Former Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine: Our country won two victories that hit Russia


In Ukraine, they vied with each other to discuss the number of “victories” over Russia in the past year. So, President Zelensky called the payment of $ 2,9 billion by Gazprom to Naftogaz “a new big victory.” He repeats the president of Ukraine and the former deputy foreign minister of the country Elena Zerkal, but on a different occasion.


According to Zerkal, in 2019 Ukraine "won two very important victories over Russia." According to her, we are talking about victories in court.

Elena Zerkal, comparing Ukraine and Russia with David and Goliath, states that Ukraine, as the shepherd David, has a “sling” that allows you to win at court.

Ms. Mirror quotes the Ukrainian weekly Mirror of the Week:

In 2019, our country won two important victories that hit Russia.

What kind of “victories”, in the opinion of the former deputy foreign minister of Ukraine, “hit the Russian Federation”, are we talking about?

Zerkal considers the first “help” to be the return by Russia of the Navy sailors and ships to Ukraine - by decision of the international maritime tribunal. The second is the decision of the UN International Court of Justice, which, according to Zerkal, “rejected the Russian Federation’s objection to the lawsuit under the convention on combating the financing of terrorism and eliminating forms of racial discrimination. At the same time, Mirror herself states that this "victory by many international experts does not consider such a victory."

Mirror:

Such a position on their part plays on the side of Russia.

At the same time, Zerkal did not specify when Ukraine will achieve the main victory for itself - it will stop shelling its own citizens in the Donbass ...

Declaring that "the victories of Ukraine hit Russia," Mirror added, not without regret, that "they did not bleed completely."
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  1. NF68 28 December 2019 16: 05 New
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    In order to catch fat crucian, they also slip a decent bait on him. No matter how it happened with lovers to ride with pots on their heads.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 28 December 2019 16: 07 New
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      The collective farm chairman reports to the meeting: “Last year, we sowed 5 thousand hectares of grain - weevils all ate, this year we sowed 15 thousand hectares of grain - and again weevils. Let's sow next year 25 thousand hectares - let him choke!))))
      1. NF68 28 December 2019 16: 08 New
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        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        The collective farm chairman reports to the meeting: “Last year, we sowed 5 thousand hectares of grain - weevils all ate, this year we sowed 15 thousand hectares of grain - and again weevils. Let's sow next year 25 thousand hectares - let him choke!))))


        Seem to be. Even more. The only question is time.
        1. Dmitry Donskoy 28 December 2019 16: 13 New
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          It always happens when there is nothing more to be proud of. request
          1. sergey32 28 December 2019 16: 23 New
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            The day before yesterday I was traveling by train from Moscow to Bryansk. On the Kiev railway station, on one side of the platform there is a brand new gorgeous double-decker train of Russian Railways in the provincial Bryansk. On the other hand, a squalid squad in metropolitan European Kiev. This is the most decent of their trains, they would look at Odessa. And where are they overcome?
            1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 28 December 2019 16: 26 New
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              Quote: sergey32
              miserable composition in metropolitan European Kiev.

              There was an article on the reporter that large mushrooms (oyster mushrooms) sprouted and comfortably settled on the Zaporozhye-Berdyansk train. Not a train, but a self-assembled tablecloth. And they say that in Ukraine everything is bad ... Tse peremoga.
              https://topcor.ru/11794-veshenki-v-vagonah-ukrainskie-poezda-nachali-pokryvatsja-plesenju-i-gribami.html
              1. sergey32 28 December 2019 16: 30 New
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                They would also have forbidden their ancient trains to smoke at the metro station with their coal heating.
                1. Alien From 28 December 2019 16: 58 New
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                  To be honest, there is some kind of native smell in this haze))) because all the trains of the Union smelled like that))
              2. Avior 28 December 2019 19: 14 New
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                think frank invention
                it looks like a decommissioned abandoned wagon
                a simple search finds an electric train - bus Zaporozhye - Berdyansk

                I doubt that mushrooms grow there.
                as for the Berdyansk-Zaporozhye trains, they don’t run at all, they aren’t in nature.
                https://www.uz.gov.ua/passengers/timetable/?from_station=22690&to_station=22730%2C22800&select_time=2&time_from=00&time_to=24&by_route=%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%88%D1%83%D0%BA
                And even if they were, a compartment car for a trip time of 3-4 hours is most likely unrealistic
            2. NF68 28 December 2019 16: 58 New
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              Quote: sergey32
              On the other hand, a squalid squad in metropolitan European Kiev.


              As a country, such and trains. And not just trains.
              1. Vladimir61 28 December 2019 18: 07 New
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                Quote: NF68
                As a country, such and trains.

                They have everything "the very best", and therefore the trains are the most train ...
            3. major147 28 December 2019 17: 25 New
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              Quote: sergey32
              The day before yesterday I was traveling by train from Moscow to Bryansk. On the Kiev railway station, on one side of the platform there is a brand new gorgeous double-decker train of Russian Railways in the provincial Bryansk. On the other hand, a squalid squad in metropolitan European Kiev. This is the most decent of their trains, they would look at Odessa. And where are they overcome?

              Is there a “Great Agrarian Power" buying potatoes in Africa before trains !?
              1. sergey32 28 December 2019 17: 31 New
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                No, not in Africa. Recently, they had a scandal. In Ukrainian networks, Russian potato is sold entirely. Ours is cheaper. In our country, Bryansk alone produces it more than all of Belarus. We export to Africa and Brazil, and much more.
                1. major147 28 December 2019 17: 39 New
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                  Quote: sergey32
                  We export to Africa and Brazil, and much more.

                  Ukraine becomes dependent on imported potatoes. According to the head of the Union of Ukrainian Villages Ivan Tomich, now Ukrainians are forced to buy potatoes in Africa, and this is a shame. The head of the Union of Ukrainian Villages said that currently the agricultural and food sectors of Ukraine are heavily dependent on imports. This level, emphasized Ivan Tomich, the country has reached for the first time in modern history. The agrarian made a corresponding statement during a press conference in Kiev.

                  “Ukraine has increased and is increasing the import of potatoes and other vegetables. In this outgoing 2019, Ukraine even began to buy vegetables in Central Asia, where the same potatoes were always imported, not exported. This is an indicator that the Ukrainian state is having problems "Planning used to be called. A whole series of products, which Ukrainians used to be satisfied with with local production, now have to be transported from afar,"
                  1. sergey32 28 December 2019 17: 59 New
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                    So they have some experience - coal from the DPR will be recorded both from South Africa or Pennsylvania. And Bryansk potato next to over the border to drag and African issue them once to spit. Also, push the long-distance transportation into the price, in Rotterdam plus.
                    1. major147 28 December 2019 19: 58 New
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                      Quote: sergey32
                      Bryansk potato next to the border to drag and African issue them once to spit. Also, push the long-distance transportation into the price, in Rotterdam plus.

                      This is yes! good
              2. oleko51081 29 December 2019 09: 24 New
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                Ukrainians have two budgets, this is 2 change.
            4. Nyrobsky 28 December 2019 20: 17 New
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              Quote: sergey32
              And where are they overcome?

              All their efforts are in the number of mined chokes.
            5. Metallurg_2 28 December 2019 22: 18 New
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              You look at the trains of the Lviv Railway - this is generally a seam, it is unclear how they still go.
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          3. Proxima 28 December 2019 16: 49 New
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            It always happens when there is nothing more to be proud of. request

            It can be attributed to peerogogs that Nord Stream 2 has not yet entered service. True, this is a matter of time, but after all, the peermog is the same! drinks good
            1. NKT
              NKT 28 December 2019 19: 16 New
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              Ten years ago, when the current treaty was signed, the entire Ukrainian Internet was full of headlines and articles about how Tymoshenko “bent” Putin and what a profitable treaty she signed because it was pegged to the price of oil, and oil was cheap then. After some time, as soon as the price of oil began to rise, the breakdown was replaced by a hail. Therefore, they always have this: Peremoga adjoins the zrada.
            2. major147 28 December 2019 22: 43 New
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              [quote = Proxima] [quote = Dmitry Donskoy] It always happens when there is nothing more to be proud of. request[/ Quote][/ I]
              [i] It can be attributed to peerogogs that Nord Stream 2 has not yet entered service. True, this is a matter of time, but after all, the peermog is the same! drinks good[/ Quote]

              [quote] [quote] Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadim Priestayko warned Germany and France that they would become dependent on Russian gas if the Nord Stream 2 project were implemented. According to him, Russia is an unreliable fuel supplier, because it all depends on her desire. Whether business Ukraine. The Minister noted that the Ukrainian authorities guarantee gas supplies through their pipelines. He also recalled that "Russia remains the source of gas." [/ quote]
              The Klimkin case lives and wins. De Belizeme in his classical sense. If the "unreliable supplier" Russia "cuts off" gas to Europe through SP-2, then what will prevent it from "shutting off" gas going to Europe through the outskirts !!! ???? Yeah, logic is not about them! fool
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            1. Alien From 28 December 2019 17: 43 New
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              Tikhonmarin! Very strong second couplet !!!!!!)
              1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 17: 57 New
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                Quote: Alien From
                Tikhonmarin! Very strong second couplet !!

                Yes, it's not me, but this outstanding poet, journalist, independent man, but he hated Natsik
          5. stalki 28 December 2019 17: 27 New
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            It always happens when there is nothing more to be proud of.
            Exactly, in this situation, Ukraine looks like a girl of easy virtue, whose eyes were knocked down, but she stood up and brushed off and feeling her eyes expresses optimism, they say now it’s not necessary to apply cosmetics lol
          6. Lelek 28 December 2019 19: 55 New
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            Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
            It always happens when there is nothing more to be proud of.

            hi
            Do not pay attention to the wretched earlings, roaming the world with outstretched hands and litigation in the courts, the results of which elevate to the rank of victory. Russia has something to be proud of - they built a bridge and opened communications, built thousands of kilometers of new roads, launched new ships and icebreakers, supplied the army and navy with unique new weapons, reconstructed dozens of airports and designed new ones, laid new pipelines, etc. And all this without handouts from the side and with the enormous pressure of the “West”. This is the "help".
            1. grave 30 December 2019 10: 17 New
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              Icebreakers and roads will bring money into the budget and deliver it? Russia lives on the sale of hydrocarbons. And now one way is through Ukraine. All overpasses are bypassed. The failed foreign policy and the thirst for quick profit to please political interests do their job. us conditions that we can’t refuse, there’s no choice
      2. Kronos 28 December 2019 16: 09 New
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        Only Russia in this case, the chairman
      3. major147 28 December 2019 17: 02 New
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        he will choke!))))

        These will not choke, how many do not give!
      4. Chaldon48 29 December 2019 00: 54 New
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        I heard this anecdote, only aphids appeared there
      5. zenion 29 December 2019 15: 43 New
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        This is of course interesting. But the weevil is eating beets. And the conversation was about potatoes and the Colorado potato beetle.
      6. Nikolai Korovin 30 December 2019 02: 12 New
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        In the classic version, as far as I remember, it was not a weevil that appeared. And aphids. True, it turned out a little indecent, but very intelligible.
    2. Hunter 2 28 December 2019 16: 10 New
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      Well, now the "victors" are specifically activated! sad
      Victory from the category - not everyone has been killed yet .... laughing laughing laughing
      1. cniza 28 December 2019 16: 15 New
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        They will trample them now and not childishly, and then, after the holidays, a year later a hangover will come.
        1. private person 28 December 2019 17: 44 New
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          And that trample that? Have you read the contract and conditions for the supply of gas to Ukraine? And where is the 100% guarantee that the same court will not award any other payment in favor of Ukraine in a year from Russia? Something about victories only Ukrainians shout, but as a year at the Urapatriots they shouted that Ukraine would not get anything. And then there are gas and court payments and a 5-year contract. And during this time a lot of water will flow away.
          1. cniza 28 December 2019 17: 47 New
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            Be patient, of course we don’t know much, but we'll see what happens in a year, or maybe earlier, then remember my words ...
            1. private person 28 December 2019 18: 55 New
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              Three years ago, they shouted about the default of the Ukrainian economy and promised complete devastation. So what ?

              but let's see what will happen in a year, or maybe earlier, then remember my words ..

              Here in Russia we don’t know what will happen in a year, and here Ukraine is a “field of miracles”. It’s clear that something will happen.
          2. Grits 29 December 2019 03: 19 New
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            If we proceed from pure facts, then all these Ukrainian “comrades” say quite rightly - Ukraine quite convincingly defeated Russia.
            1. The sailors returned? Returned. And for Banderostan oklas it is absolutely not important that they were given for humane reasons. All the same, they will argue that under the pressure of all international tribunals.
            2. Has Gazprom paid the fine? Paid. It doesn’t matter if Gazprom rested its horn, it might not have paid. Just chose the smallest of evils.
            3. An agreement on gas transit through Banderostan signed? Signed. Ohlas in trousers (as well as in our shirts) is not at all interested that if it had not been signed, then we could lose the European gas market forever. And the Amerikatos were already rubbing their hands, anticipating how the contract was broken and Russia could not fulfill its contractual obligations. And as American gas carriers rush into Europe and they will be met there with flowers, as saviors from the cold.
            4. “They shut up the Nord Stream?” They covered. Khokhlopitheks are jumping with happiness, how famously their American friends put sticks in the wheels of aggressive dictatorship molecules. Although the remnants of the brain must understand that the 99% gas pipeline is brought to mind anyway. delay. But. Peremoga now, at this time. Gallop!
            So, in fact, we lost to Ukraine in the eyes of the Ukrainian layman. If ours, then, in Russia ached about a terrible defeat, what can we say about them? On which from every youtuga is poured "peremoga", "peremoga"! Naturally, without any in-depth analysis - only a fait accompli.
            We, too, are offended to feel like the prowling side. But when you carefully study the issue, you come to the conclusion that this was the most optimal way out of their given situation. And the one who laughs last laughs.
            1. private person 29 December 2019 08: 45 New
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              If ours, then, in Russia ached about a terrible defeat, what can we say about them?

              Yes, they didn’t ache, but it just happened and it couldn’t be otherwise, you justified it by the way. Just "couch generals patriots of Russia" for a couple of years shouted at VO that there will be no transit, we will not pay, etc. And now they are also shouting but already different at the same time they consider their point of view to be the only true one, and whoever does not agree with them is a whiner and a liberal.
          3. Victor Orthodox 29 December 2019 16: 19 New
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            Now, it’s not clear what they are thinking about. After a while, Gazprom will again lower all profits from the Ukrainian contract on ships, and it should remain.
            I hope all this fuss with Ukraine is just a safety net before the launch of Nord Stream 2.
            Not leadership.
        2. orionvitt 28 December 2019 18: 13 New
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          Quote: cniza
          They will trample them now and not childishly

          Yes, they have been rushing for the sixth year. That's just a little use, that is, not at all. Well, they jump with their efforts, but have they begun to live better? Quite the opposite, worse and worse. A legitimate question arises, if such "breakthroughs", then what then do "failure" look like?
          1. cniza 28 December 2019 18: 50 New
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            To this only they can answer, we do not have enough imagination. yes
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      3. Terenin 28 December 2019 19: 07 New
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        Yes, there is nothing new in the conclusion of this ex-deputy ... Foreign Ministry ... no. no
        They do not understand that according to the rules of ethics, determine the criteria for good and evil (to praise or scold ...) others fool . And, this pathetic praise of himself, his beloved (like "glory to Ukraine, to the heroes-glory" ...), is not from a great mind.
    3. Finches 28 December 2019 16: 15 New
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      Here I also believe that in relations with Ukraine, our authorities constantly, since 1991, have been pouring Russian national interests into the toilet! Crimea is the only bright spot in this matter! Sailors had to be condemned and leave to cut wood in Kolyma or Mordovia, gas had to be shut off, Donbass was squeezed out ... So there are some agreements between the Washington regional committee and the Kremlin, as well as the oligarchic interests of our big hucksters!
      1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 16: 33 New
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        Quote: Finches
        So there are some agreements between the Washington regional committee and the Kremlin, as well as the oligarchic interests of our large hucksters!

        We can assume that, but Uncle Sam’s ears stick out.
      2. D16
        D16 28 December 2019 17: 01 New
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        Here I also believe that in relations with Ukraine, our authorities constantly, since 1991, have been pouring Russian national interests into the toilet!

        I would say since the time of Nikita Sergeevich. He gave Crimea to Ukraine. And how the Bolsheviks tried laughing .
        Sailors should have been convicted and left to fell the forest in Kolyma or in Mordovia

        In fact, these are warships and nobody had the right to arrest them without declaring war.
        gas had to be shut off

        Here I agree with you. This cannot be done, but one must strive for it. Draw up a five-year plan to reduce gas and oil exports and strictly follow it. This will raise prices, and something will remain for the children. We have the coldest country on the planet. After Mongolia.
        Donbass wrung out ...

        International law does not accept the word “wrung out”. It is impossible to obtain it legally, unlike the Crimea. Yes and no reason. Let him reformat Ukraine for himself. He just needs help.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov 28 December 2019 17: 15 New
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          Quote: D16
          Here I also believe that in relations with Ukraine, our authorities constantly, since 1991, have been pouring Russian national interests into the toilet!

          I would say since the time of Nikita Sergeevich. He gave Crimea to Ukraine. And how the Bolsheviks tried laughing .
          Sailors should have been convicted and left to fell the forest in Kolyma or in Mordovia

          In fact, these are warships and nobody had the right to arrest them without declaring war.
          gas had to be shut off

          Here I agree with you. This cannot be done, but one must strive for it. Draw up a five-year plan to reduce gas and oil exports and strictly follow it. This will raise prices, and something will remain for the children. We have the coldest country on the planet. After Mongolia.
          Donbass wrung out ...

          International law does not accept the word “wrung out”. It is impossible to obtain it legally, unlike the Crimea. Yes and no reason. Let him reformat Ukraine for himself. He just needs help.

          They would have asked for a pilot and did not have to arrest them. Ships ...
          1. D16
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            Nevertheless, ships with guns were arrested. And this is fundamentally wrong according to the logic of the law of the sea.
            1. Andrey Chistyakov 28 December 2019 22: 47 New
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              Quote: D16
              Nevertheless, ships with guns were arrested. And this is fundamentally wrong according to the logic of the law of the sea.

              I'm talking about the pilot, you're talking about the law. One must always go from the sources, and not what happened afterwards.
              1. D16
                D16 28 December 2019 22: 49 New
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                Pfff .... Is it important to you what happened, or what could happen?
            2. Rakovor 30 December 2019 14: 37 New
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              That is, you say that any ship "with guns" can go into ter. water and he can’t do anything? Ours still acted humanely, in theory they should not have seized but drowned.
        2. Alien From 28 December 2019 17: 46 New
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          Economically, they need to be crushed !!!
          1. tracer 28 December 2019 19: 18 New
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            It’s too late to “push”; And I thought why Putin was clearly angry at the Norman meeting. This clown is the same naughty on Lavrov. Just did not show it and quietly hushed up. Ukropithek is proudly talking about this. Like Zelya bent all, could all, Lavrova "sent", the balados had a freebie. Well, a winter fairy tale. Now they will panpan. Everything is clearly in the traditions of the Galician Selyuk. It’s necessary to deal with them. The whole question is when. Here, this Old Man suspended the intrigue, the collective farmer is another one close to Galitsai in development. We must act decisively now in this matter, and not when he activates and feeds his Natsik.
          2. Brturin 28 December 2019 20: 03 New
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            Quote: Alien From
            Economically, they need to be crushed !!!

            Only somehow - they themselves admit that Ukraine will receive less than $ 31,2 million and lose 1,3% of current exports to the Russian Federation after Russia imposed sanctions on a number of Ukrainian goods in December 2019
            1. tracer 28 December 2019 21: 48 New
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              Do you think that those who have written out a bonus of 25 million to themselves will be very worried?
        3. PSih2097 28 December 2019 18: 58 New
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          Quote: D16
          I would say since the time of Nikita Sergeevich.

          Well, with the "Nikitka" in Ukraine, the "black craters" rode like they did not ride in the same RSFSR of that time ...
      3. asv363 28 December 2019 17: 42 New
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        Quote: Finches
        gas had to be shut off

        Let's count it again.
        SP1 - 55
        SP2 - 55 (imagine that it is already built)
        TP - 15,75 (thread to the Balkans)
        Transit through the Belarusian GTS - 32
        _______________________________
        Total: 157,75 billion cubic meters.

        Last year, gas supplies to Europe through the pipeline system amounted to 202 billion cubic meters. Due to technological reserves at the peak, the same SP1 missed somewhere 58, there was a case. I think SP2 will be able to. Where else will we take 40, Eugene?
        1. major147 28 December 2019 17: 50 New
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          Where else will we take 40, Eugene?

          I already wrote about this. With these "forty" profit will be. At a loss they will not download through the forelocks. hi
      4. cat Rusich 28 December 2019 23: 25 New
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        Ordinary mokryaki from Ukraine - first sentenced to 5 years and send to the nursing home of former prisoners (there is such) orderlies to wash glasses. Commanders and SBUshnikov - for 10 years on the collective farm with golden coins (to remove cows and pigs). And not in the zone and in deed ...
        1. Looking for 29 December 2019 15: 33 New
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          decisive steps had to be taken earlier. now, too late.
    4. Densel 28 December 2019 16: 41 New
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      You are probably an amateur (of cunning plans) - so I also waited for this (cunning plan) from the age of 14. But a couple of years ago I stopped believing, which is what I wish for.
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      Yes, ours won’t do anything — all North-Turkish flows are blocked, gas must be pumped to Europe but ... through Ukraine only. ..
  2. Thrifty 28 December 2019 16: 06 New
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    To begin with, it did not hurt to calculate your defeats! And only one, purely conditional "help", and not a victory!
    1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 16: 27 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      To begin with, it did not hurt to calculate your defeats!

      And they believe that they have no defeats, only "overcome". They are fine. Every day I talk with state workers, and rarely anyone will say "bad with us."
    2. Mountain shooter 28 December 2019 16: 36 New
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      They lost the war. Tiny peremoga on the result will not affect. And why does everyone consider the loss of Gazprom to be Russia's defeat? Yes, Gazprom has a net profit of more than 10 lard greens per year. Do not go broke. The state will receive a little less dividends. From its share of shares.
      1. major147 28 December 2019 17: 09 New
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        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Tiny peremoga on the result will not affect.

        Yes, it’s not their "overpower"! It’s just that the West feeds, whenever possible, its foster feeding at the expense of Russia. Well this is how one should “judge” that under the same conditions, one is to blame, and the second is not!
        "Your hand is the lord!"
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        Alf 28 December 2019 17: 42 New
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        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Yes, Gazprom has a net profit of more than 10 lard greens per year.

        And give a third of the margin to the "partners"? Yes, Gazprom will be strangled (or rather, strangled us), but it will retain its profit, it was not for nothing that the miller spoke about linking gas prices for the population to green.
  3. Ilya-spb 28 December 2019 16: 08 New
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    In the New Year, I wish Ukraine and Ukrainians more common sense.
    1. Alien From 28 December 2019 17: 01 New
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      I will join you! Let Santa Claus give them a brain, I will clarify .... thinking))))
    2. Tersky 28 December 2019 17: 37 New
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      Quote: Ilya-spb
      In the New Year, I wish Ukraine and Ukrainians more common sense.

      Do they know what it is? With the collapse of the Union in 1991, an aggressive minority was activated in Galicia, which declared its cultural code to be truly Ukrainian and state-forming, and all the rest were flawed. And all the rest (that is, the majority of the population which has nothing to do with the Natsiks) this idea was picked up with a bang on the Maidan. Therefore, without denazification, a long and painful process, understanding and common sense in Ukraine is impossible in principle.
      1. Tuzik 28 December 2019 18: 41 New
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        If there was a standard of living in Russia as in Europe, an aggressive minority would be an empty place.
        1. Tersky 28 December 2019 19: 08 New
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          There would be a standard of living in Russia as in Europe

          In Russia, an aggressive minority with a Nazi bias tends to quickly assimilate the bunk, in contrast to the Ukrainian minority, which bent the majority from Galicia with its support, promising the latter euronishtyakov, that is, "living standards."
          1. Tuzik 28 December 2019 19: 20 New
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            Well, common sense always goes where it is better. And bunks for all unwanted authorities are also not the best advertising.
            1. Tersky 28 December 2019 19: 39 New
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              Quote: Tuzik
              And bunks for all objectionable are also not the best advertising.

              And where did you read that all the objectionable? It's about
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              aggressive minority with a Nazi bias

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              Well, common sense always goes where it is better.

              Common sense is when a person realizes that nothing arises from nowhere, and does not disappear. That is, everything has a price. And what did the majority in / in Ukraine hope for? Where was the common sense? There were illusions imposed on most of the Galician Nazis.
              1. Tuzik 28 December 2019 19: 55 New
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                People travel west, see how they live there. They say it’s not an illusion at all)
                1. Tersky 28 December 2019 20: 07 New
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                  Quote: Tuzik
                  People travel west, see how they live there. They say it’s not an illusion.

                  You either do not want to understand, or you intentionally do not want to do this. No one disputes that in the West they live better in other countries, but no one has presented this better life to the West. In those states where the standard of living is higher than, for example, in Ukraine, these benefits are created by the labor of its population. And what did the independents hoping for? For free? But it turned out to be so "multifaceted" that all Maidan dreams crashed on these faces.
                  1. Tuzik 28 December 2019 20: 23 New
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                    After all, you have to start with something. Common sense suggests that if there has been no progress for many years, it might be worth trying something else, especially if there is an example. Our generation thinks something like this: With me already figs with him, I probably will not live up to a good life, well, at least children and grandchildren will not be in need. Or do you think this is not common sense?
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                      well, even if the children and grandchildren are not in need. Or do you think this is not common sense?

                      Quite. Any sane person will strive for this, but at the same time realizing that from nothing all these benefits will not arise.
                2. Maverick78 28 December 2019 20: 54 New
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                  Illusions that Ukraine will live like the west) I have a godfather in Latvia. He says that 20 minutes from Riga and life ends. A workmate was in Italy ... half a year in the south. Also disappointed. Says the first week two was all unusual, interesting. And then he began to notice something that tourists did not have time to notice.
  4. cniza 28 December 2019 16: 14 New
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    Former Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine: Our country won two victories that hit Russia


    You can’t judge by intermediate results, it’s not yet evening ...
    1. Pete mitchell 28 December 2019 16: 25 New
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      Quote: cniza
      You can’t judge by intermediate results, it’s not yet evening ...
      hi Do not count your chickens before they are hatched recourse From the intermediate 'achievements': A civil war of which there is no end or end in sight - people continue to perish; on the international stage, no one puts them in anything - whoever orders music does not have to pay, they will surrender themselves
      1. cniza 28 December 2019 16: 56 New
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        The fact of the matter is that the war continues, people are dying, and someone is filling his own pockets ... hi
  5. svp67 28 December 2019 16: 16 New
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    And what else can a person say all his life and career put on the "Maidan"
  6. Van 16 28 December 2019 16: 18 New
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    Why did I remember the joke- "In Russia, they stopped laughing at jokes about Ukraine, everyone thinks that this is Ukrainian news."
  7. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 16: 22 New
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    In 2019, our country won two important victories that hit Russia.
    Everywhere "zrad and overwhelm." But there is nothing to buy a vaccine for children against measles and rubella. Or just to unfasten your bonus from overwork, and they don’t give a damn about children, especially to all ex-prime ministers and ex-ministers. Everyone filled their pockets, like Senya Yats, bought villages in the states, and the people jump on the Maidan and yell “overpower” without noticing poverty.
  8. Odysseus 28 December 2019 16: 23 New
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    Ukraine does not have political subjectivity, so it was not she who won, but the collective West.
    But fact is fact-victory is really won. All plans to bypass Ukraine were frustrated, I had to de facto pay indemnity.
    And this is only the beginning - the Americans will keep the situation in the Donbas in the form of a bloody, non-healing wound, they will make it very expensive to pay for the completion of SP-2, and Ukraine, in a year or two, will make another lawsuit.
    But what can be done here? "How can a schoolboy fight with a perfect punks?" You cannot fight the West while striving to fit into it.
    1. rocket757 28 December 2019 16: 41 New
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      All plans to bypass Ukraine were frustrated, I had to de facto pay indemnity.

      Disrupted, straight, straight ... however, the delay in terms, it is unpleasant., But not for long.
      Contribution? this is a payment for assets that Kukuevsky will not reach now. A certain farmer, collective, something there ... oh yes, foreign, from annoying Kukuev.
      Everything will be visible in a year, two ....
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      You cannot fight the West while striving to fit into it.

      But this is true. If "our Christmas tree" continues to creep in that direction, dashing, "funny" events await us.
      1. Odysseus 28 December 2019 18: 15 New
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        Everything will be visible in a year, two ....

        Alas, transit will be 5 years. And there will be new claims. All this could be called the problem of the capitalist oligarchs, saying that the ordinary person is neither hot nor cold, but, alas, they will "nationalize losses" within the country.
        Quote: rocket757
        Disrupted, straight, straight ... however, the delay in terms, it is unpleasant., But not for long.

        After the end of the transit contract for transit with Ukraine, there will be no extension or conclusion of a new transit contract under any circumstances.
        Gazprom Deputy Chairman Alexander Medvedev
        1. rocket757 28 December 2019 18: 25 New
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          Alas, transit will be 5 years

          Alas for some. The transit agreement will be based on the protocol that ALL SIGNED! And there are so many "tricky" points that will have to be fulfilled that everything for Krajina is very difficult.
          Read at your leisure, and then try to claim that transit will last these five years.
          I read, very interesting.
          1. private person 28 December 2019 19: 55 New
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            I read, very interesting.

            What about your name? Who provided you with such data in the public domain? The agreement itself was announced the signing of 29.12.19/XNUMX/XNUMX. only it was said that the details were not disclosed.
            1. rocket757 28 December 2019 20: 25 New
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              What about your name?

              Not Miller, not Novak and not others, accomplices of that action. The protocols are NOT SECRET, about the contract is off topic, except that the officials STATED that the contract will be drawn up in accordance with and in the spirit of the relevant protocols.
              By the way, it’s hard to imagine when they are involved in some kind of negotiations, the geyropey officials sign, this “secret” will last beyond the threshold of the room in which they agreed / wrote these documents.
  9. rocket757 28 December 2019 16: 33 New
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    In 2019, our country won two important victories that hit Russia.
    The girl can be seen in the looking glass behind the mirror ... they were struck, right in the ... left heel or somewhere much lower.
  10. 75 Sergey 28 December 2019 16: 33 New
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    what difference does it make, who is now pumping resources from Russia, and how, all the same, the people of Rlssia don’t get anything and don’t need to la for taxes, those crumbs that are deducted go to the maintenance of the devices, and one of them is punitive.
  11. Vadim237 28 December 2019 16: 36 New
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    It’s interesting what kind of arrangements they will talk about when the IMF will demand a loan from them and when most of the nuclear power plants will be decommissioned.
  12. Alien From 28 December 2019 16: 37 New
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    Former brothers forget that money tends to run out, let it even jump, if the mood is ...... imf their best friend forever!)
    1. major147 28 December 2019 17: 14 New
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      Quote: Alien From
      imf their best friend forever!)


      From the "best friend of Ukrainians"!
      1. Alien From 28 December 2019 17: 16 New
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        This is for those to whom credit has made "everything affordable")
  13. Pied Piper 28 December 2019 16: 40 New
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    In 2019, our country won two important victories that hit Russia.

    Amazed of course ..
    It's like in a joke ..
    Two Jews sued in Court ..
    As a result, the judge should still remain both of them .. laughing
  14. bars1 28 December 2019 16: 43 New
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    Russia returned the sailors in the framework of the EXCHANGE of prisoners of war with Ukraine, and not as an implementation of the decision of the tribunal. So there is nothing Mirror to invent change. And she is a beautiful woman!
    1. Kronos 28 December 2019 17: 06 New
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      And the court voluntarily paid and not as part of the decision laughing
    2. major147 28 December 2019 17: 15 New
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      Quote: bars1
      Russia returned the sailors in the framework of the EXCHANGE of prisoners of war with Ukraine, and not as an implementation of the decision of the tribunal.

      Well, you know, I didn’t talk there, I didn’t say anything there, and as a result I’ve got a "pretty good time".
  15. RoTTor 28 December 2019 16: 45 New
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    Found authority ...
    Midway Midway:
    • November 28 •
    KLITINA & MIRROR - ГЕ \ st \ T \ b \ !!!
    About 2 resignations of SCANDALUAL ukrzamministryushek - MIDachki and MIUShki.
    See .. photo: a lot in common in appearance and competence,
    both on the edge ... interchangeable? At least among themselves, that with the same profane ministers ...
    It is characteristic that not a word about the zero professionalism of the whole Ukrainian “power” from top to bottom
    ............................
    And one more, much more harmful and scandalous retirement, the other is MIDUKUVA, who either gets fucked all over her head or dreams of fucking someone?
    However, Midaki is now all like that.
    To submit their statements about “voluntary dismissal”, in which no protest feat is observed, to submit to the Network - a diagnosis of psychiatric illness and the collapse of civil service, especially in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which is the face of the country.
    Let's take a closer look at her pussy.
    Here the form is definitely more interesting than the content.
    Handwriting sloppy, clumsy, lines crooked ...
    I was a high school student ...
    Really did not indicate the reason for the dismissal.
    This scribble should be shown to psychiatrists and graphologists.
    They won’t say anything good about her.

    https://www.facebook.com/Transpress_viczel-178637738821455
  16. Moskovit 28 December 2019 16: 47 New
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    The return of more than twenty parasites in exchange for our people, on the contrary, only strengthened Russia. But no one in Russia saw Gazprom’s 3 billion. They will not see them in Ukraine either. There his thief in Naftogaz sits. But there is a precedent for the implementation of the decision of the international court, so 3 billion may soon come back.
  17. 1536 28 December 2019 16: 56 New
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    In the words of Gleb Zheglov from “Meeting places cannot be changed”: "A beautiful woman in itself is distracting. It's nice to do something good for her. Right?"
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  19. Freedim 28 December 2019 17: 03 New
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    Her scarf faded :)
  20. Redline 28 December 2019 17: 07 New
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    A good gift for the New Year. Naftogaz management will receive $ 25 million in premiums
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    It's time, oh it's time for all occasions to establish public holidays ... to walk so walk.
  22. Ryaruav 28 December 2019 17: 34 New
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    what can I say on the face of the face even Gerashchenko’s profursetka in her 57 well, so they pick up new ones on the Leningrad highway
  23. Ryaruav 28 December 2019 17: 40 New
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    on the face of the face is written a fool and a stupid song of an idiot burns out to a stub
  24. Yaro Polk 28 December 2019 17: 41 New
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    "The first" help "Zerkal considers the return of the Russian Navy sailors and ships to Ukraine - by decision of the international maritime tribunal."
    Actually, it was a gesture of goodwill of Russia, and more specifically the GDP itself, most likely.
    A chicken with one gyrus in his head, and then straight.
    1. Kronos 28 December 2019 17: 45 New
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      And why did you decide that the idea of ​​a gesture came to mind not after a court decision?
      1. Yaro Polk 28 December 2019 17: 56 New
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        Yes, yes, and in retaliation to the Court we have removed sartirs from the courts.
      2. Yaro Polk 28 December 2019 17: 58 New
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        this shitty court did not apply to those areas of the Russian Federation .... and Russia could send them .... .... in principle .... so this is a gesture of D. freedom ... for pots
      3. Crimean partisan 1974 28 December 2019 18: 29 New
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        And why did you decide that the idea of ​​a gesture came to mind after the court’s decision? ... the court has nothing to do with it, it’s rubbish, you will soon see on the streets with brooms, gasters, out of 3 lard people don’t get anything. the Crimean bridge with a car and railway communication and with all infrastructure is another matter, these are lards to the proc, and 3 lard to the wow
    2. Alexey from Perm 28 December 2019 18: 18 New
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      Well, the second is real.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974 28 December 2019 18: 36 New
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        well, the second one is real .......... yeah, along the way, if not all that half of Gazprom will remain on the reverse with georoppi, shot about this reloading neither
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    BAI 28 December 2019 17: 52 New
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    This question, of course, is interesting, is the issue of border violators a gesture of goodwill or a deflection under an international maritime tribunal?
  26. Ham
    Ham 28 December 2019 17: 56 New
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    relatively sane dude against the background of others ... some already won and the Kuban on the map painted in yellow-bitter color
  27. Kibl 28 December 2019 17: 57 New
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    A very stupid and not distant aunt and this is the ex deputy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ??? We need more such leaders and return her to her former position .....
  28. Langf 28 December 2019 17: 58 New
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    Ukraine really has one worthwhile victory - in that all its nonsense, nonsense, helpfully and regularly falls out of the bucket onto Russian content, actually lowering it to the level of an animal, when trying to understand its (nonsense) content. Information in which there is not only grain, essence, but also the target orientation.
    1. Alexey from Perm 28 December 2019 18: 17 New
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      And she doesn’t need it, the main thing is to annoy Russia. Europe and the USA will support her in this.
  29. Old Horseradish 28 December 2019 17: 58 New
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    Two fraternal countries - Ukraine and Russia, with a single, in fact, people, clung to each other's throats. And who is in the black and white? A company of oligarchs on both sides.
    Now the zombies around the fire again dragged on the song: "Ukrainians are enemies, Chinese friends, Solovyov with two villas in the Mediterranean is a real patriot, a cunning plan, we get up from our knees, we are dying out but it’s necessary" and other nonsense. It turns out how easy it is to sow enmity and cut dollars, rubles, and hryvnias from this. All this happened hundreds of times in history. Nothing new.
    1. Yaro Polk 28 December 2019 18: 06 New
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      Nazis Bandera Russian not brothers, what does the dollar?
    2. Svarog 28 December 2019 18: 56 New
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      And who is in the black and white? A company of oligarchs on both sides.

      Also the USA .. it is precisely their alignment that suits them ..
      1. Old Horseradish 28 December 2019 20: 12 New
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        Also the USA .. it is precisely their alignment that suits them ..

        When I wrote about dollars - that is what I had in mind. They have business everywhere. We have blood, they have dollars. However, nothing new either.
  30. Alexey from Perm 28 December 2019 18: 15 New
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    The most offensive is that the money will go at the disposal of the most hostile state in Europe, which will use our money against us. For this we must ask the unfortunate lawyers of the office of Lech Miller.
    1. Kasym 28 December 2019 18: 30 New
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      It seems to me that there are some agreements between Zelensky and Putin in Paris that are not announced.
      At least Putin said that all of Kiev’s financial claims to Moscow are nonsense. And then somehow I quickly “signed up”. hi
      1. Alexey from Perm 28 December 2019 18: 35 New
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        maybe ... it's hard for us to judge
      2. Svarog 28 December 2019 18: 57 New
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        It seems to me that there are some agreements between Zelensky and Putin in Paris that are not announced.

        Do you think that nevertheless a multi-path?
        1. Kasym 28 December 2019 19: 16 New
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          Vladimir, hi ! Without a doubt.
          Kiev will not be able to suspend gas transit after such a cash-drive. But he is needed so far - the alternative in Asia is not quite ready. Beijing needs about 100 billion, Seoul 20 billion (import 40 billion), and Tokyo 50 billion (import 100 billion) and there are interests in India. The EU will be forced to revise its relations with Russia ...
          "Energy is the basis of the economy of any country."
          Germany, for example, is going to remove the last poison. power unit and will purchase electricity abroad ...
          Maybe this "bribe" for Zelensky so that he fulfilled the Minsk agreements? So you can assume as much as you like.
          When the society of your country is split, then you will knowingly want to keep something secret — it is convenient for Zelensky not to disclose negotiations with Putin.
    2. Crimean partisan 1974 28 December 2019 18: 45 New
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      The most annoying thing is that the money will be at the disposal of the most hostile state ..... this hostile under-state will return this loot to Gazprom by reverse from the geurops, they know how to count the loot and rip it off, so Lyokha Miller will sponsor not only the Crimean bridge, but many other communications Well, thanks to Gazprom for our Crystal Bridge and the car and railway lines, and along the way we’ll see something new, evil tongues say that they will still pull the power line with Kerch-Dzhankoy, about 70 years old residents dreamed about it
  31. tank64rus 28 December 2019 18: 18 New
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    And a green parrot. As one German general said in a report to Adolf: "So we will be victorious in Russia before our own death."
  32. sevryuk 28 December 2019 18: 18 New
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    I would say since the time of Nikita Sergeevich. He gave Crimea to Ukraine.

    He presented the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic of the Ukrainian SSR - this is about the same as redevelopment in the apartment. But Crimea and other Russian regions were seized by Kravchuk with the help of EBN (as well as their successors) when he made capital walls from partitions.
  33. xomaNN 28 December 2019 18: 19 New
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    You should not underestimate this cunning and clever Foreign Ministry aunt. It would just be interesting who personally opposed her from growing up. Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Often the slurred reaction of our diplomats in Russian-Ukrainian. deep the fight was just depressing.

    And by the way, that her from uk..r. The Foreign Ministry was removed. The enemy is dangerous. It is better for the Russian Federation if any stubborn nat. concerned uk. in her place will be. hi
  34. ⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo⁣ 28 December 2019 18: 21 New
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    The colony rejoices in the success of the metropolis in the struggle with its free neighbor.
  35. sevryuk 28 December 2019 18: 23 New
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    Quote: Old Horseradish
    Two fraternal countries - Ukraine and Russia, with a single, in fact, people, clung to each other's throats.

    We are not fraternal countries - we are divided by the "Zhidobandera" and their Anglo-Saxon and Roman-German masters. Those who support them are at great risk.
    1. ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo 28 December 2019 21: 22 New
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      People forget the truth so quickly. It should be reminded more often
  36. gorskova.irina 28 December 2019 18: 37 New
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    Yes, let yourself jump from happiness from such a “breakthrough”. Why should we feed the parasites who surrendered? Why do we need troughs that fly off with their slivers of wood. And the happiness of the fact that it is “independent” is all the same “stagnant” from Russia, because of the pipe, then their enthusiasm should already surpass all possible enthusiasms. In general, that's all sad. It is sad that such "mirrors" from Ukraine (I believe under the very strict guidance of overseas curators) did not understand what. Moreover, murderers are made from young people, forcing them to shoot at people of Donbass.
  37. K-50 28 December 2019 18: 43 New
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    Zerkal considers the first “help” to be the return by Russia of the Navy sailors and ships to Ukraine - by decision of the international maritime tribunal.

    And what should we feed them for free before the end of time? belay
    let them eat you around. yes fellow lol
    Did the Maritime Tribunal take place at all, or did you see another “prophetic dream”? lol
  38. Yuri Mikhailovsky 28 December 2019 19: 00 New
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    Well, if we did not know them, we would be surprised.
  39. Tests 28 December 2019 19: 02 New
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    NOVATEK considers: the construction of the railway Bovanenkovo ​​- Sabbeta, expansion of gas production, its liquefaction and delivery of large volumes to Europe every year (on the website about icebreakers and gas carriers many times), the release of helium from the produced gas, work on the liquefied gas terminal in Vysotsk (the latter is not at all for a long time there was information on VO). Today it is planned to begin the development of new oil fields on the Yamal Peninsula.
    Miller, Michelson and Sechin do not agree among themselves at the same table with the Supreme?
    The Netherlands will soon be left without its gas, in 5-7 years, it has experience in the purchase of liquefied Russian. France has the same experience, took our gas cheaply and immediately sold it to the states at a high price. BP, like Total, works in many of our oil and gas projects. If Brexit nevertheless happens soon, BP will work with Russia more and more tightly, spitting on the EU and the states, its own shirt, it is known to be closer to the body ... Norwegians with gas and oil reserves are not doing well, they end ... There is still no winter in Arkhangelsk, from 114 -120 berths of the Arkhangelsk seaport clean water vessels go to Yamal one by one ...
    But whether the gas transportation system of Ukraine and its oil pipelines will withstand another year, two or three, with those pennies that efficient managers in embroidered shirts allocate to support them - A big secret for a small, for a small such company, For a small such company, such a huge secret. ...
    Turkish stream is being built.
    So wait and see ...
    What really annoys is the state of Ukrainian nuclear power plants. If only the tragedy of Chernobyl did not happen again ...
  40. parusnik 28 December 2019 19: 04 New
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    Yeah .... I remember, they said a lot: we will turn off the gas, we won’t pay ... We haven’t turned off the gas for another five years, we’ll read it in the morning, read RIA Novosti, wrote about it .. And that’s how the USA and Europe “mine” they don’t give up ... But Russia is a stranger at this celebration of life ... But we are rushing into "our own" ... At all kinds of international economic forums, we officially declare that we need to strengthen economic ties with Western partners and how Western investments are needed .. And Russia, partners are dipping it in the Olympics, then in unleashing the WWII ... And it’s very interesting with sanctions, they renew it every six months ... Like: didn’t change your mind? .. No? .. Then you’ll get another six months ... We, sir, we’ll wait, sir ... We’ve been brought into permanent use ... They play like a cat with a mouse, large ... as if they are waiting for it to either dry out or jump into its mouth ... And now, back to the news ... let's count 3 a lard of credit to Yanukovych, they won’t return us, plus 2,9 lard from Gazprom, a total of 5,9 lards .. to the wind ... But we have the Vanguards and Caliber ... like we wan ... all the world ... I’d like to know another meeting of the guarantor with the people, why does the word "happiness" not add up from the four letters "a", "f", "o", "p"? ... All members of the forum with the Upcoming ...
  41. 7,62h54 28 December 2019 19: 19 New
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    And Russia has a kukan, maybe it’s planting.
  42. Dzafdet 28 December 2019 19: 21 New
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    Before Mirror left the rostrum, Zelensky climbed onto it!
  43. Gennady Fomkin 28 December 2019 19: 55 New
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    In practice, nothing has stopped. The OGVZ pyramid is still working. laughing
  44. Gennady Fomkin 28 December 2019 19: 57 New
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    Nenuacho? Why does the colonial territory have so many energy capacities? The 2nd block of the Khmelnitsky NPP, the last greetings of the USSR, is a fresh VVER -1000 block, ... merged with the Polish Panamas, so it’s so shzhzh ... Ahead is the discharge of the remaining Zapadenba blocks, and then the South-Ukrainian NPP, at least to someone .. - pennies of boules .... Am I now touching on the USSR State Planning Commission to build a nuclear power plant in Galicia? What for ? for rogues?

    Ukrainian lobby? obviously..Embodied ukrokhabalki late USSR .... Therefore, it fell apart ... laughing
  45. gridasov 28 December 2019 20: 09 New
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    In terms of intelligence, these are just children! Ukrainian diplomacy is deprived of any level of forecasting and modeling situations.
  46. Karaul14 28 December 2019 20: 19 New
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    In 15, Medvedev talked about the complete cessation of transit through Ukraine, as a result, transit remains. A month ago (!) Of. RF officials said that 1 year, 15 billion cubic meters and provided that $ 3 billion were not paid, as a result, a contract for 5 years, 65-40 billion cubic meters per year and another 3 billion $ from above by court decision. + Even the theoretical completion of SP2 will not solve the problem, since the Turkish stream has been stung up to 2 pipes, and SP2 is now subject to 3 energy packages - transit through Ukraine still remains.
    Initially, confidently stated goals and their failure to clearly talk about a specific failure / defeat.
    1. Adimius38 28 December 2019 20: 36 New
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      Yes, we ride one failure, that in space, that in the economy, that in international relations, even with the ally of Belarus all the time a continuous squabble
    2. sabakina 28 December 2019 20: 56 New
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      Karaul14, while it's too early to scream the guard. Wait and wait ... wink
    3. Vadim237 29 December 2019 20: 14 New
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      LNG supplies to Europe also remain, but they will grow from year to year. Now Russia has 20% of the European market in LNG supplies and 45% for gas in general.
  47. Adimius38 28 December 2019 20: 34 New
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    they themselves gave them a reason to say so. now after a fight they don’t wave their fists
  48. sabakina 28 December 2019 20: 48 New
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    According to Zerkal, in 2019 Ukraine "won two very important victories over Russia." According to her, we are talking about victories in court.
    Calmly. nothing bad happened. Well, I was revised in the basements of the Soviet SBU ... This can happen to everyone laughing
  49. Ghoul 28 December 2019 20: 54 New
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    Simpotnaya woman, it is a pity that vrazhina.
  50. usr01 28 December 2019 21: 04 New
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    A guy would be her .... Normal ... So that bad thoughts would not go into your head ...