US fight against hypersonic CD and PCB: the process is more important than the result

US fight against hypersonic CD and PCB: the process is more important than the result

The United States is concerned not only with catching up with Russia (or even China) in the field of hypersonic missiles and maneuvering and planning winged warheads, but also with the task of defense against such systems.


How to solve an unsolvable problem?


The United States Missile Defense Agency (MDA) held a recently closed meeting with representatives of the defense industry at its headquarters in Alabama to discuss ideas for dealing with virtually invulnerable hypersonic targets.

At a closed meeting, the fundamentals of the program were described, which they called the "Regional defense system from hypersonic gliders" (as the Americans call maneuvering combat units (MBB), guided combat units (UBB) and planning winged units (PKB), such as our 15Y71, adopted into service and entered into combat duty as part of the Avangard DBK with ICBMs 15A35-71).

Although the details about the program were scarce, its name may provide some clues. Tom Karako, director of the missile defense project at CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies, another think tank nonprofit center) said that "they (the United States Defense Ministry - Author) are planning to build only a regional defense system against such weapons, not a national one."

The fact is that existing and promising American missile attack warning systems (SPRN, although it is customary to call the American system SPRNU), space-based PCBs are practically not detected. And this goal is not available for over-the-horizon SPRN radars: PCBs fly at altitudes like 60-80 km and appear in the detection zone of such radars even when it’s not too late to drink mineral water when it’s damaged health, but you can even read “Our Father” and do not have time. Therefore, Americans are thinking about building at least a regional system. And, probably, not from intercontinental systems with an average speed of the same 71st more than 20M, but when up to 27M. And from simpler systems, at the regional level - the speeds there are completely different, and the ability to maneuver in course and altitude is also radically lower, and "gliding jumps" or, if you want, "pebbles jumping in water" from the Earth’s atmosphere are also unavailable - speeds will not be enough.

But even a hypersonic anti-ship missile with a speed of 5M or more is an extremely inconvenient goal for the Pentagon, the task of defeating which is not yet solved by the means available to the Americans. For them and with supersonic anti-ship missiles, everything is very complicated so far, although there is some result. And with hypersonic everything is very bad, but in the USA they understand that this weapon not only against ships, but also on the national territory of the United States may well be used. "At decision centers," as the Russian president put it.

Michael Griffin, the notorious missile defense agency chief, a well-known master of "budget utilization" on everything from space to missile defense, said the following earlier:

If war starts tomorrow, we probably will not and cannot destroy hypersonic missiles and glider gliders.


Excuse me, Mr. Griffin, and if the war starts in 3-4 years, can you? And in 10 years? And what about protection from conventional warheads (BB) of ICBMs and SLBMs, have you already solved this problem?

"We have no protection that could save if such a weapon were used against us,"

Said General John Haiten, the then Pentagon Strategic Command Commander, in the Senate Armed Forces Committee in March 2018.

Heiten was recently appointed deputy chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (USNSC), which is good on the one hand - he is a very adequate person, on the other - he began to promote such programs.

Collection of concepts and suggestions


In September, the MDA narrowed the list of potential applicants for participation in the program to create the above system. They turned out to be, as usual, Lockheed Martin with their Valkyrie Interceptor Terminal Hypersonic Defense concept, Boeing with Hypervelocity Interceptor (HYVINT) Concept for Hypersonic Weapons, Raytheon with SM3-HAWK missile defense, and Raytheon's idea for non-kinetic weapons. Some of our media outlets hastened to burst into headlines and texts like “Zircon”, they beat the “Valkyrie” and pearls of the type:

Over eight months, more than $ 13 million will be spent, and under the terms of the contract, a next-generation anti-missile defense system must be created that can intercept hypersonic missiles and provide effective containment of the main rivals that America and Russia consider China.


Of course, no one whips anyone, no one gives birth to anything in 8 months, doesn’t create and test anything, all the more for such a penny - this is only an early stage in the advancement of concepts. Before at least some embodiment in the prototype years will pass, and very long. And it is very likely that the sense of these projects will be like a goat with milk. They will open, as usual, a new tender and all will go on a new one. On the other hand, DARPA, which puts forward the concept of Glide Breaker, is sawing a budget pie to combat what it is unlikely to be able to fight.

Griffin also said that the creation of a low-orbit space tracking constellation aimed at low-flying hypersonic cruise missiles and PCBs is a top priority. He stated something, but it would be worth recalling how the epic of the same Missile Defense Agency for creating the STSS low-orbit space system ended up with, which faced complex, but much simpler tasks than indicated. But nothing came of STSS as a key component of the US missile defense system. Shortly before her inglorious death, it was renamed PTSS, simplifying the task, but the truncated program also "did not take off." Recently, by the way, they decided to exhume the body of PTSS, obviously, they want to try once again to push through a non-working concept. And now, suddenly, an even larger and less solvable task in principle. You can spend a lot of money - and this is important. And the result is not so, apparently, important, even if it is negative - all key figures are not interested in creating systems, but in constant work on them. Anyway, Michael Griffin gets away with everything, since the time of his art as head of NASA.

Technologies valuable for cutting, but not for business


Griffin also said the Pentagon is considering things such as directional energy weapons, such as the potential placement of EMI emitters on missile defense interceptors, "to fry the electronics of hypersonic weapons." Someone needs to fry the head, maybe wise thoughts will appear in it. It is foolish to count on the instability of the warhead for the EMP, designed to survive nuclear blocking, both high-altitude and atmospheric. Similarly, attempts to spend money on combat laser systems or proton beam accelerators and the like are unpromising. What is an ordinary BB ICBM or SLBM, that PCB lasers are not particularly afraid. In the atmosphere, the efficiency of lasers is generally extremely limited, and the units have powerful thermal protection, the BB ICBM also rotates, so it is not promising to “warm” it in principle. And the protection of such objects from powerful lasers was worked out in the USSR back in the 80s, during one of the first attempts to approach the projectile called "US strategic missile defense."

There is an idea of ​​defeating the filling of the PCB with a neutron beam from orbit, but here again the problems of detecting such objects from orbit and accurately determining their location, and protection from powerful neutron radiation was also practiced a long time ago, long before the first work on the PCB. Nevertheless, classic missiles even look more promising if you really know how to do them.

In general, Americans in this direction will have to cut weights for a long time in the hope of getting to gold.

Try to catch up!


But it is unlikely that the United States will succeed in catching up with Russia in hypersonic weapons in a reasonable foreseeable time. Because in Russia this is not the first generation of such systems that was created, just the first that entered service. In principle, had the USSR not collapsed, Albatros and a number of other similar developments would have long occupied their rightful place under the head fairings of the head parts of our ICBMs. While working on the topic of “Vanguard”, it was possible to adopt not the current version of the planning winged maneuvering unit (PKB) 15YU71, but the previous one, 15Y70. And we have been working on hypersonic cruise and anti-ship missiles for a long time. And the "Vanguard" business is ending for us - after it, in the work of the Anchar-RV design bureau from MIT (it is very likely that this device will use a different principle of planning flight - motor), and a certain "promising" system, which will then be installed on "Sarmatians", and certainly not one.

As for the fight against hypersonic missiles and PCBs in Russia, then, most likely, the issue of combating PCBs is also not easy for us. But according to simulators of hypersonic missiles of the Favorit-RM type, not so long ago, the S-400 and S-300B4 SAMs were successfully shot. It is difficult to say what exactly these targets were imitated, what was the nature of their movement, and everything else, but the result was positive. Here, according to the speed that these targets created on the basis of the 5V55 SAM for the S-300, the data are available: up to about 6-7M. And for the S-500, such goals were listed as full-time, according to the terms of reference. But, of course, such a goal cannot be simple for air defense-missile defense systems a priori, even if it practically does not maneuver. Too little time allotted for her defeat.
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  1. Evil Booth 30 December 2019 05: 40 New
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    wassat But what about the same lasers, stealth railguns? and in the first blow the mordor will sweep away everything and everyone! I’ve fallen asleep, but moderation will be against it, and a capsa with greasy oil will not be enough aplomb of honest Omerian media
    1. rocket757 30 December 2019 07: 03 New
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      The Yankees strategy is built on ATTACK! Somehow they did not show themselves in the matter of protection from someone and something.
      The same tactics, parity of mutual destruction with an equal or so enemy, and they don’t plan / cannot plan to protect their territory.
      Hit the weak and stay away from the strong ... that's all tactics. Yes, even more advertising and lies more, more, next to them, Dr. Goebbels resting on the sidelines.
      1. Siberia 75 30 December 2019 07: 46 New
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        The fact that Russia is creating new, advanced weapons is very frustrating for many people with “good, honest people,” both abroad and within our country. That once again speaks of Russian savagery, totalitarianism and the unwillingness to follow the IMF's advice, degrees on a hill, and personally the late Zbigniew Brzezinski.
      2. Evil Booth 30 December 2019 14: 05 New
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        soldier forgot to add most foreigners there who serve to get a passport) they didn’t give up to them.
  2. Svetlana 30 December 2019 08: 31 New
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    Quote: Evil Booth
    wassat But what about the same lasers, stealth railguns? and in the first blow the mordor will sweep away everything and everyone! I’ve fallen asleep, but moderation will be against it, and a capsa with greasy oil will not be enough aplomb of honest Omerian media

    Lasers do not have enough energy yet. They are weak so far. About twenty years later they will increase in strength; they will begin to bring down these things. Well, plasma guns will come later, or whatever science fiction writers invented there.
    1. bessmertniy 30 December 2019 10: 49 New
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      Almost 75 years after the atomic bombing of Japan, we live as if on a powder keg. But now the wick is set on fire. Who can say how much time is left before our loan day !!! negative
      1. astepanov 30 December 2019 11: 31 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Almost 75 years after the atomic bombing of Japan, we live as if on a powder keg. But now the wick is set on fire. Who can say how much time is left before our loan day !!

        Do not hysteria. There has never been such a long period in the history of Russia without major wars as after the creation of its atomic weapons. And "loan day"happens only in credit organizations.
    2. astepanov 30 December 2019 11: 11 New
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      Quote: Svetlana
      Well, plasma guns will come later

      enema implements. Read a wonderful book: "Space weapons: a security dilemma. Authors: A. G. Arbatov, A. A. Vasiliev, E. P. Velikhov Moscow, Mir, 1986". She is in the public domain. The authors are three Soviet academics you can trust. And the laws of physics have not changed since 1986. There will be no orbital combat laser stations, nor "plasma guns." At the end of the last century, SOI was led to bluff - and tore off the navel. Would not repeat ...
      1. prodi 30 December 2019 13: 01 New
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        there was an opinion that the explosion of a neutron warhead in space or in a low orbit (not necessarily close, but sufficiently directed) would quite effectively neutralize nuclear warheads flying by
        1. Operator 30 December 2019 13: 13 New
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          This is called a blocking strike - it is carried out by undermining in space many enemy warheads until the separation of warheads from the RCHIN of our ICBMs.

          Since the breeding ends at the 10th minute of the ICBM flight, and the enemy’s warheads are detected by the overhead SPRN radars 20 minutes later and the SPRN satellites 30 minutes before the ICBM launch, the blocking strike has no prospects for our country.

          In addition, it’s very expensive to maintain hundreds of warheads with neutron charges in operation - tanks with tritium in the BB must be replaced at least every three years (since tritium spontaneously decays to helium), and this is very expensive, given the cost of fresh tritium and the cost of removing the BB from ICBMs, dismantling them, and then picking and installing them on the BB.
          1. prodi 30 December 2019 13: 28 New
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            I don’t feel competent at all, but the moment of breeding the warheads does not seem critical, further, it is quite possible to compensate for the number of anti-missiles, adjusted for technical problems in their content
            1. Operator 30 December 2019 13: 37 New
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              After breeding specific RGCHIN, their BB components fly along paths previously unknown to the enemy, which makes planning about the place and time of the production of explosions blocking them fortune telling on coffee grounds.

              To understand the effectiveness of nuclear explosions in space with increased neutron emission: 2-Mtn long-range American and Soviet anti-missile warheads were able to burn light false targets with an inflatable plastic shell with an aluminized coating only at a distance of 10 km or less, and hit neutron flux proper warheads - at a distance of 2 km or less.

              The power of modern American warheads does not exceed 0,5 Mtn.
              1. prodi 30 December 2019 13: 44 New
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                after breeding, the main thing is not to lose all goals from sight, because even with half efficiency (and there is simply no sense in a larger number of false targets), the final result may turn out to be quite credible
                1. Operator 30 December 2019 14: 02 New
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                  The number of light false targets (currently represented by thin-walled cones stacked in stacks at the RGCHIN) is two orders of magnitude greater than the number of BBs, and the number of heavy false targets (represented by thick-walled cones that maintain a trajectory similarity of BBs to a height of 40 km) is one order of magnitude higher.

                  Those. to destroy 1 warhead in space, a minimum of 30 transatmospheric interceptors with kinetic warheads is required, and in the atmospheric section, 10 A-135 missiles with fragmentation warheads are required.

                  But this is only in the case of maintaining the operability of ground-based SPRN radars, which is fantastic, given the possibility of undermining the nuclear warheads of the leading Russian infantry radar systems above them with the blocking of EMP radars from high-altitude nuclear explosions.

                  After that, the entire American missile defense system will fail just at the time of the arrival of the BB of Russian ICBMs.
                  1. prodi 30 December 2019 14: 10 New
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                    and you exaggerate nothing? If the warhead contains 3-10 large-scale conical warheads, then where does all this feast come from?
                    1. Operator 30 December 2019 14: 18 New
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                      It is necessary to somehow demonstrate to the American electorate the results of (even mythical) spending of budget funds in the field of missile defense laughing

                      Even during the Soviet Union, a realistic judgment was made on both sides - there is no defense in every sense against a massive nuclear missile strike, and only the Russian Federation and the United States are still capable of such a strike.

                      In fact, the missile defense is intended only to intercept single warheads launched with a provocative purpose or unauthorized - for example, by rocket crew of an ICBM or SSGN squadron.
                      1. prodi 30 December 2019 14: 38 New
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                        in fact, vaguely remember my service in the Strategic Missile Forces. Most likely, it was a P-12. I saw the warhead only as a model that was docked to the rocket in the classroom: a cone, one and a half meters in diameter and two meters in length. Somehow I do not believe, especially in large-scale false warheads, especially in our confrontation with the USA
                      2. Operator 30 December 2019 15: 06 New
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                        The combat equipment of modern RGCHIN complete with false targets and electronic warfare equipment looks like this

                      3. prodi 30 December 2019 15: 11 New
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                        I repeat my clarification: in my opinion, in our confrontation with the USA there is no sense in sacrificing the useful volume of the warhead (except for residual, excessive) for false purposes
                      4. Operator 30 December 2019 15: 22 New
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                        Stacks of cones of false targets are located on top of the BB (see photo) in the free space between the BB, and not inside the warhead, so its volume is not affected in any way.

                        I have on my home computer illustrations of Makeev’s design bureau about the rational specific gravity of false targets and electronic warfare equipment in the total mass of thrown payload - from 25 to 50% (depending on the development of the enemy’s missile defense).
                      5. prodi 30 December 2019 15: 32 New
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                        easy false goals are possible and can find a place, for the rest it makes no sense in the event of a confrontation between superpowers, and not the USA and North Korea
                      6. Operator 30 December 2019 15: 36 New
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                        The height of the conical BB is 150 cm.

                        The TLC conical shell height is 50 cm, the uranium shell thickness is 238 - 1 cm.

                        The height of the conical shell of the LLC is 150 cm, the thickness of the shell of metallized plastic is 1 mm.
                      7. prodi 30 December 2019 15: 46 New
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                        so how many of them can stumble (false) in the middle of 10 normal warheads?
                      8. Operator 30 December 2019 15: 49 New
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                        A stack of 100 LCs worn on the BB will increase the height of the block by 10 cm; a stack of 10 TLCs will increase the block height by another 10 cm; total 20 cm gain in height BB.
                      9. prodi 30 December 2019 16: 06 New
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                        As for the easy false targets, I would cut the sturgeon by an order of magnitude; as for the heavy ones, I would reduce their number to nothing
                      10. Operator 30 December 2019 16: 14 New
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                        Quite the opposite: when applying a coating of metamaterial to the BB surface (having a negative angle of reflection of electromagnetic waves in vacuum in the range from optics to radio), the need for the FLC will disappear, but for the TLC it will remain.
                      11. prodi 30 December 2019 16: 30 New
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                        and what then is the point of replacing a real warhead with a TLC (there is almost no free space)?
                      12. Operator 30 December 2019 18: 25 New
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                        Hollow DST takes up minimal volume because it is worn like a cap on the BB. DST stacks (one on each BB) reduce the mass of thrown blocks in the composition of the RCHIN (in quantity or power) by about a quarter.

                        That is the payment for overcoming missile defense while passing the BB of the atmospheric section of the trajectory on the descent.
                      13. prodi 30 December 2019 20: 38 New
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                        well, that’s only if you consider them to be difficult, and separation from the main warhead does not seem an easy task
                      14. Operator 30 December 2019 20: 50 New
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                        TLCs are considered heavy not because they weigh as much as the BB, but because the TLCs are two orders of magnitude heavier than the FLCs.

                        Cap-shaped false targets stacked in a stack are separated (with subsequent scatter in space) using a lacquer interlayer burning from a high-frequency discharge applied to the conductive surfaces of the LC.
                      15. prodi 31 December 2019 10: 29 New
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                        "your caps" will behave almost exactly the same when entering the atmosphere, like other light imitators, although this, at least, before the explosion of a warhead on a target, is unlikely to come. There are really heavy false targets that actually imitate a warhead when entering the atmosphere, and although they are significantly lighter than warheads, they are either a missile with thermal protection, an after-launch engine, a plasma generator and an electronic warfare module to simulate the trajectory, glow and EPR of the warhead (or should have steering surfaces).
                        I came across that minuteman3 has one or two of these false targets. There are some with us. And I don’t understand this
                      16. Operator 31 December 2019 11: 12 New
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                        TLCs in the form of caps from uranium-238 fulfill their function from the moment they enter the atmosphere at an altitude of 100 km to the time lag behind the BB in speed at an altitude of 40 km. After that, the flight time of the block to the target will be about 15 seconds, which is clearly not enough for its interception by a missile defense.

                        What you are talking about is a motor false goal - i.e. equipped with a rocket engine (to compensate for aerodynamic drag) and ablative heat protection (for passing dense layers of the atmosphere below an altitude of 40 km). As far as I understand, these motor false targets are no longer used as unnecessary.

                        In the future, they steer controlled units with aerodynamic surfaces that allow the anti-aircraft maneuver to “taper off” in order to realize the available acceleration, the value of which is not less than 1/2 of the value of the available anti-missile acceleration.
                      17. prodi 31 December 2019 12: 05 New
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                        in order for such caps to enter the atmosphere along with warheads, they must be bred with them even after the speed of the warheads has been reduced, and a lot after the breeding of the main, common unit.
                        I can’t imagine how this can be done outside of it at all.
                      18. Operator 31 December 2019 14: 20 New
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                        Why breed cap-type TLCs after the BB enters the atmosphere - it is quite possible and necessary to dilute the field of separation of the BB + LC assembly from the RGCHIN right away (using the electric ignition of the separation layer of varnish).

                        The battle formation of the BB and LC in space looks like a set of identical targets located along a cylindrical generatrix with an internal diameter of about 10 km.
                      19. prodi 31 December 2019 15: 33 New
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                        how do you slow down false targets divorced from warheads immediately after entering orbit so that they also dive into the atmosphere?
                        how do you pull off your uranium caps from already diluted warheads (presumably forward along the course with acceleration) - also with the help of magic varnish?
                      20. Operator 31 December 2019 16: 13 New
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                        After dilution with the RGCHIN, the BB + TLC assembly flies along the ballistic trajectory in the direction given by the dilution stage.

                        Burning alternately separating layers of varnish give false targets an additional speed of ~ 1 m / s, eventually slowing down the war block they were wearing by ~ 0,25 m / s. BB orientation engines can scatter LC along the cylindrical generatrix and position the block anywhere in the system.

                        At the moment of entry into the atmosphere, the LC and BB fly at a distance of ~ 1 km from each other along almost the same trajectory with a time interval of ~ 1/7000 second.
                      21. prodi 31 December 2019 16: 44 New
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                        if it all unfolds according to this scenario, then when you enter, from about 20 misses into the atmosphere to the final 4 below, your uranium caps will generally evaporate, right away, without ever reaching the named 40km
                      22. Operator 31 December 2019 18: 55 New
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                        At the entrance to the rarefied atmospheric layers at an altitude of 100 km, BB and LC have a speed of 25 M; at the entrance to denser atmospheric layers at an altitude of 40 km, they are 20 M.

                        Uranium-238, from which the TLC is made, is a very energy-intensive material due to its high density of 19 g / cc. Therefore, the TLC first 60 km of descent in the atmosphere will accumulate heat and only then collapse.
                      23. prodi 31 December 2019 19: 22 New
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                        unfortunately, I remember very vaguely, but the respected Opus, it seems, called completely wild numbers: from 5 to 10 cm of burning thickness
                        (metal!) armor at the first stroke, then it will all, of course, slow down
  • 9lvariag 4 January 2020 23: 28 New
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    And if we take into account the threatened period, we will carry out a blocking strike, for example, by launching 100 KRHBD or launching 100 obsolete ICBMs? One expert on YouTube proved to me with foam at the mouth that the equilibrium ionization of the upper atmosphere and a “mirror” of excited warhead metal solsols — well, this is USE for American missile defense. They are their Seyfgard and Sprint, under such tuned and do not care for them to blind the radar and OLS, as well as the control channels of atmospheric interceptors.
    1. Operator 5 January 2020 00: 14 New
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      The Americans abandoned Seyfgard and Sprint precisely because of the presence of nuclear warheads on their missiles, which illuminated their own ground-based radars with a magnetic pulse and shielded ionized air.

      A blocking nuclear strike is possible only with an accurate calculation of the moment of the enemy’s ICBM launch at each missile base, which is very difficult in practice (even if the preemptive launch of ICBMs before the arrival of blocking missiles is not taken into account).
      1. 9lvariag 5 January 2020 00: 29 New
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        Thanks for the answer. Plusanul.
      2. 9lvariag 5 January 2020 00: 31 New
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        I had in mind the blocking of the Amer’s missile defense and SPRN, NORAD - by launching our not-so-new silt rockets and launching ahead of our own CRCHBD. Cheaper than ICBMs. In the overload, so download these US defense systems.
      3. 9lvariag 5 January 2020 00: 36 New
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        To me, this figure was an assistant professor of the science of fairy tales and poems, too, stubbornly vparivat, the same thing - such as Sprint interceptors and Seyfgard missiles are enough. And our A-135, also a slag! After all, the principle of guidance and control is the same. And at the beginning of the group of your posts, you conceptually explained the philosophy of this system.
        PS: the nickname of this grief is the assistant professor of the bum - Denis Bazhenov. Who will meet him in the comments on the video on the military theme of Western weapons, you can throw a bunch of guana at him! Or even trample in it. This khmyr - also threw links to his books kukaretika.
  • Vadim237 30 December 2019 21: 32 New
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    In the next 10 to 15 years, the United States will return SDI - in response to the emergence of Vanguard and Sarmatia in Russia.
  • Nikolaevich I 30 December 2019 08: 40 New
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    The staff of the Shtatovs were boiling in "bowlers" ... it is likely that after a while "various" concepts of interceptors of hypersonic missiles will appear ... So far, they have appeared in "splendid isolation." Glide Breaker concept ...
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      1. Nikolaevich I 30 December 2019 09: 15 New
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        Quote: Svetlana
        concepts for intercepting hypersonic weapons of a mess surely exist both here and here. And they do not exist in a single quantity. (Glide Breaker)

        And I don’t argue! I myself can offer these ... the most ... concepts (!), And not one! wink But the shtatovtsev voiced (!) While one ...! request
  • Last centurion 30 December 2019 09: 37 New
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    Hypersonic devices cannot be brought down even from a promising weapon. (the laser does not have time to heat up considering that it is necessary to shoot directly, but nobody canceled the horizon and dispersion in the atmosphere, clouds, etc.), but as they say, we first read fantastic books and then we implement them. so at a certain stage it is necessary to dig a study in the direction of force fields. how - I do not know for science fiction. but there are submarines, planes and missiles, and they were once a fantasy. so in about 100 years they can invent
    1. bessmertniy 30 December 2019 10: 53 New
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      Today, even the strongest power is not immune from destruction. And, if the world community fails to stop the arms race, then a common sad fate awaits everyone. negative
  • knn54 30 December 2019 09: 51 New
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    The United States may agree to an extension of START-3 if the Russian Federation includes hypersonic missiles in the list.
    1. evgen1221 30 December 2019 18: 24 New
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      In exchange for their Aug with Alaskan destroyers and serving this at the expense of America.
    2. 9lvariag 4 January 2020 23: 38 New
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      Or maybe along with the lackeys in the form of citizens of the Russian Federation and transferring to themselves the entire territory of our country. No, with Gorbi, we have already agreed once on the INF Treaty - there is already enough chewing gum and Coca-Cola.
  • Operator 30 December 2019 11: 05 New
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    Avangard is the winged block planning, Anchar-RV is the winged engine block, however.

    The US has a problem not in detecting planning or motor winged units, as well as Zircon hypersonic cruise missiles (due to flying in the upper atmosphere they are detected by optical reconnaissance satellites in a plasma cloud), but in their interception are all without exception American anti-aircraft missiles , missiles and interceptors intercept targets at altitudes below 40 and above 130 km. Namely, in that high-altitude corridor “Vanguards”, “Anchary-RV” and “Zircons” fly.

    A separate problem is the interception of maneuvering (winged) warheads that perform anti-aircraft maneuver after entering the atmosphere at an altitude of 100 km with the help of deflected aerodynamic surfaces. The available overload of the MBB exceeds the available overload of hypersonic missile defense, the accuracy of radio command guidance of which is also not sufficient. The only way out is the use of nuclear warheads in missile defense, but then their first explosion blocks the operation of ground-based radars and radio command lines.

    In general: "Everywhere you throw, all the wedge" (C) bully
  • cniza 30 December 2019 12: 52 New
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    If war starts tomorrow, we probably will not and cannot destroy hypersonic missiles and glider gliders.


    And he brilliantly used this promise to cut the budget.
  • rica1952 30 December 2019 13: 02 New
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    It’s not necessary to expose Americans to technically illiterate leaders. This disease is inherent in our galoshes. They have been well aware since the 60s how ballistic missiles appeared on combat alert hypersonic problems. So our Avngards (which do not affect strategic balance) are even no account at all. No missile defense system holds a massive blow. Therefore, you need to calm down not to agitate hype from hypersound.
  • shinobi 30 December 2019 20: 39 New
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    The situation is such, in fact, and has not changed since the advent of the first ballistic missiles, that there is no means to guarantee the interception of targets moving at speeds above 4,5 km / s along an unknown path, no one has. , this is a guaranteed death for everything and everyone who gets into it. The meaning of hypersonic weapons lies on a different plane, in fact, not as obvious as it seems at first glance.
    1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 21: 27 New
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      Now in the USA they are developing and testing fast neutron generators - space-based beam weapons, for the selection of false warheads, work is also underway on new modifications of the SM 3 with an increased range and altitude, new for atmospheric interceptors new SPRN satellites - PRO and new ground-based radars with the ability to select false targets and Aegis ship radars are being improved - all this is aimed at the possibility of effectively intercepting ICBM warheads and when the agreement on the non-deployment of weapons in space is covered with a copper basin, and it is covered accurately, the missile defense interceptor component will appear in orbit in the form of the same X 37 satellites equipped with missiles neutron radiation generators and kamikaze satellites for ram launching ICBMs - the US budget will pull it all over the next 10 years.
      1. shinobi 30 December 2019 22: 12 New
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        I’ve been listening to this song for 35 years. And the thing, as it was in the form of beautiful pictures and loud speeches, remains in the same condition to this day. There are objective laws of nature that cannot be circumvented no matter how much money is. Stopping the launch of ICBMs, not intercepting because it is impossible , from the continental part of Russia it is possible only with a preemptive strike. Which is also impossible, since even before the enemy missiles reach the target, our ICBMs will be in space. Launch mines beyond the Urals and Siberia were not built from nefig, they could not be obtained there in response it’s unrealistic, but rockets are sitting there in a heavy class. Moreover, at the moment, the situation with promising developments in the United States of missile weapons is much worse (not to say akhovy) than let's say in the same 80s or 90s. They could not even realize that reserve and the advance that they had at the time of the zero years. The country buying rocket engines from the “backward country of the gas station”? Do not tell. You should not relax, of course, but listen to nonsense and show-off clumsy Yankees too.
        1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 22: 19 New
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          Unfortunately, this is not a picture, but real iron - take an interest in your leisure time. They buy only RD 180 for one missile - they have quite a few missiles flying on their engines, including private ones. Recently they tested a new BRSD - this is by the way about the degradation of the US missile industry.
          1. shinobi 30 December 2019 22: 25 New
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            They always had enough iron. This is only in most cases piece-wise and far from the declared characteristics. The Americans once again try to suck in the inhabitant of the SDI, only with a different sauce and name.
            1. Vadim237 31 December 2019 13: 41 New
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              Given their technological development in electronics, materials, and much more, the new SDIs will be fully implemented, and the projects of the previous 80s program provided for the creation of half of the components only by 2025, then they spent $ 24 billion on it - but the SDI programs have not been curtailed, to this day they are working over its components have already been created: Aegis, THAAD, GBI interceptor missiles, SM 3 new satellites with IR cameras, SPRN satellites and much more.
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                1. Again I’ll ask: why did your BIUS Aegis fail to intercept ANY Korean BRDS and RS PTRK using GBI (?) THAAD, Standart SM-3 & SM-6? Is it so bad with the final readiness of the position areas in this region? Or with combat readiness at the bases of the destroyers and cruisers of the URO? Or is it a fear that our reconnaissance assets, RTR, NIP, radar - instantly copy their characteristics of all components of these systems in Japan ?! According to Mr. Optimist USA?
                2. Yes, yes, yes, we remember $ 50 yards to fight aliens from Lyndon Johnson, 30 yards to the start of Antares in Nevada. The moon "Apollo" - remember? And another 60 yards of $ - for cartoons and A4 papers under George W. Bush - to resume flights to the moon on liquefied methane? laughing smile
                3. Satellites with IR cameras - what is this? If the same thing as the IR GOS on the hypersonic DF-2F and the video noctovizer IR and the RTP antenna, in the hypersonic Louckhid SR-71A b GTD-21D - we pass by with comments. negative am sad
                4. And SPRN satellites - is it such a balalaika the size of an ISS station like? And the energy of the minimum RPKSN reactor and the reactor itself on the enriched plutonium? What happened to the fall of the Soviet satellite AS-U on the border of Canada? bully
          2. Good_Anonymous 31 December 2019 14: 40 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            Unfortunately, this is not a picture, but real iron - take an interest in your leisure time.


            You should at least give the names.
            1. shinobi 1 January 2020 06: 23 New
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              hi Don’t pay attention to the comrade, another admirer of everything American. The bad thing is that he does not even try to delve into the material and technical component of the victorious reports of the Americans. Here they have money, now they have this and that. 4-5% of the declared, withstand even less, he doesn’t consider it. It’s not obvious in patsanska. So that 80% of the huge military budget goes just to maintain foreign bases, most of which are just warehouses of old and useless equipment, it’s not account. Corruption is such (oh, excuse me, lobbying) that our officials-generals against their background are just bunny boys who stole a couple of sweets.
              1. 9lvariag 5 January 2020 00: 23 New
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                There is such a thing.
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                About this I wrote a comment to him in the amount of more than 250 yards of dolly, plundered, and the USSR was ruined for a 30 times smaller amount by the traitors from Gorbi and Yeltsin, Kravchuk.
                1. shinobi 6 January 2020 08: 31 New
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                  In sum, like Indians, for beads and empty promises. Yes they do. They can do it. When my son announced that he wanted to become an American, he almost broke his laptop on his head. It's time to return the state dialogue and propaganda.
  • Good_Anonymous 31 December 2019 14: 38 New
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    Interestingly, the author for Topcor does not write in his spare time? The style is similar.
  • Slon379 31 December 2019 15: 40 New
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    This is all good and joyful, guaranteed to receive in return. But it seems to me that it will not come to open aggression, they are perfectly destroying us from within by economic methods. We should tie the vanguards, etc. to economic security, because a country can disappear not only in a nuclear mushroom.
  • Pavel57 31 December 2019 21: 57 New
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    Better a bad cut than a good war.
  • Operator 1 January 2020 02: 35 New
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    Quote: prodi
    respected Opus

    No Dear - it’s not metal that burns, but an ablative coating (phenol-formaldehyde resin + asbestos).
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      So it seems like a mesh with metals and plus that resin, and the top is completely made of PTFE.
      1. Operator 5 January 2020 00: 34 New
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        It also happens with metal mesh fittings, and fluoroplastic is just a cosmetic coating of the ablation layer.
  • Klingon 6 January 2020 05: 37 New
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    Quote: Svetlana
    Quote: Evil Booth
    wassat But what about the same lasers, stealth railguns? and in the first blow the mordor will sweep away everything and everyone! I’ve fallen asleep, but moderation will be against it, and a capsa with greasy oil will not be enough aplomb of honest Omerian media

    Lasers do not have enough energy yet. They are weak so far. About twenty years later they will increase in strength; they will begin to bring down these things. Well, plasma guns will come later, or whatever science fiction writers invented there.

    Lasers, well, will become more powerful. Point at such a fast target as you will? taking into account the fact that the plasma formed around a hypersonic apparatus does not reflect radio waves well due to their absorption? And to bring down such pieces. a plasma bunch, firstly again, you need a laser to create an ionized channel plus a strong magnetic field generator of complex configuration to hold high-temperature plasma. That is, Tokamak needs pumped up with deuterium or tritium for the formation of the same plasma and also a magnetic tap and a trap chamber for the formation of a clot. Well, a cool guidance system. It turns out a little expensive. It will take very fucking energy just one shot)) is shorter for yourself. Well, wait better than 200 years before the invention of Phasers, Disruptors and telaron radiation
    1. pylon101 10 January 2020 03: 03 New
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      Talaronic. As a Startrek fan, let me fix it.
      You, as Clinton, should know this. Qapla!
      1. Klingon 10 January 2020 09: 49 New
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        Qapla! revenge is a cold dish! drinks