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“Trying to Hide Russia's Problems”: Polish Prime Minister about Putin’s words about Poland’s policies of the 1930s

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For the first time, statements made by Vladimir Putin regarding Polish contacts of the 30s with Nazi Germany were commented on by the head of the Polish government. Mateusz Moravecki said that he explains the words of the President of Russia with “international pressure”.

The Polish prime minister said that he considered the words of Vladimir Putin regarding the events of the 30s “untrue”.

A statement by Moravecki is quoted by the Chancellery of the Government of Poland:

With his statement, Vladimir Putin is trying to conceal Russia's problems related to international pressure, sanctions against the Nord Stream-2 pipeline, and the results of negotiations in the Norman format in France.

According to Mr. Moravecki, he does not consider the treaty concluded in 1939 a non-aggression pact between the USSR and Germany.

Polish Prime:

It was actually about a military and political alliance, which suggested the division of Europe into spheres of influence.

At the same time, Moravecki for some reason again did not remember the Pilsudski-Hitler Pact and the Munich Agreement, after which Poland carried out an invasion of Czechoslovakia simultaneously with German troops. But it is precisely those events, in fairness, that should be considered as the real beginning of the Second World War. But in Warsaw this part stories They prefer not to remember the 1930s, and even passed a law that makes Hitler liable for such references to actual aiding.

Moravec:

The people of Russia are the main victims of Stalin, one of the most ruthless criminals in world history. And the people of Russia deserve the truth. I believe: Russians are a nation of free people that rejects Stalinism as such, even if Putin and his government are trying to justify Stalinism.
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  1. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 30 December 2019 07: 49
    +37
    Any country has problems. And Russia is no exception. But this does not cancel the historical truth.
    And the truth is that Poland was actively looking for an alliance with fascist Germany. And in relation to the Jews, the points of view of the German fascists and Poles coincided.
    1. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 30 December 2019 08: 01
      +22
      As the Poles unconvincingly justify themselves, We are accustomed to blaming everyone ourselves, but to build a victim from ourselves. And then they flew in, and even documented, that illness was confused.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 30 December 2019 08: 23
        +13
        Quote: Siberia 75
        As the Poles are unconvincingly justified

        So they hope that Big Brother will cover it up from behind a puddle. They have always been with reduced social responsibility, but now this "non-responsibility" has grown ...
        1. Ezekiel 25-17
          Ezekiel 25-17 30 December 2019 09: 58
          +7
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Quote: Siberia 75
          As the Poles are unconvincingly justified

          So they hope that Big Brother will cover it up from behind a puddle. They have always been with reduced social responsibility, but now this "non-responsibility" has grown ...

          Big brother is very dependent on the Jewish lobby, and they are in the family, so it’s a panam: yourself, yourself ...
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 30 December 2019 09: 59
            +7
            Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
            so panov: yourself, yourself ...

            Your words and yes to some ears. yes
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 30 December 2019 14: 06
              +3
              The russophobic elite of modern bourgeois Poland needs to be politically drafted in the interests of the historical truth and national security of the Russian Federation. Namely.

              Therefore, Putin needs not to stop there, but also to close the case of falsification of the Soviet "Katyn" documents committed by Gorbachev / Yakovlev in favor of the Goebbels version of the execution of allegedly 20 thousand Poles (police officers, judges, security guards) by allegedly NKVD units, and not by the Germans.
              With this, it is necessary to knock out the Polish Russophobes in their world anti-Russian policy, the main now supporting stone from under their feet against Russia - the Goebel myth of the allegedly execution of 20 thousand Poles by Russians in 1940. In fact, evidence has been gathered that the massacres of the Poles in 1940 by the USSR authorities were NOT.

              In particular, the government of the Russian Federation and Putin himself need to end with the myth in the same Copper, which has become history. Namely.

              In the Tver region, 30 kilometers from Tver there is a memorial complex "Copper". The visitors of Medny are assured that the remains of more than 6 thousand Polish prisoners of war, shot by the USSR authorities in the spring of 1940 in Kalinin, rest in this place. There is a similar memorial in the Smolensk region (Katyn).

              In the period from 1941 to 1943, several hospitals were located in the vicinity of the village of Mednoye. The Soviet soldiers of the 29th Army, who died in wounded medical battalions, were also buried there. And in the place where the Polish memorial is now located, there was a collection point for the bodies of the Red Army soldiers who died in battles, whose memory has not yet been immortalized. In 2006, representatives of the “Union of Soviet Officers” erected a marble slab on the territory of the Mednovsky Memorial in memory of the Soviet soldiers of the 29th Army who fell in battle. But soon the stove mysteriously disappeared.

              Myths of Copper Posted: Jul 25 2015 year
              1. krot
                krot 30 December 2019 14: 54
                0
                The people of Russia - this is who is the main victim of Stalin

                Poland’s prime minister himself is an abortion victim!
                1. volodimer
                  volodimer 30 December 2019 19: 05
                  0
                  Pavel, At HE people are cultural, and such a statement is somewhat unethical.
                  It is entirely possible that the Prime Minister of Poland really suffered that interference in the process of his intrauterine maturation, and this could, not in the most favorable way, affect his mental abilities ...
                  But you should not judge by one, not very well thought-out (the reasons for this are given above) statement, albeit temporarily high-ranking (this is definitely temporary), the representative of the Polish government about the problems of our mutual relations.
                  There are many letters, but I hope that everything is politically correct.
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 30 December 2019 15: 05
                +4
                On November 26, 2010, the State Duma of the Russian Federation also adopted the Statement “On the Katyn tragedy and its victims”.
                This shameful document, made explicitly by order from above, also blames the Soviet side on the Soviet side for blaming Polish officers.. In fact, it confirms the version of events fabricated at one time by the Nazi propaganda minister Goebbels. Moreover, the document contains offensive, baseless attacks on the Soviet government and the leadership of the USSR. The adoption of this statement may also lead to multibillion claims of the Polish side against Russia.

                Communist deputies strongly opposed the adoption of this document.
                The patriotic position of the Russians - on the falsification of Soviet documents on the "Katyn case" by Gorbachev / Yakovlev in support of Goebbels' propaganda - was substantiated even then in his speech to the State Duma by a member of the Communist Party faction V.I. Ilyukhin.

                Indeed, 10 years later, the historical practice of international relations has clearly shown that historically, no false-concessional liberalism of the Russian "top" with their hopes in "rose-colored glasses" to achieve any kind of Western disposition towards Russia has historically passed, does not pass - and will not pass!
                And with such an anti-Russian, also Russophobic ruling elite in the "top" of the Russian Federation, it's time to end!

                In addition, the Polish memorial in Mednoye, which is located in the Russian Federation and is kept at the expense of Russians, must be opened completely, exhumed, and a thorough socio-medical examination carried out. Then, to separate the Poles from those who died in the battles and who died from wounds in the local hospitals of the Soviet military personnel - soldiers and officers. To create a real memorial for the Red Army soldiers who fell in battle.
                And with the Poles buried there, one must act according to historical truth and finish the matter at the discretion of Poland and by agreement with the authorities of the Russian Federation.
                Historical popular justice must triumph over the political idiocy of the ruling elite.

                Goebbels would be happy! Posted Nov 26 2010 year
              3. volodimer
                volodimer 30 December 2019 18: 51
                0
                Unfortunately, this will not happen ... They will go to "repent" to Katyn, they will build Yeltsin centers, they will sow the lies of Solzhenitsyn, they will defame the entire history of the Russian state ... The goal of any pro-Western government that has been set is for Russia to repent, and not important in what. For them, Russia must always kneel before the West. And pay before them ...
                But figwam (the traditional home of the indigenous people of the American continent) !!!!
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 30 December 2019 15: 40
            0
            Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Quote: Siberia 75
            As the Poles are unconvincingly justified

            So they hope that Big Brother will cover it up from behind a puddle. They have always been with reduced social responsibility, but now this "non-responsibility" has grown ...

            Big brother is very dependent on the Jewish lobby, and they are in the family, so it’s a panam: yourself, yourself ...
            And what did the Poles do with the Jews? In his own words, Moravetsky is trying to turn his attention to Stalin from Polish crimes. Yes, apparently it’s time to keep the answer.
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 30 December 2019 09: 51
        +7
        As the Poles unconvincingly justify themselves, We are accustomed to blaming everyone ourselves, but to build a victim from ourselves.

        Changed the topic, left the answer.
      3. PalBor
        PalBor 30 December 2019 11: 05
        +7
        And they do not make excuses. They stand their ground. They have not changed their opinion or government policy. As they were Judeo-and Russophobes, they remained.
        If they said that: yes, once we were so bad, intolerant, but now we have improved, for universal human values ​​all are, they would have been supported by the entire "civilized" world. And now most of the Western media and official representatives are keeping quiet, they do not want to get dirty in the anti-Semitic mud.
      4. Olgovich
        Olgovich 30 December 2019 13: 07
        0
        Quote: Siberia 75
        . And then they flew in, and even documented, that illness was confused.

        Yeah, "s.voloch and pig" addressed to the Polish AMBASSADOR-blew them up quite well. yes

        Sick TRUTH for ruslfobov. An-not throw it out!
      5. yustas
        yustas 30 December 2019 13: 28
        +1
        Greetings, fellow countryman) I absolutely support you, they did not expect them, and their answer is like an excuse for the 5th classman that he did not smoke, this is an uncle on the street)
    2. svp67
      svp67 30 December 2019 08: 50
      +15
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      And the truth is

      That recognition of the USSR as the culprit of the start of World War II is the first step, it is followed by the refusal to recognize it as the country as the Winner, revision of all agreements, reformatting of the UN, where Russia, as the successor to the USSR, has no place in the Security Council, the requirement for reparations and further, further, Further
      The Polish prime minister said that he considered the words of Vladimir Putin regarding the events of the 30s “untrue”.
      To the trouble of the Polish prime minister, the archives of that time survived, and according to our historians, those documents that Putin showed are just babble in comparison with what is in the relations between Poland and Germany
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 30 December 2019 08: 59
        +6
        Quote: svp67
        revision of all agreements, reformatting of the UN, where Russia, as the successor of the USSR, has no place in the Security Council

        This is the most basic thing the United States and the West are striving for.
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 30 December 2019 09: 54
          +5
          But the Polish population met the Soviet troops as liberators! And Poland liberated the army under the leadership of the commander in chief - Joseph Stalin. And many Poles today are alive only because the Soviet troops had to, because of the request of the Poles themselves, without preparation to launch an offensive in order to come to the aid of the rebels. negative
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 30 December 2019 10: 25
            +3
            Quote: bessmertniy
            But the Polish population met the Soviet troops as liberators! And Poland liberated the army under the leadership of the commander in chief - Joseph Stalin.

            The people, of course, remember the one that cannot be brainwashed, but the ruling elite of Poland is not elected by the people, but appointed by the regional committee of the international elite.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 December 2019 15: 49
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: svp67
          revision of all agreements, reformatting of the UN, where Russia, as the successor of the USSR, has no place in the Security Council

          This is the most basic thing the United States and the West are striving for.

          And then, how should domestic liberals be understood who spit in the past of the USSR?
          Typical foreign agents. But ---- they don’t give up, they are trying to grow new generations who do not know their history. This is a long-term program against Russia, where the absence of ideology is proclaimed. But in fact, anti-Russian ideology.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 30 December 2019 16: 11
            +1
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Typical foreign agents. But ---- they don’t give up, they are trying to grow new generations who do not know their history. This is a long-term program against Russia,

            As soon as our Motherland was formed, starting in 1917, it constantly experiences the evil hands that IV Stalin shortened, but didn’t cut to the end, and they again grew like a hydra.
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 30 December 2019 10: 56
        0
        Quote: svp67
        That recognition of the USSR as the culprit of the start of World War II is the first step

        ===
        it was necessary to immediately respond to this. seen without the go-ahead of Putin there was no one to show initiative
  2. apro
    apro 30 December 2019 07: 54
    -11
    This whole booth with Poland leads to unhappy conclusions. Putin, together with the Poles, opened a memorial in Katyn, blamed the dead Polish officers on the USSR, condemned the Moscow Treaty of 1939 and called the Soviet government an accomplice of Hitler in the destruction of Poland ... I don’t understand Why are these attacks? Or wants to return everything back. But the word is not a sparrow. Moreover, the statement of the official.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 30 December 2019 08: 12
      +11
      Matvienko opened the complex and not Putin, do not stink!
      1. apro
        apro 30 December 2019 08: 31
        -16
        And Putin, along with the Polish president, as an extras at a funeral?
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 30 December 2019 09: 02
          +11
          Why do you persistently write the name of Putin with a small letter, while the name of Hitler was written with a capital? Do you think that even Hitler is better than Putin?
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            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 30 December 2019 09: 57
              +9
              Well, make a brief (brief) comparative analysis of the actions of Putin and Hitler. For clarity. So that your statement doesn’t look like absolutely empty chatter.
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                2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 30 December 2019 11: 33
                  +3
                  Clear. It is Putin's fault that you, such an intelligent and talented middle-level manager, are forced to vegetate in obscurity and lack of money, and you cannot afford the desired behu. And if anyone else were, then he immediately confirmed and glorified you.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 30 December 2019 19: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Clear. It is Putin's fault that you, such an intelligent and talented middle-level manager, are forced to vegetate in obscurity and lack of money, and you cannot afford the desired behu.

                    This is an example of a Soviet characteristic - clearly, concisely and to the point, and everything is correct. You won’t drink skill, I would say about the author ...
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich 2 January 2020 01: 04
                      0
                      You flatter me. In any case, I am too young to write the characteristics of the Soviet employees.
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 2 January 2020 13: 00
                        +2
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        You flatter me.

                        I just smiled - the essence of the text was more important to me.
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              2. IGOR GORDEEV
                IGOR GORDEEV 30 December 2019 10: 15
                +5
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                So that your statement doesn’t look like absolutely empty chatter.

                Can not. Accustomed to base all nonsense with impunity to fighters against GDP.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 December 2019 10: 27
              +5
              Quote: Egorchik
              Isn't it obvious?

              So you have not seen the worst, and did not live where worse.
    2. Volodin
      Volodin 30 December 2019 08: 14
      +7
      Quote: apro
      This whole booth with Poland leads to unhappy conclusions. Putin, together with the Poles, opened a memorial in Katyn, blamed the dead Polish officers on the USSR, condemned the Moscow Treaty of 1939 and called the Soviet government an accomplice of Hitler in the destruction of Poland ... I don’t understand Why are these attacks? Or wants to return everything back. But the word is not a sparrow. Moreover, the statement of the official.

      It just so happened that this in no way cancels the Polish kisses passionately with Hitler, including the same invasion of Czechoslovakia. The Polish authorities are trying to deny these connections with sheep's obstinacy. Moreover, the "farce" - if it is true, then from all "participants in the process."
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 30 December 2019 09: 05
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        The Polish authorities are trying to deny these ties with sheep’s obstinacy.

        If the Poles admit this, then the whole chess game played out by passion will be lost without a game. And lost for all time. And who will allow them to do this? There is only one thing left, "to go unconscious."
    3. maidan.izrailovich
      maidan.izrailovich 30 December 2019 08: 59
      0
      This whole booth ....

      The booth is primarily in your head. crying
      No words or actions of the participants of the modern political party Do not cancel the historical truth. . So, do not put a shadow on the wattle fence.
      1. apro
        apro 30 December 2019 09: 27
        -3
        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        No words or actions of the participants of the modern political party canceled the historical truth.

        This is understandable, but Putin’s actions to denigrate the USSR lead to today's weakening of the country. Vulnerability of positions in bilateral negotiations creates difficulties out of the blue. And if he blames the Poles, the Poles, coming from his words, have every moral right to do so. Putin criminal state ... or something else?
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 30 December 2019 11: 09
          +2
          Quote: apro
          This is understandable, but Putin’s actions to denigrate the USSR lead to today's weakening of the country. Vulnerability of positions in bilateral negotiations creates difficulties out of the blue. And if he blames the Poles, the Poles, coming from his words, have every moral right to do so. Putin criminal state ... or something else?

          ===
          Russophobia is a necessity for the ruling Polish elite, and not a right, because it is one of the pillars of maintaining their power
          1. apro
            apro 30 December 2019 12: 13
            -3
            Quote: Victorio
            Russophobia is a necessity for the ruling Polish elite, and not a right, because it is one of the pillars of maintaining their power

            For the Poles, yes this is their need. But Russophobia of the Kremlin authorities for what ???
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 31 December 2019 23: 54
              0
              Quote: apro
              but Russophobia of the Kremlin authorities for what ???

              ===
              I don’t understand what are you talking about?
              happy New Year!
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 30 December 2019 12: 47
      +2
      Quote: apro
      blamed the dead Polish officers on the USSR. He condemned the Moscow Treaty of 1939 and called the Soviet government an accomplice of Hitler in the destruction of Poland ... I do not understand why these attacks

      So if, according to your Putin, there is no forgiveness for rash words, then what to do with those whose relatives buried living people in the ground, and now, in the impudent, they deny everything? Are you not Gozman?
  3. K-50
    K-50 30 December 2019 07: 56
    +6
    Vladimir Putin is trying with his statement to hide the problems of Russia that are associated with international pressure

    Putin indicated what he indicated, namely, the pro-Nazi policy of Poland in the 30s of the last century. And only after Poland itself blamed Russia for this. Prior to this, this issue was silent.
    Maybe in vain. what
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 December 2019 09: 10
      +3
      Quote: K-50
      Prior to this, this issue was silent.
      Maybe in vain.

      No, just in time. Arrogance knocked down the GDP well from the presumptuous boors and lords. And the West is still silent, not recovering from such a statement. Although the Germans, Czechs, Slovaks and Israelis are silent.
  4. Basil50
    Basil50 30 December 2019 07: 59
    +9
    Yeah, really.
    How many Poles met in their natural habitat, they were so much surprised by the impenetrable aplomb and confidence in their superiority over everyone in the world, including American Germans, while they were actively looking for someone to start serving.
    I had to talk.
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 30 December 2019 09: 25
      -16
      Such confidence in superiority exists in any nation, including yours.
  5. knn54
    knn54 30 December 2019 08: 00
    +10
    Poles & Co. are trying to get away from the "Munich deal" and switch the arrows to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 December 2019 09: 27
      +3
      Quote: knn54
      Poles & Co. are trying to get away from the "Munich deal" and switch the arrows to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

      But there is no place to put the footage where in 1938, where, returning to London, Chamberlain showed the public the document and said: "I brought you the world for a whole generation." After Munich, Churchill said, "England was offered a choice between war and dishonor. She chose dishonor and will receive war." Six months later, Hitler captured Czechoslovakia, where Poland also managed to lick German bowlers.
  6. Van 16
    Van 16 30 December 2019 08: 01
    +7
    Again, Stalin is to blame for everything. They did not try to study history? Really - hyenas.
    1. Streamil
      Streamil 30 December 2019 08: 33
      +3
      Stalin is to blame not only for the Poles, but also for Putin. Putin's response at a 2019 press conference to the question of recognition by the European Parliament, which adopted a resolution on equating Nazism to the Soviet regime on the basis of totalitarianism: "Our people were the first victims of this totalitarianism. We condemned it and the cult of personality condemned, and so on."
      Victim, damn it.
      1. Streamil
        Streamil 30 December 2019 08: 57
        +10
        Stalin treated the peoples of the USSR in a rather "totalitarian" manner, starting to engage in the total implementation of the achievements of medicine and education among the massively illiterate population and who did not have access to the services of doctors due to the extremely low number of doctors and teachers themselves, as well as medical and educational institutions:

        Moreover, he built them at the pace that Putin is now closing them, thereby depriving the people of physical access to medical care and education:

        The direct consequence of such a "totalitarian" treatment of Stalin with his people was that the people in the shortest historical time received what they could not receive from the tsars before the revolution for centuries. The smallest mortality rate:

        And as a consequence of this, life expectancy has doubled from over 2 to over 30 years. Can you imagine how much "suffered" the people under Stalin, becoming 60 times less likely to die and twice as long to live?
        Speaking about the people in general, one cannot ignore the Russian people, in fact, which became the main "victim". For example, let us estimate the degree of suffering on the increase in the life expectancy of Russians relative to other peoples of the USSR:

        It was the Russians in the USSR who received the largest increase in their life expectancy. Other peoples also received it, it’s just that not everything was so bad with the life expectancy of the kings, unlike the Russians, who were in the role of white Negroes, having the highest mortality in the world and in Europe.
        This could not affect the fact that the Russians grew at the highest rate in numbers under Stalin. And even despite the enormous losses in the Great Patriotic War, the Russians over their 70 years of Soviet power doubled their numbers:

        But the loss of our people after 1991. We simply became less by 17 million people. These are the numbers for 2015. Now she has grown even stronger. That is, 17 million people under Yeltsin and Putin, like a cow tongue licked. There were 147 million Russians within the borders of the USSR in 1991, and 2015 million people became in the borders of the CIS in 130.
        So the Russians are the "first victim" not of Stalinism, but of capitalism. Capitalism with the face of Yeltsin and Putin.
        1. Streamil
          Streamil 30 December 2019 09: 21
          0
          Not only is the Russian people a victim of Stalin's totalitarianism for Putin, but also Lenin is “not a statesman” and “laid mine” for the collapse of the USSR. Platoshkin gave a good answer to Putin:
          1. Streamil
            Streamil 30 December 2019 10: 15
            -1
            Quote: FreamiL
            Not only is the Russian people a victim of Stalin's totalitarianism for Putin, but also Lenin is “not a statesman” and “laid mine” for the collapse of the USSR. Platoshkin gave a good answer to Putin:
            Sorry, I inserted the wrong link, here is the correct link
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 30 December 2019 10: 44
            +3
            And what is wrong? It was the Leninist administrative-territorial division of the country into national republics that was the prerequisite for the collapse of the Power. That's right - Lenin laid a mine under the country.
          3. To be or not to be
            To be or not to be 30 December 2019 14: 19
            -1
            FreamiL (Alexey) Today, 09:21

            "" "" Not only is the Russian people a victim of Stalin's totalitarianism for Putin, but also Lenin is "not a statesman" and "laid mine" for the collapse of the USSR. Platoshkin gave a good answer to Putin: .. "

            Hu from Platoshkin ?? Who is he ? For what purpose were put into orbit?

            Suddenly, out of nowhere and abruptly took off. Yes, and to speak allow a lot and nothing. .continues? And beautiful!!
            How can the layman understand the sofa?

            https://ss69100.livejournal.com/4304768.html
            "" But many emotionally controlled patriots of the country already want to see Platoshkin as president of the Russian Federation. Such people clinging to external attributes want to say: be careful, be careful ... "(S. Yu. Salnikov)

            Is it so??

            Earlier S.Yu. Salnikov wrote: "And if you go to vote for Grudinin, then you should know: excuses like" I did not know "will not help to bring Russia together. S.Yu. Salnikov"
            https://ss69100.livejournal.com/3677675.html
            1. Streamil
              Streamil 30 December 2019 15: 22
              +1
              If he had been "put into orbit", he would not have been given a ride in the by-elections to the State Duma in the Khabarovsk Territory, in September of this year, where even the military unit that voted "the right way" was urgently relocated to his constituency ... to the territory of the training ground and there they organized a polling station, which was not allowed not only for his observers, but also for himself, saying that this is a "closed area" Watch the video how he tries to get to the polling station in the district where he is running))
              [media = https: //youtu.be/_ZioAX_otxY]
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 December 2019 08: 55
      0
      Quote: Van 16
      Again, Stalin is to blame for everything. They did not try to study history? Really - hyenas.

      After WWI, through the efforts of France and England, a "victim of premature pregnancy" appeared on the world map, which was pushed from all the former empires of a huge number of territories, but Hitler took his own and still grabbed Poznan, Pomeranian, Silesian, Lodz, part of the Kielecki and Warsaw provinces. And Stalin took what belonged to Russia, but after the war he also cleaned up Galicia, giving Poland Danzig with a corridor and West Prussia. But still it was 70 less kilometers than after the "gift" of the Entente. And now the most vicious enemy for the Poles is J.V. Stalin, although now another enemy has appeared.
  7. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 30 December 2019 08: 01
    +4
    In essence, the Polish politicians cannot say anything, so they are carrying a "blizzard". In a dispute, they argue with documents, and not with a cry.
    They act like Panikovsky before a fight with Balaganov.
  8. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 30 December 2019 08: 02
    +4
    Head of Government of Poland. Mateusz Moravecki:
    "Vladimir Putin is trying to hide Russia's problems with his statement"

    "To him about Thomas, and he to me about Erema"

    Question VV Putin raised about the perpetrators of the Second World War - About Poland's fault in unleashing it., And the Prime Minister of Poland about modernity and, as always, "Putin and Russia are to blame"
    in his comments, the whole point of Western politicians ..
    It is time for Russia to withdraw a rash apology for Katyn. Where there is no Soviet crime ....
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  9. rocket757
    rocket757 30 December 2019 08: 08
    +5
    “Trying to Hide Russia's Problems”: Polish Prime Minister about Putin’s words about Poland’s policies of the 1930s

    And what are our problems towards the Commonwealth? The enemy is the enemy, there are simply no other interpretations.
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 December 2019 08: 51
      +2
      Here it does not reach them, without a teacher in the form of a kick in a soft place.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 December 2019 09: 21
        0
        Quote: cniza
        Here it does not reach them, without a teacher in the form of a kick in a soft place.

        And then they were kicked more than once .... there is a fifth point, ARMOR!
        Although, others prefer to use what is much higher and not for clickers, in general.
        1. cniza
          cniza 30 December 2019 09: 24
          +2
          They don’t want to use the higher, therefore, they get it all the time.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 30 December 2019 09: 38
            +1
            The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Svidomo, dermocracy and even some similar yet! Soon, a bunch of new diagnoses in psychiatry will be prescribed ... yes, and even a bite!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 30 December 2019 15: 56
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Svidomo, dermocracy and even some similar yet! Soon, a bunch of new diagnoses in psychiatry will be prescribed ... yes, and even a bite!

              And they forgot about tolerance, liberalism, other similar words negative
  10. Aliken
    Aliken 30 December 2019 08: 09
    +2
    The false pathetics of the Polish prime minister is designed only for fold Europeans.
  11. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 30 December 2019 08: 10
    0
    This is your problem, the Nazis, anti-Semitic pigs.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 December 2019 08: 14
    +4
    What, Poles are not anti-Semites, for the most part? And they did not arrange Jewish pogroms even AFTER the war? They killed returning Jews because they had already moved into their homes? And it’s not they who gladly tore the Czech Republic together with Hitler? And where did the prisoners of the Cathedral who moved to Poland go? Only those that reached Belarus survived ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 December 2019 08: 50
      +3
      The Poles will agree, they are stepping on an old rake and this is not the second time.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 December 2019 16: 08
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What, Poles are not anti-Semites, for the most part? And they did not arrange Jewish pogroms even AFTER the war? They killed returning Jews because they had already moved into their homes? And it’s not they who gladly tore the Czech Republic together with Hitler? And where did the prisoners of the Cathedral who moved to Poland go? Only those that reached Belarus survived ...

      There are documents about pogroms and killings during the war. And in 1946 there was a pogrom in the city of Kielce with many victims. In the 60s there was an anti-Semitic campaign, in the 70s skinheads also continue to continue anti-Semitic slogans
      And the decision of the head of the local administration of Auschwitz to open a disco in the building of the former tannery, where the hair of the murdered Jews was sorted. The desecration of the Jewish Cemetery in Auschwitz also happened.
  13. st2st
    st2st 30 December 2019 08: 27
    0
    And who in the West really needs about the reasons that led the world to World War 2? Let Putin and Lavrov, at least hundreds of documentary evidence of the real instigators of the world massacre will produce. All in vain. The culprits are already appointed, it’s us, -SSSR. It’s not regrettable, but there are no people who really know history in the West. There is a people who hawala that they are being pulled by their media
  14. BAI
    BAI 30 December 2019 08: 28
    +4
    Not him tryndet about Russia.
  15. Loess
    Loess 30 December 2019 08: 30
    0
    even if Putin and his government are attempting to justify Stalinism.
    Strange ... But in VO there is a widespread opinion about de-Stalinization ... Probably the Pole does not read VO.
  16. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 30 December 2019 08: 35
    +2
    The people of Russia are the main victims of Stalin, one of the most ruthless criminals in world history. And the people of Russia deserve the truth. I believe: Russians are a nation of free people that rejects Stalinism as such,
    And what is the right of this cigarette butt to call our rulers, we do not call all of their nonhumans who captured Smolensk and Moscow, who, together with Napoleon, robbed Moscow and killed people. And maybe they forgot the hater Pilsudski, or Marshal Rydz Smigly who left his army, betrayed the people and fled to Romania. It’s not for you to limitrophos who lost a country in 1772 to judge Russia, although you still lick other people's pots.
  17. demo
    demo 30 December 2019 08: 35
    +2
    Unprecedented pressure on the Russian Federation is an occasion to sort out the reasons for such pressure.
    A very important reason.
    The presence in the history of certain countries of actions that cannot paint them does not give them any reason or right to blame others for such acts.
    Poland and I were not in a state of military alliance, nor were we obligated to assist them in repelling the aggression of third countries.
    But Britain and France were obliged.
    But they didn’t.
    They declared a "strange war" and waited for Hitler to come to visit.
    So they would have presented the Poles with a claim.
    But in the EU, the principle prevailed - "whoever remembers the old, has an eye out."
    However, the Russian Federation has nothing to do with this.
    For the reason that they want to make us responsible "for everything."

    One for misconduct - censure.
    To another, for a similar act - a curse for centuries.
    It should not be so.
  18. sergo1914
    sergo1914 30 December 2019 08: 41
    0
    I do not reject Stalinism. Am I not Russian now? Who! Do not languish.
  19. Azazelo
    Azazelo 30 December 2019 08: 41
    0
    Well, everyone in Russia cares about Poland, yeah ...
  20. cniza
    cniza 30 December 2019 08: 48
    0
    It would be better for you to keep quiet, otherwise you’ll agree ...
  21. Al Asad
    Al Asad 30 December 2019 08: 51
    -10
    Putin is our leader
    Putin is our god
    He is not guilty of anything
    Putin is our leader
    :)
  22. bars1
    bars1 30 December 2019 09: 07
    +3
    They scold us not for the fact of the conclusion of the “Non-Aggression Pact” (who will surprise you ?!), but for the secret protocols to it, according to which the question of the independence of Poland and its borders was resolved by the “friendly mutual agreement of the parties.” poking in the face and refuting it is impossible. We will be reproached for cooperation with Hitler's Germany. Russia has to respond in the style of, look at yourself! ”At the same time, the conclusion of the Pact and the protocols made it possible to postpone the start of the war and push the borders to the West, which is good. and looks, you see, not ideal, to put it mildly, from the point of view of morality. But where is morality and politics, and even more so at stake for the security of your state? Your shirt is closer to your body. Everyone was covered in mud. Let Superman save the world. Especially Poland. was extremely hostile to the USSR
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 09: 23
    +1
    laughing We will not invite Russians to celebrations on the anniversary of this event -------- And rightly so. Let those who killed the Jews celebrate this date with those who handed over these Jews to them. Why do they need some left-wing Russians in such a close and united company? laughing Tryndet - it does not roll bags. But Putin goes to Yad Vashem.
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 09: 25
    +1
    It’s time for the Poles to admit that, with some exceptions, they were Nazi accomplices, notorious punishers in Auschwitz, and to pay the Jewish people compensation in the amount of $ 300 billion. laughing
    1. GenNick
      GenNick 30 December 2019 20: 49
      0
      Again, all the Jews ...
  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 09: 26
    +2
    Lipsky was a native of Wroclaw, he knew Germany well, the elite of the Third Reich. This, however, does not mean that he approved of Hitler's policies or collaborated with him ——————————————————————————— He did not approve and did not cooperate, but simply I wanted to erect a monument to Hitler for the extermination of Jews ... Another interesting point, they offer to respond to historical documents from Putin, for example, articles in the Western press telling about our point of view, “this is just brilliant ... laughing ?
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 09: 27
    +1
    Putin hit himself ... wanted to write - sick, no sick - shameful place in Polish history of the Second World War. Neither the Poles nor the Poles feel remorse. And, judging by the article, they are only upset that Putin voiced the topic, but by no means the fact of documented confirmation of sympathy for the demoniac’s anti-Semitic plans. The spit is made noble, juicy, right in the polished monsieur hari. Well, nothing, Poles, do not worry! Your current owners will not leave you. Wash, wipe, darn - you will be fresh bosom of the virgin. And, you know what, the papacy, and whether Pan Lipsky was not a Stalinist agent - this all explains, doesn’t it laughing wassat wassat Will they invite former Auschwitz workers? From them it will become: dear in spirit, see Lipsky laughing laughing
  27. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 30 December 2019 09: 36
    +4
    Who is talking about that, and the Pszek Kurva is all about freedom ...
    Sorry for him the Russians, the Polish. Stalin did not please. Our problems are listed.
    And you don’t want to give German back to the owners?
    Before the Russians apologize for the tortured prisoners in the twenties?
    For the arrogant pans before the war, when they spoke through the lip with our Motherland?
    The speech of the political, as always and still is an artificial education. Only in appearance is a stable state.
    Do not throw stones while living in a glass house ...
  28. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 09: 37
    +1
    On December 24, the head of state of Russia called the bastard of the Polish ambassador to Nazi Germany, who in 1938 promised to erect a monument to Adolf Hitler in the event of the expulsion of Jews to Africa.

    In this regard, the Russian ambassador to Poland Sergey Andreev was called to the Polish Foreign Ministry. According to him, his conversation with the Poles was quite correct, but at the same time had a harsh nature of self-humiliation on the part of ... the Poles. laughing
  29. Amateur
    Amateur 30 December 2019 09: 43
    +2
    Poland is the only country whose exemption is a public holiday of Russia (November 4). Did you think that the Poles would not know about this ?. So why don’t they push their cheeks.
    The French were also in the Kremlin, and then left. But "the day of independence from France" for some reason was not invented. fool
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  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 10: 06
    0
    It was actually about a military and political alliance, which suggested the division of Europe into spheres of influence.the words of Mr. Moravetsky. Article of the agreement: In the event of a territorial-political reorganization of the areas belonging to the Polish state, the border of the spheres of interest of Germany and the USSR will pass along the lines of the Narew, Vistula and San rivers. The question of whether it is in the mutual interests to preserve the Polish state government and what the borders of this state will be, can be finally clarified only during the course of further political development. And all laughing http://historyfoundation.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/61819624_2119942691461395_1811379706646233088_n.jpg Настоящие сканы ,а не какие то "фото" laughing
  32. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 30 December 2019 10: 14
    0
    Psheks still keep concentration camps clean and ready.
  33. Den717
    Den717 30 December 2019 10: 15
    0
    The opinion of even a major politician is not worth much if it does not have documentary support.
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  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 10: 19
    +1
    “Why such a reaction, why call the ambassador?

    It’s very simple: in order to immediately replay this situation in your favor and say: “No, maybe it was, but not really.” laughing
  36. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 December 2019 10: 20
    +2
    It was actually about a military and political alliance, which suggested the division of Europe into spheres of influence.
    Well, the partition of Poland is not a division of spheres of influence in Europe. Horse frogs have too much opinion about their significance in the world, so they will not last long.
  37. Sergey79
    Sergey79 30 December 2019 10: 27
    +2
    Of course, they do not like Stalin. After all, he broke the back of this entire European team
  38. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 30 December 2019 10: 29
    -1
    Quote: maidan.izrailovich
    Any country has problems. And Russia is no exception. But this does not cancel the historical truth.
    And the truth is that Poland was actively looking for an alliance with fascist Germany. And in relation to the Jews, the points of view of the German fascists and Poles coincided.

    She was not only looking. She actually defended Germany, not allowing Soviet troops through her territory to cover her western borders from attack. Preferring the choice to lie under the Germans, "defending" for a whole month. Such an "active struggle" against aggression is more like an excuse for posterity than a real war in the name of freedom. They try to cover up the shame of their disgusting behavior with the usual fanatics characteristic of these puffed up geese.
  39. Kibl
    Kibl 30 December 2019 10: 34
    0
    But where does the Pilsudski-Hitler Pact and SP 2 have to do with this, what does this premier humpback sculpt? The campaign in Poland started to move with the mind, all the time and again the same people. History is an accurate science, you can’t argue against facts and documents. this abomination! All kind people with Happy New Year!
  40. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 December 2019 10: 39
    0
    By the way, it will be interesting for Polish Catholics to recall that among the 10 Commandments voiced by Moses and among the 7 “Deadly Sins” “Treason” was not named ... laughing
    1. Avior
      Avior 30 December 2019 11: 33
      0
      1 and 2 points indicate who should not be betrayed
      By the way, for the Orthodox, everything is the same as for the Catholics
  41. Warrior05
    Warrior05 30 December 2019 10: 40
    +1
    Stalinism and Stalin justify and do not .... this is our story! where, by the way, there were great achievements.
    The people themselves respect Stalin!
    It’s a pity in the government that you won’t find such a leader ....
    1. balunn
      balunn 30 December 2019 11: 41
      0
      in government now respect Manerheim
  42. Swed
    Swed 30 December 2019 11: 34
    0
    I don’t remember what they called, memory lessons or whatever. But I know that children are brought from Israel to Poland, taken to all places where Jews were killed. They say how good Poles themselves willingly helped the Nazis and participated in pogroms.
    “As you know, the German invaders were engaged in 'cleansing' the ghettos, into which Jews were forcibly resettled in 1939-1940, sending the inhabitants of the ghetto to death camps. Trying to avoid deportation, many Jews hid in the countryside. They hid in the forests or sought protection from the local population.

    Very often it turned out that the help from the local village Poles is a little like altruism. So, the Pole Kozik granted the Jewess Rivka Gluckman and her two sons asylum, but demanded money for it. When the three fugitives had nothing to pay, he killed them with an ax. The cries of these people were heard in several neighboring houses.

    In order to find the hiding Jews, the invaders decided to resort to the old and tested method, promising a decent wartime reward for each caught. And the local population, mainly anti-Semitic Catholics, went out on a "hunt" that sometimes could last for several days.

    The American historian Jan Gross recalled the bloody massacre in the small town of Edbavne, located northwest of Warsaw. On July 10, 1941, a crowd of Poles drove the Jewish population to the square. In the presence of the German occupiers, some Jews were still harassed and killed along the way, while the rest were driven into a barn and burned there alive. A total of 340 people died in the fire - men, women and children.

    The most famous crime against European Jews after the war was committed on 4 July 1946 in the town of Kielce. During the pogrom, Polish militias and civilians attacked people who survived the horrors of National Socialist madness, and these events were provoked by the spreading rumors about the kidnapping of a child, allegedly committed by Jews. "
  43. 1536
    1536 30 December 2019 11: 43
    +1
    It is not up to the Poles to judge who is the victim in Russia. How many Poles - executioners of the Russian people were not counted. Starting from the very events of the late XVI - early XVII century, when the Poles tricked into Russian land to rob and kill, and ending with today's betrayal, when, knowing that no one was threatening them, the Poles sought to host American military bases and did harm in every possible way Russia and the Russian people both at the UN and other international organizations.
    Poles, take us away from sin, she's Bo! Take care of your problems! In "Zucchini" 13 chairs, not everything is in order.
  44. Desperado
    Desperado 30 December 2019 11: 55
    -1
    Quote: Warrior05
    Stalinism and Stalin justify and do not .... this is our story! where, by the way, there were great achievements.
    The people themselves respect Stalin!
    It’s a pity in the government that you won’t find such a leader ....


    No "Great" accomplishments and achievements can justify the genocide of their people ...
    1. Rakovor
      Rakovor 30 December 2019 13: 37
      0
      What genocide, what are you talking about, go to bed and compare population growth then and now. That's where the genocide is.
  45. ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo
    ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo 30 December 2019 12: 34
    -1
    That rare case when both, sort of, are right.
    Putin did not say a single gram of untruth about Poland, and the Polish prime minister was right in his statement about Putin’s motives.
  46. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 30 December 2019 12: 45
    -1
    Quote: Egorchik
    In my opinion, this is obvious, Hitler hated other peoples, and the Russian usurper hates Russians with all the fibers of his soul.

    And, that is why he did EVERYTHING to save this people from destruction.
    Bydlyatina, you can only think of such a thing.
  47. Rakovor
    Rakovor 30 December 2019 13: 35
    0
    I wonder if “It was then actually about a military and political alliance, which implied the division of Europe into spheres of influence,” then why did we not act together with Germany against England and France, as a faithful ally would have done. This makes no sense.
  48. Million
    Million 30 December 2019 14: 00
    +2
    Nonsense is carried by the Pole. Never Putin, especially with the government, were fans of Stalin!
  49. Jarserge
    Jarserge 30 December 2019 14: 12
    0
    The demagogy of the Poles is something with something. The historical truth is that before the war, Poland was the first state to conclude a pact with Hitler and participated in the division of Czechoslovakia. The fact is that the USSR entered Poland when it ceased to exist as a state. The fact is that Poland then, as now, hoped that England and France would intercede for it, now the United States. How then and now they don’t understand that Poland is just an instrument needed for certain actions, who is saving the instrument? And in the event of a direct collision, Poland is a battlefield, with all the ensuing consequences
  50. Forest
    Forest 30 December 2019 15: 00
    +1
    This prime minister does not represent the Poles, he is simply a protege of the USS. Therefore, you can ignore his words.