In the suburbs of New York there was an attack on the synagogue


In the USA, an attack was made on the house of the rabbi. We are talking about the attack of an unknown in the New York suburb of Moncy. According to some reports, the local synagogue is located in the same house.


The attacker attacked people with a knife (according to other sources - with a machete), while shouting anti-Semitic slogans.

It is reported that as a result of the attack there are wounded. According to some reports, the local rabbi is among the victims. The total number of victims at the moment is not reported.

Eyewitnesses report that the attacker is an African American. He went to the house of the rabbi, drew a knife and committed criminal acts.

The local Jewish community notes that the attack occurred during the celebration of Hanukkah - the "festival of lights." From a community post after attacking a rabbi:

These people consciously sacrifice the blood of the Jews, thereby demonstrating their ideology, for which there can be no place in a free society, in a free country.

The place of attack on the house of the rabbi was cordoned off, a man with stab wounds was taken to the clinic. The identity of the attacker has not yet been established. There is also no data on what happened to the criminal himself.

Recently, states have seen an increase in anti-Semitic actions. It is noteworthy that representatives of the African American population participate in them.

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  1. svp67 29 December 2019 09: 12 New
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    Yeah, the Negro anti-Semite is much cooler ... Well, I think that this is another reason to impose sanctions against Russia and its metallurgical enterprises, since the “Hiley Like” metal for the knife was “Russian”, and the attacker was also “Hiley” like "watched RT. Yes, and I won’t be surprised if he has, well, "purely by chance" at home on the wall they "find" a portrait of Putin
    But seriously - then a speedy full recovery to the victims of this attack
    1. bouncyhunter 29 December 2019 09: 19 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Yes, and I won’t be surprised if he has, well, "purely by chance" at home on the wall they "find" a portrait of Putin

      You forgot that he studied at RUDN University - there he was recruited.
      But seriously - I join your wishes to the victims.
      1. svp67 29 December 2019 09: 28 New
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        You forgot that he studied at RUDN University - there he was recruited.

        Exactly for sure ...
    2. Dart2027 29 December 2019 09: 31 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Yeah, the negro anti-Semite is much cooler ...

      Really. There is nothing good in what happened, but the fact itself?
      1. bessmertniy 29 December 2019 10: 19 New
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        Negroes not only do not like Jews, but in general, with the growth of their share in the country's population, the United States will still have problems of increasing racial hatred of blacks against whites. And it may turn out that the black Ku Klux Klan will begin to judge immigrants from Europe. negative
      2. ccsr 29 December 2019 11: 54 New
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        Quote: Dart2027
        Really. There is nothing good in what happened, but the fact itself?

        We don’t care about their tragedies if they themselves have destroyed so many people around the world that it is simply pointless to sympathize with them in some kind of inter-confessional conflict. Let the Israeli media drive a wave, and use their lobby to solve anti-Semitic problems in the USA - for us at Military Review, why should we discuss such dead cats? Or was everyone, like Putin, preoccupied with a statement eighty years ago by some Polish ambassador in Berlin to show everyone how we are concerned about the problems of relations between Israel and Poland?
        It is strange that this news became the subject of discussion at the VO, as if the "honest" Israelis had not arranged for us to provoke the Il-20M in Syria, and we have no other topics for discussion.
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      1. dzvero 29 December 2019 10: 44 New
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        not yet evening...
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  2. Aliken 29 December 2019 09: 18 New
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    The US is a hotbed of anti-Semitism, the Trump regime cannot protect its citizens.
    1. Professor 29 December 2019 09: 26 New
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      Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA. On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.
      The hotbeds of anti-Semitism today are universities. "The excess of liberalism."
      1. svp67 29 December 2019 09: 29 New
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        Quote: Professor
        On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.

        And in our country it’s not possible to talk about America in such a style as they are about Russians and Russia
        1. Observer2014 29 December 2019 10: 01 New
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          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Professor
          On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.

          And in our country it’s not possible to talk about America in such a style as they are about Russians and Russia

          hi I beg you. Now MIKHAN will catch up and everyone will be happy. laughing In general, the impression is that it is like in the USA. So we are pumping ordinary townsfolk with hatred for each other. And here I’ll take and put a video about the work of the American robots like myself. And on the drum I’m on them and our media. I have nothing to share with them.
          laughing good drinks
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        2. Professor 29 December 2019 10: 50 New
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          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Professor
          On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.

          And in our country it’s not possible to talk about America in such a style as they are about Russians and Russia

          For instance? Talking about America, you don’t choose expressions. On central television, they threaten to wipe America off the face of the earth. American Russophobia rest.
          Do you want me to tell you a terrible secret? In American talk shows, Russia is not remembered, and indeed Americans are not interested in Americans. They are interested in local news.
          Quote: Observer2014
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Professor
          On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.

          And in our country it’s not possible to talk about America in such a style as they are about Russians and Russia

          hi I beg you. Now MIKHAN will catch up and everyone will be happy. laughing In general, the impression is that it is like in the USA. So we are pumping ordinary townsfolk with hatred for each other. And here I’ll take and put a video about the work of the American robots like myself. And on the drum I’m on them and our media. I have nothing to share with them.
          laughing good drinks

          I bought 15 kg of epoxy and a bunch of pigments in the fall. Made 4 countertops. good

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          Quote: Professor
          Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA.

          In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.

          Not sure. Although Russophobia is just words, anti-Semitism is a corpse. Accordingly, the punishment.
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          2. svp67 29 December 2019 12: 30 New
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            Quote: Professor
            In American talk shows, Russia is not remembered, and indeed Americans are not interested in Americans. They are interested in local news.

            Yes, yes, and they skillfully weave Russia into them

            And they talk more about Russia not in talk shows, but in LEGISLATIVE BODIES ...
          3. lucul 29 December 2019 13: 00 New
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            Although Russophobia is just words, anti-Semitism is a corpse. Accordingly, the punishment.

            Especially the "Red Terror" - "these are just" words ......
            1. svp67 29 December 2019 14: 26 New
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              Quote: lucul
              Especially the "Red Terror" - "these are just" words ......

              Well, yes ... "revolutionary terror", "white terror", "pogroms" ... words, but what a nightmare is behind them
          4. tracer 29 December 2019 21: 15 New
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            Professor, there’s still a bunch of hype on YouTube, eat something, rub it on your heels, or make up unusually, dance at the car door in the end. Why do you need to translate the epoxy for nothing? I'm just laughing with you. You also got involved in mass hype. Here's a honest word, I thought better of you, though I criticized it many times. You comment so much smoke that they say "I know but I will not say." RZHUNIMAGU!
        3. Aliken 29 December 2019 14: 23 New
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          You correctly understood my message, sarcasm, I "mirrored" the US newspaper, if this happened in Russia.
      2. Victor_B 29 December 2019 09: 33 New
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        Quote: Professor
        Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA.

        In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.
        1. svp67 29 December 2019 09: 38 New
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          Quote: Victor_B
          In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.

          Since the “Jewish” lobby is more significant than the “Russian” one, and the “Holocaust” promoted by them is known to everyone, but about the destruction of the Russian population in the same war, the same burnt villages with the population, people who died from starvation in the occupation, in the same Shlisselburg, the population of Leningrad, killed in the blockade, those killed in concentration camps are not taken into account ...
          1. Victor_B 29 December 2019 09: 40 New
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            Quote: svp67
            Since the "Jewish" lobby is more significant "Russian"

            which, "Russian", practically does not exist. Like a class!
        2. avib 29 December 2019 11: 42 New
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          Quote: Victor_B
          Quote: Professor
          Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA.

          In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.

          Are there any cases of murder or at least an attack on someone outside the territory of the Russian Federation due to the fact that he is Russian by nationality?
          As if, if anti-Semitism == Russophobia, then somewhere in the world they should have killed the Russians for the fact that they are Russian.
          Fortunately, this does not happen. So it’s not necessary to identify.
          1. ccsr 29 December 2019 12: 04 New
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            Russophobia, somewhere in the world they should have killed Russians for the fact that they are Russians.

            Russians were killed because they were Russians in the republics of the former USSR after the collapse, and this is now less talked about than Jewish pogroms in tsarist Russia, although there were many times more Russians killed. I don’t even speak about the Second World War - there all of Europe excelled in the extermination of Soviet people, including Russians.
            So your spec
            Quote: avib
            if anti-Semitism == Russophobia,

            is essentially vile, because those who shout about anti-Semitism are the "lights of democracy", and if you only point out explicit Russophobia even in the former Soviet republics, then people like you scream that the Black Hundreds and Russian nationalists are reborn.
            1. Professor 29 December 2019 12: 13 New
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              Quote: ccsr
              Russians were killed because they were Russians in the republics of the former USSR after the collapse, and this is now less talked about than Jewish pogroms in tsarist Russia, although there were many times more Russians killed. I don’t even speak about the Second World War - there all of Europe excelled in the extermination of Soviet people, including Russians.

              1. Russians in these republics still live. How many Jews live in Arab countries?
              2. The Nazis did not destroy the Russians just because they were Russians. In the occupied territories, the Russians lived not badly. I know this from the stories of survivors.

              Quote: ccsr
              is essentially vile, because those who shout about anti-Semitism are the "lights of democracy", and if you only point out explicit Russophobia even in the former Soviet republics, then people like you scream that the Black Hundreds and Russian nationalists are reborn.

              Russophobia is no better than anti-Semitism, and yet Russophobia does not go beyond words. Fortunately. In New York, a Russophobe with a machete did not cut parishioners in the Russian Orthodox Church.
              Therefore, we scream. If the massacre in your church had happened, you would have squealed. Got it?
              1. ccsr 29 December 2019 12: 26 New
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                Quote: Professor
                How many Jews live in Arab countries?

                Type in Iraqi or Persian Jews on Wikipedia and find out approximate data.
                Quote: Professor
                The Nazis did not destroy the Russians just because they were Russians.

                Destroyed, you poorly know Hitler's theory of the Slavs, which is why you are considered dishonorable people, because you only scream about yourself at all angles.
                Quote: Professor
                and yet Russophobia does not go beyond words.

                Lies - I already gave an example with Central Asia and the Caucasus.
                Quote: Professor
                In New York, a Russophobe with a machete did not cut parishioners in the Russian Orthodox Church.

                Apparently Russians get them less in real life.
                Quote: Professor
                Therefore, we scream.

                We are well aware of this; we should not remind us.
                Quote: Professor
                Got it?

                As it came to pass, that’s why we don’t call you for permanent residence, even if blacks start to cut you.
                1. Vitaly gusin 29 December 2019 12: 48 New
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                  Quote: ccsr
                  As it came to pass, that’s why we don’t call you for permanent residence,

                  Russian President Vladimir Putin has invited Jews who do not feel safe in European countries, move to Russia.
                  The head of state made a corresponding statement during a meeting with representatives of the European Jewish Congress
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Type in Iraqi or Persian Jews on Wikipedia and find out approximate data.

                  Why trifle if you read ALL
                  At the time of the declaration of independence of the State of Israel in May 1948, more than 850 Jews lived in Arab countries and Iran. Okruglim, one million Jews.
                  259 thousand Jews fled from North Africa from Morocco,
                  140 thousand - from Algeria,
                  100 thousand - from Tunisia,
                  75 thousand - from Egypt,
                  38 thousand - from Libya.
                  In the Middle East, 135 Jews were expelled from Iraq,
                  55 thousand - from Yemen,
                  34 thousand - from Turkey,
                  20 thousand - from Lebanon
                  18 thousand - from Syria.
                  Iran forced 25 thousand Jews to leave the country. This is the only country where the Jewish community has remained for about 30 thousand, many are forbidden to travel to Israel (this is familiar from a previous life), but in order to exist they certainly must support the government line.
                  The history of Jewish communities in most Arab countries can be considered almost complete. Yes, in some countries of the Arab East there are still living Jews - for example, statistics say that in Egypt there are 7 Jews,
                  Baghdad 5 Jews
                  . There are even small communities in Morocco or Tunisia.
                  South Yemen 0
                  Algeria 0
                  November 30, Israel and the Jewish world recall the fate of more than 850 thousand Jews who were forced to leave Arab countries and Iran
                  And if this is not genocide, then what is gynocide?
                  1. ccsr 29 December 2019 12: 56 New
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                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    Russian President Vladimir Putin invited Jews who do not feel safe in European countries to move to Russia.

                    This is a propaganda statement, and it fits well with the fact that Putin skillfully plays the Jewish card, knowing that he will receive dividends. But really former citizens of the USSR already have two passports at least, so they will come to us even without an invitation, and they will also claim that they were forcibly expelled to Israel by the Russian Black Hundreds.
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    the only country where the Jewish community remained about 30 thousand banned from traveling to Israel

                    Apparently not everyone left for Israel - those who wanted could stay and find a common language with the authorities. It was the same in the USSR — we went through this.
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    And if this is not genocide, then what is gynocide?

                    The extermination of Soviet people in World War II was a more monstrous genocide than the mere expulsion of Jews from Semitic countries.
                    1. Vitaly gusin 29 December 2019 21: 30 New
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                      Quote: ccsr
                      This is a propaganda statement,

                      Statement Do you call the president of Russia propaganda?
                      Quote: ccsr
                      But really former citizens of the USSR already have two passports

                      Former citizens of the USSR were deprived of citizenship, and they do not have any other passports, including myself.
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Apparently not everyone left for Israel - those who wanted could stay and find a common language with the authorities. It was the same in the USSR - we went through it

                      But with this, I partially agree.
                      But with the amendment and addition.
                      Before the 1978 revolution, everything was in perfect order. Iran had the largest Jewish community in the Middle East. In 1979, business began to be confiscated from Jews and 50 thousand went to Israel. Today 10-20 thousand Jews live in Iran, you are right as the Jews lived in the USSR and shout the glory of the Communist Party (Ayatollah Khamenei). Whose voice is poorly audible, it is difficult for him.
                      Quote: ccsr
                      The extermination of Soviet people in World War II was a more monstrous genocide than the mere expulsion of Jews from Semitic countries.
                      arab countries
                      WITHOUT OBJECTIONS!
                      Many, here, want to see Russia without Jews.
                      Look at the list that I gave above and that in these countries life has become easier and more fun?
                      1. ccsr 30 December 2019 16: 52 New
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                        Do you call the statement of the President of Russia propaganda?

                        Naturally - no legislative acts were followed on this occasion.
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Former citizens of the USSR were deprived of citizenship, and they do not have any other passports, including myself.

                        Enough to lie - Bystritskaya’s sister is not living in Russia for a single day, thanks to her sister, she has managed to do her things in such a way that she receives a Russian pension as a Russian citizen. Where did she get Russian citizenship? Do you think we will believe in your "tragedy" of departure to the "historical homeland"? Tell this tale to someone else - you yourself were eager so that you did not want to think about anything and at least wait until everything settles down here. And I don’t believe your “tears” - Israel grants all Jews a second citizenship, so if on your own initiative you renounced a Russian, what claims can there be now?
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Many, here, want to see Russia without Jews.

                        This is not at all the case - they simply have become indifferent to your tantrums about anti-Semitism in Russia, and therefore you will leave or you will arrive, in fact the overwhelming population simply does not care. But the fact that the Jews are returning to Russia is a fact, as is the fact that many people buy housing here in order to flush from Israel to us, realizing that here the Arabs will not cut them on the streets, as happens in Europe or the USA .
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                        Look at the list that I gave above and that in these countries life has become easier and more fun?

                        I somehow do not care how they live - this is their business. And I advise you also applies to this event.
                      2. Vitaly gusin 30 December 2019 20: 09 New
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                        Enough to lie - Bystritskaya’s sister is not living in Russia for a single day, thanks to her sister, she has managed to do her things in such a way that she receives a Russian pension as a Russian citizen.

                        PROOF OF!
                        The rest of the trash, no comment!
                      3. ccsr 30 December 2019 21: 33 New
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                        PROOF OF!

                        She herself admitted this when a program was broadcast on Russian television about the sharing of the inheritance of E. Bystritskaya - look for this program on YouTube yourself.
                        https://youtu.be/_l_xErWSpgo
                        https://youtu.be/ZNdtkMscYdQ
                      4. Vitaly gusin 30 December 2019 22: 05 New
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                        sharing the inheritance of E. Bystritskaya - look for this program on YouTube yourself.

                        Thanks for the links, to be honest to watch an hour and a half this dregs is not interesting.
                        I will write personally to myself.
                        I repatriated to Israel in 1990 from the BSSR.
                        I handed over my passport, military ID, work book, paid 700 rubles (at that time a lot of money) for deprivation of citizenship, received an exit visa and was allowed to exchange rubles for dollars in the amount of $ 100 per person.
                        TODAY I AM ONLY THE ISRAELI PASSPORT FOR WHICH I CAN EXIT AS A TOURIST TO 130 COUNTRIES, INCLUDING RUSSIA.
                        Anyone who has repatriated from the RSFS can now receive a Russian pension, it ranges from $ 20 to $ 50.
                      5. ccsr 31 December 2019 12: 16 New
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                        I repatriated to Israel in 1990 from the BSSR.
                        I handed over my passport, military ID, work book, paid 700 rubles (at that time a lot of money) for deprivation of citizenship, received an exit visa and was allowed to exchange rubles for dollars in the amount of $ 100 per person.

                        Those. you confirm that no one from the USSR drove you, and didn’t make any obstacles to leaving — with the exception of paying for your personal desire to renounce Soviet citizenship. By the way, I saw a lot of people like you in Germany in the early nineties - for some reason they settled there, and did not go to Israel. As they say, the mysterious Jewish soul - even among its worst enemies settled.

                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Anyone who has repatriated from the RSFS can now receive a Russian pension, it ranges from $ 20 to $ 50.

                        You were incorrectly informed - in Russia the minimum pension, even in the most disadvantaged regions, is higher than $ 120. And in Moscow with Luzhkov's supplements about $ 300, which is why the Israelis “suddenly” became concerned about Russian pensions.
                      6. Vitaly gusin 31 December 2019 17: 08 New
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                        Those. you confirm that no one from the USSR drove you, and didn’t do anything to leave -

                        You do not have any information at all. At least surf the Internet.
                        In 60-70 years in general NOT Jews were released from the USSR. And too persistent imprisoned (find on the Internet). A very small number in the middle of 70. And only with the beginning of perestroika opened completely.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        By the way, people like you, I saw a lot in Germany in the early nineties - for some reason they settled there

                        Until 89, they left Israel at the invitation, and it was possible to go through Italy and Austria, and from there many flew to USA not to Israel.
                        But in Germany, only then began to receive Jews and many purposefully went there.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        As they say, the mysterious Jewish soul - even among its worst enemies settled.

                        No, this is not a Jewish soul, this is short memory.
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                        You were incorrectly informed

                        Pensions at home and abroad are not the same; they are much smaller.
                        "Many Israeli pensioners with Russian citizenship receive 5-6 thousand rubles from Russia, future retirees receive, minus the “fixed payment”, from 200 to 1,200 rubles, i.e. from 15 to 90 shekels a month."
                        Young man read more.
                        ONLINE VERY MUCH INFORMATION
                      7. ccsr 31 December 2019 17: 40 New
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                        In the years 60-70, Jews from the USSR were NOT released at all.

                        This is a lie - two teachers left with us in 1968-1970. to Israel, then our leadership was shaken, because one was allowed. They left for a sweet soul, so do not tell tales to those who lived or studied in Kiev at that time.

                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        But in Germany, only then began to receive Jews and many purposefully went there.

                        No at that time, the Germans did not invite Jews - they themselves, under various pretexts, dreamed of staying in Germany, and I know this very well. They began to sit on the German social group after the collapse of the USSR, when they began to present documents that they suffered during the Reich in the occupied lands and did not receive compensation, like the Jews in Israel.


                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        No, this is not a Jewish soul, this is a short memory.

                        Here I agree with you 100%. By the way, this irritated the Germans and very much, but they silently swallowed it, because the occupying forces still stood there. That is why hidden anti-Semitism has always been in Germany, and now it is already openly manifesting itself, and not only in Germany.

                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Young man read more.
                        ONLINE VERY MUCH INFORMATION

                        What the hell is the Internet - our employee’s aunt retired comes every few years, supposedly to visit relatives. But he doesn’t trust them to take off their pension - so tell your tales to another. By the way, now the minimum pension in Russia is above 8 thousand rubles, and in many regions and higher, you are simply not in the subject. And your citizens lie to you that they get only 5 thousand - apparently it's easier for them to knock a tear from gullible aborigines.
                      8. Vitaly gusin 31 December 2019 18: 06 New
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                        What the hell is the Internet

                        READ, READ AND READ AGAIN!
                      9. ccsr 31 December 2019 18: 28 New
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                        READ, READ AND READ AGAIN!

                        It’s better to understand for yourself that they haven’t believed in your lies for a long time, no matter how hard you try to pedal the topic of anti-Semism in Russia. By the way, both Negroes and Jews were not the indigenous inhabitants of Russia - why do you present this tragedy as important for us? Maybe it's better to teach them on American sites how they should behave in this matter?
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    And if this is not genocide, then what is gynocide?

    This is not Genocide, it is called Ethnic Cleansing. By the way, around the same period, Israel was forced to leave, according to various estimates, from 700 to 000 Arabs. What is it called?
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    Quote: ccsr
    Type in Iraqi or Persian Jews on Wikipedia and find out approximate data.

    How many Jews are left in the Arab countries?

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    Destroyed, you poorly know Hitler's theory of the Slavs, which is why you are considered dishonorable people, because you only scream about yourself at all angles.

    I know both theory and, most importantly, practice. Did the Russian Liberation Army annihilate the Russians for being Russians?

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    Lies - I already gave an example with Central Asia and the Caucasus.

    How many Russian churches were burned in Europe? IN USA? In Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan? In Central Asia?

    Quote: ccsr
    Apparently Russians get them less in real life.

    Apparently there is no Russophobia, CEP?

    Quote: ccsr
    We are well aware of this; we should not remind us.

    I decide what to remind and what not.

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    As it came to pass, that’s why we don’t call you for permanent residence, even if blacks start to cut you.

    To you we are not a foot. Enough with us.
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      How many Jews are left in the Arab countries?

      What difference does it make to us if you dream of Greater Israel and did everything so that as many Jews as possible can return to their historical homeland, and for this you are promoting an anti-Semitic topic.
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      . Did the Russian Liberation Army annihilate the Russians for being Russians?

      Traitors were not only with us - many Jews served in the Wehrmacht, who also exterminated Jews in other countries.
      Quote: Professor
      How many Russian churches were burned in Europe?

      Type in the search engine Serbia, Metohij, the destruction of Orthodox shrines and then find out. I’m not even talking about Ukrainian Catholics and Uniates - you probably don’t know anything about this.
      Quote: Professor
      Apparently there is no Russophobia, CEP

      Among the blacks, apparently not, but among you in large numbers is present.
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      To you we are not a foot. Enough with us.

      You can’t even imagine how glad we would be, but that’s not so and you know very well why. But slogans can continue to throw ....
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        What difference does it make to us if you dream of Greater Israel and did everything so that as many Jews as possible can return to their historical homeland, and for this you are promoting an anti-Semitic topic.

        How many Jews are left in the Arab countries?

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        Traitors were not only with us - many Jews served in the Wehrmacht, who also exterminated Jews in other countries.

        Name at least a dozen names of Jews in the Wehrmacht, Mr. Sovramshi.

        Quote: ccsr
        Type in the search engine Serbia, Metohij, the destruction of Orthodox shrines and then find out. I’m not even talking about Ukrainian Catholics and Uniates - you probably don’t know anything about this.

        I don’t need to send me to Google.
        How many Russian churches were burned in Europe?

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        Among the blacks, apparently not, but among you in large numbers is present.

        fool

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        You can’t even imagine how glad we would be, but that’s not so and you know very well why. But slogans can continue to throw ....

        Judenfray. Your dream comes true.
        1. ccsr 29 December 2019 14: 23 New
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          Name at least a dozen names of Jews in the Wehrmacht, Mr. Sovramshi.

          Contact the publishers of your newspaper:
          The Israeli newspaper Vesti published sensational material about 150 thousand Jewish soldiers and officers who fought in the Nazi army.

          Yes, and General Borukh Aronovich Steifon also distinguished himself:
          But the main thing: the Nazis had no doubt that Steifon would unquestioningly and ruthlessly pursue the military-political line of the German leadership in the Balkans. What they were not mistaken.

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          I don’t need to send me to Google.

          Do not know how to use or blocked? Try it in Yandex. Or send you even further?
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          Your dream comes true.

          If only you would not jinx it ...
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          Name at least a dozen names of Jews in the Wehrmacht, Mr. Sovramshi.

          Contact the publishers of your newspaper:
          The Israeli newspaper Vesti published sensational material about 150 thousand Jewish soldiers and officers who fought in the Nazi army.

          Name at least a dozen names of Jews in the Wehrmacht, Mr. Sovramshi.

          Quote: ccsr

          Do not know how to use or blocked? Try it in Yandex. Or send you even further?

          Rudeness from a big mind.

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          Your dream comes true.

          If only you would not jinx it ...

          Natsik's dream comes true. Judenfray.
        3. ccsr 29 December 2019 20: 51 New
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          Name at least a dozen names of Jews in the Wehrmacht, Mr. Sovramshi.

          Contact the German archives - there are personal cards of officers and soldiers of the Wehrmacht, and they will give you the names of those who were Jewish by nationality.
          Quote: Professor
          Rudeness from a big mind.

          I have long understood that people like you do not like the truth, because they are simply insolent from "Soviet proletarian internationalism," and now that we have democracy, we have the right to speak about Jews in the way historical facts tell us about it. Well, for example, how American Jewish financial capital provided economic support to Germany after Hitler came to power. But you don’t have enough intelligence to admit that gas stoves in Germany were built with American money, and that’s a fact.
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          Natsik's dream comes true.

          I am essentially a Soviet internationalist - I treat all nations, including Jews, the same way, which is why I don’t believe in your sobs, because I know all your troubles well. And as proof - I sincerely believe that the CPSU, of which I was a member, made a historic mistake by not allocating ships for free to send Soviet Jews to their historical homeland, but preventing them from leaving, instead of escorting everyone who wanted to leave with music and flowers.
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          Name at least a dozen names of Jews in the Wehrmacht, Mr. Sovramshi.

          Quote: ccsr
          I am essentially a Soviet internationalist - I treat all nations, including Jews, the same way, which is why I don’t believe in your sobs, because I know all your troubles well. And as proof - I sincerely believe that the CPSU, of which I was a member, made a historic mistake by not allocating ships for free to send Soviet Jews to their historical homeland, but preventing them from leaving, instead of escorting everyone who wanted to leave with music and flowers.

          Natsik's dream comes true. Judenfray.
        5. ccsr 30 December 2019 17: 05 New
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          Natsik's dream comes true. Judenfray.

          You are primitive in your thoughts and texts - this once again proves that the level of your argumentation above the iteric about anti-Semitism has never risen. Burn in the same spirit further, it amuses me and others.
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          Natsik's dream comes true. Judenfray.

          You are primitive in your thoughts and texts - this once again proves that the level of your argumentation above the iteric about anti-Semitism has never risen. Burn in the same spirit further, it amuses me and others.

          I am stating a fact. You stand for Russia without Judenfrey Jews. The dream of Natsik, not an internationalist.
        7. ccsr 30 December 2019 17: 50 New
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          I am stating a fact. You stand for Russia without Judenfrey Jews.

          I advocate for Russia without people with dual citizenship, both in legal terms and in moral terms - however, your primitive thinking does not surprise me anymore.
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          I will not feed you anymore. You are not interesting to me, and the Russian Federation will soon be a judenfrey, as you dream.
        9. littoral 30 December 2019 18: 53 New
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          I will not feed you anymore. You are not interesting to me, and the Russian Federation will soon be a judenfrey, as you dream.

          It is a pity that you needed so many comments from this person to understand that he is poor.
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          Quote: Professor
          I will not feed you anymore. You are not interesting to me, and the Russian Federation will soon be a judenfrey, as you dream.

          It is a pity that you needed so many comments from this person to understand that he is poor.

          Did I write all of them to him? The fact that he was a Natsik I understood right away. Judenfrey is his dream. I wrote for the rest.
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        I will not feed you anymore.

        Speckled, verbiage, you can immediately see that essentially you can not argue ...
  • saturn.mmm 29 December 2019 12: 37 New
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    In the occupied territories, the Russians lived not badly. I know this from the stories of survivors.

    Are you about those who went to the police?
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      In the occupied territories, the Russians lived not badly. I know this from the stories of survivors.

      Are you about those who went to the police?

      No. About those who worked at shipbuilding plants in Nikolaev. Do you think the Germans worked there?
      1. saturn.mmm 29 December 2019 16: 40 New
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        Do you think the Germans worked there?

        Do you think that the Germans served in the police under the Nazis?
        In gratitude, the inhabitants of Nikolaev, after the war, found the occupying rulers and hanged them.
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          Quote: Professor
          Do you think the Germans worked there?

          Do you think that the Germans served in the police under the Nazis?
          In gratitude, the inhabitants of Nikolaev, after the war, found the occupying rulers and hanged them.

          The police were not hanged. In Nikolaev hung only a dozen traitors, thousands of workers who worked (voluntarily) on the Germans did nothing. I personally communicated with such people. He was in shock. Then they became veterans. Benefits get.
          1. saturn.mmm 29 December 2019 22: 36 New
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            thousands of workers who worked (voluntarily) on the Germans did nothing.

            And they have little choice, they want to eat themselves and need to feed their family, in my city people worked on the railway.
            A couple of tragic examples of life under the occupation, the end of 43 started the 44th offensive of the Red Army, the village, the rivulet in the middle, on the one hand bunkers are installed from the other residents are driven out of the houses, houses are burned (in the yard is winter) for review. The village, the partisans near the village derail the train, the village is burned. This is what directly affected my parents.
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            And they have little choice, they want to eat themselves and need to feed their family, in my city people worked on the railway.

            So you already agree with me, otherwise you have attributed everyone to the "policemen". They didn’t work hard for Hitler. Units like my grandfather went to the partisans. Millions did nothing against the invaders. Jews, Gypsies, and Communists were cleaned out, and the rest mostly worked peacefully for themselves. Some hid the Jews, and the rest ...

            http://militera.lib.ru/research/kovalev_bn03/kovalev_bn03.html

            Quote: saturn.mmm
            A couple of tragic examples of life under the occupation, the end of 43 started the 44th offensive of the Red Army, the village, the rivulet in the middle, on the one hand bunkers are installed from the other residents are driven out of the houses, houses are burned (in the yard is winter) for review. The village, the partisans near the village derail the train, the village is burned. This is what directly affected my parents.

            This is when the front line came up, and when they were in the German rear, who touched them?
          3. ccsr 30 December 2019 17: 22 New
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            They didn’t work hard for Hitler. Units like my grandfather went to the partisans. Millions did nothing against the invaders. Jews, Gypsies, and Communists were cleaned out, and the rest mostly worked peacefully for themselves.

            I can’t say anything about the reasons for your grandfather’s departure for partisans, but the author of the book “Kerch on Fire”, who saw everything with his own eyes, described the behavior of some Jews in 1941.
            It is not surprising that in our city there were those who, without fear, possibly with unhealthy curiosity, expected the arrival of the Germans. Jewish families were no exception. I remember hearing conversations on such topics from my father and mother. Therefore, I call not fictitious surnames and non-invented facts, but real ones. On Proletarskaya Street, in the courtyard of house number 40, there lived a family of wealthy, naturally by our standards, Jews, named Thun. Having considerable cash, and hence opportunities, they were in no hurry to leave Kerch. My mother, being a house manager, having met the head of the mentioned family, asked such a usual question: “Why aren’t you evacuating? After all, can the Germans find you here? ” Thun replied to this: “Madame, I have been acquainted with the Germans in the eighteenth year! These are cultured people, not like our bosyavki! ” Oh, how naive this man was, so to speak about the Germans! How cruelly mistaken he was when he did not trust our mass media, which narrated colorfully enough about crimes committed against Jews! Among the Jews there were also such families who did not give too short wings to rise and fly away. They trusted the media, but even more trusted Thun.

            So who in this case was to blame - do not want to think about it?
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            How cruelly mistaken he was when he did not trust our mass media, which narrated colorfully enough about crimes committed against Jews!

            You do not know the history of your country. A shame.

            1. He was mistaken in trusting the Soviet newspapers, because they did not print any negative materials about Hitler until July 1941. He was a friend. The Germans took Kerch on November 1941. No sooner had Soviet propaganda informed the Jews of the atrocities of the Nazis in the occupied territory. Check the newspapers yourself.

            2. In your opinion, Jewish families could have taken and evacuated like this? How is CEP? Party workers and their families were subject to evacuation. My grandfather was a collective farm chairman and a communist. He was called to the front immediately after the outbreak of the war, as he was in reserve having won back to the Finnish. Grandmother achieved evacuation as a communist family. For months, she and her sisters, father, mother, and three young children traveled to Uzbekistan. Those who were not organizedly evacuated had no opportunity to evacuate. No one sold tickets at the box office. Everything for the front, everything for the victory. You could go on foot for a week, and then death from starvation. In stores, food is only on cards or rations for workers at the factory. So the talk of why this family decided to stay is the talk of the poor. Apart from my grandmother, none of her family could evacuate. I just couldn’t physically. About where, how and what the evacuated lived on is a separate conversation. You also have no idea about this.
            My other grandfather lived in Belarus and left for partisans for 17 years, but this is a different story.

            Quote: ccsr
            Among the Jews there were also such families who did not give too short wings to rise and fly away.

            The answer to this is higher.

            Quote: ccsr
            So who in this case was to blame - do not want to think about it?

            Thought more than once. The authorities, knowing what awaits their Jewish citizens, did not organize the evacuation of the Jews, and it was impossible to evacuate themselves. Anyway, evacuation plans (not of Jews) were ridiculous. The Germans took the line to which they planned to evacuate from the border strip in a week. Little blood, on foreign territory. Do you remember?
            But you only have to rejoice after all, the Germans embodied your personal dream-judenfrey.
          5. ccsr 30 December 2019 19: 13 New
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            You do not know the history of your country. A shame.

            Unlike you, I studied it not from Israeli propaganda materials, but from our domestic documents, so your verbiage will make me laugh again. However, this feature is characteristic of you and your "like-minded people."
            Quote: Professor
            He was mistaken in trusting the Soviet newspapers, because they did not print any negative materials about Hitler until July 1941. He was a friend.

            Again you are lying, because it was not so at all:
            The Soviet press was hostile to Germany until the signing of the non-aggression pact. Even in August 1939, anti-fascist materials appeared in the Soviet press. For example, on August 15, Pravda published a feuilleton, Cannibal Dictionary, about a German-Polish phrasebook for Wehrmacht soldiers.
            But immediately after the conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the tone of the Soviet press changed dramatically. Newspapers were full of phrases about the friendship and cooperation of the two great powers. But when the Germans attacked Poland, at first the fighting was covered in a neutral manner.

            So if your "naive" Thun for all your long life did not learn to distinguish propaganda from the true facts, then you should not then hang all the dogs on the Soviet media, especially since before 1939 they already described the atrocities of the Nazis in Spain - about Guernica you Of course you don’t know anything.
            Quote: Professor
            In your opinion, could Jewish families take and evacuate like this? How is CEP?

            Of course - as did many Jews who ended up in Tashkent.
            Quote: Professor
            My grandfather was a collective farm chairman and a communist.

            So what of this? My grandfather was also twenty-five thousandth, and he died in March1945. Once again you decided to speculate on our history, knowing that you have no arguments to explain why there was Bagerovsky ditch in Kerch and who was shot there.
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            The authorities, knowing what awaits their Jewish citizens, did not organize the evacuation of the Jews, and it was impossible to evacuate themselves.

            This is a mean lie, which is easily refuted by a huge number of photo and film materials of large columns of our refugees, who themselves, without any help from the state, went to the rear. Why should the state have been obliged to care only for Jews, if the Germans also destroyed the Russian people? Are you going to lie to us again about your “exclusiveness” and anti-Semitism of Russian people? By the way, fishing scows and boats were constantly cruising through the Kerch Strait at that time, and the distance there was about 4 km in a bottleneck, so that if you wanted you could cross to Taman a few months before the Germans arrived.
      2. saturn.mmm 30 December 2019 18: 22 New
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        This is when the front line came up, and when they were in the German rear, who touched them?

        When the Germans attacked the regular army, the people did not touch, there were even cases when children were fed. When the front moved on came the occupying forces and the people were not sweet, and when the partisans appeared the Germans began to atrocities.
        Quote: Professor
        They didn’t work hard for Hitler.

        At the Nikolaev plant, they may not have bothered, but in Belarus it was hard for the people. It was a very difficult time.
      3. Professor 30 December 2019 19: 18 New
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        When the Germans attacked the regular army, the people did not touch, there were even cases when children were fed. When the front moved on came the occupying forces and the people were not sweet, and when the partisans appeared the Germans began to atrocities.

        This is in Belarus and then not throughout. What partisans from the "forests" of Kherson and usury?

        Quote: saturn.mmm
        At the Nikolaev plant, they may not have bothered, but in Belarus it was hard for the people. It was a very difficult time.

        I know about Belarus from my grandmother. Grandfather was not verbose. But how I worked for Hitler in Nikolayevshchina struck me. About 11 million Soviet citizens remained in the occupied territories. Not everyone went underground and not all policemen. Most of them lived almost as before, if not better. Collective farms suddenly died. The famine was after the war.
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    Got it?

    Yes, you are just a professor of "lies."
    1. Bukhalov 29 December 2019 21: 59 New
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      Got it?

      Yes, you are just a professor of "lies."

      I apologize, but what is the lie? Opponent of Oleg, said about 150 thousand Jews who allegedly served in the Wehrmacht. Oleg suggested citing at least a dozen names. The opponent sent him to the Wehrmacht personnel department, obviously having in mind a completely different address. History knows the names of three half-breeds who served in the Wehrmacht. Moreover, all three mothers were German. In all three cases, the Germans conducted special official investigations. Private Werner Goldberg was kicked out of the army with a bang in 1940, although his father converted to Christianity before his marriage. Second Air Field Marshal Gerhardt Milch. During the check, the documents were falsified, with the filing of Goering, that the banker-father Milch was impotent. And the real father is a German baron. The third is Hitler-Morris driver. Hitler personally issued an order against him as an exception. So the opponent of Oleg skimps on the facts. He, if you use your terminology, “professor of lies.” The Germans are pedants, slaves of laws and regulations. In 1935, that is, 4 years before the start of WWII, a law was passed stating that Jews have no right to serve in the Wehrmacht. Not in any capacity. Of the 600 thousand Jews of the Reich, in Germany less than 10 thousand survived to the end of the war. 300 Jewish officers served in the Finnish army. Two were even presented for the highest award of the Reich. And both refused to receive it. The second argument of the opponent is generally ridiculous. About the fact that the departed Soviet Jews will return to Russia. And the opponent prays (and also a member of the CPSU) that this does not happen. Statistics say something else. So far, tens of thousands of citizens of the Russian Federation, not necessarily Russian, are trying to break into Israel by any illegal means and are sent en masse to their homeland, directly from Ben Gurion Airport. Only this year under 6000 souls. And most importantly, not a word on the topic of publication. But there was an attack on unarmed people. How does it differ from the bombings of residential buildings in Moscow, the attacks of Islamists in the same Moscow in the subway, airport? And it is gratifying that dozens of visitors to this thread wished for recovery for the victims, only a few tried to foment ethnic hatred. How Oleg’s opponent did it. And you supported him. Well, okay, the CPSU member will oppose. These guys are lying cool. Always. And Stalin is their father. And you, out of solidarity or what?
      1. ccsr 30 December 2019 17: 35 New
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        Opponent Oleg, said about 150 thousand Jews who allegedly served in the Wehrmacht.

        Do not distort - this is stated by the Israeli newspaper Vesti. And she took these
        materials from the author Shimon Briman, "Jewish soldiers of Hitler", which indicated this figure.
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        History knows the names of three half-breeds who served in the Wehrmacht.

        This lie is easily refuted by other sources:
        In January 1944, the Wehrmacht personnel department compiled a list of 77 high-ranking officers and generals "mixed with the Jewish race or married to Jewish women." Among them - 23 colonels, 5 major generals, 8 lieutenant generals and 2 full army generals. To this list you can add another 60 names of senior officers and generals of the Wehrmacht, aviation and navy, including 2 field marshals. It is believed that in the entire top of the Third Reich, only Goering did not have impurities of Jewish blood. Hundreds of Mishling were awarded Iron Crosses for their courage. 20 soldiers and officers of Jewish origin were awarded the highest military award of the Third Reich - the Knight's Cross.

        That is why
        The opponent sent him to the Wehrmacht personnel department,

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        Well, okay, the CPSU member will oppose. These guys are lying cool.

        No, you’re a miserable liar, trying again to give us your lies about unhappy Jews who allegedly did not serve in the Wehrmacht and did not participate in the destruction of Soviet people.
        Quote: Bukhalov
        And Stalin is their father.

        Stalin was the head of our state, who personally participated in the creation of the state of Israel, so you should pray for him and erect monuments to him. But the vile people are always short of memory - we know that ...
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        History knows the names of three half-breeds who served in the Wehrmacht.

        You are just an arrogant liar, because during the war years only fell into Soviet captivity:
        The number and national composition of prisoners of war in the USSR from the beginning of World War II (June 22, 1941) to the end of World War II (September 2, 1945) [1] (the titular nations of the main Axis countries are highlighted):
        .......
        Jews - 10.173
        ......
        Military History Journal, No. 9, 1990
    2. ccsr 30 December 2019 19: 17 New
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      Yes, you are just a professor of "lies."

      He is not even a professor of "lies", but a real academician of "lies", promoting it on forum sites.
      1. Professor 30 December 2019 19: 50 New
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        Quote: lucul
        Yes, you are just a professor of "lies."

        He is not even a professor of "lies", but a real academician of "lies", promoting it on forum sites.

        crying

        PS
        Tell us about 150 Jews in the Wehrmacht with a total Jewish population of 000. Sweat us.

        PPS
        With me $ 1000 if you name the name of the Jewish admiral mentioned by Hitler. It’s impossible to hide the admiral.
        1. ccsr 30 December 2019 21: 20 New
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          Tell us about 150 Jews in the Wehrmacht with a total Jewish population of 000.

          You do not take into account those Jews who were from other countries, and not just from Germany - they were called Heavis. You can check the data with Shimon Briman, he calculated this.
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          With me $ 1000 if you name the name of the Jewish admiral mentioned by Hitler.

          Yes, we know your Odessa jokes - in the USSR you were not allowed to leave for your historical homeland, and when Russia opened all the doors, it turned out that people like you were not going to leave, but they regularly accused Russian people of anti-Semitism. Well, who will contact such people, especially after you have chopped off the Palestinian lands, having cheated even against the UN?
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          It’s impossible to hide the admiral.

          It’s still possible to correct the nationality in the metric books, and only an examination can reveal what were the corrections, but which ones will be difficult to prove.
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            You do not take into account those Jews who were from other countries, and not just from Germany - they were called Heavis. You can check the data with Shimon Briman, he calculated this.

            I take into account. The question is how the Jews made up 15 divisions (FIFTEEN DIVISIONS) Wehrmacht with a Jewish population of 600? In Israel, with a population of 000, it is difficult to assemble an army of 6 bayonets ... How were only thousands of Hungarian Jews captured by the Wehrmacht for forced earthwork and their families were sent to Auschwitz? Where are the other prisoners, CEP? request

            Where did these Jews go after the war? After all, it would not be logical to assume that they all died? Suddenly they became Germans?

            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Professor
            With me $ 1000 if you name the name of the Jewish admiral mentioned by Hitler.

            Yes, we know your Odessa jokes - in the USSR you were not allowed to leave for your historical homeland, and when Russia opened all the doors, it turned out that people like you were not going to leave, but they regularly accused Russian people of anti-Semitism. Well, who will contact such people, especially after you have chopped off the Palestinian lands, having cheated even against the UN?

            $ 2000 from me. Admiral is not some sergeant. The book is about the whole Admiral. Name in studio.

            Quote: ccsr
            It’s still possible to correct the nationality in the metric books, and only an examination can reveal what were the corrections, but which ones will be difficult to prove.

            The booklet mentions a Jewish admiral. FULL NAME? wassat

            PS
            Have you read this little book yourself (a rhetorical question)? So what can you discuss? Go learn the materiel.
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            The question is, how did the Jews make up 15 divisions (FIFTEEN DIVISIONS) of the Wehrmacht with a Jewish population of 600?

            You poorly know the staffing of the Wehrmacht’s land divisions, and you deliberately overstate the number of divisions. In fact, we were talking about all the Jews from Europe and other countries who fought on the side of the Germans, and you deliberately speculate on the number of Germans living only in Germany, although this figure is doubtful.
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            How were only thousands of Hungarian Jews captured

            No need to juggle - those who were at war with the weapon in the Soron Germans or voluntarily worked in the Wehrmacht were captured.
            Quote: Professor
            $ 2000 from me. Admiral is not some sergeant. The book deals with the whole ADMIRAL.

            I admit that the author of the article only mixed up military ranks for the coastal units of the German fleet or some kind of reconnaissance structure. Have you heard anything about Canaris and his title?
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            Have you read this little book yourself (a rhetorical question)? So what can you discuss? Go learn the materiel.

            I read excerpts from it. And what does your “materiel” say about captured Jews who were in Soviet captivity - there are more than ten thousand of them? You somehow deftly faded from the discussion of this figure, and this already suggests that you are a professional liar.
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            You poorly know the staffing of the Wehrmacht’s land divisions, and you deliberately overstate the number of divisions. In fact, we were talking about all the Jews from Europe and other countries who fought on the side of the Germans, and you deliberately speculate on the number of Germans living only in Germany, although this figure is doubtful.

            What are the Jews of Europe? How many were in the Wehrmacht and from which countries? Provide the numbers.

            Regarding the "regular strength of the Wehrmacht's land divisions", wu are right. The Volkssturm division consisted of 8000 people, i.e. 19 (NINETEEN) Jewish divisions. After all, this was the only way to take every fourth Jew to the Wehrmacht, including infants and statues, or every second man, including infants and old people. Well, or form 9 (NINE) full Jewish infantry divisions. fool

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            No need to juggle - those who were at war with the weapon in the Soron Germans or voluntarily worked in the Wehrmacht were captured.

            All who fought in the Wehrmacht were captured. There were no unarmed people there. We are not talking about civilians, but VERMAHTA soldiers. Why were there not only captive Hungarians captured Jews?

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            I admit that the author of the article only mixed up military ranks for the coastal units of the German fleet or some kind of reconnaissance structure. Have you heard anything about Canaris and his title?

            You do not merge. The author of the article spoke about the admiral and the generals. The names of such high-ranking Jews in the Wehrmacht in the studio.

            Quote: ccsr
            I read excerpts from it. And what does your “materiel” say about captured Jews who were in Soviet captivity - there are more than ten thousand of them? You somehow deftly faded from the discussion of this figure, and this already suggests that you are a professional liar.

            You didn’t hold a book in your hands, but you could argue much. Tell us about the bibliography. What are the sources in it?
            I already wrote about Hungarian Jewish prisoners, so you are lying and you are lying. fellow
            How was captured only thousands of Hungarian Jews whom the Wehrmacht used for forced earthwork, and their families were sent to Auschwitz?
          4. ccsr 31 December 2019 17: 05 New
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            What are the Jews of Europe? How many were in the Wehrmacht and from which countries? Provide the numbers.

            You have already been provided with them - read the book:
            American professor of history Brian Rigg highlighted this topic in his book Jewish Hitler's Soldiers.


            Quote: Professor
            Regarding the "regular strength of the Wehrmacht's land divisions", wu are right. The Volkssturm division consisted of 8000 people, that is, 19 (NINETEEN) Jewish divisions.

            Do not fool people with the head of the "professor" of sour cabbage soup about the pre-war Wehrmacht:
            According to the staffing table (KStN), the division was supposed to have (excluding field reserve battalion): 518 officers, 102 officers, 2573 non-commissioned officers and 13667 soldiers. Thus, the total number of divisions was 16860 people.

            And where are 15 divisions recruited here?
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            Why were there not only captive Hungarians captured Jews?

            Why were Hungarian Jews worse than German Jews who fought in the Wehrmacht and why do you separate them?
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            . The author of the article spoke about the admiral and the generals. The names of such high-ranking Jews in the Wehrmacht in the studio.

            Accept, studio:
            Field Marshal Erhard Milch
            This is the most unique case in the Reich. Goering and Hitler, having examined the question of the field marshal’s nationality, decided to “consider” his uncle as Milch’s father. Count and that's it! As a result, he became a "purebred" German.

            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/ava/evrei-v-vermahte-5cd81aebfd8dc600af772437

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            I already wrote about Hungarian Jewish prisoners, so you are lying and you are lying.

            You simply lied in the manner that you are used to, and you thought that everyone would buy into your propaganda lie. But now there are so many documents open that to trust you is not to respect yourself. So read at least historical research, where it is documented that more than 10 thousand Jews were captured. And no matter how you dodge, but the fact that the Jews served in the Wehrmacht and destroyed the Soviet people you can not refute anything.
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            You have already been provided with them - read the book:
            American professor of history Brian Rigg highlighted this topic in his book Jewish Hitler's Soldiers.

            You're lying. No there about that. On which page is this written?

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            Do not fool people with the head of the "professor" of sour cabbage soup about the pre-war Wehrmacht:

            You are an ignoramus. The Volkssturm division consisted of 8000 people, i.e. 19 (NINETEEN) Jewish divisions. fool After all, this was the only way to take every fourth Jew to the Wehrmacht, including infants and statues, or every second man, including infants and old people. Well, or form 9 (NINE) full Jewish infantry divisions.

            Quote: ccsr
            And where are 15 divisions recruited here?

            How many divisions in the Wehrmacht out of 150 Jews? wink

            Quote: ccsr
            Why were Hungarian Jews worse than German Jews who fought in the Wehrmacht and why do you separate them?

            Where captured German Jews fought in the Wehrmacht? Why were only Hungarian Jews captured by the Red Army?

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            Accept, studio:
            Field Marshal Erhard Milch
            This is the most unique case in the Reich. Goering and Hitler, having examined the question of the field marshal’s nationality, decided to “consider” his uncle as Milch’s father. Count and that's it! As a result, he became a "purebred" German.

            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/ava/evrei-v-vermahte-5cd81aebfd8dc600af772437

            Money for fish again? This field marshal has already been discussed. His father is Aryan. This has been notarized by CEP. learn materiel. Where are the names of the admiral and generals? After all, there were a lot of them in the book. Just don't merge quickly. I have not fully entertained here. wassat

            Quote: ccsr
            You simply lied in the manner that you are accustomed to, and thought that everyone would buy into your propaganda lie. But now there are so many documents open that to trust you is not to respect yourself.

            For instance? Lay out at least one document confirming the presence of Jews in the Wehrmacht. Well, at least the smallest documentary? Come on?

            Can we look for links to documents in the book you mentioned that you yourself did not read? Are there any links there? wink A rhetorical question, isn't it? Indeed, in the book of a professor, historian there is always a bibliography. Links to archives, articles and so on. No?

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            So read at least historical research, where it is documented that only more than 10 thousand Jews were captured.

            Let's link to it documents. Laugh at you all over the forum.

            Quote: ccsr
            And no matter how you dodge, but the fact that the Jews served in the Wehrmacht and destroyed the Soviet people you can not deny anything.

            Facts? I didn’t see a single fact, Mr. liar. Only your fantasies and the link to the little book that you did not hold in your hands. You sat down in a puddle again.
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            On which page is this written?

            Look for yourself - I told you the source.
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            The Volkssturm division consisted of 8000 people, that is, 19 (NINETEEN) Jewish divisions.

            Do not wriggle - you, as an experienced thimble, grabbed a figure that is convenient for you, although any competent person judges by the divisions and their numbers, which were the vast majority in the Wehrmacht. Especially since you did not initially indicate the Volkssturm, i.e. what, by the standards of professionals, was a militia.
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            How many divisions in the Wehrmacht out of 150 Jews?

            Less than ten. But you, as an experienced thimble, “forget” that the Jews did not form divisions, and they served in different parts of the Wehrmacht, including the SS. So why your speculation about the number of people in the division, make it clear, a swindler.
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            Why were only Hungarian Jews captured by the Red Army?

            This is a lie, because the reports indicate “Jews” and not “Hungarian Jews”. By the way, what are they worse, you did not answer.
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            His father is Aryan.

            What about mother? And why did his uncle become his father, according to Hitler?
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            After all, there were a lot of them in the book.

            You also have cards in your hands - you are refuting the author, which means you have to prove that he lied, and I just brought some facts from the book. But you are not in a position to refute the author, and now you are in a pose, although it is already clear that you screwed up to the fullest, because you did not bring a single fact refuting the author. All your pretzel tricks about “show me the page” only finally convinced me that the author of the book did not lie, but did a serious study, which you cannot refute in any way.
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            Lay out at least one document confirming the presence of Jews in the Wehrmacht.

            You will find in the archives of the Wehrmacht - I told you where the personal cards of military personnel are stored. As for the captive Jews who served in the Wehrmacht, I gave you a link to the official journal of the USSR Ministry of Defense, what other proof do you need?
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            Facts? I didn’t see a single fact, Mr. liar.

            Captured Jews of the Wehrmacht not to be considered Jews, but to attribute them to the Papuans of New Guinea, according to your logic?
            Burn on, "academician" of lies ...
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            On which page is this written?

            Look for yourself - I told you the source.

            I was looking for. This is not there. You lied. You didn’t see this book in your eyes, how can you refer to it?

            You also lied that the author was allegedly a historian and professor. He is neither a historian nor a professor. I will write about him after.

            Quote: ccsr
            Do not wriggle - you, as an experienced thimble, grabbed a figure that is convenient for you, although any competent person judges by the divisions and their numbers, which were the vast majority in the Wehrmacht. Especially since you did not initially indicate the Volkssturm, i.e. what, by the standards of professionals, was a militia.

            You are an ignoramus. During World War II, there were 2 types of divisions in Germany: the Volkssturm division consisted of 2 people, that is, 8000 (NINETEEN) Jewish divisions. After all, this was the only way to take every fourth Jew to the Wehrmacht, including infants and old women, or every second man, including infants and old people. Well, or form 19 (NINE) full Jewish infantry divisions.

            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Professor
            How many divisions in the Wehrmacht out of 150 Jews?

            Less than ten. But you, as an experienced thimble, “forget” that the Jews did not form divisions, and they served in different parts of the Wehrmacht, including the SS. So why your speculation about the number of people in the division, make it clear, a swindler.

            Is less than ten one or nine? How many divisions could be formed from Jews serving in the Wehrmacht? Do not answer, do not.

            Quote: ccsr
            This is a lie, because the reports indicate “Jews” and not “Hungarian Jews”. By the way, what are they worse, you did not answer.

            The report does not indicate any Russian prisoners of war. On this basis, can we conclude that the Russians did not fight on the side of Hitler or not a single Russian was captured? Where did the 10 Hungarian prisoners who worked unarmed in forced labor in the Wehrmacht go?

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            His father is Aryan.

            What about mother? And why did his uncle become his father, according to Hitler?

            And his mother is German. You can’t swim in the material and try to argue with educated people. By golly.

            No uncle became his father. These are your next fantasies. His true father is Baron Von Beer. It is he who is recorded in the metric and the fact that his mother was married to a Jew for some time does not make her children from a German Jewish. Although it’s hard for you to understand.

            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Professor
            After all, there were a lot of them in the book.

            You also have cards in your hands - you are refuting the author, which means you have to prove that he lied, and I just brought some facts from the book. But you are not in a position to refute the author, and now you are in a pose, although it is already clear that you screwed up to the fullest, because you did not bring a single fact refuting the author. All your pretzel tricks about “show me the page” only finally convinced me that the author of the book did not lie, but did a serious study, which you cannot refute in any way.

            I asked not to merge, but you merged. I am talking with you, not with the author of the book. Is not it? And so give the names of the generals and admiral of the Jews who served with Hitler. The author described in detail the fate of Private Mayer, but for some reason he missed the generals and admiral. Don't you find it strange? Do not bring, do not.

            Regarding the "serious study" that you personally have not seen, I will answer below. Unlike I argue on subjects in which I understand.

            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Professor
            Lay out at least one document confirming the presence of Jews in the Wehrmacht.

            You will find in the archives of the Wehrmacht - I told you where the personal cards of military personnel are stored. As for the captive Jews who served in the Wehrmacht, I gave you a link to the official journal of the USSR Ministry of Defense, what other proof do you need?

            That is, you lied to not a single document you can provide and send me to look for them in the archive? And there were a lot of show-offs, show-offs. You are a small troll. laughing

            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Professor
            Facts? I didn’t see a single fact, Mr. liar.

            Captured Jews of the Wehrmacht not to be considered Jews, but to attribute them to the Papuans of New Guinea, according to your logic?

            Where are the facts? Where are the documents? Where is the full name? At least one fact indicating the service of 150 Jews in the Wehrmacht? Though the smallest fact? Begging on my knees? Pliz, pliz, pliz. wassat Just kidding. Do not.
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            I was looking for. This is not there. You lied. You didn’t see this book in your eyes, how can you refer to it?

            I didn’t read the book (I didn’t find it on the Internet), but why should I believe less in the person who read it and presented the facts from it than you, the famous liar?
            Quote: Professor
            He is neither a historian nor a professor. I will write about him after.

            You, too, do not even call anyone - even hide the name under a nickname, and the author of the book does not hide his face, and this inspires me with more confidence than you like verbiage.
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            You are an ignoramus. There were 2 types of divisions in Germany during World War II:

            Take it easy, miserable amateur - there were several types of divisions in the Wehrmacht, including cavalry, tank, etc. and they all had different numbers, so your thimble reception didn’t work, if only because Volkssturm did not fight in the USSR, but the Jews in the Wehrmacht divisions fought.
            Quote: Professor
            Do not answer, do not.

            That's right - your next nonsense is not worth commenting on.
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            Where did the 10 Hungarian prisoners who worked unarmed in forced labor in the Wehrmacht go?

            Hungary was an ally of Hitler, and if Hungarian Jews helped to destroy Soviet citizens and Jews, including, then what difference does it make to the final conclusion that the Jews fought on the side of the Nazis.
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            I am talking with you, not with the author of the book. Is not it?

            So I referred to the source, as you requested. And where are your refutations of this source? So far, I see only one lie about the work of the author of the book.
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            You are a small troll.

            You are a regular forum thimble that has not refuted a single fact from the author’s book and Soviet documents.
            Quote: Professor
            Where is the full name?

            General Borukh Aronovich Shteyfon - I have already brought him to you as a Wehrmacht general.
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            Begging on my knees?

            Familiar notes began, but you forgot that your “tears” here are unlikely to help refute Soviet statistics, which indicate that there were more than 10 thousand captured Jews, and a large number of them died or did not fight on the Eastern Front, which not surprisingly, knowing the "courage" of such people.
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          And now educational program. Not for you. I don’t teach judenfray lovers. This is for normal readers.

          B. M. Rigg is the author of the Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers - an untold story of Nazi racial laws and people of Jewish descent in the German army, The Life of Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, and Saved from the Reich. Type "Home Alone", Home Alone-2b and so on. Of course, he is neither a historian nor a professor. This "professor" has no scientific articles. He never taught and does not teach. He is an ordinary doctoral student who decided to become famous. It should be noted that he succeeded. Of course, his name is not so much publicized as the name of Monica Lewinsky, but he did not have a chance to get an appointment with Clinton, and he really wanted to become famous. Brown found a way. He published a libel about allegedly 150 Jews serving Hitler. The book made a lot of noise, but did not become a bestseller. He redid it 000 more times, but these books did not find even scandalous fame. I think it’s not worth mentioning that Rigg’s conclusions were ridiculed by historians, but received good feedback from Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis. They still cite this book trying to whitewash Hitler. Funded "research" the so-called "historian" land unions and regional partnerships of the HIAG organization (German: Hilfsgemeinschaft auf Gegenseitigkeit der Angehörigen der ehemaligen Waffen-SS (HIAG) Mutual Assistance Society of Former SS Members), as well as from the Foundation for Military Graves “When All Brothers Are Silent”, founded in 1993 (German: Kriegsgräberstiftung Wenn alle Brüder schweigen). Today in Germany they are conducting an investigation of this cooperation. That look also he will sit down with lovers of Judenfrey. By the way, an article on VO wrote that he was a citizen of Israel. There were publications that he served in Tsahal. It's not like that at all. He is not even a Jew, but a Baptist. Although if he were a Jew, the noise would have been even greater. Book sales would increase. He works not as a “professor” and not as a “historian,” but as a Private Wealth Manager at the bank. Looks like a Jewish conspiracy did not allow him to turn around in the historical field. And how many books could be written. For example, “Personal pensioner of the USSR A. Hitler” or “How Stalin took his friend Hitler to Moscow” and “Little-known facts about the life of the Hero of the USSR A. Hitler in 1950-1960 in the Gorki near Moscow”.

          Now about the book itself. It does not have a single reference to documents, there is no bibliography. That is not at all. You see, in this "serious study" funded by the Society for Mutual Assistance of former SS troops, there is no mention of a single document? Generally not a single one. That is zero point, zero point. The author has not visited any archives. Historian, his mother. But how did he write the book? And so: from his words, he learned German, took bike and began to travel around Germany (whose money we’ve already found out) and interview veterans of the Wehrmacht and SS. (I don’t understand why the bike? Does he have a driver’s license or didn’t have money for the train?) So he met (from his own words) with ATTENTION with 430 veterans. Four hundred and thirty in writing. Those told him that they allegedly know about 1 Wehrmacht soldiers who have Jewish blood. That is, not even Jews, but about those whose someone from their ancestors was a Jew, Mishling. For those who did not understand, they did not look at the documents, but asked: "In your opinion, Have you had any co-workers with Jewish blood?"? 430 veterans (why didn’t my grandfathers finish them?) Counted 1 of them. Not 700 and not 1, but 699. It is a pity he did not ask about Eichmann, because in his childhood the boys were teased by a Jew. And now for the fun part. Drums Fanfare. Drums again wassat . According to the methodology that he kept secret and the scientific community is still beating it as Fermat’s theorem, he made 1'700 Jews from 150 Mishlinge. That is, I multiplied by 000 and took away 100 and conducted an external initiation into Judaism for them. Well, at least half of them. Now I understand why they trampled him from the academy and did not advance further than the doctorate. But I don’t understand how his bank recruited with such abilities. Although the fact that since 20 he has not been working in the bank, he has turned to free counselors. That explains a lot.

          On this I am ceasing to feed you, a lover of judenfray. You are not interested, but all that I wanted to tell other readers I have already reported.
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          For those who didn’t understand, they didn’t look at the documents, but asked: “Do you think you had any colleagues with Jewish blood”? 430 veterans (why didn’t my grandfathers finish them?) Counted 1 of them. Not 700 and not 1, but 699.

          What do you want to prove? That Germans of Jewish origin did not serve in the Wehrmacht?
          Okay, set the Wehrmacht aside.
          But what about the armies of Finland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Croatia, Italy? Indeed, soldiers of Jewish origin served in these armies. And in the USSR, they fought.
          From June 22, 1941 to September 2, 1945, 10.173 prisoners of Jewish origin were captured by the Red Army. DIVISION! Even the captured Finns were fewer, 2.377 people. And these are only prisoners, but how many soldiers of Jewish origin died? And how many could get home?
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          For those who didn’t understand, they didn’t look at the documents, but asked: “Do you think you had any colleagues with Jewish blood”? 430 veterans (why didn’t my grandfathers finish them?) Counted 1 of them. Not 700 and not 1, but 699.

          What do you want to prove? That Germans of Jewish origin did not serve in the Wehrmacht?
          Okay, set the Wehrmacht aside.
          But what about the armies of Finland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Croatia, Italy? Indeed, soldiers of Jewish origin served in these armies. And in the USSR, they fought.
          From June 22, 1941 to September 2, 1945, 10.173 prisoners of Jewish origin were captured by the Red Army. DIVISION! Even the captured Finns were fewer, 2.377 people. And these are only prisoners, but how many soldiers of Jewish origin died? And how many could get home?

          About 300 people served in the Finnish army, but not for Hitler, but against the USSR. And the prisoners are Hungarian Jews whose families are in Auschwitz, and they themselves dig trenches with shovels under the supervision of machine gunners. even then they were captured in the Wehrmacht. Soviet prisoners of war were at the same jobs, but were not on the lists. Moreover, there are no Russian prisoners in the lists. Where are all the Vlasovites?
        5. D-ug 1 January 2020 16: 24 New
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          About 300 people served in the Finnish army

          And where did the Red Army turn out to be 10.173 prisoners of Jewish origin?
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          And the prisoners are Hungarian Jews whose families are in Auschwitz, and they themselves dig trenches with shovels under the supervision of machine gunners. even then they were captured in the Wehrmacht.

          Do not invent and do not distort. The Hungarian authorities did not send their citizens to Auschwitz. And Hungarians of Jewish origin were drafted into the Hungarian army for non-military service.
          True, in March 1944 the Germans occupied Hungary. And since then, much has changed. But until March 1944, no one Hungarians of Jewish origin in Hungary did not pursue.
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          even then they were captured in the Wehrmacht.

          This is nonsense. They were soldiers of the Hungarian army. And the Hungarian army was an ally of the Wehrmacht.
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          Moreover, there are no Russian prisoners in the lists. Where are all the Vlasovites?

          And where does the Vlasov people? They did not serve in the Hungarian army. And they did not serve in the Wehrmacht either.
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          And where did the Red Army turn out to be 10.173 prisoners of Jewish origin?

          I answered you in the post above.

          Quote: D-ug
          Do not invent and do not distort. The Hungarian authorities did not send their citizens to Auschwitz. And Hungarians of Jewish origin were drafted into the Hungarian army for non-military service.
          True, in March 1944 the Germans occupied Hungary. And since then, much has changed. But until March 1944, no one Hungarians of Jewish origin in Hungary did not pursue.

          You are either lying or do not own the information. Before the Germans arrived in March 1944, the Hungarian army and gendarmerie were noted, for example, in the Újvidék massacre. The Jews themselves were called in the so-called "labor army" (munkaszolgálat). Jews were used to repair bombed railways, build airports, or clean minefields at the front with bare hands. From 1942 to 1942, about 42 of these Jews died on the Eastern Front. Many died at the hands of Hungarian sergeants and officers. Such are the "soldiers of the Wehrmacht." About 000% died in Soviet prisoner of war camps. About 40 more died at the Bor copper mine in Serbia. I think there is no need to tell what happened with the arrival of the Germans in March 4000?
          https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/jews-of-hungary-during-the-holocaust.html
          That is where 10.173 captive of Jewish origin came from.

          Quote: D-ug
          This is nonsense. They were soldiers of the Hungarian army. And the Hungarian army was an ally of the Wehrmacht.

          Materiel. munkaszolgálat
          Jews have not been drafted into the Hungarian army since 1939.
          https://www.geni.com/projects/Hungarian-Labor-Service-Battalions/14800

          Quote: D-ug
          And where does the Vlasov people? They did not serve in the Hungarian army. And they did not serve in the Wehrmacht either.

          According to the same documents there was not a single Russian prisoner of war in the USSR. Not a single one at all. Note that they were not divided in statistics by nationality, but by nationality. They did not write “German citizens” or “Hungarian citizens”, but Germans, Jews, Hungarians and suddenly not a single Russian.
          Hungarian Jews did not serve in the Wehrmacht, but were munkaszolgálat.
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          You didn’t answer me anything. They limited themselves to some ridiculous chatter about Hungarian soldiers of Jewish origin who were captured by the Germans.

          Read carefully.

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          But Karl Flash, who just lived in Hungary during those years (he was born in Budapest, Hungary, in 1933, is Hungarian of Jewish origin, if that), claims to have been called up for military service in the army. And I somehow believe him more than you.

          Yah? Read more:
          http://www.hunghist.org/archive/83-articles/315-2015-3-szecsenyi

          Quote: D-ug
          Swarm trenches dead? Or participating in the hostilities of the Hungarian army died?

          Ask Karl Flash, he will tell you what munkaszolgálat is
          https://honvedelem.hu/hatter/munkaszolgalat-a-magyar-kiralyi-honvedsegben-1939-1945/


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          This is a great result. Of the Germans captured at Stalingrad, a few percent survived. Carefully the Bolsheviks belonged to Hungarians of Jewish origin.

          What are you flaunting? Not complying with the Geneva Conventions? Although how can you observe what you did not sign ...

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          That is where 10.173 captive of Jewish origin came from.

          Actually from here:
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0_%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8F_%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B

          From your quote: "highlighted are the titular nations of the major Axis countries." I’m embarrassed to ask, where were the Jews TITLE NATION? Is it really Israel? wassat
          And where are the Russian prisoners of war? Not a single one?

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          They did not write “German citizens” or “Hungarian citizens”, but Germans, Jews, Hungarians and suddenly not a single Russian.

          Not true. All were allocated by citizenship. And only Jews, Gypsies and French, by nationality. This is because in Soviet captivity it was more profitable to be a Jew than a Hungarian or Romanian. And it was more profitable to be a Frenchman (from Alsace) than a German

          This is called "data manipulation," CEP. These were identified by citizenship, and these by nationality? And what is the actual benefit if 40% of the captivity did not survive?

          Why is there not a single Russian? There is not a single citizen of the USSR? Where did the Armenians from the SS go? Bandera where? Moldovan is 14.129, but there are no Ukrainians?

          Further, according to your table, out of 2.388.443 German prisoners, 356.700 died in captivity, which is 14.9%. Your words "Carefully the Bolsheviks belonged to the Hungarians of Jewish origin"do not correspond to reality. Scoop treated the Germans more carefully. Jews (not holding arms and not fighting the USSR) died in captivity about 40%. It turns out it was better to be recorded by a German.
          Now the Hungarians themselves. 513.766 people were captured, 54.755 died in captivity, which is 10.6%. It turns out that Hungarian Jews just had to sign up as Hungarians and their chance of surviving in captivity would increase by 4 times. In your opinion, the Jews were fools and did not know where their benefit or scoop tortured Jews 4 times more than Hungarians or 3 times more than Germans? Such is your table.
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          You are tired of me with your verbiage.
          There are facts - 10.173 prisoners of Jewish origin were captured by the Red Army.
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0_%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8F_%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B
          How many more of them passed through the categories of “Finns”, “Hungarians”, “Romanians”, “Slovaks”, this is not known to anyone.
          How many of them died in battles with the Red Army, too, no one knows for sure. Although, I suspect, these data can be found on the Internet. How to find how many of them returned home from the war.

          You are not a reader, are you a writer?
          http://www.hunghist.org/archive/83-articles/315-2015-3-szecsenyi

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          Aaaaaaaaaa. There you are.

          You do not poke me. In one meadow geese were not grazed.

          Quote: D-ug
          Yes you are just a Scoundrel. I realized that soon the Russians would have to pay compensation to the relatives and friends of those Jews who, as part of foreign armies, fought against the USSR, were captured and died there.

          Someone used to write "Carefully the Bolsheviks belonged to Hungarians of Jewish origin", and after he poked his nose into the numbers he hit in hysteria. Be afraid. The Russians do not belong to the actions of the scoop and do not bear any responsibility.

          Learn the materiel: https://honvedelem.hu/hatter/munkaszolgalat-a-magyar-kiralyi-honvedsegben-1939-1945/
          This is far from a pro-Jewish source. Find there the Jews who "fought" against the USSR. Here is another photograph of these "warriors" under the supervision of Hungarian "comrades".


          Unanswered questions:
          1. What are you flaunting? Not complying with the Geneva Conventions?
          2. From your quote: "highlighted - title nation of the main Axis countries. "I’m embarrassed to ask, but where were the Jews TITLE NATION? Is it really Israel? wassat
          And where are the Russian prisoners of war? Not a single one?
          3. This is called "data manipulation", CEP. These were identified by citizenship, and these by nationality? And what is the actual benefit if 40% of the captivity did not survive?
          4. Why is there not a single Russian? There is not a single citizen of the USSR? Where did the Armenians from the SS go? Bandera where? Moldovan is 14.129, but there are no Ukrainians?
          5. Now the Hungarians themselves. 513.766 people were captured, 54.755 died in captivity, which is 10.6%. It turns out that Hungarian Jews just had to sign up as Hungarians and their chance of surviving in captivity would increase by 4 times. In your opinion, the Jews were fools and did not know where their benefit or scoop tortured Jews 4 times more than Hungarians or 3 times more than Germans?
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          All? Blown away?

          No, the “academician” of lies - it’s just that you were washed to the fullest, and all you have to do is run around the forums proving that the Jews did not fight in the Wehrmacht, but only got lost, although there are many facts proving this. By the way, Jewish organizations often cite the total number of Jews who died in World War II. Question to you on professional suitability - those Jews who fought in the Wehrmacht or in the armies of Hitler's allies, are also victims of the Holocaust, or did they themselves set up a holocaust for Soviet Jews? I would like you to answer directly, rather than wagging that you are below your back.
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    Moreover, there are no Russian prisoners in the lists. Where are all the Vlasovites?

    Vlasovites are former Red Army men who were not citizens of other countries, and therefore they went through other accounts and were convicted under other articles, which is why they were not indicated in this document. So enlighten, amateur, at least in these subtleties of Soviet office work.
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    What do you want to prove? That Germans of Jewish origin did not serve in the Wehrmacht?

    This is what he does, i.e. maliciously distorts the history of the Second World War in order to whitewash the Jews and their atrocities in the ranks of the army of Hitler and his allies in our territory, and the territory of other states.
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    To whitewash the Jews and their atrocities in the ranks of the army of Hitler and his allies in our territory, and the territory of other states.

    No, he has much more vile goals.
    He agreed already to the point that:
    - Jews, citizens of the Reich’s allies did not serve in these armies, but were “prisoners of the Wehrmacht” there (it is not clear why the Wehrmacht?).
    - since they did not serve in these armies, they did not have the right to take them captive of the Red Army (since they were non-combatants according to him).
    - but the Red Army illegally took them prisoner, where a certain number of Jews died (he claims that 40%).
    Those. these dead prisoners, they are not prisoners at all, but "victims of Bolshevism." With all the ensuing consequences.
    Even I, a principled anti-adviser, are freaking out from such INSULATION. It's the same as it is necessary to turn the whole course of events and distort to get to this!
  • ccsr 1 January 2020 18: 53 New
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    Now I understand why they trampled him from the academy and did not advance further than the doctorate.

    Of course they trampled on because he proved that the Jews served in the Wehrmacht, and if he had lied, he would have been sent to prison long ago at the suit of Zionist organizations. So your lie about the author’s identity has proved once again that you cannot refute a single fact from his book. Like this one, for example, which I found out about when I first read a book on your recommendation:
    Walter Hollander.
    In 1940, all officers who had two Jewish grandfathers or grandmothers were ordered to leave military service. Those who were “tarnished” by Jewry only from one of the grandfathers could remain in the army in ordinary positions. The reality was different - these orders were not executed. Therefore, they were unsuccessfully repeated in 1942, 1943 and 1944. There were frequent cases when German soldiers, driven by the laws of the “frontal brotherhood”, hid “their Jews” without giving them to the party and punitive bodies.
    .....
    Former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, Luftwaffe officer and grandson of a Jew, testifies: “Only in my air unit were 15 - 20 guys like me. I am convinced that Rigg’s deep immersion in the problems of German soldiers of Jewish origin will open up new perspectives in studying the military history of Germany in the XNUMXth century. ”
    Rigg alone documented 1200 examples of the Mishling service in the Wehrmacht — soldiers and officers with immediate Jewish ancestors. Thousands of these war veterans had 2300 Jewish relatives killed - nephews, aunts, uncles, grandfathers, grandmothers, mothers and fathers.

    http://indbooks.in/mirror7.ru/?p=304973
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    On this I am ceasing to feed you, a lover of judenfray. You are not interested, but all that I wanted to tell other readers I have already reported.

    Do not repeat, your mantras are unlikely to interest anyone.
  • Operator 1 January 2020 22: 36 New
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    Jews at all times were extremely practical: hundreds of thousands served in the Wehrmacht, tens of thousands - in the Hungarian army on the Eastern Front, now marginal Jews are working in hickey with Bandera, Polish rabbis with foam on their lips are trying to oust the anti-Semitic Polish authorities of the 1930s, the local "professor" inspires with disinformation the non-participation of European Jews in the war on the side of Hitler.

    In connection with such wildest indifference of Jews to the death of their fellow tribesmen, it’s time for us to stop pedaling the so-called "Holocaust" (4 million victims) and remember only the deaths of 27 million of our fellow citizens in WWII.
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    remember only the deaths of 27 million of our fellow citizens in WWII.

    42 million fellow citizens. 19 million military personnel and 23 million civilians.
    By the way, millions of Jews are also included in the 42 million dead.
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    I say fellow citizens (12 million military and 15 million civilian).
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    fellow citizens (12 million military and 15 million civilian).

    You have outdated data Back in 2017, the data of the USSR State Planning Committee was declassified. 42 million fellow citizens. 19 million military personnel and 23 million civilians.
  • ccsr 2 January 2020 13: 14 New
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    Back in 2017, the data of the USSR State Planning Commission were declassified. 42 million fellow citizens.

    Could you give a link to this document?
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    http://polkrf.ru/news/1275/parlamentskie_slushaniya_patrioticheskoe_vospitanie_bessmertnyiy_polk/
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    Quote: D-ug
    http://polkrf.ru/news/1275/parlamentskie_slushaniya_patrioticheskoe_vospitanie_bessmertnyiy_polk/

    Firstly, this is the site of a public, not a state organization, and the fact that “public men” will scam there does not mean that they used official documents and this is an official government statement. And the text you are quoting is not subject to any documents, and is not a document, but only someone’s opinion:
    According to declassified data from the USSR State Planning Commission, the losses of the Soviet Union in World War II amount to 41 million 979 thousand, and not 27 million, as previously thought.

    http://polkrf.ru/news/1275/parlamentskie_slushaniya_patrioticheskoe_vospitanie_bessmertnyiy_polk/
    Maybe it’s not worth speculating with this text, but is it better to bring these very "declassified data", or at least its scans? By the way, the very word "data" already speaks to experts about the quality of the one who wrote this text, so take the trouble to present at least something serious.
    So it doesn’t matter, you seem to be one of those simpletons who believe in Yakovlevism ....
  • D-ug 2 January 2020 17: 52 New
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    Firstly, this is the site of a public, not a state organization

    Do not twist. Everything is written there. Clearly and unequivocally.
    On February 14, the State Duma held parliamentary hearings “Patriotic education of Russian citizens:“ Immortal Regiment ”. Deputies of the State Duma, co-chairs of the All-Russian public movement “Immortal Regiment of Russia” and representatives of other public organizations discussed the importance of patriotic education for citizens of the country.

    The event was organized by the State Duma Committee on Education and Science in conjunction with the Defense Committee and the Committee on Labor, Social Policy and Veterans Affairs.

    The parliamentary hearings were attended by State Duma deputies, members of the Federation Council, representatives of legislative and supreme executive bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation, public associations, organizations of foreign compatriots .

    None of the questions participating in the hearings on the new figures of Soviet losses (according to the declassified data of the USSR State Planning Committee) raised questions.
    But you and I are more familiar with the real state of affairs.
    However, I still believe the numbers voiced at the hearing. Because after that they became NEW OFFICIAL. And the questions of “faith” are not necessary here - it is clearly and unequivocally indicated, this is the SECRET DATA of the USSR GOVERNMENT PLAN.
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    Do not twist. Everything is written there. Clearly and unequivocally.

    For amateurs - yes, but for those who are seriously studying the history of the Second World War, this is just the opinion of an unknown author who was even afraid to leave his signature under the text.
    Quote: D-ug
    None of the questions participating in the hearings on the new figures of Soviet losses (according to the declassified data of the USSR State Planning Committee) raised questions.

    And who told you that we have a country of high literacy and people who know our history participated in the hearings? It was a high level of literate people in the USSR, and now victims of the USE already teach those who know the history of the Second World War better than they do.
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    But you and I are more familiar with the real state of affairs.

    Indeed, this is true, if only because for many decades I have been interested in the history of our country, especially its Soviet triumphal period.
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    clearly and unambiguously indicated, this is the SECRET DATA of the USSR GOVERNMENT PLAN.

    By what official and in what state document is this figure fixed - name at least these two sources of information so that you are taken seriously and not considered a balabol.
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    and for those who are seriously studying the history of the Second World War

    The Second World War ended on September 24.09.1941, XNUMX, Mr. "a serious researcher."
    08.05.1945/2/XNUMX ended XNUMXMB in Europe.
    Quote: ccsr
    It was a high level of literate people in the USSR

    Rave. The country of total illiteracy and incompetence.
    These same "literate people" were charging cans of water near the TV.
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    if only because for many decades I have been interested in the history of our country

    I see how interested you are. You don’t even know when the Second World War ended and the USSR entered WW2.
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    By what official and in what state document is this figure fixed

    Do not engage in verbiage.
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    The Second World War ended on September 24.09.1941, XNUMX, Mr. "a serious researcher."
    08.05.1945/2/XNUMX ended XNUMXMB in Europe.

    Honestly, I haven’t heard anything about the draft of the Jews in the Japanese army, so the poet limited himself to the May period of 1945. Can you tell me how many Jews were among the kamikaze to finally take stock, how many fought against the USSR and allies?
    Quote: D-ug
    Rave. The country of total illiteracy and incompetence.

    Judging by your superficial knowledge, you are clearly a product of non-Soviet education, so do not hait something that you have not yet grown up to.
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    I see how interested you are. You don’t even know when the Second World War ended and the USSR entered WW2.

    Before you begin to be clever, tell us how many Jews from the Japanese army fell into our captivity, so that everyone understands what kind of "expert" you have during the war.
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    Do not engage in verbiage.

    How easy it is to lower you to the ground and show that you are an amateur in matters of history - you cannot even indicate a reliable source of information, but already teach others who to believe and who not.
    PS Hack it on your nose - the Second World War did not end on September 24.09.1941, 9, as you say, but on May 1945, XNUMX, because Japan did not attack us, and this World War II period in Soviet historiography does not apply to the Great Patriotic War even from the point of view of that the Soviet Union itself declared war. Teach materiel, amateur - only those who attacked us, and not when we declared war ourselves, can be ranked as World War II.
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    42 million fellow citizens.

    Just do not lie - there was no such figure. By the way, and 27 million dead are still not exactly confirmed by all archives. As a simple example, my grandfather, who died in 1945 in Poland, was noted in different documents under three different surnames, because one letter changed. And this I found out myself, a break many scans, including the site "Feat of the people." That's why you need to be cautious even about official information, and your nonsense about 42 million of memorial tales in general is beyond reasonable limits, and not a single sane person will believe them.
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    http://polkrf.ru/news/1275/parlamentskie_slushaniya_patrioticheskoe_vospitanie_bessmertnyiy_polk/
  • svp67 29 December 2019 12: 38 New
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    Are there any cases of murder or at least an attack on someone outside the territory of the Russian Federation due to the fact that he is Russian by nationality?

    Alas, in Ukraine.
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    Are there any cases of murder or at least an attack on someone outside the territory of the Russian Federation due to the fact that he is Russian by nationality?

    Maybe it's worth watching not only Israeli television?
    Take Central Asia - a sample of 1992, and a century ago there was also a massacre ....
    1. avib 29 December 2019 13: 30 New
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      Maybe it's worth watching not only Israeli television?
      Take Central Asia - a sample of 1992, and a century ago there was also a massacre ....

      Israeli television does not devote almost any attention to the Russian Federation - this is a fact.
      I actually meant the present, and not 30 years ago. 30 years ago there were no attacks on Jews and synagogues in the USA ... and, in principle, nowhere else.
      As for Central Asia, 30 years ago - in my opinion, it is not regrettable - people died, it was not Russophobia, but xenophobia - all the "non-local" - in this case, Russian-speaking - not only Russians were among the distribution. Moreover, then the state of the Russian Federation did not exist yet.
      I can’t catch it at all - why do you stubbornly call Russophobia a negative attitude towards the current Russian government and its policies from other states? hatred of the Russians. As a matter of fact, everyone treats Russians more than positively - as a people, a bearer of culture and history. Does the entire Russian people identify with the current Russian government? Even those who live abroad?
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        I can’t catch it at all - why do you stubbornly call Russophobia a negative attitude towards the current Russian government and its policies from other states? hatred of the Russians.

        Do not be cunning - you know very well that the current government is only an excuse, because you did not like our power under the tsar, or under the general secretaries, or under the democrats, so you use this to cover up your Russophobia, and nothing more. It is strange why you hope that we will buy your demagoguery ....
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        Everyone is just more than positive towards Russians

        Lies, and Ukrainians, like Jews, have proven this in practice.
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          Quote: avib
          I can’t catch it at all - why do you stubbornly call Russophobia a negative attitude towards the current Russian government and its policies from other states? hatred of the Russians.

          Do not be cunning - you know very well that the current government is only an excuse, because you did not like our power under the tsar, or under the general secretaries, or under the democrats, so you use this to cover up your Russophobia, and nothing more. It is strange why you hope that we will buy your demagoguery ....
          Quote: avib
          Everyone is just more than positive towards Russians

          Lies, and Ukrainians, like Jews, have proven this in practice.

          Leave the Ukrainians. The current negative attitude of Ukrainians towards Russia as a state and to the Russian authorities (not to Russian people) on the part of Ukrainians is easily explainable - we will be honest, and this, apparently, is a very long time.
          But with what did you salify the Jews this time and at this temporary stage? There are less and less of them in the Russian Federation. Another generation, a maximum of two and not at all.
          Or maybe you mean "world Jewry"?
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            Leave the Ukrainians. The current negative attitude of Ukrainians towards Russia as a state and to the Russian authorities (not to Russian people) by the Ukrainians is easily explained

            And how do you personally explain this?
            Quote: avib
            we will be honest and this, apparently, is a very long time.

            This is none of the sane people and does not deny that Russia does not have the opportunity to revive the Gulag in order to send all Bandera to re-education.
            Quote: avib
            But with what did you salify the Jews this time and at this temporary stage?

            Well, at least by the fact that because of some Negro and Jew from the synagogue, a universal tragedy was inflated, so much so that even on a purely Russian military resource, people like you started screaming again - “Guard, anti-Semitism everywhere!” . And how do you want after that treats you?
            Quote: avib
            There are less and less of them in the Russian Federation.

            I will not say that we are very saddened, so this does not scare us.
            Quote: avib
            Or maybe you mean "world Jewry"?

            You will discuss it with your fellow tribesmen in Great Israel, we are not as interesting with your ideas as you would like.
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              Leave the Ukrainians. The current negative attitude of Ukrainians towards Russia as a state and to the Russian authorities (not to Russian people) by the Ukrainians is easily explained

              And how do you personally explain this?

              Don’t you even guess?
              I’ll hint: Crimea and Donbas, rabid anti-Ukrainian propaganda on TV.
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                Don’t you even guess?

                I guessed who you work for.
                Quote: avib
                I’ll hint: Crimea and Donbas, rabid anti-Ukrainian propaganda on TV.

                Complete garbage - you sucks understood Putin’s Munich speech, that's where the legs grow from. And Crimea and Donbass is just an excuse, but you and others like you will never think of such a thing, so I don’t hint at you, but state that this is a fact. By the way, have you heard anything about the restrictions of KOKOM or Jackson-Venik, and when did they appear?
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        Quote: avib
        Quote: lucul
        Maybe it's worth watching not only Israeli television?
        Take Central Asia - a sample of 1992, and a century ago there was also a massacre ....

        Israeli television does not devote almost any attention to the Russian Federation - this is a fact.
        I actually meant the present, and not 30 years ago. 30 years ago there were no attacks on Jews and synagogues in the USA ... and, in principle, nowhere else.
        As for Central Asia, 30 years ago - in my opinion, it is not regrettable - people died, it was not Russophobia, but xenophobia - all the "non-local" - in this case, Russian-speaking - not only Russians were among the distribution. Moreover, then the state of the Russian Federation did not exist yet.
        I can’t catch it at all - why do you stubbornly call Russophobia a negative attitude towards the current Russian government and its policies from other states? hatred of the Russians. As a matter of fact, everyone treats Russians more than positively - as a people, a bearer of culture and history. Does the entire Russian people identify with the current Russian government? Even those who live abroad?

        38 years ago there was a whole massacre between Jews and blacks in the States. A Jew shot a black robber in LA - and away we go
        Like, and you live so well, you also shoot our miserable, oppressed guys
  • Vladimir_6 29 December 2019 12: 47 New
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    In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.

    This is because in the world community there is an opinion that Russophobia is "everyday life."
    And anti-Semitism is a crime against humanity.
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    The hotbeds of anti-Semitism today are universities. "The excess of liberalism."

    Explain your point. I believed that anti-Semitism is just one of the symptoms of illiteracy.
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      Far from necessary
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      Quote: Professor
      The hotbeds of anti-Semitism today are universities. "The excess of liberalism."

      Explain your point. I believed that anti-Semitism is just one of the symptoms of illiteracy.

      Woe from the mind.
      Today, American liberals are ultra-left and blame capitalism, business, and, accordingly, Jews. And recently, BiDiS has also begun to support and sympathize with the Fylystyns.
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        Today, American liberals are ultra-left and blame capitalism, business, and, accordingly, Jews.

        How far from each other, American and Russian (God forgive me) liberals. The Russian liberal believes in capitalism as a dear mother, serves business and very often (this is most likely just a coincidence) Jew.
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        Today, American liberals are ultra-left and blame capitalism, business, and, accordingly, Jews.

        And who opened their eyes to them? )))
        Professor, I won’t be surprised if this trend spreads to the whole Western World and mass pogroms begin, if not worse. Israel will not stand on the map.
        Well, you know where to run, in which case - and Putin reminded you ...
        Russians are good people, they don’t remember evil.
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          Quote: lucul
          Today, American liberals are ultra-left and blame capitalism, business, and, accordingly, Jews.

          And who opened their eyes to them? )))
          Professor, I won’t be surprised if this trend spreads to the whole Western World and mass pogroms begin, if not worse. Israel will not stand on the map.
          Well, you know where to run, in which case - and Putin reminded you ...
          Russians are good people, they don’t remember evil.

          laughing
          M-for, from the Jews of Russia there was a lot of evil - starting with Karla Marla ...))
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          Well, you know where to run, in which case - and Putin reminded you ...
          Russians are good people, they don’t remember evil.

          Well, no, dear, although I agree with you about our people, but it’s better to give them another globe to search for a better country where Russia is not indicated.
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    Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less.

    Sound the reasons for anti-Semitism? wink
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      1. Siberia 75 29 December 2019 12: 19 New
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        Look at yourself personally in the mirror and answer the question about your personal anti-Semitism.

        Professor, apologize for some of the VO visitors who really, often minus "in fact"without even reading your comments. There is a clear minority, they are simply more noticeable in pots.
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          I’m just reading. And moreover, carefully. And do not apologize for me to any Russophobe who, in addition to everything else, does not know how to answer for his allegations.
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        Dear Professor, after all, anti-Semitism is not a Russian invention at all ... it seems to have been from the time of the Pharaohs ... I am personally interested in the roots of the phenomenon, but an objective review cannot be found; everywhere or emotion or conspiracy theology or both plus seasoning.
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          Dear Professor, after all, anti-Semitism is not a Russian invention at all ... it seems to have been from the time of the Pharaohs ... I am personally interested in the roots of the phenomenon, but an objective review cannot be found; everywhere or emotion or conspiracy theology or both plus seasoning.

          No, anti-Semitism is not a Russian invention. The Russian word "pogrom" has entered many languages ​​of the world. Many books have been written about the origins of anti-Semitism, both by Jews and by goyim. (not Jews). I don’t even know what to recommend to you for reading. request
  • Ross xnumx 29 December 2019 10: 03 New
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    Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA.

    What are you saying ... Ah! I forgot - besides Semitism in the USA there is Russophobia, but in Russia it is not ... request One solid Semitism ... wassat
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 December 2019 10: 03 New
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    Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA. On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.
    The hotbeds of anti-Semitism today are universities. "The excess of liberalism."

    Can you give examples? About "allow" and about the "nurseries".
    Or do you, as an unfounded demagogue, react to uncomfortable questions with just a dumb minus?
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      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
      Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA. On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.
      The hotbeds of anti-Semitism today are universities. "The excess of liberalism."

      Can you give examples? About "allow" and about the "nurseries".
      Or do you, as an unfounded demagogue, react to uncomfortable questions with just a dumb minus?

      Take a show of children in the kindergarten, this time.
      I can tell you about the statements of the dancer Zakharova, about the "lovers" of the Jews and much more. What exactly are you interested in? These are two.
      Nurseries ... https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/anti-semitism-on-campus/. These are three.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 December 2019 11: 15 New
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        And based on your examples, do you conclude that there is more anti-Semitism in Russia than in America?
        I did not claim that in the Russian Federation there is no anti-Semitism at all.
        In the Russian Federation more than in the USA. On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.
        The hotbeds of anti-Semitism today are universities.

        You claim that there is more anti-Semitism in the Russian Federation. According to the logic, it follows that by nurseries you mean universities in the Russian Federation. Since you started with the Russian Federation.

        Are you really a professor?
        What do you teach and where?
        If not, why did you choose such an alias?
        1. Professor 29 December 2019 11: 22 New
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          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          And based on your examples, do you conclude that there is more anti-Semitism in Russia than in America?
          I did not claim that in the Russian Federation there is no anti-Semitism at all.

          1. I can draw such a conclusion from personal experience.
          2. You can look at the number of Jews in the United States and the Russian Federation, the number of synagogues, Jewish organizations and further down the list. After 20 years, not a single Jew will remain in the Russian Federation. From a good life.

          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          You claim that there is more anti-Semitism in the Russian Federation. According to the logic, it follows that by nurseries you mean universities in the Russian Federation. Since you started with the Russian Federation.

          No. In Russia, anti-Semitism is everywhere, and not just on campuses.
          https://www.chosenpeople.com/site/the-rise-of-antisemitism-on-north-american-university-campuses/

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          Are you really a professor?

          Not true.

          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          What do you teach and where?

          Nothing anywhere else.

          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          If not, why did you choose such an alias?

          It's not me. That's for me.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 December 2019 11: 51 New
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            I do not share your position, but I understand it.
            Thanks for answers.
          2. Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 12: 06 New
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            Quote: Professor
            2. You can look at the number of Jews in the United States and the Russian Federation, the number of synagogues, Jewish organizations and further down the list. After 20 years, not a single Jew will remain in the Russian Federation. From a good life.

            You are some kind of anti-professor. I mean, don't be friends with logic.
            1) As far as I remember, the whole life of the Jews sought to where you can quickly cut down the gesheft. In Russia, this is only possible upstairs. That is why the higher the social status, the higher the percentage of Jews. The oligarchs in Russia are almost all Jews. Among the people (thanks to the wise policies of the protege of the oligarchs) there are really few Jews.
            2) there is no need to make a fuss about synagogues - almost every city has a synagogue. And there are few of them because there are not so many Jews.
            3) And the most important test for the presence of mind Oleg - is there at least one country in the world an analog of our EAO? wink
            P.S. Anti-Semitism is a consequence, not a cause.
            1. Professor 29 December 2019 12: 42 New
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              The usual reasoning of anti-Semite.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              1) As far as I remember, the whole life of the Jews sought to where you can quickly cut down the gesheft.

              For example, in Palestine, where it was necessary to build Israel from scratch, fighting off nomad raids. What is gesheft? fool

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              In Russia, this is only possible upstairs. That is why the higher the social status, the higher the percentage of Jews. The oligarchs in Russia are almost all Jews. Among the people (thanks to the wise policies of the protege of the oligarchs) there are really few Jews.

              1. List of oligarchs in the studio.
              2. Miles, Gurevich, Khariton, Alferov, etc. also cut down the gesheft? I think in the US they shone more.

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              2) there is no need to make a fuss about synagogues - almost every city has a synagogue. And there are few of them because there are not so many Jews.

              In almost every city? In the town in which the massacre took place today, only 22 people live. How many cities do you have with a population of 000, where there are synagogues? How many were there when millions of Jews lived in the scoop?

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              3) And the most important test for the presence of mind Oleg - is there at least one country in the world an analog of our EAO?

              An analogue of national education, where does this nationality make up only 1% of the population? No, there is no such circus anywhere else in the world.

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              P.S. Anti-Semitism is a consequence, not a cause.

              So you personally why anti-Semite?
          3. ccsr 29 December 2019 12: 11 New
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            After 20 years, not a single Jew will remain in the Russian Federation. From a good life.

            So, after twenty years, they will not remain in Israel, as the Israelis themselves predict, relying on the growth of another Semitic branch - the Arab in this state. What are your complaints then if homosexuality in Israel is a problem of population growth?
            By the way, I personally do not believe that there will be no Jews in the Russian Federation - they are already buying up housing and preparing for a return aliyah, so your statement is a myth.
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              So, after twenty years, they will not remain in Israel, as the Israelis themselves predict, relying on the growth of another Semitic branch - the Arab in this state.

              Not true. Fertility among Jews is higher than among Arabs.

              Quote: ccsr
              What are your complaints then if homosexuality in Israel is a problem of population growth?

              Not true. Homosexual couples in Israel have children.

              Quote: ccsr
              By the way, I personally do not believe that there will be no Jews in the Russian Federation - they are already buying up housing and preparing for a return aliyah, so your statement is a myth.

              Not true. Dissatisfied Jews travel to North America. By the way, the Russian Federation leads in the number of returnees. https://detaly.co.il/repatriatsiya-v-izrail-rastet-za-schet-olim-iz-rossii/
              1. ccsr 29 December 2019 13: 34 New
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                Not true. Fertility among Jews is higher than among Arabs.

                Especially with your orthodox. But they themselves have already bothered you with the fact that you have to maintain them. But I am happy for you - there will be someone to fight against Muslim terrorists, we hope for you.
                Quote: Professor
                Not true. Homosexual couples in Israel have children.

                Natural way? I did not expect medicine to advance so well in Israel ...
                Quote: Professor
                Dissatisfied Jews travel to North America.

                Where hospitable blacks with a machete are waiting for them. But in principle, this does not play a role for us, but it scares that too few Jews will remain in Israel. Who then will fight against Muslim terrorism?
                1. Professor 29 December 2019 13: 58 New
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                  Especially with your orthodox. But they themselves have already bothered you with the fact that you have to maintain them. But I am happy for you - there will be someone to fight against Muslim terrorists, we hope for you.

                  And here you are completely off topic. Among orthodoxes, the birth rate is steadily declining, among secular ones it is growing.

                  Quote: ccsr
                  Natural way? I did not expect medicine to advance so well in Israel ...

                  Adoption and surrogate “materialism” are now natural ways of having children.

                  Quote: ccsr
                  Where hospitable blacks with a machete are waiting for them. But in principle, this does not play a role for us, but it scares that too few Jews will remain in Israel. Who then will fight against Muslim terrorism?

                  Israel is a free country and does not hold anyone.
                  1. ccsr 29 December 2019 14: 10 New
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                    Quote: Professor
                    And here you are completely off topic. Among orthodoxes, the birth rate is steadily declining, among secular ones it is growing.

                    With this ratio, you will have to wait a long time for them to at least compare:
                    the growth of the Jewish population of Israel is mainly due to the extremely high birth rate among ultra-Orthodox (6,5 children per woman), while among secular Israelis the TFR is 2,1.

                    Quote: Professor
                    surrogate "materialism" is now the natural way of instituting children.

                    And this is joyfully perceived by your orthodox.
                    Quote: Professor
                    Israel is a free country and does not hold anyone.

                    No, you better keep them, otherwise we have no one else to hope for in the fight against terrorism.
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    With this ratio, you will have to wait a long time for them to at least compare:
                    the growth of the Jewish population of Israel is mainly due to the extremely high birth rate among ultra-Orthodox (6,5 children per woman), while among secular Israelis the TFR is 2,1.

                    You have very old data.
                    https://hazazello.livejournal.com/2409.html

                    Quote: ccsr
                    And this is joyfully perceived by your orthodox.

                    The main commandment of Judaism is "pru u moat" (be fruitful and multiply).

                    Quote: ccsr
                    Israel is a free country and does not hold anyone.

                    No, you better keep them, otherwise we have no one else to hope for in the fight against terrorism.

                    Israel is a free country and does not hold anyone.
                  3. ccsr 29 December 2019 20: 40 New
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                    You have very old data.

                    I do not think that they are very outdated. However, to avoid the flight of Jews from Israel, you will not draw such statistics.
                    Quote: Professor
                    The main commandment of Judaism is "pru u moat" (be fruitful and multiply).

                    And how do your homosexuals and lesbians help you with this?
                    Quote: Professor
                    Israel is a free country and does not hold anyone.

                    Hold tight, we do not believe your promises, because you are too big masters to throw gullibles, and we have fewer and fewer of them.
                  4. Professor 30 December 2019 08: 49 New
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                    I do not think that they are very outdated. However, to avoid the flight of Jews from Israel, you will not draw such statistics.

                    I showed you more accurate data. There is data from the end of 2019.
                    There is an escape from Russia to Israel. How so?

                    Quote: ccsr
                    And how do your homosexuals and lesbians help you with this?

                    Yes. I posted the link to you.

                    Quote: ccsr
                    Hold tight, we do not believe your promises, because you are too big masters to throw gullibles, and we have fewer and fewer of them.

                    And therefore, more and more Russians are moving to Israel? Where is the logic?
                  5. ccsr 30 December 2019 17: 02 New
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                    There is an escape from Russia to Israel. How so?

                    I personally, like most Russians (I suppose) only welcome this - we hope that all terrorists will be destroyed with your hands, the flag in your hands. In vain Putin did not promise support to all those who want to leave Russia for their historical homeland, at least by paying for a one-way ticket - the people would approve such a decision.
                    Quote: Professor
                    And therefore, more and more Russians are moving to Israel? Where is the logic?

                    Judging by your statistics, and the fact that the stream of emigrants does not run dry in any way, in Russia Jewish women give birth even more than your orthodox mothers - everyone comes and goes from us for many years, and their number on TVs does not decrease. This is some kind of metaphysical paradox - I just can not explain this phenomenon.
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    I personally, like most Russians (I suppose) only welcome this - we hope that all terrorists will be destroyed with your hands, the flag in your hands. In vain Putin did not promise support to all those who want to leave Russia for their historical homeland, at least by paying for a one-way ticket - the people would approve such a decision.

                    And there will be yudenfray. The blue dream of Natsik.

                    Quote: ccsr
                    Judging by your statistics, and the fact that the stream of emigrants does not run dry in any way, in Russia Jewish women give birth even more than your orthodox mothers - everyone comes and goes from us for many years, and their number on TVs does not decrease. This is some kind of metaphysical paradox - I just can not explain this phenomenon.

                    Is this just out of your understanding?
                    http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2003/0105/tema02.php

                    http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2016/0693/tema01.php
  • gurzuf 29 December 2019 17: 21 New
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    I remember even with some of whom I studied from these operas of the Primorsky police department of the mountains. Odessa. They have not given such pseudonyms to their agents.
  • lucul 29 December 2019 13: 18 New
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    I can talk about the statements of the dancer Zakharova,

    And what is wrong with Zakharova? Completely yours:
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      Quote: lucul
      I can talk about the statements of the dancer Zakharova,

      And what is wrong with Zakharova? Completely yours:

      Yours is yours.
  • apro 29 December 2019 10: 14 New
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    universities are now anti-Semitism.

    For that fought for it and ran..
    1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 16: 06 New
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      Quote: apro
      Quote: Professor
      universities are now anti-Semitism.

      For that fought for it and ran..

      That's right, Jews in the States fought for the equality of blacks with the rest of the population
  • Vladimir_6 29 December 2019 12: 03 New
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    In the Russian Federation more than in the USA. On American TV and in power, anti-Semites do not allow themselves what their Russian colleagues allow.

    It is possible because the percentage of Semites on American TV and in the US is higher than on Russian TV and in the Russian Federation.
  • Paranoid50 29 December 2019 09: 46 New
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    trump mode cannot protect

    Oh, already a mode. Is democracy not in the bastion of democracy? laughing
  • Mountain shooter 29 December 2019 09: 19 New
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    It doesn’t fit my head - where are the blacks (oh, African-Americans belay ) and where is the American synagogue! World has gone mad?
    1. rich 29 December 2019 09: 57 New
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      Professor (Oleg Sokolov): Universities are now the breeding ground for anti-Semitism
      .
      What do you mean by that? What is an attacking RUDN graduate? Or that a New York rabbi, part-time assistant professor at New York University, failed a black student in an exam? And what about universities?
    2. Xenofont 29 December 2019 11: 53 New
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      Too many blacks embrace Islam and hence these outbursts of hatred.
    3. 32363 29 December 2019 13: 02 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It doesn’t fit my head - where are the blacks (oh, African-Americans belay ) and where is the American synagogue! World has gone mad?

      bully
  • Thrifty 29 December 2019 09: 21 New
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    Negro stupid lol -knife in your hands, so do yourself circumcision, which is trapped in the synagogue lol
    1. knn54 29 December 2019 09: 27 New
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      The article inaccuracy is not a knife, but a machete.
      I would like to know: the "classical" synagogue or belonged to the Chabad Congregation.
      There is a difference.
      1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 11: 39 New
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        What's the difference? )) Let's say the synagogue of the Breclav Hasidim. Or reformist
    2. Xenofont 29 December 2019 11: 54 New
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      Yes, he most likely already did! In the Islamic manner of current.
  • Victor_B 29 December 2019 09: 21 New
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    This is a global event!
    The crime is quite RACIAL, but for this type there is a SEPARATE term - anti-Semitism.
    On the same street, at the same time (in a spherical vacuum) three murders:
    - the white one killed the black man,
    - the black man killed the white.
    - any of them killed a Jew.
    The consequences will be VERY different!
    Worst of all will be punished who killed the Jew.
    Least of all - the one who killed the white.
  • Professor 29 December 2019 09: 23 New
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    A Negro with a scarf on his face, silently with a Machate attacked the synagogue house and wounded 3 parishioners. He tried to enter the prayer hall, but the parishioners barricaded themselves and he hid on the white Nisan. The numbers are already known to the police ...

    Freaks full of all over the world.
    1. Victor_B 29 December 2019 09: 28 New
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      Quote: Professor
      Freaks full of all over the world.

      Yes, it's full!
      And all these hatreds are carefully cherished by specially trained people ...
  • Krasnodar 29 December 2019 09: 27 New
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    The roof goes to people. I won’t be surprised if this nerd had the intelligence to come and leave the crime scene in his own car.
    1. Zeev Zeev 29 December 2019 10: 56 New
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      That’s enough. He was detained an hour later with the car.
      1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 11: 42 New
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        Q.E.D. I suppose he protested against the oppression of the people of Palestine, the racist statements of Trump and the dominance of Jews in Hollywood and Google
  • gurzuf 29 December 2019 09: 55 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    where are the blacks (oh, blacks

    Come on you! I’ll say even more rudely - a black man!
    1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 10: 28 New
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      Most likely - not a woman laughing
  • 30143 29 December 2019 10: 26 New
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    I still do not understand why this material is here. Let’s still arrange a wailing wall here, first mocking the miner, tobish, African-American.
    1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 16: 17 New
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      Come on!
      An African-American named Maxim accidentally survived a demolition of Uncle Tom’s hut by the Kukluksklanovsky bulldozer accidentally found on the floor of a neighboring burnt wigwam a volume of Ho Chi Minh's works After two days of intensive reading, laying a bookmark of dried cannabis between the first and second pages, he thought hard. And he liked to think! Two days later, taking a loan under predatory money-grubbing western 5%, he stole a machete from a sleepy oppressed Mexican refugee, in solidarity with Viet Cong, he bought an Asian-made car on borrowed money and went to avenge those who are to blame for all the troubles of the world proletariat ...
      1. 30143 29 December 2019 21: 37 New
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        Here is the answer!
        Thank. I read it with pleasure!
  • Prisoner 29 December 2019 10: 31 New
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    Beast people. It’s good to see right away that it’s not a Muscovite. Otherwise, the New York City Hall would have dumped everything on the Kremlin.
  • Zeev Zeev 29 December 2019 10: 55 New
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    The clearest example of what happens to unarmed Jews.
  • 32363 29 December 2019 13: 14 New
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    I always wonder why Jews are not so loved?
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      here is more visible

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    What a cool black ass.
  • Shahno 29 December 2019 19: 00 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    Quote: Professor
    Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA.

    In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.

    Moshe Dayan once used to say. -What we, the mouse, grab, bite and mink. Predators circle around and whales with sperm whales swim .. Where do we go.
    And it was exactly before going to Damascus, I remember when Kosygin saved the Syrians ..
    Do you understand what I mean?
  • Shahno 29 December 2019 19: 13 New
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    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: Victor_B
    Quote: Professor
    Anti-Semitism is enough everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less. In the Russian Federation more than in the USA.

    In terms of punishment, anti-Semitism is many times harder than violent Russophobia.

    Moshe Dayan once used to say. -What we, the mouse, grab, bite and mink. Predators circle around and whales with sperm whales swim .. Where do we go.
    And it was exactly before going to Damascus, I remember when Kosygin saved the Syrians ..
    Do you understand what I mean?

    It is not good for a mouse to take the whale’s burden and receive it like a sperm whale .. And she, the infection, takes it.
  • cat Rusich 29 December 2019 22: 48 New
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    I can only notice that the attacker used a cold weapon. The cries of the "democrats" about restricting the sale of "gunshot" do not work - the offender will find a way to commit a crime without a "gunshot"
  • Benjamin Gnomes 29 December 2019 23: 56 New
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    Beauty, this infection is hated everywhere.
    1. Connor MacLeod 29 December 2019 23: 57 New
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      it seems to me a ban
  • georggy 30 December 2019 16: 44 New
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    "We are all deeply saddened!"