Russian nuclear power plants set a record for generation

It became known about the record set by Russian nuclear power plants. Including thanks to the new capacities of Russian nuclear power plants put into commercial operation in 2019, almost 209 billion kWh of electricity was generated, some of which was exported.

The record holders for 2019 were the Balakovo, Rostov and Kalinin NPPs.

Taking into account new indicators, an increase in the share of nuclear energy in the total electricity generation of the Russian Federation is observed. These indicators as of January 1, 2020 make up 19%.

Earlier, a new power unit (7th) was commissioned at Novovoronezh NPP.

It is noteworthy that this situation is established against the background of the European policy on the abandonment of nuclear power plants. We are talking about the implementation of the project of the so-called "green energy", in which alternative energy sources (wind stations, etc.) are put at the forefront.

For all this, the closure of the same nuclear power plants in Germany now leads to certain consequences: Germany is not getting the proper volumes of electric energy, primarily for its industry. In this regard, German experts predict the likelihood of purchases of electric energy outside the country. This fact causes irritation among the major industrialists of Germany, stating that this is how EU legislation does everything to strike a blow at German industry.

Comments

[Kibl]

Yes, and let them close their nuclear power plants, Russia is better, in addition to oil and gas, it will be possible to sell electricity.

[Gardamir]

electricity.

Speaking of electricity, today I’m fantasizing about whether to make a rifle on electricity, it turns out everything has been invented before us.
https://hightech.plus/2018/10/13/izobretena-elektrovintovka-kotoraya-strelyaet-odnovremenno-pyatyu-pulyami

[Servisinzhener]

The ideas of building Hausgans and Railgans have been known for a long time, but there are subtleties in implementation. Which did not allow to put the railgun on Zumwalt.

[svp67]

Quote: KIBL

Russia is better, in addition to oil and gas, it will be possible to sell electricity.

In connection with the almost complete destruction of its industry, Ukraine now has the opportunity. It can export part of its generation

[nikon7717]

Olympic slogan Faster! Higher! Stronger! In every way they do not allow to exercise at the Olympics and sports in competitions. It seems that the authorities understood that for its fair implementation in sports, it is first necessary to implement this slogan in the economy and the military sphere.

[cost]

Russian nuclear power plants set a record for generation

Nevermind. From this, the tariffs have not become less.

[svp67]

Quote: Rich

Nevermind

No, it speaks of that. that industry is booming. As the most important consumer of electricity. And this includes wages and employment. So something like this ...

[novel66]

lit Uglich highway, in the Moscow region

[eklmn]

“No, that says it. that industry is booming. As the most important consumer of electricity. ”
No, this indicates the inefficiency of electrical equipment that consumes much more kW than a similar foreign one.
I typed on Google “Electrical power of Russian machine tools and foreign analogues.” I got dozens of websites of various Russian companies manufacturing various machine tools (and this is good!) And many sites combine phrases like “... has no analogues in the world ..., in terms of energy consumption as the best foreign analogues or surpass them ...” (you can believe it, but you can not!)

[svp67]

Quote: eklmn

No, this indicates the inefficiency of electrical equipment that consumes much more kW than a similar foreign one.

This suggests that you are not aware that new equipment is often imported equipment manufactured in Europe and America and I do not think that it is worse in these indicators of what works abroad.

[Simargl]

Quote: Rich

From this, the tariffs did not become less.

But they did not take off. Do you know what happens with a deficit?

[Ru_Na]

It can’t, the state of Ukrainian nuclear power plants is sad, their resources are running out, renewal and modernization cost a lot of money, which Kiev does not have, and there is no question of building a new nuclear power plant, so Ukraine will soon be left without nuclear power plants and Good old CHPPs will generate energy.

[svp67]

Quote: Ru_Na

It will not, the state of Ukrainian nuclear power plants is sad, their resources are already running out,

Alas, they can. Yes, but they’ve got some more time.

[Astronaut]

now Ukraine has such an opportunity

If before their nuclear power plants do not explode (

[minus]

First, let an adequate price be made domestically !!! Then you can sell it .... I would gladly set up an electric boiler .... It’s only aluminum factories that they use for free .... From daily shifts I drive up to the city, visibility in winter drops to 500 meters. Everything is in smoke from coal-fired heating boilers! I don’t need 22 kopecks for SAZ or 40 kopecks for China and Mongolia a year ago .... At least sell for a ruble, I agree!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Minus

First, let an adequate price be made domestically !!!

So I’m sitting thinking, why is it gas, water, electricity that is constantly getting more expensive? Or was it all produced some 50 years ago in a cheaper way? Or maybe water, gas are some other way, so prices are rising? Or maybe atomic energy systems were not invented for more energy?
But the price of gas, water, electricity, gasoline is rising. I think that people have this as they want, littering their brains about crises, the rise in price of life, etc.?

[novel66]

they do so, everyone wants to live well, and without making efforts!

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Minus

First, let an adequate price be made domestically !!!

So I’m sitting thinking, why is it gas, water, electricity that is constantly getting more expensive? Or was it all produced some 50 years ago in a cheaper way? Or maybe water, gas are some other way, so prices are rising? Or maybe atomic energy systems were not invented for more energy?
But the price of gas, water, electricity, gasoline is rising. I think that people have this as they want, littering their brains about crises, the rise in price of life, etc.?

Well, somewhere in some way they may be littering, but in the field of infrastructure supplies, the price is growing because before the infrastructure was paid not by the consumer, but by someone else, mainly large factories and the state (the Soviet slogan "public goods for the means of production") ... And now all this is gradually shifted to consumers. The only problem is that this transfer is not always intelligently organized.

[NEXUS]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

The only problem is that this shifting is not always reasonably organized.

The problem is that, logically, everything should get cheaper, and not sickly. And this applies not only to the bowels of the earth, but also to products and goods for life. On every corner they talk about the transfer of industrial capacities to countries where labor is cheaper, but nothing is cheaper anywhere from the word at all.
This is arranged by the way reasonable for those who have profits from this. We are all loaded with taxes for gas, electricity, and so on, and at the same time, excuse me, they are spoiling the head of the average person about crises, shifting something there to consumers, to the jumps in the dollar, oil, etc. But in fact, everything is very banal to disgrace. You know how magicians do when they divert the viewer's attention from one hand, and voila ... the card disappeared from the hand.
And as a result, the average person does not even think about why for some reason he once paid 7 kopecks per liter for gas, and now he pays 30 rubles. Why does the payment for water increase? Why do gas tariffs rise? Why, are they driving us from Mars to our homes?
And I'm sorry, what is this for example a telephone, for example, at a cost of 3 dollars, for some reason, the output costs 200-300-500 dollars? Start telling me about pricing for goods? And who forms this price?

And at the same time, all of us, sorry, are being bullied by banks, loans, mortgages, etc.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: NEXUS

And at the same time, all of us, sorry, are being bullied by banks, loans, mortgages, etc.

Listen to you, then around you solid conspiracy theories, maybe it's time to be treated? although it is better not to start a Holiar because "if you have paranoia it does not mean that you are not being followed."

Quote: NEXUS

And as a result, the average person does not even think about why for some reason he once paid 7 kopecks per liter for gas, and now he pays 30 rubles.

And really why is that? as I said, before, someone gave money for the construction of an oil refinery, and then bought its products for a penny, and you were a "happy neighbor" who did not give money but received gasoline for a penny, but such happiness cannot last forever, especially if There are more and more "happy neighbors", and at some point the one who gave money to the refinery stopped doing all this, there can be many reasons, from stupidly tired, to went bankrupt, and now the moment has come when the refinery needs to change part of the equipment or in general, to rebuild everything, or to build something else additional, the same storage warehouses, but there is no money. Yes, even here you don't have to go far for an example, such "money givers" were large transport units from public transport to construction and agriculture, and that's not counting the local authorities.

You can also bring an example of how, due to car sales, the cost of new housing is growing, if you do not understand then I mean that where some large concrete plant managed before, today you have to build a lot of middle ones, due to traffic jams. (By the way, this also applies to the imitation of products in stores)

With all this, I want you to understand, by itself "giving money" in the sense of "take away and divide", in the sense of "public goods for the means of production" is not something bad, as well as something good, just such an activity leads to distortions in the economy and these distortions are very difficult to track, and almost impossible to prevent. Well, here's how to track down and prevent a housing problem caused by the construction of a heating main 60 years after its construction? Or how to track and prevent the economic suicide of the city due to the allocation of areas for residential construction?

psIn general, on this sim, I propose to close this offtop, because the topic is vast and multifaceted, and it will be important for the majority of those sitting here to cry, cry about "everything is lost", poke fun at someone and at the same time it will be corny not interesting to understand the essence, even for themselves ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Let's not start Holiar because "if you have paranoia it doesn't mean that you are not being followed."

Holy truth.

[NEXUS]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Listen to you around you continuous conspiracy theories, can it be time to heal?

Dear, where does the conspiracy theory? Maybe you have paranoia and through the post you see talk of a world conspiracy?

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

With all this, I want you to understand that "giving money" in the sense of "take away and divide", in the sense of "public goods for the means of production" is not something bad in itself,

This is the case when the opponent did not understand anything from my post. At the same time he made a bunch of abstruse offers, and as my neighbor says, I'm sorry, this is more like farting in an empty basin. In other words, I tell you about Ivan, and you tell me about Thomas.

[Lexus]

Andrey, are you this?
Thank you, I began to read your comments again.

[Simargl]

Quote: Minus

I don’t need 22 kopecks for either SAZ or 40 kopecks for China and Mongolia a year ago .... At least sell for a ruble, I agree!

Well, declare consumption 100GW ++

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

When will the myth of the so-called "green energy" be destroyed? https://eenergy.media/2017/03/08/massovoe-razvitie-vetroenergetiki-mozhet-nanesti-sereznyj-vred-planete/ or https://masterok.livejournal.com/5434816.html

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

When the myth of ..... "green energy" is destroyed .....

Too many heat up this myth, many actors participate in this performance. So Greta Tunberg became the Person of the Year. This green energy ---- lying through and through.

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

This green energy ---- lying through and through

A bit wrong. At this level of renewable (green) energy technology development, it cannot become anything but an auxiliary one.
Then, when the technology reaches a level of profitability, reliability, stability .... then it can work out.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Brad!

Then, when the technology reaches a level of profitability, reliability, stability .... then it can work out.

Power plants with wind generators cause enormous environmental damage, and what a dirty production and subsequent disposal of spent solar panels for the same supposedly clean and environmentally friendly stations.

[rocket757]

only windmills and nothing else? Then the "breadth" of your knowledge on the topic of alternative energy is understandable.
By the way, what part of human activity benefits the nature of the planet? Tell me.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

https://eenergy.media/2017/03/08/massovoe-razvitie-vetroenergetiki-mozhet-nanesti-sereznyj-vred-planete/

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

There are no absolutely environmentally friendly and safe technologies. Today, a person still needs to learn a lot to reduce its environmental impact.

[rocket757]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

There are no absolutely environmentally friendly and safe technologies. Today, a person still needs to learn a lot to reduce its environmental impact.

I agree! Alternative energy MAY BECOME part of the process of maintaining cleanliness and order on the planet. One of many ....
This task is long, but it will have to be done. if you want to keep the planet in good condition.
Everything must be done wisely.
By the way, nuclear energy has serious prospects to remain the main source of electricity for a very long time. If, again, do everything wisely!

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

awareness of the problem is the first step to solving it

[rocket757]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

awareness of the problem is the first step to solving it

"hussar swoops", thoughtlessly following the "frantic Greta", a good, necessary cause only harms ...

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Oh, these radical fighters for nature. There is a lot of scream, but no sense.

[rocket757]

There is a sense! Greta sailed across the Atlantic on an expensive yacht .... apologists, leaders of "green" associations, are not becoming poor, for some time now.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

There is a sense! Greta sailed across the Atlantic on an expensive yacht .... apologists, leaders of "green" associations, are not becoming poor, for some time now.

Greta versus airplanes is not environmentally friendly. The existing diesel engine was "sealed" on the yacht, the journey took 20 days. 5 sailors served. When they delivered Greta, they flew home on an environmentally friendly plane. By the end of the stay, the other 5 sailors will arrive on an environmentally friendly plane and greta will go back. Instead of 2 tickets for a plane - 10 tickets for sailors.
Also, the production of yachts and environmentally friendly and environmentally unsafe plastic. That’s all

[Simargl]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

Power plants with wind powerоramie causes enormous damage to the environment

I read about it ...
Insects stick to tons on the blades.
There are statistics on birds. There are such figures - if you distribute trunks to people and allow them to shoot purely "for the pleasure" of the birds - windmills will hardly surpass it.
And these are direct killings of animals when they break on the blades.
What about indirect harm from noise?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: Reptiloid

This green energy ---- lying through and through

A bit wrong. At this level of renewable (green) energy technology development, it cannot become anything but an auxiliary one.
Then, when the technology reaches a level of profitability, reliability, stability .... then it can work out.

The lie is that the arrival of Greta at the UN would not have been possible without the development of technology. Had roots in the forest and berries and nuts to collect, given its veganism and this under ?????
I know that you have Victor, there are solar panels, but for most of the territories of Russia this is unacceptable.
Stolen childhood --- from starving Africans. Somehow Greta doesn’t know about them ....

[rocket757]

All the current fuss with the frantic Greta, it would be complete bullshit, if for this case the serious, cunning guys do not want to have serious money.
As always, look for someone profitable.
Ecology must be protected, but not with such debates b by extreme methods.

[Simargl]

Quote: Reptiloid

Stolen childhood --- from starving Africans.

That's for sure! She's absolutely right about a stolen childhood. Only by virtue of development does not quite understands who stole from whom.
Africans, for the most part, are themselves to blame.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: Reptiloid

This green energy ---- lying through and through

A bit wrong. At this level of renewable (green) energy technology development, it cannot become anything but an auxiliary.
Then, when the technology reaches a level of profitability, reliability, stability .... then it can work out.

Well, you also turned out "a little wrong", the problem is not that "they spend money on this green stuff" but that "for this green stuff wrong spend money ", well, for example, they build wind turbines, but at the same time they prohibit the construction of accumulating pumped storage power plants because" there is private property and you are forbidden to flood it ", or they will build wind turbines and even pumped storage power plants for them, but at the same time they will forbid building a consumer plant thanks to which the project will pay off, and all due to the fact that “the plant will pollute the atmosphere.” Well, or the most common, instead of getting super profits from hydrocarbons and investing them in the development of technologies important for green leaves (superconductors, hydrogen generators, super / super-capacitors) , they (“Europeans”) invest money in the greenhouse itself, and then wonder “why doesn't it work?” And there are a lot of such insanities, and all of them are dusted with bribery, advertising, PR and crap in which really innovative projects are drowning.

[rocket757]

I wanted to write in detail, the Internet is buggy!

[rocket757]

Most likely the question is more complicated than we can imagine.

[ProkletyiPirat]

yes no, it’s not, everything fits into a few points
1) EU countries either have no energy resources (hydrocarbons) at all, or are ridiculously small, but consumption is high.
2) Buying on foreign markets is unrealistic because there is nothing to offer, except for technology, but you can sell them once, and heating is needed every winter.
3) It is unrealistic to seize new energy resources, because other countries will not give, at least by earning money on the "liberators from the colonial dictatorship"
4)Scientists have calculated that green renewable energy in the EU is orders of magnitude greater than today's consumption. (this is true even on the basis of technology of the 90s)
5) The EU rushed to implement the greenfinch dreaming of diversifying energy supplies, and ideally reaching self-sufficiency.
6)A bunch of "businessmen" began to breed and lobby in the EU for the allocation of preferences for themselves
7) Well, and a side effect in the form of the collapse of really useful projects against the background of "businessmen".
By the way, regarding point "7", it seems like on Habré I read an article by one Russian scientist who left for the EU to develop hydrogen energy in general and hydrogen generators in particular, and so there are very funny stories about how they unite with lobbyists and give them part of the money because there is no other way to get grants out, while they themselves spend 70% of the money and time on riveting pseudo-scientific PR garbage to close grants (grants are given for this hydrogen garbage, but not for hydrogen generators).

[rocket757]

The energy cycle in the world!
All kinds of Wishlist often stumble on objective reality.

[rocket757]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

When the myth of the so-called “green energy” will be destroyed

Her time has not come yet. For objective reasons.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

..... Her time has not come yet. For objective reasons.

What GDP said this year, in the fall, at the Second Global Summit on Production and Industrialization (GMIS) in Yekaterinburg. Namely, the consequences for the environment, new problems that will appear.

[rocket757]

Now, what is happening on the "green front" can hardly be called normal .... the thing is necessary, in principle, but is not done according to the mind!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Now, what is happening on the "green front" can hardly be called normal .... the thing is necessary, in principle, but is not done according to the mind!

especially about garbage

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

especially about trash

A painful topic and nowhere until the end, until it is resolved ...

[Reptiloid]

I once read that under the USSR the task was precisely of further processing, and not storage.

Quote: rocket757

Quote: Reptiloid

especially about trash

A painful topic and nowhere until the end, until it is resolved ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

I once read that under the USSR the task was precisely of further processing, and not storage.

The main problem with garbage, SHARE IT! The work is dirty, low paid .... in short not ah, in all respects.

[Reptiloid]

Good evening, Victor! I read most of the comments. The impression that Greta among us and puts cons to all

[rocket757]

There are the same ones that have become withered and cunning, well wise identities .... one red feature is worth it! worth a lot.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

There are the same ones that have become withered and cunning, well wise identities .... one red feature is worth it! worth a lot.

Do you think the redhead is also minus here?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Reptiloid

Do you think the redhead is also minus here?

[Reptiloid]

[quote = Mordvin 3] [quote = Reptiloid] Do you think the redhead is also minus here? [/ Quote] [/ quote] Now there is no doubt! Negative ....

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

Do you think the redhead is also minus here?

Any "work" is paid. The one who is interested and who has money pays ...
It all fits together!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

.... Any "work" is paid. The one who is interested and who has the money pays ... It all fits!

For this article, the cons are accurately paid.

[rocket757]

Maybe so. They play a long game, because they didn't manage to grasp it, everything they wanted. Do not do-r-no dense "play" against us.

[Reptiloid]

But we, on the other hand, will "play" just not enough time.

Quote: rocket757

Maybe so. They play a long game, because they didn't manage to grasp it, everything they wanted. Do not do-r-no dense "play" against us.

[rocket757]

And who REALLY wants to realize that the game is going on in large, albeit with such, as it were, small, hidden methods?
There are a LOT of conversations, no real opposition is visible. They go back and forth, "lightning" all sorts of invented .... almost everything we get past. A generation of amateurs, poor students in the subject of ideology! This is a deliberate long loss. Everything rests on people brought up in the Land of the Soviets! But this is not forever, of course!

[Reptiloid]

As you know, Victor, we have no ideology in law.
However, the vacant place immediately tries to take someone else.

Quote: rocket757

And who REALLY wants to realize that the game is going on in large, albeit with such, as it were, small, hidden methods?
There are a LOT of conversations, no real opposition is visible. They go back and forth, "lightning" all sorts of invented .... almost everything we get past. A generation of amateurs, poor students in the subject of ideology! ....!

They are not lousy, no, they are trying to shove the unpicked. The ideology of 10% of the population is - === foreign bourgeois, openly "" shy "", although words slip more and more often. This ideology cannot be accepted by the rest of the population, this is such a contradiction for them, they try to pretend, but- - an insoluble contradiction.

[Mountain shooter]

Few, few nuclear power plants. Up to half would bring. It's a pity to burn fossil fuel in the furnaces.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It's a pity to burn fossil fuel in the furnaces.

Uranus is also a fossil.

[rocket757]

Quote: Piramidon

Uranus is also a fossil

And also finite. We need more advanced technologies of nuclear, another type of energy. On another raw material.
We look forward to further development of technology.

[Mountain shooter]

So there is already such a technology. Fast neutron reactors. Which from 238 uranium produce plutonium, excellent "burning" in reactors on slow neutrons. And in Russia, launched an 800 megawatt, the most powerful in the world. And they are preparing a millionaire. There, "hot isotopes" can also be "afterburned" by reducing the waste activity very much ...

[Reptiloid]

As for the green Bill Gates, something ...... I read other articles that there is no desired result, in short.
Again, you have to, because of you, Victor, look for .... that would be exactly ....

[rocket757]

It is interesting when a person learns to extract energy from an "atom" (this is conditional) directly, this will be a BREAKTHROUGH in the energy sector !!! In the meantime, we have to use a complex (reactor + turbine + generator), indirect method.
WAITING S.

[Reptiloid]

All green shares are aimed at that, so that no growth and development would happen

Quote: rocket757

.... a person will learn to extract energy from an "atom" (this is conditional) directly, this will be a BREAKTHROUGH in the energy sector !!! In the meantime, we have to use a complex (reactor + turbine + generator), indirect method.

so that these dreams do not come true

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

All green shares are aimed at that, so that no growth and development would happen

Everything is also ambiguous there ... especially when they mix in such a thing, someone’s financial interests, then really oh!

Quote: Reptiloid

so that these dreams do not come true

Dreams Come True! They have been working on this topic for a long time. We are waiting for the results.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

..... Everything is also ambiguous there ... especially when they mix in such a thing, someone’s financial interests, then completely oh! ......

well, about Russia it’s clear ---- to brand as the intruder

[svp67]

It is noteworthy that this situation is established against the background of the European policy on the abandonment of nuclear power plants.

Yes yes, this is especially evident in France

[bouncyhunter]

Seryoga, hello and with the coming!

Quote: svp67

this is especially evident in France

But I remembered Lithuania from Ignalina NPP ...

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Seryoga, hello and with the coming!

Hello Pasha. You and all the squabblers also twice, HAPPY

Quote: bouncyhunter

But I remembered Lithuania from Ignalina NPP ...

And they from your nuclear power plant almost every day remember you. So that your feelings are MUTUAL.
And here, look, the time of what beauty has come. This is when there are severe frosts, then "light columns" are visible at night ... Beautiful

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: svp67

And they from you at your nuclear power plant almost every day remember

So it is - envy.

Quote: svp67

Handsomely

Not that word !

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

So it is - envy.

Let me go. They did not save their own, now let them envy.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: svp67

Do not save your

I would say - profiled. For the sake of the EU. And now they are trying to bite themselves by the elbow.

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

And now they are trying to bite themselves by the elbow.

Yes you are there, I don’t know what you are showing them there ...

[bouncyhunter]

The point is not what we show them and what they see, but that we must grunt against.

[fa2998]

Quote: KIBL

Yes, and let them close their nuclear power plants, Russia is better, in addition to oil and gas, it will be possible to sell electricity.

And the profit for the export of electricity, as it is now for oil and gas, will receive a narrow circle of "persons". And ordinary Russians will receive a constant increase in tariffs.
When they launched the Rostov NPP, they said in the area of ​​prices per kilowatt, figs will fall.

[minus]

Well, yes, they’ll fall, ohh .... Here you live in a zone of possible flooding from the SSHES and nothing, they don’t do any discounts))) Some 10 years ago I managed to watch a movie with the signature board of SSHES, horror !!!! A huge number of leaks and cracks, flooded technological tunnels .... The appalling state of water wells .... Maybe they strengthened of course .... They made a bypass channel .... But it does not get any easier.

[minus]

I’m lying, in 2007 he watched the film. Even before the accident.

[svp67]

Quote: fa2998

When they launched the Rostov NPP, they said in the area of ​​prices per kilowatt, figs will fall.

If we have a SINGLE network, starting or stopping power units affects the prices for industry more.

[Tersky]

Quote: fa2998

.A ordinary Russians, a constant increase in tariffs.

What would you understand was what the tariff is for the population. Industrial and non-industrial enterprises, institutions of all levels of budgets, agricultural producers, and private entrepreneurs pay extra for ordinary citizens. This is the so-called cross-subsidization that was used back in Soviet times, but exactly the opposite. Those. The population paid 4 kopecks per kWh, while the enterprises paid 1 kopeck. what reduced the cost of the final product. Today, the tariff for the same ipeshnik is around 8 rubles (for the population of the village within 3,3 rubles, for the city of 4,6) for the first price category (there are only six) with the voltage level of LV, but it has a difference in tariff from the buyer , selling a particular product at a higher price of the goods from the purchase. Those. thereby the population pays the difference in price per kWh. upon purchase of this or that product. For industrial enterprises such as ASO el. Energy is sold at a rate for power; the higher it is, the lower the tariff. In fact, the same wholesale, and wholesale is always cheaper than retail. The lower the tariff, the cheaper the final product that is bought in bulk and sold already with a wrap in retail.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Hochetsstsa wave intimate Germans covering one and a half gigpvatnik permanently. Green dreams to them!

[abrakadabre]

We are talking about the implementation of the project of the so-called "green energy", in which alternative energy sources (wind stations, etc.) are put at the forefront.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

You will laugh ... but I really drown with wood. Do not believe? Come to me.

[abrakadabre]

You will laugh ... but I really drown with wood. Do not believe? Come to me.

What have you got to do with it? It's about alternatively gifted Europe. You drown whatever you want or the more handy
When they publish an article about the analysis of our realities, then we will watch your heating under a microscope.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Well, what about me? Just where. And I really drown with wood. Well, you may not believe me, but I really drown with wood ...

[knn54]

And so that the tariffs do not set a "world record".

[evgen1221]

Here they will start to buy from us also electricity in large quantities, the same graters will begin discounts of deflections and kiddies like with gas.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Germans will bask under one blanket, a cunning fertility policy. There will be a scandal if the ideas are not green!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Nyap, in three years the Germans are planning to close all nuclear power plants. The strategy is "the neighbors will throw it over the border, uh, when the greens are shredded again." Green dreams for them.

[75 Sergey]

Germany is stimulating the withdrawal of energy-intensive (mostly dirty) industries outside its territory, hence the rejection of nuclear power plants, and wants the people to work more with their heads and not with their hands.

[gridasov]

The stupidity is that it is necessary to talk not about records, but about a systemic increase in generation in accordance with growing needs.

[abrakadabre]

talk not about records, but about a systemic increase in generation in accordance with growing needs.

And timely modernization / updating of existing generating capacities.

[gridasov]

A person has a perverted understanding of fundamentally important processes. It’s not necessary to upgrade endlessly, but simply to use different levels of energy reproduction. But apparently we are going to this, because tension is already critical

[eklmn]

“With all this, the closure of the same nuclear power plants in Germany now leads to certain consequences: Germany is not getting the proper volumes of electric energy, primarily for its industry. In this regard, German experts predict the likelihood of purchases of electric energy outside the country. This fact causes irritation among large industrialists of Germany ”
The downward trend in electricity consumption from coal / gas / oil / atom is aggressively fast. If this trend continues in 140 countries until 2050 (30 years, not so long), then 50% of electricity consumption in these countries will be renewable, i.e. windmills / sun / batteries.
In the footnote below there is a good picture showing a sharp decline in coal / gas / oil consumption.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-18/the-world-will-get-half-its-power-from-wind-and-solar-by-2050
2020 2050
coal 35% 11%
gas 23% 19%
atom 10% 6%
hydro 16% 12%
resumed 12% 50%

So German industrialists can only grumble. They will have to switch to more advanced technologies with less electricity consumption. And not only them ...

[tarakan]

It's time to introduce the term "gretenism" in psychiatry

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Rich

Russian nuclear power plants set a record for generation

Nevermind. From this, the tariffs have not become less.

If you were very little educated, you would understand the following: the price of 4 kopecks per cubic meter of gas in the USSR was an insurmountable obstacle to the country's gasification. There is not a single madman to entangle the country with hundreds of thousands of kilometers of pipes in order to receive infrastructure that will NEVER pay off. That is why they extended one or two pipes to the West and drove billions of cubic meters there, and we continue now. Already not one, two, but .....
You yourself will understand what is written here, or help?



Do you think that someday there will be a bright and clean future in our cities and villages in this current state of affairs?

[Nikolai Korovin]

Gas reserves, unfortunately, are also not inexhaustible, as was said at the 70th Congress of the CPSU about the natural resources of the USSR as a whole. Although more, probably, than uranium (of course, except for Kazakhstan). "You can also heat with banknotes" - however, D.I. Mendeleev said this about oil, but also applies to gas. There is no alternative to solar energy. It is also necessary to increase the efficiency of silicon-based elements (chalcopyrites will be expensive) and storage capacity. Graphene and its modifications. We won't go very far on the lithium. It is quite small, it is difficult to isolate it in its pure form. The fusion reminds the story of the emir, Khoja Nasreddin and the donkey. Money is buried, but there is no return to the network. Even if the product of temperature and pressure as in the Sun will be achieved, it is not a fact that this will lead to any acceptable efficiency (at least in the foreseeable future). So - we will support the domestic manufacturer, we will buy local solar-powered lighting sources that are already being produced! They serve in good conditions for a long time. A silicon solar-powered calculator made in the 20s has gone somewhere. About XNUMX years ago, I was still working for myself.

[Vadim237]

Oil and gas on earth will never end, since it is the same process of the cycle in nature, as well as water. Only hydrogen and helium fly into space.

[Svetlana]

If you were very little educated, you would understand the following: the price of 4 kopecks per cubic meter of gas in the USSR was an insurmountable obstacle to the country's gasification.

Approaching the economy of the Union from the point of view of the economy of capitalism, and this is your approach, you make a mistake. Tar in the USSR were of secondary importance.

[Vadim237]

For this, the resources were of primary importance since everyone was in short supply, and at the expense of the USSR’s money, air was needed like air and was chasing it.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: eklmn

So German industrialists can only grumble. They will have to switch to more advanced technologies with less electricity consumption. And not only them ...

Any perfection comes to an end. Sooner or later. Having BIG energy prices ALWAYS, they have already taken such steps, because, after all, it’s not the USSR with its gas prices 4 kopeks per cubic meter, 2 kopeks per kilowatt hour, a liter of gasoline is cheaper than soda, 7 rubles per ton of steel sheet, and did not learn how to save By digging and merging into ditches, so as not to cut the limits, they always saved and already have technologies that ALREADY PRACTICALLY .... You probably know that AT THE BEGINNING OF WORKS ON ECONOMY, the growth in efficiency is huge, but in the end it becomes small and expensive. Give an example of a Watt locomotive? The second design differed from the first in the huge growth of everything. But the last design was different from the penultimate thousandths of a percent of improvements, and a huge cost. A good way out is the removal of energy-intensive industries abroad. But, now, will such a feint help the ecology of the Earth as a whole?

[Nikolai Korovin]

Of course, nuclear energy has many very significant drawbacks. Disposal is not easy and in any case unsafe for people directly involved in this. I can say how a person who worked for three years with radioactive isotopes of different classes — both short-lived and long-lived, including a transuranium (Americium 243). But at this stage, in the presence of a large amount of uranium from various sources, by the way, and plutonium is being produced, nuclear energy is beneficial for Russia. But, of course, the share of solar energy in Russia (currently 0.1% of the installed capacity of power plants) needs to be increased, despite its current disadvantage. Slowly. At least 0,05% per year to begin with. Increase efficiency (there are developments), increase the capacity of drives. In addition, of course, new power lines to regions with increased insolation compared to other ones will be needed. But nuclear energy will be relevant for Russia for another 30 years. Of course, if a large number of followers of Greta Tunberg do not appear, which is extremely undesirable.

[Simargl]

Quote: Nikolai Korovin

But, of course, the share of solar energy in Russia (currently 0.1% of the installed capacity of power plants) needs to be increased, despite its current disadvantage.

Sown areas to reduce? Wow!
Solar energy is good not where the sun is, but where the land cannot be used for another economy (forestry, water, agriculture).
And our territory is almost 100% forest, water, fields.

[Tests]

In December 2019, the delegation of SEVMASH was at the next forum of power engineers in St. Petersburg, represented the 2nd (floating) unit of the Kislogubskaya TPP that SEVMASH built in mid-2000. All ahali-ohali, but SEVMASH has not signed a single contract for the manufacture of a block of a tidal power plant. There is not a single new project of the most environmentally friendly power plants implemented in Russia in the 19 years of the 21st century: neither in the Arkhangelsk region, nor in the Murmansk, nor in the Kamchatka Territory, only the Kislogubskaya TPP in the Murmansk Region has been revived. RusHydro has no money for the construction of a TPP in the Russian Federation ... I am glad that Rosatom has money for the Leningrad NPP and the Novovoronezh station.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Rich

Russian nuclear power plants set a record for generation

Nevermind. From this, the tariffs have not become less.

Under capitalism, the fact that someone produced more of a product never meant that it would become cheaper. Especially if it is a monopolist.

[Simargl]

Quote: Svetlana

Under capitalism, the fact that someone produced more of a product never meant that it would become cheaper. Especially if it is a monopolist.

Under capitalism, even if it is a monopolist, there are three ways not to discount the price: find markets, destroy overproduction, or send it to a drive (like wine).

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Class! Now the cost of a kilowatt-hour for us, Vyshnevolochan (it is 25 km. From KNPP), will be much cheaper! It's a shame, gentlemen, comrades ... Choke! And I’ll do the left count to your joy to console you ...

[Archivist Vasya]

For the future nuclear power plants! The risk is present of course, but it is minimal even when working with RBMK-1000.