Ukrainian economy predicted the possibility of a "complete collapse"


Viktor Medvedchuk, head of the Political Council of the Ukrainian party Opposition Platform - For Life, predicted the country would further "deepen the systemic crisis" of the economy because of the "inadequacy of the government." The author spoke about this in his new article on the party’s official website.


According to the politician, the economic crisis last year did not slow down at all. On the contrary, industrial production sank significantly. In addition, far from all is well and in agriculture, and prices for agricultural products are steadily rising.

The land “reform” planned by the current government for 2020 will inevitably create new crises in Ukraine’s agriculture, which means it will lead to a new round of reduction in production and higher food prices in the country

- says an article by Medvedchuk.

The opposition leader warns of problems in the financial sphere of the state. They are allegedly threatening the country with default by 2020.

Almost everything is known in the country that the NBU together with the Ministry of Finance are building a government bonds pyramid. And if the NBU is an independent body, then the Ministry of Finance is still subordinate to the Cabinet of Ministers and could stop the construction of financial pyramids that tend to crumble

- recalled the politician.

In the final part of the article, Medvedchuk predicted the possibility of a “complete collapse of the country” while continuing the current course and called for the creation of a “government of national salvation”.
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  1. Victoria-V 5 January 2020 08: 56 New
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    You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera. You open Military Review: the same thing.
    1. Ross xnumx 5 January 2020 09: 00 New
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      Quote: Victoria-In
      You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera.

      Maybe only because the successes of our own are at the level of statistical error, and all the news about its "successes" are covered by the Chinese media ... wassat
      Ukrainian economy predicted the possibility of a "complete collapse"

      It can be seen those who predicted the collapse of capitalism, the dollar, the economy of Turkey, Poland, the inglorious end of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, the turn of Belarus to the West, the decline of Western culture and the flourishing of Russia under Vladimir:
      1. Tersky 5 January 2020 09: 17 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        Maybe only because the successes of our own are at the level of statistical error, and all the news about its "successes" are covered by the Chinese media ...

        Does Google find only Chinese media in your country? Change the computer, maybe it is with a "bookmark". Or maybe only because you don’t want to look for something that is not profitable for you? Link to help you: https://ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_(Vladimir_Putin ,_2012-2018) You will find there not only for 2012-2018 but also for earlier periods starting from zero
        1. major147 5 January 2020 11: 32 New
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          Quote: Tersky
          To help you:

          It's like bees and flies. The first see the fields in colors, the second, respectively, manure (sorry!).
          1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 07 New
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            I’ll throw it on the fan, as we are lying about Ukraine:

            The minimum wage in Ukraine "suddenly turned out to be" higher than in Russia.
            From January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in Ukraine is 4723 hryvnias, which is in dollar terms higher than the minimum wage in Russia. About this in "Facebook" wrote the ex-deputy chairman of the state administration of Sevastopol Dmitry Baziv.
            Starting from January 1, the minimum wage in Ukraine was increased by 13,2% to UAH 4723. At the rate of the NBU as of January 3, it is 199,4 dollars.
            In Russia, the minimum wage is 12130 rubles. At the rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation as of January 3, it is 195,9 dollars.

            I will add that the growth rate of the Ukrainian economy is higher than the Russian one. Moskovsky Komsomolets notes that the Ukrainian economy was ahead of the Russian one in terms of growth: in Russia, GDP growth in 2018 amounted to 2,3 percent (according to Rosstat, Ukraine's GDP growth in 2018 amounted to 3,2 percent. Https: // finance .rambler.ru / economics / 41716174 /? utm_content = rfinance & utm_medium = read_more & utm_source = copylink
            So what now, woe-patriots?
            1. Brturin 5 January 2020 13: 29 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Moskovsky Komsomolets notes

              If the press - RIA Novosti - The secret of the phenomenal growth of the Ukrainian economy is revealed - First of all, a low comparison base is striking. .. Of course, the smaller the indicator in the denominator, the easier it is to get a larger growth rate. According to official figures, Ukrainian GDP fell in 2014-2015 by 15,8%, and by the end of 2019 it will not even reach 95% of the level of 2013 ... Ukraine is the only republic of the former USSR that has a GDP of By the end of 2019, it is unlikely to reach 2/3 of the GDP of the Ukrainian SSR of 1990! ... In 2019, the Ukrainian industry does not show growth at all ... Deindustrialization continues in Ukraine - and industry does not act as a locomotive of growth ... current growth is provided ... increase in consumption. Consumption has so far been able to increase due to transfers of Ukrainian guest workers, an increase of which gives from 1/3 to 2/3 of the entire economic "recovery" ... You can still recall the tricks with the construction of the pyramid of bonds of the domestic state loan ... https: // ria. com / 20191031 / 1560382782.html
            2. bistrov. 5 January 2020 13: 41 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              in dollar terms above the minimum wage in Russia.

              Do you buy everything for dollars, or for rubles ?, First, second, a certain increase in salaries in "Ukraine" is due to a tenfold increase in gas prices for the population and about threefold for other utilities, that is, now in winter you will pay about 2 for a one-room apartment thousand, almost half of the minimum wage, and more than half of the workers here receive the minimum wage. Delays in payment of salaries in government agencies became frequent, prices for everyday products rose sharply, they were almost equal to Russian ones, the army tax was introduced, it is simply impossible to live on one’s minimum wage in Ukraine, and some are forced to support it family, so do not envy. And the third, in connection with the outflow of able-bodied people abroad (more than 10 million), it is increasingly difficult to find a person for a minimum wage, therefore, this enticement is forced
              There is no real "growth" of the economy of "Ukraine" in sight of where it will come from, if almost the entire engineering industry is worth it. In 2013, Ukraine’s GDP was $ 190 billion, in 2014, due to well-known events, it fell to 90 billion, now, supposedly, it has risen to 120 billion. What kind of “growth” can we talk about when at such a pace economic growth, even to achieve the level of 2013 requires almost 30 years !!!
              In addition, even this "growth" through and through is FALSE and is due to a sharp increase in the level of taxes, consumer prices and tariffs for the population, that is, this "growth" due to the impoverishment of the people.
            3. Tersky 5 January 2020 21: 24 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              So what now, woe-patriots?

              The growth rate of the economy is completely dependent on electricity consumption. Here is such an economic “recovery” for 7 months of 2019.
              The Ukrainian industry, excluding technological losses, reduced electricity consumption by 0,9% to 29,948 billion kWh. Including the metallurgical industry, it consumed 17,153 billion kWh (-0,9% versus January-July-2018), the fuel industry - 1 billion 995,7 million kWh (-3,3%), machine-building - 2 billion 210,5, 7,9 million kWh (-1,987%), chemical and petrochemical - 8,2 billion kWh (+ 2%), food and processing - 560,5 billion 1,9 million kWh (+ 1%) construction materials - 260,7 billion 1,1 million kWh (-2%), the other - 780,7 billion 1,9 million kWh (%).
              So where are you together with MK (the resource is so serious) tongue ) see the "growth rate"? Unless in minus ... By the way, the source is https://interfax.com.ua/news/economic/608267.html
              1. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 36 New
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                Quote: Tersky
                The growth rate of the economy is completely dependent on electricity consumption. Here is such an economic “recovery” for 7 months of 2019.

                Quote: Tersky
                The Ukrainian industry, excluding technological losses, reduced electricity consumption by 0,9% to 29,948 billion kWh. Including the metallurgical industry, it consumed 17,153 billion kWh (-0,9% versus January-July-2018), the fuel industry - 1 billion 995,7 million kWh (-3,3%), machine-building - 2 billion 210,5, 7,9 million kWh (-1,987%), chemical and petrochemical - 8,2 billion kWh (+ 2%), food and processing - 560,5 billion 1,9 million kWh (+ 1%) construction materials - 260,7 billion 1,1 million kWh (-2%), the other - 780,7 billion 1,9 million kWh (%).

                Victor, and decipher the data given - to me as a person in the subject, so to speak - nothing your data says.
                The decrease is miserable, where the increase is the same is not big.
                In general, the introduction of energy-saving technologies leads to lower energy consumption, while, of course, the profit increases.
                Where the climatic conditions are taken into account. Warm enough winter so that the changes would be even more significant


                Quote: Tersky
                So where do you see “growth rates” together with MK (a resource which is “serious”)?

                in general, according to your data, you can’t see anything at all.
                1. Tersky 6 January 2020 10: 04 New
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                  Quote: atalef
                  me as a person in the subject, so to speak - your data does not say anything.

                  What position do you occupy in this "topic"? If you are in the topic, you should know that the main reason for the drop in energy consumption is a reduction in industrial production. And that the drop in energy consumption is always less than the drop in production, since the enterprises remain to a large extent the so-called. household expenses (ventilation, water supply, lighting, even heating and air conditioning). And that technological specific electricity consumption per unit of output on underloaded, but still working equipment, is higher than usual. If you are of course in the "topic".
                  Quote: atalef
                  In general, the introduction of energy-saving technologies leads to lower energy consumption, while, of course, the profit increases.

                  Do not confuse soft with warm. Profit will remain in place, as the number of final products will not increase, costs will decrease.
      2. knn54 5 January 2020 10: 05 New
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        The trouble is that (a conversation with the deputy director of the Ukrainian design organization, they work with Russia and Kazakhstan), the Ukrainian nuclear power plants, which are being sought by American "fuel briquettes", have a resource left for 2..3 years of operation.
        And what is an economy without energy?
        1. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 38 New
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          Quote: knn54
          The trouble is that (a conversation with the deputy director of the Ukrainian design organization, they work with Russia and Kazakhstan), the Ukrainian nuclear power plants, sought by the American "fuel briquettes", have a resource left for 2..3 years

          Well, yes, another chatter.
          Resource of what?
          Reactors? steam lines? Turbines? Generators?
          Which reactors?
          chatter and nothing more.
          1. Tersky 6 January 2020 09: 34 New
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            Resource of what?

            The reactors of most Ukrainian nuclear power plants are surviving in recent years. Already in 2023-2025 the first power units will appear, which will work even after major repairs. All Ukrainian reactors are water-cooled VVER-440 and VVER-1000 type. The newest Ukrainian reactor began to be constructed in 1986, exactly 30 years ago. The warranty life of the VVER-1000 reactor vessel built in the 80s is 30 years.
            Quote: atalef
            chatter and nothing more.

            Chatter on you Sasha, hammer in google - "How many nuclear power units are closed in Ukraine" and you will be "happy." Literally on January 4 this year, an emergency shutdown of the 3rd unit of the South Ukrainian NPP occurred. The IAEA sanctions on Ukraine are only a matter of time.
      3. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 37 New
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        And sho Estonia, Latvia Lithuania still developing aki Outskirts? And from the dollar calculation a LOT! refused. Although many are sitting on this needle.
    2. Bar2 5 January 2020 09: 13 New
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      ukrov everyone crashing but sluggish but the bandera doesn’t fall in any way. Putin throws up some money, the states have weapons, they had to crash the nuclear power plants at American assemblies, but they’re holding on.
      Who is really bad in Ukraine is the Russian people. It becomes really bad for the people, but this non-Russian power is strong.
      1. Tersky 5 January 2020 09: 19 New
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        Quote: Bar2
        Putin throws some money

        Do not announce the account number and amount?
        1. Victoria-V 5 January 2020 09: 35 New
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          Are you kidding me ? Or are you an agent? 2.9 billion given a week ago?
          1. Tersky 5 January 2020 09: 38 New
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            Quote: Victoria-In
            Are you kidding me ?

            Not at all, Bar2 does it.
            Quote: Victoria-In
            Or are you an agent?

            I definitely don’t, but you are in doubt.
            Quote: Victoria-In
            2.9 billion given a week ago?

            Personally, Putin or is Gazprom for transit?
            1. Victoria-V 5 January 2020 09: 49 New
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              Do you have comments on the principle "Your ears and ears are cold"?
              1. Tersky 5 January 2020 09: 56 New
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                Quote: Victoria-In
                Do you have comments on the principle "Your ears and ears are cold"?

                laughing I can’t be familiar to, in the absence of arguments we turn to the individual. All? Did Victoria-B merge? Tip - for trolling, look for someone else yes
            2. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 40 New
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              Quote: Tersky
              Personally, Putin or is Gazprom for transit?

              actually, personally, Putin has nothing apart from an apartment, 2 21-volga and a Scythian trailer. belay
              But Gazprom, of course, is not Putin.
              This is when Gazprom has everything ok - then - Putin, but how - no --- no, Putin has nothing to do with it.
        2. Bar2 5 January 2020 11: 54 New
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          Quote: Tersky
          Quote: Bar2
          Putin throws some money

          Do not announce the account number and amount?

          Yes, everyone knows 3 billion were sued
          1. Tersky 5 January 2020 12: 16 New
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            Quote: Bar2
            Yes, everyone knows 3 billion were sued

            Have you read my previous comment carefully?
            1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 13 New
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              You have not written there yet about 3 lard greens that Putin managed to give the Ukrainians to the Maidan, exactly the New Year 2014.
              And how many weathercocks are here on the site:
              The scribe, how they screamed that Ukraine would be covered with a copper basin in 2015, and how many times they barked here, that Ukrainians would definitely not survive the next winter, they waited like heaven, that Ukraine would not have money in 2020, because gas transit will stop and Ukraine’s pipe will go to scrap, and now they have signed contracts for 5 years for gas and 10 years for oil, and again everyone yells "Hurray! then we will show!"
              They wouldn’t be dishonored all over the world, where is the guarantee that Russia will not owe Ukraine a coffin under the new contracts?
              Say rude, but banned.
              Weathervanes.
              1. Tersky 5 January 2020 17: 49 New
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                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Scribehow they screamed that Ukraine would be covered with a copper basin in 2015, and how many times yapping

                Are you in a dog shelter or on the VO site? Pick up words; in Russian there are plenty of other synonyms.
      2. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 39 New
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        As for non-Russian power, you are wrong. On the contrary, it is weakening. For without Vaseline .... and clever thought comes.
    3. Baloo 5 January 2020 09: 39 New
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      Quote: Victoria-In
      You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera. You open Military Review: the same thing.

      A fire is being stubbornly built under our fence, which can lead to a global catastrophe and large-scale problems for ourselves.
      1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 17 New
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        And why did the great "grandmaster of political chess" commit arson of our border? Where is his cunning plan? Where is his "magnificent" foreign policy? Moreover, the same fire is brewing from the side of Belarus.
    4. Tersky 5 January 2020 10: 10 New
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      Quote: Victoria-In
      You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera.

      Switch to the channel "Rain", there is just what you need
      Quote: Victoria-In
      You open Military Review: the same thing.

      Are you forced to do this? Not, no ? Is this your expression of will? If so, what could be the questions for VO?
      1. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 40 New
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        Yes, the channel Rain would have chosen EBN and would have handed over with giblets with a dancer.
    5. smart ass 5 January 2020 10: 14 New
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      What’s interesting to me is how can nightingales talk on the same topic for several years?
      1. The leader of the Redskins 5 January 2020 10: 29 New
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        "... And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ..."
        Everything is a classic. And if you google the early Solovyov, Kiselev, Norkin, then peering at the young faces and listening to the fact that "people hawala is not about them ...", you think about it. What did you guys break on? ....
        1. smart ass 5 January 2020 10: 31 New
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          Money and civil service broke the guys
        2. dauria 5 January 2020 13: 17 New
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          What did you guys break on? ....


          No one broke them. Try breaking the rubber hose. Here at the beginning of the two thousandth they broke NTV - yes, there was still a crack. After that, they unanimously realized "who cares who pays the money"
      2. orionvitt 5 January 2020 11: 34 New
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        Quote: Clever man
        how can nightingales on the same subject speak for several years?

        Because, the patient (Ukraine) is dying slowly. Strong is the Soviet backlog. But now the patient has already gone irreversible metastases and the process is accelerating. It seems to be still alive, and it seems to even move, and a piercing voice beeps, but getting up is no longer fate, not like walking. And more and more falls into insanity and dying nonsense. Which we are observing. And Solovyov, that, he simply states the facts. By the way, in his programs, he does not so weakly criticize internal Russian problems (the fifth column allows), without urging to destroy the state. If you have not noticed this.
        1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 20 New
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          Stop lying, you’ve been waiting for 5 years and promise everyone the end of the Ukrainians, but nevertheless:
          “The growth rate of the Ukrainian economy is higher than the Russian one. Moskovsky Komsomolets notes that the Ukrainian economy was ahead of the Russian one in terms of growth: in Russia, GDP growth in 2018 was 2,3 percent (according to Rosstat, Ukraine’s GDP growth in 2018 was 3,2, 41716174 percent. Https://finance.rambler.ru/economics/XNUMX/?utm_content=rfinance&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink "
          So what now, woe-patriots?
          1. orionvitt 5 January 2020 15: 03 New
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            Stop lying, have been waiting for 5 years and promise everyone the end of Ukrainians

            I from Ukraine somehow know better. And stop lying to you that everything is bad in Russia. You simply do not know what is bad, or have already forgotten. And if you are not many years old, then maybe you don’t remember. I wish you to live in Ukraine, so that your mouth is not opened once again, about who, where and how is lying.
          2. Vadim237 5 January 2020 16: 55 New
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            And this so-called economic growth is driven by handouts from the IMF. In what condition their economy can be judged by the railway fleet, most of the locomotives and wagons will soon turn 70 years old.
          3. Alex Justice 6 January 2020 09: 58 New
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            My relatives from Ivano-Frankivsk say that all enterprises do not work, that specialists abroad cannot even be found.
            Where is the rise of the economy?
    6. RUSS 5 January 2020 13: 36 New
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      Quote: Victoria-In
      You turn on the TV: there on all channels about the economy of Ukrobandera. You open Military Review: the same thing.

      Their year after year is the same: crash and collapse are predicted by Ukraine, haven’t you been tired of them for 6 years?
  2. kjhg 5 January 2020 08: 58 New
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    This figure has been singing this song since the 90s. With the existing support from Russia, Ukraine will not fall apart. To this end, Russia in 2014 had to completely break off relations, not recognize Poroshenko and implement an economic blockade. But the question again rested on the PIPE. So our business is the “pipe”, while everything rests against the PIPE.
    1. The leader of the Redskins 5 January 2020 10: 31 New
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      This person in Ukropia will never be forgiven for being (nominally) V. Stus’s lawyer and a godfather of GDP. And his speeches ... They are for us, and especially for those who do not watch the Ukrainian media.
  3. Pessimist22 5 January 2020 09: 00 New
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    Economically kill and take back their land in the southeast, the rest is on the balance sheet of the EU.
    1. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 45 New
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      Wrong expression "economically kill." This is to the Canal Rain. You are thinking people. Economic "education" (for those who are not prepared to read coercion). For only by comparison is TRUE known. And let them choose ala "Libya" or "Syria." And where is the statehood preserved?
  4. Mountain shooter 5 January 2020 09: 03 New
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    Many who played in MMM in the 90s knew that the pyramid could collapse at any moment, but HOPED that they would manage to jump out. And how will the whole country "pop up"? IMHO, through the default ...
    1. atalef 5 January 2020 09: 09 New
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      According to your media, Ukraine is buried daily for 5 years, there were already 1000 scripts,
      Not tired?
      Shl.
      The Ukrainian currency was significantly ahead of other world currencies, which demonstrate a revaluation in 2019.
      Since the beginning of the year, the Ukrainian hryvnia has strengthened against the dollar by 19%, which is the best indicator among world currencies, Bloomberg writes.
      1. Mountain shooter 5 January 2020 09: 21 New
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        Quote: atalef
        Not tired?
        Shl.

        Friends sent a video from Kiev. The streets turned into a "flea market" ... Prices continue to rise. And what about the people from the “strengthening” of the hryvnia?
        The Russian ruble also strengthened by 12% ... Only we have prices! And so, the pension is 20 thousand rubles. was at the beginning of 19 - $ 290 and at the beginning of 20 - they added 1200, and became - 340 ... A trifle, but nice.
        1. Mordvin 3 5 January 2020 10: 10 New
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          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Only we have prices!

          Have you been to the store for a long time? They are standing ... sad
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx

            Have you been to the store for a long time? They are standing ...

            Yesterday ... There was a small jump under NG, but this is on the market ... And so - the seasonal drift in prices for vegetables and fruits, so far no more ...
            1. Mordvin 3 5 January 2020 10: 27 New
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              Yesterday ... There was a small leap under NG, but this is on the market ...

              Me too - on the eve ... Oil, eggs are becoming more expensive again. And not in the market, in the store.
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                Me too - on the eve ... Oil, eggs are becoming more expensive again. And not in the market, in the store.

                Please provide the numbers. I will compare. And then there are eggs from several manufacturers, and oil at least 6 grades.
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                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Please provide the numbers.

                  Do you think I want to remember them? Already my head is spinning from these figures. I do not keep checks. How do you suggest me bring them? 51 eggs were the cheapest. There were 49, It was in the USSR for twenty years prices were.
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                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Please provide the numbers. I will compare. And then there are eggs from several manufacturers,

                  Just went. The cheapest eggs - 64 rubles. The cheapest oil is 81.


      2. Tersky 5 January 2020 09: 47 New
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        Quote: atalef
        According to your media, Ukraine is buried daily for 5 years,

        Just like in your Arabs, but with a much longer statute of limitations. Sasha, did you even understand from the article who voiced this forecast? And here is our media? Come back and re-read, sometimes it helps to rethink what was said before.
        1. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 44 New
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          Quote: Tersky
          Just like in your Arabs, but with a much longer statute of limitations.

          Yes, they don’t bury them and the transmission like Solovyov and others like him, we do not and cannot be a priori.
          Quote: Tersky
          Sasha, did you even understand from the article who voiced this forecast?

          Of course I realized - another expert who was torn from the trough in Ukraine
          Quote: Tersky
          And here is our media?

          And how do they differ from him? Only one - such a conclusion they first voiced about 5 years ago.
      3. askort154 5 January 2020 10: 11 New
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        atalef According to your media, Ukraine is buried daily for 5 years, there were already 1000 scripts,
        Not tired?



        And you are not tired of being "blind." Russia was "buried" for 20 years. The Anglo-Saxons were confident that the Russian Federation would continue to fall apart automatically after the collapse of the USSR. But they miscalculated, now they "bite their elbows." Russia not only did not fall apart, but increased sharply. And what is Ukraine over this period?
        The Civil War, with the loss of territories that were previously granted to it by the USSR. With such a political and economic distance from Russia, with which the whole economy was tied, the prospects for maintaining Ukrainian statehood will decrease every year. It is obvious.
        The EU economy of Ukraine will not burden on its shoulders, as was done for the Baltic countries. Artificially created Ukraine is doomed. yes hi
        1. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 50 New
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          Quote: askort154
          And you are not tired of being "blind." Russia "buried" 20 years

          did you watch the SNN and read the enemy media? Do you speak bourgeois?

          Quote: askort154
          The Anglo-Saxons were confident that the Russian Federation would continue to fall apart automatically after the collapse of the USSR.

          Were you sure of the hell?
          Quote: askort154
          Russia not only did not fall apart, but increased sharply.

          Well, for vertical and stability drinks
          Quote: askort154
          . And what is Ukraine over this period?

          Nothing, the standard of living in Ukraine is not much different from the Russian.
          They are worse, but not so dramatically.
          Quote: askort154
          The Civil War, with the loss of territories that were previously granted to it by the USSR.

          Well, in the first part - the merit of the elder brother, and in the second - learn the story about gifts.
          Quote: askort154
          With such a political and economic distance from Russia, with which the whole economy was tied, the prospects for maintaining Ukrainian statehood will decrease every year. It is obvious

          I heard about 5 years ago, Ukraine should have disappeared 3 years ago, and Novorossia ...
          And what about New Russia?
          Quote: askort154
          The EU economy of Ukraine will not burden on its shoulders, as was done for the Baltic countries. Artificially created Ukraine is doomed.

          Yes Yes
          The collapse of capitalism is inevitable, the next generation of Soviet citizens will live under communism.
          already heard somewhere.
      4. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 50 New
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        So, "non-blocking" does not lead to a rise. This is evident. They only continue to robbery deeper. We got to the land and transplantology (official prices already exist for organs).
    2. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 47 New
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      Firstly, the larger the region (country), the longer it falls (and deeper) then the longer it rises (lagging behind others).
      1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 25 New
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        And we in 1991, something fell very quickly. Although they were the largest country.
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          The legs are rotten. Colossus and could not resist. The Communists themselves destroyed their foundation.
    3. The leader of the Redskins 5 January 2020 13: 42 New
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      I am now out of Dill. At the father. Yesterday in Kiev was ... Send a video that there is no flea market? Everyone sees what he wants. You can go to the chamber of measures and skeptically notice that architecture is not a fountain, and the guard's face is not welcoming ... Neighbors live. Do not freeze and do not stand with outstretched hand. But I will not write an article about this - the editors will not like it ...
      1. Mountain shooter 5 January 2020 14: 18 New
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        Eh, the video is not inserted.
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        Send a video that there is no flea market

        I do not insert. Maybe you can do it somehow?
        1. The leader of the Redskins 5 January 2020 14: 45 New
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          Well, I did not shoot. But you believe, if tomorrow or when I take off? Do not believe it.
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            Well, I did not shoot. But you believe, if tomorrow or when I take off? Don't believe

            I’ll ask a friend to send a photo.
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          I do not insert. Maybe you can do it somehow?

          "Flea market on Petrovka. Flea market in Kiev 2019." "Flea market on St. Andrew's Descent. Kiev 2019"
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            I hope that the inhabitants of Kiev will not let you lie - Petrovka is a very large market complex, which includes the largest book market, second-hand and clothing. And St. Andrew's Descent is an analogue of our Arbat. Well, the fact that someone called them their flea markets ... So this is not correct and this is not all of Kiev!
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              Well, the fact that someone called them flea markets ...

              So the Kiyavlians themselves call them so ... I wouldn’t say that, but in the Kiev-Svyatoshensky district (Khotiv, near Novoselki 40 minutes from the Vladimirovsky market by an ordinary city route), the relatives of the ex-wife live (the connection between us is not broken) Well, to all this, the niece of her second wife lives the same in Kiev, has a small business that doesn’t, yes, and feeds precisely from these "heaps" So something like "a little" doesn’t work out your way ...
              1. The leader of the Redskins 5 January 2020 22: 30 New
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                No! ))) This is not your way out - following your logic, the European flea market is a hotbed of unsanitary conditions, not antiques!))) Ask relatives what Petrovka is and where they buy textbooks for children!
          2. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 57 New
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            Quote: Tersky
            Flea market on Petrovka. Flea market in Kiev 2019. "

            On the Andreevsky Descent, the trade in antiques, souvenirs, etc. probably still exists before my first visit to Kiev, and that was in 1997.
            So, ordinary souvenir and antique shops, no different from the like in St. Petersburg, Moscow or Stockholm.
            such videos can be filmed in any country.
            It all depends on how to file.
            Andrew's Descent

            and so what ?
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            We have many such markets in Melbourne.
      2. atalef 5 January 2020 21: 52 New
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I am now out of Dill. At the father. Yesterday in Kiev was ... Send a video that there is no flea market? Everyone sees what he wants. You can go to the chamber of measures and skeptically notice that architecture is not a fountain, and the guard's face is not welcoming ... Neighbors live. Do not freeze and do not stand with outstretched hand. But I will not write an article about this - the editors will not like it ...

        who will believe you?
        I was in Lviv last year.
        Natsik did not go, he spoke Russian everywhere.
        Great service, calm, prices below the skirting board.
        Only who will believe.
        1. Tersky 6 January 2020 10: 18 New
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          Quote: atalef
          Natsik did not go, he spoke Russian everywhere.

          Quote: atalef
          Only who will believe.
          Well, of course, who will believe .... ukranews.com
          "About 600 people held a rally on January 1 on the occasion of the birthday of the leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) in the XNUMXth century, Stepan Bandera in Lviv" request And this is also unlikely to be believed ....
      3. Alex Nevs 6 January 2020 10: 18 New
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        And you have to write. All that is visible is nado. And everyone can compare levels. And if anything, the cameras will show online. But even so it’s not very clear! Very not so!
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      Because Gazprom has dozens of State Department agents. It is good that they agreed not 10 billion, but only 2.9 ...
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      2. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 51 New
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        Not true about agents. It seems so. Here the moves are far ahead recorded.
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  6. alavrin 5 January 2020 09: 10 New
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    You can scam eight hours a day on three channels about the death of Ukraine, but in fact, unpleasant, for example, for me, the minimum level of wages in Ukraine from January 1 has become higher than in Russia and Belarus. This is once again the issue of redistributing income from natural rents. How many dollar billionaires do we have there?
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      Can not be. And what are the numbers?
      1. alavrin 5 January 2020 09: 14 New
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        According to the decree of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, the minimum wage in the Russian Federation from January 1, 2020 was increased to 12130 rubles ($ 196 at the exchange rate).
        The minimum wage in Belarus has been raised to 375 Belarusian rubles ($ 178).
        At the same time, in Ukraine, the minimum salary for 2020 was set by the government at the level of 4723 hryvnias ($ 199 at the exchange rate). For the first time since the year 91, one of the indicators of social payments in Ukraine overtook similar payments in the Russian Federation.
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          For the first time since the year 91, one of the indicators of social payments in Ukraine overtook similar payments in the Russian Federation.


          These are not payments, this is the bar ... in fact, the numbers are different, and here they are not very encouraging either.
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          Quote: alavrin
          4723 hryvnias (199 dollars at the exchange rate)

          The main thing is not how many dollars you can buy for these hryvnias, but how much grub, clothes and utilities.
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          For the first time since the year 91, one of the indicators of social payments in Ukraine overtook similar payments in the Russian Federation.

          Only at what price - for 2019, the hryvnia has strengthened against the dollar by 16,5%. Of the latter, Bloomberg: A strengthened hryvnia creates a budget headache for Ukraine. And with such strengthening, hello to exporters. There is an opinion that the decline in industrial production in Ukraine (the decline in industrial production in November compared to November of the previous year accelerated to 7,5%) is also due to the hryvnia strengthening .... we will see
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      1. Victoria-V 5 January 2020 09: 28 New
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        And here is Russophobia? At the expense of the minimum wage figures?
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    3. Tersky 5 January 2020 09: 44 New
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      the minimum wage in Ukraine since January 1 has become higher than in Russia and Belarus

      Gordon will not tell you that either. You will share this with my brother-in-law and daughter-in-law living in the Golaya pier of the Kherson region, just before they answer, cover your ears with your hands ...
      1. alavrin 5 January 2020 10: 29 New
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        And here Gordon. I took this from Russian sources and not from a new newspaper and the like. And about the ears ... - in my regional, I emphasize, city, 300 km from Moscow, the sellers are invited to work full-time - 17 thousand rubles. per month, workers - 18-20 thousand. This is in 2020. Half of the city is in Moscow. Let me remind you that in 2018, oil production amounted to 560 million tons. The absolute record. I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of being taught to love my homeland by propagandists with a salary of 1-2 million per month.
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          Quote: alavrin
          in my regional, I emphasize, city, 300 km from Moscow, they are inviting full-time sellers to work - 17 thousand rubles. per month,

          You can invite for 3 thousand, the question is whether I agree or not. Do not forget about the "gray" salary.
          Quote: alavrin
          Half of the city is in Moscow.

          There is half of Russia.
          Quote: alavrin
          Let me remind you that in 2018, oil production amounted to 560 million tons. The absolute record.

          Do you work in the field of oil production or refining? No? Then what does oil have to do with your salary?
          1. alavrin 5 January 2020 12: 28 New
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            1. Invite and work, even for less money. But these are people from the surrounding areas in the area. Work for 16-18-20. As for the gray salary, these illusions will disappear after your first contact with the tax authorities. It took place in the 90s, a little more problematic in the 0s and much more dangerous now.
            + In addition, it is dirty, there is also a system of fines, as well as, I agree, and rewards. But, as an example, until June last year, TTP drivers in our regional city received 12 thousand (!), They only got 1,5. with weekends and 20 shifts. After the intervention of the council, they were only raised to 17-18 at the end of the year.
            2. Half of Russia, yes. And is that normal? In that TTP, there is a shortage of drivers, all the young people left - is this the progressive development of the regions, or what is it called there? Only two enterprises are operating normally, and the list of plundered and plundered allied values ​​is more than ten, some of which went bankrupt just a couple of years ago.
            3. I have, I have. As a citizen of this country. In Norway, Saudi Arabia, and earlier in Libya (before the collapse), any citizen (filed) (I now take only a few examples of oil-producing countries) had and has the right to natural rent. And this is not only 10 thousand dollars to a personal account from the day of birth, as in Saudi Arabia, but also free housing, insurance and not a salary of $ 200 per month! I also recommend that you look at the Gini coefficient - the difference in income is 10% of the poorest and richest. So in Russia it is the highest in Europe! And again, our problems are glossed over to us by Ukraine.
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              Quote: alavrin
              After the intervention of the council, they were only raised to 17-18 at the end of the year.

              And the union is pocket-sized.
              Quote: alavrin
              And is that normal? In that TTP, there is a shortage of drivers, all the young people left - is this the progressive development of the regions, or what is it called there?

              The governors are responsible for the regions, it is clear that money is flowing to Moscow, but they also flow from there. But how they are spent locally is a question.
              Quote: alavrin
              I have, I have. As a citizen of this country. In Norway, Saudi Arabia, and earlier in Libya (before the collapse), any citizen (filed) (I now take only a few examples of oil-producing countries) had and has the right to natural rent.

              Brezhnev L.I. didn’t try to ask the same question?
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                And under Brezhnev, free housing was being built, I’m not talking about housing and communal services at all, or there are gas prices .. Yes, there were some problems and considerable ones, but the Russian population was growing, but not decreasing, and this is the main criterion for me. Regarding the money that flows in and out - get acquainted with the number of donor regions and their dynamics in Russia. As a criterion for the effectiveness of current economic policies.
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                  And under Brezhnev, free housing was being built, I’m not talking about housing and communal services at all, or are there gas prices ..

                  You want to say that the country's budget was filled only with taxes? All of this “free” is just oil, gas, timber. etc. etc.
                  Quote: alavrin
                  Regarding the money that flows in and out - get acquainted with the number of donor regions and their dynamics in Russia.

                  The sign is no worse and no better than yours, I have not forgotten how to read. Only once you forgot about the 15 union republics, and who was their donor.
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                  . Yes, there were problems and considerable ones, but the population of Russia grew, but not decreased

                  Again, mainly due to the Central Asian republics. And there were no problems less than now. Believe me, as a deputy of three convocations, two of which were worked out in the commission on housing and communal services, and one - trade. And then do not sculpt minus in vain, to me they are somehow exactly ....
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                    I’m not minus you, not before that, because you are taking the discussion itself to a different plane. I am talking about the current economic situation, the current donor regions and not about the Brezhnev era. And to finish: look at the demographic statistics for those years - the population grew in all republics, including in the RSFSR. To a lesser extent than in Central Asia, but grew. Moreover, in recent years, before perestroika, the pace even increased slightly, namely in the RSFSR. On this I take my leave.
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                      Now look at the number of abortions in the RSFSR in relation to those born - this is generally fierce trash. In the last year of abortion in Russia, there were 450000; their number is decreasing every year; in fact, there is a reserve to reverse mortality.
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      Again, you mean the "average temperature in the hospital."
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    In the final part of the article, Medvedchuk predicted the possibility of a “complete collapse of the country”


    There has never been such a state of Ukraine and apparently will not ...
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      1. Alex Nevs 5 January 2020 10: 55 New
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        Future plans for the whole outskirts. And there, as it turns out, maybe even cut the bigger shmat (most likely). And the caches themselves will leave.
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    "Deepening the systemic crisis" of the economy
    and the collapse is still different things ... Iran is now heard
    Tehran, December 23, IRNA - The World Steel Association, in its latest report, reported a 5,3% increase in steel production in Iran compared to the same period last year. The average growth in steel production in the world is 2,7%. The growth in steel production in Iran is twice the global growth.
    The World Steel Association has called Iran's steel production for 11 months of 2019 23 million 648 thousand tons. In 2018, Iran's steel production amounted to 22 million 452 thousand tons. Iran ranks 10th among world steel producers. The country could become the 7th largest steel producer in the world in 2021, reaching a production capacity of 55 million tons of steel.
    Sanctions, of course, they are sanctions, but only in 2013 Ukraine was in 7th place, according to the World Steel Association. In November, Ukraine fell to 15th place in the list of world steel producers. - Association of metallurgical companies "Ukrmetalprom" - "This is the worst indicator for the entire period of existence of independent Ukraine."
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      Hooray, Ukraine dropped to 15th place, nice, this is a joy for all Russians. Now we can sleep peacefully, we are not alone in the pope.
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  10. Snail N9 5 January 2020 09: 49 New
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    Well, finally, the next “how bad in Ukraine”, how soon it will “crash, go bankrupt, go bankrupt, will be sold out, etc.” ....., before that, they added - it’ll freeze, now they don’t add, it’s strange, really ? wink Yes, don’t forget to remind us of “how bad it is in Ukraine” to shade the “successes” (precisely in quotation marks) of Russia against its background ... yes
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    Viktor Medvedchuk predicted the country further "deepening the systemic crisis" of the economy due to the "inadequacy of the government."

    I understand that he said this about Russia. Well, rightly said.
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    Medvedchuk called for the creation of a "government of national salvation," he turns out to be a liquid-fascist Bandera wants to save Ukraine. True, maybe this hpp Medvedchuk will head the government of "national salvation" and destroy Ukraine.
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    the possibility of a "complete collapse of the country" while continuing the current course and called for the creation of a "government of national salvation."

    Well, then don’t go to the grandmother, everything goes .... Half of the population in Russia at the wages, the other part in Poland washes dishes and toilets ..
    The smallest Bandera workers do not want to work .. They are shelling the Donbass! Well, the Jews, whose units in power are doing quietly things .. Glory to the outskirts, as they say laughing
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      In the Russian Federation on earnings ... and in the west in dishes and in pots, the difference is what after all. laughing
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        In the Russian Federation on earnings ... and in the west in dishes and in pots, the difference is what after all. laughing

        And then they are already being driven there with a broom, they are yelling too much .. And in Russia we are silent and working, as expected. hi
  14. Snigir 5 January 2020 10: 40 New
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    Every year, television (newspapers, the Internet) reported a “complete collapse” of the economy in Ukraine, but in 2020 I will finally wait for a “complete collapse of the economy” am
    1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 49 New
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      Yes, we have been told 631 times that Ukraine will collapse, and this time this is the latest and most true prediction.
  15. Victor March 47 5 January 2020 11: 19 New
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    Are you kidding me ? Or are you an agent? 2.9 billion given a week ago?

    Do not chat. Study the history of the award of a monetary fine of Russia by the Stockholm court. And rejoice at the sentence- "In connection with the difficult situation of Ukraine, to award ..." We did not rest, because the appeal was decided in our favor, and agreed to reassure the recipients. This opened up the possibility of resuming transit, and gave time for the completion of Nord Stream 2. A transit gap would threaten Russia with much greater losses from European countries. not received gas under previously concluded contracts.
    There is Russian gas in the Ukrainian pipe, and Turkish gas in the Turkish one. There are other conditions for pumping gas. Erdogan buys ALL gas in the pipe, and then it is up to him, to whom, how, and at what price ..... There were other relations with Ukraine earlier. Hence the different transit conditions.
    The decrease in transit in the first months of the year is also a good lever, a threat to Europeans, and a way to put pressure on ukrov. Gas volumes are considered for a year. And now we have the opportunity to give so much that there is no accident. Minimum minimorum. Almost zero. And let the “partners” rehearse their mood in winter.
    1. Fan-fan 5 January 2020 13: 53 New
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      Here is another explanation, that a fine of 3 lard is good for the people of Russia, that they say thank God that they didn’t "shame" us for a large amount. Moreover, the fact that they "shod" us explained the kins are silent, but they colorfully describe to us all the benefits of this shoe.
  16. Zomanus 5 January 2020 11: 41 New
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    Yes, all do not care for this Ukraine.
    When was the last time she was predicted to crash there?
    It seems right this year, right after the cessation of gas transit, right?
    And before that, she is predicted to collapse once a quarter.
    And somehow, there’s still no crash.
    Yes, the country is sinking, sinking specifically.
    So this is due to the loss of the Russian market and difficulties in finding new markets.
    But they will find markets and begin to live on.
    But the collapse just do not have to wait.
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      It is an agricultural country, like Bulgaria or Romania. It’s sad.
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      More specifically about the "find markets" is possible? It seems they’ve already found “sent horses”.
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    generally threaten the country with default by 2020.

    In fact, a default on the outskirts happened when she refused to pay 3 yards for her obligations to Russia. That's just the "world community" prefers not to notice. It will not notice the following defaults.
  18. Pavel Burtovoy 5 January 2020 12: 18 New
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    About https://ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (Vladimir_Putin, _2012-2018) .... Most of these are either investment projects of foreign companies (foreign technology, income from the Russian Federation), or the construction of 3% commercial projects for the export of resources (here construction of infrastructure for export), or any kind of cockerel like stadiums (0 new football ones have already been held, the foundation is of poor quality). East already only lazy did not make out. During its construction, the USSR brought the satellite and man into space from 3. There is a lot about the fleet: 2 were written off, one was introduced (piece production, 3 series are not series) - this is happening now. Do not look for flaws. They are already visible with the naked eye. And if the reconstruction of a coal-fired thermal power plant is entered on the site of achievements along with nuclear power plants, this is called: everything in one heap, if only the list was longer. The government of the Russian Federation learned to PR better than many. I would record this as an achievement (and again, using all the latest developments of Western and Eastern corporations). Thanks to all.
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    You do not need to be a politician to generate such "predictions." Where will the Russian economy be at this time?
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      At least a much better condition than the Ukrainian, as the latter is increasingly drowning in debt to the IMF.
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    And that Ukrainians have an economy?
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    "The head of the Political Council of the Ukrainian party" Opposition Platform - For Life "Viktor Medvedchuk predicted the country further" deepening the systemic crisis "of the economy due to the" inadequacy of the government. "" - We are waiting! Rather, this misunderstanding would have fallen into logical regional components. And if you had spent federalization instead of the Maidan and the law on Ukraine, everything would have gone fine.
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    On the territory of the USSR, it has long been destroyed in all the former republics of humpback, ebn, gdp.