"Syrian Express" loses one ship: BDK "Orsk" gets up for repair

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"Syrian Express" loses one ship: BDK "Orsk" gets up for repair

Large landing ship (BDK) "Orsk" project 1171, which is part of the Black Sea fleetwill be put for repair due to a breakdown of the propulsion system. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the power structures of the Crimea.

According to the information received news agency, during the next trip to Syria, one of the two diesel engines at the ship broke down. The BDK was towed by sea tug MB-304 to the base of the Black Sea Fleet. Where the repair will take place is still unknown. Also, the duration of the repair is not known, since everything will depend on the availability of the necessary spare parts and the timing of their manufacture.



One of the two diesels failed at the BDK during the next campaign in Syria

- said the source.

Note that the BDC "Orsk" left the planned repair at the end of October 2017. Repair was carried out at the 13 shipyard of the Black Sea Fleet of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in Sevastopol. The ship participated in the "Syrian express", delivering goods to Syria. It was at the BFK Black Sea Fleet that the heaviest burden fell on providing the Russian military group in Syria.

The large landing ship "Orsk" is part of the crew of landing ships of the Crimean naval base, has a displacement of 4,6 thousand tons, cruising range of 10 thousand miles. The ship is capable of transporting up to 1,5 thousand tons of equipment and cargo.

The ship was laid down at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad on August 30, 1967. It entered service on December 31, 1968 and became part of the Black Sea Fleet.

Dimensions: length - 113,1 m, width - 15,6 m, draft - 4,5 m.
Maximum travel speed: 16,5 nodes
Navigation range: 10000 miles with 15 nodes.
Powerplant: 2 diesel, 2 propeller, 9000 hp
Capacity: up to 1500 tons of vehicles and cargo.
Armament: 1X2 57-mm artillery mount ZIF-31B.
Crew: 55 people.
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  1. +14
    6 January 2020 13: 51
    "Syrian Express" loses one ship: BDK "Orsk" gets up for repair
    The steep slides drove the sivka ... I hope that more than once he will go to sea, under the flag of St. Andrew
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. +8
        6 January 2020 14: 54
        Quote: Udav Kaa
        let the bastards not rejoice !!!

        Hard worker! Our work experience is the same! hi
        1. -1
          6 January 2020 15: 06
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Quote: Udav Kaa
          let the bastards not rejoice !!!

          Hard worker! Our work experience is the same! hi

          Ours will come .. Let’s not rejoice !!!!
          1. +1
            6 January 2020 20: 14
            What do you mean "come"? Did our people leave? Will they patch up the old man and he will arrange something else for someone else?
          2. +4
            6 January 2020 21: 25
            There are not enough landing submarines feel laughing I apologize for the "lag" The pieces of iron flew. The computer needs repair. It happens the same recourse
            Who else looking at things like the article. Wants to deploy a base in Cuba? laughing
        2. +1
          6 January 2020 15: 50
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          Hard worker! Our work experience is the same!

          We are retired, and he will still serve.
          1. +2
            6 January 2020 15: 52
            Quote: tihonmarine
            We are retired

            I'm still in the labor post ...
            1. +1
              6 January 2020 16: 00
              Quote from Uncle Lee
              I'm still in the labor post ...

              And here I am writing to you also from a labor post.
        3. +1
          7 January 2020 08: 53
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Quote: Udav Kaa
          let the bastards not rejoice !!!

          Hard worker! Our work experience is the same! hi

          I have more !!! I was a marshal and more than once hi
          1. -1
            7 January 2020 09: 05
            Quote: Udav Kaa
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Quote: Udav Kaa
            let the bastards not rejoice !!!

            Hard worker! Our work experience is the same! hi

            I have more !!! I was a marshal and more than once hi

            Earthworm laughing
            Vitaly, is uniform in happiness?
            Especially typical.
            1. -1
              7 January 2020 09: 17
              Quote: atalef
              Earthworm

              Rude atalef .. I kinda never offended you?
              Quote: atalef
              Vitaly, is uniform in happiness?
              Especially typical.

              Well, shoulder straps for me have not been important for a long time and you know it (since 2015)))))
        4. +1
          8 January 2020 11: 17
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          Hard worker! Our work experience is the same!

          Maybe you already know, but I consider it a duty to inform:
          "The technical readiness of the large landing ship" Orsk "could be restored in a day"
          interfax-russia.ru
          Since January 06, he is already at sea ...
          1. +1
            8 January 2020 11: 29
            Ships tend to fail. The main thing is that ship repair was carried out quickly and efficiently! hi
      2. -13
        6 January 2020 16: 51
        Colossus with feet of clay !!!. Everything is back to square one.
    2. +3
      6 January 2020 15: 31
      I hope that more than once he will go to sea, under the flag of St. Andrew

      Since 1968, it has been plowing the sea. How long can I leave for veterans? It is hoped that they will begin to build a replacement.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Большие_десантные_корабли_проекта_1171#Состав_серии
    3. +11
      6 January 2020 16: 16
      Once again, the thesis is confirmed that the delivery of goods should be carried out by auxiliary vessels of the Navy or, in general, mobilized for such purposes, and not by a military base.
      1. -22
        6 January 2020 16: 53
        and proudly sounds pimped out of the Active fleet.
        1. +13
          6 January 2020 17: 09
          Quote: Seeker
          and proudly sounds pimped out of the Active fleet.

          Ruined houses in Donuzlav bay and Ukraine does not want to pick them up like scrap metal ...
        2. -2
          6 January 2020 18: 28
          Because pimped, because he did not do what he should.
    4. +6
      6 January 2020 17: 01
      Quote: svp67
      The steep slides drove off the sivka ...

      Well, what else to expect if it is stupid to use the BDK as dry cargo ships. Are we also in short supply of barges? You can, with a fool, and on "Kuza" to carry cargo to Syria.
    5. +1
      6 January 2020 17: 51
      Generally, for the good for: "Syrian Express", it is desirable to use special transports, not "paratroopers"
    6. +3
      6 January 2020 23: 08
      And what's wrong with that ?, in all the armies of the world from a brigade of 6 ships, at least 1 or 2 for repair or maintenance.
  2. +7
    6 January 2020 14: 00
    A year ... from the moment it was laid down, before being put into operation, well, a little more !!! and now I wonder how much it will take ..... offensively to God
    1. +32
      6 January 2020 14: 22
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      A year ... from the moment it was laid down, before being put into operation, well, a little more !!!

      It was built a little over a year because then there were no effective managers. This ship, whose age exceeded half a century, had long had to be decommissioned and replaced with modern landing ships. But instead they build yachts for themselves, with a displacement and at the cost of an atomic destroyer.
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      and now I wonder how much is needed ...

      Let's see how much is needed for repairby no means capital, let alone construction. Something tells me more. And this is in the 21st century - in the century of automation, informatization and robotization. See how ships are assembled in South Korea and compare this to the Russian one. These are just different centuries.
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      . sorry to god

      Why? Who should be offended? Are you an irreconcilable supporter of Putin and his vedra? Is not it so? Aah, I understand. Little time was given to them to raise the country. Only 20 years old. It takes as much. Although, I think, this will not be enough. Maybe they didn’t do that and are doing it all this time? Here the number of dollar billionaires under Putin grew from 1 to 100. Stalin after the Second World War and 7 years was enough to lift the country out of ruins. Naturally, there were no billionaires, and even millionaires. So the problem is not in the country, but in power and in the system that rules in it.
      1. +2
        6 January 2020 15: 11
        Horses, people, cores mixed up in a bunch, this is your answer, Putin is far from the first to blame for the deplorable situation in the shipbuilding industry, write more about pensions, apparently the manual was poorly learned
        1. +18
          6 January 2020 15: 25
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Putin is far from the first to blame for the deplorable situation in the shipbuilding industry.

          The fact that shipbuilding fell into a difficult situation, yes, it is not his fault. But he is the main culprit in the fact that in the country that he runs for 20 years, shipbuilding still represents such a miserable sight. He is the main culprit for the fact that his ministers are no good and appointed to them on the basis of personal fidelity, and not professionalism. Putin is the main culprit for the failure of the endless pension reform. He is the main culprit for the withdrawal of trillions of dollars abroad. And the culprit is much more.
        2. +4
          6 January 2020 17: 03
          Listen. Given the fullness of absolute power that the president of Russia possesses, he bears the responsibility for EVERYTHING.
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Normal, reliable hard worker. 13 knots runs, and will still run.

          and the three-line still shoots. and the T-34 still rides. and that’s interesting. and the gramophone still smears the music. But the main thing is HOW !!!!!!
        3. 0
          6 January 2020 17: 11
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          who is to blame for the deplorable situation of the shipbuilding industry,

          Here, not only the industry is to blame, but also who and how operates the ship, ship, On AVIA Pro. article about a new feat
          "Marshal Ustinov," received unknown damage while crossing the Bosphorus. Turkish media published a video on which you can see how the Russian missile cruiser is towed by three Turkish ships at once.
          Something we have recently with ships through a causal place, then drowned airplanes, drowned the dock, burned Kuzya, Orsk, now Ustinov, with a roll to his left side. Great. What's next?
      2. +1
        6 January 2020 15: 22
        Quote: kjhg
        Why? Who should be offended? Are you an irreconcilable supporter of Putin and his vedra? Is not it so? Aah, I understand. Little time was given to them to raise the country. Only 20 years old. It takes as much. Although, I think, this will not be enough. Maybe they didn’t do that and are doing it all this time? Here the number of dollar billionaires under Putin grew from 1 to 100. Stalin after the Second World War and 7 years was enough to lift the country out of ruins.

        It may and has something to agree with. But! Usually, ardent critics of Putin and 20 years of stagnation, which is written in your message, simultaneously, right around the corner, glorify the "holy nineties" and personally Benya Bukhar for some achievements in the field of economic reforms and democratization of society. In the meantime, the most monstrous blow to the Russian Navy, to personnel and combat strengths, to the technical base and the military industry, was inflicted by the "holy nineties." This is especially true of the Black Sea Fleet and the 5th Mediterranean Squadron. And the most touching thing is that the same subjects remember the achievements of the Soviet Stalinist period. Handsome men, aren't they? And this public schizophrenia is either not noticed by subjects, or ignored by a specialist.
        1. 0
          6 January 2020 15: 56
          Quote: Abbot
          And this public schizophrenia

          It is with you.
          Quote: Abbot
          Usually ardent critics of Putin and 20 years of stagnation, which is written in your message, simultaneously, right around the corner, glorify the "holy nineties" and personally Benya Bukhar for some achievements in the field of economic reforms and democratization of society.

          It is your idol Putin who built a monument to Yeltsin in Yekaterinburg - crazy center for crazy money. It is you who are hypocrites at the expense of the nineties. Putin-the successor of Yeltsin, the successor of his affairs in the robbery of the country. It was his friends who all became dollar billionaires. This Putin admitted that he is a liberal. Putin and Yeltsin-one field of berries.
          Quote: Abbot
          Meanwhile, the most monstrous blow to the Russian Navy, to the personnel and combat strength, to the technical base and the military industry, was inflicted by the "holy nineties"

          Lying! In the nineties, the ship's crew still rested on Soviet fat. Yes, there was no diesel fuel to go to sea. But it was precisely in the well-fed two thousandth years of Putin's reign that atomic submarines, surface ships and anti-ship aircraft, which were awaiting repair, were finished off and written off. It was Putin who raised the window dress to the absolute.
          Quote: Abbot
          And the most touching thing is that the same sabzh recall the achievements of the Soviet Stalin period.

          Yes, remember. Remember, NEVER fans of Stalin's great achievements will speak well of Yeltsin and Putin.
          1. +2
            6 January 2020 16: 42
            Quote: kjhg
            It is your idol Putin who built a monument to Yeltsin in Yekaterinburg - crazy center for crazy money. It is you who are hypocrites at the expense of the nineties. Putin-the successor of Yeltsin, the successor of his affairs in the robbery of the country. It was his friends who all became dollar billionaires. This Putin admitted that he is a liberal. Putin and Yeltsin-one field of berries.


            Wow, how it hooked you. Actually, I personally did not reproach you for anything, but outlined the appearance of a phenomenon. I don’t understand why you got so nervous ...

            Quote: kjhg
            Lies!


            Rejected! You ignored the mention of the 5th Mediterranean squadron. Why? And if you wish, compare the data not on the decommissioning and disposal of warships, but on modernization, construction of new ones, adoption of new ship weapon systems, and so on. For the relevant periods. How not to treat GDP, and GPV-2020 was adopted under it, and not under Yeltsin. Fact! The development of the Russian Armed Forces in general is certainly not the merit of the Yeltsinists. Benya only managed to withdraw into the pure field of the GBV and deprive Russia of influence in Eastern Europe, with all the consequences. And the current situation is again the result of Putin's rule. It is obvious.

            In general, I do not understand why you are so fiercely defending these "holy nineties"? Why suddenly? Probably because of the following:

            Quote: kjhg
            Yes, remember. Remember, NEVER fans of Stalin's great achievements will speak well of Yeltsin and Putin.


            And you are a fan of Stalin's achievements, it turns out. Well, well ... Something you get confused in the testimony, dear. Okay, I’ll remember and will keep in mind. Good luck
            1. +3
              6 January 2020 17: 42
              Quote: Abbot
              Rejected! You ignored the mention of the 5th Mediterranean squadron. Why?

              You just inattentively read my comment. I wrote there that there was almost no diesel fuel. It was not only about major exercises, but sometimes it wasn’t even enough to go to the Black Sea to work out course tasks and carry out combat exercises with practical firing. What permanent Mediterranean squadron are you talking about in this situation? Moreover, in fact, the division of the Black Sea Fleet occurred only in 1997! There were only single trips of ships and submarines to the Mediterranean Sea.
              Quote: Abbot
              And if you wish, compare the data not on the decommissioning and disposal of warships, but on modernization, construction of new ones, adoption of new ship weapon systems, and so on. For the relevant periods.

              Let's compare the ships and submarines completed and put into service from 1991 to 2000 and from 2001 to 2010.
              So from 1991 to 2000, it was completed and entered into the Navy:
              - 5 MAPL 971 project Pike-B
              - 5 strike submarines of project 949A Antey
              - 1993: TFR project 11540 Undaunted
              - 1998: the flagship of the Northern Fleet TARK project 1144 Orlan Peter the Great
              - 1998: BOD of project 1155.1 Admiral Chabanenko
              Total: 10 nuclear submarines, 1 TFR, 1 TARK, 1 BOD. Total: 12 submarines and ships of rank 1, .1 ship of rank 2
              This is only for large ships of rank 1-2 and nuclear submarines.

              Let's see what was built from 2000 to 2010:
              - 2001: 1 nuclear submarine pr.971 Cheetah
              - 2009: 1 TFR of project 11540 Yaroslav the Wise
              - 2007: 1 The Guardian Corvette
              - 2003: 1 Project 11661 Missile Ship Tatarstan
              Total: 1 nuclear submarine, 1 ship of the 2nd rank, 2 ships of the 3rd rank (although they can be ignored, because I did not bring the corresponding ships of the 3rd rank above).

              You can say that in the 90s ships and submarines built in the USSR were being completed. Yes it is. But from 2001 to 2010, ships and submarines, which were laid down under the USSR and in the 90s, were also being completed. Here we have a real story.
              I cannot say a single good word about Yeltsin. But I will not allow frankly lying about the fleet.
              1. +1
                6 January 2020 22: 48
                Quote: kjhg
                You just inattentively read my comment. I wrote there that there was almost no diesel fuel.
                The liquidation of the 5th Mediterranean squadron in 1992 and the restoration in 2013 due to a shortage / excess of diesel fuel - this is sur! Thank you, I heard you. By the way, do not tell me where she, this diesel fuel, sharply disappeared in 1992? And that means that it makes no sense to compare exercises and combat training. Well, without diesel fuel.
                Quote: kjhg
                - 1993: TFR project 11540 Undaunted

                "Fearless" was commissioned on December 28, 1990, and into the Baltic Fleet - on March 14, 1991. Past!
                Quote: kjhg
                Total: 10 nuclear submarines, 1 TFR, 1 TARK, 1 BOD. In total: 12 nuclear submarines and ships of the 1st rank, .1 ship of the 2nd rank. This is only for large ships of rank 1-2 and nuclear submarines.

                For the period 1991-1999 I seem to have happened

                1 TARK "Peter the Great"
                1 large landing craft "Korolev"
                2 BOD "Admiral Ponteleev" and "Admiral Chebanenko"
                2 destroyers "Persistent" and "Admiral Ushakov"
                2 diesel submarines "Krasnokamensk" and "Mogocha"
                11 submarines (if necessary, I will name)
                Only 6 surface warships and 13 submarines.
                Quote: kjhg
                Let's see what was built from 2000 to 2010:
                - 2001: 1 nuclear submarine pr.971 Cheetah
                - 2009: 1 TFR of project 11540 Yaroslav the Wise
                - 2007: 1 The Guardian Corvette
                - 2003: 1 Project 11661 Missile Ship Tatarstan

                Yeah, come on. Only I did not understand why until 2010. No, let’s, until 2019.

                1 BDK pr. 11711
                1 TFR Project 11540
                2 frigates, project 22350
                3 frigates, project 11356
                6 corvettes pr. 20380
                2 corvettes ave. 11661
                3 nuclear submarine pr. 955 "Borey"
                1 nuclear submarine pr. 855 "Ash"
                1 nuclear submarine pr. 971 "Schuka-B
                1 diesel-electric submarines pr. 677 "Lada"
                7 diesel-electric submarines pr. 636.3 "Varshavyanka"

                Only 15 surface warships and 13 submarines.

                19 against 28. This is not counting the fact that in the nineties the buildings built in the USSR were completed. This applies to almost all nuclear submarines. But that's enough for you too - it turns out that you lied. All the best.
                1. +3
                  6 January 2020 23: 48
                  Listen, why did you raise such a gevolt? What they did there cannot be changed ...
                  We must already think what will happen after the GDP! And there are some questions: who, what, where? Actually, I don’t see any prospects. If, hypothetically, vote for the Communists, then they have been sitting under this power for 20 years. LDPR? So if you cross over Zhirinovsky, then there is no one and there is no way to call them. In fact, the party is one person.
                  Who else? It seems that a bloody redistribution may occur. A smooth transfer of power is possible, but the people are tired.
                  It’s better to leave half an hour earlier than five minutes later. These are not my words, but they are correct.
                  1. +2
                    7 January 2020 03: 13
                    Quote: 30143
                    Listen, why did you raise such a gevolt?

                    Yes, it seems, did not bode well. The campaign came to a man on a corn. Accused of lying, well ... We checked the clock, poke, pinned the hoses to the nose. Hopefully there were no deep heart wounds.
      3. +2
        7 January 2020 01: 38
        Everything to the point, I agree 100%
      4. -1
        7 January 2020 10: 21
        Quote: kjhg
        After WWII and 7 years old, Stalin was enough to lift the country out of ruins.

        First you look at what kind of system was in the country in those years under Stalin and what it is now. Putin got a country in a situation that is more likely to be what it was after the civil war of 1917-1922. Industry is in ruin, there are a lot of enemies in the government ...
        1. -2
          8 January 2020 00: 04
          So he remained, only hid in the shadow of the Great.
    2. +7
      6 January 2020 15: 33
      A year ... from the moment it was laid down, before being put into operation, well, a little more !!! and now I wonder how much it will take ..... offensively to God

      "Orsk" was built by those who won the war. That is why the veteran has served for so long. Made soundly.
  3. +10
    6 January 2020 14: 01
    The express train doesn’t need BDKs, they don’t land equipment on the shore, and in the port an ordinary dry cargo ship can be unloaded.
    1. +1
      6 January 2020 14: 07
      I wanted to write that they had a higher speed, and then looked - there were 17 knots at full speed in their youth.
      1. -1
        6 January 2020 15: 55
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I wanted to write that they had a higher speed, and then looked - there were 17 knots at full speed in their youth.

        Normal, reliable hard worker. 13 knots runs, and will still run.
    2. +12
      6 January 2020 14: 09
      Here are just a cargo ship can inspect.
      And there is no BDK
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 14: 13
        Quote: FoxNova
        Here are just a cargo ship can inspect.

        There, civilian vessels sail quite well, including those flying foreign flags.
        https://topwar.ru/91093-siriyskiy-ekspress-i-vhodyaschie-v-ego-sostav-korabli-i-suda.html
        1. +5
          6 January 2020 14: 15
          they have a restriction, they transport only what is permitted. there are things or equipment which under no circumstances should be revealed.
          1. 0
            6 January 2020 14: 16
            Quote: Oleg kubanoid
            there are things or equipment which under no circumstances should be revealed.

            So they’ll go with escort, business something.
            1. 0
              6 January 2020 14: 18
              ordinary ships can inspect, and escort will not be able to prevent this.
              1. +2
                6 January 2020 14: 19
                Quote: Oleg kubanoid
                ordinary ships may search

                In their territorial waters, if they want, but not so.
                1. +1
                  6 January 2020 16: 36
                  Ummm, and you can get out of the World Cup without going into ter water of Turkey?
              2. +8
                6 January 2020 14: 33
                Quote: Oleg kubanoid
                ordinary ships can inspect, and escort will not be able to prevent this.

                Lord ... Already how much they wrote about this ... Oleg Kubanoid ... You probably serve in the US Navy ... And how many you detained the bulk carriers under the naval flag of the Russian Federation? wink
                1. +4
                  6 January 2020 14: 34
                  time writes - not a single one! Glory, the kindest hi
                  1. +4
                    6 January 2020 14: 40
                    Roma, the foremost! No, well, you see what is going on! Exceptional bluey fly ...
                    1. +4
                      6 January 2020 14: 40
                      but not in the subject simply .. it was already about searches ...
            2. 0
              6 January 2020 14: 56
              Quote: Gray Brother
              So they’ll go with escort, business something.

              And here is the most interesting thing. The sea tug MB-304 drags it. But if one of the power plants is out of order, then the second should work? But in the photo from the Bosphorus there is no jet behind it? They save fuel, but the tug without its help will "eat" much more?
              1. 0
                6 January 2020 23: 51
                One diesel per screw?
                If one works, then it should spin.
                If there is a gearbox, then another compote.
      2. +13
        6 January 2020 14: 16
        Quote: FoxNova
        Here are just a cargo ship can inspect.
        And there is no BDK

        Raise the naval flag on the dry cargo ship and "re-equip" with a platoon of marines - all fears of inspection will disappear.
        1. +1
          6 January 2020 14: 17
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          Raise the naval flag on the dry cargo ship and "re-equip" with a platoon of marines - all fears of inspection will disappear.

          Also an option. The flag is not even necessary.
          1. -4
            6 January 2020 14: 19
            not so simple....
            1. +2
              6 January 2020 14: 21
              Quote: Oleg kubanoid
              not so simple....

              I remember how recently quite gallant Ukrainian Navy gas platforms went to "inspect" and there the machine gunner bought all the curious - they and the plane even before the heap.
            2. +2
              6 January 2020 14: 35
              Quote: Oleg kubanoid
              not so simple....

              Yes, it’s not so simple with the drunks ... But what to do .. Just for the run, but for the neck ....
      3. +2
        6 January 2020 16: 51
        The search here does not even have to, and just a civilian vessel then falls under sanctions and cannot refuel and repair at another foreign port.
    3. +13
      6 January 2020 14: 21
      In general, yes - but there the port infrastructure is so-so, that is, which tanks / trucks are easier to unload from the BDK.

      Well, about the cargo ship = sanctions. Therefore, no one is freighting. Buy new - MO toad strangling. Although this is a question of 14 months and quite penny spending of 800 million rubles. Here's an example. They are building even in Astrakhan. 3 large holds + overall containers / oversized cargo on the deck.



      To Syria easily reach. This is a serial product, debugged in production at 4 or 5 river shipyards.

      Well, the usual bulk carriers that they bought on the secondary have died. 3 for disposal this year. 1 under repair but there is no sanction yet how to get it. 1 questioned as to the appropriateness (sanction - which is not available). 1 is still alive.

      1. +10
        6 January 2020 14: 51
        donavi49, even here, in Kostroma there are river-sea projects. But as you know, until a man crosses himself, thunder will not strike! Damn, I went through Kogor’s campaign ... With the coming!
      2. 0
        7 January 2020 18: 12
        Quote: donavi49
        Well, the usual bulk carriers that they bought on the secondary have died. 3 for disposal this year. 1 under repair but there is no sanction yet how to get it. 1 questioned as to the appropriateness (sanction - which is not available).
        It remains to think about the reasons for the use of floating trash in supplies for Syria: is it possible to assume that if sanctions are imposed that prevent their repair and / or use, they will simply be cut into metal or simply drowned.
    4. -3
      6 January 2020 15: 08
      So the Black Sea Fleet does not have dry cargo vessels. Of course, they bought 4 ships a couple of years ago (Turkish ones seem to be), but this is not enough. But civilian vessels cannot be used - in fact, the UN has banned the supply of arms to Assad.
  4. +3
    6 January 2020 14: 01
    he is 50 years old .. there is nothing surprising
    1. +3
      6 January 2020 15: 11
      he is 50 years old .. there is nothing surprising

      How is it nothing? I, for one, am very surprised that during all this time the Navy did not receive new samples in the proper amount to replace the old ones. Who would have thought, "unexpectedly broke down in the fiftieth year of operation".
      1. +1
        6 January 2020 23: 53
        They built poorly under the USSR ... Only 50 years was enough .... This is sarcasm, if that.
  5. +8
    6 January 2020 14: 14
    Laid down in August 67th, entered service in December 68th. It was a good gift for the Christmas tree, and just built for a little over a year.
  6. +5
    6 January 2020 14: 17
    More than 50 years in service. I think that the chefs from the Orenburg region will help in repairing the veteran.
    1. +1
      6 January 2020 14: 21
      there are no other options yet, there is nothing to replace.
  7. +1
    6 January 2020 14: 33
    The ship was laid down at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad on August 30, 1967. Commissioned on December 31, 1968

    Yes, he, a hard worker, is older than me!
  8. 0
    6 January 2020 14: 35
    and why is the wearing a crumpled one?
    1. +1
      6 January 2020 15: 10
      wave deformation. so in many ships - the bow skin "bends", showing the crate of the frames.
      1. +1
        6 January 2020 15: 28
        well there for iron
  9. 0
    6 January 2020 14: 40
    "Syrian Express" loses one ship: BDK "Orsk" gets up for repair

    How much joy and sarcasm began here ..
    In vain rejoice !!!
    1. -7
      6 January 2020 15: 46
      The sooner it comes to the patriots that their beloved power, headed by "who else if not him", has stolen everything, the better. But if it doesn’t come, look further on how Russia is disgraced because of your power
      1. +4
        6 January 2020 16: 44
        Quote: Sankyulot
        The sooner it comes to the patriots that their beloved power, headed by "who else if not him", has stolen everything, the better. But if it doesn’t come, look further on how Russia is disgraced because of your power

        Well let's say ... And whose power will you be? That's what I'm always trying to find out? Just unnecessarily about the people here and democracy hehe heh .. ?????
        1. -1
          6 January 2020 19: 06
          That's when it comes to other questions and there will be a world view
          1. 0
            6 January 2020 19: 36
            Quote: Sankyulot
            other questions will be and a view of the world

            If it comes, (although I think it’s unlikely - the gut is fine for you and your kind!) I will look at Judas like you only through the crosshairs of the scope, and I won’t ask questions. There is someone to prevent your power!
            1. -2
              6 January 2020 23: 59
              Well, you have all of Judah and would have to shoot them. And there are a lot of colors and shades. You ought to be quiet, but relax. Believe me, people just want to live ... love, have sex and give birth to children. And they are all different. And would you put them in operation and paint them gray?
              Few shot of people of dissent?
              1. 0
                7 January 2020 13: 45
                Throw stamps to throw. A fascist or a Bandera man is also a dissident and they were shot a lot, like they are other dissidents. Any bastard can be called a dissident and on this basis give her freedom of action, because otherwise it’s a violation of human rights. Isn’t it?
  10. +5
    6 January 2020 14: 44
    it’s easier for the Chinese to quickly buy a pair of such self-propelled guns as much as you can torment antiques.
    1. 0
      6 January 2020 15: 10
      So bought from the Turks already
    2. -2
      6 January 2020 17: 02
      Quote: Tonya
      it’s easier for the Chinese to quickly buy a pair of such self-propelled guns as much as you can torment antiques.

      Everything is easier for you among young people .. You did not understand anything in this war !!!!
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 17: 56
        immediately throw out the Chinese keyboard)) and get off the Internet) he’s almost American)
    3. +1
      6 January 2020 17: 36
      in this case, it will be possible to forget about Russian shipbuilding, who wants to buy from us if we ourselves buy from China .. although such options were considered
  11. +5
    6 January 2020 14: 55
    The engine has broken, the engine will be repaired. No one saw engines break down?
    1. -1
      6 January 2020 15: 11
      some breakdowns require engine dismantling. Can you imagine what needs to be done to extract it from this ship?
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 16: 06
        Quote: mamonthful
        some breakdowns require engine dismantling. Can you imagine what needs to be done to extract it from this ship?

        oooh. yes .. or open the deck or cut the side, you forget about the women for a long time laughing
      2. +2
        6 January 2020 16: 20
        Much easier than on other projects.
        https://2015.f.a0z.ru/03/14-3774381-1171-001.jpg
        Aft of his crane, staff hatch.
        1. -1
          6 January 2020 16: 43
          Yeah, only the car is not there a little
          https://2015.f.a0z.ru/03/14-3774381-1171-002.jpg
    2. -3
      7 January 2020 00: 01
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that in the Russian Federation they cannot be built and repaired.
      Lost competence.
  12. -1
    6 January 2020 14: 58
    At the joke, but in the sludge around the country, a lot of ships are standing! How many companies have gone broke due to the crisis and sanctions, selling property, and ships, in fact, for nothing! If only to scrape up money, the former crews to repay wage arrears. So, it’s not a strange problem with ships, there aren’t any problems for transporting goods to Syria! !!
    1. -1
      6 January 2020 15: 08
      Yes, they are all ushatannye!
    2. -1
      6 January 2020 15: 13
      strange things you say. A ship is like a truck, time is money. Why is it suddenly in plain sight? So, not everything is good with him, if it costs (it does not work and is not sold yet). Why is the RF Ministry of Defense such a ship?
  13. +4
    6 January 2020 15: 08
    Kummunists bastards, done shitty, just 51 years away!
  14. -5
    6 January 2020 15: 14
    The trouble does not come alone .... The Russian missile cruiser was injured while passing through the Bosphorus.

    Sent a few hours ago to the Mediterranean Sea, the Russian missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov received unknown damage while crossing the Bosphorus. The Turkish media published a video on which you can see how the Russian missile cruiser is towed by three Turkish ships at once.

    “The Russian missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov, who suffered from a strong current on the Bosphorus, is anchored in Fashion. The Russian warship was accompanied by three tugboats, subordinate to the Main Directorate of the Coast Guard, during its passage to the port in Moda, ”TRT Haber reports.
    Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/ekstrenno-napravlennyy-v-siriyu-raketnyy-kreyser-marshal-ustinov-postradal-pri-prohode-cherez
    1. -7
      6 January 2020 15: 43
      It’s all wondrous to blame, for 20 years now
    2. +6
      6 January 2020 17: 43
      Nothing happened to him. They took us out of narrowness by tugs and went on their own. Watch the video on YouTube.
      1. -2
        6 January 2020 18: 27
        So that's great good
      2. +4
        6 January 2020 19: 48
        Quote: otstoy
        They took us out of narrowness by tugs and went on their own.

    3. +1
      7 January 2020 00: 00
      EEE in general, he was going to Turkey, and here he meets his side and parks. Now at the anchorage, then they will drive to the pier.
  15. -7
    6 January 2020 15: 42
    Why not use yachts of Putin’s friends?
  16. +1
    6 January 2020 16: 00
    MTU on its diesel engine gives a 30 year warranty, but only after repair it broke ... sabotage.
  17. -9
    6 January 2020 16: 07
    Well, nothing, Russia will rent a couple more bulk carriers in Turkey and continue to regularly drive old equipment from mobilization warehouses to the Assad regime. Maybe he’ll throw a new one, if there is one.
  18. 0
    6 January 2020 16: 28
    To replace him, Marshal Ustinov unscheduled, with its own cargo and delivery vehicles. smile
    1. 0
      7 January 2020 00: 04
      "Marshal Ustinov" is not going to Syria, but to Turkey, or rather, he has already arrived.
  19. +1
    6 January 2020 17: 41
    Not the hardest problem. I will repair in Sevastopol, there such repairs are not the first time.
  20. +1
    6 January 2020 19: 08
    Note that the Orsk large landing craft came out of scheduled repair at the end of October 2017.

    Something is not dense in the ranks of the Russian BDK. The most important thing is that ships of this class were built in the 60s - 70s of the last century ... Clearly, it is difficult to build a ship of rank I, but what about these? If they are in demand, then why are there only four of them?

    Quote: svp67
    The steep slides drove the sivka ... I hope that more than once he will go to sea, under the flag of St. Andrew

    Is there a need for that? Has he exhausted his resource? Maybe it's time to start building new ships, and not patching fifty-year-old "oldies"?
    Although, what am I talking about some nonsense? We have new now - it’s a good and long-repaired old. The main thing at the same time is not to break into EXACTLY an arms race ... Perhaps it will cost ...
    Bitter, but it is not that "bitter" that shouts at a wedding ...
    hi
    1. +3
      6 January 2020 19: 38
      Maybe it's time to start building new ships, and not patching fifty-year-olds?

      In fact, they are being built on the sly. The large landing craft "Ivan Gren" (project 11711) is in operation, "Pyotr Morgunov" is undergoing trials, in the spring of last year, two more were laid with an increased displacement and other changes. Plus, the first two UDCs were promised to be laid in Kerch by the summer, but these will be built for a long time, seven to eight years.
    2. +3
      6 January 2020 20: 31
      You do not watch all BDK. There is another 775th project. There are much more ships and almost all of them are from the 80s and 90s.
      The 1171 tapirs of the project are used because they are roomy. If 775 MBTs are placed on the 6th project, then on Tapir - 20. They are not planned to write them off yet.
  21. -3
    6 January 2020 22: 18
    Ibid there the whole supply chain is somehow kept, I remember, had to exorbitantly buy at least some vessels on the side, a terrible shortage. That is, the loss of just one boat can disrupt all supplies. Maybe it's time to finally screw from Syria? We cannot alone pull Assad, the Syrians themselves must fight for it ... Or we must admit that Assad’s regime rests only on our bayonets and no one else needs it. He is not even needed by us, from him only losses and losses. We need only the coast. Maybe it’s more correct to agree with the powers that be on a fair division of Syria and kick this Assad into a shame?
    1. +1
      6 January 2020 23: 54
      Then whom to throw?
  22. kig
    0
    7 January 2020 05: 16
    The error message is not entirely intelligible. Two main engines, two screws. One broke, but the other, as you can understand, alive. Why not continue driving on one? Speed ​​will not drop much. Okay, it will unfold a little, but it is easy to compensate for the steering wheel.
    1. 0
      7 January 2020 19: 15
      The fact is that the second engine is unlikely to be in the best condition, and it will remain 0. The code will fail. In the sea in fine weather, nothing else. But! I would not go to the strait, where the oncoming flow is 5 km / h. Yes, and the Black Sea is now very turbulent.
  23. 0
    7 January 2020 19: 09
    Something some terribly inefficient clunker. 1.5 thousand tons of carrying capacity and 9 thousand horses of diesel, its fuel consumption at full speed will be about 35 tons per day !!
    In my company, steamboats carry 3-6 thousand tons, the daily consumption is from 2.5 to 5.5 tons! Well, maybe the speed is half as much. But where to rush then? This flight will take about 5-6 days.
    MO can not start an old man, and buy for inexpensively some more suitable steamer?