Belated response. What do the Poles think of the official Warsaw’s reaction to Putin’s criticism

Belated response. What do the Poles think of the official Warsaw’s reaction to Putin’s criticism

In the last days of 2019, Russian President V. Putin criticized the policies of the authorities of the Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth on the eve of World War II and even used the expression "anti-Semitic pig" to the then ambassador of Warsaw in Berlin. Putin also reminded Poland of the division of Czechoslovakia, recalls a large edition of Rzeczpospolita.


The words of Putin, among others, were answered by the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravecki. Briefly his answer: in his lengthy written statement published in three languages ​​(Polish, English and Russian), Pan Moravecki indicated that “President Putin has lied about Poland many times,” and he did it “deliberately”. And usually, according to the prime minister, this happens when Russia "feels international pressure associated with its actions."

How did the Poles appreciate this noisy reaction of the Polish authorities to Putin's statements?

The latest issue of the newspaper Rzeczpospolita contains the data from a SW Research opinion poll on this topic.

The survey results showed the following. A total of 53,5 percent of respondents rated the statement by the authorities positively. True, 28,4% of respondents, despite a positive assessment of the reaction of the authorities, believe that the latter reacted to Putin’s words belatedly.

25,3% rated the reaction of the Polish authorities to Putin’s words negatively.

21,3 percent of respondents have no opinion on this issue.

A positive opinion (the sum of all positive answers, including those in which respondents indicated a delay in the reaction) was more often expressed by men (about 60%).

The proportion of people who rated the government response well increases with the age of the respondents.

Comments of some Polish experts are also known.

According to the former Minister of National Defense of Poland Anthony Matserevich, Vladimir Putin "tried and is trying to completely undermine the great Polish tradition and all the great Polish achievements." Why is he “attacking” Poland? Where did it come from? The answer, Pan Matserevich believes, is "very simple": after all

"The Polish nation was the only nation that at the dawn of World War II opposed both great powers and both great totalitarianisms: Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany."

The former minister also emphasized that the Polish people

"He made huge sacrifices" to save the Jews, while President Putin is trying to accuse us of the Holocaust and World War II. "

According to Matserevich, Putin’s “attack” is associated with an attempt to strip Poland and the Poles of great merit.

The ex-minister also noted that present-day Poland is strong and plays an important role "all over the world", and this "is the result of the enormous efforts of the Polish people."
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  1. Severok 4 January 2020 17: 53 New
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    Apparently, the teaching of history is extremely politicized in Poland, however, as in modern oligarchic Russia.
    1. SNEAKY 4 January 2020 17: 59 New
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      After the “work” in Poland, even the most stubborn anti-Putinists spit. I, like their neighbor, would write war on them in order to refresh bad people. It’s true that there’s not enough to beat everyone with their heads drinks
      1. The Siberian barber 4 January 2020 18: 34 New
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        What did not please the simple Poles? I also live in the neighborhood. I have friends (though the older generation) had business relations with others. Quite normal people, as elsewhere. Well, maybe there is a specificity, but who doesn’t have it?)
        There are enough freaks everywhere, and I'm afraid the number is multiplying everywhere. .... and politics is not determined by ordinary people,
        1. SNEAKY 4 January 2020 18: 44 New
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          Yes, no matter how you like any nation, there is a beauty everywhere) Well, the fact that Belarusians are true for them, even though they distributed cards of the Pole 1/5/6.
        2. sergo1914 4 January 2020 19: 02 New
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          Quote: Siberian barber
          What did not please the simple Poles? I also live in the neighborhood. I have friends (though the older generation) had business relations with others. Quite normal people, as elsewhere. Well, maybe there is a specificity, but who doesn’t have it?)
          There are enough freaks everywhere, and I'm afraid the number is multiplying everywhere. .... and politics is not determined by ordinary people,


          He also worked with the Poles. There are friends too. One just got ... stubborn. But he sat on the pope smoothly. Did not escalate.
          PS I came there to work at the end of November. And they drove off to Kamchatka on their Christmas day. At the very peak. Oh, I ... got worried.
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          1. Simon 4 January 2020 22: 23 New
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            But how in Ukraine did you get power ?! Everywhere, Washington’s big paw is visible. One template done. fool
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              1. The Siberian barber 5 January 2020 18: 04 New
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                . life has stabilized, and no one wants the nineties, and therefore Zyuganov has no support.

                Controversial, quite! In the sense that Zyuganov discriminated against himself as a real opposition. So ... a decorative figure, on a polished political field
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                  1. The Siberian barber 5 January 2020 23: 00 New
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                    .He is at least some kind of, but real opposition, and the rest of the parties are simply slabs in power

                    Rather, the appearance of the opposition)
                    Otherwise, I completely agree with you hi
              2. Siberian54 6 January 2020 11: 33 New
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                Zyugan is not red, a little pink, so he has no chance whatsoever, only "decorative opposition."
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          1. Dron_sk 5 January 2020 04: 09 New
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            and what does schoolchildren do in Poland on September 1? it became already interesting
            1. d1975 5 January 2020 11: 06 New
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              Kum was there on September 1, the schoolchildren were brainwashed, taken to a lecture hall, and they would definitely show and prepare to hate us. This is government policy. They don’t even remember the Germans, but they "love us!" I would write to you more precisely, but the admin will ban, I have already begun.
        5. orionvitt 5 January 2020 08: 00 New
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          Quote: Siberian barber
          What did not please the simple Poles?

          The same as, for example, ordinary Ukrainians. There were people like people, and suddenly turned into stubborn inadequacies. Not all of course, but through one for sure. And rightly, the younger, the more "Russophobic."
          "The Polish nation was the only nation that at the dawn of World War II opposed both great powers and both great totalitarianisms: Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany."
          And this is generally a joke. Well, that the Poles always did not like Russian (for there were beats more than once and there was a reason). But to the Germans, they were always treated with reverence. And how interesting is it, they confronted? With some Czechoslovakia, they were dribbling, and against the latter, they were afraid to raise the tail, they only barked.
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        7. Chingachguk 5 January 2020 09: 57 New
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          I agree that there are enough freaks everywhere. But for some reason, in many European countries, they become leaders. And for some reason, before the election, their policy towards Russia is the opposite of the one they elect after their election to power. And the longer they stay at the helm, the greater the absurdity they begin to bear, clogging the brain of their population, nonsense. Or do you also disagree with Putin’s statement? Maybe he relied on the "left" documents? Maybe lied? How do you think?
        8. Cyrus 8 January 2020 07: 45 New
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          And there are no ordinary Poles, Germans, Russians, Ukrainians, etc. there are hostile or friendly states, this is why we must dance.
          And these "simple Poles" will cut us off on occasion as well as not difficult ones.
      2. Sergey79 6 January 2020 09: 47 New
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        Perhaps you will go to war? Or would you rather watch “war” on TV? Ask any military man, or rather their family. Do they want war?
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    2. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 10 New
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      Where is the teaching of history in Russia politicized now? belay
      1. Severok 4 January 2020 18: 41 New
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        See the Recent History textbook. Compare with what was taught to us. Compare with what you know now.
        1. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 47 New
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          We were taught a censored history and strictly with the line of party policy. Now, looking at the history textbook, I find only that it is more likely for the mentally retarded. But I don’t find any clear line of politicization.
          1. Severok 4 January 2020 18: 51 New
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            Fine. How much in recent history has been devoted to the Great Patriotic War? How much is given to the achievements of the USSR in the post-war period? At least a quarter of the textbook is given ??? I remember I had two textbooks of recent history, the first and second part. There was a lot about the Great Patriotic War there - both Stalingrad with the Battle of Kursk, and the battle for Moscow, the liberation of Crimea and Belarus were considered. Well, in the First World War there was not much, yes.
            1. Kleber 4 January 2020 19: 02 New
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              Little given. But I am explaining this to you that I have simplified to moronism. But what is politicized?
              1. Shuttle 4 January 2020 21: 11 New
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                Quote: Kleber
                Little given. But I am explaining this to you that I have simplified to moronism. But what is politicized?

                It is in the reduction and diminution of the role of the USSR in the history of Russia that there is politicization. Now they are just silent about those who are alive who can actively resist outright lies about the USSR. And over time, you can t.s. give in to the gas. After all, now shkolotu such as Dud and Venediktov come with a bang. And over time, they will also be announced as singers of Russian history, or even great researchers.
                1. Kleber 4 January 2020 21: 20 New
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                  Quote: Shuttle
                  It is in the reduction and diminution of the role of the USSR in the history of Russia that there is politicization.


                  One story chtol reduced? In what subject do not spit - the same picture.
                2. Mephody 4 January 2020 22: 24 New
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                  Paradox. With all this, the people wake up nostalgia for the USSR and the rating of Stalin rises. How one is linked to the other is not entirely clear.
                  1. Shuttle 5 January 2020 10: 44 New
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                    Quote: Mephody
                    Paradox. With all this, the people wake up nostalgia for the USSR and the rating of Stalin rises. How one is linked to the other is not entirely clear.

                    While the witnesses of this story are alive, it will not be possible to call white black without a border.
              2. Krasnoyarsk 4 January 2020 21: 58 New
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                Quote: Kleber
                But I am explaining this to you that I have simplified to moronism.

                This is precisely what politicization is all about.
                1. Kleber 4 January 2020 22: 00 New
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                  Well then, it turns out that mathematics, chemistry, geography, etc., were politicized ... since they were also simplified to moronity.
                  1. Krasnoyarsk 4 January 2020 23: 11 New
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                    Quote: Kleber
                    Well then, it turns out that mathematics, chemistry, geography, etc., were politicized ... since they were also simplified to moronity.

                    I would not say that. For the sake of interest, I looked at math assignments for the exam. Normal tasks. Here is the attitude of teachers towards students has changed. When I studied, for those who did not have time to master the material, there were extracurricular activities. Teachers studied with them after class. Is this possible now? Do not have time? - Your problems. Want to know? - Hire a tutor. Something like this.
                  2. Shuttle 5 January 2020 19: 54 New
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                    Quote: Kleber
                    Well then, it turns out that mathematics, chemistry, geography, etc., were politicized ... since they were also simplified to moronity.

                    Yes exactly. In the country there is a social stratification actually based on property qualifications. There are funds for a paid elite education - there is no illusory opportunity to receive it. No money - get your "free" consumption minimum for proles and be very grateful. I exaggerate, but not so much. After all, the difference in the approach to educating young people in society is completely obvious. Despite all his costs and shortcomings, Scoop tried to somehow reach everyone to a certain average level and give approximately equal opportunities to get a higher education for the whole mass of the population based on the selection of candidates on the basis of personal abilities and talents, and not the income of the guardians-parents. Now, yes, Harvard and Oxford are available to some, Pleshka and Kerosinka are available to some, and someone barely has enough money for a local vocational school, ugh, college.
              3. Stas157 4 January 2020 23: 32 New
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                Quote: Kleber
                What is politicized?

                The son of a schoolboy says that a young teacher tells how terrible it was under Stalin, how bad it was in the USSR and how Putin became very good now. The whole class, they say, agrees with this, of course. They also study religion (different) at school, despite the fact that we have a secular state. Moreover, in a positive way. It seems like they are pushing ... to opium for the people.
          2. Proton 4 January 2020 19: 02 New
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            Right now, most textbooks for MA, and it seems that they are written by them. wassat
            1. Kleber 4 January 2020 19: 12 New
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              Not excluded)))
      2. Doliva63 4 January 2020 18: 43 New
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        Quote: Kleber
        Where is the teaching of history in Russia politicized now? belay

        At school. True, I don’t know, but when my daughter went to school (2011 onwards), it was like that. I don’t think something has changed.
        1. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 53 New
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          My younger one goes to school, the textbook looked - I didn’t see politicization, I saw simplification to moronity.
      3. aiden 4 January 2020 19: 53 New
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        Of course it’s politicized, because textbooks are not issued by the Soros Foundation
        1. Kleber 4 January 2020 20: 22 New
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          Those. did the Soros Foundation issue non-politicized textbooks a dozen years ago? laughing
          1. aiden 4 January 2020 21: 53 New
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            It seems you are not familiar with the concept of sarcasm
            1. Kleber 4 January 2020 21: 54 New
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              Sign. If it was sarcasm, then I apologize.
    3. figwam 4 January 2020 18: 17 New
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      Vladimir Putin "tried and is trying to completely undermine the great Polish tradition and all the great Polish achievements."

      These Sumerians are even more noisy than the previous ones)
    4. Prisoner 4 January 2020 20: 09 New
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      Do you know countries where history teaching is not politicized?
    5. Astronaut 4 January 2020 20: 44 New
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      Apparently, the teaching of history is extremely politicized in Poland, however, as in modern oligarchic Russia.

      Oh child, small, unreasonable! Do not judge by yourself. Most of those present studied history in the USSR!
      1. Den717 4 January 2020 22: 08 New
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        Yeah. Therefore, you see, they really can tell their children plainly. And today the school is in the hands of students of pedagogical universities of the 90s. Teaching history is such that if in the graduation class at least one is passionate about the subject, then a lot !!! After such training, there is no chance to enter the humanitarian direction on the budget even with a gold medal. From the word "completely."
        1. Cutter 5 January 2020 01: 21 New
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          [/ quote] "The Polish nation was the only nation that at the dawn of World War II opposed both great powers and both great totalitarianism: Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany." [/ Quote]
          And while having fun, she participated in the Czech section! The poles are amazing to get out of their way!
    6. businessv 4 January 2020 23: 39 New
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      Quote: Severok
      Apparently, the teaching of history is extremely politicized in Poland, however, as in modern oligarchic Russia.

      Learn a story, colleague and you will be happy! The fact is that Poland cannot be an independent state, they have proved it many times with their stupid antics to their neighbors, as a result of which they became the outskirts of the country, towards which they took aggressive actions. They were also Russia. In this regard, they have developed a permanent inferiority complex, which they again, over and over again, try to drown out with their stupid antics and Greater Poland chauvinism. Sick people, God bless them.
      1. maidan.izrailovich 5 January 2020 03: 45 New
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        .... Poland can not be an independent state ....

        Gold words. good
        Well, and in the whole text, everything is correctly stated.
    7. maidan.izrailovich 5 January 2020 03: 41 New
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      .... the teaching of history is highly politicized ...

      Name at least one country where history teaching is not politicized to one degree or another?
      In the USA, for example, ordinary Americans have no idea about Alexei Gagarin. And that this Russian guy was the first in space.
      1. Andrey VOV 5 January 2020 06: 39 New
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        I also do not know such an astronaut Alexei Gagarin ........
        1. maidan.izrailovich 5 January 2020 07: 56 New
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          I also do not know such an astronaut Alexei Gagarin ........

          Yes, to blame .... in a hurry ... a slip came out.
          Of course Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin.
  2. Finches 4 January 2020 17: 53 New
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    All the “sluggish” merits of Poland in World War II are the shock work in the Auschwitz crematoriums by the Nazis!
    1. cniza 4 January 2020 18: 00 New
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      Well, the female half did a good job ...
      1. rich 4 January 2020 18: 20 New
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        The former Polish minister also emphasized that the Polish people “made huge sacrifices“ for the salvation of the Jews ”.

        Probably together with good Hungarians yes But Finns and Bulgarians - these were the main criminals. It was necessary to slide down - these "anti-Semitic pigs" Manerheim and Tsar Boris flatly refused to extradite their Jews to humane Hitler fool
        In general, rewriting history is in full swing
        1. tihonmarine 4 January 2020 18: 57 New
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          Quote: Rich
          Manerheim and Tsar Boris flatly refused to extradite their Jews to humane Hitler

          You correctly said Man and Boris were the rulers of their states. And where was the Polish government at that time?
        2. Gennady Fomkin 4 January 2020 20: 42 New
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          Question. Continue your testimony. What other instructions from the German government did you carry out in Bulgaria?

          Answer: In the spring of 1942, according to a telegraphic order from Berlin, I demanded that the Bulgarian government, through Minister Popov, declare war on England and America in accordance with his obligation (accession to the pact of the three powers) 3. The Bulgarian government has announced that Bulgaria is at war with England and America.

          In May 1943, I received an order from Berlin to organize an anti-Comintern exhibition in Sofia with the aim of inciting hatred among the Bulgarians towards the Soviet Union and its leaders. After discussing this issue with the Minister of the Interior Gabrovsky, a committee was created to organize this exhibition. From the outside, it was like a matter of the Bulgarian government, in fact, we Germans did everything under my personal guidance. The exhibition functioned for about 6 weeks.

          In August 1944, at the request from Berlin, I expressed a sharp protest to the Bulgarian government in the person of regents Filov, Mikhov, Minister Draganov with the threat of using armed force against his detention of trains with Russian prisoners of war and civilians traveling through Bulgaria to Germany. As a result of my intervention, the trains eased unhindered to their destination.

          On the instructions of Himmler, which I received by telegraph, I, together with the German Government Commissioner for Jewish Affairs, Danneker * 7, through the Minister Gabrovsky, managed to evict Jews (14-15 thousand people) from Macedonia and Thrace, who, according to my request, were sent to Poland. Their further fate is unknown to me. (Protocol of interrogation of the Obergruppenführer) SA A. Beckerle. March 23, 1945

          Hide Details
          Theme: World War II
          Direction: International Relations
          Document Type: Judicial and Investigative Materials
          State: USSR
          Dating: 1945.03.25
          Period: 1940-1945
          Source: Secrets of the diplomacy of the Third Reich. 1944-1955. M .: International Fund "Democracy", 2011. p. 46-54.
          Archive: CA FSB of Russia. H-20808. L. 34-44. Script. Typescript. Autograph.
    2. 210ox 4 January 2020 18: 07 New
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      A nation of hyenas, however. However, I do not care about their sociology.
      1. Mountain shooter 4 January 2020 18: 40 New
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        The story of the uprising in the Jewish ghetto is particularly worthwhile. In the middle of the city, people were killed. Around the trams go, people do their own thing. Why did the Jews not run away from the ghetto? And who held the periphery of the ghetto before the uprising? Really the Germans? Or the Polish police?
        1. AU Ivanov. 4 January 2020 21: 07 New
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          In fairness: the ghetto had its own police, Jewish. On the principle of "you die today, and I - tomorrow" But the Poles had a hand in extermination of the Jews and not weak.
          1. Mountain shooter 4 January 2020 21: 48 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            the ghetto had its own Jewish police

            She allowed people to quietly cross the border and get into the city to earn money. And the Polish police were OUTSIDE! And she caught, and beat, and took away what she earned. Full of evidence of this.
      2. NEXUS 4 January 2020 21: 09 New
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        Quote: 210ox
        A nation of hyenas, however. However, I do not care about their sociology.

        "Let the Poles govern themselves, and they will destroy themselves." Otto von Bismarck.
    3. Tersky 4 January 2020 18: 24 New
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      Quote: Finches
      All the “sluggish” merits of Poland in World War II

      Their "merit" and before the Second World War a dime a dozen. As soon as this state appeared under the Second Rzeczpospolita brand, the Polish dictator Jozef Pilsudski attacked Soviet Russia devastated by civil war and intervention, seizing in the east part of its territories - Western Ukraine, Western Belarus, pieces of Lithuania. Having organized riots in Upper Silesia, the Poles occupied and her. Along with Katowice. Then Poland captured Galicia from Austria, and a little later, in the 1930s, added pieces of Czechoslovakia to its acquisitions, which she shared with the Nazis.
      Quote: Finches
      this is a shocking work in the crematoria of Auschwitz as a servant of the Nazis!

      Even before Oswinsim they did a good job. In 1937, 700 Orthodox churches were closed, destroyed, or handed over to Catholics in Poland, and the Orthodox Cathedral of Alexander Nevsky in Warsaw was blown up.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy 4 January 2020 18: 47 New
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        Their "merits" are not fully declassified. I think a lot of documents are stored in our archives, and Putin will pull the obstinate again and again. yes
    4. tihonmarine 4 January 2020 19: 03 New
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      Quote: Finches
      this is a shocking work in the crematoria of Auschwitz as a servant of the Nazis!

      And other camps in Poland. And besides this, and in all the armed forces of the Reich.
      The most sensational scandal connected with this happened with Donald Tusk, former Prime Minister of Poland, President of the European Union. Tusk famously lied that "both of his grandfathers got into concentration camps for resisting the Nazis." Soon there was information that his paternal grandfather, Joseph Tusk, voluntarily enrolled in the SS ... center][/ Center]
    5. GKS 2111 4 January 2020 19: 17 New
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      Quote: Finches
      All the “sluggish” merits of Poland in World War II are the shock work in the Auschwitz crematoriums by the Nazis!

      Not only...
      Professor Ryszard Kaczmarek, the author of the book “Poles in the Wehrmacht”, for example, said about the Polish Gazeta Wyborcza: “We can assume that 2-3 million people in Poland have a relative who served in the Wehrmacht. they were silent in this, they escaped with the phrase that his grandfather had died in the war. From the reports of the Polish government in occupied Poland it follows that by the end of 1944 about 450 thousand citizens of pre-war Poland were called up to the Wehrmacht. In general, we can assume that about half a million passed through the German army during the war, ”the professor believes.
    6. Den717 4 January 2020 22: 17 New
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      That is why, in all discussions of the speech of GDP, Polish politicians carefully manage any textured material. Can only mention the pact MR, and then only the name. The rest is emotional snot-yelling. But if they said A - Putin is lying, then you should say B - where he lied and show the truth. But Poles do not go to the truth ... They say that Poland is the most affected nation, but how many of them died in the battles? Only 123000 people. Calculate the share of combat losses of any country in Europe, and the Poles will be the most loafers and cowards.
    7. voyaka uh 4 January 2020 23: 55 New
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      "All the" sluggish "merits of Poland in World War II - this is a shock work in the crests of Auschwitz as a servant of the Nazis!" ////
      -----
      Your statement is very far from the truth and indicates a very one-sided
      the study of World War II.
      1) After the German attack on Poland on September 1, 1939, the Polish army fought
      heroically at the limit of his strength. Wehrmacht suffered heavy losses and was surprised by the stamina
      Poles.
      2) Polish soldiers and officers who crossed over to France formed shock units and
      fought better than everyone else during the Battle of France in 19490. Among them, he fought as an officer
      and the Polish ambassador, whom Putin mentioned.
      3) In the British Army, the Polish units were also shock and elite. They were called
      voluntarily to the most dangerous areas and attacks. In the British Air Force many Poles were composed
      squadrons.
      4) The American army also had a large number of Poles. A very high percentage of Poles was
      in the first echelon during the Allied landings in Normandy.
      5) In the Soviet army, the First Polish Army fought on the cutting edge of all offensives for 44 years and
      participated in a bloody assault on Berlin.
      6) In occupied Poland there was a strong guerrilla movement. Craiova army fought in
      military uniform with insignia, like a regular army. Communist Guard of Ludov
      also actively fought with the Nazi invaders.
      ---
      I hope this information will close the gaps in your knowledge and will contribute to
      better relations between heroic Russian and Polish peoples. drinks
      1. Finches 5 January 2020 00: 07 New
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        You tell me more about the "heroic" army of Craiova at that moment that she laid down more Russian soldiers than German ... And what everyone had the habit of skimming with their deep historical knowledge ?? Like, I know everything - and you go to study? Learning is never too late - this is useful - I, even in a sinful affair, I directed the department at the university — incidentally revered in Israel — Bonch-Bruyevich! And I know firsthand the benefits of education! I know very well about Poland, I did not serve there, but my comrades, with whom I still interact, served in Poland, with the Poles ...
        1. voyaka uh 5 January 2020 00: 14 New
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          Then you, of course, know all the facts that I have outlined.
          All the better. fellow We must carefully study the history of neighbors, even if
          You are in a temporary quarrel with him. I read a lot about the history of the Middle East.
          About the army of the Ottoman Empire, the Egyptian, Syrian army.
          1. Finches 5 January 2020 00: 18 New
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            I would love to hear from you about the history of the Middle East! It would be undoubtedly interesting and informative! hi
      2. 16329 5 January 2020 00: 49 New
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        Well, don’t talk about shocking Polish units, just the British drove the Poles forward like under Monte Cassino or threw them almost directly in the location of the German units, like under Arnhem-Nijmegen (Market garden)
        They just felt sorry for their own, but they used these, it’s logical, the British always liked to use the colonial troops in unsuccessful operations - Canadians (Dieppe),
        ANZAC (Dardanelles operation, 1915), Indian units in Burma and Malaysia, etc.
        No need to speak about the valor of the Poles, and in fact in 1939, the newly restored German army resolved the issue with Poland in 2 weeks, of course it would have been faster if the Polish armies had not been allowed to join under Sochachev, but nonetheless it came down.
        1. voyaka uh 5 January 2020 01: 01 New
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          "for 2 weeks solved the issue with Poland" ////
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          So in June 41 the German army was advancing 50 km per day,
          what is the difference besides the vast distances of Russia? It was,
          where to retreat.
          The Red Army fought heroically and retreated in front of the Wehrmacht.
          The Polish army fought heroically and retreated in front of the Wehrmacht.
          When there was nowhere to retreat - lost.
          Both the USSR and Poland were equally victims of Nazi aggression
          Germany. Both Polish and Russian soldiers equally fulfilled their
          duty fighting a superior adversary.
          1. 16329 5 January 2020 11: 30 New
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            The government and command of the Polish Armed Forces crossed the Romanian border in two weeks, the matter was not in the retreat of troops, organized resistance collapsed, scattered units moved east, the rest were encircled, the country lost centralized leadership, some strange forces tried to defend Warsaw, etc.
            Yes, the Poles somehow fought, someone heroically, but about huge distances, this also affects the defense, Low density of battle formations, the length of the front line, the inability to cover all dangerous directions, etc.
            With rarefied enemy defensive orders, the attacking side with the initiative has tremendous advantages and can only be replayed with the help of effective counterattacks, which the Red Army for various reasons could not and failed to fulfill
            Yes, and the Wehrmacht in 1941 was completely different, and in 1939 it was a newly deployed peacetime army, while German generals noted that the quality of infantry combat training was significantly behind the level of 1914
            1. voyaka uh 5 January 2020 11: 49 New
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              "organized resistance collapsed, disparate units retreated to the east" ////
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              I do not see the difference with 41 years. Scattered parts also left and erupted. And it was great. Many just gave up. Where did a million prisoners of war come from in the first year of the war?
              So, do not carp. There are always nuances in different military campaigns.
              But the essence does not change: the Poles defended their country from Nazi aggression in the year 39 no less heroically than the Russians two years later, in the 41st
              1. 16329 5 January 2020 12: 31 New
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                The difference is fundamental.
                Preservation of the state machine, army and High Command in the USSR in the conditions of the gravest crisis of 1941
                This generally shows the resilience of leadership, people and the whole system.
                And distance and space in overcoming the political and military crisis is by no means the main thing
                There may be different consequences of military defeats, not only the flight of an office like in Poland, but for example a military coup, revolutionary unrest, etc.

                A million prisoners of war (and even more) from enrolling all men of military age in the occupied territory as prisoners of war, as well as being captured in the surroundings of a large number of auxiliary units, as well as the newly drafted contingent.

                And people are always people, someone heroically fought both in Poland and Westerplatte for a long time and someone went under bayonet attacks, someone argued
      3. Gennady Fomkin 5 January 2020 06: 07 New
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        According to the military intelligence of the Red Army, in 1942 the Poles made up 40-45% of the personnel of the 96th Wehrmacht Infantry Division, about 30% of the 11th Infantry Division (together with the Czechs), about 30% of the 57th Infantry Division, about 12 % 110th Infantry Division. Earlier in November 1941, reconnaissance revealed a large number of Poles in the 267th Infantry Division. The Poles took an active part in the battle on the Kursk Bulge, fighting in the Wehrmacht:








        Secretly



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        SCAN N201 to 6.00 14.7.43 STAFF OF THE VORONEZH FRONT



        .... Prisoners of 1/678 pp 332pd captured 12.7 in the RAKOVO area showed: on July 4 the division received a task from the command of the Southern Group of Forces on the eastern front - to advance as part of the BELGOROD group on KURSK. On the left 332 pd, 255 pd operates, on the right TD SS Great Germany. The national composition is 332 pd: 40% are Poles, 10% are Czechs, and the rest are Germans (emphasized by me). The division is commanded by Colonel TIMM, which is part of 52 ak 5 armies. Seized documents of those killed in the area of ​​sowing. NOVOSELOVKA confirms the action in this area of ​​11 td (15 tp) and in the area of ​​high. 220,6 (east. RED OCTOBER) - TD SS "A.GITLER" (2 mp). laughingParticularly important How do the Poles themselves assess this situation?



        "Thus, the Poles saved Stalin's skin for the second time. The first time — without entering into an alliance with Germany, the second time — giving him an invaluable year to form the armed forces." (Pavel Vechorkevich, "Rzeczpospolita", September 28, 2005) Liars and hypocrites!
        laughing

        1. 16329 5 January 2020 12: 36 New
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          In my student days I had a friend a Pole from Silesia (Katowice region)
          He told how his grandfather was mobilized in the Wehrmacht in 1943, was captured near Kursk, called himself a Pole, and a year later he marched west in parts of the 1st Army of the Polish Army
          1. voyaka uh 5 January 2020 17: 55 New
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            A typical example. Ethnic Germans (including “halves” and “quarters”) of Polish citizens were mobilized in the Wehrmacht. In Silesia, there were almost the majority. They spoke fluent Polish and German.
            Having been captured near Kursk, this man spoke in Polish, and he was recorded in the First Polish Army. Otherwise, he would go to a German prisoner of war camp.
      4. ccsr 5 January 2020 17: 31 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        Craiova army fought in
        military uniform with insignia, like a regular army.

        You are lying shamelessly, believing that witnesses of the atrocities of the Craiova Army against the soldiers of the Red Army will not be able to refute you, but the warriors left their memoirs, and you yourself can make sure that it was actually:
  3. Kleber 4 January 2020 17: 56 New
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    Not for nothing Churchill called Poland the hyena of Europe .... the hyena is.
  4. cniza 4 January 2020 17: 59 New
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    The ex-minister also noted that present-day Poland is strong and plays an important role "all over the world", and this "is the result of the enormous efforts of the Polish people."


    Oh, she’s strong, but she’s hiding behind the back of the USA ...
    1. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 08 New
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      When the subsidy period, and accordingly the free money from the EU ends, then we will look at what they will contain American troops.
      1. Romka 4 January 2020 18: 45 New
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        Believe me, they managed their loans with skill and skill, unlike all their eastern neighbors.
        1. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 50 New
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          This is not about loans, but about the free grant to the Polish budget from the EU.
          1. Romka 4 January 2020 19: 28 New
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            Over the past 15 years, Poland has transformed, not to mention the 90s. The salary of a specialist worker is from $ 1000. Among youth, the most popular topic is the Pole Map. Living conditions are really close to European.
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              Of course, it was transformed due to free money, but what will happen next if it does not change its attitude towards Germany itself?
    2. Nyrobsky 4 January 2020 18: 21 New
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      Quote: cniza
      Oh, she’s strong, but she’s hiding behind the back of the USA ...

      Only in the same USA at the time a newspaper was published illustrating Poland’s unseemly activity in weaning part of Czechoslovakia in 1938, only the Poles have the memory of an associate professor - "I remember, I don’t remember here." And in the USA at that time some kind of truth still lived
      .
      1. cniza 4 January 2020 20: 51 New
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        How unpleasant for them to remember all this ...
  5. Sergey39 4 January 2020 18: 02 New
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    In vain have heaped up this heap ...
    Now you won’t stink.
    1. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 12 New
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      No matter how many heaps are made, it won’t stink. And it smells a long time and to the maximum.
    2. Terenin 4 January 2020 20: 38 New
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      Quote: Sergey39
      In vain have heaped up this heap ...
      Now you won’t stink.

      To heap was not, it was necessary to drive away the crap from their homes. And so, with our tolerant government, it remains only to wait for the "heap" on his head ...
      1. cniza 4 January 2020 20: 52 New
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        All the same, better later than never ... hi
        1. Terenin 4 January 2020 21: 23 New
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          Quote: cniza
          All the same, better later than never ... hi

          Of course Victor hi
          But, remembered the joke:
          - "better late than never!" the Jew thought, resting his head on the rails and looking after the departing train wink
  6. Amateur 4 January 2020 18: 09 New
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    According to the former Minister of National Defense of Poland Anthony Matserevich,

    And why is only one schizo quoted in VO? There are many of them. And VNA Ukraine is also full.
    And the article is again anonymous.
  7. svp67 4 January 2020 18: 24 New
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    According to Matserevich, Putin’s “attack” is connected with an attempt to strip Poland and Poles of great merit
    Unfortunately, but Putin’s claim can be brought against “LATE”. If some of our historians have long been sounding the alarm about Poland’s efforts to “deprive Russia and its peoples of great merit,” then GDP just like that with dates and surnames, with the provision of documents, spoke about the role of Poland in that story only recently
    1. rich 4 January 2020 21: 31 New
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      According to Matserevich, Putin’s “attack” is connected with an attempt to strip Poland and Poles of great merit

      On the contrary, Putin only highlighted these great merits
      1. Tutahman 4 January 2020 21: 37 New
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        Quote: Rich
        According to Matserevich, Putin’s “attack” is connected with an attempt to strip Poland and Poles of great merit

        On the contrary, Putin only highlighted these great merits

        Putin just hinted so far. Who were they Rich!
        And if we imagine archives, there the whole Jewish world will clutch its head ..
  8. knn54 4 January 2020 18: 26 New
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    And then Ostap, I’m sorry, Matsarevich suffered ...
  9. Kleber 4 January 2020 18: 36 New
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    The ex-minister also noted that present-day Poland is strong and plays an important role "around the world"


    Important? And what is this importance? Unless it’s just that Ukrainians were attached to their huts in the gardens.
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      Important? And what is this importance?

      This is so ambitious Poles only.
  10. Graz 4 January 2020 18: 37 New
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    "He made huge sacrifices" to save the Jews, while President Putin is trying to accuse us of the Holocaust and World War II. "
    ______________________
    but the Jews know it. that it turns out they were saved by the Poles?))
    1. Sergey39 4 January 2020 18: 50 New
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      Of course they know. Therefore, Duda did not go to Israel.
    2. tihonmarine 4 January 2020 20: 18 New
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      Quote: Graz
      but the Jews know it. that it turns out the Poles saved them?

      Something on the site of their presence was not noticed. The question is why?
  11. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 4 January 2020 18: 49 New
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    An analysis of the actions of one’s own state, an analysis of one’s small-town hatred of Jews (and, in general, of strangers), an analysis of documents, and, accordingly, conclusions (and what about three (so far) partitions of Poland have fallen from heaven?) - not for proud nobles ...
  12. Operator 4 January 2020 18: 52 New
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    What other reaction could be expected from people who “absorb anti-Semitism with mother’s milk”? laughing
  13. tihonmarine 4 January 2020 18: 53 New
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    According to Matserevich, Putin’s “attack” is associated with an attempt to strip Poland and the Poles of great merit.
    Very interesting, and what are the "Great Merits" of Poland? I don’t remember and don’t know. Let the uncle explain to us popularly.
    1. Barmaleyka 4 January 2020 19: 35 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      Great Merit "of Poland. I do not remember such and do not know.

      The Polish army took Berlin, and the Russian helped
      1. Alexga 4 January 2020 20: 12 New
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        The army of the Polish bardzo is mechanized on rovers.
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          Quote: AlexGa
          The army of the Polish bardzo mechanized

      2. tihonmarine 4 January 2020 20: 16 New
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        Quote: Barmaleyka
        The Polish army took Berlin, and the Russian helped

        The answer is accepted.
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        Only not Russian, but Radetsky.
  14. Barmaleyka 4 January 2020 19: 15 New
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    Quote: former Minister of National Defense of Poland Anthony Matserevich
    and all the great Polish achievements
    announce the entire list of achievements pan FORMER DEFENSE MINISTER
    1. Terenin 4 January 2020 20: 56 New
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      Quote: Barmaleyka
      Quote: former Minister of National Defense of Poland Anthony Matserevich
      and all the great Polish achievements
      announce the entire list of achievements pan FORMER DEFENSE MINISTER

      The great Polish achievement is that a pretzel like Matsarevich became Minister of Defense
  15. Moreno 4 January 2020 20: 00 New
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    I think the "Darkest", by ....., i.e. anyway, the opinions of the Poles!
  16. Avior 4 January 2020 20: 05 New
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    . The words of Putin, among others, were answered by the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravecki.

    The son of the leader of "Fighting Solidarity" Cornel Moravecki. It is of Polish and Jewish origin. His aunt Irina was rescued by the Poles during the Holocaust, at the age of 10 years. Another aunt, named Ruma, managed to escape in the territories that had ceded to the USSR, and now lives in Israel. Many of the relatives died during the Holocaust [4] [5].

    During the swearing-in procedure, I congratulated Hanukkah on the holiday and participated in the ceremony of lighting the first Hanukkah candle held in the Sejm. The celebration was also attended by his father, Cornel Moravecki, parliamentary speaker Marek Kuczynski, Israeli ambassador to Poland and representatives of Jewish organizations [4].
  17. Gennady Fomkin 4 January 2020 20: 24 New
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    The former Polish minister also emphasized that the Polish people “made huge sacrifices“ for the salvation of the Jews ”.

    Probably together with good Hungarians yes But Finns and Bulgarians - these were the main criminals. It was necessary to slide down - these "anti-Semitic pigs" Manerheim and Tsar Boris flatly refused to extradite their Jews to humane Hitler fool
    In general, rewriting history is in full swing

    Where the Bulgarians "did not betray the Jews" belay laughing
  18. Pavel57 4 January 2020 20: 28 New
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    It is significant that the majority of Poles are against an objective assessment of history.
  19. Tutahman 4 January 2020 21: 11 New
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    According to Matserevich, Putin’s “attack” is associated with an attempt to strip Poland and the Poles of great merit.

    Putin simply said bluntly who they really are ... and maybe confirm this with archives at any time .. hi
    No wonder such a howl rose ..
  20. sergo1914 4 January 2020 21: 14 New
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    News on VO, of course, fabulous ... news. There are figurates in Baghdad, and here is the latest news ... Poland. Priorities It is strange that urgent news from Ukraine is not spread.
  21. rruvim 4 January 2020 21: 14 New
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    As my acquaintance said: "Railwaymen, masons, students, intellectuals and ... are to blame for everything." He paused and drank a glass. "... And the Poles !!!"
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      The classic was ... and bespectacled !!!
      But redone with humor and to the place good
      For erudition and subtle humor, Roman is a fat plus yes
      1. rruvim 4 January 2020 22: 44 New
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        So my friend was a classic! Evgeny Golovin (he knew the classics by heart). Most of the songs "All-in" (especially the "songs of the sailors") Sklyar wrote. But the truth entered: "In the last battle of Via de la Rosa, the SS division goes into the distance ..."
  22. rruvim 4 January 2020 21: 28 New
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    In fact, there are Poles and Poles. Here with friends they remembered the birthday of Alexander Griboedov (January 1795), the 225th anniversary. Of course, in the framework of relations between Russia and Persia (Iran) in those years. But after all, Alexander Sergeyevich himself was from the Grzhibovsky family, who arrived in Russia in the Time of Troubles from Poland in the retinue of False Dmitry I. And the descendants became true patriots of Russia. Yes, how many Poles "faithfully" served Russia! And then the USSR. Recall the "Iron Felix." So that Poland, it is part of the Russian Empire. It was, is and will be (I hope). That skidded ... drinks
    1. hhhhhhh 4 January 2020 22: 12 New
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      Being Russian is not genetics, but a state of mind.
      1. ccsr 5 January 2020 17: 38 New
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        Quote: hhhhhhh
        Being Russian is not genetics, but a state of mind.

        We can only add to these truly classical words "and have our own worldview for everything that happens to us."
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          Human life is above rights.
          Justice is above the law
          1. rruvim 5 January 2020 18: 05 New
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            And I recall the classic: “Men come to resolve a dispute to the bailiff. They swear among themselves. The official listened to them, listened ... Then he took out dusty volumes of folios-laws. He fucked them on the table and cried out: But how can you judge? By the law (stroking folios) or by Grace? Guys, scared: "by grace, father, by grace ... Why are we doing this without understanding ..." And they went out. The official poured himself a Sherry and smiled. The public day ended " drinks
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              That's it)))
    2. rich 4 January 2020 22: 53 New
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      rruvim (novel): Yes, how many Poles have served Russia faithfully!

      It’s true, no matter who
      Dust sweeps along the road in a long white stripe
      From Chervlenoy on alarm the regiment rushes Grebenskaya
      The Circassian horde descended from the crests of the horns from the mountains.
      caused damage to the jailers, besieged Gudermes ...
      old cherish song
      1. rruvim 4 January 2020 23: 07 New
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        Yes, he served in the "Mountains of the Caucasus." Even continued the duel with one friend from Peter. He was young, rip off your head !!! And the Pole in the third generation. Both by father and mother.
    3. ccsr 5 January 2020 17: 45 New
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      Yes, how many Poles "faithfully" served Russia!

      And we never hid it - it’s just the “iron Lazar Kaganovich” that is worth it, and he went down in our history as the great organizer of our railways, thanks to which we were able to win the Great Patriotic War. The same Dzerzhinsky and Rokossovsky are the true historical figures of our country, despite the fact that they were ethnic Poles. We do not suffer from the fact that non-Russian people brought success to our country, and some scoundrels, like Vlasov, harmed it worse than any foreigner.
      1. Karen 5 January 2020 18: 29 New
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        The same Dzerzhinsky and

        Dear ccsr and rruvim.
        There is a lot of information that Dzerzhinsky is just rubbish russophobic ... And here on the site is also full ... Information, verified, by the way ... You went in cycles on his some useful matters ...
        1. ccsr 5 January 2020 19: 55 New
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          Quote: Karen
          The information that Dzerzhinsky is just rubbish Russophobic is full ..

          Do you believe in everything that the Internet writes? Do not trust everything that you read, because you often don’t know what goals foodmen have.
          Quote: Karen
          You went in cycles on its some useful affairs ...

          Do you know that Peter the Great ruled Russia for more than 40 years and when he was crowned the population of the country was about 15 million people, and after his death the population was 15,5 million people? You can explain how this happened, and if you approach the history of the creation of the Russian Empire with your standards, then where is the benefit of Peter, if he killed the population so much in the name of his goal that he was not a Russophobe, that it practically did not grow, and women gave birth 8-12 times in your life? Think about it to understand why great goals without sacrifices are not achieved.
          1. Karen 5 January 2020 20: 04 New
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            That's why I wrote that there is verified information ...

            About Peter ... I know that economically Russia under Peter narrowed by a quarter ... But it was the territorial acquisitions of the Republic of Ingushetia that brought Sweden to the future ... And the Republic of Ingushetia received a powerful incentive to cheek ....
            1. ccsr 5 January 2020 20: 10 New
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              Quote: Karen
              And RI received a powerful incentive to cheating ....

              That is why I always carefully look at current assessments of past events, and focus more on how this affected the entire course of development of our country. And Peter will remain Great, although it might seem to someone that he would rather be quiet and rule like the old kings.
              1. Karen 5 January 2020 20: 15 New
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                Quote: ccsr
                , and more focus on how this affected the entire course of development of our country.

                Stalin would not have taken power from the Trotsky / Dzerzhinsky and other rubbish - the Russians as an ethnic group would have disappeared ...
  23. hhhhhhh 4 January 2020 22: 11 New
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    Please announce Poland’s merit list.
    1. rruvim 4 January 2020 22: 35 New
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      Not Poland, as some “Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth”, but Poles, as faithful children of the Russian Empire, and the USSR as well.
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        Russians are to blame for Polish anti-Semitism and Russophobia. poor little Poles ... they need to be understood and forgiven, and the Russians pay them money.
  24. Woland 4 January 2020 22: 19 New
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    And how did she “resist”? Probably REALLY !. It could not be otherwise. Everyone knows the "militancy and heroism of the" Polish "mighty" army.
    1. rruvim 4 January 2020 23: 18 New
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      Watch: "Three Tankmen and a Dog" is a very emotional film.
      1. Avior 4 January 2020 23: 32 New
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        Good film
        Only four tankers
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          The fourth was a traitor.
          1. Avior 4 January 2020 23: 43 New
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            Gustav Elen is formally a traitor; he deserted from the Wehrmacht to our side, but I don’t think that such a “betrayal” is condemned.
            The series is called Four Tankers and a Dog
            The series tells about the military fate of tankers and a German shepherd named Sharik (Polish Szarik) [1] from the 1st Warsaw Tank Brigade named after the heroes of Westerplatte of the 1st Army of the Polish Army, their T-34-85 tank with tail number 102, named the crew "Red" (Polish. Rudy) in honor of one of the main characters - the Russian girl Marusya, nicknamed "Spark".

            Yanek, Gustlik, Gregory, Tomash, Olgerd, as well as their front-line comrades, getting into various difficult situations, come out of them with honor, demonstrating perseverance, courage, ability to fight, high moral principles and good friendly humor.

            hi
            1. rruvim 4 January 2020 23: 55 New
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              Well, you're right, right !!! But a good movie! I was in Poland in the dashing nineties. The people were wonderful. And now my brother-in-law is skiing there. He writes: "how they hate us there!" I answered: "Ukrainians or Russians?" . He: "Ukrainians are loved, they wash their toilets. But they are afraid of us." I told him: "To be afraid means respect!"
  25. Olegi1 4 January 2020 23: 31 New
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    It was - the hyena of Europe, it remained ...
  26. Gennady Fomkin 5 January 2020 06: 14 New
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    Please note that numerous politicized TV shows on all channels in today's Russia are always attended by representatives of Poland. Such exemplary anti-Russian political scientists and journalists like Tomasz Maceichuk, Yakub Koreyba, Piter Moran and several others. Insolent, aggressive, impudent, constantly rude to the TV presenter, constantly insulting the past Soviet and current Russian people, constantly urging us to repent to the Poles for our historical crimes against them, and not shy to call the liberation of Poland from the Nazis in the Second World War as the military and political occupation of their country by Soviet troops

    Why are Polish journalists and political scientists invited to our TV shows behaving so ugly and ugly? The answer is simple - they are allowed to behave this way. Who is allowed? How by whom? The current leadership of our television channels, consisting of radicals of the Gaidar bruise and openly hating not only everything Soviet, but all of our Russian.

    Everyone knows the historical hatred of the Poles towards the Russians. And Stalin’s attempt to make our friends from the Poles failed completely and finally in Soviet times. More precisely, back in the time of World War II, when Poland made unprecedented attempts to become an ally of fascist Germany and even annexed the Cieszyn region of Czechoslovakia. Naturally, with the consent of Germany. However, Germany did not allow her to become an ally to Poland. She did not deign to recognize Poland as her ally. I did not deign for a number of reasons.

    And even more - Germany occupied Poland, although the Poles practically did not resist the onslaught of the fascist troops and massively surrendered to them. And Poland became an ordinary “Polish governor general” of Great Germany. Moreover, it became part of Great Germany almost voluntarily. Do not believe? So, you are still under the influence of myths about the powerful anti-fascist resistance that unfolded throughout the territory of occupied Poland.
  27. Gennady Fomkin 5 January 2020 06: 22 New
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    Therefore, Poland should give Silesia, Pomerania and Prussia back to the Germans, Ukraine to return its western part to the Poles, Chernivtsi - to the Romanians, Transcarpathia - to the Hungarians, Lithuania to abandon Vilnius and Klaipeda, Romania - from Transylvania, the Czech Republic - from Sudeten and Tesin, Bulgaria - from Dobrudja . And then everything will be absolutely honest. But where there.

    They hid us on what the light stands, they accuse us of all mortal sins, but Stalin’s “gifts” were seized with a dead grip. Sometimes one would like to imagine: it’s curious what would happen if the USSR was thrown back by Hitler exactly to its borders and not look further into Europe? What would now be left of the territories of those countries that, before the 75th anniversary of the Victory, call their liberation by Soviet troops “occupation”? laughing laughing
  28. Lionnvrsk 5 January 2020 07: 46 New
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    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Representatives of Poland are always present at numerous politicized TV shows that run on all channels in today's Russia. Such exemplary anti-Russian political scientists and journalists like Tomasz Maceichuk, Yakub Koreyba, Piter Moran and several others. Insolent, aggressive, impudent, constantly rude to the TV presenter, constantly insulting the past Soviet and current Russian people, constantly urging us to repent to the Poles

    "... - Yes ... with that little Polish girl. He was funny and sneaky. When he needed a woman, he kissed me with a cat and hot honey flowed from his tongue, and when he didn’t want me, he clicked me words like a whip .....
    - In Poland, it has become difficult for me. Cold and deceitful people live there. I did not know their snake tongue. Everyone hiss ... What hiss? It was God who gave them such a serpentine tongue for being deceitful .... "
    Old Isergil. M. Gorky wink
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  30. Mikhail Drabkin 5 January 2020 09: 31 New
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    What did not please the simple Poles? ...

    —- You forgot about the transition from quantity to quality .... when “you can’t wash off a black dog” ...
    —- An individual Pole in Russia or a simple Russian in Poland, as a rule, are not declared as guests with their charter.
    —But a group of ordinary Poles in common emotions, such as a hymn, including a specific Casimir ... or a group of ordinary Russians on Victory Day, including his specific friend Nikita, is completely different.
    —- Emotions or opinion in a group is like an applied voltage ... and the electrons flow to ++++ ... reveals the true Casimir and Nikita, not all humans, but the Russian and the Pole.
    —–Therefore, simple Poles did not please me, but I ..... you won’t wash them off
  31. Yury Siritsky 5 January 2020 13: 00 New
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    You need to poke these freaks with your nose into the documents. Let them read and finally shut up.
  32. Astrey 5 January 2020 22: 25 New
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    deprive Poland and the Poles of great merit.

    In this case, “merit” should be forgotten and not rolled up tantrums.
  33. oracul 6 January 2020 07: 28 New
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    It is strange since when did the opinion of the ardent Russophobe Matsarevich become the opinion of the Poles? The results of the survey always depend on the ability to pose questions, but they do not necessarily reflect the point of view of the majority.