Ukrainian economy predicted the possibility of a "complete collapse"

Viktor Medvedchuk, head of the Political Council of the Ukrainian party Opposition Platform - For Life, predicted the country would further "deepen the systemic crisis" of the economy because of the "inadequacy of the government." The author spoke about this in his new article on the party’s official website.

According to the politician, the economic crisis last year did not slow down at all. On the contrary, industrial production sank significantly. In addition, far from all is well and in agriculture, and prices for agricultural products are steadily rising.

The land “reform” planned by the current government for 2020 will inevitably create new crises in Ukraine’s agriculture, which means it will lead to a new round of reduction in production and higher food prices in the country

- says an article by Medvedchuk.

The opposition leader warns of problems in the financial sphere of the state. They are allegedly threatening the country with default by 2020.

Almost everything is known in the country that the NBU together with the Ministry of Finance are building a government bonds pyramid. And if the NBU is an independent body, then the Ministry of Finance is still subordinate to the Cabinet of Ministers and could stop the construction of financial pyramids that tend to crumble

- recalled the politician.

In the final part of the article, Medvedchuk predicted the possibility of a “complete collapse of the country” while continuing the current course and called for the creation of a “government of national salvation”.

Comments

[Victoria-V]

You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera. You open Military Review: the same thing.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Victoria-In

You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera.

Maybe only because the successes of our own are at the level of statistical error, and all the news about its "successes" are covered by the Chinese media ...

Ukrainian economy predicted the possibility of a "complete collapse"

It can be seen those who predicted the collapse of capitalism, the dollar, the economy of Turkey, Poland, the inglorious end of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, the turn of Belarus to the West, the decline of Western culture and the flourishing of Russia under Vladimir:

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[Tersky]

Quote: ROSS 42

Maybe only because the successes of our own are at the level of statistical error, and all the news about its "successes" are covered by the Chinese media ...

Does Google only find Chinese media in your shop? Change the computer, maybe it's with a "bookmark". Or maybe just because you don't want to look for something that is not beneficial to you? A link to help you: https://ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_(Vladimir_Putin,_2012-2018) You will find there not only for 2012-2018 but also for earlier periods starting from zero

[major147]

Quote: Tersky

To help you:

It's like bees and flies. The first see the fields in colors, the second, respectively, manure (sorry!).

[Fan-fan]

I’ll throw it on the fan, as we are lying about Ukraine:

The minimum wage in Ukraine "suddenly turned out" to be higher than in Russia.
From January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in Ukraine is 4723 hryvnias, which is in dollar terms higher than the minimum wage in Russia. About this in "Facebook" wrote the ex-deputy chairman of the state administration of Sevastopol Dmitry Baziv.
Starting from January 1, the minimum wage in Ukraine was increased by 13,2% to UAH 4723. At the rate of the NBU as of January 3, it is 199,4 dollars.
In Russia, the minimum wage is 12130 rubles. At the rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation as of January 3, it is 195,9 dollars.

I will add that the growth rate of the Ukrainian economy is higher than the Russian one. Moskovsky Komsomolets notes that the Ukrainian economy has outpaced the Russian economy in terms of growth: in Russia, GDP growth in 2018 amounted to 2,3 percent (according to Rosstat, Ukraine's GDP growth in 2018 was 3,2 percent. Https: // finance .rambler.ru / economics / 41716174 /? utm_content = rfinance & utm_medium = read_more & utm_source = copylink
So what now, woe-patriots?

[Brturin]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Moskovsky Komsomolets notes

If about the press - RIA Novosti - The secret of the phenomenal growth of the Ukrainian economy is revealed - First of all, the low base of comparison is striking. .. Of course, the lower the indicator in the denominator, the easier it is to get a larger amount of growth. Ukrainian GDP in 2014-2015 collapsed, according to official data, by 15,8%, and by the end of 2019 it will not even reach 95% of the level of 2013 ... Ukraine is the only one of the republics of the former USSR, whose GDP by by the end of 2019, it is unlikely to reach 2/3 of the GDP level of the Ukrainian SSR in 1990! ... In 2019, the Ukrainian industry does not show growth at all ... in Ukraine, deindustrialization continues - and the industry does not act as a locomotive of growth ... the current growth is ensured ... increased consumption. Consumption is still being raised due to the transfers of Ukrainian guest workers, an increase in which gives from 1/3 to 2/3 of the entire economic "recovery" ... You can also recall the tricks with the construction of a pyramid of domestic government bonds ... https: // ria. ru / 20191031 / 1560382782.html

[bistrov.]

Quote: Fan-Fan

in dollar terms above the minimum wage in Russia.

Do you buy everything for dollars, or for rubles? First, second, a slight increase in wages in "Ukraine" is due to a tenfold increase in gas prices for the population and approximately threefold for other utilities, that is, now in winter you will pay about 2 for a one-room apartment thousand, almost half of the minimum wage, and more than half of the workers receive the minimum wage here. Delays in the payment of wages in state structures have become frequent, prices for everyday products have sharply increased, they have practically become equal to Russian ones, a tax has been introduced "on the army", it is simply impossible to live even alone on the minimum wage in "Ukraine", and some have to support it families, so don't be jealous. And third, in connection with the outflow of able-bodied people abroad (more than 10 million), it is increasingly difficult to find a person for the minimum wage, therefore, this enticement is forced
There is no real "growth" of the economy of "Ukraine" at all, where it will come from, if practically the entire machine-building industry is at a standstill. In 2013, the GDP of "Ukraine" was 190 billion dollars, in 2014, due to well-known events, it fell to 90 billion, now, allegedly, it has increased to 120 billion. What kind of "growth" can we talk about when at such a rate economic growth even to reach the level of 2013 needs almost 30 years !!!
In addition, even this "growth" is thoroughly FALSE and is due to a sharp increase in the level of taxes, consumer prices and tariffs for the population, that is, this "growth" due to the impoverishment of the people.

[Tersky]

Quote: Fan-Fan

So what now, woe-patriots?

The growth rate of the economy depends entirely on electricity consumption. Here is such an economic "rise" for 7 months of 2019.

The Ukrainian industry, excluding technological losses, reduced electricity consumption by 0,9% to 29,948 billion kWh. Including the metallurgical industry, it consumed 17,153 billion kWh (-0,9% versus January-July-2018), the fuel industry - 1 billion 995,7 million kWh (-3,3%), machine-building - 2 billion 210,5, 7,9 million kWh (-1,987%), chemical and petrochemical - 8,2 billion kWh (+ 2%), food and processing - 560,5 billion 1,9 million kWh (+ 1%) construction materials - 260,7 billion 1,1 million kWh (-2%), the other - 780,7 billion 1,9 million kWh (-XNUMX%).

So where are you together with "MK" (what a "serious" resource ) see the "growth rate"? Is that negative ... By the way, source https://interfax.com.ua/news/economic/608267.html

[atalef]

Quote: Tersky

The growth rate of the economy depends entirely on electricity consumption. Here is such an economic "rise" for 7 months of 2019.

Quote: Tersky

The Ukrainian industry, excluding technological losses, reduced electricity consumption by 0,9% to 29,948 billion kWh. Including the metallurgical industry, it consumed 17,153 billion kWh (-0,9% versus January-July-2018), the fuel industry - 1 billion 995,7 million kWh (-3,3%), machine-building - 2 billion 210,5, 7,9 million kWh (-1,987%), chemical and petrochemical - 8,2 billion kWh (+ 2%), food and processing - 560,5 billion 1,9 million kWh (+ 1%) construction materials - 260,7 billion 1,1 million kWh (-2%), the other - 780,7 billion 1,9 million kWh (-XNUMX%).

Victor, and decipher the data given - to me as a person in the subject, so to speak - nothing your data says.
The decrease is miserable, where the increase is the same is not big.
In general, the introduction of energy-saving technologies leads to lower energy consumption, while, of course, the profit increases.
Where the climatic conditions are taken into account. Warm enough winter so that the changes would be even more significant

Quote: Tersky

So where do you see "growth rates" together with MK (what a "serious" resource)?

in general, according to your data, you can’t see anything at all.

[Tersky]

Quote: atalef

me as a person in the subject, so to speak - your data does not say anything.

What position do you occupy in this "topic"? If you are on the subject, you should know that the main reason for the fall in electricity consumption is the reduction in industrial production. And that the fall in power consumption is always less than the fall in production, since enterprises remain largely so-called. household expenses (ventilation, water supply, lighting, even heating and air conditioning). And that the technological specific electricity consumption per unit of production for underloaded, but still operating equipment is higher than usual. If you are of course in the "topic".

Quote: atalef

In general, the introduction of energy-saving technologies leads to lower energy consumption, while, of course, the profit increases.

Do not confuse soft with warm. Profit will remain in place, as the number of final products will not increase, costs will decrease.

[knn54]

The trouble is that (a conversation with the deputy director of the Ukrainian design organization, they are working with Russia and Kazakhstan) Ukrainian nuclear power plants, which are trying to achieve American "fuel briquettes", have a resource left for 2-3 years of work.
And what is an economy without energy?

[atalef]

Quote: knn54

The trouble is that (a conversation with the deputy director of a Ukrainian design organization, they are working with both Russia and Kazakhstan) Ukrainian nuclear power plants, which are seeking American "fuel briquettes", have a resource left for 2-3 years of work

Well, yes, another chatter.
Resource of what?
Reactors? steam lines? Turbines? Generators?
Which reactors?
chatter and nothing more.

[Tersky]

Quote: atalef

Resource of what?

The reactors of most Ukrainian nuclear power plants are surviving in recent years. Already in 2023-2025 the first power units will appear, which will work even after major repairs. All Ukrainian reactors are water-cooled VVER-440 and VVER-1000 type. The newest Ukrainian reactor began to be constructed in 1986, exactly 30 years ago. The warranty life of the VVER-1000 reactor vessel built in the 80s is 30 years.

Quote: atalef

chatter and nothing more.

Chatter from you Sasha, forget in Google - "How many nuclear power units are closed in Ukraine" and you will be "happy". Literally on January 4 this year, an emergency shutdown of the 3rd unit of the South-Ukrainian NPP took place. IAEA sanctions against Ukraine are just a matter of time.

[Alex Nevs]

And sho Estonia, Latvia Lithuania still developing aki Outskirts? And from the dollar calculation a LOT! refused. Although many are sitting on this needle.

[Bar2]

ukrov everyone crashing but sluggish but the bandera doesn’t fall in any way. Putin throws up some money, the states have weapons, they had to crash the nuclear power plants at American assemblies, but they’re holding on.
Who is really bad in Ukraine is the Russian people. It becomes really bad for the people, but this non-Russian power is strong.

[Tersky]

Quote: Bar2

Putin throws some money

Do not announce the account number and amount?

[Victoria-V]

Are you kidding me ? Or are you an agent? 2.9 billion given a week ago?

[Tersky]

Quote: Victoria-In

Are you kidding me ?

Not at all, Bar2 does it.

Quote: Victoria-In

Or are you an agent?

I definitely don’t, but you are in doubt.

Quote: Victoria-In

2.9 billion given a week ago?

Personally, Putin or is Gazprom for transit?

[Victoria-V]

Do you have comments on the principle "Your ears are cold"?

[Tersky]

Quote: Victoria-In

Do you have comments on the principle "Your ears are cold"?

I can’t be familiar to, in the absence of arguments we turn to the individual. All? Did Victoria-B merge? Tip - for trolling, look for someone else

[atalef]

Quote: Tersky

Personally, Putin or is Gazprom for transit?

actually, personally, Putin has nothing apart from an apartment, 2 21-volga and a Scythian trailer.
But Gazprom, of course, is not Putin.
This is when Gazprom has everything ok - then - Putin, but how - no --- no, Putin has nothing to do with it.

[Bar2]

Quote: Tersky

Quote: Bar2

Putin throws some money

Do not announce the account number and amount?

Yes, everyone knows 3 billion were sued

[Tersky]

Quote: Bar2

Yes, everyone knows 3 billion were sued

Have you read my previous comment carefully?

[Fan-fan]

You have not written there yet about 3 lard greens that Putin managed to give the Ukrainians to the Maidan, exactly the New Year 2014.
And how many weathercocks are here on the site:
The scribe, how they yelled that Ukraine would be covered with a copper basin in 2015, and how many times they yapped here that the Ukrainians would definitely not survive the next winter, they waited like manna from heaven, that in 2020 Ukraine will not have money, because the transit of gas will stop and the pipe of Ukraine will go for scrap, and now we have signed contracts for 5 years for gas and 10 years for oil, and again everyone yells "hurray! Then we will show!"
They wouldn’t be dishonored all over the world, where is the guarantee that Russia will not owe Ukraine a coffin under the new contracts?
Say rude, but banned.
Weathervanes.

[Tersky]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Scribehow they screamed that Ukraine would be covered with a copper basin in 2015, and how many times yapping

Are you in a dog shelter or on the VO site? Pick up words; in Russian there are plenty of other synonyms.

[Alex Nevs]

As for non-Russian power, you are wrong. On the contrary, it is weakening. For without Vaseline .... and clever thought comes.

[Baloo]

Quote: Victoria-In

You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera. You open Military Review: the same thing.

A fire is being stubbornly built under our fence, which can lead to a global catastrophe and large-scale problems for ourselves.

[Fan-fan]

And why did the great “grandmaster of political chess” allow our border to be set on fire? Where is his cunning plan? Where is his "great" foreign policy? Moreover, the same fire is brewing from the side of Belarus.

[Tersky]

Quote: Victoria-In

You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera.

Switch to the "Rain" channel, there is just what you need

Quote: Victoria-In

You open Military Review: the same thing.

Are you forced to do this? Not, ? Is this your expression of will? If so, what could be the questions for VO?

[Alex Nevs]

Yes, the channel Rain would have chosen EBN and would have handed over with giblets with a dancer.

[smart ass]

What’s interesting to me is how can nightingales talk on the same topic for several years?

[The leader of the Redskins]

"... And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ..."
Everything is classic. And if you google the early Solovyov, Kiselev, Norkin, then peering into young faces and listening to the fact that "people hawala this is not about them ...", you wonder. What broke you guys on? ...

[smart ass]

Money and civil service broke the guys

[dauria]

What did you guys break on? ....

Nobody broke them. Try to break the rubber hose. At the beginning of the XNUMXs, NTV was broken - yes, there was still a crack. After that, they unanimously realized "what's the difference who pays the money"

[orionvitt]

Quote: Clever man

how can nightingales on the same subject speak for several years?

Because, the patient (Ukraine) is dying slowly. Strong is the Soviet backlog. But now the patient has already gone irreversible metastases and the process is accelerating. It seems to be still alive, and it seems to even move, and a piercing voice beeps, but getting up is no longer fate, not like walking. And more and more falls into insanity and dying nonsense. Which we are observing. And Solovyov, that, he simply states the facts. By the way, in his programs, he does not so weakly criticize internal Russian problems (the fifth column allows), without urging to destroy the state. If you have not noticed this.

[Fan-fan]

Stop lying, you’ve been waiting for 5 years and promise everyone the end of the Ukrainians, but nevertheless:
"The growth rate of the Ukrainian economy is higher than the Russian one. Moskovsky Komsomolets notes that the Ukrainian economy outpaced the Russian one in terms of growth: in Russia, GDP growth in 2018 amounted to 2,3 percent (according to Rosstat, Ukraine's GDP growth in 2018 was 3,2, 41716174 percent. Https://finance.rambler.ru/economics/XNUMX/?utm_content=rfinance&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink "
So what now, woe-patriots?

[orionvitt]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Stop lying, have been waiting for 5 years and promise everyone the end of Ukrainians

I from Ukraine somehow know better. And stop lying to you that everything is bad in Russia. You simply do not know what is bad, or have already forgotten. And if you are not many years old, then maybe you don’t remember. I wish you to live in Ukraine, so that your mouth is not opened once again, about who, where and how is lying.

[Vadim237]

And this so-called economic growth is driven by handouts from the IMF. In what condition their economy can be judged by the railway fleet, most of the locomotives and wagons will soon turn 70 years old.

[Alex Justice]

My relatives from Ivano-Frankivsk say that all enterprises do not work, that specialists abroad cannot even be found.
Where is the rise of the economy?

[RUSS]

Quote: Victoria-In

You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera. You open Military Review: the same thing.

Their year after year is the same: crash and collapse are predicted by Ukraine, haven’t you been tired of them for 6 years?

[kjhg]

This figure has been singing this song since the 90s. With existing support from Russia, Ukraine will not fall apart. To do this, Russia in 2014 had to completely break off relations, not recognize Poroshenko and implement an economic blockade. But the question again rested on the PIPE. So our business is a "pipe", while everything rests against the PIPE.

[The leader of the Redskins]

This person in Ukropia will never be forgiven for being (nominally) V. Stus’s lawyer and a godfather of GDP. And his speeches ... They are for us, and especially for those who do not watch the Ukrainian media.

[Pessimist22]

Economically kill and take back their land in the southeast, the rest is on the balance sheet of the EU.

[Alex Nevs]

Wrong expression "economically kill". This is to Canaal Rain. You are thinking people. Economic "education" (for those who are not prepared to read compulsion). For only in comparison is TRUTH known. And let them choose ala "Libya" or "Syria". And where was the statehood preserved?

[Mountain shooter]

Many who played in "MMM" In the 90s knew that the pyramid could collapse at any moment, but HOPED that they would have time to jump out. And how will the whole country "jump out"? IMHO, through DEFAULT ...

[atalef]

According to your media, Ukraine is buried daily for 5 years, there were already 1000 scripts,
Not tired?
Shl.

The Ukrainian currency was significantly ahead of other world currencies, which demonstrate a revaluation in 2019.
Since the beginning of the year, the Ukrainian hryvnia has strengthened against the dollar by 19%, which is the best indicator among world currencies, Bloomberg writes.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: atalef

Not tired?
Shl.

Friends sent a video from Kiev. The streets have become a "flea market" ... Prices continue to rise. And what about the people with the "strengthening" of the hryvnia?
The Russian ruble also strengthened by 12% ... Only we have prices! And so, the pension is 20 thousand rubles. was at the beginning of 19 - $ 290 and at the beginning of 20 - they added 1200, and became - 340 ... A trifle, but nice.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Only we have prices!

Have you been to the store for a long time? They are standing ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Have you been to the store for a long time? They are standing ...

Yesterday ... There was a small jump under NG, but this is on the market ... And so - the seasonal drift in prices for vegetables and fruits, so far no more ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yesterday ... There was a small leap under NG, but this is on the market ...

Me too - on the eve ... Oil, eggs are becoming more expensive again. And not in the market, in the store.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Me too - on the eve ... Oil, eggs are becoming more expensive again. And not in the market, in the store.

Please provide the numbers. I will compare. And then there are eggs from several manufacturers, and oil at least 6 grades.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Please provide the numbers.

Do you think I want to remember them? Already my head is spinning from these figures. I do not keep checks. How do you suggest me bring them? 51 eggs were the cheapest. There were 49, It was in the USSR for twenty years prices were.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Please provide the numbers. I will compare. And then there are eggs from several manufacturers,

Just went. The cheapest eggs - 64 rubles. The cheapest oil is 81.

[Tersky]

Quote: atalef

According to your media, Ukraine is buried daily for 5 years,

Just like in your Arabs, but with a much longer statute of limitations. Sasha, did you even understand from the article who voiced this forecast? And here is our media? Come back and re-read, sometimes it helps to rethink what was said before.

[atalef]

Quote: Tersky

Just like in your Arabs, but with a much longer statute of limitations.

Yes, they don’t bury them and the transmission like Solovyov and others like him, we do not and cannot be a priori.

Quote: Tersky

Sasha, did you even understand from the article who voiced this forecast?

Of course I realized - another expert who was torn from the trough in Ukraine

Quote: Tersky

And here is our media?

And how do they differ from him? Only one - such a conclusion they first voiced about 5 years ago.

[askort154]

atalef According to your media, Ukraine is buried daily for 5 years, there were already 1000 scripts,
Not tired?


And you are not tired of being "blind". Russia was "buried" for 20 years. The Anglo-Saxons were confident that the Russian Federation would continue to fall apart automatically after the collapse of the USSR. But they miscalculated, now they "bite their elbows." Russia not only did not collapse, but became sharply stronger. And what about Ukraine during this period?
The Civil War, with the loss of territories that were previously granted to it by the USSR. With such a political and economic distance from Russia, with which the whole economy was tied, the prospects for maintaining Ukrainian statehood will decrease every year. It is obvious.
The EU economy of Ukraine will not burden on its shoulders, as was done for the Baltic countries. Artificially created Ukraine is doomed.

[atalef]

Quote: askort154

And you are not tired of being "blind". Russia was "buried" for 20 years

did you watch the SNN and read the enemy media? Do you speak bourgeois?

Quote: askort154

The Anglo-Saxons were confident that the Russian Federation would continue to fall apart automatically after the collapse of the USSR.

Were you sure of the hell?

Quote: askort154

Russia not only did not fall apart, but increased sharply.

Well, for vertical and stability

Quote: askort154

. And what is Ukraine over this period?

Nothing, the standard of living in Ukraine is not much different from the Russian.
They are worse, but not so dramatically.

Quote: askort154

The Civil War, with the loss of territories that were previously granted to it by the USSR.

Well, in the first part - the merit of the elder brother, and in the second - learn the story about gifts.

Quote: askort154

With such a political and economic distance from Russia, with which the whole economy was tied, the prospects for maintaining Ukrainian statehood will decrease every year. It is obvious

I heard about 5 years ago, Ukraine should have disappeared 3 years ago, and Novorossia ...
And what about New Russia?

Quote: askort154

The EU economy of Ukraine will not burden on its shoulders, as was done for the Baltic countries. Artificially created Ukraine is doomed.

Yes Yes
The collapse of capitalism is inevitable, the next generation of Soviet citizens will live under communism.
already heard somewhere.

[Alex Nevs]

So and "nezalezhnist" does not lead to a rise. This is evident. Only the robbery is continued deeper. We have reached the land and transplantology (there are already official prices for organs).

[Alex Nevs]

Firstly, the larger the region (country), the longer it falls (and deeper) then the longer it rises (lagging behind others).

[Fan-fan]

And we in 1991, something fell very quickly. Although they were the largest country.

[Alex Nevs]

The legs are rotten. Colossus and could not resist. The Communists themselves destroyed their foundation.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I am now out of Dill. At the father. Yesterday in Kiev was ... Send a video that there is no flea market? Everyone sees what he wants. You can go to the chamber of measures and skeptically notice that architecture is not a fountain, and the guard's face is not welcoming ... Neighbors live. Do not freeze and do not stand with outstretched hand. But I will not write an article about this - the editors will not like it ...

[Mountain shooter]

Eh, the video is not inserted.

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Send a video that there is no flea market

I do not insert. Maybe you can do it somehow?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, I did not shoot. But you believe, if tomorrow or when I take off? Do not believe it.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Well, I did not shoot. But you believe, if tomorrow or when I take off? Don't believe

I’ll ask a friend to send a photo.

[Tersky]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I do not insert. Maybe you can do it somehow?

"Flea market on Petrovka. Flea market in Kiev 2019." "Flea market on Andriyivsky Uzviz. Kiev 2019"

[The leader of the Redskins]

I hope that the inhabitants of Kiev will not let you lie - Petrovka is a very large market complex, which includes the largest book market, second-hand and clothing. And St. Andrew's Descent is an analogue of our Arbat. Well, the fact that someone called them their flea markets ... So this is not correct and this is not all of Kiev!

[Tersky]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Well, the fact that someone called them flea markets ...

So the Kiyavlyans themselves call them so ... I would not say, but in the Kiev-Svyatoshensky district (Hotiv, next to Novoselki 40 minutes from the Vladimirovsky market by an ordinary city route), the relatives of the ex-wife live to all, the niece on the second wife lives in Kiev, has a small business that no-no yes feeds from these "heaps" So somehow "a little" does not work out for you ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

No! ))) This is not your way out - following your logic, the European flea market is a hotbed of unsanitary conditions, not antiques!))) Ask relatives what Petrovka is and where they buy textbooks for children!

[atalef]

Quote: Tersky

Flea market on Petrovka. Flea market in Kiev 2019. "

On the Andreevsky Descent, the trade in antiques, souvenirs, etc. probably still exists before my first visit to Kiev, and that was in 1997.
So, ordinary souvenir and antique shops, no different from the like in St. Petersburg, Moscow or Stockholm.
such videos can be filmed in any country.
It all depends on how to file.
Andrew's Descent

and so what ?

[Alex Justice]

We have many such markets in Melbourne.

[atalef]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I am now out of Dill. At the father. Yesterday in Kiev was ... Send a video that there is no flea market? Everyone sees what he wants. You can go to the chamber of measures and skeptically notice that architecture is not a fountain, and the guard's face is not welcoming ... Neighbors live. Do not freeze and do not stand with outstretched hand. But I will not write an article about this - the editors will not like it ...

who will believe you?
I was in Lviv last year.
Natsik did not go, he spoke Russian everywhere.
Great service, calm, prices below the skirting board.
Only who will believe.

[Tersky]

Quote: atalef

Natsik did not go, he spoke Russian everywhere.

Quote: atalef

Only who will believe.

Well, of course, who will believe .... ukranews.com
"About 600 people held a rally on January 1 to mark the birthday of the leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) in the XNUMXth century, Stepan Bandera, in Lviv." And this is also unlikely to be believed ....

[Alex Nevs]

And you have to write. All that is visible is nado. And everyone can compare levels. And if anything, the cameras will show online. But even so it’s not very clear! Very not so!

[Victoria-V]

Because Gazprom has dozens of State Department agents. It is good that they agreed not 10 billion, but only 2.9 ...

[Alex Nevs]

Not true about agents. It seems so. Here the moves are far ahead recorded.

[alavrin]

You can scam eight hours a day on three channels about the death of Ukraine, but in fact, unpleasant, for example, for me, the minimum level of wages in Ukraine from January 1 has become higher than in Russia and Belarus. This is once again the issue of redistributing income from natural rents. How many dollar billionaires do we have there?

[Victoria-V]

Can not be. And what are the numbers?

[alavrin]

According to the decree of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, the minimum wage in the Russian Federation from January 1, 2020 was increased to 12130 rubles ($ 196 at the exchange rate).
The minimum wage in Belarus has been raised to 375 Belarusian rubles ($ 178).
At the same time, in Ukraine, the minimum salary for 2020 was set by the government at the level of 4723 hryvnias ($ 199 at the exchange rate). For the first time since the year 91, one of the indicators of social payments in Ukraine overtook similar payments in the Russian Federation.

[cniza]

Quote: alavrin

For the first time since the year 91, one of the indicators of social payments in Ukraine overtook similar payments in the Russian Federation.

These are not payments, this is the bar ... in fact, the numbers are different, and here they are not very encouraging either.

[Piramidon]

Quote: alavrin

4723 hryvnias (199 dollars at the exchange rate)

The main thing is not how many dollars you can buy for these hryvnias, but how much grub, clothes and utilities.

[Brturin]

Quote: alavrin

For the first time since the year 91, one of the indicators of social payments in Ukraine overtook similar payments in the Russian Federation.

Only at what price - for 2019, the hryvnia has strengthened against the dollar by 16,5%. Of the latter, Bloomberg: A strengthened hryvnia creates a budget headache for Ukraine. And with such strengthening, hello to exporters. There is an opinion that the decline in industrial production in Ukraine (the decline in industrial production in November compared to November of the previous year accelerated to 7,5%) is also due to the hryvnia strengthening .... we will see

[Victoria-V]

And here is Russophobia? At the expense of the minimum wage figures?

[Tersky]

Quote: alavrin

the minimum wage in Ukraine since January 1 has become higher than in Russia and Belarus

Gordon will not tell you that either. You will share this with my brother-in-law and daughter-in-law living in the Golaya pier of the Kherson region, just before they answer, cover your ears with your hands ...

[alavrin]

And here Gordon. I took this from Russian sources and not from a new newspaper and the like. And about the ears ... - in my regional, I emphasize, city, 300 km from Moscow, the sellers are invited to work full-time - 17 thousand rubles. per month, workers - 18-20 thousand. This is in 2020. Half of the city is in Moscow. Let me remind you that in 2018, oil production amounted to 560 million tons. The absolute record. I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of being taught to love my homeland by propagandists with a salary of 1-2 million per month.

[Tersky]

Quote: alavrin

in my regional, I emphasize, city, 300 km from Moscow, they are inviting full-time sellers to work - 17 thousand rubles. per month,

You can also invite for 3 thousand, the question is whether I agree or not. Don't forget about the "gray" salary.

Quote: alavrin

Half of the city is in Moscow.

There is half of Russia.

Quote: alavrin

Let me remind you that in 2018, oil production amounted to 560 million tons. The absolute record.

Do you work in the field of oil production or refining? No? Then what does oil have to do with your salary?

[alavrin]

1. Invite and work, even for less money. But these are people from the surrounding areas in the area. Work for 16-18-20. As for the gray salary, these illusions will disappear after your first contact with the tax authorities. It took place in the 90s, a little more problematic in the 0s and much more dangerous now.
+ In addition, it is dirty, there is also a system of fines, as well as, I agree, and rewards. But, as an example, until June last year, TTP drivers in our regional city received 12 thousand (!), They only got 1,5. with weekends and 20 shifts. After the intervention of the council, they were only raised to 17-18 at the end of the year.
2. Half of Russia, yes. And is that normal? In that TTP, there is a shortage of drivers, all the young people left - is this the progressive development of the regions, or what is it called there? Only two enterprises are operating normally, and the list of plundered and plundered allied values ​​is more than ten, some of which went bankrupt just a couple of years ago.
3. I have, I have. As a citizen of this country. In Norway, Saudi Arabia, and earlier in Libya (before the collapse), any citizen (filed) (I now take only a few examples of oil-producing countries) had and has the right to natural rent. And this is not only 10 thousand dollars to a personal account from the day of birth, as in Saudi Arabia, but also free housing, insurance and not a salary of $ 200 per month! I also recommend that you look at the Gini coefficient - the difference in income is 10% of the poorest and richest. So in Russia it is the highest in Europe! And again, our problems are glossed over to us by Ukraine.

[Tersky]

Quote: alavrin

After the intervention of the council, they were only raised to 17-18 at the end of the year.

And the union is pocket-sized.

Quote: alavrin

And is that normal? In that TTP, there is a shortage of drivers, all the young people left - is this the progressive development of the regions, or what is it called there?

The governors are responsible for the regions, it is clear that money is flowing to Moscow, but they also flow from there. But how they are spent locally is a question.

Quote: alavrin

I have, I have. As a citizen of this country. In Norway, Saudi Arabia, and earlier in Libya (before the collapse), any citizen (filed) (I now take only a few examples of oil-producing countries) had and has the right to natural rent.

Brezhnev L.I. didn’t try to ask the same question?

[alavrin]

And under Brezhnev, free housing was being built, I’m not talking about housing and communal services at all, or there are gas prices .. Yes, there were some problems and considerable ones, but the Russian population was growing, but not decreasing, and this is the main criterion for me. Regarding the money that flows in and out - get acquainted with the number of donor regions and their dynamics in Russia. As a criterion for the effectiveness of current economic policies.

[Tersky]

Quote: alavrin

And under Brezhnev, free housing was being built, I’m not talking about housing and communal services at all, or are there gas prices ..

Do you want to say that the country's budget was filled only with taxes? All this is "free" just oil, gas, timber. etc. etc.

Quote: alavrin

Regarding the money that flows in and out - get acquainted with the number of donor regions and their dynamics in Russia.

The sign is no worse and no better than yours, I have not forgotten how to read. Only once you forgot about the 15 union republics, and who was their donor.

Quote: alavrin

. Yes, there were problems and considerable ones, but the population of Russia grew, but not decreased

Again, mainly due to the Central Asian republics. And there were no problems less than now. Believe me, as a deputy of three convocations, two of which were worked out in the commission on housing and communal services, and one - trade. And then do not sculpt minus in vain, to me they are somehow exactly ....

[alavrin]

I’m not minus you, not before that, because you are taking the discussion itself to a different plane. I am talking about the current economic situation, the current donor regions and not about the Brezhnev era. And to finish: look at the demographic statistics for those years - the population grew in all republics, including in the RSFSR. To a lesser extent than in Central Asia, but grew. Moreover, in recent years, before perestroika, the pace even increased slightly, namely in the RSFSR. On this I take my leave.

[Vadim237]

Now look at the number of abortions in the RSFSR in relation to those born - this is generally fierce trash. In the last year of abortion in Russia, there were 450000; their number is decreasing every year; in fact, there is a reserve to reverse mortality.

[Alex Nevs]

Again you are talking about the "average temperature in the hospital."

[cniza]

In the final part of the article, Medvedchuk predicted the possibility of a “complete collapse of the country”

There has never been such a state of Ukraine and apparently will not ...

[Alex Nevs]

Future plans for the whole outskirts. And there, as it turns out, maybe even cut the bigger shmat (most likely). And the caches themselves will leave.

[Brturin]

"Deepening the systemic crisis" of the economy

and the collapse is still different things ... Iran is now heard

Tehran, December 23, IRNA - The World Steel Association, in its latest report, reported a 5,3% increase in steel production in Iran compared to the same period last year. The average growth in steel production in the world is 2,7%. The growth in steel production in Iran is twice the global growth.
The World Steel Association has called Iran's steel production for 11 months of 2019 23 million 648 thousand tons. In 2018, Iran's steel production amounted to 22 million 452 thousand tons. Iran ranks 10th among world steel producers. The country could become the 7th largest steel producer in the world in 2021, reaching a production capacity of 55 million tons of steel.

Sanctions are, of course, sanctions, but only in 2013 Ukraine was in 7th place, according to the same World Steel Association. In November, Ukraine dropped to 15th place in the list of world steel producers. - Association of metallurgical companies "Ukrmetalprom" - "This is the worst indicator for the entire period of existence of independent Ukraine."

[Fan-fan]

Hooray, Ukraine dropped to 15th place, nice, this is a joy for all Russians. Now we can sleep peacefully, we are not alone in the pope.

[Snail N9]

Well, finally, the next "how bad it is in Ukraine", how soon it will "crash, go broke, go bankrupt, be sold out, etc." ....., before they also added - "freeze", now they don't add, it's strange, really ? Yes, yes, do not forget to remind us about "how bad it is in Ukraine" in order to set off against its background the "successes" (in quotation marks) of Russia ...

[prior]

Viktor Medvedchuk predicted the country further "deepening the systemic crisis" of the economy due to the "inadequacy of the government."

I understand that he said this about Russia. Well, rightly said.

[Semurg]

Medvedchuk called for the creation of a "government of national salvation", he turns out to be a Jewish fascist Bandera who wants to save Ukraine. True, it may be that Hpp Medvedchuk will head the government of "national salvation" and destroy Ukraine.

[Dimly]

the possibility of a "complete collapse of the country" while continuing the current course and called for the creation of a "government of national salvation."

Well, then don’t go to the grandmother, everything goes .... Half of the population in Russia at the wages, the other part in Poland washes dishes and toilets ..
The smallest Bandera workers do not want to work .. They are shelling the Donbass! Well, the Jews, whose units in power are doing quietly things .. Glory to the outskirts, as they say

[Alex Nevs]

In the Russian Federation on earnings ... and in the west in dishes and in pots, the difference is what after all.

[Dimly]

Quote: Alex Nevs

In the Russian Federation on earnings ... and in the west in dishes and in pots, the difference is what after all.

And then they are already being driven there with a broom, they are yelling too much .. And in Russia we are silent and working, as expected.

[Snigir]

Every year, TV (newspapers, the Internet) reported about the "complete collapse" of the economy in Ukraine, but in 2020 I will finally wait for the "complete collapse of the economy"

[Fan-fan]

Yes, we have been told 631 times that Ukraine will collapse, and this time this is the latest and most true prediction.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Victoria-In

Are you kidding me ? Or are you an agent? 2.9 billion given a week ago?

Do not chat. Study the history of the imposition of a fine on Russia by the Stockholm court. And rejoice at the verdict- "In connection with the difficult situation in Ukraine, to award ..." We did not bother, since the appeal was decided in our favor, and, in order to reassure the recipients, agreed. This opened the way for the resumption of transit, and gave time to complete the construction of Nord Stream 2. A break in transit would threaten Russia with much greater losses from European countries. who have not received gas under previously concluded contracts.
There is Russian gas in the Ukrainian pipe, and Turkish gas in the Turkish one. There are other conditions for pumping gas. Erdogan buys ALL gas in the pipe, and then it is up to him, to whom, how, and at what price ..... There were other relations with Ukraine earlier. Hence the different transit conditions.
The decrease in transit in the first months of the year is also a good lever, a threat to the Europeans, and a way of putting pressure on ukrov. Gas volumes are calculated per year. And now we have the opportunity to give so much so that there is no accident. Minimum minimum. Almost zero. And let the "partners" rehearse their mood in winter conditions.

[Fan-fan]

Here's another explanation, that a fine of 3 lard is a blessing for the people of Russia, that they say, thank God, that they did not "shod" us for a large amount. Moreover, the fact that we were "shod" by the explainers are silent, but they colorfully describe to us all the benefits of this shoe.

[Zomanus]

Yes, all do not care for this Ukraine.
When was the last time she was predicted to crash there?
It seems right this year, right after the cessation of gas transit, right?
And before that, she is predicted to collapse once a quarter.
And somehow, there’s still no crash.
Yes, the country is sinking, sinking specifically.
So this is due to the loss of the Russian market and difficulties in finding new markets.
But they will find markets and begin to live on.
But the collapse just do not have to wait.

[Alex Justice]

It is an agricultural country, like Bulgaria or Romania. It’s sad.

[Alex Nevs]

More specifically about "find markets" can you? It seems that they have already "sent horses".

[bar]

generally threaten the country with default by 2020.

In fact, the default on the outskirts happened when she refused to pay 3 yards on her obligations to Russia. But the "world community" prefers not to notice it. It will not notice the following defaults either.

[Pavel Burtovoy]

About https://ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (Vladimir_Putin, _2012-2018) .... Most of these are either investment projects of foreign companies (foreign technology, income from the Russian Federation), or the construction of 3% commercial projects for the export of resources (here construction of infrastructure for export), or any kind of cockerel like stadiums (0 new football ones have already been held, the foundation is of poor quality). East already only lazy did not make out. During its construction, the USSR brought the satellite and man into space from 3. There is a lot about the fleet: 2 were written off, one was introduced (piece production, 3-XNUMX series are not series) - this is happening now. Do not look for flaws. They are already visible with the naked eye. And if the reconstruction of a coal-fired thermal power plant is entered on the site of achievements along with nuclear power plants, this is called: everything in one heap, if only the list was longer. The government of the Russian Federation learned to PR better than many. I would record this as an achievement (and again, using all the latest developments of Western and Eastern corporations). Thanks to all.

[iouris]

You don't need to be a politician to generate such "predictions". Where will the Russian economy be at this time?

[Vadim237]

At least a much better condition than the Ukrainian, as the latter is increasingly drowning in debt to the IMF.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

And that Ukrainians have an economy?

[LeonidL]

"The head of the Political Council of the Ukrainian party" Opposition Platform - For Life "Viktor Medvedchuk predicted the country a further" deepening of the systemic crisis "of the economy due to the" inadequacy of the government. "- We are waiting! Rather, this misunderstanding would have collapsed into logical regional components. And if instead of the Maidan and the law on MOV federalization, everything would go fine.

[georggy]

On the territory of the USSR, it has long been destroyed in all the former republics of humpback, ebn, gdp.