Military Review

Possible answer: Elimination of the IRGC general may lead to the appearance of Iranian nuclear weapons

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The world media is discussing the possible development of events after the American strike on the car with the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. “Military Review” provides a small overview of the assumptions that experts in different countries of the world are building about the prospects for this event.


A major German publication, FAZ, released material entitled Three Scripts for Counterattack. In it, the editor of the politics department Rainer Hermann writes that the spiritual leader of Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei, has already promised "severe harsh retribution of the United States for acts of aggression."

Hermann writes that so far, Iran has tried to avoid a direct military confrontation with the United States, as well as the United States with Iran. But now the situation can go a different way.
From an article by Rainer Hermann:

Iran can mobilize its militias against American partners and allies in several countries in the Middle East. These are Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip, Shiite police units in Iraq and pro-Iranian units in Syria. For example, if they attack targets in Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates, the United States will need to provide assistance (based on agreements). But then the Arab states will also have to wake up from their lethargy.

Another option that the author considers in FAZ is the use of drones. An example is the strike on Saudi Aramco facilities in Saudi Arabia. Iran is accused of striking in the West, although Iran denies any involvement.

Hermann:

With these blows, Iran “cut off” half of the oil production in Saudi Arabia, which corresponds to approximately 5% of global demand.

The German expert writes that if the attack is repeated, then Riyadh may turn to the Russian Federation with a request to urgently deliver S-400 systems. At the same time, Riyadh will ask the United States not to impose CAATSA sanctions against him, since the complexes are required "immediately to protect against Iran." And the United States, as the author writes, is unlikely to have an argument for objection to this.

Another possible Iranian move that Western media is writing about: blocking the Strait of Hormuz. This will lead to an unprecedented 70st century oil shortage and skyrocketing prices for "black gold". At the same time, it may even be beneficial for Trump, because then dozens of American companies engaged in the production of shale hydrocarbons will come out of oblivion. At prices above $ 80 per barrel, shale oil production becomes profitable, and at prices of XNUMX and above it will bring extra profit.

Experts in East Asian countries, responding to information about threats from Iran by retaliatory measures against the United States, believe that Tehran’s toughest reaction will be the final suspension from any obligations under a nuclear deal.

This could ultimately lead to Iran’s creation of its own nuclear weapons. In turn, if the United States does not prevent this, such a result will be a complete failure of American policy and Trump's fatal strategic mistake: eliminating the IRGC general can generate what the Iran and the United States most fear about the Iranian nuclear bomb.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 3 January 2020 18: 31
    +22
    So I understand that all the "interesting" is yet to come ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 3 January 2020 18: 36
      +20
      The German expert writes that if the attack is repeated, then Riyadh may turn to the Russian Federation with a request to urgently deliver S-400 systems

      Yeah, but in Russia, the S-400 complexes stand directly and are waiting for Riyadh to ask them. But nothing that there is not a weak queue for them?
      1. svp67
        svp67 3 January 2020 18: 39
        +10
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Yeah, but in Russia, the S-400 complexes stand directly and are waiting for Riyadh to ask them. But nothing that there is not a weak queue for them?

        There are enough cases in history when, at a BIG request and a double, or even triple price, a manufacturer country supplied complexes from its Armed Forces. But here I think that if Riad turns to us, it will not be quick. While our specialists study the situation there, while the Saudis are trained, enough time will pass. Faster they will have "Shells"
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 3 January 2020 18: 41
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Faster they will have "Shells"

          And they already have "Armor", as far as I know.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 3 January 2020 19: 50
            +3
            If Iran makes an atomic bomb, Israel will get the US to attack Iran. The Jewish lobby in the USA is very strong. And the atomic bomb is a piece product, you can’t quickly get them stuck on the conveyor. Maximum, a couple of pieces will be at the beginning of the war. And it is likely that Israel will know where they are, and the war will begin with a blow to the area.
            Iran will not test its atomic bomb. Although he will be threatened to do so.
            The most adequate answer would be blood for blood. That is, to increase support for the Houthis and Hezbollah. Moreover, to carry out an "anti-terrorist operation" on the territory of the United States itself.
            Reconciliation is more active with Iraq (although they fought for a long time, but now the enemy is common, we must put up with it)
            1. Robertocalos
              Robertocalos 3 January 2020 20: 31
              -34
              Israel does not need to "achieve" anything. He's self-rolling factories. This has already happened. The religious fanatics still lacked nuclear weapons.
              1. Connor MacLeod
                Connor MacLeod 3 January 2020 20: 36
                +35
                Quote: Robertocalos
                Religious fanatics of nuclear weapons did not have enough.

                And who is the Israelis? laughing laughing laughing
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                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 21: 16
                    +19
                    Quote: Robertocalos
                    The only Europeans in BV.

                    Well, actually, they and the Arabs of the same field are apples, but in the bathhouse they’re all for one ...
                    1. Robertocalos
                      Robertocalos 3 January 2020 21: 19
                      -17
                      It's not about blood, it's about brains.
                  2. il-z
                    il-z 3 January 2020 21: 31
                    +7
                    Write to the Crusaders ...
                  3. Victorio
                    Victorio 3 January 2020 22: 50
                    +9
                    Quote: Robertocalos
                    The only Europeans in BV. But with the eggs.

                    ===
                    Israel is Asia. the second is true, fanatics with eggs
                  4. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
                    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 4 January 2020 02: 23
                    +8
                    This is a poor people in the past, wandering in the desert. Only Stalin made Israel a country. Out of gratitude, they oppress the people of Palestine. Palestine was already when Israel was created. In short, the nomadic people are like gypsies who have received the status of a state.
                    1. classic46
                      classic46 4 January 2020 06: 36
                      +7
                      And no one will tell how the Jews at one time killed Palestinian families in order to settle in their homes.
                    2. Alex Justice
                      Alex Justice 4 January 2020 09: 34
                      +6
                      These are formerly poor people wandering in the desert

                      Jews hodgepodge from Arabs. For a long time they were enslaved to the Persians, where they composed the torus. Rather, it is a sect, not a nationality.
                      1. Chaldon48
                        Chaldon48 4 January 2020 11: 37
                        +2
                        It is not so important where they were before, it is important that they are now and are gradually turning into a detonator on a platoon for a Middle Eastern boiba
                  5. Sarmat Sanych
                    Sarmat Sanych 4 January 2020 03: 45
                    +1
                    Robertocalos, what the hell are you "Europeans"laughing, the usual ever-aching tribe, wandering for centuries until the Union on a silver platter gave the country and statehood.
              2. Foxnova
                Foxnova 3 January 2020 21: 22
                +3
                Pakistan norms live
                1. Robertocalos
                  Robertocalos 3 January 2020 21: 55
                  -12
                  Was Osama taken out of there?
              3. Jager
                Jager 4 January 2020 15: 03
                +1
                Pakistan laughs softly around the corner from this phrase
              4. Otshelnik
                Otshelnik 4 January 2020 15: 57
                0
                And what kind of fanatics are you? They are heavenly angels in comparison with you, the Zionist fascists!
            2. Binder
              Binder 3 January 2020 20: 48
              -21
              Quote: Shurik70
              If Iran makes an atomic bomb,

              Who will allow him? lol
              1. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 21: 13
                +6
                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                Who will allow him?

                what can Jews not be Arabs ?!
                no one will ask you this
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                  1. Stone
                    Stone 3 January 2020 21: 43
                    +17
                    Listen, monkey and remember, Iranians are Persians. And you are a complete Troll who mows under a Jew.
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                      1. Sarmat Sanych
                        Sarmat Sanych 4 January 2020 03: 47
                        -1
                        Robertocalos, you don’t change the traditions of dipping yourself in filth, file and come back
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                    3. Binder
                      Binder 4 January 2020 06: 52
                      -7
                      You show courage exclusively in virtual communication, in real life I would have taught you decent behavior.
                    4. aszzz888
                      aszzz888 4 January 2020 09: 36
                      +1
                      Steen (Ruslan) Yesterday, 21:43
                      +13
                      Listen, monkey and remember, Iranians are Persians. And you are a complete Troll who mows under a Jew.

                      Ruslan, please do not feed the troll. It will sprinkle with bile, and itself will die.
                  2. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 22: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Robertocalos
                    Monkeys therefore do not give grenades.

                    for the sake of truth, you just picked up an article from the floor
                    enough courage to call yourself a full name with an address, etc.?!
                    1. Robertocalos
                      Robertocalos 3 January 2020 22: 57
                      -15
                      Has it started to knock already?) Forward. I know how to use the Russian language without obvious insults, so - by.
                      1. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 23: 00
                        +5
                        God be with you, whoever pays you who needs you, but it’s terrible to be called, and the insult was direct and concrete
                      2. Robertocalos
                        Robertocalos 3 January 2020 23: 11
                        -19
                        I don’t understand who I don’t imagine, a lot of honor. Who offended, let him try to ask, justified.
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                      4. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 23: 26
                        +5
                        well, if you don’t know how to answer for the bazaar, then keep your mouth shut
                      5. Robertocalos
                        Robertocalos 3 January 2020 23: 27
                        -12
                        Who asks that?
                      6. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 23: 38
                        +6
                        Я
                        you violated the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation if you are so brave then write similar on your own behalf without hiding behind a nickname, if on it there is enough spirit sit quietly
                      7. Sarmat Sanych
                        Sarmat Sanych 4 January 2020 03: 56
                        +2
                        Robertocalos, listen to someone's chosen one, wash your footcloths and then crawl out to decent people. Write N I'll call you back to explain who you are and what you are. If I’m in Moscow, I’ll come to you myself and you’ll tell me personally about the "gurias", "brains" and "monkeys".
                2. Altai72
                  Altai72 3 January 2020 22: 11
                  +7
                  Iranians are actually not Arabs, but Persians.
                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 22: 38
                    +2
                    and in BV only Iranians and Jews live ?!
                  2. Robertocalos
                    Robertocalos 3 January 2020 23: 02
                    -12
                    In Iran, in general, the Persians - a little more than half, if cleanliness. But it was not from that. OMN fanatics are not allowed. Their gurus are waiting, and their children are waiting for normal people. Home, alive and healthy.
                    1. meandr51
                      meandr51 4 January 2020 21: 24
                      +2
                      Well, if WMD fanatics can’t, then you must urgently take it from Israel and the United States. And leave Kim. He hasn’t bombed anyone yet.
                  3. SovAr238A
                    SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 13
                    -3
                    Quote: Altai72
                    Iranians are actually not Arabs, but Persians.

                    when it was?
                    2000 years ago?
                    you still find pure Slavs ...
                    The first tribe went to the second - all the men were slaughtered, the women were all changed.
                    Who was born?
                    After 50 years, the third tribe slaughtered the first and all the women were razed.
                    who was born
                    After another 40, the second tribe slaughtered the third.

                    What is the result?

                    Those who think about the purity of blood should be burned for utter stupidity. For stupid.
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 4 January 2020 02: 13
                      +1
                      You have a very philistine view of historical processes. So you are little different in this respect from adherents of pure blood.
                3. Binder
                  Binder 3 January 2020 22: 19
                  -14
                  Firstly, the Iranians are never Arabs, and secondly, we will not allow them.
                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 22: 39
                    +12
                    thirdly, you and the Arabs are one and the same; in the fourth, what are you chosen by God to decide who can and who cannot ?!
                    fifth, the resolver will fall off, once again you are bold and alive while the mattresses are behind
                    1. Robertocalos
                      Robertocalos 3 January 2020 23: 04
                      -14
                      Yes, yes, these are the mattresses that won three wars with a superior enemy many times over.
                      1. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 23: 35
                        +2
                        it’s good to fight when the back is propped up, and not always the Jews won
              2. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
                VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 4 January 2020 02: 27
                +2
                And who did Kim Jong-un ask? It is beneficial for the Americans to arrange a war. This is a business. They will not fight.
            3. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 21: 12
              +3
              Quote: Shurik70
              Iran will not test its atomic bomb. Although he will be threatened to do so.

              they will simply conduct "tests" at once on the spot, and for the Jews and two bombs above the roof
              1. Binder
                Binder 3 January 2020 22: 23
                -18
                Quote: Barmaleyka
                just carry out immediately "tests" on the spot

                Here I agree - these Persyukov wunderwafers will explode right in the storage areas and the problem of the "Iranian atom" will be solved at once.
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 22: 40
                  +4
                  don’t be afraid to deliver it, and the funny thing is, as soon as such a prospect looms up for you and others like you to rush to Russia
                  1. Robertocalos
                    Robertocalos 3 January 2020 23: 06
                    -17
                    And you, I see, are extremists. Articles are not afraid?)
                    1. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 23: 27
                      +3
                      an example of a call for extremism in the studio, or again, jump off, please?
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                      2. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 3 January 2020 23: 37
                        +6
                        Are you sick ?!
                        can not distinguish analytical reasoning from appeals? !!!
                        in case of danger and the presence of nuclear weapons in Iran, it can actually use it, and with a sufficiently powerful combat unit, two air explosions will really be enough for Israel
                        in which part of the text is the call? !!!
                      3. SovAr238A
                        SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 17
                        -11
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        Are you sick ?!
                        can not distinguish analytical reasoning from appeals? !!!
                        in case of danger and the presence of nuclear weapons in Iran, it can actually use it, and with a sufficiently powerful combat unit, two air explosions will really be enough for Israel
                        in which part of the text is the call? !!!

                        And you are spectacle ... cobra spectacle ... From the word point
                      4. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 4 January 2020 08: 14
                        +2
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        And you are spectacle ... cobra spectacle ... From the word point

                        ??
                        drink valerian, then throw yourself at people
              2. SovAr238A
                SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 16
                -7
                Quote: Barmaleyka
                Quote: Shurik70
                Iran will not test its atomic bomb. Although he will be threatened to do so.

                they will simply conduct "tests" at once on the spot, and for the Jews and two bombs above the roof


                Will they conduct something in their village?
                They all surrendered their little uranium reserves to Europeans and Russia ...
            4. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 3 January 2020 22: 47
              +1
              What the hell piece? How many nuclear charges does Russia have ?, how many do the USA have? Take an interest.
            5. Vadim237
              Vadim237 3 January 2020 22: 53
              +1
              And Iran most likely already did it - the DPRK is always at the second end of the wire.
              1. meandr51
                meandr51 4 January 2020 21: 26
                0
                Ostretsov constantly claims that Iran has a bomb.
            6. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 09
              -5
              Quote: Shurik70

              Reconciliation is more active with Iraq (although they fought for a long time, but now the enemy is common, we must put up with it)

              IRAAN was one of the first to divide IRAQ on religious grounds.
              Hussein uprooted all dissent trying to make Iraq a united nation, sparing neither Kurds nor Shiites. neither Sunnis, nor Alawites.
              Which by the way, no one forgave him.
              That is the first with the overthrow of Hussein. what Iran did was start the war of the Shiites of Iraq with all other Iraqi religions.
            7. dirk182
              dirk182 4 January 2020 03: 23
              +1
              Nothing like this will happen. Iran is torn apart by internal problems and everyone understands this. But we would have to think about how easily the Americans pulled it off. It took about 3 days to make a decision, develop and operate. No big words. They just did it. And if our people again make statements that "this is impossible, it violates the norms of international law ..." This Lavrov, with his international law, has actually died. The next such victims may be generals in Syria. We saw that the United States also has those. equipment and political will. The right of the strong. Whoever said what. This is the essence of our time.
          2. D16
            D16 3 January 2020 22: 06
            +1
            And they already have "Armor", as far as I know.

            You are wrong. The carapace was developed with money from the UAE. Saudia has nothing to do with this.
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 3 January 2020 19: 19
          +6
          when, at a BIG request, at a double or even a triple price, the producer country supplied complexes from its Armed Forces.
          It is impossible to supply complexes of the export version from its armed forces. And the delivery of a version "for oneself" is practically tantamount to the abolition of its own air defense.
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 January 2020 19: 21
            +4
            Quote: abrakadabre
            It is impossible to supply complexes of the export version from its armed forces. And the delivery of a version "for oneself" is practically tantamount to the abolition of its own air defense.

            Modern complexes are modular and replacing one module with another is not a big problem.
        3. bar
          bar 3 January 2020 19: 44
          0
          While our specialists will study the situation there, while the Saudis will be trained ...

          It is useless to educate the Saudis. To use "patriots" they were also probably trained, and what's the point.
          If the S-400 will be delivered there, then most likely with our own calculations.
        4. Boris Kolesnichenko
          Boris Kolesnichenko 4 January 2020 00: 04
          +1
          The shells are just the same, most likely, but only if the latest versions - they were imprisoned for drones, and even in control - there even a schoolboy will cope. And the C400 only needs to train specialists in good for a year, and it will be a little expensive to shoot with C400 on drones.
      2. DPN
        DPN 3 January 2020 22: 06
        0
        The market will judge everything, who will give more.
      3. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 05
        -2
        Quote: SRC P-15
        But nothing that there is not a weak queue for them?

        What is the turn?
      4. YOUR
        YOUR 4 January 2020 03: 13
        +1
        Just a question?
        Judging by your numerous comments on this subject, you are sleeping and see how Russia is selling weapons, which are short in the army.
        We have only 27 regiments armed with S-400, 54 air defense systems. None of the regiments have a complete set - 8 SAMs. I don’t understand why we should sell. Explain.
    2. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 18: 39
      +6
      I believe that the recent action near the US Embassy in Baghdad was not just a gesture of the population ... the Americans sensed something, since they decided to take such a step. Well, plus the "small victorious war" before the elections - this is very much in the spirit of amer presidents. The "liquidation" of Al Baghdadi did not have the desired effect in the media, since the ears of the photographer behind "terrorist number 1" could be seen with the naked eye. But the murder of an official is more interesting.
      1. svp67
        svp67 3 January 2020 18: 41
        +2
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        I believe that the recent rally at the US Embassy in Baghdad was not just a gesture of the population ...

        Yes, on their part there was an act against the execution of their people.
      2. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 3 January 2020 18: 55
        +5
        Or maybe you need a successful attempt on Trump?
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 3 January 2020 19: 05
          +3
          Quote: Rostislav White
          Or maybe you need a successful attempt on Trump?


          Is Putin again to blame? sanctions again?
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 3 January 2020 19: 35
            +3
            Quote: vorobey
            Is Putin again to blame? sanctions again?

            And who else. Fate .... fellow Russia and him, the hegemon officially appointed "all over the world, all over the world." Hello migratory! Sanya, glad to see you again on VO !!!
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 3 January 2020 19: 57
              +1
              Quote: Tersky
              And who else. Fate .... fellow Russia and its hegemon officially appointed,

              I just didn’t take into account that he was ... below the belt where he had a skullcap sad
              Vitya drinks During the holidays did not chop the wattle with a saber? But it’s worth understanding am to interfere laughing
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 3 January 2020 20: 01
                +3
                Quote: Ruslan67
                During the holidays did not chop the wattle with a saber?

                Hello to the representative of the muzzle-sliding squad! Not No. , but why not wave, I burned him to barbecue, and does not interfere, and with benefit for business good . Happy Ruslan! ! drinks !
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 3 January 2020 20: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: Tersky
                  , but why not wave, I burned him to barbecue, and does not interfere, and with benefit for business

                  And the wife is so happy that the chickens fled fellow lol
          2. Evil543
            Evil543 3 January 2020 22: 30
            +2
            What people!
            And when in the states? To each president a little war hi
            Trump has not yet unleashed a single one.
            1. businessv
              businessv 3 January 2020 23: 08
              +1
              Quote: Evil543
              Trump has not yet unleashed a single one.

              So until this morning it was, now - in doubt.
            2. Rostislav Bely
              Rostislav Bely 4 January 2020 00: 17
              0
              I think that the stamp about a small victorious war should be thrown into the wreck ... there are many more complicated routes and although it loses the course for Iran, it will lose the information and reputation equally - it will not be able to undertake the same in the near future - it’s just a war, but it won’t will do it - it’s not for nothing that the states have reconciled with the Taliban and so on - I don’t think that this is a primitive action for raising oil prices - though? (Recently, the joint exercise was Iran with Russia and China - but no one canceled the Strait of Malacca syndrome)
          3. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 4 January 2020 00: 24
            0
            Yes, you forget about the WTO and the rules of world trade, they were buried long ago by sanctions without UN sanction))) - this is carrot for a donkey, a way to overcome its stubbornness
            look for an analogy in the assassination attempt on Hitler
          4. Svarog51
            Svarog51 4 January 2020 10: 59
            +5
            Never mind! Got drunk! "All dreams come true in the New Year!" Happy New Year, Sanya! And you today with a personal one - so that there is everything! drinks drinks drinks
            There is no war! yes
        2. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 19: 06
          +3
          AND? Trump is a manager. You do not think that the largest economy and army in the world has been entrusted to Trump?)
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 4 January 2020 00: 02
            0
            You do not think that the largest economy and army in the world has been entrusted to Trump?)

            as an option to prevent civil war in the states (when they talk about illegitimacy for too long - it starts to materialize) - it plays on contradictions, or ...
        3. STORM 12
          STORM 12 4 January 2020 01: 56
          0
          can...........
      3. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 3 January 2020 19: 43
        -1
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        Americans sensed something, since they decided to take such a step.

        As always - "He knew too much."
        More recently, this general was an ally of the United States and fought with the Kurds against ISIS and disagreeable US groups. He sponsored and actively communicated with curators from the USA, was aware of the cash and arms flows coming to Syria.
        After completing his mission, he was recognized as a terrorist along with the "guardians of Islam." And now it's eliminated. US allies need to think about it. Too often, the States began to "throw" their allies.
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 January 2020 20: 32
          +5
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          More recently, this general was an ally of the United States.

          This general, since the "Islamic revolution", could not be an ally of the United States
          1. Ramzaj99
            Ramzaj99 4 January 2020 10: 14
            0
            Quote: svp67
            This general, since the "Islamic revolution", could not be an ally of the United States

            This is east. Not so happens there.
      4. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 3 January 2020 22: 42
        +10
        And what could be expected from the USA?
        WHAT?
        You forgot how they hunted Saddam Hussein and how they hung him ... by what court did they judge ??
        Have you forgotten how they destroyed the leader of Libya, Muammar Mohammed Abdel Salam Hamid Abu Menyar al-Gaddafi? .... And how rejoiced sitting in the white house and watching his atrocious murder ..
        ..And we are told that this is democracy .. that it is freedom
        The freedom to kill with impunity ??? Weak?
        The freedom to drive countries into blood and destruction?
        Sorry. But this is all called differently ....
      5. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 34
        -7
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        I believe that the recent action near the US Embassy in Baghdad was not just a gesture of the population ... the Americans sensed something, since they decided to take such a step. Well, plus the "small victorious war" before the elections - this is very much in the spirit of amer presidents. The "liquidation" of Al Baghdadi did not have the desired effect in the media, since the ears of the photographer behind "terrorist number 1" could be seen with the naked eye. But the murder of an official is more interesting.


        And the fact that the Americans just made it clear to Iran. what did he play?
        no? it doesn’t work out in your head?

        General who controlled all the anti-American attacks. operations, etc.
        Which culprit including attacks on the base and the embassy.
        Producer.
        who invented everything, organized everything and realized everything.

        Why shouldn't it be destroyed?
        Especially. this director himself came to the territory of a foreign state. to personally manage everything.

        what prevents to destroy it?
        just that he is the general of Iran?
        But he is a jackal general.
        And by American standards, must be destroyed.

        And if our people in Syria had luck and they would have destroyed the general of the UAE / Qatar / Turkey, who sponsors all these Islamic groupings, trains them, directs them - what would you say about his destruction by the Russian air forces?
    3. Pytnik
      Pytnik 3 January 2020 18: 47
      +6
      Preparations for launching ballistic missiles have been observed in Iran.

      According to information sources, Iran has begun preparations for the launch of ballistic missiles. This is evidenced by the abnormal activity at the launch sites, as well as the presence in the country's airspace of a large number of fighters, which may indicate that in the next 24 hours Iran could strike a massive blow at the location of American military bases and facilities throughout the Middle East.
      Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/v-irane-zamechena-podgotovka-k-pusku-ballistchieskih-raket
      1. svp67
        svp67 3 January 2020 18: 51
        -3
        Quote: Pytnik
        According to information sources, Iran has begun preparations for the launch of ballistic missiles.

        Once they did not go for it, at the time of the destruction of their passenger Boeing, and if they strike now, it will be their end. In the fight between the US and Iran, I am betting on the US. They will "roll out" Iran according to the "Yugoslav" model
        1. figwam
          figwam 3 January 2020 18: 55
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          I bet on the USA. They will "roll out" Iran according to the "Yugoslav" model

          They won’t succeed ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 January 2020 18: 57
            +2
            Quote: figvam
            They won’t succeed ...

            Alas, the forces are too unequal. And having no allies, Iran is doomed
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 3 January 2020 19: 14
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              And having no allies, Iran is doomed


              the treaty between the USSR and Iran of 1920 is in force ... The Iranians only suspended its effect
              1. svp67
                svp67 3 January 2020 19: 16
                +4
                Quote: vorobey
                the treaty between the USSR and Iran of 1920 is in force ... The Iranians only suspended its effect

                I repeat once again that UN sanctions apply to Iran, which Russia supported. And in this situation, how we will act is difficult to say
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 3 January 2020 19: 36
                  +5
                  Quote: svp67
                  Quote: vorobey
                  the treaty between the USSR and Iran of 1920 is in force ... The Iranians only suspended its effect

                  I repeat once again that UN sanctions apply to Iran, which Russia supported. And in this situation, how we will act is difficult to say


                  the appearance of another player with a nuclear club in this region does not suit anyone .. therefore, a compromise on the renunciation of nuclear weapons in exchange for military assistance will be convenient for everyone .. and the UN will close its eyes as well as on American tricks
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 3 January 2020 19: 42
                    +1
                    Quote: vorobey
                    and the UN will close its eyes as well as American tricks

                    Given who is in the Security Council, everything will remain as before ...
                    One thing it seems to me is that Iran will not go for direct confrontation, but they will have enough capabilities and strength to act "by other means".
                    1. vorobey
                      vorobey 3 January 2020 19: 58
                      +2
                      Quote: svp67
                      they have both the capabilities and strength to act "by other means".


                      Is Israel responsible for everything? wassat wassat by principle, you are closer and it’s unlikely that they’ll climb into the cabin for you ..

                      By the way, lifting the moratorium from the contract is one of the painful steps ...
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 3 January 2020 20: 04
                        +2
                        Quote: vorobey
                        Is Israel responsible for everything?

                        Yes, the list is extensive. The same Saudi Arabia with its oil fields.
                        And, of course, all the US PMCs that are now engaged in "dark affairs" there
                      2. vorobey
                        vorobey 3 January 2020 20: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: svp67
                        Yes, the list is extensive. The same Saudi Arabia with its oil fields.


                        three years ago, mine someone predicted oil at 200 US rubles
                      3. svp67
                        svp67 3 January 2020 20: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: vorobey
                        three years ago, mine someone predicted oil at 200 US rubles

                        You want to say that you decided to speed things up ...
                      4. vorobey
                        vorobey 3 January 2020 20: 40
                        +3
                        Quote: svp67
                        Quote: vorobey
                        three years ago, mine someone predicted oil at 200 US rubles

                        You want to say that you decided to speed things up ...

                        No, just sorting the chain like that. in Venezuela, it didn’t take control to take, some of the OPEC countries are in ruins and chaos, some still have a voice, Qatar and Ecuador left OPEC. Iran, bypassing sanctions, still sells oil, and if this triangle burns, then we can talk about eliminating OPEC and then we can forget about controlling and regulating oil prices, because the United States is already in first place in oil production in the world. and most importantly, China and Europe will suffer from high prices. and then you can repeat the trick with the USSR
                2. TAMBU
                  TAMBU 3 January 2020 19: 36
                  +1
                  Considering the price of oil and its importance for Russian capital, it is not difficult to predict how we will act ... we will express condemnation and perhaps even ... no, condemnation will end ...
                3. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 4 January 2020 00: 31
                  +3
                  Let's merge Iran? Do we need this?
              2. boss
                boss 3 January 2020 21: 34
                -2
                yeah, and now that they’re turned on?
                No, this feint will not roll, enough have suffered.
                maximum sale of weapons.
                Well, if volunteers rush straight?
              3. Altai72
                Altai72 3 January 2020 22: 17
                +1
                Well, where do you see the USSR?
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 3 January 2020 22: 54
                  -1
                  In a dream, the USSR is clearly visible.
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 4 January 2020 01: 45
                  -1
                  Quote: Altai72
                  Well, where do you see the USSR?


                  if you remember that the RF is the assignee of the USSR
        2. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 18: 58
          +5
          Or everything will be limited to "small" exchanges. The last thing Trump needs before the elections is for trains with coffins to start arriving from the other end of the globe. There will be no Yugoslavian model because:
          1. The experience of Yugoslavia is taken into account.
          2. Iran has a more or less modern air defense. And over 10 million bayonets.
          3. China is behind Iran and Russia is likely to stand.
          4. Iran will not reach the United States, but with a margin will reach Israel ... everyone understands this.
          I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, I am writing my thoughts. For Iran, "eating" such a slap in the face is even worse than answering loudly ... this is not forgiven in principle.
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 January 2020 19: 01
            +4
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            Trump before the election is least of all necessary for trains from the other end of the globe to arrive with coffins.

            The United States now has enough strength to hammer Iran with missile and air strikes for a long time, without introducing ground forces. And in Iran itself there are many separatist movements. The USA will simply drive Iran into the "stone age" and then support its collapse into several states
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 19: 04
              +2
              The United States was 15-20 years late with this. They cannot destroy Iran as safely as they did with Iraq. Times are not the same. Russia is not that, China is not that. From Russia to Iran through the Caucasus surpass, this is so, by the way.
              1. svp67
                svp67 3 January 2020 19: 07
                +3
                Quote: Black_Jacket
                From Russia to Iran through the Caucasus surpass, this is so, by the way.

                But nothing that Russia and China voted at the UN for sanctions against Iran, namely for the supply of weapons. And they have not been canceled.
                For us, the strengthening of Iran is also "not korosho" ...
                1. Black_Vatnik
                  Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 19: 09
                  +6
                  Strengthening Iran is not as scary for us as the transformation of Iran into a walk-field with igilas, al-Qaeda and other Boko-harams. I repeat, from Russia to Iran one can lend a hand through Azerbaijan.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 3 January 2020 19: 12
                    +5
                    Quote: Black_Jacket
                    I repeat, from Russia to Iran one can lend a hand through Azerbaijan.

                    Everything is possible. In general, you can reach Ukraine with a "finger", but nothing more ...
                    1. Black_Vatnik
                      Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 19: 14
                      +3
                      It seemed to me, or are you now comparing a Chubat Bandera with an Islamist beaten off to the head? A completely different scale of threat, a completely different level of danger.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 3 January 2020 19: 17
                        +6
                        Quote: Black_Jacket
                        It seemed to me, or are you now comparing a Chubat Bandera with an Islamist beaten off to the head?

                        I do not compare, I specifically put an equal sign. For Russia, they are both dangerous
                      2. TAMBU
                        TAMBU 3 January 2020 19: 38
                        -2
                        Well, here who beat off the whole head - this is a moot point ... as for me they are equal
                      3. Black_Vatnik
                        Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 20: 06
                        +7
                        Banderlogs are for the most part cowardly and flawed Natsik. When the Nazis wanted to make them look like military formations, it turned out that they could not fight at a word at all and were only fit to burn peaceful villages, kill women and the elderly. Islamists on martyrs fly at checkpoints, blow themselves up at subway airports, etc. etc. And ideology is set there very strongly. Do not compare louse with hornet.
                      4. svp67
                        svp67 3 January 2020 20: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Black_Jacket
                        When the Nazis wanted to make them look like military formations, it turned out that they could not fight at a word at all and were only fit to burn peaceful villages, kill women and the elderly.

                        Excuse me, but "Nachtigall" is still a parable in the tongues of our military. And he was formed from them. And now the situation has changed a lot, among Bandera's supporters there are many people from Belarus and Russia
                      5. TAMBU
                        TAMBU 3 January 2020 20: 45
                        0
                        And when did it burn villages, kill children, women and the elderly became a nicer pastime than the explosion of a military or infrastructure facility? Contradict yourself ...
                      6. Black_Vatnik
                        Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 20: 55
                        +1
                        No, I do not contradict. It is strange that you do not trace the difference. I don’t want to go to the checkpoint in a car filled with explosives, I need some kind of rod inside (even if in this case this rod is the result of a brainwashed), and to drive unarmed children and women into the house and burn it, courage is not needed, for the woman and child will not give change. Do you know many cases when Bandera bombed themselves in the subway, etc.? The question is rhetorical.
                      7. svp67
                        svp67 3 January 2020 21: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: Black_Jacket
                        In order to call at a checkpoint in a car filled with explosives, I really need some kind of rod inside (even if in this case this rod is the result of a brainwashed), and to drive unarmed children and women into the house and burn it, courage is not needed, for the woman and child will not give change. Do you know many cases when Bandera bombed themselves in the subway, etc.?

                        And nevertheless, their ideology has now ripped away not only part of the territory from us, but part of the population, which was originally Russian from birth. And wait, if this "infection" is not strangled again, then it is quite possible to expect the appearance of suicide bombers on our territory.
                        On the territory of Ukraine, there are already quite a lot of young "cubs"
                      8. TAMBU
                        TAMBU 3 January 2020 21: 18
                        0
                        our dialogue is not about which one of them is morally cooler, but about which one of them has a more broken head. We live by burning a crowd of people ... that screams in a language that is well understood by you, you know you need to have a first-class brown slush in your head ... about the same as those who enter the checkpoint at dynamite ... so there is no difference between them. And some enemies and others.
                      9. Black_Vatnik
                        Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 21: 27
                        -2
                        Well then go back to the beginning, there you will find my reasoning about who is more dangerous. The experience of recent years will give a clear answer to these considerations.
                      10. TAMBU
                        TAMBU 3 January 2020 22: 00
                        0
                        It seemed to me, or are you now comparing a Chubat Bandera with an Islamist beaten off to the head? A completely different scale of threat, a completely different level of danger.

                        Whose experience and how much is this - "recent years" should give me an answer to your reasoning? Let me explain: I usually form an answer in the process of reasoning, since they are started for the answer. In general, comparing the level of threat between village arsonists and martyrs is somehow not correct ... for a farmer in the Kuban, so probably Ukrainian Natsiks are both more real and more terrible, but for a soldier at a checkpoint, so surely a martyr ... ? If we compare - then they are one and the same and are called in one word - the enemy, and the reasoning which of them is more repulsed and who is less - will lead to Kolya from Urengoy, in the end ...
                  2. abrakadabre
                    abrakadabre 3 January 2020 19: 24
                    +4
                    from Russia to Iran one can lend a hand through Azerbaijan.
                    Until Iran, you do not need to pull your hand through the mountains. It is much more efficient to pull cargo barges across the Caspian Sea.
                2. Uncle Izya
                  Uncle Izya 3 January 2020 20: 51
                  +3
                  This does not apply to defensive weapons, and on October 20, sanctions for the supply of weapons expire and Russia and China may not support the extension
                  1. Sergey M. Karasev
                    Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 14: 32
                    0
                    Quote: Uncle Izya
                    This does not apply to defensive weapons, and on October 20, sanctions for the supply of weapons expire and Russia and China may not support the extension

                    By October 20, I think everything will be decided.
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 3 January 2020 19: 09
            -8
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            4. Iran will not reach the United States, but with a margin will reach Israel ... everyone understands this.

            Please in more detail, especially in reserve.
          3. maden.usmanow
            maden.usmanow 3 January 2020 19: 42
            -5
            What are 10 million bayonets?
            Well, do not write nonsense.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 3 January 2020 20: 14
              +3
              If you take the regular troops, the IRGC and Basij, then in the region of 10 million it will work out.
          4. Saxahorse
            Saxahorse 3 January 2020 20: 20
            -10
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            3. China is behind Iran and Russia is likely to stand.

            Between Israel and Iran, today's Russia will always choose Israel. Iran is not deceived about such an ally.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 4 January 2020 00: 45
              +2
              A very bold statement. I think between Israel and Iran, the Russian Federation will choose its interests. laughing
          5. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 41
            -6
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            Or everything will be limited to "small" exchanges. The last thing Trump needs before the elections is for trains with coffins to start arriving from the other end of the globe. There will be no Yugoslavian model because:
            1. The experience of Yugoslavia is taken into account.
            2. Iran has a more or less modern air defense. And over 10 million bayonets.
            3. China is behind Iran and Russia is likely to stand.
            4. Iran will not reach the United States, but with a margin will reach Israel ... everyone understands this.
            I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, I am writing my thoughts. For Iran, "eating" such a slap in the face is even worse than answering loudly ... this is not forgiven in principle.


            Iran will collapse after 300 KR ...
            No one will stand up for Iran.
            Neither China nor the Russian Federation.
            Modern air defense in Iran is not in principle.
            He will not reach Israel - he has no air force from the word at all.
            10 million bayonets? Why not 50 million?

            And half of the Arabs / Persians will not fight in principle.
            They just do not know how to fight. They are only capable of riots. which in no way makes Arabs / Persians / Muslims fighters.

            No one and no way to call. Iran is a bubble that works only on its sponsored factions.
            And if he gives them an order to all leave, then they will roll him out and clean up the groups.
            And there will be nothing left of the ayatollahs, and their pathos.
            Govnostrana. Bubble.
            1. Russian jacket
              Russian jacket 4 January 2020 04: 29
              +3
              Hmm ... The brutality of the statements is just off scale. Especially about the shit ... Beautifully said. Excellent justification for a new Holocaust. Not for the Jews, but for the Persians. In general, VO has recently turned into something like "Medusa" and others. Disgrace ....
            2. Uncle Izya
              Uncle Izya 5 January 2020 20: 33
              0
              Why did you decide that?
              Russia and China will supply weapons vryatli Russia and China want Amer bases on their borders
        3. yfast
          yfast 3 January 2020 19: 17
          0
          Well, the United States is shy just to kill a few million Iranians, the world will not understand. The end will be a little short.
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 January 2020 19: 49
            +4
            Quote: yfast
            Well, the United States is shy just to kill some millions of Iranians

            There may be Iranians, but "terrorists" ...
            Quote: yfast
            the world will not understand.

            Most of the world doesn't care what happens there, except that oil prices will go up. And they will see and tell what Hollywood will show them
        4. Local from the Volga
          Local from the Volga 3 January 2020 19: 22
          +2
          Do you want crowds of martyrs in New York and Tel Aviv?
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 January 2020 19: 50
            0
            Quote: Local from the Volga
            Do you want crowds of martyrs in New York and Tel Aviv?

            In New York it’s possible, but in Tel Aviv it’s unlikely that there can be loners, but there will definitely not be a crowd
        5. g1v2
          g1v2 3 January 2020 19: 53
          +8
          Yugoslav will not work. Persians are now much more monolithic. And they are unlikely to surrender as quickly as the Serbs. Again, the technological level of the Iranian military-industrial complex is higher than that of then Yugoslavia. The Persians are accustomed to sanctions and it is unlikely that the Americans will be able to drop their standard of living on the Maidan.
          The United States, of course, can defeat Iran, but it just won’t. The advantage of mattresses is that they can use the Saudis, Israel and their allies in the database. None of the lower forces in the region have enough ground forces. So - there will be an exchange of blows. I think the Persians are ready for him. And without a ground invasion, war is unlikely to be fast.
          In principle, we can try to benefit. If the Persians defeat the At Tanf base, then no one will be surprised. Again, if they block the movement of mattresses into Syria and back. It is possible that the Americans may decide to evacuate their people from Syria, so as not to make them a target.
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 January 2020 20: 31
            +5
            Quote: g1v2
            Persians are now much more monolithic.

            Sorry, but more recently in Tehran there were strong unrest, which the IRGC suppressed with difficulty. In addition there
            Iranian Azerbaijan, where separatist sentiments are strong. Since March 2002, the leader of the South Azerbaijan separatists, former professor of Tabriz University Mahmudali Chekhrani, has been hiding in Baku. In the past, the Iranian leadership’s attempts to extradite Chekhragan have failed
            Kurdish separatism
            Baloch separatism
            Arab separatism
            Talysh separatism
            Masenderan separatism
            Lurian separatism
            Gilan separatism
            Bakhtiar separatism
            Lak separatism
            Turkmen separatism
            Iran is full of contradictions.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 3 January 2020 20: 49
              +6
              Well, the Americans can organize the unrest - there, even in the PRC, they succeeded. But under the conditions of an external threat, they are unlikely to be able to rock Iran. And of these separatisms, most exist in the form of conversations. The IRGC has long learned to speak with Kurds. Epic with Kirkuk witness to this. Of course, Azeri in Iran seems to live more than in Azerbaijan, but I don’t remember any speeches, not chatter of the intelligentsia over the past 20 years. If Chekhragani posed any danger, the IRGC would have got it. I don’t remember any really serious separatist actions in Iran over the past 20 years.
              In general, most of these separatists are not dangerous. We had a bunch of them all over the country. In order to turn them into something serious, you need an organizational center, systematic work, resources and weapons. Again, the IRGC is quite capable of paying off any of their performances.
              But on the contrary, the IRGC is quite capable of arranging its counterparts on hot days. Hezbollah to Israel, the Hussites and the Shiite underground to the Saudis. Shiite militias in Iraq - American bases in it.
              We will see. Again, it is worth taking into account the American election. Of course, a small war before the election may be useful to Trump, but a full-blown conflict will not play in his favor.
            2. Uncle Izya
              Uncle Izya 5 January 2020 20: 40
              0
              Yes, it remains only to wonder how he could resist, the USSR could not
        6. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 3 January 2020 19: 55
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Pytnik
          According to information sources, Iran has begun preparations for the launch of ballistic missiles.

          Once they did not go for it, at the time of the destruction of their passenger Boeing, and if they strike now, it will be their end. In the fight between the US and Iran, I am betting on the US. They will "roll out" Iran according to the "Yugoslav" model

          No, they can destroy the country, but to win ... This is debatable. They haven’t echoed the Taliban for 19 years, despite the fact that it has no aviation, no fleet, no missiles, no air defense.
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          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 4 January 2020 00: 50
            0
            Are you sure that they generally need a victory over the Taliban?
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 4 January 2020 11: 09
              +2
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Are you sure that they generally need a victory over the Taliban?
              The victory of the Americans in Afghanistan today is not a question at all. This topic can only be considered in the context of the defeat of the Americans. Nowadays, mattresses are more concerned with how to get on skis and get out of Afghanistan with the least military and reputation losses. If until recently they were close to being able to negotiate with the Taliban, now, after the assassination of Suleymani, it is not at all a fact that the Iranians will let them do it on their terms and will probably use their ties with the Taliban so that the mattresses suffer the greatest losses. The fact that in 2019, in Afghanistan, the Americans lost only 20 soldiers, will seem to them flowers. Would sit at home
              1. Uncle Izya
                Uncle Izya 5 January 2020 20: 41
                0
                Well America overseas problems will begin in Central Asia and Russia
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 5 January 2020 21: 04
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Izya
                  Well America overseas problems will begin in Central Asia and Russia

                  You are probably hinting that the Taliban and the Ishilovites will trample within your specified limits? There are two points. The first is that the Taliban leadership at one time made a statement that it has no interests in the North outside of Afghanistan and the second is that the Ishilovites for the Taliban are the same invaders who, if the Americans leave, they will clean up very quickly. There are from 3 to 4 thousand pieces. The US-Igil incubator that they prepared in Afghanistan for the purposes you indicated will be closed.
          3. Michael HORNET
            Michael HORNET 4 January 2020 14: 20
            0
            But how can one “win” if one does not set such a task at all?
            What the USSR, what the USA DON'T PUT "the task of defeating"
            Hence the logical result
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 3 January 2020 19: 08
        +2
        Quote: Pytnik
        Iran could strike a massive blow at the location of US military bases and facilities throughout the Middle East.


        Well then, after some time, we will have to take a turn at the military registration and enlistment offices .. the shock wave will reach us too.
      3. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 4 January 2020 01: 36
        -4
        Quote: Pytnik
        may indicate that over the next 24 hours, Iran could strike a massive blow at the location of US military bases and facilities throughout the Middle East.


        It testifies only to that. that Iran is preparing for a big pipets ...
        He will fly so that he just breaks up.
      4. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 January 2020 09: 44
        +1
        Pytnik (alexey) Yesterday, 18:47 ... that over the next 24 hours, Iran could strike a massive blow at the location of US military bases and facilities throughout the Middle East.

        And this will be the 3rd world.
    4. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 3 January 2020 18: 50
      +1
      The bubble will either burst inside the Mattress or burst out. Outside, opponents oppose the mattress that has stained.
    5. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 3 January 2020 18: 54
      -1
      Spouse in St. Petersburg, asked you to "plus". Plus.
      He is logged in there on a smartphone, but he reads everything.
    6. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 3 January 2020 20: 49
      0
      Well, it’s unlikely that Trump will not want extreme before the elections on the nose.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 January 2020 09: 48
        0
        Uncle Izzy (Ruslan) Yesterday, 20:49
        0
        Well, it’s unlikely that Trump will not want extreme before the elections on the nose.

        Western media are strenuously making amendments to the fact that the order for rocket attacks was given by EXACTLY trump. I think this is not in vain?
    7. YOUR
      YOUR 4 January 2020 03: 10
      +1
      I would like to avoid these interesting events.
    8. Reklastik
      Reklastik 4 January 2020 13: 53
      0
      Of course, thermonuclear power plants, life up to 200 years, landing on Mars))) But what about the consequences - have you ever heard of the elimination of American generals / military for their actions, well, at least the same Iranian military? Me not. They will say, diplomats will exchange notes and everything will be as before, even better) I would be surprised if I made a mistake.
  2. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 3 January 2020 18: 31
    +3
    the elimination of the IRGC General is capable of generating what the Iranian nuclear bomb most feared in Iran and the United States and in Israel.
    This is called pulling a tiger by a mustache.
  3. Livonetc
    Livonetc 3 January 2020 18: 32
    +4
    Trump is building his image of a hawk before the election.
    To the whole world do not care.
    It's nothing personal.
    The old mattress tradition
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 January 2020 18: 32
    -2
    I will not be happy if the same Pakistanis, for example, sold the Persians or helped to create nuclear weapons! And a Yankee tambourine, something will easily fly! The United States is overseas, but in the region there is the same Saudi, the chain dog of the United States, and "turning off" the Arabian dynasty by shooting members of the Karol family is also a strong move against US policy in the region.
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 January 2020 18: 34
    +1
    At the same time, Riyadh will ask the United States not to impose CAATSA sanctions against him, since the complexes are required "immediately to protect against Iran." And the United States, as the author writes
    And here we have the good news to sell, although, knowing the Arabs .. it is better not to get involved initially ..
  6. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 3 January 2020 18: 36
    -7
    Everything is quite convincingly written, but with the last paragraph I allow myself to disagree. Iran has been moving towards the creation of nuclear weapons for more than ten years. And the death of Suleymani in no way affects this. The only thing that holds Iran back is technological and economic problems.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 January 2020 18: 40
      +3
      Aron, between us, has long been rumored that the Saudis simply bought nuclear weapons from Islamobad. And why not the Persians in that bazaar stock up on nuclear warheads, at least? Moreover, the Persians have been making rockets themselves for a long time already.
      1. Russian jacket
        Russian jacket 4 January 2020 04: 35
        +2
        I agree with you, but with one amendment. Only technological. When necessary, some rulers spit on the economy. And technologies, albeit with a creak and overpayment, will appear sooner or later. But I’m more interested in Netanyahu’s reaction. He supported the murder, but will he again tear to Moscow, as happened? hi
    2. krillon
      krillon 3 January 2020 18: 55
      +9
      But nuclear weapons have appeared in you too. At China, Pakistan, North Korea. Yes, not in one day, but nonetheless. In fact, Iran is pushing to acquire them. And this is another reality. And there is nothing good in this, they will pass the nerves, start throwing bombs, and there the others will not remain on the sidelines. The Americans are far away, you have to rake. In Hiroshima did not understand where the peaceful, where the military ..
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 January 2020 19: 22
      +7
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Everything is quite convincingly written, but with the last paragraph I allow myself to disagree.

      You can write whatever you want, convince everyone and everyone, but I will tell you one thing, "The situation is nowhere worse, and it needs to be extinguished." And you are not in a very enviable position right now. I always thought that your people are sane, but I look and you get carried away.
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 3 January 2020 19: 37
        0
        Preparations for launching ballistic missiles have been observed in Iran.

        According to information sources, Iran has begun preparations for the launch of ballistic missiles. This is evidenced by the abnormal activity at the launch sites, as well as the presence in the country's airspace of a large number of fighters, which may indicate that in the next 24 hours Iran could strike a massive blow at the location of American military bases and facilities throughout the Middle East.

        http://avia.pro/news/v-irane-zamechena-podgotovka-k-pusku-ballistchieskih-raket?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
        Is a new Alia coming? It seems that here the whole region will explode.
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  7. megadeth
    megadeth 3 January 2020 18: 38
    -1
    The US is acting, and we are always worried ... Iran will not be able to do the FSA ... nothing.
    1. classic46
      classic46 3 January 2020 20: 32
      0
      hezbollah has a lot of missiles, they have already lowered Israel and continue to lower it, and even the vaunted American aviation doesn’t help Jews very much
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2020 22: 58
      +2
      Iran is armed with thousands of OTRK and BRRS missiles, as well as cruise missiles and kamikaze tactical drones - all US military bases within a radius of 2000 kilometers will be lightweight.
    3. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 4 January 2020 14: 24
      0
      Yes, you go, sign up as a volunteer in the local Iranian SS - IRGC, what is the sofa to sit out?
  8. demo
    demo 3 January 2020 18: 38
    +8
    All right said the German edition of FAZ.
    Just forgot something else.
    Americans walk on the ground. In different countries. And most of them are unguarded.
    And I won’t be surprised if in the next day or two a couple of three Americans, who are not quite simple, give their soul to God.
    Or maybe Brussels will be shocked by explosions of martyrs-mobiles?
    I am silent about Israel.

    Only this country could do so, hoping for the intercession of the Americans.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 January 2020 09: 51
      0
      demo (Van) Yesterday, 18:38
      +8
      All right said the German edition of FAZ.
      Just forgot something else.
      Americans walk on the ground. In different countries. And most of them are unguarded.
      And I won’t be surprised if in the next day or two a couple of three Americans, who are not quite simple, give their soul to God.
      Or maybe Brussels will be shocked by explosions of martyrs-mobiles?
      I am silent about Israel.

      Only this country could do so, hoping for the intercession of the Americans.
      Unfortunately, the mericatos will take this as a declaration of war.
      1. demo
        demo 4 January 2020 13: 58
        0
        And here we go.
        Let's look at how the Iranians will quickly begin to act.
        Let's look at how Americans will perceive this.
  9. NF68
    NF68 3 January 2020 18: 42
    +6
    In Iran, even without this, using the example of North Korea, they have long understood that the presence of nuclear weapons quickly cools even hotheads from the United States.
  10. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 3 January 2020 18: 45
    +4
    It seems that the mattresses have jumped .... To be a bomb! And it, the bomb, will be made specifically for comrades from the USA ..... The finger will constantly hang over the button ...... I think if that, many will contribute to the fact that the United States ceases to exist as a gigimon. By and large, mattresses are more than Hitler shit all !!!!!
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 3 January 2020 18: 52
      +7
      Hitler is "resting" compared to the stained mattress.
  11. Sars
    Sars 3 January 2020 18: 45
    0
    The Pakistani military officially promised nuclear weapons to Iranians in the event of US or Israeli aggression.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 January 2020 18: 49
      +2
      It is possible that it has already been there for a long time!
  12. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 3 January 2020 18: 50
    +3
    Somehow Israel remained on the sidelines. You can’t sit behind the wall.
  13. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 3 January 2020 18: 50
    +3
    To be honest, I would also be very offended by the Persians.
    Of course, I understand everything, there is politics, the US national interests, etc., but it’s absolutely so frank to go out of control - it’s no longer in any way.
    And at the expense of the nuclear program, I remembered today how a series of "accidents" with nuclear scientists took place in Iran ten years ago, then, after all, in a strange way, car accidents, or bricks once a week poured on their heads, because of which Iran lost key specialists ...
  14. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 3 January 2020 18: 50
    +5
    Something modern world, not childish kamatozit!
    And they blame Russia, Iran, etc.
    But in fact there are conflicts everywhere, where the States launched their tentacles, Ukraine, Venezuela, Iraq, Syria, Hong Kong, Afghanistan, etc.
  15. megadeth
    megadeth 3 January 2020 18: 51
    -14
    As usual, they will punish Russian pensioners.
  16. cniza
    cniza 3 January 2020 18: 56
    +4
    the elimination of the IRGC General is capable of generating what the Iranian nuclear bomb most feared in Iran and the United States and in Israel.


    Naturally, this is the only way to protect Iran.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 3 January 2020 19: 30
      0
      Naturally, this is the only way to protect Iran.
      Only in conjunction with one or another semblance of the "Perimeter" system. It doesn't matter whether it is automatic or organizationally distributed. Otherwise, the link that makes the decision on the nuclear response may be beheaded.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 January 2020 20: 31
        +1
        If they could have done it, they can only in third countries, as shown.
  17. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 January 2020 19: 20
    +15
    I apologize for being rude, but did the star-striated ones get completely insane ?! On the territory of a third state to eliminate a high official of a foreign country? And do not even try to portray repentance (like: the special agent was mistaken, they planned to kill the superterrorist, but they killed the general, our condolences to the family and friends, etc.) ?!
    M-d ... What can I say? If the Lord wants to punish anyone, he destroys the mind.
    1. Seaflame
      Seaflame 3 January 2020 19: 28
      +2
      There, recently, the attack was on an Amer military base; an Amer soldier was killed. They (the Americans) claim that this happened with the support of the IRGC.
    2. svp67
      svp67 3 January 2020 19: 30
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      On the territory of a third state to eliminate a high official of a foreign country?

      In the United States, the IRGC, and even more so, its special forces are included in the list of terrorist organizations, so for the United States it is the elimination of a terrorist.
      Since April 16, 2019, the United States has officially considered the Iranian militant organization, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, a terrorist organization.

      And you were not surprised that in the September 11 terrorist attack, the American court "discerned" the "Iranian trace" and fined about $ 10,5 billion to a group of American insurance companies and relatives of the victims
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 January 2020 19: 42
      0
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      M-d ... What can I say? If the Lord wants to punish anyone, he destroys the mind.

      The situation is overwhelming, trash.
    4. Evil543
      Evil543 3 January 2020 23: 39
      0
      This Skripal can be blamed for us, but they are exceptional, they can do anything. Sarcasm
    5. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 4 January 2020 14: 29
      -2
      And why are these crocodile tears? Declare immediately your love for the clerical fascist regime of Iran, what are these reservations for? Imagine that it was with the help of a drone that the Russian Federation eliminated, for example, the head of the Right Sector, which appeared on the territory of the DPR. Will you also shed tears and stigmatize?
  18. nznz
    nznz 3 January 2020 19: 24
    +3
    bomb to be. this is the only way.
  19. Seaflame
    Seaflame 3 January 2020 19: 27
    +2
    The appearance of nuclear weapons by the ayatola with his ideas of a "holy" war and "infidels" is definitely not needed by anyone in the world!
  20. Basarev
    Basarev 3 January 2020 19: 36
    -6
    If Iran has a bomb, then it will simply be arranged for another Opera operation, without waiting for the appearance of carriers. And at the same time they will remember all the other tricks and will not forgive anything.
  21. gorenina91
    gorenina91 3 January 2020 19: 56
    0
    Elimination of the IRGC general may lead to the appearance of Iranian nuclear weapons


    - If only China will help Iran in this matter ...
    -Although it is unlikely ... -China needs only Iranian hydrocarbons .. and he doesn’t give a damn about everything ...- like the Iranians themselves ... -Even if an armed mess suddenly breaks out in Iran itself .. here China will stay away ... -as well as in Venezuela ...
  22. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 3 January 2020 19: 57
    -1
    If it gets hot, the main thing is to stay away for as long as possible so that the Chinese fit in ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2020 23: 02
      -2
      But the Chinese will not fit in - they need to deal with the riots in Hong Kong.
  23. Kerensky
    Kerensky 3 January 2020 20: 05
    -2
    ... blocking the Strait of Hormuz.

    Most likely scenario. You can always "turn on the back" if with a minimum number of victims.
    And then what is it:
    At the same time, it can even be beneficial for Trump,

    "Don't throw me into the thorn bush!"
  24. rocket757
    rocket757 3 January 2020 20: 09
    +2
    Theoretically, steep porridge is brewed. Let's see if she spills out into the practical plane. Everything is very dumb.
  25. MelkorAintGood
    MelkorAintGood 3 January 2020 20: 10
    -8
    Better tell me why on this site Iranian terrorists are publicly supported, who in addition are radical Islamic fanatics? May the United States continue this sacred mission, we better
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  26. classic46
    classic46 3 January 2020 20: 13
    0
    It seems to me that here you need to look at the conflict in another plane. Everything is in YAO, the Americans limit the number of countries that can use it. Firstly, Israel, no matter how hard it tries to talk, it’s not there. Secondly, even Japs close to the US body , they replaced Fukushima, and they really wanted to grow a baton. Thirdly, even the Turks kebabs were taken out of the base. Not to mention Libya and Iraq. sho it is clear that they do not have everything with yao smoothly. France seems to be trying to amb a new life and his cr yao, but it is also quietly rasshatyvayut.Vpolne logical that they would eventually drove Iran.
    1. Connor MacLeod
      Connor MacLeod 3 January 2020 20: 25
      +1
      Quote: classik46
      It's all about yao, the Americans limit the number of countries capable of applying it.

      The number of countries possessing nuclear weapons is not limited to the United States, but to the Non-Proliferation Treaty ...

      Quote: classik46
      Firstly, Israel, no matter how hard it tries to talk about it, doesn’t have it.

      Have you ever heard of Mordechai Vanunu?
      1. classic46
        classic46 3 January 2020 21: 20
        0
        Well, when Israel uses nuclear weapons, then it will be seen.
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 13
    +7
    US actions are destabilizing the situation in the Middle East. And the Trump administration clearly did not take into account that Iran is not Syria, in which they frolic with impunity for more than a year. Suleymani, by the way, is considered in his homeland the “father of victories” over ISIS * terrorists in Syria. A terrorist organization created, armed, and funded by the Americans.

    Trump’s order to liquidate General Suleymani in Tehran was perceived as an attack on Iran. Even Israel, whose insolence knows no bounds, did not dare to swindle at this. It is likely that Trump is thus preparing for the upcoming elections, planning to organize his “victorious war” and move on to a second term. A stupid undertaking and obviously a failure.

    All that the Americans have achieved is angered Iran’s supreme leader Ali Khamenei, who promised to avenge the States for the assassination of the general. President Rouhani has confirmed that the Americans will pay for it.
  28. Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 January 2020 20: 19
    0
    The red-headed pontorez decided to play for future elections. So now the amers will have to walk and look around. They will not forgive the general.
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 22
    0
    All movement will begin after the election of trump. I represent what numerous delegations of business circles of Europe, Southeast Asia and other hydrocarbon buyers will rush to Iran to hold the Persians in their hands and prevent an escalation of the situation. Those who started this provocation miscalculated. The world has become very pragmatic and such an incident of Belli will not reach its goal.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 3 January 2020 20: 24
      +2
      Fomkin’s, as always, so that the USA doesn’t do it, then lose
      1. Gennady Fomkin
        Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 27
        +1
        They got into my shit head over heels without me. laughing
    2. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 14: 50
      0
      All movement will begin after the election of trump.

      Why should the Persians wait for the US election? Revenge, of course, is a dish that is served cold, but how until the fall to explain the lack of action without the risk of losing face?
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 23
    -2
    They say Iran has some kind of submarine. And what are they armed with? laughing
  31. Yang yangov
    Yang yangov 3 January 2020 20: 29
    +8
    if the Iranians "pacify" Bibi and Trump forever .. I think very few people in the world will be upset)
  32. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 30
    0
    Iranian Defense Minister on the assassination of Soleimani: "We will take revenge on everyone who is involved"

    Iranian Defense Minister Amir Khatami said Friday, January 3, that the response to the assassination in Baghdad of General Qasem Soleimani would be "crushing revenge", Reuters and IRNA reported.

    "We will take revenge on everyone who is involved in his murder and is responsible for it," Khatami said. laughing
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 31
    -1
    Be that as it may, the Persians are making n ...... very nervous. Indeed, in fact, they are not ready for war, and aircraft carriers and tomahawks will last only for a week, after which the undercut American infantry in Iraq and Syria will have to be transported for a lot of money laughing
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 3 January 2020 20: 33
      -4
      Yes, you are completely out of touch with reality
  34. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 20: 37
    +2
    Quote: Chingachguk
    Bomb to be!

    Five years later - maybe. But not tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Iranians must either restore the number of old-type centrifuges (IR-1), or start mass production of newer centrifuges. but in any case it’s not a single month’s business, and maybe not even one year’s

    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    I apologize for being rude, but did the star-striated ones get completely insane ?! On the territory of a third state to eliminate a high official of a foreign country? And do not even try to portray repentance (like: the special agent was mistaken, they planned to kill the superterrorist, but they killed the general, our condolences to the family and friends, etc.) ?!
    M-d ... What can I say? If the Lord wants to punish anyone, he destroys the mind.

    What to do, Andrey. If there remains one superpower in the world, then complexes of permissiveness begin to manifest in it. And most often sober voices are not heard. Although of course God forbid if it begins. Moreover, the countries of the region will begin to participate in this fire.

    Quote: Basarev
    If Iran has a bomb, then it will simply be arranged for another Opera operation, without waiting for the appearance of carriers. And at the same time they will remember all the other tricks and will not forgive anything.

    Opera makes sense if there is no bomb yet. If there is a bomb (God forbid, that this was not), then they already have carriers
    1. Connor MacLeod
      Connor MacLeod 3 January 2020 20: 45
      -1
      Quote: Old26
      Five years later - maybe. But not tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Iranians must either restore the number of old-type centrifuges (IR-1), or start mass production of newer centrifuges. but in any case it’s not a single month’s business, and maybe not even one year’s

      Well, they can make a "dirty" bomb (a radiological one among the common people) very quickly.
  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 January 2020 20: 48
    -2
    Quote: Kronos
    Yes, you are completely out of touch with reality

    Judging by you, you live parallel reality laughing
  36. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 20: 50
    +2
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Be that as it may, the Persians are making n ...... very nervous. Indeed, in fact, they are not ready for war, and aircraft carriers and tomahawks will last only for a week, after which the undercut American infantry in Iraq and Syria will have to be transported for a lot of money laughing

    And how long will Iran last if a serious mess starts? Or again, how during the Iran-Iraqi boys will be sent to minefields? The Americans have enough Tomahawks. At least Iran. It is not a problem to bring aircraft carriers to the entrance to the Gulf of Oman and gradually move as the Iranian anti-ship missiles are destroyed in the Strait of Hormuz. And there are allies for the coalition
    The Iranian army is large, but equipped with a mass of various weapons, which does not add strength to its potential. And non-contact methods, the Americans will break it. In a month, two or three - but they’ll break it. Or there will be the same generals as in Iraq during the last war.
    Aviation is a team hodgepodge of the mid-80s, and often not modernized. Fleet - several ships such as a frigate and a destroyer, which should be able to defend themselves. There are many "Mosquito Fleets", but their performance characteristics are extremely low. The only thing that will get to the neighbors is from Iran's missiles. At the first stage. Then the hunt for launchers will begin. And taking into account the fact that the number of launchers is limited and the number of missiles is many times less (the North Korean scheme for building missile forces), swotting with missiles will not last long. Moreover, a limited number of missile systems will reach Israel ...
    1. classic46
      classic46 3 January 2020 21: 17
      +3
      Well, how's it going in Yemen, like a lot of people gathered, but the cards are still not beaten? Well, or what about the Middle East NATO? Or is it better with a hezbollah? Otherwise, the Jews, even with the vaunted American kr and aviation, can’t beat everything. They fled from Lebanon, throwing a stoked Merkava like guano.
  37. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 20: 53
    +1
    Quote: Connor MacLeod
    Quote: Old26
    Five years later - maybe. But not tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Iranians must either restore the number of old-type centrifuges (IR-1), or start mass production of newer centrifuges. but in any case it’s not a single month’s business, and maybe not even one year’s

    Well, they can make a "dirty" bomb (a radiological one among the common people) very quickly.

    They can. But it will still need to be delivered to the goal. Iran has almost no aircraft capable of delivering it to its target. The superiority of aviation in the neighboring is multiple. Use a rocket for delivery, so the MS is very small, plus what kind of blasting method to use?
    1. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 15: 05
      0
      They can. But it will still need to be delivered to the goal. Iran has almost no aircraft capable of delivering it to its target. The superiority of aviation in the neighboring is multiple. Use a rocket for delivery, so the MS is very small, plus what kind of blasting method to use?

      But a cargo ship under the Panamanian flag will dock in Haifa. And what about the fact that a month before that he was in Abadan, although this is not necessary. And explode, obscuring isotopes of half of Israel. and that’s it ... And no regular delivery vehicles are needed.
      You can also blow up a container or a truck. Goal for fiction is cunning. bully
      1. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 18: 09
        0
        Minus, you have to understand, for telling the Persians the idea of ​​delivering a dirty bomb to the target? And then they, oh, without me would not have guessed! Or because the idea is unrealizable? Well, enlighten where I am mistaken than to minus from under the silence!
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 18: 35
          -1
          Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
          the idea is unrealizable

          Your "idea" is initially stupid. Security service in Israel works much better than you can imagine. I know examples of this, not by hearsay.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 18: 48
            0
            I also know, but after all, there’s a trickle on an old woman. 100% guarantee is given only by God. And in the US, is SB equally effective?
            By the way? And how can you remotely determine the presence of a "dirty bomb" in a lead shell under the bottom of the ship?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 18: 52
              0
              Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
              And how can you remotely determine the presence of a "dirty bomb" ...

              About the same as, for example, the fact that a person trying to enter Israel with a "clean" passport, a month ago, was, say, in the OAU.

              So see? wink
              1. Sergey M. Karasev
                Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 19: 04
                0
                Not quite.
                Mossad has been able to track the routes of every ship in the world since it was built. So what? What if Iranian combat swimmers stick a "dirty bomb" to the bottom of a regular scheduled ferry from Cyprus right on the high seas? They have sabotage submarines. They can also do it right in the Cypriot harbor. There, the control of the water area is not the same as in Haifa.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 19: 07
                  -2
                  Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                  Not quite

                  Bad. request
                  1. Sergey M. Karasev
                    Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 19: 12
                    0
                    The bad thing is that you write half-hints at all or nothing.
                    Is it not fate to express your arguments more clearly?
                    Or are they really not there, but admitting yourself wrong is also not fate? winked
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 19: 18
                      -4
                      Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                      Is it not fate to express your arguments more clearly?

                      I do not see the point. You are bored, and hunting is scratching your tongue ... well, scratch it. Without me.

                      Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                      to admit his wrong is also not fate?

                      Practice is the criterion of truth. How many dirty bombs have been exploded in Haifa? That's right ... not one. Sapienti sat.
                      1. Sergey M. Karasev
                        Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 19: 29
                        +1
                        How many dirty bombs have been exploded in Haifa?

                        "Everything ever happens for the first time" (c)
                        Well, the Palestinian barmalei did not pick up the right amount of radionuclides. And families live in their neighborhood. And Iran is far away, but with isotopes easier there.
                        I do not see the point. You are bored, and hunting is scratching your tongue ... well, scratch it. Without me.

                        And why then tried to write something, if in fact they still did not write anything? Boredom? So which of us is bored?
                        Drain counted! good
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 19: 36
                        -5
                        Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                        Drain counted

                        Shkolota.
                      3. Sergey M. Karasev
                        Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 19: 41
                        0
                        Shkolota.

                        You, citizen, take a look at my avatar first. Am I too old for a student? So the insult is not counted wassat
                      4. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 19: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                        Am I too old for a student?

                        I would say - even a superstar laughing

                        But the fact that you are portraying here - age has nothing to do. It is rather a state of mind request

                        Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                        insult is not counted

                        This is not an insult, it is a statement of fact.
                      5. Sergey M. Karasev
                        Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 19: 48
                        0
                        That is, in essence, you have nothing to say, so you turned to the individual. Do you think it colors you?
                      6. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 5 January 2020 20: 02
                        -2
                        Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                        essentially nothing to tell you

                        You have already been told everything, "in essence": your children's speculations in the existing reality unrealizable.

                        Your "personality" does not interest me in the least. Leave alone already stop
                      7. Sergey M. Karasev
                        Sergey M. Karasev 5 January 2020 20: 08
                        0
                        Yes, not a damn thing is said, not one distinct explanations! I’m not your close friend and your hints of something they don’t tell me anything! Do not want to properly explain, and do not! I see no further sense in correspondence.
                        Goodbye stop
  38. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 20: 58
    0
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    They got into my shit head over heels without me. laughing

    They have three old Soviet boats of project 877. And several dozen mini-boats, which are armed with 1-2 torpedoes. With very little autonomy. And if the Americans do not immediately climb into the bay, and they are hardly stupid enough to do this, then forcing these boats to leave the base once, they can put a big and fat cross on them. especially considering where such a base is located.
    The Americans will ensure control over the airspace, and after that the destruction of such boats, as well as the "mosquito fleet", will be a matter of time.
    1. Liam
      Liam 3 January 2020 21: 04
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      . And if the Americans do not immediately climb into the bay, and they are hardly stupid enough to do this, then by forcing these boats to leave the base once, they can put a big and fat cross on them

      Why such difficulties? The doctor forbade the Americans to smash all this gay stuff to smash right on the base and not arrange all these strategies?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2020 23: 12
      +1
      The United States will have to prepare for such a long time pumping up its bases in the region with equipment and people - Irin will not miss such preparations for sure how many Iran has no launchers, but it is known for certain that some of them are hidden under mountain ranges, and their own air defense does not stand still .
    3. KCA
      KCA 4 January 2020 05: 49
      0
      In Yemen, somehow it was not very successful to fight the mosquito fleet, just by some miracle the USS "Cole" did not go to the bottom
  39. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 21: 00
    +2
    Quote: Connor Macleod
    Have you ever heard of Mordechai Vanunu?

    It is unlikely that he heard about such a person laughing
  40. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 21: 09
    +2
    Quote: Liam
    Why such difficulties? The doctor forbade the Americans to smash all this gay stuff to smash right on the base and not arrange all these strategies?

    Well, this is easier said than done. After all, the same mosquito fleet is focused on more than one naval base. Therefore, it will not work to destroy it with one or two missiles. Unless they will be with YaBG. But the USA does not have such "Tomahawks" now. And cruise missiles with nuclear warheads on strategic bombers ... It is unlikely that the Americans will use them first. They will try to delay their use or arrange such a grandiose provocation that no one would say anything against using tactical charges against Iran. But I hope it doesn't come to that ...
    1. Liam
      Liam 3 January 2020 21: 20
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      After all, the same mosquito fleet is concentrated not on one Navy. Therefore, to destroy it with one or two missiles will not work

      Do you have infa that the United States is strained with the Kyrgyz Republic? Why with one or two missiles and not hundreds of the other like they always did?

      Quote: Old26
      Unless they will be with YABG

      Be afraid of God .. I understand that the holidays and in general on this site are all thrown YABG and when the traffic light switches to red .. but the measure you need to know all the same
  41. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 January 2020 21: 26
    +1
    I think it’s easier ... someone can start to deliver ATGMs and MANPADS to Afghanistan and other places where the US ears stick out. And there are many such places. It will not be expensive and tangible. And all this Iran itself produces. And the clones of Tou and CORNET and Arrows 2.
  42. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 21: 32
    +2
    Quote: Liam
    Do you have infa that the United States is strained with the Kyrgyz Republic? Why with one or two missiles and not hundreds of the other like they always did?

    Comrade! It is unlikely that Iran's mosquito fleet will be targeted by Tomahawk-class cruise missiles. The Americans have no strains with the CD. It was here that someone wrote that they were straining with the Tomahawks, but not me. The mosquito fleet is now dispersed over several bases, and during a period of tension it will generally "dissolve" at a dozen bases, parking lots, and piers. After all, a boat with two anti-ship missiles with a flight range of 15 km is not a destroyer that just can't be put at any point. Therefore, the most likely situation is when the Americans will have to "chase" the mosquitoes with aircraft (airplanes or helicopters). You can strike at the base not with 1-2 missiles, but with a dozen. But what will be the effect of such a blow. That's the question. Of course, for some time, both the mosquito fleet and the coastal anti-ship missiles will be knocked out, but not immediately. The primary goal will still be the Iranian air defense ...
  43. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2020 21: 34
    +2
    Quote: Liam
    Be afraid of God .. I understand that the holidays and in general on this site are all thrown YABG and when the traffic light switches to red .. but the measure you need to know all the same

    As you may have noticed, I am not at all in favor of the use of nuclear weapons in this region. But to destroy the base with 1-2 missiles is possible only if they are with a special unit. And fortunately the United States has very few such missiles and they are mainly on the B-52. I don’t really imagine the situation when the B-52 goes hunting for a missile boat in Iran
    1. Avior
      Avior 3 January 2020 21: 55
      +1
      If the Americans have air superiority, the mosquito fleet will not last long, they will knock it out as they go out to sea by helicopters
  44. Sunstorm
    Sunstorm 3 January 2020 21: 59
    -4
    maybe .. and maybe not, gypsies, ai nane, nane?
    Ah yes Experts.
    If you have not declared war and have not dealt a blow so far, then everything has already been decided and the bidding is just going on.
    And about nuclear weapons, well, ok to appear? And what difference does that make? So the Americans are afraid to attack Iran. That the Iranians waving nuclear weapons to attack Israel? No. No one in their right mind would use nuclear weapons to attack. Although stop ... Yugoslavia - depleted uranium, Hiroshima and Nagasaki "kid" and "fat man" ... And all these plans to use low-power charges ... But I said so "no one in his right mind."
  45. 1536
    1536 3 January 2020 22: 09
    0
    The atomic bomb does not save terror and terrorists. Today, terrorism of individual states and groups of states united in certain military blocs is the main threat to peace and human security.
    1. Old Michael
      Old Michael 4 January 2020 00: 55
      +1
      Dear 1536!
      As in the well-known anecdote, "my thought is even more the same than yours!"
      But here's the bad luck: a defective practice has developed at VO - regardless of the arguments, the conclusion must be chewed; joke, irony, sarcasm - to designate unambiguously in plain text; philosophical reasoning - brighten up with the remark "well, I have already taken a little on the chest." Otherwise, a handful of minuses are guaranteed ...
  46. Dima_Anlim
    Dima_Anlim 3 January 2020 22: 12
    +5
    The United States is going to directly escalate the conflict with Iran - this was precisely the reason for this provocation with the assassination of a general. Its task is to provoke Iranian authorities to some kind of military stupidity in the region against the United States. Then the United States and Israel will launch large-scale missile attacks on Iran, its military and industrial infrastructure, bases, ports, warehouses and command centers. No direct invasion of the country. This is exactly the scenario the United States has chosen and are preparing for it. Eliminate Iran from the political and military scene once and for all. Who supported the United States in killing an Iranian general? Israel is the first on the list. From here and all the movements.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2020 23: 16
      -1
      Neither the United States nor Israel will have enough striking power, since there are not enough resources for this at the moment, Iran is not Syria.
  47. donavi49
    donavi49 3 January 2020 22: 23
    0
    Meanwhile, the Americans are going to solve the issue of the presence of Shiites in Iraq - radically. Pompeo said the following goals are ready:
    Announces US to designate Iranian proxy force Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq in Iraq and its leaders, Qays and Laith al-Khazali as terrorists.

    I wonder if they will survive until the weekend, or is it soaked at night?
    1. asv363
      asv363 3 January 2020 23: 59
      +2
      Quote: donavi49
      Pompeo stated

      This inadequate man managed to say that the Iraqis rejoiced at the killing of Suleimani.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 4 January 2020 00: 49
        0
        Well, given the wars of Iraq with Iran and that Suleimani participated in them, it’s quite possible
  48. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 3 January 2020 22: 24
    -4
    I don’t get tired of reading comments on VO.)
    Many people really think that Iranians should respond equally to the States. Sorry what?
    Why don't many see the difference between the US and Iran? As they like to write here - "Pug and Elephant".
    Iran can’t do anything in this situation at all, because if it gets haywire, they will simply bite it. Too different forces between the USA and Iran. It is the same that a girl of about 15 will go to bullish on Valuev.
  49. Pavel57
    Pavel57 3 January 2020 22: 52
    +3
    Perhaps this is a multi-step, we see only part of the game.
  50. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 3 January 2020 23: 23
    +4
    Iran's response (read the IRGC) will most likely not be open. It's just that "someone's" UAVs (flying, floating ...) will attack US citizens or objects, probably even around the world ...
    1. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 4 January 2020 14: 49
      0
      Dada, but what will prevent the USA from declaring Iran responsible for this, regardless of the presence or absence of evidence