“This is a Stalinist narrative”: The Polish Foreign Ministry talked about a conversation with the Russian ambassador

“This is a Stalinist narrative”: The Polish Foreign Ministry talked about a conversation with the Russian ambassador

The Polish Foreign Ministry commented on the call of the Russian ambassador Sergey Andreev in connection with the well-known statements of Vladimir Putin about the cooperation of the Polish authorities with Hitler in the 30s of the XX century. Recall that the President of Russia at several meetings presented data from archival documents, which, in particular, reported on the approval by the Polish ambassador to the Third Reich, Joseph Lipsky, of the expulsion of Jews from Europe to Africa.


Recall that on the eve of the Russian ambassador to Poland, after visiting the Polish Foreign Ministry, he noted the following:

The conversation was tough, but at the same time quite correct.

Sergey Andreev also said that Russia would not allow anyone to read notations.

The Polish media published comments on this issue by Marcin Psidach (pictured here). This is the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, heading the so-called Eastern Department.

Psidach in an interview with the Polish Press Agency:

The Russian ambassador was expressed a position regarding the inadmissibility of historical insinuations, which representatives of the top Russian leadership have repeatedly allowed themselves in recent days. To Russian historical imagination consciously penetrates the Stalinist narrative.

According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider the data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”. Accordingly, it is difficult to imagine what, in this case, the data and materials of the modern Polish authorities do not belong to “historical insinuations”.

Psidach:
We conveyed to the Russian ambassador our position that the position of the Russian authorities is in serious conflict with the country's international obligations, as well as in fact a mockery of millions of victims of the Stalinist regime, including primarily the people of Russia itself.
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  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. cniza 29 December 2019 13: 22 New
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      And not only about Poland. yes
      1. Shurik70 29 December 2019 15: 31 New
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        Such poles, cool poles ...
        And how should a Pole frighten an Englishman, the "Polish guy from Russia" seems to be
        Quarrel on the train

        The British made a remark to the Pole for alcohol, but faced with charges of racism

        Submitted by Tvc plus Friday, December 6, 2019
        1. rich 29 December 2019 16: 12 New
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          The Polish Foreign Ministry commented on the call of the Russian ambassador Sergey Andreev in connection with the well-known statements of Vladimir Putin about the cooperation of the Polish authorities with Hitler in the 30s of the XX century. Recall that the President of Russia at several meetings presented data from archival documents, which, in particular, reported on the approval by the Polish ambassador to the Third Reich, Joseph Lipsky, of the expulsion of Jews from Europe to Africa.

          It is characteristic that the Polish Foreign Ministry did not threaten the Ambassador of the Russian Federation Sergey Andreev with expulsion from Poland and did not even dare to Hand over a "Note of Protest"
          Igor Sergeev:“The fact that Poland exists today and the Polish people live on their own land is“ a direct consequence of our victory. ”“ And since it is difficult to deny this fact, they try to obscure, distort, cover it up with arguments that the Soviet Union is responsible for the beginning The Second World War. "We can’t put up with this in any case. This is our story. This is our duty to our ancestors. This, after all, is the most important component of our national identity." And the words of our president are a kind of vaccine against Polish society. id her "neo-Nazism" and rewriting history "

          .
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    1. 210ox 29 December 2019 14: 19 New
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      It would be nice if the "Stalinist narrative" penetrated our leadership ..
      1. Major Yurik 29 December 2019 14: 54 New
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        Quote: 210ox
        It would be nice if the "Stalinist narrative" penetrated our leadership ..

        I don’t understand why Russia should prove something to someone, justify for the past, all the more so before the Poles where there are nowhere to put samples! am There are real archives, testimonies of witnesses, film and so on. All this broadcast on all media, the Internet and all TV in all languages! Originals are really an impenetrable thing, and the main thing is not to pay attention to the squeals of any Poland, Baltic states, Bandera and other allies of Hitler! Ugh on their reaction many times! negative
        1. Tuk77 29 December 2019 15: 20 New
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          Are you sure it will be useful if you open real archives?
          At one time, we agreed that the secret protocol to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact did exist, although it had been categorically denied before.
          And how much has this already caused controversy?
          But this is a drop in the sea of ​​archives. Most of which, by the way, for reasons unknown to us, are still closed.
          1. RUSS 29 December 2019 15: 26 New
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            Quote: Tuk77
            But this is a drop in the sea of ​​archives. Most of which, by the way, for reasons unknown to us, are still closed.

            And for some archives, Putin has increased the privacy term.
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi 29 December 2019 17: 03 New
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            Quote: Tuk77
            that the secret protocol to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact really existed

            But the Poles - no secrecy. The Pilsudski-Hitler Pact had a clause on the free transit of German troops to the eastern border. But on the eastern border, at that time, there was nothing but the USSR. The Poles were Hitler’s ideological allies in both the Russian and Jewish issues. And somehow they did not notice the point of Hitler's doctrine on the expulsion of inferior Poles, Serbs, Ukrainians - to the Urals. The Poles considered themselves full! And what the small assistant to Bandera (Hitler, in modern Ukrainian historiography) considered, they did not care.
          3. PSih2097 29 December 2019 19: 37 New
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            Quote: Tuk77
            Most of which, by the way, for reasons unknown to us, are still closed.

            there is such a sign of secrecy - shoot yourself before reading (OGV - keep forever) ...
            1. rich 29 December 2019 23: 35 New
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              PSih2097 (Alexander Latysh): there is such a sign of secrecy - shoot yourself before reading (OGV - keep forever) ..

              The neck of secrecy - to keep forever never existed. You mixed two completely different concepts.
              Class of secrecy - an indicator of the degree of secrecy of activities, information, documents, publications, special areas and works. The degree of secrecy is determined by the vultures:
              1) "of particular importance",
              2) "top secret",
              3) "secret"
              4) "for official use
              the first three degrees of the neck in accordance with Art. 8 of the Law of the Russian Federation "On state secret" refers to information constituting a state secret
              1. PSih2097 1 January 2020 10: 59 New
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                Quote: Rich
                The neck of secrecy - to keep forever never existed. You mixed two completely different concepts.

                Believe me, there is, only if you even touched it with a edge, you have been restricted to travel abroad for life ...
          4. MstislavHrabr 30 December 2019 00: 39 New
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            I am sure of the other. Our people alone, without snot (I mean assistants from other countries) will deal with the Stalinist legacy and the Stalinist past ... It would be nice to start this process with the abolition of the Bologna education system, because after all, in order to obtain a degree, a historian needs to have more publications in to the Western press ... And the West is ready to print only Russophobic opuses ... Thus, the Bologna system automatically eliminates and cuts off patriots. And soon our own universities will produce some Russophobes writing for the sake of the Western masters ...
            1. Procyon lotor 30 December 2019 18: 13 New
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              And where does the Bologna system?
          5. ASASHOKA 30 December 2019 17: 57 New
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            Our country is committed to following the agreements and international law!
            Hence, neither the disclosure nor the display of certain documents of history before time. The time is coming and for their generation of “crooked mirrors” of their generation, we have a “vaccination”, for example, in the form of publications of such truth documents. It will not be clear, another “vaccine” will appear. Everything needs to be submitted in time, so it is done.
            This will also affect our young generation if they are not told about such documents in the relevant educational institutions of the country. Judging by the education program, so far everything is on the level. As you know, who teaches history, he knows it. In general, our people know this story, remember everything and honor their national heroes.
        2. major147 29 December 2019 22: 14 New
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          Quote: Major Yurik
          Quote: 210ox
          It would be nice if the "Stalinist narrative" penetrated our leadership ..

          I don’t understand why Russia should prove something to someone, justify for the past, all the more so before the Poles where there are nowhere to put samples! am There are real archives, testimonies of witnesses, film and so on. All this broadcast on all media, the Internet and all TV in all languages! Originals are really an impenetrable thing, and the main thing is not to pay attention to the squeals of any Poland, Baltic states, Bandera and other allies of Hitler! Ugh on their reaction many times! negative

          So they do not want to see and accept it. It is more convenient and calmer for them to think in stereotypes habitual in the West.
      2. tracer 29 December 2019 18: 55 New
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        I think that is imbued. Otherwise, this would not have happened. Do not confuse leadership weaknesses and ingenious maneuvers aimed at avoiding a military conflict with the NATO Limitrophs and other rabble. But pulling into conflicts is the goal of our "partners."
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    3. vladcub 29 December 2019 16: 15 New
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      In fact, the Poles should not be blamed for Stalin: after the war, how much money was invested in Poland. And the growth of Poland due to Prussia? Again, "Stalin is to blame"
      1. major147 29 December 2019 22: 17 New
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        Quote: vladcub
        In fact, the Poles should not be blamed for Stalin: after the war, how much money was invested in Poland. And the growth of Poland due to Prussia? Again, "Stalin is to blame"

        So for that they do not like it, not themselves, but thanks to Stalin. I’m ashamed of my past and want to forget it ourselves and erase others in the memory.
    4. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 16: 40 New
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      The case when Stalin did not decide in vain, together with the British, to share this Euro-misunderstanding, called Poland! You need to rename a couple of outposts on the border with Polyakhia into Stalin outposts, put monuments there so that for tens of kilometers Poles saw them!

      There was no talk of this. Stalin initially wanted Poland, Churchill initially opposed this, and Roosevelt had to spit on Britons' European ambitions. As a result - they made a bargain - Stalin did not intervene in Greece on the side of the Communists, for this the whole of Poland left the Union.
  3. Ryaruav 29 December 2019 13: 10 New
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    Yes, God forbid, they will deny any historical documents for the sake of the United States.
    1. PSih2097 29 December 2019 19: 46 New
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      Quote: Ryaruav
      Yes, God forbid, they will deny any historical documents for the sake of the United States.

      Winston Churchill, "On the Meanness of the Poles" (1938)

      The heroic character traits of the Polish people should not force us to turn a blind eye to his recklessness and ingratitude, which for several centuries caused him immeasurable suffering.
      - In 1919, it was a country that the Allied victory turned into an independent republic, after many generations of division and slavery making it one of the main European powers.

      Now, in 1938, due to such an insignificant question as Teshin, the Poles broke up with all their friends in France, in England and in the USA, friends who returned their common national life and whose help they should soon need so much.

      We saw how now, while a reflection of the power of Germany fell on them, they hastened to seize their share in the plunder and ruin of Czechoslovakia. At the time of the crisis, all doors were closed for the English and French ambassadors. They were not even admitted to the Polish Foreign Minister.

      It should be considered as a mystery and tragedy of European history the fact that this people is capable of any heroism, some representatives of which are talented, valiant and charming, constantly demonstrating such shortcomings in almost all aspects of their state life. Glory in times of rebellion and grief; infamy and shame during periods of triumph. The bravest of the brave too often have been led by the most infamous of the vile!

      And yet there have always been two Poland:
      one fought for the truth
      and the other creeped into meanness.

      "Churchill said that Poland is the hyena of Europe. Why?
      An obscure country that wants to grab something for free. What the West is half-finished, Poland picks up. There are no countries in the world that adore Poland.
      In fact, the essence of the vileness of the Polish nation lies not only in gene rottenness, but also in the historically developed political situation. Let me remind you that earlier Poland (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth / Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) was a large European power, in its best times also owning Lithuania, Belarus, Latvia, Ukraine. Moreover, at some historical moments she accepted attempts to annex Russia (Russia) and the Holy Roman Empire (Germany).
      Figuratively speaking, to return from heaven to earth and see what Poland is today, it becomes clear that the current state of affairs is clearly gnawing on Polish self-consciousness. Frankly speaking, Poland today is in the political sense an absolute zero. And not the last role in the incineration of Polish greatness was played by the Russian Empire.
      The only reason Poland has not gone into oblivion for the minds of the Big Countries at all is that, due to its geopolitical position, Poland is one of the main “polyps” of Russia. Anyone who "owns" Poland can "crush" Russia. The Poles are stupid, they have always used and are using for their own purposes, but they don’t see anything of this, they are blinded by anger and hatred of Russia. That's all.
      For all these reasons, Poland today is a rotten, vile, vile nation. Almost the main reason for the existence of the Poles consider to annoy Russia. "Let me get worse, but I will make Russia worse." Moreover, Poland cannot even go beyond its base barbaric essence - "if he sees a Russian on the street, he will certainly spit in his direction." In terms of national character, Poles are worse than even Jews. Not only are they mean, they are also stupid.
      At the last European Football Championship, Polish nationalists attacked Russian fans. And those Russians who rebuffed were condemned by stupid Polish justice, which itself lives in its miserable medieval Russophobian little world.
      Poland is a kind of angry dog, driven out of the house, which is already weak and no one needs, but still barks and bothers.
  4. solzh 29 December 2019 13: 10 New
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    Russian ambassador expressed position on the inadmissibility of historical insinuations

    Still, the Polish Foreign Ministry and their power-abominable devils. History is being rewritten insolently, and when they are pointed out to their lies, they immediately recall the Goebel propaganda and pour dirt on our Great Victory, on our Great People and on our Great Joseph Vissarionovich.
    1. Vita vko 29 December 2019 14: 29 New
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      Quote: solzh
      Great Joseph Vissarionovich

      Please draw on the statistics of losses, 7 million fascists and 26 million Soviet citizens. Moreover, at the beginning of the war, our country paid the lives of dozens of its citizens for one killed fascist. Such huge losses in no way correlate with the "greatness" of leadership. The peoples of the USSR defeated due to mass heroism, which compensated for the mass repression and incompetence of the Stalinist elite. Victory in the Great Patriotic War is 100% Victory of the people of our country, who until the last, 1991, believed in what was said from the stands of the CPSU.
      1. tatarin1972 29 December 2019 14: 44 New
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        You do not confuse the soft with the warm, the irretrievable military losses of the USSR amount to 11 people, of which military personnel died - 444 people (100 soldiers died in battles, hospitals and other incidents, and 8 people did not return from captivity ) The rest is the loss of civilian population of the USSR. Another liberal nonsense, think that compares. Comparing the total losses of the USSR and the Wehrmacht on the eastern front.
      2. Looking for 29 December 2019 15: 07 New
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        You are very cunning. Like the current Russophobes. You operate with numbers and categories. You want to compare - compare the losses of the same military categories with the military. The civilian population with the civilian population. You don’t have to blame Stalin for the fact that Hitler’s troops destroyed the Soviet civilian population where is your comparison from.
      3. PavelM 29 December 2019 15: 18 New
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        Do you want only you to believe? And who are you, what is behind your soul, besides anti-Stalinist, and therefore anti-Russian, State Department propaganda?
        Distort the facts? Distort under the covers, everyone will be better.
        1. RUSS 29 December 2019 15: 28 New
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          Quote: PavelM
          State Department propaganda?

          State Department again? laughing
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        1. Oyo Sarkazmi 29 December 2019 17: 08 New
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          Quote: Vita VKO
          Visual statistics of the general "talent" of Stalin.

          American democracy is even more obvious - it still does not recognize the civil rights of the indigenous population. And if the Warsaw ghetto lasted 1 year, the American ghettos exchanged a century and a half.
      5. Vita vko 29 December 2019 19: 40 New
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        The result of activity, or rather genocide
        Quote: solzh
        "Great" Joseph


        As a result, huge losses in the early years of the war

        Moderators should not delete, these are facts of history.
        I repeat again for the minus
        Victory in the Great Patriotic War is 100% Victory of the common people of our country, who until recently believed in the ideals of social justice.without noticing the betrayal and cynicism of the top of the CPSU, which fatted on the trust of the people.
        1. MstislavHrabr 30 December 2019 01: 13 New
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          Do not forget to attribute here the losses of Hungarians, Romanians and representatives of other nationalities who fought under the leadership of Hitler, who accuse us of totalitarianism today ... By the way, the losses of Bandera, forest brothers from the Baltic states and Vlasovites are recorded by historians as the losses of the Soviet people ...
        2. Valerikk 30 December 2019 18: 49 New
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          And in the second half of the war, why did losses drop sharply? The repressed are resurrected and taught to fight everyone?
          And then, repressed are illegally punished unreasonably. And 40 thousand are not repressed, but fired from the sun. Feel, at least a little, the difference? How many of them were arrested yourself?
    2. TermNachTer 29 December 2019 14: 51 New
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      Very brave psheks sitting behind the NATO fence. And what will happen if the fence falls apart?
      1. RUSS 29 December 2019 15: 58 New
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        Quote: TermNachTER
        Very brave psheks sitting behind the NATO fence. And what will happen if the fence falls apart?

        There will be nothing
        1. TermNachTer 29 December 2019 18: 19 New
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          There is nothing eternal in this world; sooner or later everything ends.
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        1. Avior 29 December 2019 18: 18 New
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          Very subtle situation.
          In a note that Potemkin demanded that the Polish ambassador be handed over to the Polish government, it was written that no Polish government exists, nor does Poland itself
    3. tatarin1972 30 December 2019 17: 53 New
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      Poland is a "prostitute" of Europe. Ready to lie under anyone, if it is to the detriment of Russia. It has always been so, and we will not when we will not be allies.
  5. Alexga 29 December 2019 13: 12 New
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    Psidach:
    We conveyed to the Russian ambassador our position that the position of the Russian authorities is in serious conflict with the country's international obligations, as well as in fact a mockery of millions of victims of the Stalinist regime, including primarily the people of Russia itself.

    This is an allusion to those who repent of all "sins" in relation to Poland Gorbachev Yeltsin and Putin about Katyn and so on.
    1. tihonmarine 29 December 2019 14: 05 New
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      Quote: AlexGa
      This is an allusion to those who repent of all "sins" in relation to Poland Gorbachev Yeltsin and Putin about Katyn and so on.

      These traitors to the Soviet people did more damage than Hitler and his minions.
  6. avia12005 29 December 2019 13: 12 New
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    I am ashamed of our Russia, which for some reason still has not put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet.
    1. RUSS 29 December 2019 13: 33 New
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      Quote: avia12005
      I am ashamed of our Russia, which for some reason still has not put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet.

      What can Russia do? Sanctions? We can’t even threaten them with a finger
    2. MCMLX 29 December 2019 13: 50 New
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      It's a shame that Joseph Vissarionovich gave the Poles half of Prussia, Silesia and other territories, which permanently increased Poland's GDP by 70%. This was done in advance, as a guarantee of the eternal friendship of the fraternal Slavic peoples.
      Gifts weren’t for good.
      1. avia12005 29 December 2019 19: 10 New
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        The blackest ingratitude always follows good from Russia.
    3. Vladimir_6 29 December 2019 15: 16 New
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      Quote: avia12005
      I am ashamed of our Russia, which for some reason still has not put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet.

      In response to the inaction of the leaders of the state, Mother Nature herself was forced to take drastic measures on April 10, 2010. On behalf of Russia, Fog and Birch "put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet." soldier
      1. albert 29 December 2019 15: 35 New
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        Mother Nature was forced to take drastic measures on April 10, 2010.

        Smolensk is a grave for the Poles. No wonder they say so.
  7. rocket757 29 December 2019 13: 12 New
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    Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!
    1. cniza 29 December 2019 13: 20 New
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      But periodically recall does not hurt. yes
      1. rocket757 29 December 2019 13: 27 New
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        But periodically recall does not hurt. yes

        That is yes. Ours were replete with its watered and other correctness, to the bottom. It will be difficult to admonish all sorts of different, and yet it is NECESSARY!
        1. cniza 29 December 2019 13: 29 New
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          And this applies not only to the Poles, I am already silent about the Baltic "lions".
          1. rocket757 29 December 2019 14: 48 New
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            And this applies not only to the Poles, I am already silent about the Baltic "lions".

            Yeah, there was such a "flock" gathered that from their "formidable" yapping already feigned shaking .... from laughter.
        2. silberwolf88 29 December 2019 13: 34 New
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          those who are so showing off ... they are not ours ... they are traitors to the interests of the HOMELAND
          1. rocket757 29 December 2019 14: 53 New
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            A difficult question .... those that are explicit are understandable with them. After all, there are many others that simply cannot work out.
    2. ccsr 29 December 2019 13: 24 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Remember the LEADER, already good.

      Still not to remember - he cut them 40% of the new territory at the expense of the Germans and our Bialystok following the Second World War, so they should lick his ass, and they curse him. In a word "dog krev" ...
      1. rocket757 29 December 2019 13: 29 New
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        And who hoped that there would be at least some grateful, from all .... in short from various ungrateful.
      2. cat Rusich 29 December 2019 19: 17 New
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        Poles cannot forget East Kresy - Lviv, Ternopol ... For the inhabitants of Poland, the loss of Western Ukraine is not only the loss of territory, but also the loss of farm laborers (residents of Western Ukraine are not of Polish origin)
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          Quote: cat Rusich
          For residents of Poland, the loss of Western Ukraine is not only the loss of territory, but also the loss of farm laborers

          I know very well how western Poland differs from eastern Poland, so that what they gained in the west of Stalin is superior to what they lost in western Ukraine, where there were no major cities besides Lviv. Well, what the Poles cannot forget, we spit on this - let them rub off and rejoice at the mercy of Stalin, who, instead of reminding them of the genocide of the Jews, made them a royal gift in the form of German lands.
    3. RUSS 29 December 2019 13: 40 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

      Europeans remember everything.

      European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.
      1. rocket757 29 December 2019 14: 59 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        Europeans remember everything

        Do not tell my horseshoes.
        Their memory is very selective, I remember here, and there wasn’t what they don’t want to remember.
        For them, our slogan "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten!" like a sickle on bells.
        Unfortunately, to us this infection, unconsciousness, selectivity, climbs by hook or by crook. It is very dangerous.
        1. cniza 29 December 2019 16: 02 New
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          They only remember what is beneficial to them ...
      2. ZAV69 29 December 2019 15: 27 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

        So it was they who once again gathered to us, the last time they came under the banner of adof allozych, they got a hump. Now it seems that they are waiting for them to be driven by Uncle Sem of the leader for a new campaign, but for now they are preparing mentally
      3. Oyo Sarkazmi 29 December 2019 17: 32 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23,

        That would be another month in memory of the victims of colonialism established. All money earned this month by Europeans - to Africa, India, China and Malaysia with Indonesia. The Dutch Suhart napalm watered until 1949, the French Vietnam - until the early 60s. And nothing good, white, fluffy.
  8. Sergst 29 December 2019 13: 13 New
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    "Actual documents are insinuations." Cognitive dissonance, however.
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  10. cniza 29 December 2019 13: 19 New
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    that the position of the Russian authorities comes into serious conflict with the country's international obligations


    What are these other obligations? You asked for it yourself, and now it will fly even worse.
  11. Azazelo 29 December 2019 13: 20 New
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    And with the accomplices of the Nazis, that’s the only way.
    1. RUSS 29 December 2019 13: 51 New
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      Quote: Azazelo
      And with the accomplices of the Nazis, that’s the only way.

      In fact, they were one of the first to fall victim to fascism and lost 6 million of their citizens to WWII.
      1. Volodin 29 December 2019 14: 18 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        In fact, they were one of the first to fall victim to fascism.

        And before that, they purely by chance signed the Hitler-Pilsudski Pact and then purely by chance chopped off a piece of Czechoslovakia. Victims ... "And we are for something ..."
        1. RUSS 29 December 2019 15: 31 New
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          And before that, they purely by chance signed the Hitler-Pilsudski Pact and then purely by chance chopped off a piece of Czechoslovakia. Victims ... "And we are for something ..."

          So in those days everything was torn to pieces: the USSR snatched from Finland and Poland, and completely tidied up the Baltic states.
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            So in those days everything was torn to pieces:

            Only Poland for some reason decided to do it first - along with Hitler
          2. cat Rusich 29 December 2019 19: 28 New
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            Until 1917, the Grand Duchy of Finland, the Kingdom of Poland (until 1915), and the Baltic states were part of the Russian Empire. They returned OWN, albeit in small pieces. Vyborg was presented to Finland by Alexander 1 in 1811, the USSR returned the "wedding present".
            1. RUSS 29 December 2019 21: 22 New
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              Until 1917, the Grand Duchy of Finland, the Kingdom of Poland (until 1915), and the Baltic states were part of the Russian Empire. They returned OWN, albeit in small pieces. Vyborg was presented to Finland by Alexander 1 in 1811, the USSR returned the "wedding present".

              In general, there is no logic whatsoever, let alone justification; you would just read a history textbook.
              1. Svarog51 29 December 2019 22: 34 New
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                Which textbook? There are many of them published over the past century. And everywhere it is written differently. Poland and Finland were part of the Russian Empire - were. It is a fact, there is no point in challenging. Retired - also a fact. After the collapse of the USSR, all republics became independent - a fact. What do they want now? Unclear. For each separately, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs works. Independence is not always an advantage. I’m always telling my wife about this - here’s your freedom of choice, and she’s me - you are a despot. How to understand her? So in politics, especially recently. And the strangest thing - Military Review was attacked on holidays. Conclusion - it means someone interferes with their unbiased judgments.
                1. Tersky 29 December 2019 22: 48 New
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                  I’m always telling my wife about this - here’s your freedom of choice, and she’s me - you are a despot. How to understand her?

                  winked Easy - provided freedom of choice, but did not give money for what was chosen. yes Hello, Sergey ! hi !
                  1. Svarog51 29 December 2019 23: 01 New
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                    Victor hi Do not offend, please, on the eve of the holiday, how can it be? Favorite and only! Naturally did not give money. repeat He brought where he wanted and paid for what is not needed in the house. Well woman, I can’t argue with her. crying
      2. Oyo Sarkazmi 29 December 2019 17: 34 New
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        More precisely, they miscalculated. They wanted to go with Hitler to the Russians ... However, they did. Polish soldiers after surrender en masse entered the Wehrmacht. But they didn’t ...
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  13. svp67 29 December 2019 13: 28 New
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    We conveyed to the Russian ambassador our position that the position of the Russian authorities is in serious conflict with the country's international obligations, as well as in fact a mockery of millions of victims of the Stalinist regime, including primarily the people of Russia itself.
    Stalin, you don’t like the pans ... Well then be HONEST until the end, return all the territories that you’ve attached to your country
  14. Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 13: 29 New
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    Shchverchinsky said that the head of the Russian state wants to “quarrel” Warsaw with the allies and “undermine” the Polish “point of view that <...> could attract the attention of the whole world”,
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    What sixes can have allies? What are you talking about?
    The attention of the whole world they need.
    So enclose your Pshechland with a high fence and fill it with concrete. The whole world will talk about you, breeders for centuries. Turning a finger at the temple ..... laughing
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    Well, great! They just periodically need to be allowed to be themselves ...
    And then a lot falls into place, and there is no need to explain anything. laughing
  16. Alien From 29 December 2019 13: 31 New
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    The Foreign Ministry of Panov needs to understand for a long time, well, they are not interesting for our field of vision, not that level .......
  17. Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 13: 33 New
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    They would be silent and not shine, because if Russia opens the archives on the Holocaust and the place of Poles in it, the fourth partition of Poland will be inevitable.
    Moreover, the main divider will be Israel and the United States’s Khabadniks, and this is not Russian to you, these will take everything to the last thread and% in 75 years. laughing laughing
  18. tarragon 29 December 2019 13: 41 New
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    Successfully They were tamed. Gentlemen began to play with the Poles history. If Poland missed our troops to help Czechoslovakia, there could have been no second world war.
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      Successfully they have been trained

      This is what? laughing
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    According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”.

    Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated. sad
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      1. HAM
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        No, he’s not offended, he wanted to go to Africa ..
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          No, he’s not offended, he wanted to go to Africa ..

          Zionists considered plans to create a Jewish state in Africa, and that was long before Hitler.
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            Zionists considered plans for a Jewish state in Africa

            In northern Africa, there are places where Jews have lived since ancient times, I was in Tunisia on the island of Djerba that year, there is a synagogue there and it is more than 2000 years old.
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            In Uganda.
            The Polish-Jewish delegation also traveled to Madascar
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        Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated.

        This was the bottom that a person had to break through, so that he, living in Israel, would declare “juggling” and “taking out of context” data on events related to the Holocaust. It turns out that even the Holocaust may be the position of "your son of a bitch"? And it turns out that if archival documents do not lie on the plane "Russia and Stalin personally are to blame for everything", is this a "perverted picture"? Well, well, you will go far ... Already gone ...

        Simple and on my own: Do not be ashamed?

        Why should I be ashamed? Because I know the facts, and does the sun-faced man juggle the facts by tearing them? Attracts one fact to another character, rearranges dates? He should be ashamed.

        Where do I excuse the Poles? Where do I blame Russia? Do not pull the owl on the globe.

        Regarding Dzhugashvili, he was so worthy of his friend Hitler. He refused to accept the Jews of Germany when Eichmann offered him. There was no place in the USSR. Jews were sent to gas chambers. However, this did not stop the USSR from granting transit visas to Japan and China for wealthy Jews for wealthy Jews. Money doesn't smell.

        We know our story well and we do not need either a fabulous or a Polish minister for this.
      3. albert 29 December 2019 15: 44 New
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        Simple and on my own: Do not be ashamed?

        Kolomoisky, Zelensky and Poroshenko are Jews. And they kiss kisses with the Nazis. You should not expect this from the Zionists.
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          Kolomoisky, Zelensky and Poroshenko are Jews. And they kiss kisses with the Nazis.

          Did you hold a candle or did Kissel and Nightingale tell you this?
    2. Squelcher 29 December 2019 14: 07 New
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      I never thought that you hate Russia so much that you are ready to spit on the graves of your relatives. Before the start of the Second World War, about 3.5 million Jews in Poland, the end of the Second World War, about 300 thousand remained in Poland.
      “The Poles collaborated with the Nazis, and I don’t know a single person who would be held accountable for this statement.” This is your ruler.
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        Before the start of the Second World War, about 3.5 million Jews in Poland, the end of the Second World War, about 300 thousand remained in Poland.

        Stalin refused to accept them on his territory, refusing Germany. Will we forget about this too?

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        “The Poles collaborated with the Nazis, and I don’t know a single person who would be held accountable for this statement.” This is your ruler.

        The USSR collaborated with the Nazis and together gave rich Jews transit visas. Then this shop closed and the Jews were taken to Auschwitz.
        1. Squelcher 29 December 2019 15: 21 New
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          So why didn’t Israel accept?

          Perhaps such a state did not exist? This is the "bloody" Stalin. The first country to recognize the Jewish state in full, de jure, was the Soviet Union on May 17 [92]. The first Israeli Foreign Minister Moshe Sharet in the first official Israeli telegram to the USSR expressed "deep appreciation and respect for the people of Israel for the firm stance taken by the Soviet delegation to the UN in support of the formation of an independent and sovereign Jewish state"
          The ingratitude is the dignity of a pig. I hope real Jews remember this.
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            So why didn’t Israel accept?

            Is it not because Palestine was under the British Mandate and they issued a White Paper restricting the entry of Jews?

            Quote: Squelcher
            Perhaps such a state did not exist? This is the "bloody" Stalin. The first country to recognize the Jewish state in full, de jure, was the Soviet Union on May 17 [92]. The first Israeli Foreign Minister Moshe Sharet in the first official Israeli telegram to the USSR expressed "deep appreciation and respect for the people of Israel for the firm stance taken by the Soviet delegation to the UN in support of the formation of an independent and sovereign Jewish state"

            Recognized a fait accompli? But why did he put sticks in wheels and prevent Jews from forming Israel?

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            The ingratitude is the dignity of a pig. I hope real Jews remember this.

            Remember the Jews and state anti-Semitism and the Case of doctors and visas of 150 pounds and the refusal to accept Jews. They also remember the Red Army that liberated Auschwitz. Everyone remembers.
            1. Squelcher 29 December 2019 15: 58 New
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              State anti-Semitism, cool, here's an example for you, very in the Stalinist USSR:
              Laureates of the Stalin Prize:
              Writers: Samuel Marshak (1942, 1946, 1949, 1951), Ilya Erenburg (1942, 1948, 1951), Emanuel Kazakevich (1948, 1950), Margarita Aliger (1943), Lev Kassil (1951), Vera Inber (1946) and a lot others; film director Julius Raizman (1941, 1943, 1946 - twice, 1950, 1952), singer Mark Reisen (1941, 1949, 1951), actor Mark Bernes (1951), composer Matvey Blanter (1946), violinist David Oistrakh (1943), cartoonist Boris Efimov (1950, 1951), sculptor Zaire Azgur (1946, 1948) and many others. The early 1950s saw the heyday of the activities of David Dragunsky, a former member of the JAC. Dragunsky opposed Zionism, identified it with anti-Semitism, often represented the USSR abroad, and actively criticized aliyah and the policies of the state of Israel. Many scientists who won the Stalin Prize are ophthalmologist Mikhail Averbakh (1943), mathematicians Israel Gelfand (1951, 1953), Felix Gantmakher (1948), Leonid Kantorovich (1949), Alexander Khinchin (1941), physicists Lev Artsimovich (1953), Lev Altshuler (1943, 1949, 1953), Yakov Zeldovich (1943, 1949, 1951, 1953), Abram Ioffe (1942), Lev Landau (1946, 1949, 1953), Julius Khariton (1949, 1951, 1953), aircraft designer Mikhail Gurevich ( 1941, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1952, 1953), historian Eugene Tarle (1942, 1943, 1946).
              Fascists of Jews forced to pour yellow stars on clothes, gave Russian prizes.
              Feel straight some inferiority complex?
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                Feel straight some inferiority complex?

                Tell us the details of the Doctors' Case and we will discuss Chariton.
                1. Squelcher 29 December 2019 23: 02 New
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                  So tell me how the doctors' case ended. How many "God's chosen" were shot or hanged?
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                    So tell me how the doctors' case ended. How many "God's chosen" were shot or hanged?

                    They didn’t shoot and hang everyone, why complain? Well, they shot the members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee. Well, not a million people. Why complain? Well, they went to jail for baking matzo. Well, they shot it. Why complain? Well, Jews were limited in admission to universities, and some were not taken at all. Well, they didn’t refer to Siberia. Why complain?
                    Let's continue the list of state anti-Semitism in the scoop?
                    1. Squelcher 30 December 2019 11: 31 New
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                      Do you know how you are disagreeable to others?
                      Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians and other nationalities fell into the millstones of the state repressive system and were subjected to repression. They led the shootings and shot both Jews and other nationalities.
                      You represent your nationality white and fluffy, Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew. That the hands of your representatives are also up to the elbow in the blood. But this is a story, accept it and stop dancing on the graves.
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                        Do you know how you are disagreeable to others?

                        And you?

                        Quote: Squelcher
                        Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians and other nationalities fell into the millstones of the state repressive system and were subjected to repression. They led the shootings and shot both Jews and other nationalities.

                        However, not many nations were repressed. Russians and Belarusians were not included in this list. Forgot?

                        Quote: Squelcher
                        You represent your nationality white and fluffy, Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew.

                        Take a photo of the document.

                        Quote: Squelcher
                        That the hands of your representatives are also up to the elbow in the blood. But this is a story, accept it and stop dancing on the graves.

                        I did not understand. You continue to assert that there was no state anti-Semitism policy in the scoop? Dzhugashvili did not refuse Germany in its request to accept Jews? Scoop for big money did not "save" the Jews?
                      2. Squelcher 30 December 2019 12: 30 New
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                        Eat don’t hang on.
                        JEWS in the main department of the Camps and settlements of the NKVD Chief - Berman Yakov Matveevich - Until 1936, the Head of the Main Directorate of Correctional Labor Camps - the GULAG - was commissioner III rank Berman Matvey, and the head of the Department of the NKVD of the USSR was another commissioner III rank Berman Boris. Apparently this was the Bermanov family contract. Deputy and Head of the Free Settlement Directorate of the NKVD of the USSR - Firin Samuil Yakovlevich. The head of the camps and settlements on the territory of the Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, at the same time the head of the White Sea political camp - Kogan Samuil Leonidovich. The head of the camps and settlements of the Northern Territory - Finkelshtein. The head of the camps and settlements of the Sverdlovsk Region - Pogrebinsky. The head of the camps and settlements of Western Siberia is Szabo. The head of the camps and settlements of Kazakhstan is Volin. The head of the elephant (Solovetsky camp for special purposes) - Serpukhov. The head of the Ural-Ural political prison for special purposes - Mezner. That is, the leadership of the "Gulag Archipelago" consisted only of Jews. The "honor" of the invention of these famous death camps belongs to Judea Nathan (Naftaly) Aronovich Frenkel, which the Western press never mentions out of "modesty", blaming the "camps" on the "scapegoat" of Joseph Stalin ...
                        JEWS - Heads of the NKVD Local Departments. Moscow Region - Redens Leningrad Region - Zakovsky Western Region - Blat Northern Territory - Ritkovsky Azov-Black Sea Territory - Friedberg Saratov Territory - Pillar Stalingrad Territory - Rappoport Orenburg Region - Paradise Gorky Territory - Abrampolsky North Caucasus Territory - Fayvilovich Sverdlovsk Region - Bashkir SSR - Bashkir Region - Zelikman Western Siberia - Gogol Eastern Siberia - Trotsky Central Asia - Krukovsky Belarus - Leplevsky At the time of the creation of the NKVD, his top leadership looked like this: People’s Commissar - G.G. Yagoda, Jew 1st deputy. People's Commissar - Ya.S. Agranov, Jew, 2nd Deputy. People's Commissar - G.E. Prokofiev, Russian Main Directorate of State Security (GUGB) - without a head Main Directorate of Workers 'and Peasants' Militia (GURKM) - L.N. Volsky, Jew Main Directorate of Border and Internal Security (SUE) - M.P. Frinovsky, Russian Main Directorate of Fire Protection (GUPO) - M.E. Khryapenkov, Russian GULAG - M.D.Berman, Jewish Civil Status Department (OASA) - M.M. Alievsky, Jewish Administrative and Administrative Department (ACU) - I.M. Ostrovsky, Jew Finance Department (FINO) - L.I. Berenzon, Jew Human Resources Department (OK) - Y. M.Veynshtok, Jew Secretariat of the NKVD of the USSR - P.P. Bulanov, Russian Special Commissioner of the NKVD of the USSR - V. D. Feldman, Jew In addition, the GUGB, i.e. State Security proper, included the following departments: Special Department (OO) - M.I. Gai, Jew Secret Political Department (OSS) - G.A. Molchanov, Russian Economic Department (ECO) - L.G. Mironov, Jew Foreign Department (INO) - A.Kh. Artuzov, hez Operational department (Opera) - K.V. Pauker, Jew Special department (Special department) - G.I. Bokiy, Ukrainian (Ukrainian Jew) Transport department (TO) - V.A .Kishkin, Russian Accounting and Statistics Division (USO) - Ya.M. Genkin, Jew, People's Commissar of the NKVD - Gershel Gershelevich Yehuda aka Heinrich Yagoda. 0 * First Deputy. beg. OGPU (who shot the writer N.S. Gumileva) Ya.S. Agranov (Sorenzon) * Head of the Main Directorate for Camps and Settlements - M.D. Berman. * His deputy is Rapoport S.G., then - Eichmans F.I. * Chief Accountant of the NKVD Berenzon * Head of the chemical laboratory (poisoning) Mairanovsky * Head of the White Sea camps - L.I. Kogan. * The head of the camps of the Leningrad region is Zakovsky. * Head of the White Sea-Baltic Camp (canal construction) - S.Ya. Firin. * Head of the Prison Directorate of the NKVD of the USSR - Kh. Apert. * The head of the camps in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR - S. B. Katznelson, then - Balitsky. * Head of the camps of the Northern regions - Finkelstein. * The head of the camps in the Sverdlovsk region is Pogrebinsky, then Shklyar. * The head of the camps in the Kazakh SSR is Pauline. * The head of the camps in Western Siberia is Shabo, then Gogel. * The head of the camps of the Azov-Black Sea region - Friedberg. * The head of the camps of the Saratov region - Pilar. * The head of the camps in the Stalingrad region - Paradise, * The head of the camps in the Gorky region - Abrampolsky, * The head of the camps in the North Caucasus - Fayvilovich, * The head of the camps in Bashkiria Zaligman, * The head of the camps in the Far Eastern region - Deribas, * The head of the camps in Belarus - Leplevsky THEM. (responsible for executions in Kurapaty). * The head of the special camp on the Solovetsky Islands is Serpukhov. * Head of the "Central Administration of Trade and General Nutrition of the NKVD - M.B. Schneerson. * The head of the "Engineering and Construction Department of the NKVD of the USSR" - A. Lurie * Head of the Government Security Department - K. Pauker * Special Commissioner at the Board of the NKVD -. Feldman V.D. * Head of the Secretariat of the NKVD. Daig Ya.A. * Head of the Special Department of the GUGB NKVD. - Leplevsky I.M. * Radzivilovsky A.P. Head of the 3rd Division 3 of the Office of the NKVD of the USSR. * Guy M.N. The beginning special department of the GU NKVD * Tkalun P.P. The commandant of the Kremlin * Berman B.D. - Head 3 of the Office of the NKVD. * Schwartzman Deputy Head of the investigative unit * Reichman L.I. * * * What scumbag it wrote “If we recognize that the purpose of everything that exists is the appearance of the SUPER MAN, then an essential part of this goal is the appearance of the SUPER PEOPLE. And so this people will be fertile ground on which the desired type of SUPER MAN can develop ”? You did not guess :) there is not Hitler :), but the GEORGE Aha; d ha-A; m (Heb. ;;;;;; ;;;;;, letters. “One of the people”; real name - Usher Isaevich (Usher Hirsch) Gintsb
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                        Eat don’t hang on.

                        Well? Served in the NKVD и Jews.

                        I repeat the questions:
                        Do you know how you are disagreeable to others?

                        However, not many nations were repressed. Russians and Belarusians were not included in this list. Forgot?

                        Take a photo of the document.

                        I did not understand. You continue to assert that there was no state anti-Semitism policy in the scoop? Dzhugashvili did not refuse Germany in its request to accept Jews? Scoop for big money did not "save" the Jews?
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                        Ask a question to the Jews who were at the helm as in the NKVD and at that moment why they refused to save their tribesmen by nationality, but chose to further protect, torture and exterminate other people, look for their descendants on their land, ask them.
                        Ask Georgians why?
                        By the way, they have several monuments of Dzhugashvili, and they are proud of it.
                        Ask why the executioners were cleaned up after they had done their dirty deed of exterminating class enemies without regard to nationality.
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                        1. Do you know why you are unpleasant to others?

                        2. However, not many nations were subjected to repression. Russians and Belarusians were not included in this list. Forgot?

                        3. Take a photo of the document.

                        4. I did not understand. You continue to assert that there was no state anti-Semitism policy in the scoop? Dzhugashvili did not refuse Germany in its request to accept Jews? Scoop for big money did not "save" the Jews?
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                        Ask a question to the Jews who were at the helm as in the NKVD and at that moment why they refused to save their tribesmen by nationality, but chose to further protect, torture and exterminate other people, look for their descendants on their land, ask them.
                        Ask Georgians why?
                        By the way, they have several monuments of Dzhugashvili, and they are proud of it.
                        Ask why the executioners were cleaned up after they had done their dirty deed of exterminating class enemies without regard to nationality.
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                        The client merged, and how many show-offs were. "Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew." wassat
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                        You have cheated your fellow tribesmen and are satisfied; you are a strange person and can you be “chosen by God”?
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                        Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew wassat
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    Peeple shawal

    People dismissed the fact that supposedly "Stalin did not tarnish himself with personal meetings with Hitler," but just what does it change? Stalin met with Ribbentrop, but the most important thing is that Stalin agreed with Hitler the secret protocol included in the famous pact, that’s what Putin was silent about.
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      Pole nicknamed "RUSS" threw his two pence.
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        Pole nicknamed "RUSS" threw his two pence.

        Have a good evening too
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      People dismissed the fact that supposedly "Stalin did not tarnish himself with personal meetings with Hitler," but just what does it change?

      Personally, I did not shake hands. Scriabin sent. This does not make Dzhugashvili innocent of friendship with the Nazis.

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      Stalin met with Ribbentrop, but the most important thing is that Stalin agreed with Hitler the secret protocol included in the famous pact, that’s what Putin was silent about.

      Did he just keep silent about this?
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  • Svarog51 29 December 2019 22: 39 New
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    Oleg hi Well, then you know that “people” is far from stupid, otherwise everything in the 91st would have ended. He can haul and spit not edible. Otherwise, death from poisoning.
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    The chosen ones trade as much as they can. In this case, apparently, the profits are not very, therefore they are silent. laughing
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    HAM 29 December 2019 13: 55 New
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    The Poles want to be holier than McCain, they jump out of their pants ... but, as usual, the initiative is punishable.
    Jump to the full opening of the archives ...
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    Poles need to blow up Stalin's Palace of Culture and Science in protest

    Do not clean the remaining pile of garbage (something like this)

    Write a sign: "This symbol of Stalin-Putin totalitarianism was destroyed in protest against the fact that the GDP called the pan-fascist pig."
    And drive to the ruins of American soldiers and Ukrainian migrant workers.
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      Poles need to blow up Stalin's Palace of Culture and Science in protest

      They wanted to demolish, but so far changed their minds
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    From the category - And why.
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    According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”.

    Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated. sad
    On December 18, in New York at a plenary meeting of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly, a resolution was introduced by the delegation of the Russian Federation “Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance” . In November, the text was approved by the Third Committee of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly.

    This year, the number of co-sponsors of the document reached 62. The overwhelming majority of states supported the resolution - 133. As in previous years, only the delegations of the USA and Ukraine opposed, and 52 countries abstained from voting.

    Clearly visible, the whole "civilized world" drowns for fascism / Nazism laughing
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      According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”.

      Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated. sad
      On December 18, in New York at a plenary meeting of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly, a resolution was introduced by the delegation of the Russian Federation “Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance” . In November, the text was approved by the Third Committee of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly.

      This year, the number of co-sponsors of the document reached 62. The overwhelming majority of states supported the resolution - 133. As in previous years, only the delegations of the USA and Ukraine opposed, and 52 countries abstained from voting.

      Clearly visible, the whole "civilized world" drowns for fascism / Nazism laughing

      “introduced by the delegation of the Russian Federation” - these are the keywords, CEP.
      1. Svarog51 29 December 2019 22: 47 New
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        So can you help against Nazism, but will not triumph that you were silent? Or is the margin not shining here?
        1. Professor 30 December 2019 09: 15 New
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          So can you help against Nazism, but will not triumph that you were silent? Or is the margin not shining here?

          What are you talking about? Personally, instead of the Israeli delegation, I would ALWAYS vote against any Russian initiative, as Russia does. reciprocity principle, CEP. And in this case, Israel supported the Russian resolution. In vain.
  • Victor March 47 29 December 2019 14: 05 New
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    Touched by the care of Pshek for the victims of the Stalinist regime. However, this is not an indulgence to the Poles in collusion with the Nazis and war, much more of their citizens on the side of Hitler. Centuries of confrontation with Russia and two months of struggle with us against the common enemy, Germany. Somehow it was not appropriate for them to be our teachers in this matter.
  • Kamikadze19 29 December 2019 14: 20 New
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    What are Russia's obligations to the m. Community? Always be bent or something?
  • arhPavel 29 December 2019 14: 20 New
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    position of the Russian authorities comes into serious conflict with the country's international obligations


    It’s so interesting, let the facts cite words and usual chatter.
    Again they are trying to bring the problem to the “just tryndet” area
  • 1536 29 December 2019 14: 34 New
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    Discuss the actions of the so-called Poles, put them with you on the same level. One should not notice these “photos to the material” and what they say.
    The answer must be a solid policy, the publication of archival documents exposing the role of the Polish state on the eve of the Second World War, as well as the role of the NDP in organizing subversive activities from 1945 to 1989 against the USSR and socialism as a whole. This will be useful for our business, which should know that they can simply deceive it, it has made "friendship" with the Poles on the basis of "trust or mutually beneficial cooperation." This cannot be a priori today.
  • Victorio 29 December 2019 14: 48 New
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    I think that it certainly will not be worse if the position of the Russian Federation will be tough and further, especially on the eve of the anniversary
  • Jarserge 29 December 2019 14: 58 New
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    The fantasies of the Poles contradict the historical truth, confirmed by archival documents, but they are in line with the US propaganda course at the present stage.
  • demo 29 December 2019 15: 10 New
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    The Russian ambassador was expressed a position regarding the inadmissibility of historical insinuations, which representatives of the top Russian leadership have repeatedly allowed themselves in recent days.
    Insinuations are slanderous fabrications.
    The President of the Russian Federation relies in his statements on numerous archival documents of our country, many times duplicated by similar documents of other countries.
    Where are the insinuations, especially historical ones?
    The Polish ambition did not bring to good.
    There were three sections of Poland.
    Extreme may happen.
  • Looking for 29 December 2019 15: 12 New
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    lost 6 million of their citizens in WWII.

    to begin with, take away the number of Polish Jews killed. and immediately the remaining figure will cease to amaze with its scale
    1. RUSS 29 December 2019 15: 45 New
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      to begin with, take away the number of Polish Jews killed. and immediately the remaining figure will cease to amaze with its scale

      Are you a Nazi? Jews in Poland were Polish citizensand yes they destroyed about 3 million, if you talk about it
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        Are you a Nazi?

        And you, after your contemptuous name for the Russians quilted jackets? This term is often repeated by the Nazis from Ukraine ... repeat
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          names of Russians

          I recently called one padded coat here, so he confirmed this and added that he is a scoop and is proud of everything. So that is so.
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            So that is so.

            That is, you do not deny that you are a Nazi?
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              So that is so.

              That is, you do not deny that you are a Nazi?

              The definition of a padded jacket does not apply to nationality
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                No, of course, you are not a Nazi, you are a racist. Looks like you are from God's chosen ..
  • faterdom 29 December 2019 15: 12 New
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    Let them get used to it. There will be no more “repentance” to them. But ask strictly - there is something. We understand that it’s unpleasant - but we can’t offer another medicine, we must treat all patients. And money, too, the same Pasu, IOC, WADA, SHO and other engaged party.
  • zenion 29 December 2019 15: 13 New
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    Poles attacked Israel when Israel published documents on the involvement of Poles in the murders of Jews in Poland. But in Israel they quickly shut up the Poles by reading their very documents, reports from the Polish police to the German ruler.
  • PavelM 29 December 2019 15: 29 New
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    It would be nice if the "Stalinist narrative" penetrated our leadership ..

    Absolutely! Putin is directly responsible for the anti-Russian rhetoric of the West. The truth is that when they spit on Stalin, and Putin does not limit himself in this, they automatically spit on Russian History, then what are Putin’s complaints about Poland or the European Union?
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    Putin is directly responsible for the anti-Russian rhetoric of the West. The truth is that when "their" spit in Stalin, and Putin does not limit himself in this, they automatically spit in the History of Russia, then what claims does Putin have to Poland or the European Union?
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      Putin is directly responsible for the anti-Russian rhetoric of the West. The truth is that when "their" spit in Stalin, and Putin does not limit himself in this, they automatically spit in the History of Russia, then what claims does Putin have to Poland or the European Union?

      That under Putin, that before him, the rhetoric of the West has always been anti-Russian. Why is this your post here?
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    theirs

    Theirs, there is no word "theirs".
  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 15: 50 New
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    Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

    Europeans remember everything.

    European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

    Quote: RUSS
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    Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

    Europeans remember everything.

    European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

    I remember, I don’t remember laughing
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      I remember, I don’t remember

      Yes, like every politician
      selective memory.
  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 15: 58 New
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    Yes, finally show me the Archives! What are you threatening! Or is the ugly page of Russia going up too?

    The special foul behavior of the "allies" in the anti-Hitler coalition will come out, as if something would not work for those offended by the head laughing
  • Kibl 29 December 2019 16: 46 New
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    Poland country is a parasite and generally a slut shoulder!
  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 16: 55 New
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    During his visit to Israel, Duda showed a more moderate stance, recognizing that “the historical truth is not always pleasant, including the Polish people”, and that “like every nation, we also had noble people, but there were those who deserve condemnation and contempt. " About those Poles who participated in the persecution and extermination of Jews, Duda said that they "expelled themselves from the Polish people." Everyone can judge this statement in accordance with its opinion, but taking into account the data at its disposal laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 16: 59 New
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    I remember, I don’t remember

    Yes, like every politician
    selective memory.

    Memory and documents - such a thing - it is ONE laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 17: 04 New
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    In 1988, Grabowski, who has relatives in Israel, emigrated from Poland to Canada. “I thought communism would never fall, but I was mistaken,” he explains. Today, he is a professor of history at the University of Ottawa, specializing in studies of the deaths of Polish Jews and Polish-Israeli relations. In addition to his “Hunt for the Jews,” other books were published telling about the crimes committed by the Poles against the Jews. “Neighbors” by Jan-Tomasz Gross was published in 2000 and shocked Poland. And three years later, Anna Viscount published the book “We Are Deadly”, which was published by the Carmel Publishing House in Hebrew at the end of 2017: there are interviews with witnesses to the murders, the murderers themselves, and those who escaped from the pogrom described by Gross. , diary of Stanislav Zheminsky, a teacher from the city of Lukov. He documented the horrors of war until he died in Majdanek in 1943. This diary was later found in a pile of camp garbage and later transferred to the Institute of Jewish History in Warsaw. 300 pages of Grabowski’s book are filled with ruthless testimonies in which Polish peasants appear heartless monsters ready to kill a neighbor for a bottle of vodka without blinking an eye. The post-war testimonies of a young girl, Hai Rosenblatt, are given there: in the areas adjacent to the ghetto, hunting for Jews became so common that even dogs got used to the sounds of shooting and stopped responding to them by barking. This diary is hard to read. It includes recollections of how Polish farmers surrounded one of the villages and started the “Jewish hunt” - as they called it. They wanted to receive a reward appointed by the Germans: vodka, sugar, potatoes, butter, and also to take the personal belongings of the victims. “They led the Jews out of their homes, sought out in the fields and gardens. Before the shots had fallen silent, they were in a hurry to inspect their property. The bodies of the Jews have not yet cooled down, as they already wrote statements on their homes, shops, workshops and land. They volunteered to participate in this hunt, without the slightest coercion, ”Zheminsky testified.

    “Orgies of killings were done not only by Germans and their assistants - Ukrainians and Lithuanians,” he wrote. - “It was clear that our dear policemen [Poles] will take part in the massacre, because it is known that they are animals. But everything turned out to be even more tragic - it turned out that ordinary Poles, volunteers, were at one with them. ” These are not Russians who stick a testicle to a German so that he would shoot and not torment.



  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 17: 36 New
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    Warsaw is very comfortable in the modern conditions of anti-Russian hysteria. At every opportunity, the Polish authorities shout loudly: "We were the first victims of totalitarianism back in 1939." Many willingly believe this. Because the true history of those fateful events is not known. And we can remind. For example, how throughout the 1930s, Polish politicians dreamed together with Hitler to crush "Bolshevism" (as they called the USSR). Under the Polish General Staff, the Prometheus organization operated with the goal of dismembering Russia on a national basis. The agents were then carefully transferred to the German Abwehr. laughing So, about July 1946. In Poland - a disgusting Jewish pogrom. And you know, under what motto? "Finish the work of Adolf Hitler." A crowd of Poles (about 2000 people, joined by the forces of the people's militia), shouting (attention!): “Death to the Jews!”, “Death to the murderers of our children!”, Cracked the doors and killed people who were hiding with logs, stones and bars. Among 47 killed - children and pregnant women. Wounded - more than 50. To the honor of the Polish people, there were those who tried to prevent the brutal crowd.
    Protocol for interrogating witness Pshezdziecki: “I saw firsthand how a policeman beat a Jewess in the head with a gun, which was subsequently taken to a hospital in serious condition (I don’t know the name of that policeman). Then an army unit arrived. The military and the police took the Jews out of the block, giving "they killed the crowd, which they brutally killed with sticks and stones. Police officers and the military also killed."
  • Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2019 17: 38 New
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    Soviet agitprop made a lot of mistakes in the postwar period. We have grown generations with an incomplete idea of ​​what actually happened during the Second World War. And those who knew did not want to talk about this, so as not to destroy the fraternity of the builders of communism. As a result, now the Poles do not really know their own past. It’s easier for them to be offended by Putin. Although he still hasn’t told much about them laughing laughing
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    President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia (FEOR) Rabbi Alexander Boroda expressed gratitude to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called Polish diplomat Józef Lipsky, who supported the Jewish genocide in Poland, the 1930s, as the “bastard and anti-Semitic pig” laughing
  • Wolf 29 December 2019 18: 12 New
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    The most head is addressed erroneously !!! POLISH POLICY CATHOLIC DOLL !!! B. In my opinion, the Vatican should be addressed to the ANTISEMITISIS, the Polacs are just contractors!
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      This is about how to condemn Luzhichka Serba and Prus to Hitler’s policy! wink
  • Ros 56 29 December 2019 18: 34 New
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    Correct, is it like I didn’t drop in a nickel? Well, diplomat, you have to endure. Stalin, of course, would have put these ghouls in their place, they would have stuttered for about a hundred years. But GDP plays long, although the method of Joseph Vissarionych is more suitable for me.
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    And how he will explain the Pilsudski narrative.
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    Poland country is a parasite and generally a slut shoulder!

    What in the colors was emphasized by a TV show participant, one Yakub Koreyba, who said that if we (the Russians) pay more, then they will become pro-Russian.