The incident with the Su-57 studied: the promise to improve the aircraft

The incident with the Su-57 studied: the promise to improve the aircraft

The results of the commission that studied the incident with the Su-57 will form the basis for improving the complex. As for the incident, then, according to the CEO of the UAC, when testing complex equipment, they are "always possible."


According to the Director General of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), Y. Slyusar, the results of the work of the commission, which studied the crash of the Su-57, will subsequently be aimed at improving this latest fighter.

According to Mr. Slyusar, testing new technology can always lead to incidents, and the Su-57 is the “high-tech sophisticated technique.”

He also noted that these aircraft "flew several thousand flights." However, with equipment of this level, "accidents sometimes happen."

Most important: the pilot is alive, there are no injuries, concluded Slyusar.

Recall, the aforementioned Su-57 (T-50), the first aircraft that was supposed to be transferred to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation before the end of 2019, crashed on December 24 near Khabarovsk. The pilot ejected.

At a recent Army-2019 forum, the parties signed a contract for the supply of seventy-six Su-57s for the airborne forces. However, tests are still underway. Earlier, the Ministry of Defense has repeatedly stated that the aircraft passed successful tests in the Syrian Arab Republic.
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  1. Ugolek 30 December 2019 06: 38 New
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    Somehow quickly announced the results .. Strange, it seems that until the 31st it was necessary to report, so as not to ruin the coherent plan on paper. And the essence of the reason is not indicated ..
    1. bessmertniy 30 December 2019 07: 23 New
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      Probably, the reasons were so clear that a lengthy investigation was not required. And to publicly state the reasons is a moot point.
      1. Alexey Sommer 30 December 2019 07: 39 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Probably the reasons were so clear.

        I wonder what the reason for the collapse of such a complex technique may be among the obvious! Give an example?
        1. Mavrikiy 30 December 2019 12: 45 New
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          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          Quote: bessmertniy
          Probably

          I wonder what the reason for the collapse of such a complex technique may be among the obvious! Give an example?
          That's just the point, the technique is complicated. Gadgets, a lot of bolts .... and each is crucial. If it’s so interesting that you can’t eat, go through the FSB check and get all the information. repeat
          1. volodimer 30 December 2019 20: 03 New
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            At one time, the F-1 McLaren team suffered due to a Chinese nut on the motor. And the best have flaws.
        2. Woland 30 December 2019 13: 00 New
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          And this is the disclosure of state secrets.
        3. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 08 New
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          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          I wonder what the reason for the collapse of such a complex technique may be among the obvious! Give an example?

          Excuse me, what do you understand in automatic flight control systems (ACS)? And what do you think in a remote control system (CDS)? Something tells me that to TELL you the reason for the incident is to shake the air for nothing. This, as a specialist in self-propelled guns, I declare!
    2. The popuas 30 December 2019 09: 18 New
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      Paying the thirteenth is at stake ... and that's scurrying around
      1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 12: 18 New
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        Those who were engaged in equipment and mechanisms for tail feathering now will definitely not see any thirteenth salary in the next few years, since they will have to pay damages to Moscow Region in the amount of more than 2 billion rubles for the loss of a car due to marriage in production.
        1. St Petrov 30 December 2019 13: 10 New
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          more than 2 billion rubles will have to be indemnified by the Moscow Region


          Vadim drinks insurance company

          1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 13: 15 New
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            I do not know such insurance companies.
            1. St Petrov 30 December 2019 15: 57 New
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              crashed in the Khabarovsk Territory, was insured, told RIA Novosti in the press service of the United ...


      2. Joker62 30 December 2019 15: 32 New
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        The "13th" salary has not been paid for a long time in the UAC! Even despite the fact that there is a smooth implementation of the State Order.
        It all depends on the leadership of the corporation, as UAC is a part of RosTech.
        All questions to Mr. Chemezov, President of the Corporation!
        Welcom!
      3. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 09 New
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        Quote: Popuas
        Paying the thirteenth is at stake ... and that's scurrying around

        Well yes! except that from the point of view of the Poop!
    3. Mar.Tirah 30 December 2019 10: 47 New
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      Quote: Ugolek
      Somehow quickly announced the results.

      There is no sounding whatsoever. There are only intentions to take this incident into account in future production. When there is nothing to report and the people demand, this news will go.
    4. Mavrikiy 30 December 2019 12: 38 New
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      Quote: Ugolek
      The incident with the Su-57 studied: the promise to improve the aircraft

      Yes. We just brought beer, but we caught a roach today. repeat So the matter will not work, the uniform at least was launched into the washer. smile
    5. Incvizitor 30 December 2019 12: 41 New
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      Well, the pilot is safe, it was easier to deal with him.
    6. peter rusin_2 30 December 2019 13: 08 New
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      And why did you decide that they should tell you the whole truth?
    7. Pariv 30 December 2019 23: 41 New
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      They do not have to give a reason. It is a military aircraft with classified components for sure. It is not a civilian airplane, nobody is going to book a seat on it.
  2. Nevsky_ZU 30 December 2019 06: 41 New
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    Somehow contradictory and foggy at first:

    who studied the crash of the Su-57, will subsequently be aimed at improving this latest fighter.


    And then:

    He also noted that these aircraft "flew several thousand flights." However, with equipment of this level, "accidents sometimes happen."


    From his words it is not clear whether this is a defect in the design revealed or factory defect of the first serial? Or maybe a glitch in computer brains? Something is not correctly downloaded from the software? What if the pilot’s mistake? Sergei Bogdan flew for years on the T-50 in different modes, almost a decade, but then another pilotrequest
    1. maden.usmanow 30 December 2019 07: 08 New
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      Alas, such openness, as in F 35, of course will not.
    2. NKT
      NKT 30 December 2019 09: 31 New
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      There was infa that this software, as for the pilot, its total flight time is about 1000 hours, and on the Su-57 a little more than one hour.
      1. Nevsky_ZU 30 December 2019 09: 54 New
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        I do not beg the pilot's professionalism, but they themselves said:
        Quote: NKT
        and on the Su-57 a little over one hour.

        Plus, according to the media, this pilot crashed on the Su-30SM during the tests also near Khabarovsk. Why did the GLITs pilots, who used the Su-57 in all sorts of different modes after Sergey Bogdan, did not find anything like this and there were no incidents. And then a full-time pilot from the plant when transferred to the military and such ...
        But I also hope that this software and someone messed up from the IT support department. Such a "boy" with a laptop before take-off, since the times of gray-haired mechanics have already passed.
        1. tracer 31 December 2019 07: 01 New
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          From what fright have the days gone by? What ceased to apply hydraulics, pneumatics and servo? In knots and mechanisms, sliding, rolling, ball and roller bearings stopped working? Someone canceled the principle of a bolted joint or rivets? Vibrational and thermal loads ceased to affect all this business? It is only in young animals that the time of technology has completely passed and software is more important. Just smiled about the "gray-haired" traveled.
      2. NN52 30 December 2019 10: 38 New
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        NKT (Sergey)
        Where did such data about the raid come from? Have you personally seen his flight book?
        With 1000 hours, not everyone can enter the ShLIS (school of test pilots) .... and you write 1000 hours ....
        He is a 1st class test pilot.
        The total plaque is "much" more!
        I don’t know about the raid on Su 57. But it was "far" not his first flight on this type.
        1. NKT
          NKT 30 December 2019 10: 49 New
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          Here is an example link:
          total flying time 1800 hours, a bit wrong

          http://debri-dv.com/m/article/23786/novye_podrobnosti_katastrofy_su-57_poterya_upravleniya_i_vrashchenie

          https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.rambler.ru%2Farmy%2F43422263-vosstanovlena-kartina-krusheniya-noveyshego-rossiyskogo-istrebitelya%2F



          1. Avior 30 December 2019 11: 43 New
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            Aleksey Gorshkov is a 2nd-class test pilot and holds the post of deputy chief of the military mission No. 485 at the Ministry of Defense.

            it turns out that he is not a factory pilot, or am I misunderstood?
            1. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 49 New
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              Quote: Avior
              it turns out that he is not a factory pilot, or am I misunderstood?

              Read LIPS, if you can’t “off the page”: deputy military representative. Military representative - have you heard that? At each plant that produces military products by order of the Moscow Region there is a military representative.
              1. Avior 30 December 2019 23: 49 New
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                did you understand the question actually?
                the fact that he is a pilot is understandable, but if he is a military representative, then not the factory, but the MO
                and your educational program is not the case
          2. Pete mitchell 30 December 2019 13: 00 New
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            I still wildly apologize, but you seem to have no idea the essence of your
            Quote: NKT
            wrong a little
            - This is several years of stress, and judging by the fact that he is experiencing -57th, successful work.
            1. NKT
              NKT 30 December 2019 13: 06 New
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              He flew on the Su-57 a little more than an hour.
              1. Pete mitchell 30 December 2019 13: 49 New
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                It doesn’t add up: if the raid is just over an hour, then he was hardly involved in the transfer of the aircraft to the customer.
              2. NEXUS 30 December 2019 13: 57 New
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                Quote: NKT
                He flew on the Su-57 a little more than an hour.

                No one will put a pilot in the newest fighter without first preparing him for this. Plus, a raid on other aircraft, which indicates the pilot's experience. Even Bogdan has said more than once that if you compare the control of the SU-57 and SU-27, then this is how to compare the control of a premium Mercedes car with a Zhiguli. The fighter crashed not through the fault of the pilot, but through the fault of iron and software.
                1. Pete mitchell 30 December 2019 14: 04 New
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                  So nobody seems to be on the pilot cracks
                  1. NEXUS 30 December 2019 15: 22 New
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                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    So nobody seems to be on the pilot cracks

                    I mean, the man said that the pilot did not fly on it even for an hour ... to which I replied, no one would put a pilot who was not properly trained (under this machine) in the new fighter.
                    1. Pete mitchell 30 December 2019 16: 50 New
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                      So I say: inconsistency. Journalists guys unprincipled
                    2. shahor 31 December 2019 02: 41 New
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                      Quote: NEXUS
                      no one will put a pilot who is not properly trained (under this machine) in a new fighter.

                      A ground-based simulator has been created for the F-35, which makes it possible to effectively train pilots. Is there such a thing for Su?
                2. NKT
                  NKT 30 December 2019 14: 18 New
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                  Nexus, I do not blame the pilot.
                  There is information for consideration.

                  that the total operating time of the Su-57 (of this board) was only 7 hours 40 minutes with five landings.


                  As for the FAC Alexei Gorshkov, he is a test pilot of the 2nd class and holds the position of Deputy Head of the Military Representation No. 485 at the Ministry of Defense. The total flight time of the pilot is 1731 hours and 9 minutes, and on a Su-57 aircraft - 1 hour 11 minutes.
                  1. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 44 New
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                    Quote: NKT
                    There is information for consideration.

                    Well. Yes! the pilot himself showed his flight book! Of course! fool
                3. ver_ 30 December 2019 16: 01 New
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                  ... well, so on the spot of the burned plane, I suppose I didn’t find a wrench or screwdriver ..
      3. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 57 New
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        I think, and I have already come across this, the thing is that ALL journalists are HUMANITARIANS, as a rule. incompetent in engineering and technical matters, and even in aviation subjects - fool absolute. Hence all the controversial points!
    3. Avior 30 December 2019 10: 17 New
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      Actually quite clearly said
      the results of the work of the commission, which studied the crash of the Su-57, will subsequently be aimed at improving this latest fighter.

      That is, the problem was with the plane itself
      1. Voyager 30 December 2019 12: 06 New
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        Anything can be said publicly, especially since even now this remark sounds very vague.
    4. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 32 New
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      Believe me, bro, the old aviator - you know less - sleep better! Or "knowledge multiplies sorrow!" (with)
  3. The popuas 30 December 2019 06: 47 New
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    Several thousand flights flew .... it's like that !?
    1. Alexey Sommer 30 December 2019 07: 41 New
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      Quote: Popuas
      Several thousand flights flew .... it's like that !?

      This, as they did not fly, just the opposite.
      ps Actually, what is the question, such is the answer.)
      1. The popuas 30 December 2019 08: 15 New
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        I understand thousands of hours have flown, and a thousand flights is nonsense .... In principle, one can not even hear from the producer of the recording station.
        1. Alexey Sommer 30 December 2019 13: 26 New
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          Quote: Popuas
          and a thousand flights is nonsense ....

          Why do you think so?..
          Let's take it together.
          Experiencing an airplane, if not mistaken, since 2010.
          In 17, made the first flight of 11 prototype.
          I think the program was quite intense.
          And the figure of 1 flights, for example, does not seem unrealistic to me.
    2. Piramidon 30 December 2019 10: 49 New
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      Quote: Popuas
      Several thousand flights flew .... it's like that !?

      Apparently, Slyusar has his own units of measurement of plaque. And he considers a raid not in hours, but in cycles: take-off and landing. Although these figures are also displayed on the airplane form, they are only called not operating hours, but operating hours.
      1. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 39 New
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        I think the question here is the competence of a journalist in the aviation field. I suspect that the word "hours" is corny missing. Although, I do not exclude it, in view of the very busy schedule of tests, and the number of sorties.
    3. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 35 New
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      what how?" A day - for several departures, according to the planning table. Or is it more important to you how many kilometers? Sorry, there is no speedometer with an odometer on board!
      1. Piramidon 30 December 2019 20: 08 New
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        Quote: Igor Aviator
        Or is it more important to you, "how many kilometers? Sorry, there is no speedometer with an odometer on board!"

        Do not foolishly. Plaque is measured in flight HOURS and everyone here talks about it. About mileage, only you were honored.
  4. Errr 30 December 2019 06: 51 New
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    From the article:
    He also [Slyusar] noted that these aircraft “several thousand flights flew". [??]
    Having looked through the biography:
    Yuri Slyusar began his career as soon as he graduated from the university. In 1996, he became the CEO of LLC Firm UBS (Moscow diversified company). Later, he decided to try himself in the music and production business. In 1999-2003 he was first director, then general director of Monolit-ABK LLC, which was engaged in sound recordings and producing various artists. In 2003-2008, he transferred to Rostvertol OJSC, located in his hometown of Rostov-on-Don.
    realized - another fictitious daddy's son on a fat state field.
    Detailed biography here: https://globalmsk.ru/person/id/4707
    1. Victoria-V 30 December 2019 07: 55 New
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      Why are you writing such horrors on New Year's Eve ... Let's celebratory, optimistic.
      1. Errr 30 December 2019 08: 21 New
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        Quote: Victoria-In
        ... such horrors on New Year's Eve ... Let's be festive, optimistic.
        Well then, we drive the whole three downhill! drinks Champagne !!! laughing
      2. Mestny 30 December 2019 10: 11 New
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        No, of course not.
        Let's cry and tear your hair out. After all, everything is so bad with us.
        If we sing the mantra "Putin-walk" at the New Year's table in chorus, then what if he really leaves? Let's live !.

        "You told me the simple truth,
        I want a terrible thing
        Such that,
        Howl, huddle, wheeze "
        1. Sarkazm 30 December 2019 12: 49 New
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          "Putin leave" God forbid !!! What do you say about the Father Native? !! Our strategist heaped it up :(, now there is a snake ball, and without it the bar will start to fight at lackeys forelocks will crack, that is, our children and us, their children and families will be behind the hill for a long time, so it’s better if Brezhnev decays in the Kremlin , then what Andropov and Chernenko, but in the Mishanya America termination, and then the governors and presidents of autonomies will gather somewhere in the Altai Forest, let them announce Muscovy, the Siberian Republic, etc.

          We cleaned the field, there is no constructive opposition, patriots, not mongrels on the content of the State Department. Patriots are not needed, they are afraid of them, because if they come, they will transplant the current ones, they will go home from all over the hill, they will be put on bunks here, and then they will introduce the death penalty. And then these how they feel that the chair is swinging under them, they immediately want to restore the mortal, so that later Europe and others will not give them to us :)
          1. antivirus 30 December 2019 14: 58 New
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            Our strategist heaped it up :(, now there is a snake ball, and without it the bar will start to fight at lackeys forelocks will crack, that is, our children and us, their children and families will be behind the hill for a long time, so it’s better if Brezhnev decays in the Kremlin ,
            - there is a level of development of the productive forces and industrial relations - the request of society and "what else to tolerate."
            we are developing.
            but not to jump from the peasants 50 years ago, half lived in cities (and where is the second?) and until the consciousness of "citizen-townsman", not a tradesman is still far away.
            and IVS and Brezhnev and GDP - you only travel companions with the peoples of the USSR-Russia along this path.
            when we say “enough” and “it should be so, not otherwise” - it will be so.
            Most should say and DO HOW THEY SAID, DO NOT GET OFF.
            In the meantime, it will do. that's how we live
  5. Vladimir_2U 30 December 2019 06: 52 New
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    As for the incident, then, according to the CEO of the UAC, when testing complex equipment, they are "always possible." That and that, that it is already a plane for transfer to the army, of course it is necessary to fly around, and formally it’s a test, but it’s already in regular modes. A decent blow to prestige, unfortunately.
    1. Herman 4223 30 December 2019 13: 34 New
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      Do you think the factory is 100% quality? Of course, I did not work specifically on this. But he worked on one where quality is well monitored. The employee can safely pass 2% of the parts to the marriage (this is to not be sent further with the hope of chance), and all the same, when checking the finished assembled products, the marriage is periodically detected. And here's another question, the first production car was made and assembled by the same people as experienced ones? It is quite possible that not, it could also have an effect, they mixed something up and this is the result.
  6. rocket757 30 December 2019 06: 53 New
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    The results of the commission that studied the incident with the Su-57 will form the basis for improving the complex.

    The technique is new, the incidents will be ... where without them. The main thing is the immediate work of designers, manufacturers, to eliminate the identified defects, shortcomings.
    1. bouncyhunter 30 December 2019 08: 10 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      The technique is new, incidents will be ... where without them

      That's it . There is no new technology without "childhood diseases." I want you to get rid of them at an accelerated pace.
      Victor, salute! soldier
      1. rocket757 30 December 2019 08: 24 New
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        hello Pasha soldier
        Most importantly, the guys need to be more thorough. There is time, because we have a strategic reserve of defense capability, security ... and until the next generation of equipment or one that uses hitherto unknown principles, everything is still not clear.
        1. bouncyhunter 30 December 2019 08: 27 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          more thoroughly need guys

          I’m talking about that.
          Quote: rocket757
          There is time

          Oh oh Resting on our laurels is not a trace, friend ... Moving forward is life.
          1. rocket757 30 December 2019 08: 31 New
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            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Going forward is life.

            Of course forward! But systematically, thoroughly, FOREVER! We will leave flea and other races to others, if they cannot do otherwise.
            1. bouncyhunter 30 December 2019 08: 34 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              We will leave flea and other races to others, if they cannot do otherwise

              Undoubtedly! drinks
              We will leave the speaking heads from NATO on the conscience of the countries representing them ...
              1. rocket757 30 December 2019 08: 43 New
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                Quote: bouncyhunter
                We will leave the speaking heads from NATO on the conscience of the countries representing them ...

                A talking head, not synonymous with reasonably expressed, is now, very unfortunately.
                1. bouncyhunter 30 December 2019 08: 46 New
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                  Quote: rocket757
                  Talking head not synonymous with reasonably expressed, now, very unfortunately.

                  I highlighted the main thing.
                  1. rocket757 30 December 2019 09: 18 New
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                    Unfortunately, that’s it.
      2. Kurare 30 December 2019 14: 38 New
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        Quote: bouncyhunter
        There is no new technology without "childhood diseases."

        hi Good day.
        Of course, there is no new technology without flaws, but there is something wrong. Too quickly figured out! On the one hand, this is excellent, but on the other, a clear sign of either marriage or neglect due to rush.
  7. knn54 30 December 2019 07: 19 New
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    -Plane promise to improve.
    Hope to wait not three years.
  8. Flawless 30 December 2019 07: 43 New
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    I don’t understand what kind of overshoot due to the fall of the SU-57, many fighters even crash after exploitation during the operation for various reasons, this is not a reason to panic, for example, the F-35 breaks all records on the air from the height. And so the best plane in those days, the SU-27 also crashed during testing and not even for technical reasons. It was just tested for strength. In the flight mission, the pilot was given the task during a horizontal flight to sharply put the plane in a vertical position and return it to the horizontal, in general Pugachev’s forerunner’s cobra, only of an unlimited angle of attack. When the pilot put the plane in an upright position, he lost consciousness and the plane weakened. The unconscious state inertia fell on the lever with his hand, the plane sharply went down and the glider started to fall apart from overloads, having come to its senses nothing could be done even to eject from that position. The poor man died rest in peace. But the investigation found the reason and conclusions were drawn. With SU-57, thank God without sacrifices, and the car will be brought to mind on time.
    1. donavi49 30 December 2019 09: 23 New
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      Well, the first F-35 crashed in 2018, when they were already assembled almost 400. The second in 2019 - when they were already collected 450 cars.
      1. Herman 4223 30 December 2019 13: 40 New
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        F-22 also crashed. When still not in a series.
        1. Kurare 30 December 2019 14: 43 New
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          In fairness, I must say that the crashed F22 with the production car had very little in common. Summed up a completely new software, which is then seriously modified.
    2. opus 30 December 2019 15: 33 New
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      Quote: Flawless
      I don’t understand what kind of overexposure due to the fall of the SU-57

      1.Because before the New Year - this "gift" happened
      2.because it was first production sample, with tail number 01 "blue"
      3.yes because everyone already got it, like:

      Sad holiday: a snowman-swindler, candy with mold, the death of Santa Claus
      In Volgograd, on a New Year's holiday for WWII veterans, the guest was forced to pay for champagne. And in Chelyabinsk, kindergarten children slipped mold gifts. How and who else managed to spoil the holiday, read the material AiF.ru.
    3. Tuzik 30 December 2019 16: 02 New
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      And what was the reason then?
  9. Dmitriy Zadorozhniy 30 December 2019 08: 54 New
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    The reasons will be found out. I’ll finish it. And the bird will fly. When the "crane" was put on the wing, hp there were many. So what? The Crane became the ancestor of both the strike aircraft and the 5th generation aircraft. For that, tests are needed.
  10. Victor March 47 30 December 2019 11: 09 New
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    Quote: Ugolek
    Somehow quickly announced the results .. Strange, it seems that until the 31st it was necessary to report, so as not to ruin the coherent plan on paper. And the essence of the reason is not indicated ..

    In order to find out, a lot of time was not required. The control system refused. Aircraft maneuverability is possible when designing it with the properties of extreme instability in flight, which MUST be successfully overcome by control automation.
    A well-balanced plane resists the pilot with all his strength, without performing sharp and deep turns. And here the right choice is important, without going to extremes. Any system saturated with complexities and bells and whistles of modes can, with a combination of extreme modes, “wedge” and freeze.
    1. Tuzik 30 December 2019 16: 05 New
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      Or maybe it’s easier, they didn’t spin something?
  11. Sansculotte 30 December 2019 13: 23 New
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    Clearly, another 5-6 years to finalize and a couple of "Heroes of Russia" effective managers (who have nothing to do with) to assign with an increase
    1. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 27 New
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      Well. so go ahead! Be "with", you look and you will get! Not capable - sit quietly under a broom, do not lean out!
  12. opus 30 December 2019 15: 07 New
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    According to Mr. Slyusar, testing new technology can always lead to incidents, and the Su-57 is the “high-tech sophisticated technique.”

    WHERE DOES "Mister" (Whose?) Does the Slusar know about (about trials, about technology)?

    Since the late 1990s, he has been engaged in the production and recording business, headed the Monolit production center. Among the performers with whom his center worked was singer Natalya Ionina, better known as Gluk'oZa.
    In 1996 - graduated from Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosov.
    Candidate of Economic Sciences.
    From 1996 to 1999 - General Director of LLC Firm UBS.
    From 1999 to 2003 - Director, General Director of Monolit-ABK LLC.

    Father - Boris Nikolayevich Slyusar - Chairman of the Board of Directors of OJSC Rostvertol (since 2014, in 2000-2014 - General Director of the company).
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    Slyusar Yuri Borisovich
    CEO is the sole executive body of PJSC UAC and performs the functions of the Chairman of the Management Board. The General Director is entitled to resolve all issues of the Corporation's current activities, with the exception of issues within the competence of the General Meeting of Shareholders, the Board of Directors and the Management Board.
  13. Operator 30 December 2019 15: 42 New
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    I don’t understand what kind of overexposure due to the fall of the SU-57

    This is not a stir, but a holiday (short-lived) of Russophobes of all stripes.
  14. Nikolai Redko 30 December 2019 18: 44 New
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    Results .., will form the basis for improving the complex.

    Here! This is the most important thing: working on bugs. Indeed: everyone is alive, there are no material losses on earth. Sorry for the car, but it's passing! The road will be overcome by a walker!
  15. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 11 New
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    When there is nothing to report and the people demand

    Is this what you require? Excuse me, but on what basis? "Whose will you be?" (with)
  16. Igor Aviator 30 December 2019 19: 22 New
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    Quote: Herman 4223
    e people that are experienced? It is quite possible that not, it could also have an effect, they mixed something up and this is the result.

    Inexperienced at the KnAPO factory, believe me! Each operation is subject to operational control (even in parts-operating organizations), in addition, a lot of operations are subjected to photocontrol. I won’t be surprised. if video control is implemented at the plants.
  17. seacap 30 December 2019 20: 56 New
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    Tests will continue to continue, the entire period of operation of the machine.
  18. silver169 31 December 2019 07: 15 New
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    Well, and so everyone was worried. The problems will be eliminated and in ten years, fifteen years the plane will go into series. wassat laughing drinks
  19. Victor March 47 31 December 2019 20: 21 New
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    Quote: Albert Zirch
    I'm not looking for shit, you and so here 90%, it was about your hypocrisy, duplicity !!
    Better go on playing shit tanks and drink beer, and don’t yap at me !!

    And you would have faded from here, shit.