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Chinese military expert: US has publicly recognized the use of terrorism "to counter terrorism"

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Foreign experts continue to comment on US actions to eliminate Iranian general Kassem Suleimani. Recall that, according to the official interpretation of the White House, General Al-Quds was eliminated in order to "prevent terrorist attacks against American citizens in Iraq and throughout the Middle East."


Chinese military expert Jian Zhangzheng gives his comment on this American interpretation. According to him, the United States, with its blow to the car in which the Iranian general (Suleymani) and the commander of the Shiite militia of Iraq (al-Muhandis) were, "publicly admitted that they use the practice of terrorism" to fight terrorism. "

According to a Chinese military expert, frank statements by the US authorities about Iran, in fact, as a terrorist state, "seriously angered Tehran."

Jian Zhangzheng:

The United States killed General Suleimani, thereby successfully igniting a flame of hatred against themselves. And this flame continues to spread.

The expert notes that Trump’s order to strike actually led to the creation of a large-scale coalition of Shiites of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Palestine.

Jian Zhangzheng:

Even if official Tehran does not take any retaliatory measures against the United States, against the American military, then numerous armed groups in these (indicated above) and other countries of the Middle East will do it for it.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 7 January 2020 10: 16
    -1
    The expert notes that Trump’s order to strike actually led to the creation of a large-scale coalition of Shiites of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Palestine.

    In the general case, only Iran is competent from this list.
    Syria will not be able to drive out the Americans.
    In general, Lebanon does not care.
    Iraq is actually occupied by the Americans.
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    2. cost
      cost 7 January 2020 10: 36
      +9
      Do not forget about the militants of the pro-Iranian Shiite organizations of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Qatar and Palestine. And also about the many religious fanatics and various scumbags ready for money for anything
      Here is a freshman: In Iran Offered to Raise $ 80 Million in Reward for "Trump's Head":
      The organizer of the funeral procession of General Qasem Soleimani in the city of Mashhad called on all Iranians to donate one dollar from each "in order to raise funds for an award of $ 80 million for" Trump's head "
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 7 January 2020 10: 37
        -2
        Quote: Rich
        Do not forget about the militants of the pro-Iranian Shiite organizations of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Qatar and Palestine.

        Excuse me, but how do they threaten the United States with America?
        1. cost
          cost 7 January 2020 10: 41
          +6
          What exactly, Viktor Petrovich, I don’t know. I am not a member of these organizations. But I'm afraid they will soon move
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 7 January 2020 10: 42
            +2
            Quote: Rich
            What exactly, Viktor Petrovich, I don’t know.

            Well, except by biting the tail.
            That is for Israel.
            1. cost
              cost 7 January 2020 11: 23
              +10
              Why, unless for Israel? You will find American citizens in any country - it would be a desire. I wonder why the US government has not yet warned of such a danger.
              1. Cottodraton
                Cottodraton 7 January 2020 11: 46
                +5
                It’s also kind of like a couple of days ago warned not to hang around anywhere. Another thing is that citizens can score some
                1. cost
                  cost 7 January 2020 11: 49
                  +5
                  Nicholas hi
                  Thanks for the amendment. Did not know. I stayed with the matchmakers for two days
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 7 January 2020 10: 38
        +10
        $ 80 million serious money ... for such grandmothers you can find a high-class specialist for shooting the presidents of the United States. what
        1. biron
          biron 7 January 2020 12: 08
          +10
          you just need to start with the Rothschilds of the Rockefellers and other Jews.
        2. novobranets
          novobranets 7 January 2020 12: 33
          +6
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          for such grandmothers you can find a high-class specialist for shooting US presidents

          I remember that one gentleman named Lee Harvey Oswald quipped Sir John Fitzerald Kennedy with bare enthusiasm, and for that kind of money ... By the way, the deceased, at that time, held the same position as Trump now. In vain, Mr. Trump started this, it is in vain for God.
          1. borberd
            borberd 7 January 2020 14: 03
            -13
            It seems to me that even if the Iranians, or their proxies, just think about it and start checking something, then the number of ayatollahs will sharply decrease. Trump did everything right, instead of a thousand words and threats, eliminated, not ordinary terrorist executors, but the main customers. Thus, passing the message to the others ...
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 7 January 2020 17: 27
              +4
              Quote: borberd
              Trump did everything right ... Thus, passing the message to the others ...

              By giving others the message that killing a politician in a foreign country is now considered normal practice.
              That is, if you consider Trump to be a terrorist, you have every right to go and kill him. Trump allowed. You can try.
              At the expense of the "Chinese experts" - the Chinese government may not officially recognize this murder as a terrorist attack, but it does not unofficially prohibit recognizing it. That already says a lot.
              1. borberd
                borberd 7 January 2020 20: 38
                -9
                The general of the IRGC is not a politician, but the head of an organization that uses terrorist methods against civilian objects of other countries. You call Trump what you want, from this he will not become a terrorist. He killed a terrorist who killed a citizen of his country. Quite a worthy job. But the Chinese "experts" need to turn to themselves - what the Chinese government is doing with the Uighurs, even the Arabs do not allow themselves, though ...
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 7 January 2020 22: 51
                  +3
                  Quote: borberd
                  The IRGC General is not a politician, but the head of an organization using terrorist methods against civilian objects of other countries

                  Like Yosi Cohen, a veteran of the terrorist organization Irgun, and now the head of the Mosad
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 8 January 2020 08: 10
                    -1
                    What? Yes you go ... joke laughing . Yosi Cohen was born when Irguna for ~ 30 years did not exist. You need to better learn the story you are referring to.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 8 January 2020 17: 44
                      0
                      Quote: borberd
                      What? Yes you go ... joke laughing . Yosi Cohen was born when Irguna for ~ 30 years did not exist. You need to better learn the story you are referring to.

                      Amendment.
                      The son of Leo Cohen, veteran Irgun
                2. Alex Justice
                  Alex Justice 8 January 2020 15: 07
                  +1
                  He eliminated the terrorist who killed the citizen of his country.

                  Proof of?
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 7 January 2020 14: 07
          +3
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          $ 80 million serious money ...

          This is yes! How many days ago did John Wick offer? 15 lyam? And with what enthusiasm did the entire enlightened public respond to this? And here at stake 80! Oh, something will be ...
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        1. businessv
          businessv 7 January 2020 12: 06
          +9
          Quote: knn54
          The same thought. quite seriously, (about loyal to the USA and not) the Polish journalist at .TVC also expressed

          The Poles have always behaved like I'm sorry tutki, so their statements cannot be taken seriously. Now even in the Square, many people surprise me with statements like "it's good that the Americans are helping us, otherwise it would be a hapless!" And the further, the more such, unfortunately! There is a problem with the heads, the media are doing a good job of cleaning them, especially the Gutroshenkovsk ones. So in the east, there are both purchased media, and politicians (there were unrest in Iran at their suggestion), and a fifth column. Suleimani was a patriot, literate, respected in his country and an expert in his profession, and they are afraid of such mattresses most of all because you cannot buy such mattresses, which means there is only one way out.
      4. asv363
        asv363 7 January 2020 12: 09
        +2
        Dmitry, no matter how it turns out to be a fake from the English newspaper "Mirror". Here's a link:
        https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/iran-offers-80million-bounty-donald-21219180

        I listened to what they say on the video - in my opinion, there is no direct mention of Trump. And the sound could be imposed on the frames. The same Englishmen write that it was said by the emotional "TV commentator" of the funeral procession.

        But this, it seems, is not a fake (there is a link to the source):

        Iranian parliament passes law equating Pentagon to terrorists
        https://ria.ru/20200107/1563159073.html
      5. Fantazer911
        Fantazer911 7 January 2020 12: 30
        0
        after eliminating the talking head, the howl is unlikely to change, and only in the Pentagon they will rub their hands that some stupid person blew his head off the trump and the states now need a war like air and they don’t care who’s at the helm although we all guess that it’s not trump but the military their arms lobby
      6. nikvic46
        nikvic46 7 January 2020 15: 25
        +2
        Dmitry. Therefore, Iraq demanded the withdrawal of American troops. Baghdad is not interested in the war being fought on its territory.
    3. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 7 January 2020 11: 26
      +5
      Iranian parliament voted Pentagon to be recognized as terrorist organization
      According to the text of the law, “all Pentagon members and related institutions and organizations, as well as the leaders involved in the death of [the commander of the special forces Al-Quds of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (elite units of the Iranian Armed Forces)] Kassem Suleimani, are included in the terrorist number. ", Reports TASS.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 7 January 2020 10: 17
    +6
    Even if official Tehran does not take any retaliatory measures against the USA, against the American military, then numerous armed groups in these (indicated above) and other countries of the Middle East will do it for it.

    This is not done by guys from our area ... the war with the United States will be sophisticated ... what more and more interesting is the spiral of the consequences of opening the Pandora's box.
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      1. maden.usmanow
        maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 10: 38
        +1
        Oh what do they call there? Have you seen the official position of China?
        Do not overestimate them.
        1. lucul
          lucul 7 January 2020 10: 40
          +9
          Oh what do they call there?

          At least the rhetoric of the Chinese media in relation to America is much tougher than that of our media.
          1. maden.usmanow
            maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 10: 44
            -9
            The rhetoric of the whale. Media is an empty phrase. They have no influence in the world.
          2. maden.usmanow
            maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 01
            +5
            Quote: lucul
            much tougher than our media.

            Sorry, but you don't understand a little. Any of our media will be destroyed for "harsh" rhetoric against the United States
            The Americans will impose sanctions, block accounts, prohibit other companies from cooperating with this media, demolish all the Internet resources of this media, all pages on social networks, the channel on YouTube, the website of this media will be blocked.
          3. Chaldon48
            Chaldon48 7 January 2020 11: 12
            +7
            Our media really like the American chewing gum, which they constantly chew, only with different intensity. From a distance, this movement of nodules can be mistaken for anger.
          4. Piramidon
            Piramidon 7 January 2020 12: 18
            +1
            Quote: lucul
            Oh what do they call there?

            At least the rhetoric of the Chinese media in relation to America is much tougher than that of our media.

            Based on the statements of one Chinese expert in the "Mord Book", and not in the Chinese media, do you make a conclusion about all the Chinese media?
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 7 January 2020 11: 00
        +2
        Quote: lucul
        The Chinese even call a spade a spade - and we all tolerate boobs ...

        The Chinese military expert Jian Zhangzheng is not all Chinese and, moreover, not the Chinese government. Here, too, "experts" do not "crumple" anything and speak out harshly, especially in VO.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 January 2020 10: 32
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      more and more interesting is the spiral of the consequences of opening the Pandora's box.

      Continuation of "kin" will be in the second series.
  3. Kleber
    Kleber 7 January 2020 10: 18
    +6
    Even if official Tehran does not take any retaliatory measures against the United States, against the American military, then numerous armed groups in these (indicated above) and other countries of the Middle East will do it for it.


    Exactly!
  4. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 January 2020 10: 24
    +3
    German Armed Forces May Be Withdrawn from Iraq in the Light of Escalating Tensions in the Region Following US Assassination of Iranian General Kassem Suleimani in Baghdad.

    “We are exploring all possibilities to quickly remove German soldiers if necessary,” the representative of the German Ministry of Defense said on Monday, January 6. laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 January 2020 10: 33
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      to quickly remove German soldiers if necessary

      But what is "if necessary"?
      1. ML-334
        ML-334 7 January 2020 11: 15
        +4
        The need will arise when migrants start cutting Europe.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 7 January 2020 10: 25
    +5
    When the conversation is about striping, you can no longer talk about other "terrorists". All the others are just a pot-bellied trifle, compared to them.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 January 2020 10: 38
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      When the conversation is about striping, you can no longer talk about other "terrorists". All the others are just a pot-bellied trifle, compared to them.

      This is no longer a "pot-bellied trifle", but against the striped background, small reciters.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 January 2020 11: 46
        0
        It is clear that the general structure of the barmaley is very extensive, large, but without the support from the main "world reciter" it could not become such.
        We will correctly prioritize, otherwise it will get confused in the mess that minke whales knead around the world.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 January 2020 12: 04
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          It is clear that the general structure of the barmaley is very extensive, large, but without the support from the main "world reciter" it could not become such.

          Even a leaflet of the Yellow Press cannot be published without support.
    2. Terentich
      Terentich 7 January 2020 10: 39
      -10
      Quote: rocket757
      All the rest is just a little pot-bellied thing, compared to them.

      It's funny, but in one article you praise this Suleimani for killing the largest number of amers since Vietnam, right away in another you call amer terrorists for killing this innocent man - just a cute one. I understand the duty of the homeland orders the USA to be hated around the clock and for any reason ... but without a pale one can at least try to learn to change shoes? wassat
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 January 2020 11: 55
        +6
        Question - And where at least ONCE did you praise one of those whom you classify as a barmaley? I myself am interested in learning about this!
        You either lie, or ascribe to others your fantasies.
        Learn to answer for your words!
        I consider the Yankees' governments the main barmaley of our time and am ready to answer for my words.
  6. Udav kaa
    Udav kaa 7 January 2020 10: 27
    0
    I look here the Chinese media are copying. And where are the Israeli?
    There is a conversation! hi
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 January 2020 10: 32
      +8
      Where is Israel?
      There is a conversation!

      Visit them on the site of Lech to them ... oh this is such a Russophobian Israeli viper ... there you will find all kinds of perverse Russophobia ... there you will truly see what kind of Israelis are.
      1. Udav kaa
        Udav kaa 7 January 2020 12: 21
        0
        Quote: The same Lech
        Where is Israel?
        There is a conversation!

        Visit them on the site of Lech to them ... oh this is such a Russophobian Israeli viper ... there you will find all kinds of perverse Russophobia ... there you will truly see what kind of Israelis are.

        Yes I know .. hi
        They settled here ..
    2. The popuas
      The popuas 7 January 2020 10: 33
      -1
      Write yourself, comment yourself ... soldier or you do not own Hebrew? lol
  7. prior
    prior 7 January 2020 10: 29
    +5
    "The US has publicly acknowledged the use of terrorism" to combat terrorism "

    So you have to publicly recognize the United States as a terrorist state.
    1. edmed
      edmed 7 January 2020 12: 49
      +3
      Quote: prior
      So you have to publicly recognize the United States as a terrorist state.

      Already. The truth is not everywhere and in part. The Mejlis of Iran voted for the recognition of terrorist organizations: the Pentagon and the US Armed Forces.
  8. Klingon
    Klingon 7 January 2020 10: 31
    +5
    Quote: Victor_B
    The expert notes that Trump’s order to strike actually led to the creation of a large-scale coalition of Shiites of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Palestine.

    In the general case, only Iran is competent from this list.
    Syria will not be able to drive out the Americans.
    In general, Lebanon does not care.
    Iraq is actually occupied by the Americans.

    you do not read carefully or what? It is not the countries themselves that will enter the war against the United States, but groups, all kinds of Hussites, hezbollah, etc. they will set up ambushes, lay high land mines, etc. maybe they will arrange it on May 11 in the states themselves, who will fight openly against a strong enemy?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 January 2020 10: 36
      +6
      who will fight against a strong opponent openly?

      The USA has quietly killed the Iranian general, the official leader of Iran ... this is not power, it is meanness and abomination.
      1. maden.usmanow
        maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 10: 41
        -8
        But the United States calmly admitted this murder. The strength is in this.
        1. edmed
          edmed 7 January 2020 10: 56
          0
          Quote: maden.usmanow
          But the United States calmly admitted this murder. Strength in that

          What is the strength? The godfather slammed a small bandit whom he summoned to the arrow, it would be okay, based on the results of the negotiations, well, they did not agree, it didn’t come to the grave, like "well, I don’t like you, and that’s all."
          1. maden.usmanow
            maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 13
            -7
            No not like this. is he banged and other countries nothing did not do. Neither China, nor Russia, nor Europe. No sanctions, no diplomats are sent. Not even simple condemnation along the line of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 7 January 2020 11: 27
              +3
              Quote: maden.usmanow
              There is not even a simple condemnation by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

              Right? Have you tried to walk? not, No. ?, https: //ria.ru/20200103/1563087277.html
              1. maden.usmanow
                maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 37
                -1
                The usual tonality, such "condemnations" of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are made on conditional Bandera and monuments in Poland
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 7 January 2020 11: 42
                  +3
                  Quote: maden.usmanow
                  The usual tonality, such "condemnations" of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are made on conditional Bandera and monuments in Poland

                  Do you assume that the Russian Foreign Ministry should fall into a caliper and hysteria? What gingerbread cookies? Or immediately announce the persona non grant? There is a clear message on how this can end, not only for Iran and the United States but in the world as a whole. Look after the Foreign Ministry of Kyrgyzstan, critics .....
            2. edmed
              edmed 7 January 2020 11: 55
              +2
              Quote: maden.usmanow
              No not like this. He banged, and the rest of the country did nothing.

              AND? Duck what is the strength? It is clear that everyone is tied with money, interests, connections, and there will be no sudden movements, well, except for frostbitten ones, but they will remember the future, they just sit and watch how the godfather will get out of the situation where he drove himself, at some point he gave the slack really played back, as with a document of withdrawal, the whisper went "Akella missed!"
  9. Kerensky
    Kerensky 7 January 2020 10: 34
    +2
    if official Tehran will not take any retaliatory measures against the US, against the US military, then they will do it for him numerous armed groups

    Here it is not necessary so clumsy! Now some cell with an unpronounceable name smells of an American locksmith and rockets flew ...
    Then Tehran itself must give the order.
  10. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 January 2020 10: 35
    +8
    Let's wait, show Iranian endurance and patience. However, we propose not to doubt that the world will see and recognize the “essential reaction of Iran” in relation to terrorist states represented by the USA and Israel. One way or another, Russia and China will support Iran at the highest international level. Washington’s guilt is obvious, and in Moscow and Beijing they won’t call upon the Iranians for “restraint” in empty words. Especially in Russia - is it a legend or not, but the salvation of the Russian navigator Su-24, shot down by Turkey in Syria, is considered the merit of the late General Suleymani and his special forces "Cods"
  11. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 7 January 2020 10: 43
    +11
    The main terrorists in the world are primarily the United States of America, everything else is Al-Qaeda, Nusra, ISIS, etc. their offspring i.e. regional branches serving the interests of the United States. Sometimes it happens that yes, they get out of control of the mattress and begin to play their game, for which, in turn, their mattresses are destroyed by calibrating them according to the principle of "good" or "bad" terrorists. In the case of Soleimani, the mattresses carried out nothing more than a terrorist attack against an official of a sovereign country with which the United States is not at war, that is, it has committed a war crime. In other words, the prison is crying for Trump and M. Pompeo.
  12. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 January 2020 10: 51
    +13
    To kill a general of another country in a non-combat situation, in the absence of an officially declared war between the United States and Iran, and even in the territory of a third state, is a typical act of state terrorism, a war crime.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 January 2020 11: 47
      +9
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      To kill a general of another country in a non-combat situation, in the absence of an officially declared war between the United States and Iran, and even in the territory of a third state, is a typical act of state terrorism, a war crime.

      Of course, Iran is now assessing the options for a "response" and its consequences. The "ball" is on their side of the field. The United States is ready for Iran's response. Tribal calls for urgent revenge on the striped ones can play a cruel joke. A strike at idle will further increase the credibility of the United States and reduce Iran ...
      This is called the art of war, and, as we see, it’s going on.
      ZY "A skilled warrior is never angry" (Tao Dze Jing)
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 7 January 2020 14: 16
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        The United States is ready to respond to Iran.

        No matter how it turns out that they are not “ready”, but “they think they are ready”.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 7 January 2020 14: 41
          +7
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Quote: Terenin
          The United States is ready to respond to Iran.

          No matter how it turns out that they are not “ready”, but “they think they are ready”.

          It is not excluded. yes
          But, when planning ... it is advisable to assume that the enemy will be prepared.
  13. Aliken
    Aliken 7 January 2020 11: 04
    0
    The United States "stimulated" the militants to the war.
  14. iouris
    iouris 7 January 2020 11: 07
    +3
    The United States has publicly recognized that it does not recognize anyone, and therefore any foreign politician of any rank will bang, at least in order to solve minor domestic problems. Although, the struggle for power in the USA is only partly domestic policy.
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 7 January 2020 11: 17
      -2
      banging any foreign politician of any rank, if only to solve minor domestic political problems.


      Not certainly in that way. The reason was not in the election race.
      According to The Washington Post , Pompeo all year persuaded Trump to eliminate Soleimani, Trump did not want this. In the end, Pompeo first persuaded the Minister of Defense, and then the chief Gene. The headquarters, and they at the end of December, the three went to Trump and still influenced his choice.
  15. eagle owl
    eagle owl 7 January 2020 11: 12
    +8
    There is a joke abruptly. Iraq asks the US to get the fuck out of the country. Trump’s answer about the fact that they built an airfield there, they say give the money back ... Cynical, destroy the country and asks for loot at the airfield? ... Iraq is a UN member. And now slowly ... He has the right to ask for UN MILITARY assistance for the ELIMINATION of the occupying forces on the territory of a sovereign state. The trick is that even if no one moves the troops ... The whole calthia of the brethren is a legitimate target for anyone!
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 7 January 2020 12: 45
      +1
      So I think, if in Syria the Americans are illegitimate, then what’s stopping their base and soldiers from putting fur up in the air for everyone? Although they are strong there, they are extra-legal deuro and de facto
      1. eagle owl
        eagle owl 7 January 2020 13: 40
        0
        And there is a funny trick ... The mandate for armed intervention - no one gave them. BUT. They appealed to the Security Council - and ... NO OBJECTIONS (s)
        That's what they operate with, and for a long time

        It’s won ... Civilian employees are running. Well, for sure - they defeated everyone there!
        1. eagle owl
          eagle owl 7 January 2020 13: 45
          0

          Chet did not immediately insert)
  16. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 January 2020 11: 18
    +3
    "led to the creation of a large-scale coalition of Shiites of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Palestine." ///
    ---
    This coalition - the so-called "Shiite belt from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea" - has existed for about 10 years.
    It is consistently created by Iran.
    Rather, not against Israel, but against its worst religious rival, Saudi Arabia.
    The late Suleymani was the practical leader and coordinator of this coalition.
    1. eagle owl
      eagle owl 7 January 2020 12: 06
      +1
      Excuse me, what is the name of the NOT belt, but the garbage that is fighting hard with Lebanon? Arab - but calolitia, freaks? Well, and what you said, IMHO - the remnants of the empire, or rather - two, first the Umayyads, and then the Ottomans ... Well, there is pan-pihano there now ... But what is - that is, the remnants - remained. And Julia to drag someone else's belt? What will it lead to? Yes corny - out, the Greeks next to you, dress the Jews in a parade from the Greeks. No, that's why I propose - I'm in Moscow. will not reach me laughing
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 January 2020 12: 44
        0
        "Well, what you said, IMHO - the remnants of the empire" ///
        ---
        No. The Shiite belt is a completely new idea, "fresh".
        Lebanon was almost the entire Christian country. Muslims - a minority - were Sunnis. Then, with the skillful assistance of Iran, the Sunni poor began to move en masse into the Shiite branch of Islam.
        And multiply rapidly. Now Lebanon can be considered a Muslim country.
        They are also going to gradually drag there - from the Sunnis to the Shiites - and the Muslims of Gaza.
        Shiites are no worse than Sunnis, the point is in politics. The war between Iran and Saudi Arabia (plus Egypt).
        1. eagle owl
          eagle owl 7 January 2020 13: 28
          0
          Yes, that's what it seems to me, it's not "new", but ... That's about what I said - you are a Jew, because you know better than me that I said the truth !!! And this is their fucking desire to revive the empire, and both Iran and the Turks see themselves at the head! And ishsho no one for where Mecca speaks. who is the head, you. Israel, that's why they are alive - the Arabs are fighting each other for the birthright worse than ... Yes, worse than everyone else.
          PiSi, minusator - Greek parade:

          Well put this on a Jew ... And byrenko-in the trench !!!
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 7 January 2020 13: 39
            -1
            "And this is their fucking desire to revive the empire, and both Iran and the Turks see themselves at the head!" ////
            ----
            In different periods after World War II, different countries saw themselves as "at the head of the Middle East."
            1) in the 60s of Egypt, President Nasser
            2) in the 70s, Syria, President Hafez al-Assad
            3) in the 80s, Iraq by President Saddam Hussein
            4) in the 90s, Saudi Arabia
            5) in the 00 years of Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini
            6) in 10 years, Turkey, President Erdogan.
            Israel has consistently interfered with all of them and is preventing them from becoming "commanders."
            But he himself will never be able to take this place for national and religious reasons.
            Nevertheless, the Arabs have become accustomed to Israel and reconciled with its existence. But Iran is not there, unfortunately.
            1. eagle owl
              eagle owl 7 January 2020 16: 05
              +1
              Nevertheless, the Arabs have become accustomed to Israel and reconciled with its existence.

              Does your database always last? Have the flies been hatched?
              But Iran is not there, unfortunately.

              With the dominant role of Iran? With Iran ... Yes, reconciled. so, bite, but you so ALWAYS had
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 7 January 2020 15: 03
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      This coalition - the so-called "Shiite belt from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea" - has existed for about 10 years.
      It is consistently created by Iran.
      Rather, not against Israel, but against its worst religious rival, Saudi Arabia.
      The late Suleymani was the practical leader and coordinator of this coalition.
      Not ordinary abilities was a man. Even the Sunnis came to his funeral as Hezbollah and Hamas walked alongside. Suleimani was able to inspire them with the fact that the showdown between Sunnis and Shiites is the internal affairs of the Islamic world, in front of which there is a common external threat in the person of Israel and the United States hostile to the entire Islamic world without exception. I do not know how this is projected onto Saudi Arabia, but it was on an anti-Israeli-American topic that he could, if not remove, then significantly reduce the Sunni-Shiite differences. And yes, S. Arabia is not in honor of Iran. I used to be wondering why, for acts of mockery of the Qur'an from the side of mattress soldiers and English priests, Shiites and Sunnis rose to protest all together, and against the mattresses, they acted separately, and even made friends with them opposing each other. Now that they have decided among themselves and with their real enemies, Suleimani was killed.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 January 2020 15: 14
        +1
        "since Hezbollah and Hamas walked side by side" ///
        ----
        As in Gaza, the Arabs are increasingly moving closer to the Shiites. Egypt offended them - does not like. Saudi also.
        Only Qatar remains, which feeds them. But in a prospect, Gaza will go over to Iran, probably.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 7 January 2020 15: 23
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "since Hezbollah and Hamas walked side by side" ///
          ----
          As in Gaza, the Arabs are increasingly moving closer to the Shiites. Egypt offended them - does not like. Saudi also.
          Only Qatar remains, which feeds them. But in a prospect, Gaza will go over to Iran, probably.

          As Kozma Prutkov said - "You cannot embrace the immensity", but as practice shows, he was wrong. The trick is that it is the actions of the United States that lead to the fact that those who previously could not unite or did not strive for this from the word at all are uniting. This applies not only to Sunnis and Shiites. The fact that China and Russia have embraced each other in a close embrace that today frightens the United States was made possible by the policy of the United States. I look and Europe begins to doubt. So Merkel goes to VVP to talk face to face in the Kremlin apartments because she is afraid that there are no places left for conversation in Berlin where the mattress ears do not stick out. And Egypt now has more interests in Libya. hi
  17. NordUral
    NordUral 7 January 2020 11: 19
    +2
    Bandits against "terrorists" - an interesting alignment.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 January 2020 14: 49
      +7
      Quote: NordUral
      Bandits against "terrorists" - an interesting alignment.

      And, the main thing is what happened. Against something (someone) the United States is already forced to act personally, and not as before - pitting one against the other, and only "washed its hands."
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 7 January 2020 20: 24
        +2
        And that inspires hope for the best.
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  19. Thrifty
    Thrifty 7 January 2020 11: 23
    +1
    The Chinese simply decided to insert their five cents, but so far only in words!
    1. Lone gunman
      Lone gunman 7 January 2020 13: 01
      -1
      ) ... Russians can throw their hats on, and the Chinese can see everything with whatever they can ... including hieroglyphs, I have not said that there is no Chinese who can read and understand the interpretation of what they write. Verbiage ...
  20. faterdom
    faterdom 7 January 2020 12: 34
    0
    Now Iran will definitely have nuclear weapons and a little later - Thermo- (it always happens). And then BV will become tense, but calm.
    Americans always get their way - they wanted Kim to have it - hurray! It is! The Japanese and Yukoreans shouted "Hurray!" And threw their caps into the air.
    Then it's the turn to throw bonnets (turban, bales?) Whose?
  21. evgen1221
    evgen1221 7 January 2020 12: 42
    0
    Sooner or later, but the mattresses jump to their complete isolation. It has been painfully clumsy and barbaric in business and politics lately. In BV, they simply cut out one single striped sticker on sneakers, no matter who, and in the world, too, by the way, though not so massively, but they will and wait in the speed of news on this topic. There are a lot of mattress tourists in any country, they will simply be afraid to travel around the world after a couple of demonstrations. And a fleet with prodigies here will help weak avik to not put a penny to every tourist.
  22. fif21
    fif21 7 January 2020 12: 57
    0
    Iran recognized the US Armed Forces and the United States themselves as a terrorist organization. My opinion is that other countries need to support Iran in this, as well as provide support to Iran, if converted, on the military technical plane. Who can put a mattress dog on a chain? hi
  23. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 7 January 2020 13: 23
    -1
    Israel is trying to pit the two currents of Islam - Sunnis with Shiites, and they have been doing this for a long time and not without success. Everything is as old as the world ... Now the planet is ruled by "western" Israel ... but it would be better if "not educated or drunk" Russia rules ?! ... well, not what, everything has its time, Russians "sober up" and educate ... happy holiday of the Jewish God!
  24. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 7 January 2020 14: 12
    0
    They did not make any discoveries, although they say that the Americans love and know how to play long, but their "long project" in Australia and the Middle East only leads to excavation. Sometimes it seems that the analytical services of the United States are degrading, or they are trying to please someone in the government, and there is now such a quarrel. Although they have it for a long time, since the "Pancake Clinton". As soon as there is "friction" in the government, so immediately there is a war in Asia.
  25. nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 January 2020 15: 30
    0
    Mutual requirements can still be sorted out somehow. In this case, only threats.
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 January 2020 17: 42
    0
    The United States "by mistake" announced the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Hackers leaked, general's shoulder straps got and hacked the Pentagon commander with floppy disks. We are waiting for the kin from gollyvoodoo. laughing
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 January 2020 17: 50
    0
    As it is not difficult to notice, the myth that the conflict between the Sunnis and Shiites is unavoidable is somewhat untrue, especially when there is a common enemy.
    2. Iran officially recognized the Pentagon as a terrorist organization. The US Army is now also officially regarded by Iran as a terrorist organization. This decision was unanimously adopted by the Iranian parliaments. Now Iran can carry out any operations against the USA as counter-terrorism.
    3. Russia and China yesterday blocked an anti-Iranian resolution in the UN Security Council, which caused US serious displeasure. Iran’s Foreign Minister Zarif was simply not allowed into the UN without giving him a visa to the United States. What once again reminded that the UN structures must be transferred to another country.
  28. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 January 2020 17: 55
    -1
    Wonderful details from the meeting of the Iraqi parliament, where a decision was made on the withdrawal of American troops from this country. The outgoing Prime Minister told the deputies (despite the speaker’s attempts to mute his microphone) that the protests in Iraq were inspired by the United States in response to Iraq’s agreements with China, and Trump threatened to kill the Iraqi Prime Minister and Defense Minister, as well as American snipers they will begin to kill both protesters and security forces in order to cause a massacre that will weaken the government. The first revelation is why Halbusi (the speaker of the Iraqi parliament) was present at the parliamentary session, while almost none of the Sunni deputies participated. This was because the Americans found out that Abdul-Mahdi planned to disclose secret information at the session, and sent Halbusi to prevent this.
    Halbusi turned off Abdul-Mahdi at the beginning of his speech, then asked to stop the live broadcast of the speech. After that, Halbusi and other members sat down next to Abdul-Mahdi and spoke openly, without recording. An important part of the story is that the broadcast was turned off, but Abdul-Mahdi continued to speak.

    2. This is what was discussed in this session (live): Abdul-Mahdi spoke angrily about how the Americans destroyed the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and energy projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues - from which Abdul -Mahdi refused. Abdul-Mahdi stated: “This is why I visited China and signed an important construction agreement with him. After my return, Trump called me and demanded to terminate the agreement, and when I refused, he threatened me with huge demonstrations against me that would put an end to my ship. that will go to the bottom. "Abdul Mahdi: Indeed, huge demonstrations have materialized against me, and Trump calls again and says that if I do not comply with his demands, he will place Marine Corps snipers on the tallest buildings that will chase and kill protesters and security forces. in an attempt to put pressure on me. Again, I refused and resigned, and to this day the Americans insist on canceling our deal with China. After that, when our Secretary of Defense publicly announced that a third party was targeting both the demonstrators and the security forces (he was threatened by Trump as well as I was), I received a new call from Trump, who threatened to kill me and the Secretary of Defense if we we will continue to talk about the "third party" of the protests.

    4.Thus, to summarize - the United States - refused to complete the reconstruction of the country that they destroyed - they demanded 50% of Iraq’s oil revenues in exchange for completing this work (in the style of a gangster) - and began to go crazy when Iraq instead chose The Chinese version - they demanded to terminate the agreement, and after the refusal, they roused mass protests, and when their demands were again rejected, they sent marines snipers to kill the protesters and security forces, after which they threatened to kill the prime minister and defense minister if they talk about it .5. The US Embassy in New Delhi in India is closed due to massive protests. Protesters burn flags of the USA and Israel.
    6. The Prime Minister of Malaysia called on Muslim countries to unite to protect themselves from foreign attacks and killings.
    7. The Iranian Parliament approved the allocation of $ 200 million for the actions of the Quds Force for the next 2 months.

    Ahmed Al Hazraji https://twitter.com/Ahmedzehzeeh222
  29. kit88
    kit88 7 January 2020 19: 07
    +5
    By its actions, the United States will definitely achieve a war on its territory. Of course not full-blown, but such that September 11 will seem like flowers.
  30. Dynamic systems
    Dynamic systems 7 January 2020 22: 03
    +1
    9/11 YOURSELF AND MADE. BABLO IMPORTANT.