“This is a Stalinist narrative”: The Polish Foreign Ministry talked about a conversation with the Russian ambassador

The Polish Foreign Ministry commented on the call of the Russian ambassador Sergey Andreev in connection with the well-known statements of Vladimir Putin about the cooperation of the Polish authorities with Hitler in the 30s of the XX century. Recall that the President of Russia at several meetings presented data from archival documents, which, in particular, reported on the approval by the Polish ambassador to the Third Reich, Joseph Lipsky, of the expulsion of Jews from Europe to Africa.

Recall that on the eve of the Russian ambassador to Poland, after visiting the Polish Foreign Ministry, he noted the following:

The conversation was tough, but at the same time quite correct.

Sergey Andreev also said that Russia would not allow anyone to read notations.

The Polish media published comments on this issue by Marcin Psidach (pictured here). This is the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, heading the so-called Eastern Department.

Psidach in an interview with the Polish Press Agency:

The Russian ambassador expressed his position on the inadmissibility historical insinuations that representatives of the top Russian leadership have repeatedly allowed themselves in recent days. The Stalinist narrative deliberately penetrates into the Russian historical imagination.

According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider the data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”. Accordingly, it is difficult to imagine what, in this case, the data and materials of the modern Polish authorities do not belong to “historical insinuations”.

Psidach:

We conveyed to the Russian ambassador our position that the position of the Russian authorities is in serious conflict with the country's international obligations, as well as in fact a mockery of millions of victims of the Stalinist regime, including primarily the people of Russia itself.

Comments

[cniza]

And not only about Poland.

[Shurik70]

Such poles, cool poles ...
And how a Pole needs to scare an Englishman, this is how a "Polish guy from Russia" appears

Quarrel on the train

The British made a remark to the Pole for alcohol, but faced with charges of racism

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[cost]

The Polish Foreign Ministry commented on the call of the Russian ambassador Sergey Andreev in connection with the well-known statements of Vladimir Putin about the cooperation of the Polish authorities with Hitler in the 30s of the XX century. Recall that the President of Russia at several meetings presented data from archival documents, which, in particular, reported on the approval by the Polish ambassador to the Third Reich, Joseph Lipsky, of the expulsion of Jews from Europe to Africa.

It is characteristic that the Polish Foreign Ministry did not threaten Ambassador of the Russian Federation Sergey Andreev with expulsion from Poland and did not even dare to hand over a "Note of Protest"

Igor Sergeev:“The fact that Poland exists today, and the Polish people live on their land, is“ a direct consequence of our victory. ”“ And since this fact is difficult to deny, they are trying to conceal it, distort it, cover it up with arguments that the Soviet Union is responsible for the beginning World War II ". We cannot put up with this in any case. This is our history. This is our duty to our ancestors. This, after all, is the most important component of our national identity." And the words of our president are a kind of inoculation of the Polish society from ideas of "neo-Nazism" and rewriting history "

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[210ox]

It would be nice if our leadership was imbued with the "Stalinist narrative".

[Major Yurik]

Quote: 210ox

It would be nice if our leadership was imbued with the "Stalinist narrative".

I don’t understand why Russia should prove something to someone, justify for the past, all the more so before the Poles where there are nowhere to put samples! There are real archives, testimonies of witnesses, film and so on. All this broadcast on all media, the Internet and all TV in all languages! Originals are really an impenetrable thing, and the main thing is not to pay attention to the squeals of any Poland, Baltic states, Bandera and other allies of Hitler! Ugh on their reaction many times!

[Tuk77]

Are you sure it will be useful if you open real archives?
At one time, we agreed that the secret protocol to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact did exist, although it had been categorically denied before.
And how much has this already caused controversy?
But this is a drop in the sea of ​​archives. Most of which, by the way, for reasons unknown to us, are still closed.

[RUSS]

Quote: Tuk77

But this is a drop in the sea of ​​archives. Most of which, by the way, for reasons unknown to us, are still closed.

And for some archives, Putin has increased the privacy term.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Tuk77

that the secret protocol to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact really existed

But the Poles - no secrecy. The Pilsudski-Hitler Pact had a clause on the free transit of German troops to the eastern border. But on the eastern border, at that time, there was nothing but the USSR. The Poles were Hitler’s ideological allies in both the Russian and Jewish issues. And somehow they did not notice the point of Hitler's doctrine on the expulsion of inferior Poles, Serbs, Ukrainians - to the Urals. The Poles considered themselves full! And what the small assistant to Bandera (Hitler, in modern Ukrainian historiography) considered, they did not care.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Tuk77

Most of which, by the way, for reasons unknown to us, are still closed.

there is such a sign of secrecy - shoot yourself before reading (OGV - keep forever) ...

[cost]

PSih2097 (Alexander Latysh): there is such a sign of secrecy - shoot yourself before reading (OGV - keep forever) ..

The neck of secrecy - to keep forever never existed. You mixed two completely different concepts.
Class of secrecy - an indicator of the degree of secrecy of activities, information, documents, publications, special areas and works. The degree of secrecy is determined by the vultures:
1) "of particular importance",
2) "top secret",
3) "secret"
4) "for official use
the first three degrees of the vulture in accordance with Art. 8 of the RF Law "On State Secrets" refer to information constituting a state secret

[PSih2097]

Quote: Rich

The neck of secrecy - to keep forever never existed. You mixed two completely different concepts.

Believe me, there is, only if you even touched it with a edge, you have been restricted to travel abroad for life ...

[MstislavHrabr]

I am sure of the other. Our people alone, without snot (I mean assistants from other countries) will deal with the Stalinist legacy and the Stalinist past ... It would be nice to start this process with the abolition of the Bologna education system, because after all, in order to obtain a degree, a historian needs to have more publications in to the Western press ... And the West is ready to print only Russophobic opuses ... Thus, the Bologna system automatically eliminates and cuts off patriots. And soon our own universities will produce some Russophobes writing for the sake of the Western masters ...

[Procyon lotor]

And where does the Bologna system?

[ASASHOKA]

Our country is committed to following the agreements and international law!
Hence, neither the disclosure and display of certain documents of history before time. The time is coming for the generation that has grown up in the "distorting mirror" countries, we have a "graft", for example, in the form of publishing such documents of truth. It will not be clear, another "vaccination" will appear. Everything needs to be served in time, and that's how it was done.
This will also affect our young generation if they are not told about such documents in the relevant educational institutions of the country. Judging by the education program, so far everything is on the level. As you know, who teaches history, he knows it. In general, our people know this story, remember everything and honor their national heroes.

[major147]

Quote: Major Yurik

Quote: 210ox

It would be nice if our leadership was imbued with the "Stalinist narrative".

I don’t understand why Russia should prove something to someone, justify for the past, all the more so before the Poles where there are nowhere to put samples! There are real archives, testimonies of witnesses, film and so on. All this broadcast on all media, the Internet and all TV in all languages! Originals are really an impenetrable thing, and the main thing is not to pay attention to the squeals of any Poland, Baltic states, Bandera and other allies of Hitler! Ugh on their reaction many times!

So they do not want to see and accept it. It is more convenient and calmer for them to think in stereotypes habitual in the West.

[tracer]

I think it was. Otherwise, this would not have happened. We should not confuse the weakness of the leadership and the cunning maneuvers aimed at avoiding a military conflict with the NATO limitrophes and other rabble. But getting into conflicts is the goal of our "partners".

[vladcub]

In general, the Poles should not blame Stalin: after the war, how much money was invested in Poland. And the growth of Poland at the expense of Prussia? Again, "Stalin is to blame"

[major147]

Quote: vladcub

In general, the Poles should not blame Stalin: after the war, how much money was invested in Poland. And the growth of Poland at the expense of Prussia? Again, "Stalin is to blame"

So for that they do not like it, not themselves, but thanks to Stalin. I’m ashamed of my past and want to forget it ourselves and erase others in the memory.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Thrifty

The case when Stalin did not decide in vain, together with the British, to share this Euro-misunderstanding, called Poland! You need to rename a couple of outposts on the border with Polyakhia into Stalin outposts, put monuments there so that for tens of kilometers Poles saw them!

There was no talk of this. Stalin initially wanted Poland, Churchill initially opposed this, and Roosevelt had to spit on Britons' European ambitions. As a result - they made a bargain - Stalin did not intervene in Greece on the side of the Communists, for this the whole of Poland left the Union.

[Ryaruav]

Yes, God forbid, they will deny any historical documents for the sake of the United States.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Ryaruav

Yes, God forbid, they will deny any historical documents for the sake of the United States.

Winston Churchill, "On the meanness of the Poles" (1938)

The heroic character traits of the Polish people should not force us to turn a blind eye to his recklessness and ingratitude, which for several centuries caused him immeasurable suffering.
- In 1919, it was a country that the Allied victory turned into an independent republic, after many generations of division and slavery making it one of the main European powers.

Now, in 1938, due to such an insignificant question as Teshin, the Poles broke up with all their friends in France, in England and in the USA, friends who returned their common national life and whose help they should soon need so much.

We saw how now, while a reflection of the power of Germany fell on them, they hastened to seize their share in the plunder and ruin of Czechoslovakia. At the time of the crisis, all doors were closed for the English and French ambassadors. They were not even admitted to the Polish Foreign Minister.

It should be considered as a mystery and tragedy of European history the fact that this people is capable of any heroism, some representatives of which are talented, valiant and charming, constantly demonstrating such shortcomings in almost all aspects of their state life. Glory in times of rebellion and grief; infamy and shame during periods of triumph. The bravest of the brave too often have been led by the most infamous of the vile!

And yet there have always been two Poland:
one fought for the truth
and the other creeped into meanness.

"Churchill said that Poland is the hyena of Europe. Why?
An obscure country that wants to grab something for free. What the West is half-finished, Poland picks up. There are no countries in the world that adore Poland.
In fact, the essence of the vileness of the Polish nation lies not only in gene rottenness, but also in the historically developed political situation. Let me remind you that earlier Poland (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth / Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) was a large European power, in its best times also owning Lithuania, Belarus, Latvia, Ukraine. Moreover, at some historical moments she accepted attempts to annex Russia (Russia) and the Holy Roman Empire (Germany).
Figuratively speaking, to return from heaven to earth and see what Poland is today, it becomes clear that the current state of affairs is clearly gnawing on Polish self-consciousness. Frankly speaking, Poland today is in the political sense an absolute zero. And not the last role in the incineration of Polish greatness was played by the Russian Empire.
The only reason Poland has not gone into oblivion for the minds of the Big Countries at all is that, due to its geopolitical position, Poland is one of the main “polyps” of Russia. Anyone who "owns" Poland can "crush" Russia. The Poles are stupid, they have always used and are using for their own purposes, but they don’t see anything of this, they are blinded by anger and hatred of Russia. That's all.
For all these reasons, Poland today is a rotten, vile, vile nation. Almost the main reason for the existence of the Poles consider to annoy Russia. "Let me get worse, but I will make Russia worse." Moreover, Poland cannot even go beyond its base barbaric essence - "if he sees a Russian on the street, he will certainly spit in his direction." In terms of national character, Poles are worse than even Jews. Not only are they mean, they are also stupid.
At the last European Football Championship, Polish nationalists attacked Russian fans. And those Russians who rebuffed were condemned by stupid Polish justice, which itself lives in its miserable medieval Russophobian little world.
Poland is a kind of angry dog, driven out of the house, which is already weak and no one needs, but still barks and bothers.

[solzh]

Russian ambassador expressed position on the inadmissibility of historical insinuations

Still, the Polish Foreign Ministry and their power-abominable devils. History is being rewritten insolently, and when they are pointed out to their lies, they immediately recall the Goebel propaganda and pour dirt on our Great Victory, on our Great People and on our Great Joseph Vissarionovich.

[Vita vko]

Quote: solzh

Great Joseph Vissarionovich

Please refer to the statistics of losses, 7 million fascists and 26 million Soviet citizens. Moreover, at the beginning of the war, for one killed fascist, our country paid with the lives of dozens of its citizens. Such huge losses in no way correlate with the "greatness" of the leadership. The peoples of the USSR won at the expense of mass heroism, which they compensated for the massive repressions and incompetence of the Stalinist elite. Victory in the Great Patriotic War is a 100% Victory of the people of our country, who until recently, 1991, believed in what they said from the tribunes of the CPSU.

[tatarin1972]

You do not confuse the soft with the warm, the irretrievable military losses of the USSR amount to 11 people, of which military personnel died - 444 people (100 soldiers died in battles, hospitals and other incidents, and 8 people did not return from captivity ) The rest is the loss of civilian population of the USSR. Another liberal nonsense, think that compares. Comparing the total losses of the USSR and the Wehrmacht on the eastern front.

[Looking for]

You are very cunning. Like the current Russophobes. You operate with numbers and categories. You want to compare - compare the losses of the same military categories with the military. The civilian population with the civilian population. You don’t have to blame Stalin for the fact that Hitler’s troops destroyed the Soviet civilian population where is your comparison from.

[PavelM]

Do you want only you to believe? And who are you, what is behind your soul, besides anti-Stalinist, and therefore anti-Russian, State Department propaganda?
Distort the facts? Distort under the covers, everyone will be better.

[RUSS]

Quote: PavelM

State Department propaganda?

State Department again?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Vita VKO

Visual statistics of Stalin's "talent"

American democracy is even more obvious - it still does not recognize the civil rights of the indigenous population. And if the Warsaw ghetto lasted 1 year, the American ghettos exchanged a century and a half.

[Vita vko]

The result of activity, or rather genocide

Quote: solzh

"Great" Joseph

As a result, huge losses in the early years of the war

Moderators should not delete, these are facts of history.
I repeat again for the minus
Victory in the Great Patriotic War is 100% Victory of the common people of our country, who until recently believed in the ideals of social justice.without noticing the betrayal and cynicism of the top of the CPSU, which fatted on the trust of the people.

[MstislavHrabr]

Do not forget to attribute here the losses of Hungarians, Romanians and representatives of other nationalities who fought under the leadership of Hitler, who accuse us of totalitarianism today ... By the way, the losses of Bandera, forest brothers from the Baltic states and Vlasovites are recorded by historians as the losses of the Soviet people ...

[Valerikk]

And in the second half of the war, why did losses drop sharply? The repressed are resurrected and taught to fight everyone?
And then, repressed are illegally punished unreasonably. And 40 thousand are not repressed, but fired from the sun. Feel, at least a little, the difference? How many of them were arrested yourself?

[TermNachTer]

Very brave psheks sitting behind the NATO fence. And what will happen if the fence falls apart?

[RUSS]

Quote: TermNachTER

Very brave psheks sitting behind the NATO fence. And what will happen if the fence falls apart?

There will be nothing

[TermNachTer]

There is nothing eternal in this world; sooner or later everything ends.

[Avior]

Very subtle situation.
In a note that Potemkin demanded that the Polish ambassador be handed over to the Polish government, it was written that no Polish government exists, nor does Poland itself

[tatarin1972]

Poland is the "prostitute" of Europe. Ready to lie under anyone if it goes to the detriment of Russia. It has always been like this and we will never be allies.

[Alexga]

Psidach:
We conveyed to the Russian ambassador our position that the position of the Russian authorities is in serious conflict with the country's international obligations, as well as in fact a mockery of millions of victims of the Stalinist regime, including primarily the people of Russia itself.

This is an allusion to Gorbachev Yeltsin and Putin who repent of all their "sins" towards Poland about Katyn and so on.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: AlexGa

This is an allusion to Gorbachev Yeltsin and Putin who repent of all their "sins" towards Poland about Katyn and so on.

These traitors to the Soviet people did more damage than Hitler and his minions.

[avia12005]

I am ashamed of our Russia, which for some reason still has not put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet.

[RUSS]

Quote: avia12005

I am ashamed of our Russia, which for some reason still has not put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet.

What can Russia do? Sanctions? We can’t even threaten them with a finger

[MCMLX]

It's a shame that Joseph Vissarionovich gave the Poles half of Prussia, Silesia and other territories, which permanently increased Poland's GDP by 70%. This was done in advance, as a guarantee of the eternal friendship of the fraternal Slavic peoples.
Gifts weren’t for good.

[avia12005]

The blackest ingratitude always follows good from Russia.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: avia12005

I am ashamed of our Russia, which for some reason still has not put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who adore wiping Russian feet.

In response to the inaction of the leaders of the state, Mother Nature herself was forced on April 10, 2010 to take drastic measures. On behalf of Russia, Tuman and Bereza "put in place the arrogant and arrogant Polish presidents and other ministers who love to wipe their feet on Russians."

[albert]

Quote: Vladimir_6

Mother Nature was forced to take drastic measures on April 10, 2010.

Smolensk is a grave for the Poles. No wonder they say so.

[rocket757]

Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

[cniza]

But periodically recall does not hurt.

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

But periodically recall does not hurt.

That is yes. Ours were replete with its watered and other correctness, to the bottom. It will be difficult to admonish all sorts of different, and yet it is NECESSARY!

[cniza]

And this applies not only to the Poles, I am already silent about the Baltic "lions".

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

And this applies not only to the Poles, I am already silent about the Baltic "lions".

Yes, there is such a "flock" gathered that from their "formidable" yapping as much as the veins shake .... from laughter.

[silverwolf88]

those who are so showing off ... they are not ours ... they are traitors to the interests of the HOMELAND

[rocket757]

A difficult question .... those that are explicit are understandable with them. After all, there are many others that simply cannot work out.

[ccsr]

Quote: rocket757

Remember the LEADER, already good.

Still not to remember - he slaughtered them 40% of the new territory at the expense of the Germans and our Bialystok as a result of the Second World War, so they should lick his ass, and they curse him. In one word "psya krev" ...

[rocket757]

And who hoped that there would be at least some grateful, from all .... in short from various ungrateful.

[cat Rusich]

Poles cannot forget East Kresy - Lviv, Ternopol ... For the inhabitants of Poland, the loss of Western Ukraine is not only the loss of territory, but also the loss of farm laborers (residents of Western Ukraine are not of Polish origin)

[ccsr]

Quote: cat Rusich

For residents of Poland, the loss of Western Ukraine is not only the loss of territory, but also the loss of farm laborers

I know very well how western Poland differs from eastern Poland, so that what they gained in the west of Stalin is superior to what they lost in western Ukraine, where there were no major cities besides Lviv. Well, what the Poles cannot forget, we spit on this - let them rub off and rejoice at the mercy of Stalin, who, instead of reminding them of the genocide of the Jews, made them a royal gift in the form of German lands.

[RUSS]

Quote: rocket757

Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

Europeans remember everything.

European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

[rocket757]

Quote: RUSS

Europeans remember everything

Do not tell my horseshoes.
Their memory is very selective, I remember here, and there wasn’t what they don’t want to remember.
For them our slogan is "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten!" like a sickle on bells.
Unfortunately, to us this infection, unconsciousness, selectivity, climbs by hook or by crook. It is very dangerous.

[cniza]

They only remember what is beneficial to them ...

[ZAV69]

Quote: RUSS

European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

So it was they who once again gathered to us, the last time they came under the banner of adof allozych, they got a hump. Now it seems that they are waiting for them to be driven by Uncle Sem of the leader for a new campaign, but for now they are preparing mentally

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: RUSS

European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23,

That would be another month in memory of the victims of colonialism established. All money earned this month by Europeans - to Africa, India, China and Malaysia with Indonesia. The Dutch Suhart napalm watered until 1949, the French Vietnam - until the early 60s. And nothing good, white, fluffy.

[Sergst]

"The actual documents are innuendo." Cognitive dissonance, however.

[cniza]

that the position of the Russian authorities comes into serious conflict with the country's international obligations

What are these other obligations? You asked for it yourself, and now it will fly even worse.

[Azazelo]

And with the accomplices of the Nazis, that’s the only way.

[RUSS]

Quote: Azazelo

And with the accomplices of the Nazis, that’s the only way.

In fact, they were one of the first to fall victim to fascism and lost 6 million of their citizens to WWII.

[Volodin]

Quote: RUSS

In fact, they were one of the first to fall victim to fascism.

And before that, they purely accidentally signed the Hitler-Pilsudski pact and then, purely by accident, chopped off a piece of Czechoslovakia. Victims ... "And it’s for us ..."

[RUSS]

Quote: Volodin

And before that, they purely accidentally signed the Hitler-Pilsudski pact and then, purely by accident, chopped off a piece of Czechoslovakia. Victims ... "And it’s for us ..."

So in those days everything was torn to pieces: the USSR snatched from Finland and Poland, and completely tidied up the Baltic states.

[Volodin]

Quote: RUSS

So in those days everything was torn to pieces:

Only Poland for some reason decided to do it first - along with Hitler

[cat Rusich]

Until 1917 the Grand Duchy of Finland, the Kingdom of Poland (until 1915), the Baltic states were part of the Russian Empire. They returned OWN, albeit in small pieces. Vyborg was donated to Finland by Alexander 1 in 1811, the USSR returned back the "wedding gift".

[RUSS]

Quote: cat Rusich

Until 1917 the Grand Duchy of Finland, the Kingdom of Poland (until 1915), the Baltic states were part of the Russian Empire. They returned OWN, albeit in small pieces. Vyborg was donated to Finland by Alexander 1 in 1811, the USSR returned back the "wedding gift".

In general, there is no logic whatsoever, let alone justification; you would just read a history textbook.

[Svarog51]

Which textbook? There are many of them published over the past century. And everywhere it is written differently. Poland and Finland were part of the Russian Empire - were. It is a fact, there is no point in challenging. Retired - also a fact. After the collapse of the USSR, all republics became independent - a fact. What do they want now? Unclear. For each separately, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs works. Independence is not always an advantage. I’m always telling my wife about this - here’s your freedom of choice, and she’s me - you are a despot. How to understand her? So in politics, especially recently. And the strangest thing - Military Review was attacked on holidays. Conclusion - it means someone interferes with their unbiased judgments.

[Tersky]

Quote: Svarog51

I’m always telling my wife about this - here’s your freedom of choice, and she’s me - you are a despot. How to understand her?

Easy - provided freedom of choice, but did not give money for what was chosen. Hello, Sergey ! !

[Svarog51]

Victor Do not offend, please, on the eve of the holiday, how can it be? Favorite and only! Naturally did not give money. He brought where he wanted and paid for what is not needed in the house. Well woman, I can’t argue with her.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

More precisely, they miscalculated. They wanted to go with Hitler to the Russians ... However, they did. Polish soldiers after surrender en masse entered the Wehrmacht. But they didn’t ...

[svp67]

We conveyed to the Russian ambassador our position that the position of the Russian authorities is in serious conflict with the country's international obligations, as well as in fact a mockery of millions of victims of the Stalinist regime, including primarily the people of Russia itself.

Stalin, you don’t like the pans ... Well then be HONEST until the end, return all the territories that you’ve attached to your country

[Gennady Fomkin]

Szczierczyński said that the head of the Russian state wants to "embroil" Warsaw with the allies and "undermine" the Polish "point of view, which <...> could attract the attention of the whole world",
-------------------------------------------------- ------
What sixes can have allies? What are you talking about?
The attention of the whole world they need.
So enclose your Pshechland with a high fence and fill it with concrete. The whole world will talk about you, breeders for centuries. Turning a finger at the temple .....

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, great! They just periodically need to be allowed to be themselves ...
And then a lot falls into place, and there is no need to explain anything.

[Alien From]

The Foreign Ministry of Panov needs to understand for a long time, well, they are not interesting for our field of vision, not that level .......

[Gennady Fomkin]

They would be silent and not shine, because if Russia opens the archives on the Holocaust and the place of Poles in it, the fourth partition of Poland will be inevitable.
Moreover, the main divider will be Israel and the United States’s Khabadniks, and this is not Russian to you, these will take everything to the last thread and% in 75 years.

[tarragon]

Successfully They were tamed. Gentlemen began to play with the Poles history. If Poland missed our troops to help Czechoslovakia, there could have been no second world war.

[RUSS]

Quote: Tarhun

Successfully they have been trained

This is what?

[Professor]

According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”.

Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated.

[HAM]

No, he’s not offended, he wanted to go to Africa ..

[Professor]

Quote: HAM

No, he’s not offended, he wanted to go to Africa ..

Zionists considered plans to create a Jewish state in Africa, and that was long before Hitler.

[RUSS]

Quote: professor

Zionists considered plans for a Jewish state in Africa

In northern Africa, there are places where Jews have lived since ancient times, I was in Tunisia on the island of Djerba that year, there is a synagogue there and it is more than 2000 years old.

[Avior]

In Uganda.
The Polish-Jewish delegation also traveled to Madascar

[Professor]

Quote: Volodin

Quote: professor

Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated.

This is the kind of bottom a man had to break through so that he, living in Israel, would declare "juggling" and "taking out of context" information about the events associated with the Holocaust. It turns out that even on the Holocaust there can be a position of "your son of a bitch"? And, it turns out, if the archival documents do not lie on the plane "Russia and Stalin personally are to blame for everything," then is this a "perverted picture"? Well, well, you will go far ... Already gone ...

Simple and on my own: Do not be ashamed?

Why should I be ashamed? Because I know the facts, and does the sun-faced man juggle the facts by tearing them? Attracts one fact to another character, rearranges dates? He should be ashamed.

Where do I excuse the Poles? Where do I blame Russia? Do not pull the owl on the globe.

Regarding Dzhugashvili, he was so worthy of his friend Hitler. He refused to accept the Jews of Germany when Eichmann offered him. There was no place in the USSR. Jews were sent to gas chambers. However, this did not stop the USSR from granting transit visas to Japan and China for wealthy Jews for wealthy Jews. Money doesn't smell.

We know our story well and we do not need either a fabulous or a Polish minister for this.

[albert]

Quote: Volodin

Simple and on my own: Do not be ashamed?

Kolomoisky, Zelensky and Poroshenko are Jews. And they kiss kisses with the Nazis. You should not expect this from the Zionists.

[RUSS]

Quote: albert

Kolomoisky, Zelensky and Poroshenko are Jews. And they kiss kisses with the Nazis.

Did you hold a candle or did Kissel and Nightingale tell you this?

[Squelcher]

I never thought that you hate Russia so much that you are ready to spit on the graves of your relatives. Before the start of the Second World War, about 3.5 million Jews in Poland, the end of the Second World War, about 300 thousand remained in Poland.
“The Poles collaborated with the Nazis, and I don’t know a single person who would be held accountable for this statement.” This is your ruler.

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

Before the start of the Second World War, about 3.5 million Jews in Poland, the end of the Second World War, about 300 thousand remained in Poland.

Stalin refused to accept them on his territory, refusing Germany. Will we forget about this too?

Quote: Squelcher

“The Poles collaborated with the Nazis, and I don’t know a single person who would be held accountable for this statement.” This is your ruler.

The USSR collaborated with the Nazis and together gave rich Jews transit visas. Then this shop closed and the Jews were taken to Auschwitz.

[Squelcher]

So why didn’t Israel accept?

Perhaps such a state did not exist? This is the "bloody" Stalin. The first country to recognize the Jewish state in full, de jure, was the Soviet Union on May 17 [92]. First Minister of Foreign Affairs of Israel Moshe Sharet in the first official telegram of Israel to the USSR expressed "deep gratitude and respect to the people of Israel for the steadfast position taken by the Soviet delegation to the UN in support of the formation of an independent and sovereign Jewish state."
The ingratitude is the dignity of a pig. I hope real Jews remember this.

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

So why didn’t Israel accept?

Is it not because Palestine was under the British Mandate and they issued a White Paper restricting the entry of Jews?

Quote: Squelcher

Perhaps such a state did not exist? This is the "bloody" Stalin. The first country to recognize the Jewish state in full, de jure, was the Soviet Union on May 17 [92]. First Minister of Foreign Affairs of Israel Moshe Sharet in the first official telegram of Israel to the USSR expressed "deep gratitude and respect to the people of Israel for the steadfast position taken by the Soviet delegation to the UN in support of the formation of an independent and sovereign Jewish state."

Recognized a fait accompli? But why did he put sticks in wheels and prevent Jews from forming Israel?

Quote: Squelcher

The ingratitude is the dignity of a pig. I hope real Jews remember this.

Remember the Jews and state anti-Semitism and the Case of doctors and visas of 150 pounds and the refusal to accept Jews. They also remember the Red Army that liberated Auschwitz. Everyone remembers.

[Squelcher]

State anti-Semitism, cool, here's an example for you, very in the Stalinist USSR:
Laureates of the Stalin Prize:
Writers: Samuel Marshak (1942, 1946, 1949, 1951), Ilya Erenburg (1942, 1948, 1951), Emanuel Kazakevich (1948, 1950), Margarita Aliger (1943), Lev Kassil (1951), Vera Inber (1946) and a lot others; film director Julius Raizman (1941, 1943, 1946 - twice, 1950, 1952), singer Mark Reisen (1941, 1949, 1951), actor Mark Bernes (1951), composer Matvey Blanter (1946), violinist David Oistrakh (1943), cartoonist Boris Efimov (1950, 1951), sculptor Zaire Azgur (1946, 1948) and many others. The early 1950s saw the heyday of the activities of David Dragunsky, a former member of the JAC. Dragunsky opposed Zionism, identified it with anti-Semitism, often represented the USSR abroad, and actively criticized aliyah and the policies of the state of Israel. Many scientists who won the Stalin Prize are ophthalmologist Mikhail Averbakh (1943), mathematicians Israel Gelfand (1951, 1953), Felix Gantmakher (1948), Leonid Kantorovich (1949), Alexander Khinchin (1941), physicists Lev Artsimovich (1953), Lev Altshuler (1943, 1949, 1953), Yakov Zeldovich (1943, 1949, 1951, 1953), Abram Ioffe (1942), Lev Landau (1946, 1949, 1953), Julius Khariton (1949, 1951, 1953), aircraft designer Mikhail Gurevich ( 1941, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1952, 1953), historian Eugene Tarle (1942, 1943, 1946).
Fascists of Jews forced to pour yellow stars on clothes, gave Russian prizes.
Feel straight some inferiority complex?

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

Feel straight some inferiority complex?

Tell us the details of Doctors' Cases and we will discuss Khariton.

[Squelcher]

Well, tell me how the doctors' case ended? How many "chosen by God" were shot or hanged?

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

Well, tell me how the doctors' case ended? How many "chosen by God" were shot or hanged?

They didn’t shoot and hang everyone, why complain? Well, they shot the members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee. Well, not a million people. Why complain? Well, they went to jail for baking matzo. Well, they shot it. Why complain? Well, Jews were limited in admission to universities, and some were not taken at all. Well, they didn’t refer to Siberia. Why complain?
Let's continue the list of state anti-Semitism in the scoop?

[Squelcher]

Do you know how you are disagreeable to others?
Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians and other nationalities fell into the millstones of the state repressive system and were subjected to repression. They led the shootings and shot both Jews and other nationalities.
You represent your nationality white and fluffy, Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew. That the hands of your representatives are also up to the elbow in the blood. But this is a story, accept it and stop dancing on the graves.

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

Do you know how you are disagreeable to others?

And you?

Quote: Squelcher

Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians and other nationalities fell into the millstones of the state repressive system and were subjected to repression. They led the shootings and shot both Jews and other nationalities.

However, not many nations were repressed. Russians and Belarusians were not included in this list. Forgot?

Quote: Squelcher

You represent your nationality white and fluffy, Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew.

Take a photo of the document.

Quote: Squelcher

That the hands of your representatives are also up to the elbow in the blood. But this is a story, accept it and stop dancing on the graves.

I still didn't get it. You continue to assert that there was no policy of state anti-Semitism in the scoop? Dzhugashvili did not refuse Germany's request to accept Jews? A scoop for big money didn't "save" Jews?

[Squelcher]

Eat don’t hang on.
JEWS in the main department of the NKVD Camps and Settlements Head - Berman Yakov Matveyevich - Until 1936, the Head of the Main Directorate of Correctional Labor Camps - GULAG - was the III rank commissar Berman Matvey, and the head of the USSR NKVD department was another III rank commissar Boris Berman. Apparently it was the Berman family contract. Deputy and head of the free-settlement department of the NKVD of the USSR - Firin Samuil Yakovlevich. The head of camps and settlements on the territory of the Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, at the same time the head of the White Sea political camp - Kogan Samuil Leonidovich. Head of camps and settlements in the Northern Territory - Finkelstein Head of camps and settlements in the Sverdlovsk region - Pogrebinsky. Head of camps and settlements in Western Siberia - Sabo. The head of camps and settlements in Kazakhstan is Volin. The head of the ELEPHANT (Solovetsky camp for special purposes) is Serpukhovsky. The head of the Verkhne-Uralskiy political isolation ward for special purposes is Mezner. That is, the leadership of the "Gulag Archipelago" consisted only of Jews. The "honor" of the invention of these famous death camps belongs to the Jew Natan (Naftaly) Aronovich Frenkel, which the Western press never mentions out of "modesty", dumping the "camps" on the "scapegoat" of Joseph Stalin ...
JEWS - Heads of the NKVD Local Departments. Moscow Region - Redens Leningrad Region - Zakovsky Western Region - Blat Northern Territory - Ritkovsky Azov-Black Sea Territory - Friedberg Saratov Territory - Pillar Stalingrad Territory - Rappoport Orenburg Region - Paradise Gorky Territory - Abrampolsky North Caucasus Territory - Fayvilovich Sverdlovsk Region - Bashkir SSR - Bashkir Region - Zelikman Western Siberia - Gogol Eastern Siberia - Trotsky Central Asia - Krukovsky Belarus - Leplevsky At the time of the creation of the NKVD, his top leadership looked like this: People’s Commissar - G.G. Yagoda, Jew 1st deputy. People's Commissar - Ya.S. Agranov, Jew, 2nd Deputy. People's Commissar - G.E. Prokofiev, Russian Main Directorate of State Security (GUGB) - without a head Main Directorate of Workers 'and Peasants' Militia (GURKM) - L.N. Volsky, Jew Main Directorate of Border and Internal Security (SUE) - M.P. Frinovsky, Russian Main Directorate of Fire Protection (GUPO) - M.E. Khryapenkov, Russian GULAG - M.D.Berman, Jewish Civil Status Department (OASA) - M.M. Alievsky, Jewish Administrative and Administrative Department (ACU) - I.M. Ostrovsky, Jew Finance Department (FINO) - L.I. Berenzon, Jew Human Resources Department (OK) - Y. M.Veynshtok, Jew Secretariat of the NKVD of the USSR - P.P. Bulanov, Russian Special Commissioner of the NKVD of the USSR - V. D. Feldman, Jew In addition, the GUGB, i.e. State Security proper, included the following departments: Special Department (OO) - M.I. Gai, Jew Secret Political Department (OSS) - G.A. Molchanov, Russian Economic Department (ECO) - L.G. Mironov, Jew Foreign Department (INO) - A.Kh. Artuzov, hez Operational department (Opera) - K.V. Pauker, Jew Special department (Special department) - G.I. Bokiy, Ukrainian (Ukrainian Jew) Transport department (TO) - V.A .Kishkin, Russian Accounting and Statistics Division (USO) - Ya.M. Genkin, Jew, People's Commissar of the NKVD - Gershel Gershelevich Yehuda aka Heinrich Yagoda. 0 * First Deputy. beg. OGPU (who shot the writer N.S. Gumileva) Ya.S. Agranov (Sorenzon) * Head of the Main Directorate for Camps and Settlements - M.D. Berman. * His deputy is Rapoport S.G., then - Eichmans F.I. * Chief Accountant of the NKVD Berenzon * Head of the chemical laboratory (poisoning) Mairanovsky * Head of the White Sea camps - L.I. Kogan. * The head of the camps of the Leningrad region is Zakovsky. * Head of the White Sea-Baltic Camp (canal construction) - S.Ya. Firin. * Head of the Prison Directorate of the NKVD of the USSR - Kh. Apert. * The head of the camps in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR - S. B. Katznelson, then - Balitsky. * Head of the camps of the Northern regions - Finkelstein. * The head of the camps in the Sverdlovsk region is Pogrebinsky, then Shklyar. * The head of the camps in the Kazakh SSR is Pauline. * The head of the camps in Western Siberia is Shabo, then Gogel. * The head of the camps of the Azov-Black Sea region - Friedberg. * The head of the camps of the Saratov region - Pilar. * The head of the camps in the Stalingrad region - Paradise, * The head of the camps in the Gorky region - Abrampolsky, * The head of the camps in the North Caucasus - Fayvilovich, * The head of the camps in Bashkiria Zaligman, * The head of the camps in the Far Eastern region - Deribas, * The head of the camps in Belarus - Leplevsky THEM. (responsible for executions in Kurapaty). * The head of the special camp on the Solovetsky Islands is Serpukhov. * Head of the "Central Administration of Trade and General Nutrition of the NKVD - M.B. Schneerson. * The head of the "Engineering and Construction Department of the NKVD of the USSR" - A. Lurie * Head of the Government Security Department - K. Pauker * Special Commissioner at the Board of the NKVD -. Feldman V.D. * Head of the Secretariat of the NKVD. Daig Ya.A. * Head of the Special Department of the GUGB NKVD. - Leplevsky I.M. * Radzivilovsky A.P. Head of the 3rd Division 3 of the Office of the NKVD of the USSR. * Guy M.N. The beginning special department of the GU NKVD * Tkalun P.P. The commandant of the Kremlin * Berman B.D. - Head 3 of the Office of the NKVD. * Schwartzman Deputy Head of the investigative unit * Reichman L.I. * * * What scumbag it wrote “If we recognize that the purpose of everything that exists is the appearance of the SUPER MAN, then an essential part of this goal is the appearance of the SUPER PEOPLE. And so this people will be fertile ground on which the desired type of SUPER MAN can develop ”? You did not guess :) there is not Hitler :), but the GEORGE Aha; d ha-A; m (Heb. ;;;;;; ;;;;;, letters.

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

Eat don’t hang on.

Well? Served in the NKVD и Jews.

I repeat the questions:
Do you know how you are disagreeable to others?

However, not many nations were repressed. Russians and Belarusians were not included in this list. Forgot?

Take a photo of the document.

I still didn't get it. You continue to assert that there was no policy of state anti-Semitism in the scoop? Dzhugashvili did not refuse Germany's request to accept Jews? A scoop for big money didn't "save" Jews?

[Squelcher]

Ask a question to the Jews who were at the helm as in the NKVD and at that moment why they refused to save their tribesmen by nationality, but chose to further protect, torture and exterminate other people, look for their descendants on their land, ask them.
Ask Georgians why?
By the way, they have several monuments of Dzhugashvili, and they are proud of it.
Ask why the executioners were cleaned up after they had done their dirty deed of exterminating class enemies without regard to nationality.

[Professor]

1. Do you know why you are unpleasant to others?

2. However, not many nations were subjected to repression. Russians and Belarusians were not included in this list. Forgot?

3. Take a photo of the document.

4. I still don't get it. You continue to assert that there was no policy of state anti-Semitism in the scoop? Dzhugashvili did not refuse Germany's request to accept Jews? A scoop for big money didn't "save" Jews?

[Squelcher]

Ask a question to the Jews who were at the helm as in the NKVD and at that moment why they refused to save their tribesmen by nationality, but chose to further protect, torture and exterminate other people, look for their descendants on their land, ask them.
Ask Georgians why?
By the way, they have several monuments of Dzhugashvili, and they are proud of it.
Ask why the executioners were cleaned up after they had done their dirty deed of exterminating class enemies without regard to nationality.

[Professor]

The client merged, and how many show-offs were. "Trotsky wrote in the column the nationality of the Jew."

[Squelcher]

You shit on your fellow tribesmen and are happy, you are a strange person and can you be "God's chosen one"?

[Professor]

Trotsky wrote in the column nationality Jew

[RUSS]

Quote: professor

Peeple shawal

People also gagged that allegedly "Stalin did not stain himself with personal meetings with Hitler," but only, what difference does that make? Stalin met with Ribbentrop, but the most important thing is that Stalin agreed with Hitler on the secret protocol included in the famous pact, but Putin kept silent about this.

[PavelM]

A Pole named "RUSS" threw his two pence.

[RUSS]

Quote: PavelM

A Pole named "RUSS" threw his two pence.

Have a good evening too

[Professor]

Quote: RUSS

People also gagged that allegedly "Stalin did not stain himself with personal meetings with Hitler," but only, what difference does that make?

Personally, I did not shake hands. Scriabin sent. This does not make Dzhugashvili innocent of friendship with the Nazis.

Quote: RUSS

Stalin met with Ribbentrop, but the most important thing is that Stalin agreed with Hitler the secret protocol included in the famous pact, that’s what Putin was silent about.

Did he just keep silent about this?

[Svarog51]

Oleg Well, you know that our "People" is far from stupid, otherwise everything would have ended in 91. He knows how to eat and spit out something that is not edible. Otherwise - death from poisoning.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The chosen ones trade to the best of their ability. In this case, apparently, the profits are not very good, and therefore they are silent.

[HAM]

The Poles want to be holier than McCain, they jump out of their pants ... but, as usual, the initiative is punishable.
Jump to the full opening of the archives ...

[Amateur]

Poles need to blow up Stalin's "Palace of Culture and Science" in protest

Do not clean the remaining pile of garbage (something like this)

Write a sign: "This symbol of Stalinist-Putin totalitarianism was destroyed in protest against the fact that VVP called the Pan-fascist a pig."
And drive to the ruins of American soldiers and Ukrainian migrant workers.

[RUSS]

Quote: Amateur

Poles need to blow up Stalin's "Palace of Culture and Science" in protest

They wanted to demolish, but so far changed their minds

[Pavel57]

From the category - And why.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: professor

According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”.

Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated.

On December 18, in New York at a plenary meeting of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly, a resolution was introduced by the delegation of the Russian Federation “Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance” . In November, the text was approved by the Third Committee of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly.

This year, the number of co-sponsors of the document reached 62. The overwhelming majority of states supported the resolution - 133. As in previous years, only the delegations of the USA and Ukraine opposed, and 52 countries abstained from voting.

It is clearly seen that the entire "civilized world" is drowning for fascism / Nazism

[Professor]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Quote: professor

According to this “logic” of the Polish diplomat, it is necessary to conclude that official Warsaw intends to consider data from archival documents as “historical insinuations”.

Only now, with these data, did the sun-faced man try to juggle out of context, swindle and compile a perverted picture. Peepll cheated.

On December 18, in New York at a plenary meeting of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly, a resolution was introduced by the delegation of the Russian Federation “Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance” . In November, the text was approved by the Third Committee of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly.

This year, the number of co-sponsors of the document reached 62. The overwhelming majority of states supported the resolution - 133. As in previous years, only the delegations of the USA and Ukraine opposed, and 52 countries abstained from voting.

It is clearly seen that the entire "civilized world" is drowning for fascism / Nazism

"introduced by the delegation of the Russian Federation" are the key words, CEP.

[Svarog51]

So can you help against Nazism, but will not triumph that you were silent? Or is the margin not shining here?

[Professor]

Quote: Svarog51

So can you help against Nazism, but will not triumph that you were silent? Or is the margin not shining here?

What are you talking about? Personally, instead of the Israeli delegation, I would ALWAYS vote against any Russian initiative, as Russia does. reciprocity principle, CEP. And in this case, Israel supported the Russian resolution. In vain.

[Victor March 47]

Touched by the care of Pshek for the victims of the Stalinist regime. However, this is not an indulgence to the Poles in collusion with the Nazis and war, much more of their citizens on the side of Hitler. Centuries of confrontation with Russia and two months of struggle with us against the common enemy, Germany. Somehow it was not appropriate for them to be our teachers in this matter.

[Kamikaze19]

What are Russia's obligations to the m. Community? Always be bent or something?

[arhPavel]

position of the Russian authorities comes into serious conflict with the country's international obligations

It’s so interesting, let the facts cite words and usual chatter.
Again they are trying to bring the problem to the “just tryndet” area

[1536]

Discuss the actions of the so-called Poles, put them on the same level with you. You should have ignored these "photos to the material" and what they say.
The answer must be a firm policy, the publication of archival documents exposing the role of the Polish state on the eve of World War II, as well as the role of the Polish People's Republic in organizing subversive activities in the period from 1945 to 1989 against the USSR and socialism in general. It will also be useful for our business, which should know that it can simply be deceived if it makes "friendship" with the Poles on the basis of "trust or mutually beneficial cooperation." This cannot be a priori today.

[Victorio]

I think that it certainly will not be worse if the position of the Russian Federation will be tough and further, especially on the eve of the anniversary

[Jarserge]

The fantasies of the Poles contradict the historical truth, confirmed by archival documents, but they are in line with the US propaganda course at the present stage.

[demo]

The Russian ambassador was expressed a position regarding the inadmissibility of historical insinuations, which representatives of the top Russian leadership have repeatedly allowed themselves in recent days.
Insinuations are slanderous fabrications.
The President of the Russian Federation relies in his statements on numerous archival documents of our country, many times duplicated by similar documents of other countries.
Where are the insinuations, especially historical ones?
The Polish ambition did not bring to good.
There were three sections of Poland.
Extreme may happen.

[Looking for]

Quote: RUSS

lost 6 million of their citizens in WWII.

to begin with, take away the number of Polish Jews killed. and immediately the remaining figure will cease to amaze with its scale

[RUSS]

Quote: Seeker

to begin with, take away the number of Polish Jews killed. and immediately the remaining figure will cease to amaze with its scale

Are you a Nazi? Jews in Poland were Polish citizensand yes they destroyed about 3 million, if you talk about it

[Tank hard]

Quote: RUSS

Are you a Nazi?

And you, after your contemptuous name for the Russians quilted jackets? This term is often repeated by the Nazis from Ukraine ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Tank Hard

names of Russians

I recently called one padded coat here, so he confirmed this and added that he is a scoop and is proud of everything. So that is so.

[Tank hard]

Quote: RUSS

So that is so.

That is, you do not deny that you are a Nazi?

[RUSS]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: RUSS

So that is so.

That is, you do not deny that you are a Nazi?

The definition of a padded jacket does not apply to nationality

[Baursak]

No, of course, you are not a Nazi, you are a racist. Looks like you are from God's chosen ..

[faterdom]

Let them get used to it. There will be no more "repentance" for them. But to ask strictly - there is a reason. We understand that it is unpleasant - but we cannot offer another medicine, we must treat all patients. And money too, the same Pasia, IOC, WADA, VZHO and other biased get-together.

[zenion]

Poles attacked Israel when Israel published documents on the involvement of Poles in the murders of Jews in Poland. But in Israel they quickly shut up the Poles by reading their very documents, reports from the Polish police to the German ruler.

[PavelM]

Quote: 210ox

It would be nice if our leadership was imbued with the "Stalinist narrative".

Absolutely! Putin is directly responsible for the anti-Russian rhetoric of the West. The truth is that when they spit on Stalin, and Putin does not limit himself in this, they automatically spit on Russian History, then what are Putin’s complaints about Poland or the European Union?

[PavelM]

Putin is directly responsible for the anti-Russian rhetoric of the West. The truth is that when "insiders" spit at Stalin, and Putin does not limit himself in this, they automatically spit on the History of Russia, then what claims does Putin have against Poland or the European Union?

[Tank hard]

Quote: PavelM

Putin is directly responsible for the anti-Russian rhetoric of the West. The truth is that when "insiders" spit at Stalin, and Putin does not limit himself in this, they automatically spit on the History of Russia, then what claims does Putin have against Poland or the European Union?

That under Putin, that before him, the rhetoric of the West has always been anti-Russian. Why is this your post here?

[RUSS]

Quote: zenion

theirs

Theirs, there is no word "theirs".

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: rocket757

Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

Europeans remember everything.

European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

Quote: RUSS

Quote: rocket757

Remember the LEADER, already good. So the yeast in the knees is still here!

Europeans remember everything.

European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism is celebrated on August 23, the day the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union was signed and the Secret Additional Protocol, "which divided Europe into spheres of influence." Proclaimed by the European Parliament on April 2, 2009.

I remember, I don’t remember

[RUSS]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

I remember, I don’t remember

Yes, like every politician
selective memory.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Friend of Horace

Yes, finally show me the Archives! What are you threatening! Or is the ugly page of Russia going up too?

Will come out-the special disgusting behavior of the "allies" in the anti-Hitler coalition, no matter what happens for those offended on the head

[Kibl]

Poland country is a parasite and generally a slut shoulder!

[Gennady Fomkin]

During his visit to Israel, Duda showed a more moderate stance, recognizing that “the historical truth is not always pleasant, including the Polish people”, and that “like every nation, we also had noble people, but there were those who deserve condemnation and contempt. " About those Poles who participated in the persecution and extermination of Jews, Duda said that they "expelled themselves from the Polish people." Everyone can judge this statement in accordance with its opinion, but taking into account the data at its disposal

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

I remember, I don’t remember

Yes, like every politician
selective memory.

Memory and documents - such a thing - it is ONE

[Gennady Fomkin]

In 1988, Grabowski, who has relatives in Israel, emigrated from Poland to Canada. “I thought communism would never fall, but I was mistaken,” he explains. Today, he is a professor of history at the University of Ottawa, specializing in studies of the deaths of Polish Jews and Polish-Israeli relations. In addition to his “Hunt for the Jews,” other books were published telling about the crimes committed by the Poles against the Jews. “Neighbors” by Jan-Tomasz Gross was published in 2000 and shocked Poland. And three years later, Anna Viscount published the book “We Are Deadly”, which was published by the Carmel Publishing House in Hebrew at the end of 2017: there are interviews with witnesses to the murders, the murderers themselves, and those who escaped from the pogrom described by Gross. , diary of Stanislav Zheminsky, a teacher from the city of Lukov. He documented the horrors of war until he died in Majdanek in 1943. This diary was later found in a pile of camp garbage and later transferred to the Institute of Jewish History in Warsaw. 300 pages of Grabowski’s book are filled with ruthless testimonies in which Polish peasants appear heartless monsters ready to kill a neighbor for a bottle of vodka without blinking an eye. The post-war testimonies of a young girl, Hai Rosenblatt, are given there: in the areas adjacent to the ghetto, hunting for Jews became so common that even dogs got used to the sounds of shooting and stopped responding to them by barking. This diary is hard to read. It includes recollections of how Polish farmers surrounded one of the villages and started the “Jewish hunt” - as they called it. They wanted to receive a reward appointed by the Germans: vodka, sugar, potatoes, butter, and also to take the personal belongings of the victims. “They led the Jews out of their homes, sought out in the fields and gardens. Before the shots had fallen silent, they were in a hurry to inspect their property. The bodies of the Jews have not yet cooled down, as they already wrote statements on their homes, shops, workshops and land. They volunteered to participate in this hunt, without the slightest coercion, ”Zheminsky testified.

“Orgies of killings were done not only by Germans and their assistants - Ukrainians and Lithuanians,” he wrote. - “It was clear that our dear policemen [Poles] will take part in the massacre, because it is known that they are animals. But everything turned out to be even more tragic - it turned out that ordinary Poles, volunteers, were at one with them. ” These are not Russians who stick a testicle to a German so that he would shoot and not torment.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Warsaw is very comfortable in the modern conditions of anti-Russian hysteria. The Polish authorities shout loudly at every opportunity: "We were the first victims of totalitarianism back in 1939." Many people readily believe this. Because they don't know the true history of those fatal events. And we can remind. For example, how all the 1930s Polish politicians dreamed of crushing "Bolshevism" (as they called the USSR) together with Hitler. Under the Polish General Staff, the "Prometheus" organization operated, which aimed to dismember Russia along ethnic lines. The agents were then carefully handed over to the German Abwehr. So, about July 1946. In Poland - a disgusting Jewish pogrom. And do you know under what motto? "Let's finish the case of Adolf Hitler." A crowd of Poles (about 2000 people, which were joined by the people's militia), shouting (attention!): "Death to the Jews!", "Death to the murderers of our children!" Among the 47 killed were children and pregnant women. Wounded - more than 50. To the credit of the Polish people, there were those who tried to prevent the brutal crowd.
Protocol of interrogation of witness Przezhdziecki: “I saw with my own eyes how a policeman beat a Jewish woman on the head with a machine gun, who was subsequently taken to the hospital in grave condition (I don’t know the name of this policeman). Then an army unit arrived. The military together with the police took the Jews out of the their crowd, which brutally - with sticks, stones - killed. The police and military also killed. "

[Gennady Fomkin]

Soviet agitprop made a lot of mistakes in the postwar period. We have grown generations with an incomplete idea of ​​what actually happened during the Second World War. And those who knew did not want to talk about this, so as not to destroy the fraternity of the builders of communism. As a result, now the Poles do not really know their own past. It’s easier for them to be offended by Putin. Although he still hasn’t told much about them

[Gennady Fomkin]

President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia (FEOR) Rabbi Alexander Boroda expressed gratitude to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called the Polish diplomat Józef Lipski, who supported the genocide of Jews in Poland in the 1930s, "a bastard and an anti-Semitic pig"

[Wolf]

The most head is addressed erroneously !!! POLISH POLICY CATHOLIC DOLL !!! B. In my opinion, the Vatican should be addressed to the ANTISEMITISIS, the Polacs are just contractors!

[Wolf]

This is about how to condemn Luzhichka Serba and Prus to Hitler’s policy!

[Ros 56]

Correct, is it like I didn’t drop in a nickel? Well, diplomat, you have to endure. Stalin, of course, would have put these ghouls in their place, they would have stuttered for about a hundred years. But GDP plays long, although the method of Joseph Vissarionych is more suitable for me.

[georggy]

And how he will explain the Pilsudski narrative.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: KIBL

Poland country is a parasite and generally a slut shoulder!

What in the colors was emphasized by a TV show participant, one Yakub Koreyba, who said that if we (the Russians) pay more, then they will become pro-Russian.

[f44823olympus.ru]

Hmmm... - “that the position of the Russian authorities comes into serious conflict with the country’s international obligations” - what is he talking about?! What international obligations has Russia taken upon itself again??? Not telling the truth?!

[st2st]

Lavrov and Masha Zakharova are trying to prove something to the arrogant Saxons. It's funny and looks stupid. The culprits have already been appointed by the State Department - this is the USSR. And we, once again, swallowed and remained silent. What do the Americans have against our rulers in power if they ... stick their tongues in and remain silent? Fear of losing property? Fear of non-issuance of a green card?

[PavelM]

Quote: Vita VKO

Victory in the Great Patriotic War is 100% Victory for the common people of our country

“Victory of the common people” - who would reject THIS? Only bad luck... name at least one example of “ordinary people” doing something on their own!?
1611, Poles in Moscow. Militia. Victory of the common people? No! For the “victory of the common people,” it took Minin and Pozharsky (!) at the head of this very people’s militia. Or will you argue that the people did everything THEMSELVES? Ahhh!, maybe you are an anarchist and adjust History to suit your beliefs? Funny.

Stalin's role in the defeat of Europe united by Hitler in 1945 is ABSOLUTE. To claim otherwise is to rewrite History!

By the way, what size team do you manage? So, be consistent, submit an application of your own free will, your team will cope without you!

[iouris]

All material is presented as Polish propaganda. Who is on the photo?