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The first two Airbus H125 helicopters arrived for Ukrainian border guards

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According to the press service of the State Fire Service of Ukraine, on January 3, two Airbus H125 helicopters manufactured by the French company Airbus Helicopters were delivered to the country. They are intended for the Ukrainian border service. Cars arrived under the Ukrainian-French intergovernmental agreement.


First Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Sergey Yarovoy notes that these helicopters are ideal for training crews in flying skills and patrolling the state border, as they are very economical. He noted that Ukraine before that received five such H125 for the needs of rescuers and the National Guard.

The head of the State Border Service, Sergey Deineko, notes that the received fuel consumption helicopters are 8-4 times more economical than the ones currently used. Thus, with the same amount of fuel, a French helicopter will be able to make 5-4 times more sorties than its predecessor. Thus, it is easier to ensure the constant presence of equipment in the air and to respond quickly to changes in the border situation.

The first two H125 will be sent to Kremenchug Flight College, where they will be used as training helicopters. In the future, Ukraine will receive 24 more such machines.

Meanwhile, experts in Ukraine believe that we are talking about a new corruption scheme, the main purpose of which is to get actually old cars under the guise of new equipment.
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  1. Yang yangov
    Yang yangov 4 January 2020 15: 00
    +9
    [/ Quote]
    Meanwhile, experts in Ukraine believe that we are talking about a new corruption scheme, the main point of which is to get actually old cars under the guise of new equipment. [quote]

    years go by, but in Ukraine all the same games) ..
    1. Finches
      Finches 4 January 2020 15: 54
      +3
      With these two French helicopters Avakov has already been half a year, if not more, worn by all the media, as if he had acquired a squadron!

      Two Ukrainians are sitting on the block, one asks:
      - Hear the syudy, Mykola, do you have AIDS?
      Another, not understanding what this is about, thinks: “I’ll say no: well, how is it: I don’t have something — it’s undignified. I’ll say there is — suddenly asks,” and finally answers:
      - e, but troki tilki for sebe !.
      laughing
      1. Proxima
        Proxima 4 January 2020 16: 21
        +12
        The head of the State Border Service, Sergey Deineko, notes that the resulting fuel consumption helicopters are 8-4 times more economical than the Mi-5 currently in use (from the text). These Deineks have completely lost the remnants of their brains ?! fool How can you compare the "eight", the carrying capacity of which 4 (!!) tons and this quadrocopter with a carrying capacity of 1300 kg?
        1. Looking for
          Looking for 4 January 2020 16: 25
          +4
          this helicopter is nothing but a toy for entertaining wealthy loafers.
        2. Grits
          Grits 4 January 2020 16: 55
          +6
          Quote: Proxima
          These Deineks have completely lost the remnants of their brains ?!

          Really silly. It was necessary to compare with the Mi-26 - it would have been much more solid
        3. antivirus
          antivirus 4 January 2020 16: 59
          0
          and they looked Features of the national hunt - MAIN HOW MUCH GENERALS TO DRINK - MUCH AND THROW THROUGH THE GLOW, and the bastards and bast shoes will come down
          1. novel66
            novel66 4 January 2020 17: 34
            +3
            and ravioli! lol not to have a snack
            1. cost
              cost 4 January 2020 18: 44
              +4
              Helicopters will be purchased with the help of a French loan granted under an agreement between the Ukrainian government and the French government. At the same time, 15% of the contract price with Airbus Helicopters SAS will be paid from the Ukrainian state budget.
              The total cost of helicopters is 554,29 million euros or 18,23 billion UAH. They will be delivered to Ukraine before the end of 2022


              the contract shows that these helicopters who has vikoristanni, i.e. used
              1. novel66
                novel66 4 January 2020 19: 12
                +1
                Former Country - Former Guintrawing
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 4 January 2020 19: 17
                +4
                Quote: Rich
                from the contract it is clear that these helicopters used in vikoristanni, that is, used

                Do you think that our airlines are buying "zero" Airbuses and Boeings?
                1. NKT
                  NKT 4 January 2020 21: 36
                  +2
                  Some are, yes, Aeroflot, for example, or S7. The latter is not so common.
              3. Rzzz
                Rzzz 4 January 2020 20: 36
                0
                No, read carefully. 125th new. Second-hand - this is the 225th.
        4. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 4 January 2020 21: 48
          0
          Quote: Proxima
          The head of the State Border Service, Sergey Deineko, notes that the resulting fuel consumption helicopters are 8-4 times more economical than the Mi-5 currently in use (from the text). These Deineks have completely lost the remnants of their brains ?! fool How can you compare the "eight", the carrying capacity of which 4 (!!) tons and this quadrocopter with a carrying capacity of 1300 kg?

          Absolutely right! It can be compared with MI-2, which was modernized with the latest technology. And he became much better than H125.
        5. orionvitt
          orionvitt 5 January 2020 07: 45
          +1
          Quote: Proxima
          8-4 times more economical than currently used Mi-5

          In terms of fuel, it may be more economical, but in terms of maintenance, it is more expensive than the G2 at the same time. And again "pre-break", smoothly turns into "zrada". And Motor Sich helicopters, based on MI-XNUMX, with their own engines (that is, entirely of their own production), sideways. This is a slogan in Ukraine, "we will support the domestic manufacturer." So they supported, someone in the pocket.
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 4 January 2020 22: 14
      -1
      Everyone knows and says that it’s pure water, the Deriban budget, only Sabakov does not care at all. It is not clear why they compare it with Mi - 8, when a classmate of Mi - 2. If you compare them, then there are practically no advantages. Especially when you consider 2 - ek at the MO storage bases there are several hundred.
    3. Angelo Provolone
      Angelo Provolone 5 January 2020 02: 05
      -3
      In Ukraine, this is true, but in Russia there are new schemes: they rob the deceived Dolsiks


      How cheated real estate investors fight for their rights in Vladivostok

      https://111bashni.ru/novosti/kak-obmanutye-dolshhiki-boryutsya-za-svoi-prava-vo-vladivostoke.htm
  2. boss
    boss 4 January 2020 15: 03
    -3
    Ukraine soared!
    and economical how ....
    5 whole Guinea Wings, but they will study at 2, and therefore 3, well, at two services.
    in short, one and a half rescuers, one and a half border guards!
    and over the course of 10 years, they promised another twenty.
    Interestingly, well, at least not used, like Amers almost battleships?
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 4 January 2020 15: 46
      +3
      Of course not. Europeans need to sell their equipment. Plus, pr-in mi2 in Ukraine to kill, and then suddenly someone else will buy, flattered by cheapness. Why do we need competitors, even such dumb ones? Well, the Ukrainian authorities and oligarchs are systematically dumping the local, complex production into scrap. It is expensive and not profitable for them. It’s easier for them to spend the money spent on maintaining the local pr-va on the procurement of consignments of kosher western weapons and equipment. Yes, and it is beneficial to us. Ukrainian pr-va will bend, get rid of the competitor. We will entice specialists to ourselves. In the west, they are not needed in FIG. request
      1. Kleber
        Kleber 4 January 2020 16: 21
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Plus pr-in mi2 in Ukraine to kill


        As far as I know, the Mi-2 was not produced in Ukraine, but they were modernized on the Motor Sich to the level of the Mi-2MSB .... and even then in small quantities, and the quality of the modernization left much to be desired.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 4 January 2020 19: 15
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Yes, and it is beneficial to us. Ukrainian pr-va will bend, get rid of the competitor. We will entice specialists to ourselves. In the west, they are not needed in FIG. request

        I think I’ve already got rid of the competitor, with a competent approach from the Russian Federation in a couple of years the 404th will lose the opportunity to exploit -8 and will fly out of the same Africa where their companies work.
        And the Kremenchug already complain - the cars received are not in the best condition and not even -8am.
        Well, they strive to get under the bourgeoisie: there is no possibility and no need to interfere - we won’t worry, let alone, all by ourselves ....
    2. Pavel Gorbik
      Pavel Gorbik 4 January 2020 16: 52
      -1
      This is enough to air support the "mosquito" fleet in inflatable boats at the head of 40-year-old decommissioned US BO boats.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 4 January 2020 22: 15
      0
      Used part of them
  3. svp67
    svp67 4 January 2020 15: 04
    +10
    The head of the State Border Service, Sergey Deineko, notes that the received fuel consumption helicopters are 8-4 times more economical than the ones currently used. Thus, with the same amount of fuel, a French helicopter will be able to make 5-4 times more sorties than its predecessor. Thus, it is easier to ensure the constant presence of equipment in the air and to respond quickly to changes in the border situation.
    Here I read and once again wonder how the truth can cover up a lie ...
    irbus Helicopters H125 (formerly Eurocopter AS350) is a lightweight single-engine universal helicopter. For high speed, maneuverability and compact size, the aircraft was nicknamed Écureuil - “Squirrel”. What are the specifications of the Airbus Helicopters H125:
    Capacity: 1 pilot + 5/6 passengers
    Maximum speed: 287 km / h
    Maximum cruising speed: 251 km / h
    Range without refueling: 631 km
    Main rotor diameter: 10,7 m
    Height: 3,34 m
    Length: 12,94 m
    The mass of the empty helicopter: 1174 kg
    Carrying capacity: 1400 kg
    Now compare it with the Mi-8
    Production odes: since 1965.
    Total manufactured: about 12 thousand pieces.
    Combat use: military conflicts of the second half of the XX century.
    Crew - 3 people, landing - up to 28 people.
    Take-off weight - 12 tons.
    Dimensions: length (with screws) - 25,3 m, height (with tail rotor) - 5,5 m, rotor diameter - 21,3 m.
    Armament: 1 × 12,7 mm or 7,62 mm machine gun, suspension points for unguided aircraft missiles and bombs.
    Gas turbine engines.
    Maximum speed - 260 km / h.
    Practical ceiling - 4,2 km.
    Flight range - 425-480 km.
    These are cars of DIFFERENT CLASS. If we compare the N-125, then with the Mi-2, which, by the way, is now being produced in a small series in Ukraine, which means this contract deprived the Ukrainian workers of earnings
    Mi-2MSB
    The diameter of the rotor, m 14.50
    The diameter of the tail rotor, m 2.70
    Length, m 11.40
    Height, m
    Weight, kg
    maximum take-off 4000
    Engine type 2 GTD Motor-Sich AI-450M
    Power, hp 2 x 465
    The maximum speed, km / h 210
    Cruising speed, km / h 200
    Practical range, km 750
    Rate of climb, m / min
    Practical ceiling, m 5000
    Static ceiling, 2300 m
    Crew 1
    Payload: up to 7 passengers or 1000 kg of cargo in the cabin or 1100 kg on the suspension
    1. knn54
      knn54 4 January 2020 15: 17
      +4
      Serhiy, depriving Ukrainian workers of earnings is a "trick" of the authorities.
      As an example, the order for turbines is given to China, although there is "Turboatom". Even 10 years ago, foreign buyers (I witnessed a conversation with the Vietnamese) gave bribes so as not to stand in line. THEN there was a queue for 5 ... 6 years. Today is four days. And the threat of privatization.
      And here it is already "usual" - Avakov is ahead of everyone (police, National Guard, border guards).
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 4 January 2020 15: 38
      +6
      Well, Mi2 is released - it is said very much.

      Then it is more economical and Mi-2. In all respects. And by the resource. And for maintenance (a new approach to service has already been introduced on this model - this is optimization of operations, highly efficient and quick checks, etc.). And on fuel for 1 engine.

      Reasons for the purchase:
      1) MS could not give a loan for 80% of the products, but France did. Avakov paid only 20% in money. The rest is a loan from the EU and a loan from French banks.
      2) You need a reliable car with certificates. For the same reason, for example, Kazan and Kumertau are being eaten in Russia, where the helicopter plant has bent and will be liquidated, or rather reoriented to the production of spare parts, Arseniev.



      Well, here is a cherry, the same 125 - collected in France, at the same factory, just two years earlier. Purchased in the Far East.
      Two ambulance helicopters Airbus Helicopters AS350 B3e, purchased on behalf of the Governor of Primorsky Territory Vladimir Miklushevsky, were put into operation, the press service of the regional administration said.

      One of the helicopters has been put into operation at the airfield in Kavalerovo; it will deliver patients from the northern territories of the region to the regional center. On February 5, the aircraft made its first flight from Kavalerovo to the regional vascular center of the regional clinical hospital No. 1 in Vladivostok. "We are located at a distance of 450 kilometers from the regional center, and often our patients need high-tech help, moreover, prompt. First of all, such help will be needed for patients with cardiovascular diseases, pregnant women and those who have received serious injuries," the press service said. administration of the words of the chief physician of the Kavalerovo hospital Vyacheslav Nazarenko.

      During his working trip to Kavalerovo, V. Miklushevsky emphasized that every doctor knows the rule of the "golden hour", when every minute is important for saving lives. "These machines are able to quickly deliver a person to the hospital from the most inaccessible region of Primorye, ”said the governor. - The flight from Kavalerovo to Vladivostok, for example, will take only an hour and a half. One helicopter, according to experts, is about 200-250 saved lives a year".

      1. Pavel Gorbik
        Pavel Gorbik 4 January 2020 16: 42
        +1
        So what? Medical airbases have already bought 160 pieces. It’s just that Ansat with a medical module was certified in only 19 g, they simply do not exist yet, and there are already more than 60 combat training units in the Ansat-U army.
      2. Grits
        Grits 4 January 2020 17: 05
        +2
        Quote: donavi49
        Two ambulance helicopters Airbus Helicopters AS350 B3e, purchased on behalf of the Governor of the Primorsky Territory Vladimir Miklushevsky, put into operation

        True. I confirm. Even my little son was photographed in the cockpit of one of these helicopters, which is in the photo. I often prepare a site for their landing in our area. And he was always surprised - why not buy Ansta for the Primorye Disaster Medicine? After all, they are no worse. But in our regional administration, apparently they think quite differently.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 4 January 2020 19: 05
          +1
          Quote: Gritsa
          why not buy Ansta for the Primorsky Disaster Medicine? After all, they are no worse. But in our regional administration, apparently they think quite differently.

          The sanitary version of the Ansat is not yet on stream. But the Ka-226, with its modular design, can be quickly converted.
          1. Grits
            Grits 5 January 2020 06: 54
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            The sanitary version of the Ansat is not yet on stream. But the Ka-226, with its modular design, can be quickly converted.

            By the way, yes. I forgot about him. It turns out that there are enough options. Would the will of the mighty of this world.
    3. Rzzz
      Rzzz 4 January 2020 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      If we compare the N-125, then with the Mi-2, which, by the way, is now being produced in a small series

      Not available. This is a remotorized old Mi-2. Accordingly, they will be "released" until more or less whole corpses of the original Mi-2 run out.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 4 January 2020 22: 18
        +1
        There are more than 200 of these corpses in storage bases, so that would be enough for a long time. And soon "Motor" will be quietly buried and there will be no one to repair it.
  4. Eug
    Eug 4 January 2020 15: 14
    +3
    Damn, but the UAV can’t patrol the border ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 4 January 2020 17: 45
      +3
      Quote: Eug
      Damn, but the UAV can’t patrol the border ...

      And the UAV operational group will be able to deliver to the point?
      1. Eug
        Eug 4 January 2020 18: 51
        -1
        Of course not. Optimal - UAV + helicopter with a group on the database, but the article is about patrolling. In addition, with the UAV, documentation of the violation is real and further measures are taken. In general, in the border areas, everyone knows everyone, so if they wanted to and were interested, illegal crossings would have been stopped long ago. Yes, there are not so many of them, illegal ...
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 4 January 2020 22: 28
          +2
          I watched news from Ukraine on the Internet. Several years ago (I don't remember exactly the year) in Zap. Ukraine in the Transcarpathian region in Uzhgorod found an underground passage to Slovakia. Tunnel 700m, max. depth 6m, inside there are rails for a trolley, there is ventilation, the "road to the EU" began in a private house good . The written article dates from 26.08.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          1. Eug
            Eug 4 January 2020 22: 52
            +2
            There was such a message, even shown on TV. There was also infa about an underground hose across the border, as a fuel line, I think that alcohol was pumped. And from the air, such a tunnel, like a hose, cannot be discerned ...
  5. rruvim
    rruvim 4 January 2020 15: 14
    -2
    Peremoga !!!!
    1. novel66
      novel66 4 January 2020 17: 35
      0
      oh, zrada, zrada !!!
  6. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 4 January 2020 15: 19
    -5
    And the facts confirming your words that these are old cars under the guise of new ones, and maybe even agreed on old cars ...
    And how do you like this scheme - an hour of renting a 60-ton crane at an object ... in the Murmansk region, costs about 14-16 thousand rubles, and it costs there for days, moreover, it can not do a single lift, and there are dozens of cranes like Do you need such a scheme?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 January 2020 15: 41
      +7
      125 novies.

      Used is 225. Big ones. They came at a great discount. For rejected. When the certificate was revoked, they hung. When they returned the certificate and finalized the car, AK was already purchased by August.

    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 4 January 2020 16: 14
      0
      Quote: 75Sergey
      And how do you like this scheme - an hour of renting a 60-ton crane at an object ... in the Murmansk region, costs about 14-16 thousand rubles, and it costs there for days, moreover, it can not do a single lift, and there are dozens of cranes like You such a scheme

      Russia is not Ukraine can afford a lot of things. Well, except of course the purchase of decommissioned American boats, only Ukraine can afford this ...
      1. Earth
        Earth 4 January 2020 22: 45
        0
        Quote: Fitter65
        purchases of decommissioned American boats, only Ukraine can afford that ..

        I could not. Islands are given as a gift. Paid only for services and equipment.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 6 January 2020 13: 21
          +1
          Quote: Earth
          Quote: Fitter65
          purchases of decommissioned American boats, only Ukraine can afford that ..

          I could not. Islands are given as a gift. Paid only for services and equipment.
          Well, they gave them rusty hulls, but their painting. and if you bring it into a more or less divine state, you already have to pay for it, but if there is also equipment, some will be delivered (also seen restored after "storage"), so this is a separate option. That's cool...
  7. Mytholog
    Mytholog 4 January 2020 15: 30
    +1
    Well, compared with the Poltava AK1-3 - a clear progress, albeit more expensive.
    Still, the Mi-8 is a fairly large transporter, with all its advantages. Gluttonous, to teach schoolchildren and to drive along the border - kerosene is not enough for him.
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 4 January 2020 15: 37
    -3
    received fuel consumption helicopters are 8-4 times more economical than the Mi-5 currently used. Thus, with the same amount of fuel, a French helicopter will be able to make 4-5 times more sorties than its predecessor.

    But they have no complaints about the quality of fuel? It’s painfully interesting - they will swallow local fuel, will it be necessary to import al bourgeois fuels and lubricants?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 January 2020 16: 16
      +7
      There are mostly Baltic jet fuel. Not local. Therefore, they will devour. Plus it's standardization. Or do you think in the same Boryspil they import sealed wagons of kerosene for Boeings and Watermelons? Or do they fly on local body water urine?

      Also actually in Russia. I showed above that exactly the same H125 in the performance of flying ambulances in the Far East works. Think Japanese fuel? wink
  9. Shkworen
    Shkworen 4 January 2020 15: 57
    0
    A friend told me that MI-8 consumes 800 liters of kerosene per hour, and how much then airbassovsky?
    Well, how sensitive it is to the quality of kerosene is also a question :)
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 4 January 2020 16: 08
      +3
      Quote: Shkworen
      A friend told me that MI-8 consumes 800 liters of kerosene per hour, and how much then airbassovsky?

      According to the passport data -0,680 t / h. This is an average value, given the density of fuel in the summer, we get a slightly larger value, again what kind of load, altitude, range, the state of the atmosphere on the route, with suspension or not ...
  10. Fitter65
    Fitter65 4 January 2020 16: 02
    +1
    The head of the State Border Service, Sergey Deineko, notes that the resulting fuel consumption helicopters are 8-4 times more economical than the Mi-5 currently in use. Thus, with the same amount of fuel, a French helicopter will be able to make 4-5 times more sorties than its predecessor.
    And if he finds out how much fuel is consumed, a trike? ...
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 4 January 2020 20: 46
      0
      And what about the Orlan with a 20 cc motor?
  11. tetragram
    tetragram 4 January 2020 16: 02
    +1
    Compare mi 8 with this is not correct!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 January 2020 16: 20
      +6
      Actually incorrect. On alternatives correctly.

      Well, what else could a particular customer get? SMEs? So his MS will not produce as much in such a time and for such money. Plus it’s worse in everything.

      Mi-8 rebuild or outbid with low mileage.

      And ... that's it. There are no other helicopters at an affordable base.

      You could take Bella for example. Or Augusta. But France agreed to lend 80% of the contract amount, so they took Watermelons. Everything is simple wink
  12. russia2016
    russia2016 4 January 2020 16: 42
    +3
    I always said that a lot of negativity and bile against Ukraine in all Russian media will have a very positive effect on the future in improving relations with our neighbor! Very smart tactics, keep it up!
    1. Earth
      Earth 4 January 2020 22: 47
      0
      Quote: russia2016
      Very smart tactics, keep it up!

      you will not drink experience. They do the same with RB. One to one. Then they will blame that they have always been like that.
      They form an attitude so that it would be easier to explain the KhPP later (why we lost Ukraine / Belarus / Armenia / others)
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 January 2020 17: 22
    0
    As for the "constant presence of technology in the air," they got excited. By the way, the operating cost probably includes more than just fuel costs?
  14. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 4 January 2020 19: 17
    +1
    We bought it and did it right, the Mi-8 is hefty, you need to be smaller.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 4 January 2020 20: 11
      -2
      Of course. It’s not for the neighbors to use healthy helicopters today. And smaller will come down. hi
  15. Alexga
    Alexga 4 January 2020 20: 19
    -1
    At the beginning of 2000, the border guards of Belarus also bought two such units, then wrote off very quickly. They could only be served in France. Such rules, otherwise you can’t fly. Gold steel.
  16. Kelwin
    Kelwin 4 January 2020 22: 04
    +3
    I’m not tired of posting about 404, what has arrived there, what has gone away? already sick ...
  17. Mechanocleap
    Mechanocleap 4 January 2020 22: 17
    -2
    The very thing for Ukraine is that they have a Sich motor for now. And they buy helicopters from others
  18. Zoomlion
    Zoomlion 5 January 2020 01: 55
    0
    Quadrocopter in general, consider free operation)
  19. LSI_72
    LSI_72 5 January 2020 05: 47
    0
    The contract says EC 225 LP (used) - 24 pieces, and H125 -10 pcs. new ones. It’s bad that they do not develop their aviation industry at least for the overhaul of MI 2 (after all, the Khokhlyatsk mass media wrote about this as a help-loudly). This trend exists and in Russia we are not developing our aviation industry fast enough. We write in the media beautifully and loudly how well we develop our aviation industry, and in fact the speed is like an unlubricated cart (long and with a creak)