China indignant at US attempts to disrupt Motor Sich deal with Ukraine


In China, they were outraged by the statements of the American diplomatic representative in Ukraine regarding the acquisition by Chinese companies of a large stake in the Ukrainian company Motor Sich. Recall that earlier two Chinese companies (Xinwei Technology Group and Tianjiao Airlines) received the right to acquire shares in a Ukrainian company engaged in the creation of aircraft engines. This caused delight in the Chinese press, where, as VO already reported, some experts announced an imminent leap in the Chinese engine-building industry based on the developments of Motor Sich.


However, now, as Chinese reporters have found out, the United States is actually exerting direct pressure on Kiev in order to prevent Chinese companies from gaining full control over Motor Sich.

In Chinese Sohu, it is noted that pressure from the United States comes through the antitrust agency of Ukraine.

In the material:

It got to the point that the Chargé d'Affaires ai of the United States to Ukraine, William Taylor, explicitly states that Motor Sich should not be under Chinese control.

Mr. Taylor really made such a statement, speaking to Ukrainian journalists.

They asked him about how to deal with the sale of 50 percent of the Ukrainian company’s shares to China. To which Taylor replied literally the following:

The company deal has not yet been closed. This is done by the antimonopoly agency of Ukraine, checking various factors.

Taylor further added that “a review of the deal is possible."

The Chinese media called such statements by an American diplomat "a gross interference in the economic contacts between Ukraine and China."
The said Sohu portal writes:

There is no doubt that the United States is playing this game knowingly in order to try to wreck the deal.

The material also contains a statement by the former adviser to the President of the United States on national security, John Bolton, who said that "the implementation of such a transaction would endanger its participants." In China, this was seen as a new threat of sanctions.
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  1. svp67 31 December 2019 07: 13 New
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    Oh, how ... the USA is also trying to "have time to jump into the last carriage" ...
    1. Siberia 75 31 December 2019 08: 30 New
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      Moreover, Mr. Taylor made this statement at a joint briefing with the General Prosecutor of Ukraine R. Ryaboshapko, which is quite unambiguous.
    2. knn54 31 December 2019 09: 26 New
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      It’s not only in Ukraine. The Yankees prohibit as much as possible "their allies" from cooperating with China, especially in the field of technology
    3. bar
      bar 31 December 2019 11: 25 New
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      The United States is also trying to "have time to jump into the last wagon" ...

      And as usual for free, without paying a ticket. If they are such opponents of the sale to China, no one stopped them from redeeming Motor Sich themselves. But why pay if you can just push. As with the SP-2
      1. Avior 31 December 2019 21: 10 New
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        They don’t mind paying, but they caught on late
        1. Igool 31 December 2019 23: 44 New
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          And why should they pay if they can get it for free, for the same symbolic $ 1?
  2. Dmitry Potapov 31 December 2019 07: 16 New
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    I misunderstand! If Ukraine is under external control, as we are told, then no one would give them to sell Motor Sich to the Chinese if the United States would be interested in buying.
    1. Kleber 31 December 2019 07: 18 New
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      The USA needs this Motor Sich in a state of bankrupt, and then the Chinese suddenly harnessed themselves.
      1. Arberes 31 December 2019 09: 04 New
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        Quote: Kleber
        The USA needs this Motor Sich bankrupt,

        And not only the USA.
        "Some experts have announced an imminent leap in the Chinese engine industry based on the developments of Motor Sich."
        We don’t need it either. A powerful competitor is growing near by. And as history shows: today we are partners with the PRC, and tomorrow we can become opponents. This plant is also useless for Ukraine (in connection with the events of the past 4 years), so yes - this is the most ideal option ... to cheat it with such a mother! hi
        1. Krasnoyarsk 31 December 2019 10: 48 New
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          Quote: Arberes
          This plant is also useless for Ukraine (in connection with the events of the past 4 years), so yes - this is the most

          What does it mean - to nothing? Why, but the Maydan people don’t know what to do with it, not marketing the plant’s products. No way to Russia, but the rest do not.
          1. Arberes 31 December 2019 10: 54 New
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            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            What does it mean - to nothing?

            Really don't understand? Sorry for the tactless question: Are you Ukrainian?
            I am now speaking from the position of a Russian. Ukraine is an unfriendly state (to put it mildly) to us, and why then do we need their high-tech industries?
            1. Krasnoyarsk 31 December 2019 11: 07 New
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              Quote: Arberes
              Really don't understand?

              You do not understand this. You reason from the perspective of today. But on one point you are right - it is not beneficial for us if these technologies "float away" to China.
              Quote: Arberes
              Are you Ukrainian?

              Tell you the whole biography? Or are you satisfied with the short answer - no?
              Quote: Arberes
              Ukraine is an unfriendly state (to put it mildly) to us, and why then do we need their high-tech industries?

              Today, yes, unfriendly, and tomorrow?
              1. Arberes 31 December 2019 11: 19 New
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                [quote = Krasnoyarsk] Tell you the whole biography?

                Well, if you are not lazy?

                [quote = Krasnoyarsk] Or are you satisfied with the short answer - no? [/ quote]

                I am satisfied. Just thought, if you are from that edge, then the conversation will be useless.

                [quote = Krasnoyarsk] Yes today, unfriendly, and tomorrow? [/ quote]

                This inconstancy of these “brothers” is annoying - if you think about the future. Now this is a completely different state. After they chose Zelensky for president, all my last illusions crumbled like a house of cards.
                Happy New Year to you, dear Krasnoyarsk
                hi
                1. Krasnoyarsk 31 December 2019 11: 34 New
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                  Quote: Arberes
                  Well, if you are not lazy?

                  Only in response to yours.
                  Quote: Arberes

                  I am satisfied. Just thought, if you are from that edge, then the conversation will be useless.

                  And from "that edge" there are many people with whom the conversation is not only useless, but also interesting.
                  Quote: Arberes
                  Here the inconstancy of these "brothers" is annoying

                  You see, dear, we can all be accused of inconstancy, too - were Soviet. became ... bourgeois. Also, you know, they wanted the best ... everything according to Chernomyrdin.
                  And you with the upcoming !!! May the New Year bring enlightenment to all of us in our brains. It, enlightenment, is very necessary for all of us.
                  1. Arberes 31 December 2019 11: 48 New
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    And from "that edge" there are many people with whom the conversation is not only useless, but also interesting.

                    There is of course, but I have a feeling that there are fewer and fewer of them. Ukraine is turning into a second Poland, and Poland is a very long time. And God forbid that I would be wrong.
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    It, enlightenment, is very necessary for all of us.
                    Reply

                    Well, for enlightenment, here I categorically support you with all the fibers of the soul! good
    2. paul3390 31 December 2019 07: 20 New
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      Because to amers - it only seems that they type control Tsagabonia. In fact - the mess and the wild field are, in principle, uncontrollable. Anything can happen there, for the loot - they will sell their mother, or the owner’s interests ..
      1. KCA
        KCA 31 December 2019 09: 31 New
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        A spiraling story? A wild field has already arisen, are we waiting for Khmelnitsky?
      2. Piramidon 31 December 2019 11: 03 New
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        Quote: paul3390
        Because to amers - it only seems that they type control Tsagabonia. In fact - the mess and the wild field are, in principle, uncontrollable.

        In international politics, there is such a thing as "controlled chaos." Current Ukraine just fits into this concept - chaos under the control of the United States.
    3. Aerodrome 31 December 2019 07: 20 New
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      China indignant at US attempts to disrupt Motor Sich deal with Ukraine
      I see this: some do not allow others to steal something that they themselves do not need, but it’s a pity to give others too.
    4. demo 31 December 2019 07: 50 New
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      In order to manage a large enterprise, it is necessary in the leadership of not one "temporary attorney", but at least a staff of permanent employees - managers.
      Which have a clear idea of ​​strategic plans, how to achieve them, and at least experience in management and teamwork.
      There are no managers to run a country like Ukraine.
      And the "contingent" of Aboriginal people is such that there are as many watchmen as necessary to prevent the original desire to "pull that lies bad."
      So the concept of “external control” is very relative.
      Situationally attracted candidates from the "local" (Yatsenyuk, for example) and some situation begins to unfold.
      Then the "hard worker" is sent for a well-deserved rest (if he deserves it), and a new "recruit" appears.
      The enterprise itself, Motor Sich, is a suitcase without a handle.
      It did not rest against the Americans.
      But there is one thing - experts with experience.
      There is still a certain design school.
      There are still material experts.
      Starting from scratch is very expensive and time consuming.
      And it’s not a fact that in the end there will be a “cherry on a cake”.
      The Chinese pecked.
      The Americans gave the Chinese the opportunity to firmly fix on the hook.
      And now the fuss begins.
      Honestly, at the beginning of this fuss, I thought about the naivety of the Chinese.
      When it is so easy to get everything at once - this should be alarming.
      But as my friends in China say, it's never too late to start learning.
    5. orionvitt 31 December 2019 08: 07 New
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      I don’t understand another, Motor Sich is an open joint stock company, not a state-owned enterprise. What does Kiev have to do with the ban on the sale of shares? However, in Ukraine everything is possible, since such a concept as law is just an empty word.
    6. Arberes 31 December 2019 10: 13 New
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      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      If Ukraine is under external control, as we are told, then no one would give them to sell Motor Sich to the Chinese if the United States would be interested in buying.

      So it’s not even evening yet?
    7. TermNachTer 31 December 2019 15: 07 New
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      Everything happened behind closed doors, even at the plant itself no one knew. But when in 2016, everything crawled out, since it was no longer possible to hide further - at a meeting of shareholders, the Chinese should have been included in the board of directors. And then the kipzh began.
    8. Cottodraton 1 January 2020 07: 11 New
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      And this is "real democracy and freedom" - when the plants of your country (golden eggs) are divided by the USA and China?))) What imbecile does such democracy need ?!)))))
  3. Victoria-V 31 December 2019 07: 35 New
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    And in China from tomorrow gasoline on the cards! No more than 150 liters per month! So they need it.
  4. Victoria-V 31 December 2019 07: 37 New
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    I forgot to write about the main thing. On cards for free. And officials only for the money.
  5. Thrifty 31 December 2019 07: 58 New
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    Did the Chinese finally notice what was striking others? The United States will not give the Chinese such an opportunity, unless the Chinese agree to an open confrontation with the Yankees!
    1. TermNachTer 31 December 2019 15: 10 New
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      For banderlogs, China, like Russia, is one of the main trading partners, so now the inhabitants of the Kuevsky Terrarium will not be easy. And the Reich Chancellery of Washington cannot be disobeyed, but they cannot swear with China either.
  6. Mountain shooter 31 December 2019 08: 08 New
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    The Yankees haven’t "come to their feet" yet in the world? Soon not a single country in the world will remain unhappy ... laughing
  7. rocket757 31 December 2019 08: 20 New
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    In China, they were outraged by the statements of the American diplomatic representative in Ukraine regarding the acquisition by Chinese companies of a large stake in the Ukrainian company Motor Sich.

    Cool, although more like ... cool!
    What do they actually wonder, resent, I don’t understand?
  8. thinker 31 December 2019 08: 52 New
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    William Taylor bluntly states that Motor Sich should not be under Chinese control.
    And what, Ukraine dare to disobey the owner? This cannot be!
    To date, the deal to sell a 50% stake in Motor Sich has actually hovered in the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine. The agency must agree on the transaction, having carried out all necessary checks. Since August, the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine has not made a decision and for the last time delayed it until 21 January. In anticipation of agreement, Motor Sich was transferred to austerity regimes - it reduced the working week, social expenses, and expenses for procurement and development. The company got rid of a number of social objects, transferring them to the balance of the city.

    http://www.vv.com.ua/tak-prodali-ili-net-chto-proishodit-na-motor-sichi
  9. sen
    sen 31 December 2019 08: 55 New
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    There was a TV show on this topic. So they say there that the purchase of Motor Sich by the Chinese is not economically profitable for us. A new strong competitor to our motors will appear.
    1. antivirus 31 December 2019 09: 16 New
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      then yourself hold the suitcase without a handle.
      the Chinese are pursuing their interests. You are yours
      RF - own motors, turbines and further along the chain
  10. vnord 31 December 2019 09: 00 New
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    Quote: Kleber
    USA this Motor Sich is needed in a state of bankrupt, and then the Chinese suddenly harnessed

    Actually, the Russian Federation is also needed better in a state of bankrupt than Chinese ... if you think about the future ..
  11. cniza 31 December 2019 09: 03 New
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    It got to the point that the Chargé d'Affaires ai of the United States to Ukraine, William Taylor, explicitly states that Motor Sich should not be under Chinese control.


    Why be surprised that China did not know how the United States works?
  12. Jurkovs 31 December 2019 10: 42 New
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    Here I support amers. Neither myself, nor the Chinese, nor the Ukrainians. The continuous benefit of Russia, as these technologies are in Russia.
  13. Ros 56 31 December 2019 10: 49 New
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    In a sense, it is in our interests to prevent the Chinese from accessing aircraft engine technology.
  14. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 11: 16 New
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    Naive Chinese comrades believe that they "bought" laughing Buy a pig in a poke: some experts have announced an imminent leap in the Chinese engine industry based on the developments of Motor Sich. "
    We don’t need it either. A powerful competitor is growing near by. laughing Seriously?
    1. Arberes 31 December 2019 12: 05 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Seriously?

      What doubts are there? I just put it a little wrong.
      - A powerful competitor has grown. laughing If you do not believe in Chinese acquisitions, then explain why the States are so nervous?
  15. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 11: 18 New
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    Quote: Ros 56
    In a sense, it is in our interests to prevent the Chinese from accessing aircraft engine technology.

    What technologies can be more detailed? laughing
    1. exo
      exo 31 December 2019 11: 26 New
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      There are no separate technologies to describe, but the Chinese could not create engines of the D-18 and Tv3-117 class. And for them, even these: by no means the most modern engines, will be a breakthrough.
      1. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 11: 30 New
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        Russia has already received everything it wanted, having bought several years of documentation and lured employees of the enterprise. laughingThe Russian United Engine Corporation (UEC, part of Rostec) previously promised to completely replace the most popular Ukrainian helicopter engine TV3-117 with its Russian analogue VK-2500 until the end of 2019. In March 2017, the head of Rostec Sergey Chemezov assured that Ukrainian engines are used in Russia only for the production of civilian helicopters - they put exclusively VK-2500 on military vehicles.

        1. Arberes 31 December 2019 12: 18 New
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          Quote: Gennady Fomkin
          Russia has already received everything it wanted, having bought several years of documentation and lured employees of the enterprise.

          And what does Russia have to do with it? You kind of wanted to talk about China? lol
  16. vvp2412 31 December 2019 11: 40 New
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    Are the Chinese surprised at this? I am surprised that the Chinese are surprised at this! :))
  17. Zaurbek 31 December 2019 12: 29 New
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    Moreover, the Americans are not soaring purchase .... just forbid.
  18. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 12: 53 New
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    Quote: Arberes
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Russia has already received everything it wanted, having bought several years of documentation and lured employees of the enterprise.

    And what does Russia have to do with it? You kind of wanted to talk about China? lol
    M yes .... I thought you were more literate belay
    1. Arberes 31 December 2019 16: 04 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      M yes .... I thought you were more literate

      Well, how are you more competent yet answer my question? Once again I ask: Why do the States fidget so much from Ukraine’s attempts to sell a stake in the above company? fool
  19. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 12: 55 New
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    Quote: Arberes
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Seriously?

    What doubts are there? I just put it a little wrong.
    - A powerful competitor has grown. laughing If you do not believe in Chinese acquisitions, then explain why the States are so nervous?

    The Chinese will do laughing Buy old developments. And create a new one, for this, brains are needed and a long one. It will require the involvement of highly qualified specialists and the use of expensive hardware-software, production and testing systems. indicators of efficiency, resources, reliability, the new base engine is among the best world models of this class. In total, by 2020 it is planned to produce at least two hundred different modifications for helicopters and airplanes.

    Prior to this, the engines for our civil and military vehicles were made only by the Ukrainian company Motor Sich. Here are just some of the headlines of the Ukrainian media on this topic:

    “Russia depends on Ukraine in the production of helicopters, engines for helicopters and other equipment from Motor Sich”

    “The role of Motor Sich in the defense industry (production) of the Russian Federation”

    “The future of Russian aviation without Motor Sich is sad”

    “The Russian aircraft engine is clearly in a grave crisis” laughing
    1. Arberes 31 December 2019 16: 18 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      “Russia depends on Ukraine in the production of helicopters, engines for helicopters and other equipment from Motor Sich”

      Russia depends a lot on what. A specific example: engines for our frigates, produced at Mash-Zor, but I’m talking about the possibilities of China with you.
      You have some degree of contempt for the technological capabilities of this country, but meanwhile China has almost the same technology as ours (hypersound), but they simply stole a lot, but still manage to develop the stolen one. And the most important thing in my opinion: the Chinese economy is developing rapidly, and this allows you to invest a lot of money in science and this leads to obvious results.
      Space, aircraft, shipbuilding, software. They will also learn to do engines - this is a matter of time and not very distant.
      Happy New Year to you! wink
      1. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 18: 24 New
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        good Happy New Year!
  20. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 13: 09 New
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    The Ukrainian TV3-117 engine was also successfully replaced, and the production of a fully Russian VK-2500 turboshaft engine for Mi and Ka type helicopters was delivered to production.

    VK-2500 is a version of the TV3-117VMA turboshaft engine. Aircraft engines of the TV3-117 family were developed in 1965-1972 at the Design Bureau named after Klimova. Serially produced since 1972 at the ZPOM Motorostroitel, now Motor Sich, in the city of Zaporozhye. Since its inception, more than 25 TV000-3 engines of various modifications have been produced. It is one of the most reliable aircraft engines in the world.

    The new version of the VK-2500V engine was developed by Klimov in 2011. Thanks to the improved characteristics of this modification, the helicopter's ceiling increases by 30%, rate of climb - by 50%, load-carrying capacity - by 2 tons. At the same time, speed increases and helicopter maneuverability improves. These qualities provide new opportunities for helicopters to operate in high altitude regions and areas with a hot climate. In addition, the VK-2500 engine significantly improves flight safety. It has an emergency power mode - 2700 hp, used in case of failure of one of the engines. The VK-2500 engine can be installed on Mi8 / Mi-17, Mi-24 (Mi-35), Ka-52, Mi-28N helicopters. laughing
  21. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 13: 10 New
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    To replace the Ukrainian D-136, a new PD-26V engine will be created on the Mi-12 heavy helicopter. The successful implementation of the project to create the PD-14 base engine for equipping the MS-21-300 passenger aircraft makes it possible to create on the basis of its gas generator a whole family of engines with a thrust of 9 to 18 tons. UEC based on the PD-14 gas generator is ready to develop the PD-12V turboshaft engine for the Mi-26 helicopter. It will become the most powerful turboshaft engine in the world. We are talking about the development of an engine on a new technological base, with new materials, with improved specific characteristics, including power. UEC is awaiting the announcement of a tender for the remotorization of Mi-26 using a Russian-made engine - PD-12V.

    Modernization of the Mi-26 by installing PD-12V on it will increase the transport productivity of the aircraft and reduce the cost of operation. It should be noted that the creation of a gas generator for the PD-12V engine has low technical risks, since the design is based on a large scientific and technical reserve formed during the implementation of the PD-14 project, which is now being actively tested; certain materials have been accumulated, all this will reduce the time spent on PD-12V.

    A modern automated digital stand for carrying out acceptance tests of helicopter engines that have undergone repairs was created at 218 Aviation Repair Plant JSC (218 ARZ) located in Gatchina. laughing
  22. Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2019 13: 12 New
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    In the summer of 2017, the Salyut gas turbine construction center successfully completed the resource tests of the AI-222‑25 dual-circuit turbojet engine, which the Russian Yak-130 combat training aircraft are equipped with. Now, the engines manufactured by Salut are set up with an overhaul life of 1500 hours, and an assigned life of 3000 hours.

    In 2015, UEC completed activities on the import substitution of parts and assemblies of the AI ​​‑ 222‑25 engine. At present, it is manufactured by Salyut entirely from domestic components produced at the head site of the enterprise in Moscow and at the Omsk branch of OMO named after P.I. Baranova ”(previously about half of the components for assembling AI-222‑25 at Salyut were supplied from Ukraine). Until the completion of the tests, the AI ​​‑ 222‑25 had an overhaul life of 600 hours and a designated life of 1200 hours. Work to increase the resource was carried out on the AI-222‑25 engine No. 001S - the first fully manufactured at Salute without the use of foreign components.

    Successful tests, which resulted in a significant increase in engine life, became a landmark in the implementation of the AI-222‑25 program. In 2016, Salyut fully complied with its obligations to supply new AI-222‑25 engines of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and repair power plants in operation. Simultaneously with the increase of the resource, “Salut” developed and tested the modular repair methods AI-222‑25, providing for the possibility of modular replacement of damaged components in operation. This allows for local restoration repair and replacement of engine components directly in the field. UEC is ready to organize modular repairs of AI-222‑25 engines at the operator’s facilities, as well as training its specialists in modular repair techniques, provided that the operating organizations are provided with the necessary infrastructure. laughing The mustache is gone chef laughing
  23. Vanya Tikhiy 31 December 2019 13: 35 New
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    These jackals from the hole of the VSA will do everything to spoil CHINA !!!! Immediately you can see the owner of the jackal from the hole of the VSA!
  24. PVV66 31 December 2019 14: 13 New
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    It is beneficial for Russia that the United States disrupt the purchase of China Motor Sich. Most likely, the Americans themselves will buy a factory and then it will successfully go bankrupt. Trump will do everything to prevent the Chinese from getting technology. China will be hooked by both Russia and the United States. An extremely strong and independent China is not needed by anyone. Dangerously...
  25. maidan.izrailovich 31 December 2019 16: 10 New
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    And you might think that the Chinese do not know who they are dealing with. May Beijing have enough to live with illusions?
  26. 16112014nk 31 December 2019 16: 18 New
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    "So do not get to anyone!" © A. N. Ostrovsky
    The best option.
  27. Sailor 31 December 2019 16: 33 New
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    Who would doubt that! It’s easier for them to sell because we already know everything and are able to do what we know in Ukraine, but China really needs this knowledge and this cannot be allowed, by the way, I support the United States in this.
  28. Irek 31 December 2019 17: 19 New
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    They have such a nature that everybody interferes with life and normal development, they are afraid.
  29. cat Rusich 31 December 2019 18: 01 New
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    China has "free" $ - they can spend as they see fit. The authorities in Kiev are not going to engage in industry and want to sell everything they can. They can also sell GTS ...
  30. georggy 1 January 2020 12: 11 New
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    Chineses you are a technologically advanced country. Why do you need a motor sich.
    Or I'm wrong. You stupid people are not able to even normally copy the remote control to the TV!
  31. Lord of the Sith 1 January 2020 20: 13 New
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    Something the Yankees have been languishing lately.

    Of course, they don’t need a competitor in this regard, therefore, as a nation of traders and criminals, they are taking the most dirty measures