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Russians don't want to let strangers into their home

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Most of them require restricting the entry into the regions of representatives of "certain nationalities"

The Russians agree to impose a ban on the entry of outsiders into their regions. The latter are understood to be people of other nationalities who previously “did not stand here”. Probably, someone will consider that such isolationist sentiments are bad. But isn't all countries practicing the same thing, using the visa system for this? By the way, it can sometimes be canceled, but only for pleasant nationalities, such as within the European Union, and even toughened for the rest, which is happening in the UK now.

But let us return to Russia, which has recently witnessed several major domestic conflicts on national grounds, such as what happened in the village of Demyanovo, Kirov Region, between local residents and the Dagestan diaspora. After Demyanovo, many residents of Russia noticed that in their settlements there are "contradictions" between the local population and visitors of other nationalities.

More than 60% of respondents would prefer that representatives of certain nationalities be restricted from entering the region, according to the Public Opinion Foundation (FOM), according to the results of a survey of residents of 43 subjects of the Russian Federation. No need to guess what nationalities are meant: I suppose not the Germans with the French and other Swedes who do not rush to us. More and more people come to us not from the West, but from the East. And although there are relatively few national conflicts, social and economic problems will expand the field for their occurrence, experts say.

By encouraging uncontrolled migration from Central Asia, the authorities thus contribute to the growth of nationalist sentiment. Over the past 13 years, more and more Russians have begun to share nationalist ideas, they say in the fund. 36% of the country's inhabitants believe that "people of indigenous nationality should have more rights."

But one should not see in it any signs of racism, the traditions of which we never had and do not have. Simply, people in this way try to protect the habitual environment that is rapidly changing before their eyes. Yesterday it was relatively homogeneous, and today it is filled with groups of other ethnic groups, walking around 2-4-6-8 people. Now they occupy only grassroots jobs, but this is only as long as they lack education and connections. When all this appears, the competition will move to a higher level.

In Europe, you can already see it with the naked eye. In London, for example, 40-50-year-olds often clean the streets under the eternal rain, while negros and Indians enjoy working as clerks in their offices, not hesitating to complement European business attire with national attributes like black turbans on their heads. They dress their women in black shapeless bags with slits for the eyes that look, frankly, wildly.

Anticipating a not too distant offensive of a similar time, sociologists testify that the titular advantage of the titular nation before the visitors began to come out, regardless of the level of education, income and age. The growth of these sentiments will appear even more impressive if we recall that 13 years ago only 18% of the population supported the same thing, and 76% thought that all nationalities should have equal rights. It would seem that as society develops, isolationist sentiments should weaken, but they only intensify. Apparently, the visitors, who, figuratively speaking, were allowed to warm themselves from poverty and unemployment in their homeland, somehow behave differently if a third of the respondents complain about the “dominance of foreigners” and claim that there are interethnic conflicts in their region.

But the main hostility and irritation of the inhabitants of Central Russia are concentrated in two directions - visitors from Central Asia and people from the North Caucasus. The latter, being citizens of Russia, for some reason are not perceived by the others as “their own”.

“In the Russian view, there are differences between the inhabitants of the North Caucasus and the rest of Russia. They always oppose themselves to them and do not perceive the inhabitants of these republics as their own, ”said in a conversation with“ Moscow the news»FOM specialist Irina Osipova. We don’t talk about one thing, but Osipova emphasized it. “Focusing on ethnicity” has become commonplace in our society, she said.

Dislike, they believe in the POF, is based on the reluctance of aliens to accept generally accepted behaviors and merge with local society. It would be easier to prevent potential conflicts if “visitors respected our laws and traditions,” respondents noted. Visitors often prefer to observe their own traditions. In the best case, rather loud national music is carried from their watchman booths and cars, and at worst - lezginka dances in the squares, mostly in the evening and at night.

Speaking of watchmen. Previously, we were convinced that the visitors go to the most difficult and dirty work, which the indigenous people will not do. But now they are increasingly appearing behind the rudders of minibuses, in all sorts of security booths and posts, at the cash desks of stores. The guards used to be considered solely a patrimony of the locals. Here began their gradual ousting from more privileged places.

Sociologists are also inclined to believe that the negative perception of others is aggravated by their own disorder of those who consider themselves "indigenous" citizens.

However, FOM does not dramatize the meaning of the results obtained. “Migration processes are never simple, and conflicts are possible, but the fact that only 10% of respondents were personally discriminated by nationality suggests that fears are somewhat exaggerated,” said Irina Osipova.

However, all this can be only for the time being. “This is an alarming signal that both the state and society should reconsider their attitude towards interethnic relations,” said Vladimir Zorin, deputy director of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences. He notes the rise in national intolerance in the country since 2008, and links this to the crisis.

In the meantime, law enforcement agencies are trying to ignore the national soil in any resonant conflicts. They qualified the events in Demyanovo as simply “riots” and hooliganism. Vladimir Zorin also sees in such clashes socio-economic and labor disputes, albeit with a clear national composition of the opposing sides. Guilty of the occurrence of conflicts should be sought in the regional and local administrations, he said. “It’s not Moscow that allocates space in the cemetery, in the market, it defines space for building a temple, a mosque, and a synagogue: these are issues of local self-government,” notes Zorin.

Another expert, the chairman of the supervisory board of the Institute for Demography, Migration and Regional Development, Yury Krupnov, says: "People do not react to nationality: they simply do not feel they are masters of the situation in their own territories." According to him, the reasons for the expansion of the inhabitants of the North Caucasus to the rest of Russia are the unresolved problems of this region - the lack of an economic base, “de-Russification of the territory”, “the corruption of local elites by uncontrolled financial injections and the strengthening of ethno-organized crime”. But our industry has also degraded, which made local residents vulnerable. “It is necessary to provide residents of the regions with the opportunity to earn honestly, not to depend on the newcomers and not be afraid of them,” Krupnov believes.

No doubt, all this is necessary, but by what means and for how long? All this is not done in one day, a year or even a decade. And so far there is nothing like that, it would be time to put the visa barriers in front of those who want to taste the Russian pie, as all European countries do without exception.
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  1. Knowing
    Knowing 20 July 2012 08: 19
    +8
    I have long flown this thought in my head to close the borders for immigrants as well as with China
    minus only - these countries will be indignant
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 20 July 2012 08: 56
      +6
      Quote: Knowing
      I have long flown this thought in my head to close the borders for immigrants as well as with China

      Along with the North Caucasus? The article is about his non-indigenous ...
    2. pribolt
      pribolt 20 July 2012 09: 20
      +8
      It was necessary to do this yesterday already, but we have all the water in the mortar crumple ....
    3. dark_sp
      dark_sp 20 July 2012 22: 12
      0
      Accept only Slovens and that's it !! The rest of the basta !! About that it turns out the contrary is called Slavs, they go a little and every shushora goes, and even how !!
      1. Sablezub
        Sablezub 21 July 2012 00: 04
        +3
        dear, I’m Russian, my father was born in Arkhangelsk, but I live in Moldova ... having arrived in Russia to work or to live permanently for you, I will remain Moldovan ... national moods are very strong in Russia (and I know this firsthand ) ... and do not confuse a healthy solution to the issue with cheap racism ...
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 21 July 2012 05: 44
          -3
          Quote: Sablezub

          Dear, I am Russian

          Quote: Sablezub
          but I live in Moldova

          Quote: Sablezub
          Arriving in Russia

          Quote: Sablezub
          for you I will remain Moldovan


          The Russians in Baku say the same thing.
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 20 July 2012 08: 19
    +3
    And I, I stay

    Where I want to be
    And may I be a little afraid
    But I, I stay
    I stay to live!

    "Black Obelisk" Tolya Krupnov.
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 08: 29
    +15
    Yes, really start to reach someone. There is a problem, and every day it is more and more difficult not to notice it. I hope some measures will be taken.
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 20 July 2012 08: 34
      +4
      Good afternoon, Alexander.

      Do you have something bad with China there?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 09: 19
        +11
        Yes, there are no problems wandering, but there are enough "friends" from the Caucasus. The most interesting thing is that there are much more of them than the Chinese and are being led more impudently, especially in the markets.
        1. wall
          wall 20 July 2012 10: 50
          +3
          This is because the Chinese here still do not feel quite at home. Read how they behave in the Far East and in Siberia. Not better than humpbacked.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 10: 57
            +6
            Quote: wall
            Read how they behave in the Far East and in Siberia.

            But what for read newspapers to me, I myself live in the Far East and I know how they behave themselves here. To whom, to whom, and the Chinese are far from Caucasians!
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 20 July 2012 08: 54
      +8
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      There is a problem, and every day it’s more difficult not to notice it

      Sasha, Ivan welcome men! Only the blind cannot see this problem. The lack of punishment for some hurts the consciousness of others, it turns out that the second role is assigned to the radical, he is not the owner on his own land, but a newcomer with a proud dignity "Russian".
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 09: 16
        +8
        Quote: Tersky
        he is not a master on his own land, but a newcomer with a proud dignity "Russian"

        Victor and that’s it!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 20 July 2012 15: 46
          +7
          We have such an anecdote in the Krasnodar Territory: Do you know when the Cossacks cry? When the Armenians sing "You are Kuban, you are our Motherland ..."! This, of course, is just a joke, and with the Armenians, as a rule, there are no interethnic conflicts, as well as with other representatives of the Caucasian republics, they got used to them, and they also adapted to the local situation. Most of the conflicts occur with the Kurds and Meskhs, who really began to displace the local population from their homes. Their ideology is not entirely clear to local residents (I include not only Russians, but also the same Armenians, Circassians, Moldovans, Bulgarians, Greeks), in addition, taking advantage of their position of "immigrants", they get great opportunities to be introduced into various local self-government bodies , and also enjoy benefits for which they do not want to pay.
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 20 July 2012 16: 01
            -3
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Most conflicts occur with Kurds

            Have they reached you? I did not know did not know. Hm.
          2. matex
            matex 20 July 2012 16: 52
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Most conflicts occur with Kurds and Meskhs, who really began to displace the local population from the habitable places.

            I don’t know the Meskheti peppers by hearsay, but it was not a very pleasant acquaintance with the Kurds in Kyrgyzstan either.
      2. lotus04
        lotus04 20 July 2012 21: 15
        +3
        Quote: Tersky
        it turns out that the root is given a second role,


        Not even the second and not the fifth. If the hunchback knocks you, this is a "commonplace", and if you are to him, it is already genocide, racism, etc. and so on .. The policy of the "Kremlin".
  4. korvin1976
    korvin1976 20 July 2012 08: 55
    +3
    It may be good ideas about restrictions on entry into the territory of Russia, but what about the areas that belong to the Russian Federation?
    What to do with the residents of the Caucasus region of the Russian Federation?
    But the article says, not only about Uzbeks, Tajiks and Chinese, but also about Dagestanis, Avars, Ossetians and other small nations.
    What about the fact that now in Moscow, residents of neighboring regions have to almost hide from law enforcement agencies checking the registration? Why am I Russian living in the Tula region, I can not normally come to Moscow and walk freely for several days?
    I agree that it is necessary to some extent restrict entry from neighboring sovereign states, but only to some extent, and not introduce a visa regime. Many living in Russia have many relatives and friends in the same former Soviet republics. How to be them in order to come to visit me? Get a visa?
    It is necessary to restrict entry, but it must be done correctly and exclusively only for neighboring sovereign states.
  5. patriot2
    patriot2 20 July 2012 09: 09
    +7
    As one gaster said, lounging on the seat of a St. Petersburg trolleybus: "You are here as a guest, and we are at home." And so he thinks and, most importantly, so they all live here in Russia.
    And the authorities are up to one place, an example of how "Piggy" visited a "people's" store - as a result, the store thrives on, "guests" from Central Asia are released, the ribs of "Piggy" are broken! Of course they are here at home. Do you need to be stricter with residents - citizens of Russia? These are realities, not nonsense from the TV screen.
    1. scrack
      scrack 20 July 2012 10: 49
      +7
      And with such a foot in the face you will move the term you can get slopped, although you will be right, and not this Gaster
    2. lotus04
      lotus04 20 July 2012 21: 25
      0
      Quote: patriot2
      These are realities, not nonsense from the TV screen.


      And you can. Who wants, he can. As I heard, Putin wants to send Gaster to the regions. He himself will not be glad. that such a crap muddied up.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RpVK8OZno
  6. understudy
    understudy 20 July 2012 09: 27
    +1
    Nda ... and "some" intend to send foreigners to the Armed Forces for the right to obtain Russian citizenship.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 20 July 2012 15: 52
      +1
      Here they will receive weapons, assemble and take this right themselves, waiting for official permission!
  7. volcano
    volcano 20 July 2012 09: 28
    +9
    The country's leadership is easier not to notice problems than to try to solve them.
    Such a passive position will not bring to good.

    Tiny refinement. The fact is that, in fact, in general, there is no experience of living together with the inhabitants of the North Caucasus and Central Asia.
    See for yourself. The Caucasus became part of the Russian Empire in the second half of the 19th century, as did Central Asia. And they could be considered full-fledged Russian territories at best by the end of the 19th century (and even then with periodic armed struggle.
    Further, both of these regions became part of Russia as a result of wars, i.e. not on our own say so.
    And as a result: A couple of decades together, and then ... 1 MV ... Revolution ... Civil War ........ Severe Stalin ... WWII .... (it is clear that during these periods it was somehow not at all to solve the problems with the "come in large numbers") what do we have then? only the experience of living together during the USSR period, but then no one really went to the RSFSR, everyone lived in their own house.

    I think that our leaders understand all this. They understand that this has never happened, and therefore do not know what to do about it.
    and all the cries about fraternal peoples and "we have lived together for centuries" are just the cries of people who either do not know the question or are provocateurs.

    WE HAVE NOT LIVED WITH THESE CENTURIES. For example, yes, they lived with the Tatars, but not with the Caucasus and Central Asia.

    SO THERE IS NO RECIPE, AND IF WE WANT TO EXIST TOGETHER TOGETHER, IT NEEDS TO INVENT.
    AND INVENT QUICKLY UNTIL THE SITUATION WAS OUT OF CONTROL.
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 20 July 2012 12: 11
      -1
      I think that it was you and the Tatars who didn’t live together - otherwise you would not have written this stupidity ...
      1. volcano
        volcano 20 July 2012 19: 02
        +1
        Brother Sarych, I was tired of your comments yesterday. Doubting Thomas.
        And today you soar your brains.

        Do you have any arguments? bring ... If not, then God is with you.

        And learn the subject in the end. Before you call something stupid.

        But minus you not me wink


        And by the way, your Uzbekistan, if I correctly recognized the flag of course, also became part of the Russian Empire at the end of the 19th century.
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 20 July 2012 09: 29
    +7
    Gastroki-Strebreicher feeder for officials of all ranks, the basis of corruption and crime.
  9. Happiness
    Happiness 20 July 2012 09: 34
    +10
    With their charter, they don’t go to someone else’s monastery. But people from the Caucasus don't give a damn about it. Annoyed by their impudence and disrespect for the culture of the region where they came for permanent residence. I think soon the number of conflicts like ours in Demyanovo will increase sharply throughout the country. Since the police do not protect the interests of the indigenous population, this will be done by the citizens themselves (especially after the legalization of short-barreled weapons).
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 20 July 2012 15: 56
      +5
      The main thing is that this very indigenous population does not cease to exist after the legalization of weapons. Caucasian guys are smart and friendly! By the way, this is a good example to take from them!
  10. Chuck-norris
    Chuck-norris 20 July 2012 09: 48
    +6
    Russians need to give birth and raise children. Beggars Muslims on 5-9 children manage to feed. And our society is only 1-2. A shame!
    1. FID
      FID 20 July 2012 10: 27
      +4
      It's still great - 1-2 - in fact - 0,5-0,6 comes out. Do not give birth to Russians.
  11. Sars
    Sars 20 July 2012 09: 55
    +12
    There was an interesting story with the guest workers (with Tajiks).
    First, they dumped in construction - they worked at prices significantly lower than local ones. The authorities said that this is very wonderful - the cost of construction will decrease. Time passed - the Russians, to a large extent, left construction. But "our friends" now ask for much more for their work. Although their qualifications over the years have remained the same.
    It turns out that the state has lost (it has lost normal specialists and got "guests"), specific Russians have lost who have less work.
    1. Sablezub
      Sablezub 21 July 2012 00: 11
      +3
      for the work that Tajiks, Moldovans, Turkmens, etc. do, you, dear, will not go ... because they pay little and work not in offices ... I myself am from Moldova and saw the "Russians" who, as you call, guest workers are not considered people and they are treated like cattle ... and these Russians did not care that I was Russian too ...
  12. Stelth
    Stelth 20 July 2012 09: 55
    +3
    Any empire is doomed to collapse with the growth of the national question. The only thing that the authorities were able to come up with to resolve this issue was art. 282 of the Criminal Code.
  13. Ataturk
    Ataturk 20 July 2012 09: 59
    -1
    Very interesting article. More precisely the topic. And even more interesting to read comments. To know what the Russian people think of WHOLE nations.
    1. Knowing
      Knowing 20 July 2012 11: 31
      +12
      Quote: Ataturk
      To know what the Russian people think of WHOLE nations.

      Or how INDIVIDUAL personalities are presented to us by entire nations.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 20 July 2012 16: 00
      +5
      I already wrote about this, but I will repeat myself - there are no bad nations, there are bad people, bad upbringing and a "different" mentality!
    3. kush62
      kush62 20 July 2012 18: 54
      +5
      I am not a nationalist, but you would have seen your young countrymen in the Krasnoyarsk radio market, always scratching their eggs. And in the next apartment there are absolutely decent and normal people, also fellow countrymen. With the upbringing of all the problems, that's because of this and the problem !!!
  14. Averias
    Averias 20 July 2012 10: 04
    +11
    I have never been a racist, nationalist, etc. But sometimes the impudence in the behavior of the "guests" starts to strain and there is a desire ... ) mainly their young representatives, who felt all the permissiveness. The question was resolved pretty quickly. The riot police intervened, and in some cases quite harshly. After the bloody snot scattered on the asphalt and the adults were explained the inadmissibility of such behavior, and what it is fraught with. That's it, the problem was over, the problem with inappropriate behavior with representatives of hot regions was also solved.
    1. Evgeny B.
      Evgeny B. 20 July 2012 18: 38
      +4
      Averias. That is just the point, when there is adequate power, problems are easily solved. However, looking at the Russian media, the Russians are blamed for everything, and this leads to impunity and impudence of visitors. There should be a state policy on this issue, only those who accept our laws of behavior can be left in Russia, the rest can be sent home for permanent residence.
  15. Sars
    Sars 20 July 2012 10: 11
    -5
    It is necessary to introduce "equal presence". There are 800 Russians in Baku, 000 Azerbaijanis in Moscow, 800 Russians in Grozny, 000 Chichen residents in Moscow, and so on. And there will be international peace.
    1. Vito
      Vito 20 July 2012 10: 52
      +6
      An interesting thought. I would like to look at the RUSSIAN volunteers who will go to live in GROZNY? If the media do not lie, then in ICHKERIA our people are almost gone! People WANT to live.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 11: 00
      +5
      Quote: SarS
      Baku 800 000 Russians - in Moscow 800 000 Azerbaijanis, in Grozny 1 000 000 Russians - in Moscow 1 000 000 Chichens and so on. And there will be interethnic peace.

      You yourself will go to Baku or so, let others go.?
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 20 July 2012 13: 51
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You yourself will go to Baku or so, let others go.?

        What does Baku not suit you with? You write carefully about Baku. You do not confuse it with other cities. They will accept anyone as a native. Yes, they will accept that you do not understand whether you are visiting or at home.

        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 14: 10
          +6
          Quote: Ataturk

          and WHAT does not suit you Baku

          I have nothing! Nice modern city! Omar, you don’t seem to talk to me, I kind of lost the legitimacy in your eyes because I support Armenians laughing Do not be angry is my choice!

          Quote: Ataturk
          You write carefully about Baku.

          Omar, in my mouth legs, how much they scared me in my life. You sit on the Russian site, respect decency. I'm not shy.
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 20 July 2012 14: 11
            -4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Omar, you don’t seem to talk to me, I kind of lost the legitimacy in your eyes due to the fact that I support Armenians


            You are thinking right. Just Baku is my city. And I am part of my city. and I don’t go through my city, especially when they write, to say the least, with hints that Russians are offended in Baku.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Do not be angry is my choice!

            Your right.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 20 July 2012 14: 17
              +5
              Quote: Ataturk

              You get it right. Just Baku is my city. And I am part of my city. and I don’t go past my city, especially when they write

              Read my comment carefully, it was not related to the tank, but to the person who suggested overpowering the Russians in Baku. And I also support South Ossetia, the Transnistria and many others, America also condemns Russia for supporting Syria, but somehow we spit on it.
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 20 July 2012 14: 26
                -2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And I support South Ossetia

                Support while they live there, if they come to Moscow to earn money, I will see how to support.

                I’ll say frankly that if Azerbaijan were part of Russia like Tatarstan or Chechnya or Bashkiria and at the same time they told me, do not come to our place, I would be the first to raise my hand for disconnecting.

                Therefore, I often cannot understand the comments when they write that citizens of the North Caucasus should be protected from Russia. But are they not part of Russia? What difference does it make where a Russian citizen lives in Vladik or in St. Petersburg ... But I don’t see it with you ... Only Russians can live where they want on the territory of Russia and let the Caucasians at home. Even in the Army they decided to gather Chechens and leave them in Chechnya. It's right? Now imagine Russian would say so.

                These are not my words. and yours here .... in the comments.

                AT ALL ... GOODBYE AND EVERYTHING GOOD!
        2. Grumbler
          Grumbler 20 July 2012 15: 01
          +7
          Quote: Ataturk
          They will accept anyone as a native. Yes, they will accept that you do not understand whether you are visiting or at home.

          That’s if I’ll not visit my friend for long ... And if I’ll come as a builder and start dumping, turn on my music loudly ... and don’t let me pester the local beauties - what then?
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 20 July 2012 15: 23
            -1
            Quote: Grunt
            .And if I come as a builder

            builders from China to the USA work in Baku.

            Quote: Grunt
            turn on your music loudly ...

            Then you really need to go to Baku. We love music. Any. We also love Russian music !!! As if a music lover did not leave Baku. Moreover, they will teach you which speakers and bass speakers to take to beat the brain. So if music, then you need to go to Baku !!! You will walk around the city and some sounds such dups dups dups))))))))))) so that we have a disco everywhere))) on the roads and in houses and clubs. The main thing to remember, if you are driving, stay farther from LADA 07 and 06, they are shortly called autos. Do not even try to overtake them, even if you are on a Ferrari. You still can’t. Moreover, you will break it.



            Quote: Grunt
            and don’t let, don’t bring to pester local beauties - what then?

            If the local beauty is busy, then he will send you! So don’t be afraid! Moreover, there are a lot of beautiful girls in Baku, and even more so for every taste and color and nationalities. So do not be afraid ... we will find you a beauty. drinks
            1. Oleg0705
              Oleg0705 20 July 2012 18: 50
              -3
              Quote: Ataturk
              So do not be afraid ... we will find you a beauty.


              Omar, friend, brother take your gift no offense feel too temperamental return my padarok if you have not gifted
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 20 July 2012 19: 47
                -4
                Quote: Oleg0705
                Omar, friend, brother take your gift no offense too temperamental return my bunny if you don’t


                hahahahahaahah)))))))))))))))) yours in the harem but from the grief there is no turning back))))))))))
                1. Kamilla
                  Kamilla 20 July 2012 19: 52
                  -2
                  Quote: Ataturk
                  yours in a harem and from grief there is no turning back)


                  you can escape from the harem wink
                  1. Oleg0705
                    Oleg0705 20 July 2012 20: 12
                    -1
                    Kamilla,

                    Sister help her run, please don’t refuse life without no help crying
                    Mariana's name is Omar until the protection of the harem intensified hurry
                2. Oleg0705
                  Oleg0705 20 July 2012 19: 52
                  -1
                  Ataturk,

                  Take it then crying give at least one more time not to look ah?
                  1. Ataturk
                    Ataturk 20 July 2012 20: 17
                    -3
                    Quote: Oleg0705
                    give at least one more time not to look ah?

                    is she otherwise there are so many

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                    1. Oleg0705
                      Oleg0705 20 July 2012 20: 19
                      -1
                      who does you palm off on me? crying the one I gave you
                      1. Ataturk
                        Ataturk 20 July 2012 20: 30
                        -3
                        Quote: Oleg0705
                        the one I gave you



                        can she?


                        I’ll go revision I will find!
                      2. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 20 July 2012 20: 32
                        -1
                        Ataturk,

                        no no she crying
                    2. Kamilla
                      Kamilla 21 July 2012 20: 14
                      0
                      Quote: Ataturk
                      is she otherwise there are so many


                      Omar, that brunette was ...... nothing escapes the female eye smile
                      1. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 21 July 2012 23: 21
                        0
                        Kamilla,

                        Like a brunette !!! I have no more strength, at least once again to look at her and I do not want to die without her crying
    3. sams
      sams 20 July 2012 20: 09
      0
      What's so incomprehensible?
      It is proposed, in the case of a permanent place of residence and (or) Russian stay, for example in the X Republic, in the amount of 100 people, to have an equal presence of x-citizens in Russia for permanent residence.
      Effective offer.
  16. IRBIS
    IRBIS 20 July 2012 10: 15
    +24
    Imagine: the city of Grozny, a quiet evening, three Russian men gathered in the park after work, on the newspaper - vodka, bacon, cucumbers .... Can you imagine? So I can't. So why "comrades" newcomers allow themselves in our Russian cities to do what is considered daily life in their villages and auls? I am not a zealous nationalist, but when I see this, there is a wild desire to show them my national identity - making faces without explaining the reasons!
    1. wall
      wall 20 July 2012 10: 54
      +11
      A plus! Or such slaughterhouse: A crowd of well-drunk and cheerful Russians with balalaikas and in folk costumes sang Russian folk songs all night and took dances in the central square of the city of Grozny, not far from the main mosque.
      1. Chuck-norris
        Chuck-norris 20 July 2012 13: 00
        +3
        What should you have fun to get drunk?
    2. Chuck-norris
      Chuck-norris 20 July 2012 12: 59
      +11
      Need to drink toss. Drinking even once a week is considered alcoholism.
      The Russians never drank like that.
      I don’t drink or smoke for 5 years, and I feel great!
  17. Ataturk
    Ataturk 20 July 2012 10: 15
    -1
    Quote: SarS
    in Grozny 1 Russians

    are you kidding? Yes, in Grozny there have never been a million Russians.

    Quote: SarS
    It is necessary to introduce "equal presence"

    You are not reasoning correctly. It is necessary to calculate and take into account the percentage of what area and how much. In Azerbaijan, Russians are 2% of the total population. Now count ...........


    National composition in the Russian Federation (2011)
    Russian 80,91%
    Tatars 3,9%
    Ukrainians 1,4%
    Bashkirs 1,2%
    Chuvashs 1,0%
    Chechens 1,0%
    Armenians 0,9%
    Azerbaijanis 0,4% INVALIDATION 1.6%
    Other 9,7%
    1. wall
      wall 20 July 2012 10: 58
      +1
      And how many other nationalities mentioned by you in this table live in Azerbaijan? (including other "Chinese")
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 20 July 2012 13: 44
        +1
        Quote: wall
        And how many other nationalities indicated by you in this table live in Azerbaijan?

        in the first table was Russian.
        secondly, the difference is that both Russians and Ukrainians and many others live in Azerbaijan, but we never say ... this one is supposedly not Azerbaijanian ... everyone who is from the former USSR is ours. We consider it bad form to say ... YOU ARE RUSSIAN or LISTEN YOU ARE WALKING OR YOU ARE GEORGIANS ... This is considered to be a bad manners. Such people are severely punished !!!

        The Chinese are not ours ... although they are. Gastrailers.
        1. wall
          wall 20 July 2012 14: 01
          +3
          All other ethnic groups living in Azerbaijan have been living there for the most part since the days of the Soviet Union. The fact is that all the above-mentioned ethnic groups do not go to work in Azerbaijan, they just have been living there for a long time. In Russia, too, many ethnic groups have lived for centuries, but the topic of this article is illegal (legal) immigration. From other countries, the youngest, passionate and often adventurous natures come to us. This creates the main problem - Russian rejection. But in the native countries of these young people, passionary moods, on the contrary, decrease due to the outflow of young men. I read about Tajikistan recently, in the villages there were only women and old people, all the young men left to work in Russia. And if these hungry and strong men filled the big cities of their home countries?
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 20 July 2012 14: 15
            -1
            Quote: wall
            The fact is that Azerbaijan does not go to work


            Xm. They go as they go. The whole West earns money in Baku. From engineers to teachers and gastrailers.



            This creates the main problem - Russian rejection.


            I’ll take off ((((((((((

            Quote: wall
            I read about Tajikistan recently, in the villages there were only women and old people, all the young men left to work in Russia.

            This is not so with us. Believe me.
            1. wall
              wall 20 July 2012 14: 55
              +2
              Quote: Ataturk
              Xm. They go as they go. The whole West earns money in Baku. From engineers to teachers and gastrailers.

              It is believed that Western migrant workers and eastern migrants are still slightly different.
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 20 July 2012 15: 02
                -1
                Quote: wall
                It is believed that Western migrant workers and eastern migrants are still slightly different.


                I agree.
    2. Armata
      Armata 20 July 2012 10: 59
      +4
      Greetings to Omar. I always said that high with them, let them live. Only with the condition that to work and pay taxes honestly, to honor and observe the customs of the people on whose land the state language is with us, Russian means before you get to Russia you need to learn it normally (and sometimes it is distorted so much that it becomes painful)
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 20 July 2012 13: 48
        0
        Quote: Steam Train
        Greetings to Omar.

        Hi Zhen. How are you my friend?

        Quote: Steam Train
        Only with the condition that to work and pay taxes honestly

        It’s not their fault, but those Russians who sell them permanent residence in Russia, those who give them work, employers, who they are the deceivers of the tax inspectorate.

        Quote: Steam Train
        to honor and abide by the customs of the people on whose land the state language is with us


        I fully agree and support.
        1. Armata
          Armata 20 July 2012 14: 20
          +1
          Quote: Ataturk
          Hi Zhen. How are you my friend?

          The best. smile I live, I work, vacation is coming soon. fellow
          I watched a movie about Baku above. Very beautiful city. It would be easier to go there, I would definitely bring my family. But unfortunately alas.
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 20 July 2012 14: 35
            -2
            Quote: Steam Train
            I watched a movie about Baku above. Very beautiful city. It would be easier to go there, I would definitely bring my family.


            Remember Zhen, for friends like you, the doors of Baku are open day and night. Always welcome. I promise and give a guarantee that you will not feel like visiting.

            Quote: Steam Train
            I watched a movie about Baku above.


            Now read :)

            1. Armata
              Armata 20 July 2012 14: 59
              +5
              Well, about the hospitality and kindness of Azerbaijanis, I know it firsthand. I have some acquaintances of your countrymen, one so my wife (when she goes to his store to buy vegetables) all the time treats with something (either he will fill cherries or figs), and this is only because I once agreed to give his child a lift to school, when he himself could not do it. There is one principle that I am always guided by in life. There are no bad peoples, there are bad people.
              1. Ataturk
                Ataturk 20 July 2012 15: 06
                +3
                Quote: Steam Train
                I once agreed to give his child a ride to school

                I have a principle .... so that they don’t do it, I’ll answer 10 times more. Usually we can appreciate even the usual kind gesture. I wish your family happiness and prosperity.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 20 July 2012 16: 12
                  +3
                  Dear Ataturk, please tell me how expensive is accommodation and travel in Azerbaijan? Just since childhood, I dreamed of visiting your country, looking at nature ...
                  1. Ataturk
                    Ataturk 20 July 2012 19: 53
                    -2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Dear Ataturk, please tell me how expensive is accommodation and travel in Azerbaijan? Just since childhood, I dreamed of visiting your country, looking at nature ...


                    Good evening Igor. Traveling around the country itself is cheap. Food in Baku itself, European-style restaurants, the prices are yours, but outside of Baku it’s cheaper.
              2. valton
                valton 20 July 2012 20: 12
                0
                With "Parovoz" I agree one hundred percent. There are no bad people, there are bad people.
  18. dmb
    dmb 20 July 2012 10: 56
    +7
    "An obliging fool is more dangerous than the enemy." Only this saying can be used to evaluate the article. The second option is provocation. In contrast to such unfounded accusations on the part of the "pevdopatriots" I can substantiate my opinion. When the title of the article "The Russians do not want to let outsiders ..." and the text speaks about the inhabitants of the Caucasus, this means only one thing - the author does not consider the Caucasus a territory of Russia. So what should you call it after that? There are only two options, they are given above. in fact, the author expresses the aspirations of our foreign "friends" so unloved by the majority on the site. In one of my articles, I have already posed a number of specific questions for those who like to "separate". Of course, I didn't get an intelligible answer to any of them.
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 20 July 2012 12: 13
      -1
      I agree - the article aims to split the country, most of the comments gladly support this ...
      1. kush62
        kush62 20 July 2012 19: 20
        0
        and 5 minutes ago Brother Sarych wrote
    2. Sablezub
      Sablezub 21 July 2012 14: 10
      +1
      we were one people and lived in harmony and respect ... but because of such fighters for the purity of the nation they pull us away from the corners of different camps ... those who understand what politicians are doing to us and bureaucrats understand where our legs are growing, and who is dark, these are the ones who make fighters for the purity of the nation ... Gentlemen, one of the idiologists of the Third Reich, Hess, said Germany for the Germans! And what did the world get from this? Now Russia’s slogans for Russians begin to sound ... it seems, gentlemen, I already heard something like that ...
  19. scrack
    scrack 20 July 2012 10: 59
    +5
    The main thing is that the representatives of the Caucasus and Central Asia mainly understand the language of power, otherwise they will not respect you. They must be rebuffed, sometimes physically, otherwise their impudence is sometimes prohibitive. Recently, one such "soldier" from the Caucasus was convicted for the fact that he forced 9 Russian colleagues to write one letter on his back and the expression "... super" was obtained, and then he was photographed against their background, so to speak, for demobilization album
  20. Sars
    Sars 20 July 2012 11: 15
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    You yourself will go to Baku or so, let others go.?

    Dear novels and other dull comrades, I’m talking about this:
    There are no Russians in Grozny, though respected residents of the republic live in it.
    1. Vito
      Vito 20 July 2012 12: 01
      +1
      SarS EN. Now I understand you! I apologize for the wrong answer.
      Request to you, express your thoughts more clearly!
      Sincerely.
  21. S t AL i N
    S t AL i N 20 July 2012 11: 18
    +2
    The problem is visible to the naked eye. I believe that everything should be resolved at the federal level, and while our government looks at this "through its fingers", such conflicts as in the Kirov region will constantly occur, I also think that the emphasis should be on educational processes, to introduce some subjects associated with the study of other national cultures. Otherwise, it will turn out that soon the primordial "Russian muzhik" somewhere in central Russia will become a national minority crying
  22. strannik595
    strannik595 20 July 2012 11: 27
    +6
    ignoring the national question is worse than the use of nuclear weapons for the state. You can lose everything ....... We must agree to be able to ........ adequate and reasonable people make up the backbone of any nation ....... no matter how corny it sounds, good is such a thing that is usually not visible and evil is strikingly and defiantly striking. I came to St. Petersburg from Tajikistan 12 years ago (Russian itself), and how many of you know that during the Patriotic War, Tajik and Uzbek families adopted and adopted Russian orphans, fought (maybe not as good as the Russians, but still) shoulder to shoulder with Russian fighters. In almost every Tajik and Uzbek city there are Monuments to the Unknown Soldier with the names of those who did not return from that war. Yes, and I myself from experience, because I was born and raised in Tajikistan, I know that they are overwhelmingly kind and hospitable people, cakes when the neighbors baked, always brought us, treated us. Thugs, rich and arrogant enough among us, Russian. So kind people should be together and keep bastards under their fingernails ......... I think so .......... no tantrums .......... need to be adults and wise ........ otherwise we will tear Russia apart
  23. ughhh
    ughhh 20 July 2012 12: 01
    +9
    Soon the Russians in general will all take a break from drugs and booze. And because rarely where you will meet more than one child in the family. And young families will have normal, frankly, malawat. And because there is no mutual assistance between the Russians. Whining only all those in power ### darasy. Turned into a country of homosexuals and whiners, because.
    1. S t AL i N
      S t AL i N 20 July 2012 12: 15
      +3
      And what is being done so that this same Russian family exists normally, even if they pay normally and the correct birth policy is carried out, then there will be additions in the family. In our outback, not against 3 or 4 children, but the question is different , what to keep these same 3-4 children? request
    2. Vito
      Vito 20 July 2012 12: 16
      0
      ughhh, Hello.
      Quote: ughhh
      Soon the Russians in general will all take a break from drugs and booze. And because rarely where you will meet more than one child in the family.

      Oh, how I would like YOU to be wrong, but Alas, all the facts indicate that YOU are RIGHT!
  24. skullcap
    skullcap 20 July 2012 12: 17
    +10
    1. “In the view of Russians, there are differences between the inhabitants of the North Caucasus and the rest of Russia. They always oppose themselves to them and do not perceive the inhabitants of these republics as their own,”
    ------------------------------------------------
    This is a one-sided judgment about Russians. I did not live in the Caucasus, but I lived in Central Asia. I can testify that the locals just did not perceive the Russians as their own. Repeatedly heard in controversial situations: "Drive your own Russia", often observed the situation in stores: when the turn of the Russian buyer approached, the seller from the local ones, pointedly did not notice him, letting go of the locally suitable ones.
    In fairness, I should note that over time the situation has changed for the better, especially noticeably after the return of local "partisans" from Afghanistan.
    But, nevertheless, this approach continues to take place not only on the part of the Russians, but also on the part of all other nationalities, as the recent bloody conflicts between local nationalities in the Caucasus and in the Middle East indisputably testify. Asia
    Blaming only Russians is unfair.


    2. Apparently, the visitors, who, figuratively speaking, were allowed to bask in poverty and unemployment in their homeland, behave somehow wrong if one third of the respondents complain about the "dominance of foreigners" and claim that ethnic conflicts are frequent in their region.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    And also people, including Russians, are able to analyze events taking place in the world and try to use the gained experience to protect their interests.
    A recent example of Yugoslavia testifies: the Serbs allowed the settlement of their historical homeland by the “migrated” Albanians. The latter began to establish their own rules, understood as their undeniable dominance over stupid Serbs. The belated attempt of the Serbs to return their native land to control completely failed, because the entire world "progressive community" with arms in their hands stood up for the parasites who came against the Serbs, accusing the latter of all imaginable sins and regularly creating a Hague court over them. And absolutely not noticing the many times the large-scale crimes of the Albanians who committed atrocities like the Nazis until the cutting of civilian Serbs into donor organs. Here, both Democrats and Liberals display iron discipline.
    That is, in Yugoslavia, the Russian folk tale “On the huts of bast and ice” was brought to life, when the kind, but short-sighted, Zaychik let the cunning and treacherous Fox into the house that he built with his labor. And she just kicked him out.
    The difference is that in real life, strong neighbors did not side with the victim of the conflict, but with the criminal Albanians.
    Here Russians do not want a repetition of this situation on their land.
    And what is fascist and chauvinist here?
    Only criminals who have laid eyes on the Russian wealth created by the hard work of many generations of the Russian people can claim this. Or their minions.
    1. wulf66
      wulf66 20 July 2012 13: 23
      +7
      I completely agree!!! either we will make visitors respect themselves and their customs, or they will crush us sooner or later. A life example, was on a business trip in Moscow, on a bus two Caucasians clung to a girl, began to cling and loose their hands. I intervened, CRASHING BETWEEN THE STANDING AROUND PEOPLE. Kavkakztsev dragged into the street and imposed. But imagine a situation somewhere in the Caucasus, can non-Caucasians guys molest a girl like that? How long will they live? First of all, we must learn to respect ourselves. Then, visitors will begin to respect us and our customs. Well, they are so arranged that they understand only strength, talk is taken for weakness.
      1. kush62
        kush62 20 July 2012 19: 25
        +1
        The fact is that there Caucasians will not molest. Those who mean something always stay at home. And the unsettled ones, most of them not educated, are leaving.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 20 July 2012 22: 01
          0
          kush62rightly noticed.
  25. Svistoplyaskov
    Svistoplyaskov 20 July 2012 13: 36
    +2
    Migration should be predictable and controlled. So that the titular ethnic group can digest the alien.
  26. Stelth
    Stelth 20 July 2012 13: 39
    +12
    I know a very revealing example. My friend was born and raised in one of the villages of Dagestan. When he was 16, according to the decision of the elders of the aul, all the residents lost money on his education (they chose him not by pull, but by the results of his studies at school) in one of the most prestigious universities of the country. He was supported in every possible way during his studies, and at the end of the university, they bought him a house and a car and gave him money to organize a business (again, the whole village was dumped). After that, he takes all the children of the village to his business or helps in every way with his studies. He returns half of all profit to his native village. And so they do with all children who study well and are an example to their peers. Who knows at least a dozen examples when among the Russians all relatives or fellow villagers would be dumped on the development of a child or a common business. For some reason, everyone pulls on himself, but the rest does not matter. That's where ideology is ...
    1. wall
      wall 20 July 2012 14: 10
      +4
      Plus. It is just evident that when we Russians will remain as many as Dagestanis, our eyes will finally open, and we will begin to help each other.
    2. andrey903
      andrey903 20 July 2012 21: 06
      +4
      Red diploma in Dagestan, this is nothing. Their whole business is the development of budget money and banditry
  27. Vlaleks48
    Vlaleks48 20 July 2012 14: 09
    0
    strannik595 rights to 1000000%Article plus!
    The issue is also topical because it is being inflated and supported by forces very interested in the collapse of Russia.
    Only the walls do not shout about the financial interest of business grabbers and those in power.
    And article 282 was invented by very interested people - because it is like a litmus test, when a simple person spits on it and takes up the forks, it will be too late to drink Borjomi!
  28. Odious
    Odious 20 July 2012 14: 46
    +4
    Cool article, and comments are even cooler.
    It’s strange - I have never had a single ethnic conflict. A friend is an Azerbaijani, a friend is a Greek.
    The subordinate "Chinese" cannot be counted in 10 years.
    On the market I buy up exclusively from "persons of Caucasian nationality" - you can have fun with bargaining.
    Maybe you need to behave easier and more correct ?, or maybe not start disassembling under vodka? AND?
  29. dark_65
    dark_65 20 July 2012 15: 18
    +2
    until we feel at home. so we will live in a reserved seat ...
  30. black cat
    black cat 20 July 2012 17: 58
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, really start to reach someone. There is a problem, and every day it is more and more difficult not to notice it. I hope some measures will be taken.

    To normal citizens, this was not when it was not news. The problem was still in the USSR, black and white places were taken away from our collective farmers.
    In vain you hope that you will find sane in the Kremlin.
    On June 13, Russian President Vladimir Putin approved the Concept of State Migration Policy of the Russian Federation for the period until 2025, the Kremlin press service reports. Implementation of the state migration policy includes three stages until 2025.

    The first involves the establishment of centers for the promotion of immigration in the Russian Federation and medical examination of migrants, including abroad, the creation of infrastructure for the residence of labor migrants on the basis of public-private partnerships, the creation of infrastructure for the integration and adaptation of labor migrants, including information and legal support centers, study courses language, history and culture of Russia, conducting selective research, including issues of domestic and international migration. This stage is designed until 2015.

    We can expect increased tension (and essentially clashes) between the Russians and the Dagis and Uryuk.
  31. Max79
    Max79 20 July 2012 19: 58
    +5
    Well done Vova and Dima are doing ... Soon there will be nowhere to spit some tricks ... And this is done so that the balance of the population does not fall, for example, below 144 million people. Wow, how many Russians are dying, brain drain for " hillock ", accordingly, it must be replenished ... And then there are more than enough people who wish. For the" hillock "the luminaries of science, talented and gifted people, come, not qualified, mostly sick, illegal migrants. Previously, the pit did not care and I looked at I’m turning a blind eye to this problem now, but now I am not willingly becoming a kind of nationalist against my will. Every day it becomes more and more disgusting and disgusting to look at this. I apologize if I offended someone ... Gentlemen (or comrades, as it is more convenient) foreign illegal immigrants, legal and semi-legal persons of not quite Slavic appearance, of course, I am not against your presence here in Russia, BUT ONLY AS SHORT-TERM GUESTS !!! In principle, as well as to you ...
    1. Sablezub
      Sablezub 21 July 2012 01: 02
      0
      Russians, especially residents of big cities, who are violently migrant workers by nation ... and in most cases on the US, which was dubbed this word, migrant workers, native Russians look like dirt under their nails ... and people judging the whole nation by single examples are not who are the banal racists ... and my assertions about the attitude of Russians towards visiting workers is not fiction, but personal experience of dealing with such fighters for the cleanliness of the nation ... I myself live in Moldova, and I'm Russian according to the nation ... and I’m really ashamed of those Russians who, without realizing it, are spreading one of the tenets of Nazism ... ashamed, Russian gentlemen
  32. valton
    valton 20 July 2012 20: 06
    +1
    Article + 500!
  33. andrey903
    andrey903 20 July 2012 21: 01
    +2
    First of all, an unofficial ban on working in government and non-native nationalities. Unequal conditions for business and home buying. Help them, by any means, reunite with their historical homeland
  34. understudy
    understudy 20 July 2012 21: 36
    0
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Most conflicts occur with Kurds and Meskhs, who really began to displace the local population from the habitable places.

    In the past and not in Krasnodar.
  35. Ataturk
    Ataturk 21 July 2012 23: 48
    0
    ON TV YOU WILL NOT SHOW THIS.

    An ordinary Tajik guy saved 6 people in Krymsk.
    During the flood in Krymsk, a worker from Tajikistan, sleeping on a street at a construction site, saw abruptly abiding water. This ordinary guy woke the whole lane.

    “I personally spoke with the residents of this street, they confirmed everything. The guy himself was embarrassed to tell.
    3 a.m. An ordinary guy from Tajikistan saw water rushing sharply. He started screaming. He ran from house to house and threw stones at the windows and onto the roof. This ordinary guy woke up the whole alley. He rescued 6 people on an inflatable mattress. 7yu grandmother could not .. there were bars on the windows, and the door was already under water. He held her hand when she choked. He didn't run away. She drowned holding his hand. Why don't they talk about real heroes? A person from another country ... with a different faith. He is a hero to me. I want to be known about. "