Borisov: Work on the development of the Russian military satellite constellation has been disrupted

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who oversees the defense and space sectors, said that the renewal of the military space group in 2019 was disrupted. He told about this in an interview with the Russia 24 channel.

Maybe I will give out a certain kind of secret. In December, at the Sochi meetings, where we seriously discussed the state of the space group in the interests of the Ministry of Defense, there was a very tough, serious conversation

- Borisov said, adding that by January 20, the reasons for the failure of work to upgrade the Russian military satellite constellation will be reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The Deputy Prime Minister said that in December at a meeting in Sochi the state of the space group of the Ministry of Defense was discussed and an order was given to create a special commission to determine the cause of the disruptions.

At the Sochi meetings, where we seriously discussed the state of the space group in the interests of the Ministry of Defense (...) were given instructions to create a commission, it is already working, and no later than January 20 will report to the president about the reasons that accompanied the disruption of these works

- He said.

Borisov also criticized the Russian rocket and space industry as a whole and called it the only achievement in 2019 for accident-free space launches.

Of course, during the current year there were many criticisms towards the leadership and the industry as a whole. It is no secret that the industry is in a difficult situation. For example, among the successes of the industry, there is only one thing: this year there was not a single emergency

- he stressed.

Comments

[Antidote]

Will organizational conclusions follow and D. Batutovich R. will be removed with the entry?

[Genry]

And the church of the 12th century - is he too?
Satellites themselves are a little different ...

[Kronos]

Yes, he is the leader and answer him

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Kronos

Yes, he is the leader and answer him

Where is the comma here and what is the punctuation mark at the end of the sentence?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Antidote

Will organizational conclusions follow and D. Batutovich R. will be removed with the entry?

In recent years, Borisov’s duty to constantly report on deadlines and a shift to the right ... a good position ....

[Svarog]

Quote: Aerodrome

Will organizational conclusions follow and D. Batutovich R. will be removed with the entry?

In recent years, Borisov’s duty to constantly report on deadlines and a shift to the right ... a good position ....

I must add that such good positions for all members of the government .. to report on the disruption of something, for them how to go to the store .. where do not spit the situation is the same .. why? Yes, everything is simple, after the disruption of the May decrees, organizational conclusions were not made .. Moreover, the president throughout the country announced that he was pleased with the work of the government .. this is an elementary and most serious managerial mistake, after which, usually subordinates put the device on the case and on the head ..

[vladimirvn]

A dubious achievement if you sit on the priest level and do nothing.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Svarog

this is an elementary and most serious managerial mistake, after which, usually subordinates put the device both on business and on the leader ..

It is much more pleasant for the President to talk about Lenin's "mines" and the like. serious administrative mistakes of the Bolsheviks.

[ccsr]

Quote: IvanIvanov

It is much more pleasant for the President to talk about Lenin's "mines" and the like. serious administrative mistakes of the Bolsheviks.

I honestly did not expect such stupidity from him - Lenin is still a genius in the theory and practice of building a new state. And Putin is just a manager, and even as it turns out, he’s not so outstanding when compared with the same Stalin. He even could not solve a number of cardinal problems in the country, although he already has the full power for many years.

[ver_]

... Lenin - it was just * driving * Ulyanov = Blanca ..

[Mityay65]

Quote: Aerodrome

good position ....

Watching Rogozin.

[Ross xnumx]

It is no secret that the industry is in a difficult situation.

I do not know of any industry in Russia, the simplicity of which struck with genius the whole world ...

Annoy Roskosmos us
Suddenly he began for some reason.
Jump into space now
It seems not from a trampoline.
The President gives us
A lot of theft
What do not go in comparison
With sabotage even ...

It's only the beginning,
It's only the beginning,
Whether it still will be, oh-oh-oh-oh!

Once again, disaster struck us -
Awkwardly declare:
Deadline Not Updated
"CA CEN" grouping.
Hastily looking for all the reasons
Disruption of this task.
And some mister
Rides on a trampoline.

It's only the beginning,
It's only the beginning,
Whether it still will be, oh-oh-oh-oh!

Load us with noodles
Steel for some reason.
HSE institution status
Above the institute.
And such graduates
Every year more.
To the questions: "How are you?"
We say: “Like in Poland ...” *

It's only the beginning,
It's only the beginning,
Whether it still will be, oh-oh-oh-oh!

* An old saying popular in Soviet times. "How are you?" “Things are like in Poland. Who has the cart - that’s pan ”

[cat Rusich]

"How are you ?" - "As in Poland - the one who has it LONGER ... (genital organ)"

[cat Rusich]

A rhyme saying. Who doesn't like it? Heard by me from senior colleagues at work - it means reliable.

[mikh-korsakov]

Airfield! Over time, due to impunity and the presidential reluctance to purge, our officials will become impudent. Earlier, I remember, when the plans were disrupted, they blushed, stammered, invented some reasons why the given could not be done in any way. Now they just say, "Yes, they ripped it off," like get out of it, do not distract from the exciting lesson of cutting the budget.

[9PA]

The cell is crying over them.

[30143]

And, probably, he gets a good salary. Here is attached.

[slipped]

Quote: Bar2

the news has arrived. So the hangar is on, we are building a spaceport under the hangar, Proton is to be left, then Proton is flying, and the hangar is sucks.

You are having problems with causation. The Proton-M launch vehicle, according to Kazakhstan's wishes, will cease to be launched in 2025, but for now several missiles are still in production or are being prepared for launches, for example, at the beginning of next year, the Proton-M cluster launch of new Russian communication satellites.

A5 from Plesetsk will replace the Proton-M from Baikonur next year. The second stage of the Vostochny cosmodrome is being built ahead of schedule for the launch of A5, A5P, A5M missiles. The launches of these missiles will begin there from 2023.

Quote: Bar2

They promised to put hk33 on the Union, didn’t put either hk33 or rd170, what are they pulling?

NK-33 has long been on the Soyuz -2.1v. RD-170 is an engine for parablocks of the Energia launch vehicle.

Quote: Bar2

Right now it’s necessary, there is no direct urine to make the Yenisei, although there is Energy.

No.

Quote: Bar2

When will it all end?

Do not wait

[Stena]

Quote: Bar2

about the hangar-forward, we are building a spaceport under the hangar, Proton-leave, then Proton flies, and the hangar-sucks. They promised to put hk33 on the Union, didn’t put either hk33 or rd170, what are they pulling? Right now it’s necessary, there is no direct urine to make the Yenisei, although there is Energy.
This is Putin’s capitalism, but in terms of the number of yachts per billionaire’s soul,

Quote: slipped

You have a causal relationship.

He has problems with a conscience. Or rather, with its absence.
And there is no conscience and shame - there is no man - just an animal.
Thanks to Slipped for your clear and informed look at space related issues. It is always a pleasure to read you.

[Bar2]

let's sort through the points.

The situation does not suit everyone - neither with the construction of the first stage, nor with the construction of the second. Work on the first is actually frustrated,

this was said in the messenger of this year, Yuri Borisov
https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/characters/2019/09/01/810179-vitse-premer-situatsiya-kosmodrome-vostochnii-nas-ne-ustraivaet

A5 from Plesetsk will replace the Proton-M from Baikonur next year. The second stage of the Vostochny cosmodrome is being built ahead of schedule for the launch of A5, A5P, A5M missiles. The launches of these missiles will begin there from 2023.

but what Borisov said

Due to the disruptions of Roskosmos along the Angara, a lot of time was lost. The fact is that the rocket does not meet the requirements that the main customer places on it. But the fact that the Ministry of Defense has chosen Angara as the main carrier for the formation of the satellite constellation, no one questions.

so, why make a futile rocket, build a spaceport, if it does not meet the requirements?

Quote: slipped

NK-33 has long been on the Soyuz -2.1v. RD-170 is an engine for parablocks of the Energia launch vehicle.

Well, the keyword has long been since 13 years and ALL more launches were not.

Quote: slipped

No.

This is your documentation on Apollo and F1 disappearing in America, it does not disappear here.

So, Proton is accused of high accident rate, but Proton’s last fall is when a locksmith who receives a salary at the factory, as a cleaning lady, didn’t put the sensor correctly, but this is a problem of the state, which is trying to pay a normal salary to a qualified assembler, and not Proton rockets.
The hangar DOES NOT MEET the requirements and it’s not even clear why, they don’t decrypt.
Soyuz21v-flew a long time ago, but it is not allowed to go.
So the uncle in Roskosmos, as in all of Russia, is a BARDAK.

[u-345]

How will the article come out that not everything is okay in our cosmonautics, that the competitors have long gone ahead, some local experts will come out right there, who sort of solved the problems with the Korolev joint venture itself, and begin to explain to us with clever scientific phrases that everything is We are good with the astronautics, and we are all here not far, we just don’t understand anything.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Bar2

... when a locksmith who gets paid at the factory, like a cleaning lady, didn’t put the sensor correctly,

Someone started nonsense about an incorrectly installed sensor and "went to write the province."
It is impossible to put the sensor incorrectly at all will. It will either not fit into the mounting slot, or the mounting points of the sensor will not match. In the same way as the "male" and "mother" of the SHR connector cannot be connected incorrectly.

[ccsr]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Someone started nonsense about an incorrectly installed sensor and "went to write the province."

It was easier to explain the failure this way, because many people encounter errors during assembly even in everyday life. But how to explain to the people that materials science as a science generally sucks, and that the quality of the input control of the components is below the plinth, as well as the output control of the finished product, and how to fix it all in the current situation, our humanitarians from the government certainly do not know ... Otherwise, Rogozin would not have been allowed close to Roscosmos - well, world-renowned academics and laureates of awards would never be taken seriously as the leader of anyone not from their midst, and even more so people like Rogozin - they knew this well in Soviet times, that's why they were outstanding achievements in space programs. In a word, all our current failures stem from the utter incompetence of the country's top leadership in recruiting personnel for our leading industries, and in the space industry in the first place. Even Solomonov didn’t pull the development of a new rocket at one time, so he had to change it, because managing the research institute is one thing, and not everyone succeeds in becoming the head of the practice. Unfortunately, not everyone understands this, so upstarts like Rogozin or "effective managers" appear, destroying the industry.

[Astronaut]

that materials science as a science in general we suck

Do not confuse you with fried eggs. What does materials science and "effective managers" have to do with it? Are you even familiar with this discipline?

[ccsr]

Quote: Astronaut

And here materials science and "effective managers"

Material science is the main science in creating the latest models of weapons and military equipment, and especially in the development of LSI and microchips, as well as in the creation of aerospace technology, the same composite materials when creating an airplane glider.
As for "effective managers", these are accusatory definitions of people who vaguely understand what they are in charge of - it is strange that you think that they do not affect the overall technical progress in our country.

Quote: Astronaut

You do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs.

When you systematically learn to think, then you will understand what I wrote about, since you think that I have confused something.

[karabass]

Your untruth, you can hammer a sledgehammer

[MrFox]

You probably haven’t seen how the head of the department screwed the РМТ connector into the father in the emergency with a bunch of sparks or how the board is driven into a strange place breaking code dies, and look at least at the insides of the blocks that come after the repair. Clawing the sensor past the guides and past the fasteners is elementary

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: MrFox

You probably haven’t seen how the head of the department screwed the РМТ connector into the father in the emergency with a bunch of sparks or how the board is driven into a strange place breaking code dies, and look at least at the insides of the blocks that come after the repair. Clawing the sensor past the guides and past the fasteners is elementary

Report from the "cable car dacha"? But what does space have to do with it?
Especially touched - "screw the connector" (?? !!)

[MrFox]

Do you have a military-political education or didn’t you work with military equipment in the USSR? For information, the connectors of the РМТ series are threaded. Say hello to everyone in your country house

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: MrFox

equipment in the USSR? For information, the connectors of the РМТ series are threaded. Say hello to everyone in your country house

[MrFox]

Leave the keyboard alone, your hands are shaking

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: MrFox

Leave the keyboard alone, your hands are shaking

What happened to you? Hands trembling with a hangover, ali scared who?

[ccsr]

Quote: MrFox

You probably haven’t seen the head of the department screw the PMT connector into the father in the emergency with a bunch of sparks, or how the board is driven into a strange place, breaking the code comb,

Did you see it at the MIC "NPO Mashinostroyenia" in Reutov? I doubt that this is possible - there is still a different culture of work, and I know this since Soviet times. I do not think they have degraded so much ....

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: ccsr

Did you see it at the MIC "NPO Mashinostroyenia" in Reutov? I doubt that this is possible - there is still a different culture of work, and I know this since Soviet times. I do not think they have degraded so much ....

Here I am about the same. The electrician could not (usually the sensors are their diocese) hammer the sensor, but without the hammer it is impossible to put it wrong. Not only that, when tested before starting, and without it in any way, there would immediately have been a malfunction in the circuit where this sensor is located.

[ccsr]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Here I am about the same. An electrician (usually sensors is their diocese) could not hammer a sensor,

The techies understood it all, and the humanities grab it as the truth, which is why those who presented this information counted on them. It was recalled that the chief of the General Staff, Kvashnin blurted out that our orbital group would replace Lourdes - the professionals immediately realized what nonsense he froze to please the Supreme, and everyone else took it at face value.

[Gray-haired]

Did you describe your antics now? Have you held RMT in your hands at least once? It is only in your empty head that two “dads” of the same diameter can “enter” each other, zvizdobol! Although rear-wheel drive, it may enter.

[slipped]

Quote: Bar2

let's sort through the points.

No problem.

Quote: Bar2

The situation does not suit everyone - neither with the construction of the first stage, nor with the construction of the second. Work on the first is actually disrupted, this was said in the messenger of this year, Yuri Borisov

And the military "Spetsstroy" with subcontractors broke the deadlines for the first stage - the organization had long been disbanded, and the leaders sat down. The first stage will be completed by another organization. This does not in the least interfere with regular launches - in 2020, five launches of Soyuz-2 carrier rockets are planned, the rockets have already been delivered to the cosmodrome:

As for the second stage, there the construction is ahead of schedule - on December 25, 2019, experts at TsENKI and contracting organizations completed the installation of large-sized tanks for storing oxygen and nitrogen.

They took and unloaded at a special storage site on the territory of the Industrial Construction and Operational Base of the Vostochny Cosmodrome the fourth, fifth and sixth floors of a cable-filling tower.

Next year, the number of builders involved in the facility is increasing.

Quote: Bar2

Due to the disruptions of Roskosmos along the Angara, a lot of time was lost. The fact is that the rocket does not meet the requirements that the main customer places on it. But the fact that the Ministry of Defense has chosen Angara as the main carrier for the formation of the satellite constellation, no one questions.

The main customer of the Angara missile complex is the Ministry of Defense. What has he lost there, if until recently they flew their payload on the Proton-M launch vehicle and the Rokot launch vehicle? As for the A5 launch vehicle, it is from Plesetsk, with the Briz-M RB, which corresponds to the Proton-K rocket previously operated by the military with the DM RB from Baikonur, only much more environmentally friendly. In addition, a new upper stage 14С48 has already been made for it, which will catch up with its characteristics to those required by the MO.

Quote: Bar2

so, why make a futile rocket, build a spaceport, if it does not meet the requirements?

It does not catch up with Proton-M from Plesetsk, but it will perfectly overtake it from Vostochny, even in its basic configuration Option A5P goes under a manned program for deep space. And options A5M and A5B are commercial.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

NK-33 has long been on the Soyuz -2.1v.

Well, the keyword has long been since 13 years and ALL more launches were not.

Yeah. They fly for a long time and regularly - this year there were two launches of this carrier from Plesetsk.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

No.

This is your documentation on Apollo and F1 disappearing in America, it does not disappear here.

What are you talking about? There are no enterprises that made components for the Energia launch vehicle for a long time. The technologies that were developed using it will be used in the Soyuz-5 rocket and the Yenisei STK.

Quote: Bar2

So Proton is accused of high accident rate, but the last fall of Proton ... "

It happened in 2015. Four and a half years ago. After that, there were 19 successive launches of this rocket.

Quote: Bar2

The hangar DOES NOT MEET the requirements and it’s not even clear why, they don’t decrypt.
Soyuz21v-flew a long time ago, but it is not allowed to go.

Decrypted above. About Soyuz-2.1v you can’t do it with your foot.

Here so

[Bar2]

Quote: slipped

This does not in the least interfere with regular launches - in 2020, five launches of Soyuz-2 carrier rockets are planned, the rockets have already been delivered to the cosmodrome:

this prevents the hangar from flying, which Borisov spoke of. As for the Unions, this is the old Soviet Korolyovsaya P7.

Quote: slipped

does not catch up with Proton-M from Plesetsk, but it will perfectly overtake it from Vostochny,

From the cape, the canave of the hangar will fly even faster, but it does not depend on the rocket.

Quote: slipped

What are you talking about? There are no enterprises that made components for the Energia launch vehicle for a long time.

you don’t have to lie, Energy Corporation is located in Korolyov and all the documentation is there too.

Quote: slipped

Yeah. They fly for a long time and regularly - this year there were two launches of this carrier from Plesetsk

NK33 engines in this Russia DO NOT PRODUCE, the company is ruined, now it is difficult to return the NK32. And what they put on Unions 21v is old stocks from the Soviet Union, uncle.
All that flies is the backlog of the USSR and at the same time they want to ruin the Proton as well, they are completely crazy there.
You made an attempt to oppose, but it didn’t work, the lies didn’t work, but somehow to justify capitalist Russia Putin is a hopeless attempt, this Russia does nothing new and will never do it, the wrong people are managing.

[slipped]

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

This does not in the least interfere with regular launches - in 2020, five launches of Soyuz-2 carrier rockets are planned, the rockets have already been delivered to the cosmodrome:

this prevents the hangar from flying, which Borisov spoke of. As for the Unions, this is the old Soviet Korolyovsaya P7.

What do you mean! You and "Vostochny" are not in the tooth with your foot. Eh. The Soyuz-2 rocket and the Angara series missiles have different launches. For the first one has already been built and is being operated, for the second one is just being built. How can the launches of the Soyuz-2 rocket interfere with the Angara? They are generally different even in the class of rockets. What are you talking about?

In addition, Soyuz-2 is not the old Soviet P7. The old Soviet R7 is the Soyuz-U rocket, an analog unified rocket, the launches of which have already been stopped. "Soyuz-2" is a series of missiles based on the previously proven R7 layout, but with a digital control system, with a new engine and a fairing in the third stage.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

does not catch up with Proton-M from Plesetsk, but it will perfectly overtake it from Vostochny,

From the cape, the canave of the hangar will fly even faster, but it does not depend on the rocket.

You don’t fumble in rockets either. Sadness. There is not about speed, but about the volume of PN.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

What are you talking about? There are no enterprises that made components for the Energia launch vehicle for a long time.

you don’t have to lie, Energy Corporation is located in Korolyov and all the documentation is there too.

Oh my God.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

Yeah. They fly for a long time and regularly - this year there were two launches of this carrier from Plesetsk

NK33 engines in this Russia DO NOT PRODUCE, the company is ruined, now it is difficult to return the NK32. And what they put on Unions 21v is old stocks from the Soviet Union, uncle.

How does this deny the regular launches of Soyuz-2.1v? By the way, after the exhaustion of all the NK-33 reserves, the RD-2.1, which has already flown off the Antares qualification, will be put on the Soyuz-181v, oh sorry - RD-193

Quote: Bar2

All that flies is the backlog of the USSR and at the same time they want to ruin the Proton as well, they are completely crazy there.

Oh, we’ve lost everything, the station is leaving.

Quote: Bar2

You made an attempt to oppose, but it didn’t work

Are you talking about your trash about "Soyuz-2.1v" shchaz?

[Bar2]

Quote: slipped

What are you talking about?

ask Borisov what he’s talking about.

Quote: slipped

Soyuz-2 "is a series of missiles based on the previously proven R7 layout, but with a digital control system, with a new engine and a fairing in the third stage.

lying again. Besides Soyuz21v with NK33 (I didn’t know about it), all other Unions go with the old RD107 / 108. So the digital and analogue control systems don’t do it anymore, and our planes are falling down Su 57 because of the control systems failure there’s only one answer, there’s American electronics. So if ours refuse to carry pin_dos to the ISS, then the Unions will also begin to fall.
Everything else is also from P7, only modernized.

Quote: slipped

You don’t fumble in rockets either. Sadness. There is not about speed, but about the volume of PN.

want to say that a rocket launched from a point closer to the equator does not use the speed of rotation of the earth? And this countergenesis is still arguing about something.

Quote: slipped

Oh my God.

and ask him.

Quote: slipped

How does this deny the regular launches of Soyuz-2.1v? By the way, after the exhaustion of all the NK-33 reserves, the RD-2.1, which has already flown off the Antares qualification, will be put on the Soyuz-181v, oh sorry - RD-193

this suggests that the Soviet Unions and Soviet engines alone provide the space program for this Putin Russia, and nothing is done in this Putin Russia itself.

[ccsr]

Quote: Bar2

and the fact that our planes are falling Su 57 due to a failure of control systems, so here is the only answer, there is American electronics.

It is not true, this cannot be, if only because in the production of B and VT there are strict restrictions on the use of foreign components.

Quote: Bar2

but in this Putin's Russia, NOTHING is being done.

This is also a propaganda slogan, if only because the military-industrial complex has been revived in the country and the creation of the latest weapons that overtake foreign analogues is a testament to this.

[Bar2]

Quote: ccsr

This is also a propaganda slogan, if only because the military-industrial complex has been revived in the country and the creation of the latest weapons that overtake foreign analogues is a testament to this.

give an example of what has been done in Putin's Russia?

[ccsr]

Quote: Bar2

give an example of what has been done in Putin's Russia?

The first Avangard complex was put on alert, the Crimean bridge was built - this is for a start.
You will find information about the other successes of present-day Russia online if they are of real interest to you, and believe me, they are not so few.

[Bar2]

Quote: ccsr

The first complex "Avangard" was put on alert,

the fact that the bomb was attached to aerodynamic surfaces and put on thermal protection, is this not a discovery in ceramics, have you heard about Buran? He, too, descended on wings from space to earth.

[ccsr]

Quote: Bar2

heard of Buran? He, too, descended on wings from space to earth.

With hypersonic speed?

[Bar2]

Quote: ccsr

With hypersonic speed?

why don’t you know anything. ALL spacecraft descend from orbit or from near space at the same speed with the first space 8km / s and your avant-garde is no exception.

[bk316]

with the first space 8km / s and

At what height does Buran have such a speed?
What is it controlled at such height and speed?
Or, again, balabolite?

[ccsr]

Quote: bk316

Or, again, balabolite?

This is a victim of the exam, and it reveals to us the "truth" ....

[ccsr]

Quote: Bar2

ALL spacecraft descend from orbit or from near space at the same speed with the first spacecraft at 8 km / s

In fact, you are illiterate, all the descent spacecraft have different speeds throughout the entire portion of the trajectory - from the first space one they only enter from orbit, and then its decline begins due to braking. And landing on the ground in capsules takes place by parachute in the last section - is there also hypersonic speed?

Quote: Bar2

and your vanguard is no exception.

The only exception is that the Vanguard will descend at a completely different speed, otherwise the warhead will be easy prey for missile defense systems.

[Bar2]

Quote: ccsr

In fact, you are illiterate, all the descent spacecraft have different speeds throughout the entire portion of the trajectory - they only enter from the orbit from the first spacecraft, and then its decline begins due to braking

when the thief himself, then we must shout the loudest, hold the thief.
Any spacecraft descends from orbit almost always the same. First, braking and falling from the first space velocity to a lower, not much less, but enough that the force of gravity hooks the device and it clings to the upper atmosphere and starts to FALL. This happens with EVERYTHING apparatuses from ballistic-uncontrollable to controlled with wings. During this time, the spacecraft accelerates to great speed according to yours (you only understand this, hypersonic). And only at an altitude of 20 km Buran’s wings are triggered. Since the Vanguard is a winged projectile without an engine, it will simply plan for the target at high speed from top to bottom. And it's all about the thermal protection of the device. Is it clear to you?

[ccsr]

Quote: Bar2

. During this time, the spacecraft accelerates to great speed according to yours (you only understand this, hypersonic).

And "Buran", about which you squealed here, also accelerated to a tremendous speed before landing, or was it already starting to slow down after dropping to 100 km?

Quote: Bar2

And only at an altitude of 20 km Buran wings are triggered.

Have you heard anything about the vertical gradient of air pressure, or you have made all the calculations for a uniform atmosphere, since you don’t understand why braking starts already at 100 km, but it is not as effective as at an altitude of 20 km.

Quote: Bar2

Since the Vanguard is a winged shell without an engine, it will simply plan toward the target at high speed from top to bottom.

Since you are talking nonsense about space deceleration of orbiters, I doubt that you had anything to do with the design of the "Vanguard", and therefore I do not consider it necessary to believe in all your "theories". Regarding "planning", I would like to note that this trajectory is easy to calculate for missile defense systems, but maneuvering in a descending segment will put an end to their ability to hit the warhead.

Quote: Bar2

And it's all about the thermal protection of the device. Is it clear to you?

Take comfort professor sour cabbage soup - you're too far from this area to tell me how to perceive the fantasies of the next amateur

[Bar2]

Quote: ccsr

Have you heard anything about the vertical air pressure gradient, or you have

you are talking nonsense, like all under-propaganda agitators, it’s disgusting to talk to you.

[slipped]

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

What are you talking about?

ask Borisov what he’s talking about.

And I do not need to ask, I already see what it is about.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

Soyuz-2 "is a series of missiles based on the previously proven R7 layout, but with a digital control system, with a new engine and a fairing in the third stage.

lying again. Besides Soyuz21v with NK33 (did not know about it) all other Unions go with old RD107 / 108.

What? Firstly, RD-107 and RD-108 were significantly boosted due to new nozzle heads, i.e. the classic Soviet design of engines was changed, secondly, the full version of Soyuz-2.1b in the third stage and the light Soyuz-2.1v in the second stage has the best in the world in specific impulse, created already in Russia, an oxygen-kerosene engine 14D23, that is, RD-0124.

Quote: Bar2

The fact that digital control systems do not already do analog ones,

Clear. You are in the lamer control systems. You just do not know what SU missiles are.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

You don’t fumble in rockets either. Sadness. There is not about speed, but about the volume of PN.

want to say that a rocket launched from a point closer to the equator does not use the speed of rotation of the earth? And this countergenesis is still arguing about something.

No. This is exactly what I want to tell you that the A5 (RB Briz-M) from Plesetsk outputs less PN to LEO than the same A5 will output from Vostochny - 22,3 tons, against ~ 24 tons. If the A5 is launched from the latitude of Florida, then ~ 26 tons can be withdrawn. Let me remind you that the A5 rocket is an ecological replacement for the heptyl Proton. In its future modified versions, it will be able to launch from 28 to 37 tons into low-earth orbit. And this is a heavier tug and a larger payload. That is why the Ministry of Defense wants to use this missile, as Borisov said.

Quote: Bar2

Quote: slipped

How does this deny the regular launches of Soyuz-2.1v? By the way, after the exhaustion of all the NK-33 reserves, the RD-2.1, which has already flown off the Antares qualification, will be put on the Soyuz-181v, oh sorry - RD-193

this suggests that the Soviet Unions and Soviet engines alone provide the space program for this Putin Russia, and nothing is done in this Putin Russia itself.

Are you working on a training manual? Well, I'll disappoint you:

1. RD-0124 for Soyuz-2 and its latest modifications for Angara and Soyuz-5 missiles - RD-0124A and RD-0124MS.

2. RD-0162D2 - a 40-ton LNG engine as a prototype of promising 80-ton engines RD-169A and RD-169V.

3. RD-0146 - an oxygen-hydrogen engine, for promising stages and booster blocks for A5V and STK.

4. The prototype of the detonation engine with an annular combustion chamber. And these are generally the most advanced, truly unparalleled technologies in the world today.

And I'm not talking about a new modification of the "Soviet RD-170" - the RD-171MV engine and its derivatives - the newest RD-180MV and RD-191M.

[Bar2]

Quote: slipped

What? First, RD-107 and RD-108 are significantly boosted by new nozzle heads, i.e. The classic Soviet engine design was changed

traction gain between RD107 and RD107a -2.5 tons i.e. nothing

Quote: slipped

already created in Russia, the 14D23 oxygen-kerosene engine, that is, RD-0124.

no, this engine was developed in the USSR and the fact that the engine for 30 years could not have been made not an achievement, but the shame of Putin's Russia.

as for the detonation engine, this engine will NEVER be made, because the international corporations that the Russian government is currently working on are not interested in it. Or they will first do it in America, and then in Russia.

For 30 years of neocapitalism in Russia, therefore, the regime has nothing to boast of, vast territories have been lost, 10 thousand plants have collapsed, and we fly into space thanks to Korolev.

[bk316]

Su 57 because of the failure of control systems, so there is one answer, there is American electronics.

Nu nu, specifically, without the mysterious word "electronics".
WHAT DOES THERE SPECIFICALLY THE AMERICAN WHICH HAS CAUSED TO FALL?
Or just balabolite?

[Most kind]

TsENKI cannot build ahead of schedule, because it does not have the experience, heavy equipment for such construction, plus SK continues to identify thefts, so I think that unlike the special building they will not have time, it’s not for them to build a special building and take time with acceptance, here’s

[slipped]

Quote: Most Kind

TsENKI cannot build ahead of schedule,

There PSO "Kazan" as a contractor. Heavy equipment in the photo?

Quote: Most Kind

plus SC continues to identify theft,

all materials relate to the special construction period.

[ultra]

Quote: slipped

Do not wait

And you don’t even have to wait anymore. The space program has essentially already died. There are only dying convulsions left. We have not had science for a long time, except for individual bursts, the manned will die with the ISS.

[slipped]

Quote: ultra

Quote: slipped

Do not wait

And you don’t even have to wait anymore. The space program has essentially already died. There are only dying convulsions left.

We have over 25 launches next year.

Quote: ultra

We haven’t had any scientific for a long time, with the exception of individual bursts,

An interesting scientific program on the ISS, space weather monitoring, an extensive astrophysical program for Spectra, sounding of Mars from orbit, and a year later from the surface. Lunar program. In the future, work on Mercury (from the BepiColombo apparatus - our devices are on it) and Venus.

Quote: ultra

manned will die with the ISS.

The ISS will fly until 2028. At least RS ISS for sure.

[Nick]

Quote: slipped

Quote: Bar2
When will it all end?


Do not wait

[tracer]

Why are you talking about yachts then? Did you count them yourself? I've counted "there" to compare, I suppose, how many of those and these.
What abilities ... Not at a rally. If only to blurt out the hype and louder. Let me remind you my friend that in all cultures and civilizations of our planet. Is always !!!! People in power lived much richer than ordinary people. This is how the world works, so there is nothing to "shine" with discoveries. I do not at all excuse the embezzlers.

[mikh-korsakov]

Snowstorm! Well, it was not always the case that people "endowed with power lived much richer than ordinary people." In the USSR, there was even a party maximum: Dzerzhinsky, for example, lived very modestly, but he fought successfully with homelessness and put whoever was needed against the wall without fail. I am for the fact that officials live NOT much richer than ordinary people, even if they have enough for Turkey, so that they have something to strive for in material terms, then things would go better.

[tracer]

How much is the history of the USSR? And how much is the history of civilization? Did not compare?

[hydrox]

You will not succeed in talking with the tracer: he has a liberoid worldview, but you have a productive one, i.e. any kind and type of activity tied to receiving a socially significant surplus product (service), part of which will fall into your pocket.
ANY stable and sustainable society has just such an algorithm of existence and functioning.

[tracer]

You just don’t speak for me and don’t hang me a shortcut. I completely define your definitions on the side. I just do not like those who have completely survived from the modern type of arbiters, who are always aching and always displeased. Tighten another favorite song about pension reform.

[NEXUS]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Well, it was not always the case that people "endowed with power lived much richer than ordinary people"

The phrase “Servant of the people” always led me into a stupor. The logical question is, how can a servant live better than those he serves? In my opinion there is a certain mockery of people.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tracer

Is always !!!! Empowered people lived much richer than ordinary people.

Once, one person in power, asked Stalin for an apartment. Then he asked for an apartment for the mother-in-law. After the third time he asked for an apartment for someone else, he was no longer seen in the Kremlin.

[tracer]

Yes, you already got Stalin, this is not an example and not an indicator. Stalin is the epoch! And there is nothing to put it every time as an example for any reason. NO IT AND WILL NOT BE MORE. EQUAL AS AND THIS EPOCH. And stop whining about how you all cheated and deceived. It is just like you who mostly climbed the barricades in the 90s. All you owed then.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tracer

It is just like you who mostly climbed the barricades in the 90s.

Just like you climbed, they throated their throats, and then they screwed them up over canada.

[tracer]

I have done enough for my fatherland. Why do I have the reward of statehood and you do not blame me. Are you barring your worthlessness in my example? Here my friend is mistaken. There is nothing to be proud of in life, unlike you dull.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: tracer

I have done enough for my fatherland. Why do I have the reward of statehood and you do not blame me. Are you barring your worthlessness in my example? Here my friend is mistaken. There is nothing to be proud of in life, unlike you dull.

I don’t know, of course, for what you personally were awarded and what award. But in our country, both Chubais and V. Soloviev and even Mutko (for achievements in sports, which were then wrapped in a white flag) also have state. awards. And the list of such dubious awards oh how long.
Therefore, the presence of a state award is not a sign that automatically makes you better than others. Everything is very individual here.
And for example, Lev Y. Rokhlin, Lieutenant General, one of the leaders of the storming of Grozny in 1994; in January 1995, refused the highest honorary title of Hero of the Russian Federation, stating that "he has no moral right to receive this award for military operations in the territory of his country."
And even Solzhenitsyn, although he was kindly treated by the current government, at one time managed to show integrity and in December 1998 refused to accept the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, making the following statement: “I can’t accept the award from the supreme power that brought Russia to its present disastrous state” .

[timeout]

Quote: Leshy1975

I don’t know, of course, for what you personally were awarded and what award.

The award for is, "Honorary Hero of the Internet". Again it drifts around corners.

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

For what statehood award I have not to reproach you.

Maybe a reward for strengthening statehood, or a state award? Only if you take into account that the times of the USSR no awards were given for participation in internal conflicts ... And in a bread slicer, you won't even earn the "Order of the Stoop". There were awards in 21 ODShBR, but not in combat, for Spitak and Leninakan. Again "Tracer" myo cash desk ...

[ccsr]

Quote: tracer

And stop whining about how you all cheated and deceived. It is just like you who mostly climbed the barricades in the 90s. All you owed then.

I agree, everything was just that. And now, when the train was long gone, they suddenly remembered Stalin, although who prevented them from going to the CPSU themselves and changing it in an evolutionary way during the late USSR.

[Bar2]

Quote: tracer

Is always !!!! Empowered people lived much richer than ordinary people. This is how the world works

No, of course, the world is not arranged like this, your people are criminals and thieves in power.

[tracer]

Tell me that you have never taken out electrodes from work, or nuts, or clothes, or products from a warehouse. Let’s say that they’ve never done it before. And even in childhood, apples were not stolen ...

[Fan-fan]

It’s one thing to steal an apple, and a completely different thing is a pension from the whole country for 5 years to steal.

[ccsr]

Quote: Bar2

no, of course, the world is not arranged so

Tell Trump and his "honest" friend Manafort:

Former head of Trump's campaign headquarters, Paul Manafort, will spend almost four years in prison and will be required to pay a fine of $ 50 and recover $ 24 million in damages.

And there are millions of such examples all over the world, so the world is designed exactly like that, as I proved to you tracer

[Fan-fan]

And what did Brezhnev personally steal from work?

[ccsr]

Quote: Fan-Fan

And what did Brezhnev personally steal from work?

In general, Brezhnev can be canonized and canonized — he has left millions of dollars in accounts with none of his children. But then the USSR did not live like the whole world, then we had a different morality — do you even understand this difference?

[Стена]

Let us congratulate our advanced workers in capitalist labor on a successful year:

Vladimir Potanin
Leonid Michelson
Vagit Alekperov
Gennady Timchenko
Alexey Mordashov,

This year they became richer by 1,667 trillion rubles.
For comparison, the accumulation of all Russians in 2019 increased by 1,137 trillion rubles ...

[Genry]

Quote: Wall

This year they became richer by 1,667 trillion rubles.
For comparison, the accumulation of all Russians in 2019 increased by 1,137 trillion

Warm and soft ...
Wealth and accumulation ....
Some oligarchs generally live on credit - you do not need to pay taxes on savings.

[hydrox]

Our wishes to them with NG and let them still grab at our expense with you, stand in their throat (into which the bulldozer can enter!) And they will soon suffocate from greed!

[Fan-fan]

And my wishes for them from NG and let the country quickly elect a new president, who will finally ask them "Where did you get the money, but explain how you earned it?"

[New Year day]

Quote: tracer

Empowered people lived much richer than ordinary people.

one clarification, they didn’t steal it.
1. “Billionaire Liu Han was found guilty under 13 articles of the PRC criminal code. Hanlong Group, which Liu Han founded in 1997 and became one of the largest suppliers of iron ore in the world, was fined 300 million yuan (3,1 billion rubles) at the same time for providing incorrect information for obtaining bank loans. The investigation established that one of the richest people in China secretly led a large criminal group engaged in murders, illegal casinos and arms trafficking. Four people from his inner circle were executed along with Liu Han. ”
2. The largest corruption scandal in the history of FIFA erupted in late May 2015. The Swiss authorities have arrested several senior officials of the football organization on charges of corruption. 14 major officials were charged with money laundering, embezzlement, match-fixing and other crimes. Moreover, impunity lasted almost 24 years, according to investigation documents. Because of the scandal, FIFA President Joseph Blatter resigned. In addition to him, UEFA President Michel Platini lost his post.
3. In 2012, the FBI discovered an amazing scam in its scope. The head of the financial service of Dickson (Illinois), Rita Crandwell, for seven years annually stole more than 9% of the city budget. As a result, the lady profited by almost $ 30 million. The fraudster was sentenced to severe punishment - 22 years in prison.
For 2019, the Russian Federation takes 138th place in the corruption perception rating, gaining 28 points. There has been a deterioration in positions over the past 3 years.

[tracer]

Well, so what? What does this prove? That all criminals and thieves are you Dartarian? What does this prove? You understand the world has long been different in it the poles are no longer as pronounced as before. These are the white ones, the red ones. I understand that thinking in binary thinking of the simplest, you cannot make other conclusions. There is a criminal or administrative code for criminals.

[New Year day]

Quote: tracer

Well, so what? What does this prove?

proves that there is a punishment, but not in our case. Take the last case: the former Minister of Finance of the Moscow Region stole 14 billion, he was given 14 years, but they counted the time of sitting under investigation. They didn’t confiscate anything! Let’s take Vasilyeva; they apologized altogether and returned everything.

[Cananecat]

It will end when once again they raise the pitchfork. And since a re-assault of the Winter Palace is not expected, in view of the museums of the famous cruiser, this will continue until they begin to remove from the post with confiscation of all property ... well, or execution.

[Maz]

"Maybe I will give out a certain kind of secret. In December, at the Sochi meetings, where we seriously discussed the state of the space group in the interests of the Ministry of Defense, there was a very tough, serious conversation"that is, before that, starting from the moment the group was created, they joked, joked, played, had a rest, were engaged in personal construction, but they did not seriously engage in the group, but here they seriously decided to talk ... shame it would be better if he kept silent

[astepanov]

Quote: Antidote

D. Batutovich R. will be removed with entry?

... with an even higher position? How is Mutko? No, citizens, journalist-philosophers with a doctorate in technical sciences are a piece commodity. Less often, only presidential pianists. No matter how he was appointed as his successor, God forbid, following the example of neighbors from the "brotherly country."

[Dreamboat]

Borisov can only make a helpless gesture and say what has not been done again. He himself does not want to answer for anything and does not even try to delve into.
The trouble-free start-up is not a small achievement, especially after several years of constant problems. Borisov would not be mocking about it. The eastern one is built, little things are being completed (there are friends who go there for work). At the Omsk Flight, the galvanizing workshop was launched ... And every year only the ultimate optimists can wait for a "breakthrough".

[Fan-fan]

And was there at least one breakthrough in the last 20 years? Hitler communists won - this is a breakthrough. They did the same bomb - this is a breakthrough, flew into space - this is also a breakthrough. And where are the liberal democrats similar breakthroughs?

[Twodi]

While the management of the factories and design bureaus will put sons of all sorts of plundering the country, no other results are expected. What is the son of Rogozin a genius to be vice president of the KLA in 30 years? While all posts are appointed only for the surname and relationship, we will continue to roll in the ass!

[pmkemcity]

But what about the lunar station, like 2 places in the Unions? It’s unforgivable for the Deputy Prime Minister not to notice such successes.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: pmkemcity

But what about the lunar station, like 2 places in the Unions? It’s unforgivable for the Deputy Prime Minister not to notice such successes.

What is the success, Rogozin expressed a desire to return to negotiations on participation in the American lunar station and Rogozin promised NASA two seats on the Soyuz? It looks more like at first he tried to bargain (said that there were no more seats on the Soyuz and there would be no participation in the station on unequal conditions), but then he saw that the partners were not running into his arms, and returned everything as it was.

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

What is the success, Rogozin expressed a desire to return to negotiations on participation in the American lunar station

The funny thing about this phrase "expressed a desire to return" - we have never refused any negotiations. Constantly, as we concluded a memorandum of understanding on this issue, we are talking about the truly international status of this facility. However, the Americans also declare their internationality. But they understand the concept of "international" in a slightly different way.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

and Rogozin promised NASA two seats on Soyuz?

For a lot of money.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

More like ...

Do they have a choice?

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: slipped

The funny thing about this phrase "expressed a desire to return" - we have never refused any negotiations.

MOSCOW, September 22 - RIA Novosti. The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that the Russian side would not take part in the joint project with the United States for the circumlunar station The Gateway on the terms offered by the Americans.

"The Russian Federation cannot afford to participate in secondary roles," he said.
https://ria.ru/20180922/1529135782.html

There is not a word in the news about the return to the negotiations that the proposed conditions have somehow changed.

Quote: slipped

Constantly, as we concluded a memorandum of understanding on this issue, we are talking about the truly international status of this facility. However, the Americans also declare their internationality. But they understand the concept of "international" in a slightly different way.

Lunar Gateway is currently not an object, but a project. And this is entirely a NASA project, so other participants in it will either be on NASA terms, or not at all. Or you can do your project on your own terms, no one bothers you.

Quote: slipped

For a lot of money.

Only news about the purchase is not heard. Only the words of Rogozin are heard "we have made a decision in principle to provide NASA with space on our ships."

Quote: slipped

Do they have a choice?

So far, I only see Rogozin running around and running, trying to sell himself better.

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that the Russian side will not take part in the joint project with the United States for the circumlunar station The Gateway on the terms proposed by the Americans.

"The Russian Federation cannot afford to participate in secondary roles," he said. [/ I]
https://ria.ru/20180922/1529135782.html

There is not a word in the news about the return to the negotiations that the proposed conditions have somehow changed.

And what RIA we have an official representative of Roscosmos or NASA?

But there were still no negotiations. Take the time to watch a plenary session on the topic at the International Astronautical Congress in the USA. Krikalev outlines everything there in detail.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Lunar Gateway is currently not an object, but a project. And this is entirely a NASA project, so other participants in it will either be on NASA terms, or not at all. Or you can do your project on your own terms, no one bothers you.

Add IMHO to your speech.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Only news about the purchase is not heard. Only the words of Rogozin are heard "we have made a decision in principle to provide NASA with space on our ships."

And, you don’t know that all the places for foreign astronauts on the Union of MS are sold? Well, I’ll educate you that the Americans and their satellites pay more than $ 70 million to launch their astronaut to the ISS.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

So far, I only see Rogozin running around and running, trying to sell himself better.

Running and fussing here so far only you. And we are engaged in launches.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: slipped

And what RIA we have an official representative of Roscosmos or NASA?

No, the official representative of Roscosmos is Rogozin, and RIA is the Russian state news agency. Was this the most convincing objection you could come up with?

Quote: slipped

But there were still no negotiations. Take the time to watch a plenary session on the topic at the International Astronautical Congress in the USA. Krikalev outlines everything there in detail.

Not too lazy. Rogozin’s application to refuse participation 1) more relevant in time 2) comes from a person in a higher position.

Quote: slipped

Add IMHO to your speech.

Reread Rogozin's statement and try to answer two questions: 1) who makes the conditions 2) who either agrees to the conditions put forward, or leaves the project. And then fold two and two.

Quote: slipped

And, you don’t know that all the places for foreign astronauts on the Union of MS are sold?

I know. So where is the news about NASA buying seats on Soyuz in 2020 and 2021?

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

No, the official representative of Roscosmos is Rogozin, and RIA is the Russian state news agency. Was this the most convincing objection you could come up with?

This is regular media with news such as OBS. And official statements are usually documented or in the form of an informational message on the organization’s official website.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Rogozin’s application to refuse participation 1) more relevant in time 2) comes from a person in a higher position.

Show a link to an official document or a "rejection" message, for example a letter to NASA on a subject. No? Mlyn. Oh, sir? the same thing.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

1) who makes the conditions; 2) who either agrees to the conditions put forward, or leaves the project. And then fold two and two.

What conditions? What are you speaking about? While there is one blah blah blah. And from all sides. Didn’t you understand this? There is only a preliminary agreement with NASA on a joint study of the project, formal negotiations are yet to come. And by agreement, we offer for this station our specialized docking and lock module for our own transport system.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

I know. So where is the news about NASA buying seats on Soyuz in 2020 and 2021?

Statement by Gary Jordan, NASA Spokesman for the ISS on November 20 this year: "NASA intends to acquire additional seats on the Soyuz to ensure a permanent American presence aboard the ISS", "Negotiations between NASA and Roscosmos are still ongoing."

In the meantime, on April 9, 2020, astronaut Christopher John Cassidy is flying on the Soyuz MS-16 TPK. For money.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: slipped

And official statements are usually documented or in the form of an informational message on the organization’s official website.

As for participation in the Deep Space Gateway: if this is a purely American project, and everyone else should be "on the fly", then we are not interested. We are ready only for equal cooperation.
https://www.roscosmos.ru/25418/

Quote: slipped

Statement by Gary Jordan, NASA Spokesman for the ISS on November 20 this year: "NASA intends to acquire additional seats on the Soyuz to ensure a permanent American presence aboard the ISS", "Negotiations between NASA and Roscosmos are still ongoing."

Please confirm with a link to an official document or informational message on the official website of the organization. You will not refuse to comply with the established standards of credible information, right?

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

As for participation in the Deep Space Gateway: if this is a purely American project, and everyone else should be "on the fly", then we are not interested. We are ready only for equal cooperation.https://www.roscosmos.ru/25418/

Of course. I told you about this. And Krikalev said this recently at the congress. This is constantly being said. What confuses you with this? It is about such our participation that they are going to conduct future negotiations.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Please confirm with a link to an official document or informational message on the official website of the organization.

You have the link above for an interview for TASS, reprinted on the Roskosmos website in the Interview section. In turn, as I understand it, do you trust TASS?
Then here - https://tass.ru/kosmos/7156765 Quote: "Gary Jordan told a TASS correspondent on Tuesday."

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: slipped

What confuses you with this?

It bothers me that the discussion is ahead of whether Roskosmos will be in the wings, or if he is not interested. But will NASA be in the wings, or is she not interested. From this, it is easy to guess who determines the conditions for participation in the project, and who accepts or rejects them along with participation in the project.

Quote: slipped

You have the link above for an interview for TASS, reprinted on the Roskosmos website in the Interview section. In turn, as I understand it, do you trust TASS?
Then here - https://tass.ru/kosmos/7156765 Quote: "Gary Jordan told a TASS correspondent on Tuesday."

No, please go to the official website of the organization. Even if it contains a reprint from TASS in the "interview" section, the site must be official.

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Quote: slipped

What confuses you with this?

It bothers me that the discussion is ....

Well, I didn’t even doubt it. As I understand it, you personally are against any discussions about cooperation in space?

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

From this, by simple conclusions, it follows who sets the conditions for participation in the project, and who accepts or rejects them along with participation in the project.

So there was no negotiation, what are the conclusions then? Your conclusions are forks on the water.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

No, please, on the official website of the organization. Even if it contains a reprint of TASS in the interview section, but the site should be official.

So I gave you a link to the official website of the organization, in this case TASS, whose employee Gary Jordan was informed in an interview. What are you talking about? Do you deny such an employee in NASA (https://twitter.com/g2nasa) or are you already carrying out a blizzard?

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: slipped

This is regular media with news such as OBS. And official statements are usually documented or in the form of an informational message on the organization’s official website.

Quote: slipped

So I gave you a link to the official website of the organization, in this case TASS

There is no sense to talk further.

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

There is no sense to talk further.

Probably. I see that you do not know why and how they differ in the presentation of TASS and RIA news.

[Avior]

that is not the day, then the news ....
by the end of the year they were preparing ....

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Avior

by the end of the year they were preparing ....

By the end of the end they are getting ready ... is it not clear here?

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[Avior]

that is not the day, then the news ....
by the end of the year they were preparing ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

that is not the day, then the news ....
by the end of the year they were preparing ....

I read a piece of news that from 01.01.2020 Russia introduces a tax on bicycles. Is it fake or is it true?

[depressant]

It's true. Beneficiary - Swiss citizen Usmanov. The message passed on Yandex just the other day.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: depressant

Beneficiary - Swiss citizen Usmanov.

So he is a resident of Switzerland, which means taxes in Russia bye-bye. Well settled guys from Central Asia.

[Alien From]

Bad, very bad! And this is against the backdrop of news about Chinese successes in the construction of destroyers. It's a shame for the country, just a shame!

[prior]

"Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, in charge of the defense and space spheres, said that the renewal of the military space group in 2019 has been disrupted."

I hope so. salaries of industry leaders and effective managers will not suffer much from this .....

[Svarog]

Quote: prior

"Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, in charge of the defense and space spheres, said that the renewal of the military space group in 2019 has been disrupted."

I hope so. salaries of industry leaders and effective managers will not suffer much from this .....

Be calm, their salaries are only growing .. and of course the fair question is - what do they pay for? After all, if we say a bricklayer or a milling machine worker will constantly make a marriage .. then it’s understandable that he won’t obviously grow and he’s unlikely to work for a long time in this place .. But here the laws of the market apparently do not work .. apparently the president really believes that works with the most professional staff and they can’t find a replacement in all of Russia ..

[Errr]

Quote: Svarog

... you see, the president really believes that he is working with the most professional personnel and they cannot be replaced in all of Russia ..

This is just a tradition. Nothing new since the time of Sergei Vladimirovich Mikhalkov:

The question with donkeys is clear, but not simple;
You can take off the Donkey, since it is necessary, the skin
And wind him a tail for all the mistakes,
But if Donkey got into the nomenclature,
Take out and give him a leadership position!

"Donkey in a clip", 1957.

[Fan-fan]

God forbid, such a donkey as Dima Batutovich will determine the supreme successor, brrrr ... scary.

[Victorio]

one water, no specifics. if you have already begun to make excuses or stigmatize someone, then go ahead, you have the right as a leader, otherwise liberals, ill-wishers, dissatisfied and not-so-good will agree / think up / think up for you.

[Invoce]

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, in charge of the defense and space spheres, said that the renewal of the military space group in 2019 was disrupted. He told about this in an interview with the TV channel "Russia 24"

How to get ripped off ?? We have the most effective business managers.
Serdyukov, Rogozin, Siluanov, Golikova, Skvortsova .....
Who would have thought! Shuffle again! Skvortsov to RosKosmos, Rogozin to finance, and Serdyukov to healthcare !!!! Golikov where? Let him be the vice premier and oversee the below named And so as not to flinch - increase everyone's salary by 2! not 2 and a half times !!!

[Van 16]

It’s possible in three, otherwise serious western companies will lead our successful and efficient ones ..

[New Year day]

Quote: Invoce

Golikov where?

on nuclear power

[kubanec]

News from the site Made with us: -------------- Today, December 27, at 02.11 Moscow time, the Rokot launch vehicle with 4 satellites on board, 3 satellites, was launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome in the Arkhangelsk region Gonets-M communications and military satellite. The launch of the rocket and the launch of spacecraft into orbit took place as usual. The Breeze-KM overclocking unit is used .---------------

[Aerodrome]

Quote: kubanec

News from the site Made with us

we’ll live right now!

[Same lech]

Why the military manages to launch their satellites in a regular way ... why missiles with civilian satellites regularly fall for various reasons ... I just can not understand ...
Ditch 19 satellites on November 28, 2017, when the Soyuz-2.1b rocket is launched, this should be tried hard.

[slipped]

Quote: The same Lech

I can’t understand this in any way ...

Coincidence. This was the first launch of the Fregat upper stage from the new cosmodrome, where a hidden error in the software algorithms was revealed. RB "Fregat", prior to the manifestation of this error, made about fifty successful launches earlier. Everything has been fixed for a long time.

[slipped]

Interestingly, where did the news about Rokot, which successfully started tonight, with four satellites went away?



This year Russia has 25 successful launches of space rockets out of 32 previously planned. Seven launches, some of them military, were postponed to the next year due to the unavailability of spacecraft.

[Mestny]

And this is an example of the opinion of one official.
He believes that everything is lost, no success. Among them, too, there are all-wearers oddly enough.

[New Year day]

Quote: Mestny

Among them, too, there are all-wearers oddly enough.

or maybe adequate and understanding what is going on?

[Mityay65]

An accident? “I don't think so!”
P / S / Kindle anti-Rogozin moods by individual deputy prime ministers and websites ...

[slipped]

Quote: Mityai65

An accident? “I don't think so!”
P / S / Kindle anti-Rogozin moods by individual deputy prime ministers and websites ...

Attempts to launch the spacecraft, turning a blind eye to the shortcomings identified by the test results as before, are now being thwarted. Hence the delayed launches.

[hydrox]

And Stalin would be returned to the "sharashka" for this on courses of increasing responsibility and, of course, with a demotion ...

[karabass]

So they wiser when they sat on my neck, shouted with good obscenities and demanded the almost impossible, I deliberately turned away when I saw that they were driving the marriage. So he taught fools to the best of their ability

[Aerodrome]

This year Russia has 25 successful launches of space rockets out of 32 previously planned. Seven launches, some of them military, were postponed to next year due to the unavailability of spacecraft

so far, we are still in the "top three", but not the first, the United States and China are ahead.

[slipped]

Quote: Aerodrome

but not the first, the usa and china are ahead.

China has dramatically increased the number of launches and reached the value for our launches in the XNUMXs. The United States broke out at the expense of privateers launching an Electron rocket from New Zealand. Next year, we will double the number of Soyuz missile launches.

[Fan-fan]

In 2019, in terms of the number of launches, we came in second place, ahead of the Americans by 1 launch.
(data from Wikipedia).

[slipped]

Quote: Fan-Fan

In 2019, in terms of the number of launches, we came in second place, ahead of the Americans by 1 launch.
(data from Wikipedia).

Yes, 22 launches from their spaceports, versus the 21st from the United States, but this is if you do not take into account foreign launch operators - Kourou and New Zealand.

[1536]

So, 7 launches were not made. This is not one, not two, or even three, when due to negligence or idleness, plans are not fulfilled. Sorry, these are plans that are impossible to implement. The space industry is like that cow, even if you wind a tail around it or hang a wreath of daisies on its horns, it will not give more milk than it gives. Surprisingly, they reach the rank of generals, but think, excuse me, as warrant officers as part of their subordinate fuel and lubricant warehouse.

[Alien From]

Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! But the "effective" have their own logic ..... or rather, their own exorbitant greed!

[slipped]

Quote: 1536

So, 7 launches were not made.

Part of the launches that moved to the next year are commercial. In particular, the serial launch of OneWeb space Internet satellites was previously planned for this year. The western manufacturer failed in time with the tests. The same thing with the commercial launches in 2019 of other spacecraft - Northrop Grumman and Airbus also delayed the production of their payload displayed by our launch vehicles, which led to a shift in the launch schedule.

As for the military spacecraft, then everything is decided by the Defense Ministry.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: slipped

This year Russia has 25 successful launches of space rockets out of 32 previously planned.

It was promised 45.

[slipped]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

It was promised 45.

45 - this includes the launch of ICBMs produced at Roskosmos enterprises.

To date, 10 such launches are known.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: slipped

... Russia this year has 25 successful launches of space rockets from the previously 32 planned ....

Hmm, I remember Rogozin told the president something else: "At the beginning of the year, the head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, told President Vladimir Putin about the plan for 45 launches, but by the end of the year Roscosmos announced that 25 launches had been completed."

"The launch programs have been completed by a little more than 50%" (c) Borisov.

[slipped]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Hmm, I remember Rogozin told the president something else: "At the beginning of the year, the head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, told President Vladimir Putin about the plan for 45 launches, but by the end of the year Roscosmos announced that 25 launches had been completed."

It is explained above what the number of 45 - 32 launches of space rockets and 13 launches of ICBMs, which were collected and accompanied before the launch by Roscosmos, consisted of.

As a result, for the year 2019:

25 launches of space rockets
5 launches of land-based ICBMs
5 launches of ICBMs from submarines

And this is from what got into the media

[ultra]

Quote: slipped

Russia this year has 25 successful launches of space rockets out of 32 previously planned

Yeah, except for the fact that all launches are on the legacy of the USSR. There are no Russian launch vehicles and are not expected in the foreseeable future.

[slipped]

Quote: ultra

Yeah, except for the fact that all launches are on the legacy of the USSR. There are no Russian launch vehicles and are not expected in the foreseeable future.

In 2020, A5 rocket launches from Plesetsk and the OSI of the Soyuz-5 first stage engine.

[Loess]

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who oversees the defense and space sectors, said that the renewal of the military space group in 2019 was disrupted.

Where did he look before? Curator...

[Sitearvi]

Every day it’s getting worse and worse, because the same deck is hanging out, and not one from this deck is not thrown out. They are all happy in this deck. Why bother working?

[1536]

Self-critical: does the Moscow Region itself criticize itself for disrupting its own plans in Space? As always, hazing is to blame?

[Mityay65]

No ... it's MO as a hint - "Rogozin is to blame for everything."

[1536]

Ah, that's it! .. And instead of him, of course, there is already a "good man" in mind, so that everything is in the same hands ... Now everything is clear.

[MoJloT]

Borisov also criticized the Russian space industry as a whole

He does not look particularly upset.

[Comrade Michael]

Interestingly, what are the salaries of workers and engineers? And just do not tell me that a person needs 45-50 thousand rubles for complete happiness ... Something does not grow out of nothing.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

And just do not tell me that a person needs 45-50 thousand rubles for complete happiness ...

We will not say anything, let the classics answer you:

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[Fan-fan]

Here is what I discovered on the net:
In 2018, Rogozin earned 29,5 million rubles, or $ 460 thousand. At the same time, the annual salary of NASA executives does not exceed $ 250 thousand (approximately 16 million rubles).
“With ordinary engineers, the situation is exactly the opposite. An engineer at NASA receives an average of $ 82 thousand per year, that is, 430 thousand rubles per month, and at the Russian company Roscosmos - 60 thousand rubles per month, ”the investigation said.

[Alexey-74]

I think if you delve into failure not only in the space sphere .....

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Secret information in the media? For treason - the term.

[_TANKIST_]

Our government, like a bad intestine, it constantly happens with and without a DISORDER!

[spectr]

Instructions were given to create a commission, it is already working, and no later than January 20 will report to the president about the reasons that accompanied the disruption of these works

Interestingly, does this mean that a command has been given to conduct the next rotation and now they will begin cleaning up the unnecessary ones?
To develop such a document, it is necessary to attract a large number of people and analyze the situation at all levels (not only managerial ones, since they can give an unreliable picture there). And then following the logic "brought a problem - grab a solution", it is necessary to propose ways to solve the problem. And this decision may have to be answered in the future.
I more believe that they will choose the "scapegoat" (everyone remembered Rogozin together) and try to hush up the "topic" before the presidential elections.

[Kibl]

The best gift for Russians on New Year is to disperse the Russian cabinet. Most likely, you can leave someone but most .....

[Vladimir61]

Quote: KIBL

Probably someone can be left but most .....

Three (Shoigu, Borisov, Bortnikov), a revolutionary tribunal ....

[Azazelo]

maybe yes, and maybe disa, but in general anything can be .....

[7,62x54]

Give Rogozin a PM with one cartridge, and close it in the toilet. May he already act as a man of honor

[1536]

Yes, the German toilets simply got it: the sound of a voice is lowered or lowered, depending on whether the man is a woman or a woman. No tolerance. But with one cartridge they can’t be taken, here a sledgehammer is needed.

[mikh-korsakov]

Eugene! But in Germany, 5 floors are already quoted. Poor toilet designers, alas !!!

[Nord2015]

will miss

[7,62x54]

This one can. He dabbled in Macedonian like a dabbler. He shot himself in the leg.

[depressant]

About the toilet - great! Thank you colleagues! Laughed for a long time

[New Year day]

Quote: Nord2015

will miss

then help with pointing the sledgehammer to the lobeshnik

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Bar2

so the news has arrived. So the hangar is on, we are building a spaceport under the hangar, Proton is to be left, then Proton is flying, and the hangar is sucks. They promised to put HK33 on the Union, did not deliver, neither HK33, nor RD170, what are they pulling? Right now it’s necessary, there is no direct urine to make the Yenisei, although there is Energy.
Here is Putin’s capitalism, but Putin’s Russia is ahead of the rest in terms of the number of yachts for a billion dollar soul. All that is good in this country is from the Great USSR, and these rulers can only share income among themselves.
When will it all end?

Let's demonstrate the program

[Alexey from Perm]

"Effective managers and owners" shit again

[Svetlana]

Quote: Antidote

Will organizational conclusions follow and D. Batutovich R. will be removed with the entry?

As far as I remember, or to put it in a modern way: EMNIP, the problem of lump rests on the problem of microelectronics production. Special, "space" microelectronics capable of long and trouble-free operation in space. Such "space" chips are still
recently purchased in the United States, but today they are not sold.
Therefore, whoever you don’t put in the head, the problem, until the production of chips is adjusted, will not disappear.

[asv363]

And the United States bought them in China.

[Antidote]

And all sarmatians with avant-gardes are stuffed with BISamy with punch cards?
One thing is not clear to me why some countries developed from hoes to robots in 30 years, while others drove their citizens into the Stone Age with fairy tales

[Svetlana]

The problem actually exists, and to all, according to your words, Sarmatians and Vanguards, the requirements for protection from prolonged exposure to cosmic radiation and radiation are much, much smaller. If at all.

[7,62x54]

When we sank to the bottom, we were knocked from below

[Qwertyarion]

. by January 20, the reasons for the failure of work to upgrade the Russian group of military satellites will be reported

And why only by the end of the year did it come to light?
During the year, no one was interested in the progress of affairs?

[7,62x54]

The demographic pit is to blame

[depressant]

Great, colleague!

[BAI]

Work on the development of the Russian constellation of military satellites disrupted

For some reason, not at all surprised. What else to expect from Rogozin and Co. Trampolines did not deliver the desired system.

[kubanec]

1. A trouble-free year.

For the first time since 2009, all launches from our spaceports were completed successfully. We can only congratulate Roskosmos and wish that such an achievement become a tradition.

2. The increase in the number of launches.

This year, 22 space launches were made from our space centers - 5 more than last year and the maximum number for the last 4 years. I would like to hope that the “bottom” for launches is behind, especially since the implementation of the contract with OneWeb begins next year, and there is still work ahead on our own “Sphere”, as well as on “KUpol” and “Liana” systems in the interests of Moscow Region.

It is also worth noting that out of 22 launches, only 2 were performed in the interests of foreign customers, with 1 launch being the launch of the EgyptSat-2 satellite, built by RSC Energia for Egypt, into orbit. That is, an increase in launches went to the development of its own orbital group.

3. Spectrum-RG

A significant event not only for Russian, but for the entire world science was the launch of the scientific satellite "Spectrum-RG" July 13, 2019 .----------------- From the site Made with us

[slipped]

Quote: kubanec

It is also worth noting that out of 22 launches, only 2 were performed in the interests of foreign customers

You have forgotten about foreign small-haired cluster launch vehicles from Vostochny. And also about three commercial launches from Kuru.

[lopuhan2006]

And what will the director of the Trampoline Center say? After all, we will soon have a UAZ biathlon on the Moon ....

[Udav kaa]

and no later than January 20 will report to the president about the reasons that accompanied the disruption of these works

Respect also told the truth .. And sometimes we like to cheat and shout cheers .... I hope the problem will be solved in a short time.!

[Victor March 47]

And why the official occupies this high position, since to understand the reasons for his idleness at the post, do you need a commission? What is this .... doing? To drive everyone, having previously driven through the investigation, court and debunking. Guilty to plant and dispossess. Loafers are just to drive.

Four for before the end of the year sent a signal. Apparently, in order to signal that he worked in sweat all year? He covers his ass, ......!

[exo]

Import substitution did not take place. And on the site of the "Svetlana" buildings, in St. Petersburg, where they produced microcircuits, etc., they are going to build a new residential complex.

[senima56]

Until there is "personal responsibility" for the assigned direction, there will be no sense! It is necessary for the leader to feel that he will have to answer seriously! Otherwise, they will shake a finger .... and be transferred from Roscosmos to Russian Railways or somewhere else!

[Brancodd]

Borisov stubbornly seeks the resignation of Rogozin. This obviously became even in the summer when he tried to change the contractor in Vostochny. Lobbied a new version of the infamous Spetsstroy. Although I was well aware that the schedule is being maintained. It’s impossible to steal there, as all payments go through the treasury. Then Putin did not fall for it.
Now this criticism is more than strange. There is a feeling that Borisov and those who stand behind him were waiting for failure at launches to the last. And when today the Messengers successfully launched into orbit in the last launch, they decided to catch on the number of launches.
But in terms of the number of launches, we are ahead of the United States this year, although until the last month we went head to head. 25 of ours versus 21 in the USA. When was the last time? China has 34 launches, but 2 failures. As we have already reported here for the first time in ten years - a trouble-free year. Is it bad? Tell it to the European Space Agency with their Vega and ten launches. Rather, the year was relatively successful. Relative to previous
So the thing is different. 24 year is coming. We must take control of all key positions, including Roscosmos. Rogozin for a significant part of the elite is not just a stranger, but a principal antagonist. It must be stripped with a wolf ticket. Remember Medvedev’s tantrum in June, when he literally squealed with a demand to plow, not to chat. Of course, he shouted at Rogozin. It is very funny to hear the demand to stop chatting from Medvedev .. It’s quite difficult for them to sew corruption to Rogozin. By the standards of officials of this level, he lives quite modestly. This is not difficult to verify. It remains to ascribe to him the failures of the industry, but these failures still need to be found and associated personally with Rogozin
Roscosmos funding was cut exactly 2 times by the government in 2016.
Mamut and his media resources are engaged in a targeted program to discredit Roscosmos in particular and Rogozin personally. Rambler and Lenta.ru begin as a rule. The rest pick up.
In fact, signs of an improvement in the situation in Roscosmos began to appear even about a year before Rogozin arrived in Roscosmos. Over the past 2 years, the situation has gradually begun to improve. Rogozin was a good organizer. In my opinion, the new program is quite realistic and quite feasible with good governance, even taking into account the scarce resources allocated by the government. After 2 -3 years, this can give a result. Therefore, you need to remove it now. An approximate scheme was used during Putin’s hesitation - to appoint or not to appoint Glazyev as the head of the Central Bank. A powerful information attack - and now Nabiulina is the head of the Bank of Russia.

[Mityay65]

Roscosmos: 2019 results

We will be on the moon! We will be on Mars! We will also be in the orbit of Jupiter! All will be!
And in the Tycho Crater on the Moon, we’ll bury trolls and all-crawlers!
Happy New Year!

[Gennady Fomkin]

The most important secret of Russian space exploration has remained unsolved - who drilled the ISS? I wonder why our current designers decided to copy American descent vehicles?

[G. Georgiev]

Not a secret ... This is an American woman-cosmonaut because of the internal discomfort of the ISS associated with the monthly cycle of women. The name of the interview and recognition of this woman, saw last month, and she said that
it is a kind of boycott.

[G. Georgiev]

How so. ". Works .. disrupted" .. Russia should be a leader in this space and technological sphere.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The results of the year in space science ... Reprint from SUN ... By Jurgen ... Together with the Kuru cosmodrome there were only 25 launches of Russian rockets ... Maybe the lunar program is not just chatter, as I thought at first ... At least preparations are underway and routine work on the project ... The state of affairs in space is gradually improving. But in the comments someone will appear with a story: "Evil Rogozin stole everything, but there are no achievements in space science!"
In any case, the dogs bark, the caravan goes ..

[Gennady Fomkin]

On January 10, a working meeting was held between the specialists of Roscosmos and RSC Energia, as a result of which the development of the concept of a new transport system for manned flights to the orbit of the moon using the special version of the Soyuz MS spacecraft was started. Such a flight scheme of the new Soyuz, in which it will launch to the Moon from the orbit of the ISS, is preliminarily considered. The hover module of the new system will consist of the special version of the Soyuz MS spacecraft and the upper stage, which will be delivered to the ISS by two launches of the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicles. The flight module will be assembled in space under the control of the crew of the ISS Russian segment.

On January 14, 2019, RSC Energia presented the Soyuz spacecraft for flights to the Moon and all the necessary technical calculations to Roscosmos.

To enable the Soyuz spacecraft to fly, it’s not enough to create a booster block that will send the ship to the Moon, one of the main problems is the need to develop a new thermal protection that will allow the ship to descend in the Earth’s atmosphere at the second cosmic speed upon returning from the Moon (11,2 kilometers per second). For the lunar version of the "Union" will also require new power supply systems, communications and life support. In addition, to ensure Soyuz’s flights to the moon, installation of star sensors, manual control devices, an evaporation system, additional engines and oxygen cylinders is required.

On June 19, 2019, a researcher at the Central Scientific Research Institute of Engineering Maria Danilova told the Roskosmos television studio that the institute had begun the development of technology demonstrators for landing Russian cosmonauts on the moon.

[bars1]

Quote: G. Georgiev

How so. ". Works .. disrupted" .. Russia should be a leader in this space and technological sphere.

To do this, it should be in the top three in economics, at least in PPP.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Developed reusable two-stage launch vehicle of the middle class. It is assumed that in the future it will be able to replace the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle.

On September 26, 2019, a contract was placed on the government procurement website for the creation of a methane engine at the Voronezh KBHA with an initial (maximum) price of 765,78 million rubles with a completion date of November 15, 2021 (“Creating new generation rocket engines and basic elements of long-range propulsion propulsion systems deductions regarding the works of 2019-2021 ”; cipher of the SC NRC:“ DU SV ”(2021)). According to the terms of reference, the engine was named RD0177, thrust should be 85 tf, earth specific impulse - 312 s, and the mass should not exceed 2200 kg.

To date, the RCC "Progress" has worked out the layout of the rocket and options for launch complexes for it. The new rocket, unlike Soyuz-2, will not have side blocks, but will receive a tandem scheme - one block at the first stage, one at the second, that is, the layout will look like Zenith. At the first and second steps, it is planned to use respectively the earth and high-altitude versions of the promising RD-0169 engine, the prototype of which received the RD-0177 index.

In addition, work has begun on a promising upper stage. At the end of May 2019, a contract was posted on the public procurement website for the creation of KVTK ("Creation of a complex of an oxygen-hydrogen upper stage (Code of development work" Dvina-KVTK ")"). In 2019-2025, it is planned to spend a total of 9,1 billion rubles

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Bar2

so the news has arrived. So the hangar is on, we are building a spaceport under the hangar, Proton is to be left, then Proton is flying, and the hangar is sucks. They promised to put HK33 on the Union, did not deliver, neither HK33, nor RD170, what are they pulling? Right now it’s necessary, there is no direct urine to make the Yenisei, although there is Energy.
Here is Putin’s capitalism, but Putin’s Russia is ahead of the rest in terms of the number of yachts for a billion dollar soul. All that is good in this country is from the Great USSR, and these rulers can only share income among themselves.
When will it all end?

When this communist mess ended, turned and called the market. The official is not responsible for anything, and not only in our USSR-Russia. EVERYWHERE. For, because we appoint a parent, who is also appointed a parent. They all, all this pyramid, need not the results, but beautiful reports. So that the authorities used these reports in their excuses too. In case of failures, find the culprit below yourself, dumping everything on him. In the USSR, there was even a special structure to which all those who had stolen and failed were exiled. And who could not be touched by the udder, for they could tell such that ..... And this structure was called Trade Unions.
Only the PARTICIPANT is responsible, not to the boss, he does not have it, but to the property itself. Burnt, and that's it, not everyone can rise again.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Snowstorm! Well, it was not always the case that people "endowed with power lived much richer than ordinary people." In the USSR, there was even a party maximum: Dzerzhinsky, for example, lived very modestly, but he fought successfully with homelessness and put whoever was needed against the wall without fail. I am for the fact that officials live NOT much richer than ordinary people, even if they have enough for Turkey, so that they have something to strive for in material terms, then things would go better.

I will tell you a secret. EVEN KGB could not observe the behavior of party functionaries starting with the district level. For, this was regarded as an attempt on the authority of the Party. Reached a complete idiocy. Stealing to such an extent that it was no longer possible to shield, since you yourself will get dirty, at the beginning of the investigation, at first he was expelled from the Party, not even waiting for the verdict, and he went to the dock already non-partisan. So beautiful statistics were preserved that there was not a single one with a party card on the bunks. Petty theft, nesunov from the factory were judged. And they planted it. But the krupnyak, he was untouchable. Stop talking about the fact that Lenin had one cap. This abomination used the COUNTRY as its patrimony. Why would he have a palace? He already lived in the royal apartments in the Kremlin.

[mikh-korsakov]

Victor! Personally, I have never been a member of any party, which I am proud of. You replaced the RCP (b), the CPSU (b) with the late Communist Party Communist Party. With regard to corruption in the CPSU, if you are discussing it so professionally, it means you were allowed into it and familiarized with the facts, you know better, if not, then you are a gossip translator. As for the historical figures of the Leninist era, all my life they have been talking to me about all kinds of things, that I stopped believing in anyone, Putin’s estimates, as I don’t believe yours. I only know that the grandfather of my wife worked at the secretariat in Smolny before the government moved to Moscow. He worked in Leningrad at an arms factory, died in a blockade from starvation and wounds - he shared his ration with his mother-in-law. And I will not let anyone know his memory, and let them not sit down!

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Udav Kaa

and no later than January 20 will report to the president about the reasons that accompanied the disruption of these works

Respect also told the truth .. And sometimes we like to cheat and shout cheers .... I hope the problem will be solved in a short time.!

Of course, after all, on January 2 no one will know about it. That everything has failed in the toilet. Therefore, there is an indulgence - "I warned." What did you do for a year? The creature.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: senima56

Until there is "personal responsibility" for the assigned direction, there will be no sense! It is necessary for the leader to feel that he will have to answer seriously! Otherwise, they will shake a finger .... and be transferred from Roscosmos to Russian Railways or somewhere else!

Until there is a dense landing of thieves, no matter who they are, with confiscation, not only from himself, but also from relatives, there will be no order. Putin SHOULD prove his involvement in such actions.

[itarnmag]

If there are no starts, then there are no accidents

[Stakan-m]

What can I say, criticism should be ..
Now, of course, the howl will begin, that Roskosmos is solid thieves and in general you need to disperse them
But it’s better for pensioners to pay money and create roads to Moscow, as it should (for NATO tank columns), the Germans complained))) ..
Well, I'm exaggerating a little, but the devil knows them ..
We will break through the men and to hell not our brother!

[chistyakov.trofim]

So this is your task, Borisov, to organize the organization of work .. Uncle Vova, what will he plow for you? Make a daily work plan with a daily report, make a photo of the working day of all employees. in the most critical places put on-line cameras. In the 70s, I worked in an engineering office, which Lavrenti created and supervised during his lifetime. We had kulmans and steel suitcases and tubes, the deputy of our director-academician was a colonel-security officer, and the chief of OK was a colonel-security officer. Everything was done on time. Moreover, they have not even begun to work on some of the developments today - they are in the cache.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Bar2

This is your documentation on Apollo and F1 disappearing in America, it does not disappear here.

It’s only idiots who think that if there is a drawing, then even a schoolchild can draw from this drawing. It's not the drawings that are lost. Equipment, stands, the launch complex, the production of materials, electronics, of THAT time have been lost; organizing the production of that old stuff is more expensive than organizing the production of a new one, on a modern elemental, scientific basis. Finally, the Energy of the Age is designed to be loaded on the SIDE. Soviet shuttle - Buran. But for the load on top, a radical modification is needed. Hence, the possibility of resuming the production of Energy will be more elusive than the release of Angara.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Victor! Personally, I have never been a member of any party, which I am proud of. You replaced the RCP (b), the CPSU (b) with the late Communist Party Communist Party. With regard to corruption in the CPSU, if you are discussing it so professionally, it means you were allowed into it and familiarized with the facts, you know better, if not, then you are a gossip translator. As for the historical figures of the Leninist era, all my life they have been talking to me about all kinds of things, that I stopped believing in anyone, Putin’s estimates, as I don’t believe yours. I only know that the grandfather of my wife worked at the secretariat in Smolny before the government moved to Moscow. He worked in Leningrad at an arms factory, died in a blockade from starvation and wounds - he shared his ration with his mother-in-law. And I will not let anyone know his memory, and let them not sit down!

There’s nothing to be proud of if you’re not involved. I wasn't a member either, but for a different reason. Lifelong engineering position. And in order not to dilute the number of Party members by a layer, because this is the Party of Workers and Peasants, no one invited me. And my experience in the Komsomol, when on the fifth day of my work in the design bureau of the plant after finishing my military service, I was promoted to deputy. secretary of the plant organization, which led to automatic election as a member of the district Komsomol committee. And my excuses that you all don’t know me, I’ve only been there for 5 days..... didn’t help. And then it started. The chairman of the comrades' court, the trade union committee, and finally the chairman of the council of the labor collective. People's control of the republic. Proxy of the Candidate for Deputy of the Supreme Council of Tajikistan. Participation in the election campaign.....
I've seen and learned enough about all this syphilis. Lies and deceit EVERYWHERE. And the further it goes, the thicker it gets. In such conditions it is impossible to be fundamentally honest. If your crystal honesty would improve everything around you even one iota, then you could be proud. Otherwise, be proud of your indifference. Not great. Not very good.

[slipped]

Meanwhile, next month, in the second half of January, the next Meridian-M, a communications satellite for the Ministry of Defense, will be launched from Plesetsk.

Colonel General Alexander Golovko, Commander of the Space Forces, reported on this.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Snowstorm! Well, it was not always the case that people "endowed with power lived much richer than ordinary people." In the USSR, there was even a party maximum: Dzerzhinsky, for example, lived very modestly, but he fought successfully with homelessness and put whoever was needed against the wall without fail. I am for the fact that officials live NOT much richer than ordinary people, even if they have enough for Turkey, so that they have something to strive for in material terms, then things would go better.

With an almost universal deficit, when money meant almost nothing, the difference in the salary of an ordinary engineer and a plant director was two to three times different. The workers in large numbers received MORE than the engineer. But the BENEFITS were distributed much more shamelessly. At that time I had a salary of 185 rubles. Head of a small department at a factory. Director 350. BUT!
He didn’t touch a finger; the renovation of his apartment was carried out by a team of finishers from the factory. He didn't pay a penny.... The orders were closed by the head of the construction shop. He went on business trips and never stood at the ticket office to buy tickets. I was waiting for the plane in the Deputies' Room. I could have been reprimanded for not being able to buy a plane ticket on the very day when..... And I walked around the airport for days waiting for a delayed plane. There was no place to sit; people with local registration were not allowed into the hotel. There is nothing to go home with. Buses ran only according to airplane schedules. He's on a service Volga.... I couldn't get into any hotel in Moscow, I had to live in private shalmans, and he was met by a service Volga from the ministry and taken to the ministerial hotel.... Should I list further?

[LomKuvaldych]

If the country has been robbed for 20 years, then it is not surprising that the electronics industry has almost died. But for Venezuela, 17 billion dollars is not a pity. And also for Turkey, Egypt, etc.

[Brancodd]

Rogozin responded to Borisov’s words about reducing the launch plan

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/27/12/2019/5e0642e39a7947123d80be42?from=from_main

[tolmachiev51]

Behind every fiasco there is a name!!! The article “sabotage and wrecking” was good - it’s a pity it was cancelled.

[georggy]

Who would doubt that.
What will optimists report on this matter?

[MrFox]

It’s strange that no one here called Borisov an all-killer, are the patriots already pointing this out?

The first thing to do is to close the Ministry of Industry and Trade and give access to military budgets to small enterprises with engineering staff, at least in radio electronics

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Bar2

Quote: ccsr

This is also a propaganda slogan, if only because the military-industrial complex has been revived in the country and the creation of the latest weapons that overtake foreign analogues is a testament to this.

give an example of what has been done in Putin's Russia?

In Putin's Russia they made scoundrels like you. Unfortunately. And democratic rules do not allow you to be hanged from the first telegraph pole.

[Gray-haired]

But before the magic kick from the RF Ministry of Defense, this pretzel Borisov received a black mark for his businessman’s hobbies. Isn’t the water that doesn’t hold in his gope the basis that will become the fog in which he intends to hide on the eve of the grandiose (arrest) of the Ninja? Or do we, in Shoigu’s pack, have no secrets left at all?

[Prisoner]

Such a good little vice-premier, who is in charge of this work, sits and wipes his sniffles. They say they foiled it, we’ll report to the president, but we’ll just create a commission. Didn’t you try to work before the breakdowns, curators?! They need a commission, you understand. For what? To find the switchman and cover your seat? It turns out that for the entire period they had no information about the work being performed, they did not evaluate the activities of those responsible for the areas, and did not analyze the results. They ruined everything, now they will create a commission. Managers, prickly hedgehogs, effective!

[ASASHOKA]

There is less need to devote domestic and world media to all our problems - this time (everyone has problems, they cannot but exist; they have existed before, they will exist in the future - don’t stop big-headed people from searching, making mistakes, creating and achieving - the media needs sensations and ratings, so let them achieve what they want by broadcasting our victories and achievements; well, those who engage in sabotage should receive the full program and without advertising in the media), second - it is necessary to move more quickly towards breakthrough horizons for the industry (talk less, PR less, whine less and invest more in work) and third - we need to stop criticizing and trolling our developments and, first of all, allow domestic know-it-alls to do this (we are ruining ourselves and “as if” we don’t understand this); our technologies are sometimes not only not inferior, but are unattainably ahead of planetary ones!!!

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Bar2

RMT

Have you seen the latest news? Apparently, they didn’t teach you to read in PUTIN’S Russia.
What they did in the USSR has long been in museums due to the expiration of the warranty period, and twice already. So, what flies is that the design was either revised (modified) many times, and the warranty for use was returned, or it was manufactured again. . You understand military equipment like a donkey knows oranges. The hardware developed in the USSR cannot be reproduced due to the impossibility of producing components, materials, or recreating instruments and stands.

[ccsr]

Quote: Victor March 47

What they did in the USSR has long been in museums due to the expiration of the warranty period, and twice already.

Fully agree with your conclusion.

Quote: Victor March 47

The hardware developed in the USSR cannot be reproduced due to the impossibility of producing components, materials, or recreating instruments and stands.

But here you are wrong - in the USSR it was envisaged for the war period to have a complete set of design and technological documentation in archival storage, and these periods were at least a couple of decades, and even after the products were removed from service they could be preserved. I don’t think that our smart engineers working in the design bureau and as technologists are not able to study and adjust the equipment for modern production, what was done in the USSR and Russia in the 80-90s of the last century, especially in single quantities or small series. Well, if in our country the planes of the Great Patriotic War are restored in makeshift conditions, and they fly, then the equipment of a later period will even be able to be reproduced if the need arises.

[Jurkovs]

The world is ruled by gray cardinals. Rogozin will leave and the Roscosmos Technical Council, headed by the unsinkable Koptev, will remain again.

[Igor -2019-7-36]

Work on the formation and
updating the satellite space constellation - not
a private shop, but a government assignment!
And there must be state demand!
Our "heroes and leaders"
You need to know by name!!!

[Doctor]

Each failure in work has its own name and surname, and why do they find out about such major failures when everything has already happened, and in the process there is no control or suppression. This is not theft and negligence, what is happening in our space, this is obvious sabotage and you need to react accordingly.

[bsk_una]

Putin doesn’t punish, but he remembers everything! Another time - you can do everything - steal, be mediocre, do nothing - let's remember - that's all!

[Dynamic systems]

I remember a year ago or more, they also “angiously” reported about non-compliance with May and military orders, decrees, persuasion, mantras and prayers.... So what? Where are the landings? If the head is dead, so is the fish.