Sohu: After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine lost a huge military-industrial potential


The Chinese media decided to discuss the problems of the Ukrainian military industry. In particular, we were talking about the actual industrial degradation of Ukraine after the Soviet Union ceased to exist.


The Chinese portal Sohu notes that after the collapse of the USSR in Russia and Ukraine, volumes of the military and space industries comparable in scale remained. However, since the beginning of the 1990s, Ukraine has gradually lost the industrial facilities of the defense complex, and this process has only worsened in recent years.

From an article in the military section of the mentioned resource:

In recent years, the military industry of Ukraine has faced a very serious crisis - the brain drain crisis. On the one hand, this is due to a poor internal regime. Even for the most talented representatives of the industry, salaries remain low, not allowing specialists to lead a relatively prosperous life.

It is noted that many Ukrainian citizens are characterized by a salary of around $ 200 (12-13 thousand rubles), while specialists in the military-industrial complex receive about 3000 yuan (about 27 thousand rubles).

From Sohu Material:

Today, the attitude to the research and production branches of a military nature in Ukraine is still very poor. Talents in these industries from Ukraine left for other countries to find work there and arrange their lives.

The author of the article notes that the country, which had huge military-industrial potential, practically lost all of it and today faces a shortage of its own personnel, being forced to offer cooperation to foreign companies at international military-technical exhibitions and salons.

From the material:

Not so long ago, Chinese companies entered the process of buying shares in Motor Sich. Tianjiao Airlines has proposed building houses with luxury apartments in a neighborhood near the plant so that professionals can live in them and ultimately contribute to the Chinese aviation industry.
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  1. Thrifty 2 January 2020 12: 24 New
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    Трамп костьми ляжет -зеленского и шакаломойского-чтобы китаю мотор-сычь не достался! Сша найдут способ сорвать или заблокировать эту сделку! А по поводу деградации укроинской экономики -чем больше в стране либералов, чем ближе они к власти, тем выше шанс на развал государства как такового! Надеюсь, что у китайцев хватит сил и средств не повторять ошибки наши и у-кроины, не давать разворовывать и распродовать предприятия, особенно оборонку!
    1. Thrall 2 January 2020 12: 25 New
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      Chinese liberal? What kind of beast is this?
      1. Thrifty 2 January 2020 12: 34 New
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        Thrall hi - firstly, happy new year, hi and secondly, there are liberals even among penguins, and in China there are more of them than in our country at times! !!
        1. Russobel 2 January 2020 13: 43 New
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          And in China there are more inhabitants at times!
      2. Tersky 2 January 2020 13: 26 New
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        Quote: Thrall
        Chinese liberal? What kind of beast is this?

        "Либерализм в современном Китае " В. А. Аббакумова и О. А. Симоненко Вам в помощь,кстати свежее, 2017г. hi
      3. Aviator_ 2 January 2020 13: 48 New
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        They were flattened on Tiananmen Square, now, it seems, the new shoot has ripened, in Hong Kong it is heading. Waiting for the harvest.
    2. Finches 2 January 2020 12: 34 New
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      Все республики СССР потеряли! И не только военно-промышленный потенциал - потеряли свою уникальную идентификацию Великого народа производителя превратившись в рынки дешевой рабочей силы и рынки сбыта китайского ширпотреба.России повезло больше, она к этим рынкам добавила тотальную распродажу углеводородов, вырученные деньги от которых, малая толика идет на изображение бурной деятельности тотального капиталистического процветания и возращения былой мощи! Но, если честно, вскроешь самый супер секретный блок военного назначения, в пульте управления "Борея" или ракеты "Ярс" и, будешь неприятно удивлен, что на микросхемах и внутренностях везде едва заметно проступает надпись: "Made-in-China"...Просто Украина в силу своей ментальности действовала с большим размахом по принципу - Один раз живем и после нас, хоть потоп! laughing
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 January 2020 13: 10 New
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        It will become especially clear when you pay attention to electronic components (radio components), various connectors (plugs, sockets, sockets, plugs, clamps), control and switching components (switches, switches, starters and relays).
      2. tihonmarine 2 January 2020 13: 17 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Simply, by virtue of its mentality, Ukraine acted on a grand scale on the principle - Once we live after us, even the flood!

        Here you can only agree.
      3. Svarog 2 January 2020 13: 42 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Simply, by virtue of its mentality, Ukraine acted on a grand scale on the principle of

        I think that in Ukraine the situation is worse than in Russia, only for the reason that they do not have oil and gas .. but if we assume that oil and gas would be ..
        In this regard, the West has achieved almost everything that it wanted .. Ukraine, Belarus are torn off from Russia, almost all ties are torn off with Ukraine .. and now they continue to form hatred of Russians among Ukrainians .. I think that the ultimate goal of the West is war, by the hands of Ukrainians, Poles, Balts, against Russia. But this is only if Russia ceases to share its resources .. From here, by the way, we can draw conclusions about the success of foreign policy. Personally, I would consider it a huge success if Belarus and Ukraine were part of Russia, or, truly, allied states.
        1. Incvizitor 2 January 2020 14: 27 New
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          but if we assume that oil and gas would be ..
          then it would be the same, only oil with pindo gas. we would squeeze.
        2. Machito 2 January 2020 14: 55 New
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          Hey. Happy New Year! I agree with your post
          1. Svarog 2 January 2020 15: 19 New
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            Quote: Bearded
            Hey. Happy New Year! I agree with your post

            Greetings, Happy New Year! hi
        3. rezerv66 2 January 2020 16: 42 New
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          The ultimate goal of the West is war, by the hands of Ukrainians ..... against Russia.

          100%.
      4. alexmach 2 January 2020 14: 12 New
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        Очень четко подмечено. Украина всего лишь бежала по этому пути быстрее и зашла дальше, но ситуация в Украине и в России принципиально ничем не отличается.
      5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 January 2020 16: 39 New
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        Quote: Finches
        But, to be honest, you will open the most secret military unit in the Boreya control panel or the Yars rocket and you will be unpleasantly surprised that the inscription “Made-in-China” is barely noticeable on microchips and insides.

        Are you sure? :)))))) as far as I know, such products are fully localized in the Russian Federation
        1. Finches 2 January 2020 17: 05 New
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          You know one thing, I know another - but there will be no proof! laughing However, this is an open secret: "According to JSC Concern Radioelectronic Technologies (KRET), it will take two to five years to replace more than 3,5 thousand elements of imported electronic components, but about 7-8% of them are not reproducible. " Analysis for 2018.
      6. Andrey VOV 2 January 2020 17: 03 New
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        Did you open these blocks or collect them?
        1. Finches 2 January 2020 17: 08 New
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          Вам за державу обидно? Мне то же...Единственное, что могу написать в этой области положение стало улучшаться в последние лет 5 - 7 не только с электронной начинкой, но и программным обеспечением! Но несмотря на все приложенные усилия и миллиардные финансовые вливания, оборонка пока не может похвастаться с избавлением зависимости от иностранной электронной компонентой базы. Особенно это касается средств связи и управления выпущенных по программе перевооружения в 2008 - 2014 годах! hi
          1. Andrey VOV 2 January 2020 17: 12 New
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            Dear Eugene, yes, it's a shame, and I ask you not to be like our hands of warriors, when a simple question requires an answer of "yes" or "no", and in response a speech is made for at least 5 minutes))))
            1. Finches 2 January 2020 17: 17 New
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              hi This is professional - I was at a university, military institute, taught until recently, even led the department, it’s short laughing He opened it. True, Voentelecom is very kind to the unauthorized opening of products and the children who have a professional holiday on December 19! laughing
              1. Andrey VOV 2 January 2020 17: 23 New
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                and I thought from the political leaders
                1. Finches 2 January 2020 17: 25 New
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                  No, he held exclusively command posts.
                  1. Andrey VOV 2 January 2020 17: 32 New
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                    Although the political leaders were also different, with the coming
                    1. Finches 2 January 2020 17: 46 New
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                      Happy New Year! You correctly noted that a sensible political officer is a huge help in the work of the commander!
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    3. businessv 2 January 2020 21: 48 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      I hope that the Chinese have the strength and resources not to repeat our mistakes and u-kroins

      They have created an institute to study the problems of the collapse of states, so they certainly will not allow this.
    4. Kazbek 2 January 2020 21: 59 New
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      What bones should anyone lie with? The deal took place, the plant was sold. To the Chinese. Good morning. good
    5. nekromonger 3 January 2020 22: 59 New
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      and not a liberal is it your Putinist?
  2. maidan.izrailovich 2 January 2020 12: 24 New
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    Львиная доля украинского тяжёлого машиностроения, да и в целом промышленности, было сконцентрировано в регионах с русским и русскоязычным населением. Отказавшись от всего русского, Украина потеряла всё то, что создано при советской власти.
    1. Pessimist22 2 January 2020 12: 29 New
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      Until 1922, these southeastern regions belonged to the RSFSR, but as I read, Ukraine was transferred to unite and increase the proletariat.
      1. tihonmarine 2 January 2020 13: 20 New
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        to unite and increase the proletariat were transferred to Ukraine.

        И даже представьте во сколько дороже было построить предприятия за Уралом, и ресурсы были сосредоточены в то время не Европейское территории Союза. А получилось всё наоборот.
    2. alexmach 2 January 2020 14: 13 New
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      The lion's share of Ukrainian heavy engineering, and industry in general

      Heavy engineering - yes, in general industry - no.
      1. nikon7717 2 January 2020 16: 51 New
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        Tyazh.Mash is machines for the production of the rest of the industry. Huge shaft for a power plant turbine, where do we do it? Rolling mills for 6m sheet where to get?
        А по МоторСич Китай похоже ставку сделал очень высокую. Конечная цель новое производство двигателя для вертолета, занять долю рынка потеснить США, РФ, ЕС. Короче всем выгодно чтобы сделка не прошла, иначе Китай на халяву снова, как с авианосцами получит опыт СССР. Надеюсь наши специалисты там работают. smile
        1. alexmach 2 January 2020 17: 08 New
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          In short, it is beneficial for everyone that the transaction does not go through

          It is beneficial to everyone, but what really can be done then? Bolton had come and persuaded several times, and hadn’t persuaded something ...
          1. nikon7717 2 January 2020 17: 19 New
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            Есть конечно вариант номер 3. Продать "дохлую кошку'. Только это искусство большое. Потребуется до сделки всех ключевых спецов убрать с группы, все документы ключевые исключить из архивов по разработке, всю документацию на изделия, тех.карты ликвидировать. Фактически остановить производство.
            1. alexmach 2 January 2020 17: 36 New
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              Attention is the question, who will do it and why?
              - Owner? so then the Chinese will bring him a claim. Up to rolling into concrete.
              - Ukraine? Well, Ukraine and their authorities are interested in the enterprise continuing to work, at least in some quality. In this sense, they are interested in working with the Chinese. Because it is obvious that all the rest of the production is simply buried, but these may not be buried immediately.
        2. Kazbek 2 January 2020 22: 06 New
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          The deal has passed. You at least read local news ...

          Recall that the day before from Kiev came confirmation of the fact that more than 50% of Motor Sich shares were sold to Chinese companies (such a statement was made by the head of Ukroboronprom Aivaras Abromavicius).


          https://topwar.ru/165854-v-kitae-pojasnjajut-pochemu-kupit-motor-sich-nedostatochno-dlja-sozdanija-novejshih-aviadvigatelej.html
  3. New Year day 2 January 2020 12: 28 New
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    Not only did they poher the production, but they also sold the entire Soviet legacy:
    5500 tanks (T-64, T-72, t-55, T-80), more than 4000 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, a huge number of multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) and artillery, including Smerch MLRS (95 units), 1100 combat aircraft, represented by the most modern at that time bombers, fighters and transporters of the USSR and other military equipment of the USSR.
    According to the London Institute for Strategic Studies, - in the amount of 89,4 billion dollars. According to experts, this money would more than be enough not only for reforming the army, but also for raising the economy of the entire state.
    But do not feed the horse!
    1. tihonmarine 2 January 2020 13: 23 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      But do not feed the horse!

      And into the pockets of the newly-minted capitalists. And now, around the world, a million is collected in a hat.
    2. Incvizitor 2 January 2020 14: 31 New
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      It’s not enough to kill them.
      1. Andrey VOV 2 January 2020 17: 06 New
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        It is for this not them, but a labeled Judas ... still alive and still trying to teach how to live
  4. 23424636 2 January 2020 12: 30 New
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    китайцы со своим многомиллионным людским потенциалом все ищут как украсть из обнищавшей украины .Весь Киев пронизан их сетью разведслужб .ритейлеры в центре в основном работают под прикрытим китайцев . Россию это как бы не волнует .но Americans очень взволнованы. То что Смоленской площади плевать на Украину с точки зрения потенциала старых разработок можно судить о судьбе филиала Мотор Сичи в городе Снежном ( Д Н Р ) ,где какие то левые пацаны уже второй раз банкротят это предприятие которое делало титановые изделия для основной продукции в Запорожье .которые отправляли туда ветолетом в добрые времена .....
    1. Mordvin 3 2 January 2020 12: 48 New
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      the Chinese, with their multi-million dollar human potential, are all looking for how to steal from impoverished Ukraine. All of Kiev is penetrated by their network of intelligence services. The retailers in the center mainly work under the cover of the Chinese.

      Do you think we have better?
      All Chinese citizens are required by law to cooperate with intelligence.
  5. Vladimir Fedin 2 January 2020 12: 37 New
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    Ukraine has lost not only its military-industrial potential, but in general its entire industrial potential. This is a trend. The more a country focuses on European integration, the less industry it has. A vivid example is the Baltic countries.
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 January 2020 12: 57 New
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      The way it is. The core of the EU countries will not make the mistakes of the USSR and develop the industrial potential of the border territories.
      1. tihonmarine 2 January 2020 13: 31 New
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        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        The core of the EU countries will not make the mistakes of the USSR and develop the industrial potential of the border territories.
        It makes no sense for Europe to develop industry, even in the Baltic States. Far, expensive, no raw materials. And who needs an extra competitor.
    2. Egoza 2 January 2020 17: 24 New
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      Quote: Vladimir Fedin
      Ukraine has lost not only its military-industrial potential, but in general its entire industrial potential.

      Shah! Nobody lost anything! Just a few "smart" all successfully sold. And who did not understand or did not notice, i.e. people, well, who will give them indignation? Let them say thanks for the fact that the new owners provide an opportunity to earn at least something.
  6. Kibl 2 January 2020 12: 41 New
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    Когда родился Ukrainian,еврей заплакал.А если серьёзно, дорвавшись до закромов СССР начался такой жёр,что пока всё не сожрали и разворовали остановиться ну никак не могли и практически на всем постсоветском пространстве.Ну и конечно украинские хлопцы и дивчины в лидерах этой движухи.Що не вмерла Украина,да вмерла, вмерла!!!
    1. tihonmarine 2 January 2020 13: 36 New
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      Quote: KIBL
      But seriously, getting to the bins of the USSR began such zher

      На Западе всё шло потихоньку, равномерно, а у наших всё в один момент легло к ногам, как шакалы вцепились, не оттащить. И всё мало мало, давай больше.
    2. beeper 2 January 2020 17: 26 New
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      In fact, "Ukrainian (mostly not Ukrainians, but Galicians) lads and girls" are caught up in a slavish, servile way, as usual, farmer "not slaves" serve their small-town "panam", opportunistically "Ukrainian" klepto "w / Bandera’s "(they also came up with" consolation "to the robbed ukrobydlu, quoted by you, KIBL comrade, so flattering in words, but practically, in fact, a false" compliment "in the mastery of thieves' frauds -" the Jew cried, m. only from such a gross violation of the elementary "aesthetics of theft" -when "a chicken pecks a grain ...", from the sight of a primitive-completely "unsophisticated", ragulsky redneck- "that I can’t eat-steal, even at least bite-spoil ... ", because in any case there should be a" beauty "and a" creative streak ", even in embezzlement on a particularly large scale, and the ragul who exploded on someone else’s good has no sense of measure, even that restrained the deadly destructive floods in Zapukria, the glimpses on the Carpathian slopes, "shooting yourself in the foot", stupidly chopped and sold and for pennies!)!

      This has happened since the time of Kuchman’s “Ukrainian dill”, he even admitted in his memoirs that he “distributed” the most profitable and largest pieces of the “seized” public property “at a symbolic price in one hryvnia” among “his own”, among relatives and the most trusted small-town grabbers , "stealing" in a thieving manner "this" kind of "hype-robbery of compatriots in order" to secure "Ukrainian society" from a return to socialism "!

      The Ukrainian "average salaries" mentioned in the Article as much as $ 200 are "the average temperature of hospital patients (including the deceased in the morgue)" - this is only in Kiev and large cities, in large factories, they can be "paid", and -Usually lower wages for workers, not so big-Chinese sources openly mislead, as they don’t even mention galloping unemployment in the destructively degrading, under the Bandera-Nazi yoke, and rapidly deindustrializing supposedly "future great agrarian power"! request

      In addition, not all Ukrainian factories and "firms" are paid on time, most of the Ukrainian working "peersichnyh (" ordinary citizens ")" throw it "(" so as not to die! ")" Irregular small "handouts"! The smaller the “firm”, the usually more violations with this ugly total wage arrears and disenfranchised workers- “who don’t like it, don’t keep it, leave!” .... this is the real “Ukrainian life”, in ruin and “progressive” poverty, with paid deadly “health care”, nyak “social protection” and “limitless” crime, which “Ukrainians” are klepto-parasites “w / bandero-food”, called “exhilarate” under the “barking” bark of raguli dogs released from the chain ( proud) "! winked

      I, as a (u, o) Krainsky Russian and a specialist engineer, can’t help forging my weapons against the openly Russophobic Bandera-Nazi amerocolonial "regime", who openly hates (u, o) the Krai Russian population and kills and kills my Russian and Russian-speaking fellow citizens, my family and friends in the Donbass! The idea that the unconstitutional “military gathering” forcibly taken from my salary goes straight to the sting of the “bloodthirsty appetites of the“ Maidan government ”is shameful and unbearable to me!

      So, “burn it!” - this “huge military-industrial potential”, which, dodging to the “helm of power”, stupid farmer Bandera Nazis with clever small-town klepto “w / Bandera” themselves mercantilely destroyed-let the dog under the tail ( and rightly so !!!) for the "nezalezhnisti rocks"!
      By the time of the logical "outcome" of the decades-long anti-people and anti-state "rozbudovy" Washington Russophobian-anti-Russian "project Ukraine" - the unleashing of the Amerokholuy Galicia Bandera Nazis and feeding them amero "fallow" klepto-w / ex-Bandera-waged war-BSSR Ukraine everything happened according to the popular saying "God did not give horns to a vigorous cow (and thank God !!!)!"
      1. Prjanik 2 January 2020 20: 03 New
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        I agree, while the Ukrainian-Bandera industry is working to kill the Russians - a happy agrarian future for them.
  7. midshipman 2 January 2020 12: 42 New
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    In the subordination of 6 GU MRP USSR (I led this GU) in; Ukraine had 19 enterprises. More than 90 thousand specialists worked there. What they cost: "Radio meter" (Kiev, missile heads, microelectronics), software named after Lenin (Lvov, SAM). Nothing left. All wasted.
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      HAM 2 January 2020 12: 54 New
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      Yuri Grigoryevich, do not be upset.
      You, all this was created for the defense of the USSR country and the task was fulfilled with honor ...
      А по поводу предприятий,как бы это кощунственно ни звучало,то пусть они лучше развалятся вконец,чем бандеровцы будут делать оружие....
    2. tihonmarine 2 January 2020 13: 37 New
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      Quote: midshipman
      Nothing left. All wasted.

      And in Mukachevo, wasn’t your factory?
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      Quote: midshipman
      Чего стоили:"Радиоизмеритель" (Киев, головки ракет, микроэлектроника),ПО им Ленина (Львов, ЗРК). Ничего не осталось. Все создавали впустую.

      2019
      The enterprise "Radio meter" exported products to the Russian Federation and other countries in the amount of 43,7 million hryvnias
      "Radio meter" is a strategic enterprise for the country's economy, because it produces navigation and landing equipment for aircraft construction not only in Ukraine or the CIS, but also in the EU, "added StateWatch.
      2019
      Lviv State Plant "LORTA (formerly Lenin) is still working; it produces products and modernizes
      the latest news from KAU Obolon-A for artillery.
      You emphasize in each news that you have created and there is nothing left. Check at least.
      Internet is available.
    4. Karen 2 January 2020 15: 37 New
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      Yuri Grigoryevich, enlighten, pzhst ... Next to Lvov in n.p. Chervonograd was an enterprise for the production of connectors, with prices like diamonds ... Was it from your diocese or from the IEP?
      1. midshipman 2 January 2020 16: 48 New
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        Да это был наш завод "Радиоаппаратуры". Директор был Пунько Петр По связи завод имел позывной "Зубр"
        1. Karen 2 January 2020 16: 53 New
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          My sidekick told me: he asked me to put a symbolic price on the box on the box, and not a couple hundred thousand rubles documented on the invoice - so that thieves would not get too excited at the airport ... :)
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          And what can you tell about Zaporizhzhya factories?
  8. rocket757 2 January 2020 12: 43 New
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    At that difficult moment EVERYTHING and MUCH LOST .... the question is, what and where is still happening!
    Although it has become better, have countries become stronger since that tragic moment?
  9. knn54 2 January 2020 13: 16 New
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    The leadership of the military-industrial complex does not have experience, not competence. But there are accounts abroad. To grab and shed, it hurts a lot.
    "The clever do not need us. The faithful need." "Where grey triumphs, black always comes to power"
    These are quotes by br. Strugatsky ("It is difficult to be a god"). explain if not all, then a lot.
  10. Positiv 2 January 2020 13: 24 New
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    When I look at these photos and others .. My heart bleeds!
    Why are you so hoh s .. Because the whole Union built ?????

    Answer ALL for it!
    1. Earth 2 January 2020 14: 32 New
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      Quote: Pozitiv
      When I look at these photos and others .. My heart bleeds!
      Why are you so hoh s .. Did you build the whole Union ??

      as far as I remember, there was no money for maintenance at all.
      There is no oil gas. There was nothing to sell. And the content of such a technique is expensive.
      Offered the Russian Federation. They refused. They themselves were not rich at that time.
      The United States gave the money exclusively for cutting.
      It is hypothetically difficult to imagine if it would have been preserved by some miracle.
      A lot would change. All nuclear weapons went to them (they were handed over to the Russian Federation) and these bombers. (Part of the Russian Federation part was cut)
      And yes, sorry for them. New. They would fly. Wait, they would find work too.
      1. Positiv 2 January 2020 14: 51 New
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        Quote: Earth
        Quote: Pozitiv
        When I look at these photos and others .. My heart bleeds!
        Why are you so hoh s .. Did you build the whole Union ??

        as far as I remember, there was no money for maintenance at all.
        There is no oil gas. There was nothing to sell. And the content of such a technique is expensive.
        Offered the Russian Federation. They refused. They themselves were not rich at that time.
        The United States gave the money exclusively for cutting.
        It is hypothetically difficult to imagine if it would have been preserved by some miracle.
        A lot would change. All nuclear weapons went to them (they were handed over to the Russian Federation) and these bombers. (Part of the Russian Federation part was cut)
        And yes, sorry for them. New. They would fly. Wait, they would find work too.

        Well, then soberly you reason .. hi
        It was a dashing time, we still cannot manage it ..
      2. Finn 2 January 2020 20: 34 New
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        How many swans did Russia offer? According to the text for free .... so I believed.
        1. Karen 3 January 2020 10: 00 New
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          If sclerosis does not fail me, they wanted 2 billion dollars for everything.
          RF, if I remember correctly, unfastened 1bn.
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    And it’s very good for us.
  12. Terenin 2 January 2020 14: 13 New
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    ... huge military-industrial potential, in fact, all of it has lost

    What are we all straining for? request They then consider it to be overwhelming! All successfully sold out fellow
  13. Yang yangov 2 January 2020 14: 15 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    and in China there are more than in our country at times! !!

    ну если в Китае население в 10 раз больше чем у нас.. то и либералов также больше чем у нас)
    1. karabass 2 January 2020 14: 22 New
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      And why this word LIBERAL was given to you - you hustle it wherever you can in order to scold. As soon as the word Negro becomes taboo
  14. cat Rusich 2 January 2020 14: 17 New
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    It is not enough to have a military-industrial complex on the scale of the USSR — the country's leadership needs to link its future and prosperity with its homeland.
  15. Svetlana 2 January 2020 14: 38 New
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    There is absolutely nothing new for us in this article.
  16. D-ug 2 January 2020 14: 40 New
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    After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine lost a huge military-industrial potential

    Again Soviet tales. The USSR did not possess any potential other than raw materials. And the tales about the “powerful Soviet military-industrial complex” are just tales for suckers.
    1. Thunderbolt 2 January 2020 14: 49 New
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      Second place in sales of weapons --- that's not a fairy tale. Without a powerful defense industry, such a result is not achievable. And this still needs to be taken into account the loss of share in our markets stably. China has replaced much of what our military-industrial complex could offer him, and the United States and France will enter India.
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        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Second place in sales of weapons --- that's not a fairy tale.

        “Selling” and “shipping to the consumer” are two different things. Shipment can be by barter, in exchange for bananas or palm oil. Or maybe on credit, which will never be paid and will then be debited (such "sales" were very widely practiced by the USSR).
        In addition, the second place (excluding the form of shipment) was in 2017 - 9,7% percent of world trade. In 2018, this is already the third place and 9,5% of the global volume.
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        China has replaced much of what our military-industrial complex could offer him, and the United States and France will enter India.

        So they have something to offer better and cheaper.
        1. Andrey VOV 2 January 2020 17: 10 New
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          Went away from here, specially registered yesterday to scribble here? But you bastard, like everyone like you, scribble all under one carbon copy ... Admins, filter such casserole-heads!
  17. askort154 2 January 2020 14: 52 New
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    Были два конкурирующих мировых ВПК - СССР и США.
    УССР , была лидером по производству и наличию всех видов вооружений среди всех республик. И это понятно, это был западный рубеж СССР. Перед наступлением немцев,большую часть успели экстренно эвакуировать на Урал, и восточнее. После Победы,
    многое вернули на Украину, которая вновь, стала "кузницей" ВПК СССР. После развала "Варшавского Договора", большая часть вооружений с "Запада", было выведено на территорию УССР. После развала СССР, Украина занимала третье место в мире по количеству авиационной техники (после США и России). За 30 лет, большая часть всех запасов вооружений было распродано, оставшаяся часть пущена на "разборку" для запчастей , а также на консервацию с последующей утилизацией. Лично сталкивался, какие объёмы оружия вывозились из Украины в Африку и "горячие точки".Россия тогда, в 90-х, тоже не мало "развозила" ( за что и обвинили Бута).
    О нынешнем состоянии ВПК Украины ,красноречиво говорит "искреннее удивление", Зеленского - "что, за 10 лет выпустили только один танк ? ".
    Since Ukraine has been living for 30 years at the expense of selling off its past acquired without building anything - this pseudo-state has no future, and cannot be.
  18. Avior 2 January 2020 14: 55 New
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    . It is noted that many Ukrainian citizens are characterized by a salary in the region of $ 200 (12-13 thousand rubles)

    That's right.
    This is the minimum salary in Ukraine. Like in Russia, by the way.
    And in China, what about this?
  19. Tomich3 2 January 2020 15: 01 New
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    What is the "fresh" news))
  20. Strashila 2 January 2020 15: 39 New
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    Sohu: After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine lost a huge military-industrial potential

    - She did not lose him, but under the strict guidance of curators from the State Department, she destroyed it.
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    To save money on the next article, Sohu just attach a link to this article and sign below "In Russia, the same thing."
  22. sgr291158 3 January 2020 07: 12 New
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    Worthless country. With the union, yes, they did something else and now everything went under the hammer. Yes, and let them live as they want.
  23. Pariv 3 January 2020 17: 23 New
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    Russia had gone through a lot and the fact they still remain the one country the US fears is a tremendous achievement and a testimony to sound leadership, ingenuity of the populace, high quality education from base up and the sense of patriotism pervading the secti9n of the population that matters.

    I don't think there is another country on earth that would recover and still remain strong the way Russia has done in face of so much powerful headwinds. This is the reason your country leadership is admired and respected all over the world. I think the war on terrorism afforded a window that allowed Russia to redevelop. Without that window, not sure if Russia would not have been broken up. Russia enjoys the goodwill of many "weak nations" too afraid to stand up. Not necessarily that they are against US but against being forced to what they don't want especially when these are against the interest of their people. The world needs a strong Russia to keep the world free and on an even keel.
  24. Foxnova 3 January 2020 21: 24 New
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    Sohu: After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine lost a huge military-industrial potential

    And the water is wet
    And the snow is cold