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Erdogan approved the sending of the Turkish military to Libya

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan finally approved the bill to send the military to Libya. Now it has full legal force. This was reported by the Turkish government publication Resmi Gazete.


The day before, on January 2, it was approved by the Great National Assembly (Parliament) of the country. According to the Turkish publication Sozcu, at the first stage of the transfer of military units is not provided. First, military instructors will be sent to Libya to train fighters of the Government of National Accord (PNS) located in Tripoli. The next step could supply to Libya weapons Turkish production.

Such a decision by Erdogan was not unexpected, because he repeatedly said that he would provide military assistance to the Government of National Accord, if asked.

At the moment, Libya is in a state of dual power. The western part of the country and its capital Tripoli are controlled by the PNS, officially recognized by many countries. The leader of this government is Faiz Saraj.

The east of Libya is led by a temporary cabinet led by Abdullah Abdurrahman al-Thani and the parliament. These forces are also supported by the Libyan National Army, commanded by Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 January 2020 17: 53
    +3
    Do not send someone somewhere, but drive the filthy broom of mattresses from BV. Then grace and peace will come.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 3 January 2020 18: 11
      +10
      Quote: NEXUS
      Do not send someone somewhere, but drive the filthy broom of mattresses from BV. Then grace and peace will come.

      Who is against, only it (the broom) must still be collected winked . And, on the BV alone - sheikhs, shahs and princes ...
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 3 January 2020 18: 16
        +6
        Quote: Terenin
        Who is against, only it (the broom) must still be collected


        as an advertiser ... purchase T90 SUVs and C400 systems from trusted suppliers. wassat wassat VKS to help comes as a bonus
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 3 January 2020 18: 23
          +4
          In a civil war, external intervention only exacerbates conflict
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 3 January 2020 18: 42
            +3
            Quote: Shurik70
            In a civil war, external intervention only exacerbates conflict


            But shaw, before the advent of the Americans there was a war there?
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 3 January 2020 18: 45
              +2
              Quote: vorobey

              But shaw, before the advent of the Americans there was a war there?

              I'm talking about the intervention of the Turks.
              And as for the Americans - where they are, there is always war (with the exception of those places where their property is)
              1. mammadov teymur
                mammadov teymur 6 January 2020 10: 10
                -1
                in addition to the Turks who were called there, there are still uninvited among whom mother Russia
        2. cniza
          cniza 3 January 2020 18: 24
          +2
          Quote: Terenin
          . And, on the BV alone - sheikhs, shahs and princes ...


          And everyone wants to snatch only for himself.
        3. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 3 January 2020 18: 25
          +4
          Quote: vorobey
          as an advertiser ... purchase T90 SUVs and C400 systems from trusted suppliers.

          And Haftar already has "Shells", though delivered not by us, but by the sheiks (or maybe with our help). yes
          1. Glory Ponomarev
            Glory Ponomarev 3 January 2020 21: 59
            0
            The Saudis set up, though it’s not clear why it is against the Hussist’s missiles, they don’t use them at home.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 3 January 2020 22: 48
              0
              Quote: Slava Ponomarev
              The Saudis set

              Do they have any? It was adopted by the United Arab Emirates, not Saudi Arabia.
        4. Thrifty
          Thrifty 3 January 2020 18: 35
          +1
          Sparrow hi (Sashka) - they would also build a decent fleet! Of a pair of dozens of the same corvettes, such as those that Vietnam buys from us!
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 3 January 2020 18: 39
            +4
            Quote: Thrifty
            Sparrow hi (Sashka) - they would also build a decent fleet! Of a pair of dozens of the same corvettes, such as those that Vietnam buys from us!

            Well, as if let Chinese comrades be attracted too
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 3 January 2020 18: 43
              +1
              Sparrow hi -so this is money. Why do we give the Chinese a contract? We are not so rich that we can turn our nose from a good profit! !!
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 3 January 2020 18: 51
                +3
                Quote: Thrifty
                Sparrow hi -so this is money. Why do we give the Chinese a contract? We are not so rich that we can turn our nose from a good profit! !!


                I agree with you, but on the other hand
                1. we are currently short of building resources.
                2. strategically it’s more important for us now to close the Northern Sea Route and provide
                3. the fleet is already offensive weapons and START 3 should be extended to us (let Trump persuade the Chinese comrades)
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 3 January 2020 19: 33
                  +2
                  Quote: vorobey
                  strategically, it is more important for us now to close the Northern Sea Route and provide

                  These are the words of "Husband".
        5. Terenin
          Terenin 3 January 2020 19: 34
          +8
          Quote: vorobey
          Quote: Terenin
          Who is against, only it (the broom) must still be collected


          as an advertiser ... purchase T90 SUVs and C400 systems from trusted suppliers. wassat wassat VKS to help comes as a bonus

          laughing good
    2. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 3 January 2020 18: 52
      +1
      Erdogan will have to "push hard" - I think so Mattresses want to push the Kurds in Iraq with the Shiites to a conflict, something like independence and a big raskirdash
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 3 January 2020 19: 56
      0
      Will not come. There are enough of their contradictions. Iran’s confrontation with an alliance of Saudis and Israelis alone is worth it. Tch region rather on the brink of fire. With or without mattresses.
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 3 January 2020 17: 58
    0
    Such a departure will not add peace to the region for sure ... But you cannot sit back ...
    1. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 3 January 2020 19: 20
      -2
      wassat and if algeria wants to occupy the livia? well, purely hypathetically
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 January 2020 18: 03
    +2
    "If I were a sultan, supported the war" - the desire to be a regional god of brains does not add to something!
    1. Karen
      Karen 3 January 2020 18: 43
      -3
      Yes, no ... If the Turks can organize the emigration of one hundred thousand of them there, then it is very peaceful so 6 million. Arabs will be assimilated over time ... It is strange that they did not do this when the Libyans were only 2 million.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 18: 57
        +6
        25% of the population of Libya with Turkish roots. The same Faiz Saraj has Turkic roots. His ancestors from the Turkish city of Manisa, pro-pro-grandfather of the Ottoman Empire, who left for the 17th century to serve in Libya ..
        1. Karen
          Karen 3 January 2020 19: 08
          -4
          Oguz, it seems to me that your military will be secretly sent there to gain military experience ...
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 20: 29
            +4
            Rather, financial support, and then indirectly. The soldier will not be sent, definitely. There, and so porridge, it’s not worth shining.
            1. Karen
              Karen 3 January 2020 20: 47
              -4
              With a large mix of reputational losses, no one will look back ...
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 21: 22
                +5
                It's not about reputation. There big players are involved and can direct their anger to small countries. As the saying goes, "I couldn't saddle the horse, I started kicking the saddle, viciously" Azerbaijan is investing a lot of money in the Turkish economy. I think it will continue in the same spirit , with strengthening. It also helps with good discounts on gas and oil, for Turkey. That is, not directly, but for the brotherly country does everything in its power.
                1. Karen
                  Karen 3 January 2020 21: 26
                  -4
                  Let's talk about this in two years ...
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 21: 31
                    +4
                    What do you expect in 2 years? And why not a year, or three years?
                    1. Karen
                      Karen 3 January 2020 21: 36
                      -3
                      It seems to me that you will start a war against us in three years ... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think so ... Well, before that, Libya will be a good training ground for you ... Turan, you all need to build ...
                      1. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 21: 43
                        +2
                        Turan does not build us, and there is no such goal. This is an ideology for the countries of Asia and Turkey to build good relations, recalling their roots. This is normal. And Azerbaijan, regardless of this idea and ideology, will liberate its occupied territories .
                      2. Karen
                        Karen 3 January 2020 21: 48
                        -2
                        Your territories in Central Asia ...
                      3. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 21: 55
                        +3
                        And yours in India, and the next in Cilicia ...
                      4. Karen
                        Karen 3 January 2020 21: 58
                        -2
                        Nothing connects us with India, and we took Cilicia from the Greeks, because they contributed to the fall of Ani ... Here our wars with the Greeks over Cilicia led to the Turks gaining strength ...
                      5. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 22: 12
                        +3
                        lol The Turks were strong from the very beginning and never obeyed anyone, unlike the "heroes of Cilicia." Nothing has changed over the millennia, who is strong, and remained as such, and who was always in submission, so they have survived to this day.
                      6. Karen
                        Karen 3 January 2020 22: 25
                        -2
                        The Turks didn’t come here strong ... It’s just yours who were very lucky: the filth of the warriors of Allah, who killed the Persians in the 7th century, because of which the Turks migrant workers in this territory could rise ... And then luck went ... from ours wars with the Greeks ... Do not forget that in the Battle of Manazkert, the Oguzes were just hired by the Greeks ... But the night singing before the Seljuk battle told them to go to the side of the Turks ... After winning the battle, the Seljuks invited all the trash of BV to participate in the robbery ....
                        And then you were even luckier - Jews sniffed at the Turks ....
                        Only a hundred years ago, Ataturk was asked about his nationality ... His answer shows a lot about your Jewish-Turkish tandem ...
                      7. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 22: 48
                        +3
                        "And then you were even more lucky - Jews smelled the Turks ..." Sorry, after such a written nonsense, it seems that they were not sniffing, but you were sniffing something hallucinatory fellow
                      8. Karen
                        Karen 3 January 2020 22: 50
                        -2
                        We have already discussed here about this bunch ... there is no desire to repeat ...
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 January 2020 18: 08
    +4
    The main thing is not to get involved in this conflict.
    I hope our mining companies did not enter this flaming country with their projects.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 January 2020 19: 35
      +2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      The main thing is not to get involved in this conflict.

      Clever words.
  5. svp67
    svp67 3 January 2020 18: 09
    0
    Everything is more wonderful and wonderful ... Now it remains to find out what and whom the Turks will send there
  6. gorenina91
    gorenina91 3 January 2020 18: 21
    -2
    Erdogan approved the sending of the Turkish military to Libya


    -Erdogan is bluffing ... -If Erdogan sends troops to Libya .. then very soon for the Turks he will cease to be a national leader ... -It’s one thing in your region, a stone's throw from the Turkish border, what you want ...
    -A different thing ... -Try to do something like this overseas, on another continent .. where the Turkish army can easily sit in a puddle ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 January 2020 18: 54
      +3
      Why? He has a real chance to make Turkey an energy superpower. If his mega-project does take off.

      This is not only that development in Libya. So also, most of the Libyan deposits will go to Turkish companies. Plus, Turkish contractors (builders, etc.) - will receive the exclusive right to projects in Libya. The last cowards were removed from Saranj there before finally fitting in for him.

      Therefore, if it takes off, it will immediately become at the level of the magnificent Suleiman. wink
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 3 January 2020 19: 28
        -2
        Why? He has a real chance to make Turkey an energy superpower. If his mega-project does take off.


        -In order for "his megaproject to take off" .., Erdogan needs to somehow sit on several chairs ... -While Erdogan's entire "sphere of activity" extended within the limits of Turkey's regional influence .. then Erdogan somehow still succeeded ( and then with the help of Russia) ... -Bluff with the Americans, with Russia, Iran., in Syria, etc.
        -But if Erdogan really gets into Libya, then here for him a completely different game will already start ...
        -And in this game Erdogan no longer has trump cards ... -Russia cannot support him in any way; and Americans can even defiantly publicly slap Erdogan (of course, by someone else's hands); and. if in his region Erdogan could somehow hide the fact that Iran is clearly not his "friend", then in Libya this will no longer be possible; and in Libya itself, historically, the Turks are traditionally "not welcome" ...
        -And Edogan is simply elementary ...- there is no money for the transfer of troops to Libya, and even more so ...- for waging at least some kind of war, at least for a short time ...- Yes, and the military operations of Turkey in Libya under a big question ... -After all, the Americans can throw well-trained Kurds there ...- try to distinguish them from various local Libyan tribes ...
        -So .., Erdogan is unlikely to dare to land his troops in Libya ... -This will be the beginning of the "decline" for him ...
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 3 January 2020 20: 43
          0
          bluff with the Americans, with Russia, Iran., in Syria and so on.

          Bluff? well, they actually have really very strong positions there, almost the strongest of all the players.
          Russia here can no longer support him

          Does he need the support of Russia? Does Russia itself have a position in Libya? Is she in general able to support anyone there at all?
          And in this game, Erdogan no longer has trump cards

          Army + navy + proxy + pocket government are not trump cards?
          And Edogan is simply elementary ...- there is no money for the transfer of troops to Libya, and even more so.

          Oh oh don’t count other people's money.
          After all, Americans can throw well-trained Kurds there

          Science fiction writers smoke peacefully aside
          -So .., Erdogan is unlikely to dare to land his troops in Libya ... -This will be the beginning of the "decline" for him ...

          Yeah, well, yes, I just asked parliament for permission.
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 21: 29
            +5
            I would also add that today Algeria sent 2 frigates to the shores of Libya to support Saraj. That is, Algeria is already close to Turkey. Tunisia is not open, but will support the Turks. These countries are direct neighbors of Libya from the west.
            1. Altai72
              Altai72 3 January 2020 21: 59
              +3
              Qatar is also with the Turks. Yes, and still surprised Lebanon))
        2. mammadov teymur
          mammadov teymur 6 January 2020 10: 39
          0
          you don’t judge by yourself you don’t figure out who is who and at the moment there they will determine who and where. in Afghanistan, Soviet warriors sent spies to the Pashtun camp from the same Tajiks, like a tongue, too, but only the heads of spies (without a body) sometimes tied to a grenade from a grenade launcher returned. not immediately the warriors dopped what was the matter, but the fact was that the spies were not taught to write (emphasis on the first vowel) as befits a Muslim.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 January 2020 21: 26
      +5
      "where the Turkish army can easily sit in a puddle ..." ////
      ----
      Once Libya is the place where the Turkish army can shine.
      Hartaf’s troops are not particularly strong. They can be effectively taken to flight.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 3 January 2020 21: 51
        +2
        They’re already losing their nerves. They showed that in Dubai they found the journalist dead, who asked the Khavorovsky general about a gun that made them the laughing stock on social networks.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTMiqvrHWLI
      2. gorenina91
        gorenina91 4 January 2020 07: 48
        0
        -Yes .. flashing your heels ...
        -It is unlikely that the Turks will succeed in Libya ...- something real and for a long time ...
        -It is even good if Turkey at first disengages and enters into a rage in Libya ...
        - The main thing is for Turkey to get bogged down deeper in Libya ... - Libya is not Syria .. where you can throw pebbles to a neighbor over a fence and climb into his "garden" and take anything there ...
        - The main thing is that Turkey is firmly stuck in Libya ... -And it doesn’t matter ...- who starts to win there ... Haftar or Saraj ... -no difference ...
        -East (in this case, African Arabic "north-east") .., and so the East is a vile business (for some reason everyone likes to write that "a delicate matter" - they saw "White Sun of the Desert".) ..., therefore, in the East, only one very cruel satrap is always needed ... - let someone there secretly (secretly) support or finance or somehow stimulate, etc., but it should only be one idol. ... - in the singular ... - like S. Hussein or something like that ...
        -And Erdogan coped with this role ... but only at home ...
        -And in Libya, where he seems to be going ... -he already had a whole bunch of "comrades-in-arms" and "fellow travelers" and "financiers" and so on ... -And all of them for now, for a while, can support Erdogan ... but this is very, very short ... -And then it will simply be merged ... -Yes, they will simply surrender it ...- easy and simple ... -Americans and Israel are just waiting for the "right moment" for this ...
        -And if Erdogan really gets into Libya, then his song will be sung ... -Oh ...
        -To this I can add that personally I am for him to get in there ...
        -But, unfortunately ...- Erdogan is quite cunning and continues to bluff ... -Unfortunately ...
  7. cniza
    cniza 3 January 2020 18: 22
    +2
    Erdogan approved the sending of the Turkish military to Libya


    Well, the Sultan went after his dream, but what will he get?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 January 2020 18: 48
      +3
      Well, Haftar’s New Year offensive has choked again. Sudanese did not help and surrendered again.


      Already transported about 2000 Syrian broads with light weapons from:
      Ahrar al-Sham
      Sukur al-Sham
      Jays Al Ahrar

      As well as Turkish Kataib.




      Now they will go by the navy and soldiers, without covering by civilian sides.

      Plus, on the 6-10th there will be maneuvers of the Navy of Algeria (also fit for Tripoli) and Turkey. Algeria sends 2 frigates to the shores of Libya.

      For the PNS total - the UN (well, it's nobody), Turkey with troops, Qatar with money and services for hiring meat / purchasing any, Algeria gunboat diplomacy, Italy - intelligence and politics.

      For Hafatar - the UAE is very tough (Sudan Express, advanced weapons, and more and more UAEshny holiday instructors). Egypt - previously it was only on the training, support and sale / gifts of all stale junk from stocks (MiGi21, Mi-8, T-55, howitzers, babies, KPVT, Zushki, etc.). Expansion of participation to strikes and targeted operations is now under consideration with the consent of Haftar / airspace control. France is politics, plus any supplies + if the field marshal is about to die again, his French will again pump them out. Russia - but again, the level of participation is unclear, photo-video with Russian-speaking fighting guys is not an indicator of participation.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 January 2020 18: 52
        +1
        if the field marshal is about to die again, then his French will again pump out. Russia - but again


        The US still supports him and they will arrange a big war there.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 3 January 2020 20: 48
          -1
          The US still supports him and they will arrange a big war there.

          USA Hatafa? How is it? Well, actually stocking up with popcorn and waiting for the development of events. The question is how seriously Egypt is ready to fit in there. And who is ready to really fight on the side of Khataf.
  8. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 January 2020 18: 27
    0
    The Turks send, the Americans are threatening the same ... the batch in Libya is getting closer
  9. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 January 2020 18: 39
    +6
    Libya takes on the function of the battlefield and no one asks for consent .. but recently, this country built water pipelines in the Sahara and did not let the refugee shaft into EUROPE ..
  10. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 3 January 2020 18: 42
    -1
    Erdogan approved the sending of the Turkish military to Libya
    The Sultan approved the decision of the sofa. It’s ridiculous. fellow
    about sending the military to Libya.
    True, the ISIS are definitely military.
  11. knn54
    knn54 3 January 2020 18: 42
    0
    At the request of a government recognized by the UN and contrary to UN Security Council Resolution No. 1970.
    At the same time, Ankara is considering the possibility of transferring militants from Syrian-controlled groups to Libya. About 300 fighters of the Sultan Murad and Al-Mutasem groups arrived in Libya by BTA from Turkish Gaziantep.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 3 January 2020 20: 49
      -1
      Is it really easier to breathe in Syria?
  12. Evil Booth
    Evil Booth 3 January 2020 19: 23
    -2
    negative to both crowds morons It would be nice for strategists to estimate the real time and cost of their adventures and get into a chtoli contract. or here they’ll send pure divisions to the last secretary.
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 January 2020 19: 25
    -2
    They have little problems with Syria?
  14. Dart2027
    Dart2027 3 January 2020 19: 31
    0
    Perhaps he thus wants to expose from Syria the remnants of the militants that he needed against the Kurds.
    1. Glory Ponomarev
      Glory Ponomarev 3 January 2020 22: 06
      -1
      But with the Kurds, is the issue resolved?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 3 January 2020 22: 45
        +2
        Quote: Slava Ponomarev
        issue resolved unless

        They have no chances against the Turkish army, and the United States refused to help them, so the need for cannon fodder is not critical. On the other hand, Russia and Iran are quite active in Syria, and although Turkey has its own interests, which do not always coincide with them, Erdogan is unlikely to need surprises that will aggravate the situation. If my reasoning is correct, then send to Libya weakly controlled thugs the most logical solution.
      2. mammadov teymur
        mammadov teymur 6 January 2020 10: 54
        0
        and the Kurds came under the complete control of Damascus, that is, if their rocket again flies to Kilis (a city like that in Turkey translated into the Russian Church) then there will be questions to Damascus about this, there is someone to ask
  15. point3d
    point3d 4 January 2020 00: 48
    +2
    Good luck to all parties equally))
  16. Positiv
    Positiv 4 January 2020 09: 19
    0
    Well, what can I tell you Erdogan, Allah to help .. I hope you put things in order? Or just send troops to shoot?
    1. atalef
      atalef 4 January 2020 09: 22
      -1
      Quote: Pozitiv
      Well, what can I tell you Erdogan, Allah to help .. I hope you put things in order? Or just send troops to shoot?

      Only here is a small nuance.
      Erdogan does not support at all those whom Russia supports.
      those. the likelihood of a clash between Turkish aircraft and Wagner PMCs is absolutely real.
      1. Positiv
        Positiv 4 January 2020 09: 36
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Only here is a small nuance.
        Erdogan does not support at all those whom Russia supports.
        those. the likelihood of a clash between Turkish aircraft and Wagner PMCs is absolutely real.

        Let's agree .. Turkey is not Israel with the USA ..! hi
        And it’s time to restore order in Libya, democracy has already got everyone ...
  17. Earth
    Earth 4 January 2020 09: 57
    -1
    Battlefield Libya.
    Judging by the participants, nothing is changing. Free energy loot and controversy sponsors