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Sina: Ambitious statements of the Russian Defense Ministry on the supply of Su-57 to the airborne forces are not destined to come true before the end of the year

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In the military section of the large Chinese information portal Sina, material was published that examined the situation with the fall of the Su-57 near Komsomolsk-on-Amur. The author informs readers that it was a fighter, which on December 27 they were going to put into service with the RF Armed Forces. It is additionally noted that the 5th generation fighter passed acceptance tests, which means that during the previous tests (numerous) no problems were found on the Su-57 (T-50).


Recall that, according to preliminary data, the plane crashed due to problems with the tail. What kind of problems are in question are not mentioned. There are no official comments from the Ministry of Defense and the manufacturer regarding the causes of the crash at this time.

Sina:

It becomes clear that the ambitious statement of the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation during a recent visit to the plant regarding the fact that the first batch of Su-57 will go to the Russian Air Force before the end of the year will not come true, as it is not destined to see the other side of the moon from the Earth (Chinese phraseology about the impossibility doing something, - note “IN”).

Further, following other Chinese publications on the issue of the fall of the Su-57, Sina writes:

The only positive point in this situation can be considered a clear operation of the ejection system, which allowed the pilot to leave the plane, falling into a tailspin.


The author of the material notes that earlier with the Su-57 (T-50) during the tests, problems also appeared:

In 2011, at the MAKS air show near the T-50, which was still a prototype, the engine suddenly caught fire. In 2013, the Su-57 also had problems with the engine. But then in Russia, these problems with power plants for new generation aircraft were eliminated. The fall of the Su-57 near Khabarovsk, apparently, is not related to the engine. Apparently, the problems were in the flight control system. And that can't be good. news for the manufacturer.


Chinese users, meanwhile, noted the fact that the Russian Su-57 was tested several times in Syria, where it did not cause any serious complaints.
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      1. RUSS
        RUSS 28 December 2019 08: 56 New
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        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        For years, there have been flights in different modes, and here you are!

        This has never happened, and here it is again.
        1. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 28 December 2019 09: 33 New
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          Are you hinting at a possible diversion?
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 28 December 2019 18: 39 New
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            Quote: Chaldon48
            Are you hinting at a possible diversion?

            Is everything really so bad and again no one is in anything sad guilty and will not pay
        2. Mar.Tirah
          Mar.Tirah 28 December 2019 12: 10 New
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          Quote: RUSS
          This has never happened, and here it is again.

          We don’t have to gloat on the example of the Chinese. We don’t know anything about the accident. Maybe it’s not a plinth nut, like we had with the rocket launcher. And still nothing has been torn, but of course you have to strain. The technologies have been developed, components and qualified personnel are in place so the work continues.
          1. Karaul73
            Karaul73 28 December 2019 22: 35 New
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            This platitude costs millions !!!
            This indicates a complete collapse of quality management systems for manufactured products. And, of course, they will not punish anyone. We don’t leave our own!
            1. Mar.Tirah
              Mar.Tirah 29 December 2019 08: 13 New
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              Quote: Sentry73
              And, of course, they will not punish anyone. We don’t leave our own!

              Besides punishment, besides the deprivation of bonuses for the year, quarter to the new year of the whole team, the heads of the whole chain will be flown along which the marriage will be revealed as a result of the investigation. Believe me, of course there is no complete collapse, but it’s very difficult to get up from your knees after so many years of destruction. Here I agree.
      2. Errr
        Errr 28 December 2019 08: 56 New
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        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Alternatively, a glitch in the computer brain of a fighter is possible.
        If you believe that:
        ... the stabilizers are in extreme opposite positions ...
        then nothing but a software failure EMDS KSU-50 comes to mind. request
        1. Bar2
          Bar2 28 December 2019 08: 59 New
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          Quote: Herrr
          then nothing but a software failure comes to mind


          why so? Just the same thing comes. The control system failed due to the fact that there were American microcircuits that worked the way the Americans needed.
          1. maidan.izrailovich
            maidan.izrailovich 28 December 2019 09: 40 New
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            The control system failed due to the fact that there were American microcircuits that worked the way the Americans needed.

            Then why didn’t they (microcircuits) work in Syria? When the Su-57 were there. Indeed, for the Americans it would be just a gift. Capture the newest Russian fighter. Yes, moral compensation for the capture of our "axes".
            I doubt your version.
            1. Bar2
              Bar2 28 December 2019 09: 41 New
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              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              I doubt your version.

              as Shoigu said about this, no one knew, and even we, so ask the Americans.
            2. littoral
              littoral 28 December 2019 09: 54 New
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              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              Yes, moral compensation for the capture of our "axes".

              And there they captured the "axes"?
      3. Pied Piper
        Pied Piper 28 December 2019 08: 57 New
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        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Alternatively, a glitch in the computer brain of a fighter is possible. The boy from the technical service with a laptop in his hands before the flight, incorrectly downloaded something. Today they are more important than gray-haired mechanics.

        Perhaps, as with the GLONASS missiles .. (the plug was inserted in the wrong place, etc.))))
        And what about the boys? Between shooters probably worked and do not prove ....
        1. D16
          D16 28 December 2019 09: 36 New
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          Perhaps, as with the GLONASS missiles .. (the plug was inserted in the wrong place, etc.))))
          And what about the boys? Between shooters probably worked and do not prove

          “Each accident has a name, surname and position.” (C) Kaganovich.
          1. Pied Piper
            Pied Piper 28 December 2019 15: 54 New
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            Quote: D16
            “Each accident has a name, surname and position.” (C) Kaganovich.

            Yes, yes!
            1. D16
              D16 28 December 2019 16: 33 New
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              The fact is that the word “first” has an aftertaste of political order (the program will not stop, but will cause seething of shit) and the word “serial” removes excuses for incompleteness. So I think they will sort it out in a narrow circle and without us.
  2. Azazelo
    Azazelo 28 December 2019 08: 38 New
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    the Chinese are crowing? they didn’t really take part in any war, from Japan they received it in full with real genocide in addition. Neither military history nor experience, nothing at all. They also decided to teach us and build forecasts.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 December 2019 09: 05 New
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      Quote: Azazelo
      the Chinese are crowing?

      Therefore, they crow as no matter with the 5th generation aircraft, 28 pieces of Chengdu J-20 and they are actively using them, and without any accident
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 28 December 2019 09: 32 New
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        Oh these?
        So no one knows what kind of generation they really are.
        They then lie much, almost like Jews.
        1. knn54
          knn54 28 December 2019 10: 54 New
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          Sergey, by and large:
          -No radar AFAR;
          - there is no engine with which you can fly without afterburner at supersonic speed, which affects the stealth of the aircraft. T.E. belonging to the 5th generation.
          - "35" and yes and "20" are smooth, and on "57" there are solid ledges and rivets. What with such forms of stealth.
          First you need to bring everything to mind. And then just build it. Yes, and there seems to be no money without Indians
          The VKS is now COMPLETELY enough of an excellent SU-35.
          PS I also remember the five-year plan for three years.
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 28 December 2019 12: 08 New
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            -Afar radar is, already and ppm produced more than 25000 units
            - and on the engine of the 1st stage, cruising supersonic without afterburner is provided
            - there are no projections at 57, rivets are at 35 and at 22
            Ours have not yet used the tape at 57, as provided.
            As with aromas, they wanted to have a link by May 9
          2. Durman_54
            Durman_54 28 December 2019 13: 33 New
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            Rivets
            Have you ever seen a penguin without a radio-absorbing coating? I recommend, very impressive.
            The afterburner supersonic was implemented on the Su-35. A 57th and smaller, and the engine is more powerful there. Is that aerodynamics to please the stealth screwed up, but it's literally a fortune-telling on coffee grounds.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 28 December 2019 10: 58 New
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          Quote: Mestny
          Oh these?
          So no one knows what kind of generation they really are.
          They then lie much, almost like Jews.

          An air expert, a former designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Vadim Lukashevich, on the air of the NSN, explained why the Su-57 cannot yet be considered fifth-generation aircraft.

          “Fifth generation aircraft have three key indicators. This is a supersonic cruising speed, low visibility and the combination of all aircraft systems into a single complex. If we compare American aircraft with ours, then ours is not the fifth generation yet. It still does not meet the indicator for stealth, it needs to be brought up. There are no full-time engines that will allow you to match in speed. The Americans, if we talk about the F-22, it’s a full-fledged fifth-generation aircraft, ”he explained.
          1. Johann Klassen
            Johann Klassen 28 December 2019 14: 16 New
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            And how many mowers and foreheads have the customer (I) of such a valuable opinion rolled off this “former” leading designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau Lukashevich?
            But is it possible to exclude the possibility of applying someone’s hands, or someone’s mistake?
            Apparently or not, one can only find out in the case of a test, in the format of military operations of any nature.
      2. maidan.izrailovich
        maidan.izrailovich 28 December 2019 09: 44 New
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        ... no 5th generation aircraft already have 28

        And who determined that they are the 9th generation?
        1. littoral
          littoral 28 December 2019 09: 56 New
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          Quote: maidan.izrailovich
          ... no 5th generation aircraft already have 28

          And who determined that they are the 9th generation?

          And who defined the fifth generation of the Su-57?
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 28 December 2019 10: 58 New
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            Quote: littoral
            And who defined the fifth generation of the Su-57?

            4 +++
      3. Muvka
        Muvka 28 December 2019 09: 46 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Azazelo
        the Chinese are crowing?

        Therefore, they crow as no matter with the 5th generation aircraft, 28 pieces of Chengdu J-20 and they are actively using them, and without any accident

        And where do they use them so actively? What conflicts? Su-57 at least once in Syria visited more than once, and these where noted?
        1. Tuk77
          Tuk77 28 December 2019 10: 19 New
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          And what marked the Su-57 in Syria, let me ask?
          The fact that he came off the ground? So he could do it at a test aerodrome in Russia.
          Did he break through air defense? Participated in air battles?
          The enemy not only had no fighters or air defense, there was not even a simple MANPADS.
          So our falcons flew there freely and safely.
          Nothing to brag about.
          1. Johann Klassen
            Johann Klassen 28 December 2019 14: 29 New
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            And did the American or Israeli, as well as the Chinese Luftwaffe aces, take part in the hostilities, with the criteria and in the conditions that you presented to the Russian Su-57?
            Can bombing missiles and bombs against hospitals and weddings, and Afghan, Iraqi and Syrian civilians, be it the fifth generation?
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 00 New
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          Quote: Muvka
          And where do they use them so actively?

          Teachings.
          Quote: Muvka
          Su-57 at least once in Syria visited

          And what follows from this? SU 57 in Syria participated in air battles or broke through modern air defense?
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 28 December 2019 12: 56 New
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            In fact, he launched tactical missiles Gadfly in Syria. F-22 is not capable of this.
      4. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 December 2019 10: 26 New
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        Quote: Azazelo
        the Chinese are crowing?

        Quote: RUSS
        They therefore crow as they already have airplanes

        In the East there is such a proverb: every donkey can kick a dead lion.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 28 December 2019 18: 24 New
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      Neither military history nor experience
      You are too categorical. The military experience of the New, Modern, and Modern times is really not enough for them. At an earlier time there is plenty of it.
    3. dauria
      dauria 28 December 2019 20: 30 New
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      didn’t really take part in any war,


      Yah ? The Chinese pulled out the Korean War. That they lost more than 120 thousand infantry. And their American pilots beat not much worse than ours. And there are aces. And in Vietnam there were their MiG-19 and MiG-17, along with advisers to Chinese pilots and techies. And the Vietnamese were valued no less than ours. So take them seriously. And then you will get a surprise, as once the Germans in the 41st.
  3. Crystal of Truth
    Crystal of Truth 28 December 2019 08: 39 New
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    Ambitious plans are 1 (one) plane!
    1. Thompson
      Thompson 28 December 2019 14: 02 New
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      Well yes - there is no Crimean bridge either, Mosmultfilm!
  4. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 28 December 2019 08: 44 New
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    Well, I don’t know ... They talked about the Crimean bridge, talked about the Vanguard, and so on and so forth ... And the caravan goes on.
    1. Pied Piper
      Pied Piper 28 December 2019 08: 59 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      And the caravan is coming.

      It is, so far, slowly, but cries to the whole world about the Russian threat .. wink
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 02 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      About the Crimean bridge

      And what is unusual or technological in it? The price is yes, higher than other similar projects abroad.
  5. Tomich3
    Tomich3 28 December 2019 08: 49 New
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    And how many fighters of the 5th generation did the Chinese put in their army? Pot calls the kettle black.
    1. Professor
      Professor 28 December 2019 10: 04 New
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      Quote: Tomic3
      And how many fighters of the 5th generation did the Chinese put in their army? Pot calls the kettle black.

      9 prototypes and 20 pre-production samples (the first series of 28 fighters in active use)
      Everything is fine with the cow. fellow
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 28 December 2019 11: 09 New
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        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Tomic3
        Pot calls the kettle black.

        Everything is fine with the cow. fellow

        Yeah. like in a cartoon ...

        - Therefore, we can conclude that there is a cow without milk, but there is no milk without a cow.
        (c) It was in Penkov.
      2. Tomich3
        Tomich3 28 December 2019 13: 05 New
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        So we also have 10 prototypes. I have serial deliveries. The Chinese do not have them.
        1. Professor
          Professor 28 December 2019 13: 50 New
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          Quote: Tomic3
          The first series of 28 fighters in active use

          a series of 28 fighters in active use
      3. Tomich3
        Tomich3 28 December 2019 13: 08 New
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        Algeria signed a contract for the purchase of 14 Russian fifth-generation multi-functional fighters Su-57E and 14 front-line bombers Su-34. This was reported by the Menadefense portal.
        And what about the Chinese?
      4. askort154
        askort154 28 December 2019 13: 45 New
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        Professor....9 prototypes and 20 pre-production samples (the first series of 28 fighters in active use)
        Everything is fine with the cow.

        And if you count per capita ?! wink hi
        1. Professor
          Professor 28 December 2019 13: 51 New
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          Quote: askort154
          Professor....9 prototypes and 20 pre-production samples (the first series of 28 fighters in active use)
          Everything is fine with the cow.

          And if you count per capita ?! wink hi

          That Israel is ahead of the rest ... laughing
          1. askort154
            askort154 28 December 2019 13: 59 New
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            Professor....That Israel is ahead of the rest ...

            That's for sure ! Israel is 40 years old on foot by Moses. wink
            1. Professor
              Professor 28 December 2019 14: 03 New
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              Professor....That Israel is ahead of the rest ...

              That's for sure ! "Planet Israel" in size - 40 years of walking searches by Moses. wink

              You are mistaken. Moshe drove the Jews around Sinai and he himself never set foot on the land of Israel. He only had a chance to look at Israel from the side of present Jordan.
              1. askort154
                askort154 28 December 2019 14: 14 New
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                Professor....You are mistaken. Moshe drove the Jews around Sinai and he himself never set foot on the land of Israel. He only had a chance to look at Israel from the side of present Jordan.

                That is, Moshe already bred, even his fellow tribesmen.
                Clear ! What, then, remains for Abgama to do ?!
                Only - to breed all, and all! Pedigree continuity! crying
                1. Professor
                  Professor 28 December 2019 14: 16 New
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                  Quote: askort154
                  Professor....You are mistaken. Moshe drove the Jews around Sinai and he himself never set foot on the land of Israel. He only had a chance to look at Israel from the side of present Jordan.

                  That is, Moshe already bred, even his fellow tribesmen.
                  Clear ! What, then, remains for Abgama to do ?!
                  Only - to breed all, and all! Pedigree continuity! crying

                  Abraham is the ancestor of Moshe. You would have to learn the materiel. Maybe they would write less nonsense. hi
                  1. askort154
                    askort154 28 December 2019 14: 23 New
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                    Professor....Avraham is the ancestor of Moshe. You would have to learn the materiel. Maybe they would write less nonsense.

                    "Both the auknitsa and the response woman" - learn Russian sayings.
                    And I know my pro-materiel no worse than any "professor"
                    And who, Abraham or Moisha bred you - these are your problems. yes hi
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 28 December 2019 14: 25 New
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                      Quote: askort154
                      Professor....Avraham is the ancestor of Moshe. You would have to learn the materiel. Maybe they would write less nonsense.

                      Both the auknitsa and the respondent - learn Russian sayings.
                      And I know my pro-materiel no worse than any "professor" yes hi

                      So and stay in it, in your "pro-materiel". hi
                      1. askort154
                        askort154 28 December 2019 14: 54 New
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                        Professor...So and stay in it, in your "pro-materiel".

                        My "pro-materiel" does not need moralizing
                        false "professors". Obviously, I didn’t take myself such a "nickname" out of great mind. My first comment-joke, you turned into a skirmish.
                        Think Monya, think before you go to the "badass" yes hi
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 28 December 2019 15: 02 New
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                        Quote: askort154
                        Professor...So and stay in it, in your "pro-materiel".

                        My "pro-materiel" does not need moralizing
                        false "professors". Obviously, I didn’t take myself such a "nickname" out of great mind. My first comment-joke, you turned into a skirmish.
                        Think Monya, think before you go to the "badass" yes hi

                        1. They didn’t switch to “you”.
                        2. The joke failed.
                      3. askort154
                        askort154 28 December 2019 15: 13 New
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                        Professor.....
                        1 On the "you" did not go.
                        2. The joke failed.

                        And is that, offensively, for a real man?
                        Or am I wrong? Then, excuse me crying
                      4. Professor
                        Professor 28 December 2019 16: 16 New
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                        Quote: askort154
                        Professor.....
                        1 On the "you" did not go.
                        2. The joke failed.

                        And is that, offensively, for a real man?
                        Or am I wrong? Then, excuse me crying

                        Nothing offensive. Nevertheless, we are not friends or relatives and, accordingly, according to the rules of decency ....
  • RUSS
    RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 02 New
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    Quote: Tomic3
    And how many fighters of the 5th generation did the Chinese put in their army?

    Almost 30 pcs
  • rocket757
    rocket757 28 December 2019 09: 18 New
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    It is better to CHECK a hundred times than there will be ... problems, a threat to our winged ones!
    We didn’t have time and all right, not to the fire.
  • bar
    bar 28 December 2019 09: 21 New
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    Again, this uninhabited "large Chinese information portal Sina" with its iksperdy sad
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 03 New
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      Quote: bar
      Again, this uninhabited "large Chinese information portal Sina" with its iksperdy sad

      Well, you know better laughing
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 28 December 2019 09: 23 New
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    This Chinese edition of Sina, a provocateur, was boggling, and in general a country that has no combat experience, really did not participate in wars, constantly received lyuley from Japan, suddenly imagines itself to be a military superpower ???? Their entire defense industry is plagiarism, and China is a big copy machine, there are no proprietary developments, only other people's reworked technologies.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 04 New
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      Quote: Alexey-74
      Zadolbalo is a Chinese edition of Sina, a provocateur,

      Of course, the vice-rector and liar, not like our media wink
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 42 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        Of course, the vice-rector and liar, not like our media

        Provocateur *
  • littoral
    littoral 28 December 2019 09: 53 New
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    Chinese users, meanwhile, noted the fact that the Russian Su-57 was tested several times in Syria, where it did not cause any serious complaints.

    And what “any minor complaints” did they evoke?
    And how can an airplane not yet accepted for service be sent to another country for a database? What does international law say about this?
  • donavi49
    donavi49 28 December 2019 09: 57 New
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    how it is not destined from Earth to see the other side of the moon (Chinese phraseologism about the impossibility of doing something - approx.


    By the way - at night there was a passing test CZ-5. After the accident in 2017, the heavy carrier returned to duty. The satellite was put into orbit, everything worked out normally.






    This means that in Q2 2020 5t satellite with a landing platform - Huoxing-1 will fly to Mars.
    It also means that the lunar station for the collection and return of soil Chanye 5 more will not be tolerated.
    This rocket is also key in the program. Tianhe - orbital station.

    Total 34 launch in a year from the Chinese comrades, and ExPace will finish this figure to 35 tomorrow, with a load of private owners Galaxy Space.
  • bober1982
    bober1982 28 December 2019 10: 00 New
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    Sina writes ........
    But in Soviet times, joked ........ as the newspaper Zhenmin Ribao said
    Not only decades pass, epochs change - but nothing has changed.
  • Sayan
    Sayan 28 December 2019 10: 09 New
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    The fact that it was this aircraft that was subsequently sent to the troops was screamed only by the Chinese, who themselves did not create anything, riveting clones (and worthless) of foreign equipment, other sources say that the plane belonged to the plant and was test and this seems more like the truth. How cross-eyed to know what kind of aircraft it was, except for the type? Lately the ducks have been lounging lately, apparently their crafts in fact do not correspond to the declared characteristics.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 December 2019 10: 22 New
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      01 blue fell. And the pilot Aleksey Gorshkov - does not work on the engine refinement program, but only on-board flight.

      The T-50S-1 aircraft was planned for transfer to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on December 25, 2019, and on December 27 the Ministry of Defense planned an official presentation of the aircraft.

      On the morning of December 24, 2019, during the next test flight, the first production model of the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter crashed (T-50S-1 aircraft, serial number 51001, board number "01 blue"), built by Komsomolsky-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin (KnAAZ, a branch of PJSC "Company" Sukhoi ") for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

      All planes - Factory. But after the transfer, the board would become the Moscow Region, and if it fell a day or two later, then this is already a loss of the Ministry of Defense.
  • Bear040
    Bear040 28 December 2019 10: 12 New
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    Lord, how much joy the Russophobes caused one crashed Su-57 ... Remember your crashed F-35s more often ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 December 2019 10: 26 New
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      Well here comes the question of quantity and plaque. 737 have the most accidents and disasters in the world - but there are 11 thousand of them. And if you count on the clock, then what thread Tu-154 or even the SSZH will be much more dangerous.

      Also here:
      Already raised 455 F-35 including prototypes. This is more than the VKS has received new aircraft of all types over the past 5 years.

      Lost 2 aircraft (2018 and 2019).
      1. Bear040
        Bear040 28 December 2019 10: 32 New
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        Everything is not so clear. It is necessary to watch a raid on a specific crashed plane, in addition, the Yankees like to hide their accidents ... So for example information about accidents with radiation leaks at the first US Nautilus nuclear submarine is very difficult to find, but they were there, they changed the crew several times .. The submarine was, in fact, an experimental one, a nuclear reactor was thrust into the diesel submarine’s body without really knowing what radiation protection the crew needed
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 28 December 2019 10: 27 New
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      A year ago, the American F-18, when refueling, literally demolished the tanker along with the crew, which the Americans very sparingly reported, the modest tanker crew was modestly silent, and only a year later, they also modestly announced some details. We must take an example from them, or from the same Chinese — they are also silent, these aircraft fall — so even the type of aircraft is not reported.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 28 December 2019 10: 30 New
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        So, there wasn’t much choice. After 3 days, a presentation was to take place for the federal media. Plus, again, the age is not the same. Before official announcements, already at specialized forums (such as Avia), topics appeared, something fell from the factory airfield and a search operation is in progress (all kinds of radio spots are connected there). In general, do not hide this.

        The Americans are simpler, because in the ocean, only if the Whales take selfies on the refueling air and take pictures in Kitonet.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 05 New
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      Lord, how much joy the Russophobes caused one crashed Su-57 ... Remember your crashed F-35s more often ...

      And here is an American plane?
  • egor1712
    egor1712 28 December 2019 10: 29 New
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    Yes, I do not care about the opinion of the Chinese comrades. Let them deal with their problems. Specials horseradish ...
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 December 2019 10: 45 New
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    Did the Chinese see the far side of the moon? Their fake with the alleged launch of a lunar rover there is one fairy tale with the "landing of astronauts on the moon"!
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 28 December 2019 11: 50 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Did the Chinese see the far side of the moon? Their fake with the alleged launch of a lunar rover there is one fairy tale with the "landing of astronauts on the moon"!


      Why immediately fake? Dissatisfaction with the Chinese in this topic is understandable, but it is not worth belittling their merits because the space program is developing at a rapid pace and none of the major space powers (NASA, EKA, Roscosmos, etc.) are sending the rover to the far side of the moon denies, and the time is different now, all launches are recorded and their trajectory is monitored, so objectively this is not a fake.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 December 2019 13: 24 New
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      The Chinese car passed only 320 m. With several stops. But this is because
      On a moonlit night, the temperature there drops to minus 190 degrees Celsius.
      At night, the lunar rover is stopped, during the day it is launched again. Behind the Lunokhod
      constantly monitors a special Chinese repeater satellite, which for the first time
      managed to "establish" in a lunar-stationary orbit above the dark side of the moon.
      Even this satellite alone is a great scientific and technological achievement.
      The lunar rover transmitted interesting images of unusual minerals on the lunar surface.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 28 December 2019 10: 56 New
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    The pilot is alive and well, this is the main thing! The loss of an airplane, a big nuisance, but any technique is not reliable. The Chinese naturally want to give everyone their fifth generation, but we will bring our 57 to mind. We have hurt both experience and knowledge with desire! I wish all involved in this project success and good luck!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 December 2019 11: 43 New
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      Quote: Alien From
      but we will bring our 57 to mind. We have hurt both experience and knowledge with desire! I wish all involved in this project success and good luck!

      The hardships are no longer enough, and with experience problems
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 28 December 2019 11: 46 New
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        So now, quit and not do it ??
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 28 December 2019 13: 26 New
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          Quote: Alien From
          So now, quit and not do it ??

          Do
  • Doctor
    Doctor 28 December 2019 12: 01 New
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    The worst part is that the problems seem to be true with the tail. And that means, perhaps with the strength of a glider. And what will happen in battle, at critical overloads, with a powerful engine brought up?
  • Flawless
    Flawless 28 December 2019 12: 06 New
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    Nenad should think of nothing, otherwise it will turn out as a civilian MS that they just didn’t talk about him and that he flies worse than others and maybe better. And who was torn by American gossip, and our liberal trepachki. But in the end, the highly reliable Boeings themselves are falling from the sky like rain, and the airbags are not lagging behind even though they fly and fall not in the first year. And one MS collapsed yet circumstances of the disaster failed to find out immediately became bad. Also with the SU-57. They talk about ours, but you don’t learn to fly your penguin-35 and raptor-22 is not much better, although yesterday also can’t escape from it, I’m not talking about SU-35, it’s better for both of them in battle stumble for a long time
  • Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 28 December 2019 12: 22 New
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    The Chinese are gloating because they are jealous of our successes, alas, in the military sphere, they can’t catch up with us .... This means one thing. It is necessary to rest, it is necessary to bring the plane, it is necessary to mass produce and sell to the allies in the international market ... It is necessary to learn how to fight and fight and win on it. This is the best answer to all these hooting about our failures. I don’t understand one thing. Where in our country is there so much decadent-minded, who does not believe in his people and country? What do you whine continuously and grunt like grandfathers 80? AND? And grandfathers will be stronger than you in spirit. My father, in his 78 years, believed in Russia and Russians, was happy about any success, and was annoyed about the failures. His kingdom is not heaven. These are the whiners and little believers who have flooded all the comments. Either patriotism beaten off, fermented - or continuous acid ... And even that is harmful
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 28 December 2019 14: 45 New
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    The one who does nothing is not mistaken ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 December 2019 16: 16 New
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    Each vegetable has its own time. Russians slowly harness, but drive fast. Learn Russian proverbs and sayings and shake on the mustache, the Chinese.
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 28 December 2019 17: 24 New
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    Every Chinese sandpiper praises his swamp without seeing the same lack and problems in him, his mother’s ideals are by the foot, but in Russia everything is bad and the swamp is deeper and more insidious than water am
  • Rusj
    Rusj 28 December 2019 19: 40 New
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    And what have these poor Chinese since the time of gunpowder invented something for themselves ??? Not stolen, not redeemed. Nothing !!! A country with 5 thousand years of history has turned into an envious thief! And by chance, supposedly an economic miracle!
    Why on the site are printed nonsense of Chinese liberoids who envy and hate Russia ???
  • Klingon
    Klingon 28 December 2019 21: 41 New
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    epprst here are the Chinese, well, they have a straight flies and it is them. the Ji-20 with squalid aerodynamics is just a flying Pepelander, - the Penguin flopped off of the samurai so that neither the pilot nor his helmet was found and they are silent about it, but how are we gloating so, * friends *
  • 川 建国
    川 建国 28 December 2019 22: 43 New
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    When you watch Chinese online news, make sure that you look at authors known and experienced media, because in China there are many online editors who do not have a single level that could be used only to wind on them Clicks China's military enthusiasts are mostly active in "tieba"and in various military forums. We deeply regret the crash of the SU57, and we all believe that it was an accident and have no doubt about the design of the SU57.