brilliance. smile
      Did I write something about the "day"?
      Did I write something about "ONLY in the zone of neutral waters"?
      Now it’s too late to discuss whether it WAS to place the S-400 in such ... not the most suitable place. What is done is done.
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    If the Americans really strike through Iran and the S-300 doesn’t fight off .... then it will be a big “shit” to our Rosoboronexport, and to the entire military-industrial complex! negative
    1. Adimius38 7 January 2020 21: 57 New
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      Of course it won’t break off, but what did you think that the S-300 EXCELLENCE PERFECTION)))) the system is certainly good, but it will be stupidly thrown with anti-radar missiles to all this they will start jamming with REBs. Even if there is nothing to stifle her, well, she will not be able to repulse a massive missile strike stupidly drown. There must be reliable, deeply echeloned air defense and the S-300 itself also needs to be covered, all of this must have developed electronic warfare systems to counter the enemy, I doubt that Iran has it all. S-300 IN THIS CASE, well, it’s not my fault not equal with a large margin in favor of the enemy. I doubt that any Patriot will be able to hold out longer than the S-300 under the same conditions.
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  26. Miron 8 January 2020 12: 01 New
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    Nobody loves killers. Let them have F-100500-35 and the Lord kiss glowing on the pope.
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    What would I like here, friends ... It is clear that the United States has more strength than Iran. But we all know about Iran’s forces only fragmentary information from open sources, and even those are mostly unreliable.

    S-300, if memory serves, they have a regimental set. 128-192 shots depending on the configuration (excluding reload). There are some S-200s, like there are Buki, Squares, Arrows, Torahs. There are American (60-70s) and Chinese air defense systems. Some air defense systems of our own production. In principle, if all this is properly used, you can build a decent defense. For lionfish, use medium-sized air defense systems, keep S-300 ammunition, use it as a last resort, and preferably on airplanes.

    Of the modern aircraft, they seem to have a dozen Su-27s (they bought at the beginning of the zero, if the memory serves). There are several dozen MiG-29s (presumably). A few dozen F-14s - the plane is old, but quite combat-ready. The Phantoms order, and copies of these planes made in Iran. It is not enough for an air battle with modern air forces, but it is possible, in principle, to support an air defense system.

    Of course, in the event of a large-scale war, the United States will win. The question is what losses the Iranians will be able to inflict on the Americans, and what losses will be acceptable (or unacceptable) for the Americans.