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Interview in Defense24: Russian commanders even think differently than commanders in NATO

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A large interview was published in the Polish media by Defense24 with representatives of the American company NGW Center Philippe Petersen and Greg Melcher (both were directly related to the army /the fleet USA). The company is engaged in the creation of strategic simulations related to the development of counteraction to military threats.


The company collects various kinds of data, including topographic data, to create simulations that allow training, including military personnel, for operations. The company itself is more positioning itself as the creator of computer games. However, these “games” are often used in practical training. For example, one group of players “plays” for NATO, the other - for the enemy, which Russia most often stands for. The so-called "blue" and "red".

The main topic for the interview was chosen as follows: “What is the situation in Central and Eastern Europe in the context of the Russian threat?”

Philip Petersen said that the company is now collecting data about the area:

We pay attention to every detail, we photograph everything: forests, swamps, bridges - objects that, to one degree or another, can complicate the operational maneuver of the troops.

According to a company representative, all this data is included in the simulation, which resembles a regular computer game. Petersen notes that computer simulations have a huge advantage over a regular card.

From the material:

Russians, as a rule, go everywhere, even where theoretically this is impossible. Thus, they can, for example, lose a lot of armored vehicles when crossing difficult terrain, but some of it will probably pass anyway. Because a barrier is only a barrier if it is not covered by fire or by forces that can open this fire. It is important to understand that Russian commanders even think differently (than NATO commanders). This is an opinion that should be understood by NATO, so that our commanders are not too confident in themselves and do not think that the enemy is "stupid" because he has a different approach to the problem. Our goal is to show that the Russian approach to the war is very complex. Contemporary Russian martial art is based on Soviet and earlier experience - from the time of the tsarist army.

In the interview, the phrase was said that Eastern Europe is "not the eastern flank of NATO, this is the front."


It came to the conclusion that Russia "applies the new generation war techniques." According to representatives of the said company, “Moscow uses 9 elements against liberal democracies, including cybernetic, informational methods, the method of intimidation, the demonstration of military force, bribery, secret operations, etc.

From the material:

I must admit that the Russians act like chess players: they do not conduct a hybrid war all the time, but use its methods at the moment when they consider them the best solution.

Philip Petersen claims that he once spoke with Army General Mahmut Gareyev (recently passed away). The author notes that during this conversation he understood some aspects of “Russian military thought, which allows one to achieve an intellectual advantage”.
Photos used:
Official website of the Far Eastern VOKU, official website of the Cherepovets VVIUR
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  1. cniza
    cniza 27 December 2019 09: 14
    +28
    Philip Petersen claims that he once spoke with Army General Mahmut Gareyev (recently passed away). The author notes that during this conversation he understood some aspects of “Russian military thought, which allows one to achieve an intellectual advantage”.


    Philip, you are smart, but you only saw the tip of the iceberg ...
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 27 December 2019 09: 20
      +34
      Quote: cniza
      Philip, you are smart

      Yes, there are no brains there, since it declares this:
      “Moscow uses 9 elements against liberal democracies, including cybernetic, informational methods, intimidation method, demonstration of military force, bribery, covert operations and more


      He listed exactly what the West itself does and in which Russia can never keep up with them, for it decent . Somewhere and unnecessarily .......
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 27 December 2019 09: 27
        +15
        This Petersen, probably, did not watch "DMB". He had an insight that the Russian military did not think the same way as others. wassat Put this monster in the wax museum!
        1. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 27 December 2019 09: 38
          +10
          Quote: bessmertniy
          This Petersen, probably, did not watch "DMB". He had an insight that the Russian military did not think the same way as others. wassat Put this monster in the wax museum!

          Another grief connoisseur of the Russian soul! fool How many centuries have passed, well, at least from the transition A.V. Suvorov through the Alps, and historical memory does not at all come to this flock of Eurogamadrils! request Clinic!
          1. boss
            boss 27 December 2019 10: 57
            +8
            Suvorov's crossing of the Alps is an extremely unfortunate example to illustrate the 'Russian soul' and a tragedy for the Russian army.
            when I read how many soldiers died on this march, what is the reason for such a hasty transition and by what means it was carried out, I am inclined to believe that it would not have been better if it had not been at all.
            But the assault on the impregnable Ishmael, where more Turks died than Russians, this is an example of the Russian soul - combining courage and the ability to make the impossible possible
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 27 December 2019 12: 02
              +31
              Quote: patron
              Suvorov's crossing of the Alps is an extremely unfortunate example to illustrate the 'Russian soul' and a tragedy for the Russian army.
              when I read how many soldiers died on this march, what is the reason for such a hasty transition and by what means it was carried out, I am inclined to believe that it would not have been better if it had not been at all.
              But the assault on the impregnable Ishmael, where more Turks died than Russians, this is an example of the Russian soul - combining courage and the ability to make the impossible possible

              Why go so far if quite recently only one "attack on Pristina" confused them, and the cultural withdrawal of Crimea and the sudden appearance of a decent grouping of the Defense Ministry and the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria drove them into a stupor. The impeccable planning and execution of these operations, caught "between the eyes" of their special services and intelligence, naturally disrupts the harmonious train of their thoughts and confirms the truth - Russia is terrible with improvisation.
              1. boss
                boss 28 December 2019 15: 03
                +6
                I agree 100500!
                but this is hardly improvisation, rather brilliant military operations, designed and executed in a short time.
                Crimean spring 2014 is fantastic for its effectiveness and bloodless operation, but under the control of the Russian Armed Forces.
                I heard about the airdrome in pristina that the Russian conscript got in the way of the abrams and they didn’t pass, I don’t know, maybe a bike, I don’t know the name of a soldier.
                albeit not quite so, but how many of ours were there, 200-300-400 in the center of the Balkans, in the reach of an aircraft carrier conducting a bombardment.
            2. karabass
              karabass 27 December 2019 12: 09
              -18
              When the soldiers rebelled in this tragic campaign, only the Great Suvorov was able to stop the riot, kneeling before the soldiers
            3. tatarin1972
              tatarin1972 28 December 2019 10: 28
              +7
              Suvorov and his army carried out the order, the "allies" abandoned, left without supplies, because so much Russian blood was shed. Yes, and our mentality is different, they have: "Do it or die!", We have: "Die, but do it!" Death does not exempt one from the task.
              1. boss
                boss 28 December 2019 15: 06
                0
                I completely agree that this transition was a manifestation of mass heroism, but I think that as an example of a brilliant operation, there is absolutely no
            4. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 28 December 2019 16: 57
              +5
              Suvorov crossing the Alps, the result of betrayal of the Austrians. Learn at least a little bit of history. And they betrayed that Napoleon’s hands destroy the Russian army. And she took and was not destroyed. What a shame, from the point of view of the Allies.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 27 December 2019 09: 54
          +1
          Quote: bessmertniy
          This Petersen, probably, did not watch "DMB". He had an insight that the Russian military did not think the same way as others. wassat Put this monster in the wax museum!

          Everything is correct, how can I explain to such Peterson that there is a gopher !!! although it is not visible there, it may not be at all, in fact wassat
          1. cniza
            cniza 27 December 2019 15: 14
            +6
            I think his roof will go down if you try to explain it to him. hi
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 27 December 2019 17: 58
              +1
              An option that he himself will move away, explaining to all the dull, obvious to any of our people!
              1. cniza
                cniza 27 December 2019 18: 58
                +5
                This is exactly how I tried to explain to one Spaniard what the "old new year" is ... laughing
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 27 December 2019 19: 55
                  +2
                  If the "client" is not a drinker, there is no need to torture yourself or him in vain!
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 27 December 2019 20: 57
                    +4
                    He is a drinker, but translating this combination is not possible ... laughing
        3. Captain45
          Captain45 27 December 2019 13: 30
          +1
          Quote: bessmertniy
          This Petersen, probably, did not watch "DMB". His inspiration came that the Russian military did not think the same way as others.

          They not only think differently, they (the Russian military) also speak very differently, sharper and shorter, but for this it is necessary to be born Russian, to read Chekhov and Dostoevsky will not be enough. laughing
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 09: 47
        -4
        Quote: Olgovich
        cybernetic, informational methods, intimidation method, demonstration of military force, bribery, covert operations, etc.


        He listed exactly what the West itself does and in which Russia can never keep up with them, for it is decent. Somewhere and unnecessarily
        Olga to read, so Russia is not able to do anything at all, that's for sure, the anti-Soviet is always Russophobe.
        1. Squelcher
          Squelcher 27 December 2019 11: 56
          +15
          An ardent enemy of the Soviets, Denikin, on his own money, collected a medicine car and sent it through the allies to the Red Army, which surprised Stalin a lot.
          An ardent supporter of the Bolsheviks, the communist Vlasov began to cooperate with the Nazis, but the former headquarters captain Karbyshev preferred death to betrayal.
          1. viktorR
            viktorR 27 December 2019 12: 49
            +1
            It smacks of French bun from your comments :). Let us then recall Krasnov with Manerheim and Shkuro. Look carefully, otherwise it’ll be soothing :).
            1. Finn
              Finn 27 December 2019 14: 12
              -9
              Mannerheim then from what side, the Finnish Marshal, who served a little Catherine?
              1. viktorR
                viktorR 27 December 2019 15: 06
                +4
                I managed to serve Catherine and Hitler, the highlander is straight :)
                1. Finn
                  Finn 28 December 2019 01: 37
                  -3
                  And what is he Russian? He was already in Finnish was the commander in chief of the Finnish troops. Before the war with the Nazis, he fought with the Red Army.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 28 December 2019 01: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: Finn
                    He was already in Finnish was the commander in chief of the Finnish troops. Before the war with the Nazis, he fought with the Red Army.

                    And during the war with the Nazis fought with the Red Army. And from what side is Catherine here?
                    1. Finn
                      Finn 28 December 2019 13: 13
                      -4
                      I forgot who was on the throne then. Not only did the Finnish nationally organize the defense and the wild losses of the Red Army, the Finnish nationalists are still proud, Duck still held the blockade of Leningrad, the Finns from the north. Fights often happen in Finnish bars about this.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 28 December 2019 13: 17
                        +3
                        Quote: Finn
                        Duck still held the blockade of Leningrad Finns from the north.

                        Well, there’s nothing to be proud of.
                      2. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 28 December 2019 17: 03
                        +1
                        Let them be proud. They will also read the results of the 1939-1940 war. Finland has fulfilled ALL the requirements of the USSR. Yes, but the war "won"! And she fulfilled the requirements. It's a strange victory, just a win, in Finnish. And how they surrendered the country in 1944, let them also remember. Useful for raising the Finnish spirit. Especially national.
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 28 December 2019 18: 35
                        -1
                        Quote: AKuzenka
                        Yes, but the war "won"! And she fulfilled the requirements. It's a strange victory, just a win, in Finnish.

                        Linna Väine, "The Unknown Soldier":
                        Finland's winter war is over; it was the best of all the hitherto wars, because both sides won in it. The victory of the Finns was smaller, because they had to give up something from their territory and accordingly move beyond the new border that arose in this way.
                    2. Akuzenka
                      Akuzenka 28 December 2019 16: 59
                      +1
                      It just seems so to him. Probably the grass is clogged or the head is formatted in the right direction.
              2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
                Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 27 December 2019 22: 49
                +1
                Learn the story, sir. Which Catherine? Nicholas the second! And he became Finnish after being a general of the Russian army!
                1. Finn
                  Finn 28 December 2019 02: 39
                  -3
                  Confused, and yes, the key phrase was, and not a Russian officer betrayed Russia.
            2. Squelcher
              Squelcher 27 December 2019 15: 16
              +4
              To be honest, I am equally disgusting as ardent champions of liberalism as the last plebeians worshiping the West, and ardent champions of the world revolution worshiping mummies and not having read even a fraction of the writings that he left. In their stupid rage, they are ready to burn everyone and everything without thinking about the consequences and sacrifices of innocent people. With manic stubbornness, trampling in the mud the successes and achievements of the Russian people in different political and historical eras, in order to justify their failures, and to prove the "truth" of their convictions.
              1. viktorR
                viktorR 27 December 2019 15: 40
                0
                Unfortunately, I could put you only one plus! good
              2. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 16: 47
                -1
                Have you tried to get captcha, aren't you a bot?
                1. viktorR
                  viktorR 28 December 2019 15: 29
                  0
                  Have you tried to get captcha, aren't you a bot?
                  And you :)?
              3. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 28 December 2019 17: 06
                +1
                Now there are many "revolutionaries", both among the uryashek and among the liberoids. Their ideology is the same - destruction! You can worship anything as long as it is good for the country and people. And it was CREATIVE. And those named by you are funded from the same wallet and their purpose is the same, despite completely different words.
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 16: 46
            +7
            Quote: Squelcher
            An ardent enemy of the councils Denikin

            "With the Nazis coming to power in Germany, he condemned Hitler's policies. .... advocated the need to support the Red Army against any foreign aggressor, with the subsequent awakening of the Russian spirit in the ranks of this army, which, according to the general, should overthrow Bolshevism in Russia and at the same time keep the army itself from Russia " Denikin considered the system in Russia an internal affair of Russia and the people of Russia, in contrast to the Cossacks Shkuro, Krasnov and others you forgot.
            Quote: Squelcher
            An ardent supporter of the Bolsheviks, the Communist Vlasov
            It looks like the same ardent supporter of the Bolsheviks as the "communists" Yeltsin, Yakovlev and Shevardnadze, is not it?
            Quote: Squelcher
            former captain Karbyshev preferred death to betrayal.

            Like many thousands of Red Army commanders who were not in the tsarist army.
            1. Squelcher
              Squelcher 28 December 2019 01: 39
              -3
              Scum type skin, Krasnova, I did not forget and you have not forgotten a case of scum type hedgehog, Zinoviev, Ulyanov and others?
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 04: 12
                +1
                Quote: Squelcher
                Scum type of skin, Krasnova, I did not forget
                Until you poked their nose in them, you did not remember.
                Quote: Squelcher
                scum like Yezhov, Zinoviev, Ulyanov
                Strange, Trotsky, an ardent preacher of the world revolution, was not mentioned, with which Ilyich fought so.
                Quote: Squelcher
                With manic persistence trampling the successes and achievements of the Russian people into the mud of different political and historical eras
                While trampling the dirt of the Soviet civilizational breakthrough from you and people like you, you can only see. Double-mindedness, anger and silence about uncomfortable facts are straight from your comments.
                1. Squelcher
                  Squelcher 28 December 2019 05: 00
                  -3
                  Unlike the adherents of the mummy, in tsarist, Soviet and modern Russia I take into account and remember both good and bad without dividing political and historical eras. I do not burn with desire and despise those who again, in the name of "universal" good, are ready to pour blood over the country. Whether he is a liberal fawning at the West - a traitor, or a ghoul waving the flag of the USSR. The White movement, like the Red Terror, are up to their neck in their shit with their hands up to the elbows in the people's blood.
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 05: 04
                    +2
                    In general, an anti-Soviet Russophobe, disguised as a patriot.
                    1. Squelcher
                      Squelcher 28 December 2019 05: 13
                      -2
                      Stick the label, go to the person, the brains are not enough to convince the interlocutor, when the truth is his eyes are blinded.
                      Here is Pavka Korchagin, did not whine, did not whine, built a bright future ....
                      1. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 05: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        Unlike adherents of the mummy

                        Quote: Squelcher
                        those who, again, in the name of "universal" good, are ready to pour blood over the country

                        Quote: Squelcher
                        Stick the label, go to the person
                        Wow, no shortcuts, and no blindness ever rushing.
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        brains are not enough to convince the interlocutor
                        Are you an interlocutor?
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Scum type of skin, Krasnova, I did not forget
                        Until you poked their nose in them, you did not remember.
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        scum like Yezhov, Zinoviev, Ulyanov
                        Strange, Trotsky, an ardent preacher of the world revolution, was not mentioned, with which Ilyich fought so.
                        Why didn’t you answer this, maybe because a thinking, bright and unashored interlocutor? Or rather, an anti-Soviet Russophobe, dressing up in the clothes of a patriot, having learned a couple of training manuals, a la Olgych.
                      2. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 05: 42
                        -4
                        Oh, deeply excuse me generously, I didn’t know that you ranked yourself as an adherent of the mummy, please be kind enough to once again read the complete works of your ideological mastermind, otherwise it’s just somehow uninteresting to me to read its rather voluminous part — not all of course, but ideological admirers can’t do it. They just whine that everything in the union was cheap, you ask how many educations people received ?, I worked as a turner, why did they give me cheap beer and vodka, the school and the state monitored children, go only to boring party events.
                      3. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 05: 46
                        0
                        What is it, why apologize, is it possible to be offended by the Russophobic half-work? After all, he is not able to answer more or less reasonable questions, like a parrot is about, no one is offended by a parrot, even if he sends mother
                      4. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 05: 56
                        -3
                        Yes, going to discuss at work "Materialism and Empirio-criticism" of Lenin's work with you will not work, all the best to you.
                      5. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 05: 59
                        +1
                        Indeed, what to "discuss" with a semi-literate half-bot-. Rusophobe
                      6. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 06: 05
                        -3
                        You have used the word Russophobe already 5 times, and which of us is a parrot? Once again, all the best to you, do not choke on your poison.
                      7. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 06: 13
                        0
                        And what to do, the diagnosis is not described in different words.
                      8. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 06: 46
                        -2
                        Unlike you, I am against the destruction of the Russian people in the next bloody revolution and the massacre of civil war.
                        Do not complain and do not regret, a true communist is ruthless towards himself and the enemy, doesn’t read bluntly and remembers Lenin’s main works, is ready to defend his point of view with arguments and proofs rather than stupid labels and insults, or simply shoots the enemy and his small children and family. You are ready and are doing it to fill the country with blood for the sake of the common good and the world revolution, the nationality and the Russian people are only material.
                        Well, who know Russophobe?
                      9. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 06: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        Unlike you, I am against the destruction of the Russian people in the next bloody revolution and the massacre of civil war.
                        They deduced this on the basis of their own stamps, they themselves exposed, gurgled something extremely stupid, and ascribe to others. Oh yes, you also justify the Natsiks, because they remembered about Krasnov and Shkuro only when they poked you with this nose. So about to fill the country with blood, this is only for you. Personally, I did not write anything about the world revolution or about the bloodshed. There is no answer about Trotsky either.
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        You are ready and are doing to fill the country with blood for the sake of the common good and the world revolution, the nationality and the Russian people are only material
                      10. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 08: 30
                        -2
                        Sorry with the Nazis, the Bolsheviks kissed in a hickey until Stalin cleaned up, Trotsky's ideological ally, Lenin is ashamed not to know the history of his country, especially if you are positioning yourself with an idolater of the mummy.
                      11. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 08: 47
                        -3
                        1922 The novice Nazis began to receive money from the USSR, and in return they placed a red star on the swastika, which they later removed at the request of the Soviet side.
                      12. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 08: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        The novice Nazis began to receive money from the USSR, and in return placed a red star on the swastika, which they later removed at the request of the Soviet side.
                        At least some kind of confirmation lead to fiction?
                      13. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 09: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        Trotsky's ideological ally, Lenin is ashamed not to know the history of his country

                        They differed in significant factional fluctuations, as a result of which the political platforms of Lenin and Trotsky did not always coincide. At the Second Congress of the RSDLP, Trotsky supported Lenin’s platform on the assimilation of Jews and the renunciation of the autonomy of the Jewish Bund within social democracy. However, during his second emigration, Trotsky did not support the Leninist policy of separating the Bolshevik fraction from the RSDLP; in 1911-1912, both politicians actually exchanged mutual abuse. In the period 1917-1921, Lenin and Trotsky came to the conclusion that their views coincided at that moment and formed a bloc in which relations, in the words of the personal secretary of Stalin B. Bazhanov, were ideal. During the revolution and the Civil War, Lenin and Trotsky actually became the first persons of the state. The first serious disagreements occurred during the discussion about the unions of 1920-1921 Wiki
                        A history teacher was found.
                      14. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 10: 25
                        -2
                        And without a wiki? In your own words and knowledge, you are our ideological.
                      15. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 10: 53
                        +2
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        1922 The novice Nazis began to receive money from the USSR, and in return they placed a red star on the swastika, which they later removed at the request of the Soviet side.

                        Quote: Squelcher
                        And without a wiki? In your own words and knowledge, you are our ideological.
                        Have you ever with Vicki, even without Vicki this stupid nonsense can you give confirmation?
                      16. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 15: 53
                        -3
                        Whether you are frantic, ours, as my commander said, a captain of the 2nd rank, if the current is invisible does not mean that it is not there, you will put the elda in the socket and you will find out.
                        To get started, read the speech of June 20, 1923 by a member of the Presidium of the ECCI, K. B. Radek, and the reaction of the leaders of the Bolsheviks to a kiss in a hickey with the Nazis.
                        You don’t even know, or you are carefully concealing the stinking truth that for some time the Bolsheviks, both Russian and German, were in the best of relations with the Nazis of Hitler. Relations broke after 1923, when both the communist putsch and the Hitlerite failed in Germany (which is curious, because of some mysterious coincidence, they burst on the same day).
                      17. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 15: 57
                        +1
                        How powerful diarrheaflow
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        1922 The novice Nazis began to receive money from the USSR, and in return they placed a red star on the swastika, which they later removed at the request of the Soviet side.
                        There will be no confirmation. One vomit Russophobic.
                      18. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 28 December 2019 16: 06
                        -3
                        Do not be lazy to eat, tolerate dessert will go after the main dish. Swallow the truth I understand it's nice to have propaganda from films that some Bolsheviks are only good. But oh, how unpleasant.
                      19. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 18: 10
                        +1
                        Just a set of phrases, loosely connected. Neither arguments nor links squalor continuous
                        Quote: Squelcher
                        1922 The novice Nazis began to receive money from the USSR, and in return they placed a red star on the swastika, which they later removed at the request of the Soviet side.
                        As there is no confirmation, it will not be. Chew your vomit in a circle.
                      20. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 29 December 2019 01: 16
                        -4
                        Laziness and dementia, and an absolute desire not to know and not study their history, with such followers, the mummy's ideas are simply "doomed" to success.
    2. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 27 December 2019 09: 27
      +15
      Russian commanders even think differently than commanders in NATO

      For the Anglo-Saxons, the very idea that someone can think differently from them is already revolutionary, and even blasphemous.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 27 December 2019 09: 31
        +1
        Not revolutionary, but extremely dangerous, subject to destruction.
        The basis is understandable religion. How many civilizations have they destroyed in the last 500 years.
        1. Siberia 75
          Siberia 75 27 December 2019 09: 44
          +5
          Quote: Mestny
          The basis is understandable religion.

          Anything but religion. When necessary, the Anglo-Saxons get along well with Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, Hinduism and any sects.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 27 December 2019 10: 12
            +4
            That's it. When it is necessary.
            That is, they allow themselves this choice, it is permissible for them - get along for the time being, or destroy, of course, first repainting the unclean, savages without souls (that is, nonhumans) that are destroyed in children, and so on.
            It is understandable. It’s just not possible to make a person mass kill. It is necessary to translate this action into a noble, necessary, and, on the basis, charitable one.
            Now they are dehumanizing us because we are "not like that." Or rather, because they no longer need us.
            As soon as the process reaches the required level, they will immediately begin. And none of our strength will stop them. They will be sure that we are cowardly savages, threatening civilization.
            Well, in general, nothing has changed since Hitler.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 27 December 2019 11: 30
              +1
              "They will be sure that we are cowardly savages who threaten civilization." ////
              ----
              What thoughts do you have in your head? you are simply amazed ... recourse
              And why do you transfer these own thoughts to other countries and other people? sad
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 27 December 2019 10: 23
            +5
            In our microsecond time (at hyperspeed!) It is ridiculous to even think about religion in relation to war, especially since even weapons are used without praying, but at a certain point in time, there will be no time to cross (for example, on the deployment of Yars or Sarmat) - "If you do not have time, they will have time for you!"
            Moreover, for those who know at least a little bit who the Bilderbergers are and what they do at their gatherings in the Alps, it is clear that the actor "religion" is completely absent in geopolitics, there are the actors "expediency", "significance "," materiality "and" acceptable loss ".
            1. boss
              boss 27 December 2019 11: 03
              +1
              Yeah, you talk about the irrelevance of religion in the causes and methods of war to the Ishilovites in the Middle East, Africa and Asia.
              a lecture about hyperspeed and yars, for those who are in a jihadmobile for a fresh look at religion!
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 27 December 2019 11: 23
                0
                Do you think they will talk with you on such theses?
                Never!
            2. Mestny
              Mestny 27 December 2019 11: 05
              +5
              Religion still lies at the root of elementary education from early childhood. The concepts laid down by the ancestors are good and bad, transmitted later to parents.
              1. Slavutich
                Slavutich 27 December 2019 11: 20
                0
                Definitely so, hence the expediency comes from
          3. orionvitt
            orionvitt 27 December 2019 10: 43
            +1
            Quote: Siberia 75
            When necessary, the Anglo-Saxons get along well with Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, Hinduism and any sects.

            They do not get along, but try to take everything under their control. What they do great.
            1. Siberia 75
              Siberia 75 27 December 2019 10: 52
              +1
              Quote: orionvitt
              They do not get along, but try to take everything under their control.

              I hope that this can be said in the past tense. Although while the Anglo-Saxons finally give up their positions, they will have time to do a lot of evil.
            2. tatarin1972
              tatarin1972 28 December 2019 10: 38
              0
              Quote: orionvitt
              Quote: Siberia 75
              When necessary, the Anglo-Saxons get along well with Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, Hinduism and any sects.

              They do not get along, but try to take everything under their control. What they do great.

              Therefore, I argue that it is shortsighted to consider a country as an unchanging ally or eternal enemy of England. We have no permanent allies, we have no eternal enemies. Only our interests are unchanging and eternal, and our duty is to follow them. - Speech in the House of Commons March 1, 1848


              Therefore I say that it is a narrow policy to suppose that this country or that is to be marked out as the eternal ally or the perpetual enemy of England. We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.- Lord Henry John Palmerston.
          4. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 27 December 2019 10: 58
            +3
            Quote: Siberia 75
            Quote: Mestny
            The basis is understandable religion.

            Anything but religion. When necessary, the Anglo-Saxons get along well with Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, Hinduism and any sects.

            Not religion, but worldview.
            But the fact that Orthodoxy was not on the list is not an accident.
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 27 December 2019 11: 33
              +3
              Good day, Alexander. I completely agree with you, we have a different concept of values. In the United Nations Commission on the Matter, they say do it or die. We die, but do it. During WWII, the Japanese despised the British and mattresses for surrendering (among the Saxons, not considered a shame).
          5. hydrox
            hydrox 27 December 2019 11: 28
            0
            They never got along!
            Subjugated, destroyed carriers, shared, but ALWAYS USED (this maxim appeared along with the first religion)
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 27 December 2019 09: 55
        +1
        Quote: Siberia 75
        For Anglo-Saxons, the very idea that someone can think differently than they do,

        It dawned on them for a very long time that anyone besides them could even THINK!
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 27 December 2019 10: 26
          +4
          By the way, yes.
          Representatives of "pagan" cultures were not considered human. For example, the indigenous population of both Americas, or Africa.
          At the same time, the authors and performers of the genocide were extremely religious, and for example, the Americans remain so now.
          How is it - "God is with us"?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 December 2019 10: 31
            0
            Quote: Mestny
            At the same time, the authors and performers of the genocide were extremely religious, and for example, the Americans remain so now.
            How is it - "God is with us"?

            The keyword WAS!
            Believe me, now they have and only BAX with them! All religiosity is supported by immigrants from Latin America, immigrants and others.
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 27 December 2019 11: 03
              0
              But what about a huge number of different sects, going to church on Sundays and so on?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 27 December 2019 11: 11
                0
                Quote: Mestny
                But what about a huge number of different sects, going to church on Sundays and so on?

                And check the statistics, how it was and how it became .... did not come up, just met just such statements and statistics THEIR SAME. This is confirmed.
                There is no talk about sects, there is religion, serious, there is very little touch to talk about it.
          2. toha124
            toha124 27 December 2019 14: 22
            +1
            Which, by the way, unexpectedly makes the Anglo-Saxons related to the exterminated aborigines. It is no secret that for a huge number of primitive tribes (if not for the majority) the self-name of a tribe or people means simply "people". And strangers are not people. All this is buried deep in the human psyche. The question is who has outlived it and who has not. Representatives of our culture have become obsolete. The Anglo-Saxons, apparently not.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 27 December 2019 10: 27
          0
          And that's all, the Anglo-Saxons as a monopolistically significant force can be attributed (in vain the old woman decided to engage in Brexit, did not foresee such significant loss of influence!) lol
      3. meandr51
        meandr51 27 December 2019 12: 45
        +1
        They are afraid that they will not be able to find arguments, playing not according to their own rules. Therefore, they are afraid of civilizations that can develop their own.
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 27 December 2019 09: 51
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      Philip, you are smart, but you only saw the tip of the iceberg ...

      soldier They will never realize that the main motto for our army is NOBODY EXCEPT US !!! - and it doesn’t matter what kind of troops it is. This motto is followed by EVERYTHING!
      And all their notions, about hybridization and other crap, are from ... envy and stupidity, along the way.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 27 December 2019 10: 38
        +3
        Interview in Defense24: Russian commanders even think differently than commanders in NATO
        I’ll probably betray a secret ... but you still won’t succeed .: ours from birth think obscenely. wink
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 27 December 2019 10: 41
          +2
          Quote: Aerodrome
          ours from birth think obscenities.

          But shaw, a very concise and intelligible language ... besides everyone knows it!
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 27 December 2019 14: 52
      0
      Quote: cniza
      Philip, you are smart, but you only saw the tip of the iceberg ...

      Not even the crown ... Western warriors do not understand that in the event of a war with us, the elderly and children and women will become soldiers.
      Their women, who scream at every corner that they are strong and independent, would show this video and say, "Here are strong women."

      As for the war with us, these Western talkers do not at all listen to those who were much smarter than they were in the past. For example, Bismarck, who said clearly
      “Even the most successful outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of Russia, which rests on the millions of Russian believers in the Greek denomination. The latter, even if they are separated by international treaties, will reunite with each other as quickly as they find their way to each other by disconnected mercury droplets.

      And here is another statement of his ..
      Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.
  2. Private-K
    Private-K 27 December 2019 09: 16
    +8
    In general, Philip Petersen and Greg Melcher understood only that they understood nothing about the Russian military style, except that he was "different" (tm).

    Among the Americans, of course, there were good specialists on the Soviet army who knew and understood it well. But, I suspect that no one listens to those for a long time. And among the American military, a false pathos of superiority has long triumphed. Such superiority, in which the question "what is the enemy?" and not put - "anyway we will demolish".
    Only for the last couple of years have taken care ...
  3. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 27 December 2019 09: 22
    +4
    One I can’t understand how it is
    ... Moscow uses 9 elements against liberal democracies ....
    Bees versus honey? They believe that we have communism or what? I heard that we have the main liberal - the most important. In the West, with some motivation, I strained some kind.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 27 December 2019 10: 33
      +1
      If you think carefully about the topic: systemic liberals versus the opposition (syslibs vs opposists), you will certainly understand whose interests Putin expresses and why he is so strong with his security forces and state concerns, for which he is constantly pecking by the Opps ...
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc 27 December 2019 09: 27
    +3
    Russians, as a rule, go everywhere, even where theoretically this is impossible. Thus, they can, for example, lose a lot of armored vehicles when crossing difficult terrain,

    Well, they don’t understand.
    Russians also think and prepare to force such barriers.
    Therefore, the fabrication of the loss of a large number of equipment does not hold water.
    Well, that’s not bad.
    An overly confident adversary is a vulnerable adversary.
    Alexander Vasilievich for a long time and clearly demonstrated in the Alps a similar situation to the whole world.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 27 December 2019 10: 46
      -1
      There is only one problem here: you can enter the territory of Russia NATE only non-massively through Fink or through Ukraine, other directions are logistically unacceptable. And Belarus should be made the island of PRO-air defense with 3-5 URs, and the Poland-Romania air route will also be closed.
    2. boss
      boss 27 December 2019 11: 09
      -2
      Here is just an example of a transition through the Alps, as an example of a prepared transition, does not withstand any criticism.
      what are the losses there, as a percentage of the total number of people who switched, do not remind?
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      2. Slavutich
        Slavutich 27 December 2019 11: 32
        +2
        what are the losses there, as a percentage of the total number of people who switched, do not remind?

        And the losses of the same French, who fought against Suvorov?
        War is not football or a movie about war, the question is not about losses, but about their expediency, losses in war are inevitable.
        The French in World War II decided to surrender, there seemed to be few losses, but a big loss - the collapse of the colonial empire that fed France, the USSR preferred to fight - became the leading "empire" in the twentieth century: here is the answer for losses.
      3. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 27 December 2019 11: 34
        +2
        Quote: patron
        Here is just an example of a transition through the Alps, as an example of a prepared transition, does not withstand any criticism.

        He was not prepared.
        Quote: patron
        what are the losses there, as a percentage of the total number of people who switched, do not remind?

        Compare with the losses of Hannibal.
  5. Bykov.
    Bykov. 27 December 2019 09: 33
    +6
    Russian commanders even think differently than commanders in NATO

    Head or what?
  6. Esaul
    Esaul 27 December 2019 09: 39
    +3
    It should be correct: "Russian commanders think, unlike commanders in NATO"
    1. icant007
      icant007 27 December 2019 10: 11
      +2
      The main thing here is that this thinking does not turn into grief from the mind)

      Sometimes we think too much.

      The strength of the West is that they act according to the instructions, according to the pattern. This gives them an organizational advantage.

      And we don’t like the pattern, so often at the first stage of wars we catch cuffs.
      Then we turn on the brain, improve the organization, add our living Russian mind to the organization, and a quick ride begins after a long harness)
  7. Andrea
    Andrea 27 December 2019 09: 50
    +3
    A strange ending ... in fact, in order to have an intellectual advantage, simply, you need to think to be able to.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 27 December 2019 10: 56
      0
      Nothing strange :: You correctly put it :: we are so strong that the basis of our victories is the ability to think, and the instructions and charters are the same in all the armies of the world ... laughing
      1. Slavutich
        Slavutich 27 December 2019 11: 37
        +1
        instructions and charters - they are the same in all armies of the world ..

        It may be so, but who applies the charter, that’s the question, too often in the place of action according to the charter, they act haphazardly, hence many problems
        but besides victories - we have defeats, what lies at their core?
        not the ability to think?
  8. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 27 December 2019 09: 58
    +3
    to create simulations that allow you to prepare, including military personnel for operations.

    They open getting ready for war with us.
    No one is already hiding that there will be a war.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 December 2019 10: 41
      -2
      Quote: MainBeam
      to create simulations that allow you to prepare, including military personnel for operations.

      They open getting ready for war with us.
      No one is already hiding that there will be a war.

      but not soon ...
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 27 December 2019 10: 53
      0
      So we are preparing for war :: Syria - a great training ground!
      Still AUG to anchor for complete happiness! laughing
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 27 December 2019 12: 45
        +2
        Someone thought that Russia needed its aircraft carrier in Tartus?
        Never!
        We need an American (or better two!), So that the Yuss would like to bomb on Khmeimim or Tartus.
        And also 5 pieces of Burkov (you can Ticonderoga) - and so that they stomp on us ...
        After that, NEVER and NO AUG will appear closer than 3 tyk. from the location of our aircraft.
        I hope everyone understands that these 2 AUGs will be erased from the water surface? laughing
      2. cradle
        cradle 28 December 2019 02: 54
        0
        what for? So that he was fucked right away?
    3. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 27 December 2019 11: 20
      +2
      Why do you exaggerate? Any military are preparing for war, and do it by their own methods. They are required to do this.
      The main thing is not to relax. When the military relaxes, it's worse.
    4. figwam
      figwam 27 December 2019 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: MainBeam
      They are openly preparing for war with us.

      Every spring is a risk of hostilities.
    5. Whisper
      Whisper 28 December 2019 00: 19
      0
      Someone is openly preparing for war. These are different things. There will be no big war. It is clear to everyone that it is unpromising. But a small war, with the goal of our complete isolation, is a reality. Russia cannot be defeated on its territory, either then or now. It is a fact. There are no fools sitting there.
      1. Good wise
        Good wise 28 December 2019 18: 21
        +1
        There will be no war, do not piss.
        The big one is meaningless, and the small one can easily grow into the big one.
        The goal of our complete isolation is that nobody needs us, we are not zero out of the blue))
        Those who bother us. they will help us.
  9. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 27 December 2019 10: 00
    +5
    These NATO front-line soldiers from the IT campaigns are very "gullible". Having read on VO experts, that everywhere in the army we have a mess, equipment sucks, officers are sadists, soldiers are downs, they cannot understand why and how the current Russian army is considered one of the strongest in the world ... Let's EXPERTS-CRITS and further with your truth and omniscience "litter the brains" of Western analysts, the main thing is that OUR DEAR EXPERTS DO NOT RECOGNIZE (EVEN UNDER TORTURE) THAT THE ARMY NEVER SERVED soldier
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 December 2019 10: 04
    +2
    Whatever simulators and on the basis of what data they would not create, but a possible military conflict with Russia can present so many "surprises" from the Russian soldier, which they had no idea about.
  11. 30143
    30143 27 December 2019 10: 05
    +2
    Such concepts as the flexibility of the mind are alien to them ... the need to invent a cunning ... Well, and much more.
    1. Vitaly Tsymbal
      Vitaly Tsymbal 27 December 2019 10: 13
      +1
      and Russian Avos will carry wassat
  12. Kibl
    Kibl 27 December 2019 10: 21
    0
    "The mind cannot understand Russia" and that says it all!
  13. Igor Pa
    Igor Pa 27 December 2019 10: 34
    0
    https://youtu.be/w0vi2fL2hMg
  14. sergo1914
    sergo1914 27 December 2019 10: 35
    +1
    Russian commanders even think differently


    The old man is right. They often think ... very peculiar. And they speak a special combat language.
  15. gridasov
    gridasov 27 December 2019 10: 54
    +3
    Comparative subjective assessments are a very superficial analysis. Russia again repeats the old mistakes with the actions of its leadership. Huge military spending and the mobilization of the economy through military orders is not a rational allocation of resources. Therefore, as they say, impregnable fortresses are taken from within. And it shows up
    in reducing the standard of living, the growth of social tension and open robbery by officials of various levels of funds and their withdrawal abroad. It should be understood that Russia is again turning into a military-police country as a necessary structure for maintaining the monolithic state power. It is also natural that the created military potential needs to be served by even greater means for many years. But are people ready to live the old way in the age of the Internet, when others enjoy the freedoms and opportunities of a different level? And that is the question. Moreover. Such actions of Russia to mobilize and direct the dominant economy give the opponent and maneuverability in counteraction. Of course, it can be noted that difficulties make Russians more physically viable, but is this a virtue in the new global conditions for the development of civilization. And this I have not yet disclosed the general methods of analysis used by various opposing partners. These are trends in the dynamics of individual processes against the background of various aspects, this is a lot of not yet obvious influence factors, etc.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 27 December 2019 11: 21
      +1
      If specifically on the topic of analytical abilities of the level capabilities of the commanders of the Russian army and the same NATO, then without a doubt the opponent has more options for choosing decisions both at the soldier level and at any level of leaders of any level. Enter additional data into the analysis and the variational possibilities grow equivalently. Therefore, resource opportunities in the framework of the anti-Russian coalition will always be greater. Therefore, Russia can only rely on the search and implementation of innovative and more effective methods and methods and confrontation, but also development. And it already depends on literacy and foresight and generosity and experts and investors
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 11: 26
      -2
      Quote: gridasov
      Russia again repeats the old mistakes with the actions of its leadership. Huge military spending and the mobilization of the economy through military orders is not a rational allocation of resources
      What mistakes, what guidance? The Tsar’s preparations for the war didn’t bother much, and what orders they placed, so at the old factories and abroad, almost like now. But the Soviet economy was built in the shortest possible time and exactly how it was mobilized, which is now almost nonexistent, which was a hundredfold justified in the Great Patriotic War.
      Some kind of mantra
      Quote: gridasov
      Of course, it can be noted that difficulties make Russians more physically viable, but is this a virtue in the new global conditions for the development of civilization. And this I have not yet disclosed the general methods of analysis used by various opposing partners. These are trends in the dynamics of individual processes against the background of various aspects, this is a lot of not yet obvious influence factors, etc.
      Apparently the main thing is not to understand, but to repeat.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 27 December 2019 11: 40
        +1
        You are too emotional, and you need to work with information as a tool. But this is superficially said. Working with statistics and comparative methods is not effective when working with big data.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 11: 45
          0
          I see a set of words slightly related, and what mistakes you see in the manual, I can’t wait for it.
          1. Avior
            Avior 27 December 2019 12: 35
            +1
            Set of words slightly related see

            still would.
            argue with forum exotics, bot program
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 13: 59
              0
              Hahaha, that's how I sensed it, I wanted to write something about a captcha! )))
  16. Rakovor
    Rakovor 27 December 2019 11: 16
    +1
    Something he contradicts himself - on the one hand "relies on the Soviet and earlier experience - from the time of the tsarist army", and on the other - "applies the methods of war of a new generation." Some kind of cognitive dissonance.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 27 December 2019 11: 43
      0
      Contradictions are a comparison of contrasting positions. Therefore, everyone should supplement the missing phrases by himself. Otherwise, you get a capacious article, and this is just a comment
  17. Monar
    Monar 27 December 2019 11: 21
    0
    According to a company representative, all this data is included in the simulation, which resembles a regular computer game. Petersen notes that computer simulations have a huge advantage over a regular card.

    Well, I'm not special of course. But in my humble opinion, legs on the ground are getting better.
  18. Snail N9
    Snail N9 27 December 2019 11: 24
    +1
    "They think differently" ... um, it seems that Filippok believes that he has understood the very essence of Russian military science - described by Suvorov - to appear unexpectedly and in unexpected places. True, Filippok probably did not study at school and at the military academy, therefore he did not know that Frederick the Great, too, said, and Napoleon and Clausewitz and other strategists and generals of all times and peoples said the same ... Truly, Philip Petersen unraveled all the military cunning of the Russians. Now he can proudly bear the nickname - Philip the Clever and his training program will make Western warriors invincible.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 27 December 2019 11: 48
      +2
      Just do not forget that the main opponent is going to fight not with his own hands, on the territory of the enemy, and this, to everything else, causes complex damage. In addition, remember what century is in the yard and what are the geopolitical conditions and the level of technology development, etc.
  19. kenig1
    kenig1 27 December 2019 11: 36
    +1
    “Never fight with the Russians. They will respond to every military trick with unpredictable stupidity. ”
    Bismarck.
  20. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 27 December 2019 11: 50
    +1
    "Military affairs are simple and quite accessible to the common mind of a person. But fighting is difficult." - Clausewitz
  21. LomKuvaldych
    LomKuvaldych 27 December 2019 12: 27
    -4
    The tactics of our generals are based on the belief that "women are still giving birth" and "soldiers are dirt under their feet."
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi 27 December 2019 13: 41
      0
      The Americans are also sure that there are Americans, and there is dirt covering the Earth and preventing Americans from living. So they clean it out - each president strives for a million killed for his presidency. Bush ml - out of competition, 3 million for 5 years of Iraq’s rule.
      1. LomKuvaldych
        LomKuvaldych 27 December 2019 23: 14
        -1
        Americans spit on strangers, and ours on their own.
        1. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 28 December 2019 12: 19
          +1
          Are strangers sitting on reservations in the US?
    2. gridasov
      gridasov 28 December 2019 14: 03
      0
      They took it off the tongue. But there is someone who does not see this.
  22. NOTaFED
    NOTaFED 27 December 2019 12: 34
    0
    Thus, they can, for example, lose a lot of armored vehicles when crossing difficult terrain,

    Iksperdov level is amazing
  23. vic02
    vic02 27 December 2019 13: 36
    0
    But I wonder where the author of the publication studied? Where does this language come from? One continuous "simulation" crying
    For example, what does the author want to say?
    The company deals with the creation of strategic simulations
    belay Does the company deal with strategic modeling? questions of creating strategic scenarios, models?
    Same
    to create simulations that allow you to prepare
    belay to create simulation models that allow you to prepare? to create scripts that allow you to prepare?
    Again
    all of this data is included in a simulation that resembles
    Probably all this data is included in the simulation model (computer model), which resembles?
  24. Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi 27 December 2019 13: 37
    +2
    Occupants and practicing executioners are surprised that the Russian military is not like them. request
  25. evgen1221
    evgen1221 27 December 2019 13: 58
    +1
    He still knows about the construction battalion by jokes, but in real life it’s uber cheat units.
  26. Slavs
    Slavs 27 December 2019 14: 20
    +1
    Alpine transition of Suvorov ...
    Yes, in general, let Aphorisms of Suvorov and Ushakov be revered.
    And draw conclusions ...
  27. toha124
    toha124 27 December 2019 14: 27
    +1
    Of course, it's hard to fight such people. You stole or bought, for example, the plan of operation "red". Prepared. He has resolutely accumulated forces and means in the direction of their main attack. And they took and began even before the time of H to violate their own plan in connection with hard-to-predict carelessness at all levels of government. They took it, hit the wrong place and at the wrong time ...
  28. Cowbra
    Cowbra 27 December 2019 15: 19
    +2
    And I already heard something like this ... True, several other troops and the country's military men spoke there. For example, Galland and Hartman. Well, for example, I’ll remember someone’s phrase from them. that the task of the fighter is to inflict maximum damage to the enemy with minimal risk for himself, it is implied that if there is a risk, give up the attack. Neither Galland nor Hartman would be able to go on ramming over and over again, such as Boris Kovzan. Is it really quite possible to die? Well, this Rostov Khokhil was walking - there is a task - die. but do it. And I think so right
  29. NF68
    NF68 27 December 2019 15: 26
    0
    Unlike NATO countries, the Russian armed forces do not export democracy. Therefore, they think differently.
  30. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 December 2019 15: 26
    +2
    Russia has always won with its unpredictability, so it’s impossible to calculate our actions))
  31. steelmaker
    steelmaker 27 December 2019 15: 38
    0
    "Russian commanders even think differently than commanders in NATO"
    I read the title and for some reason immediately remembered footage from Syria, where our "Typhoon" is being thrown with Molotov cocktails, and our military man has folded his handles on the machine and looks calmly. NATO members would have crumbled everyone into cabbage long ago. Like this! Our rulers-generals first think that I’ll think about them, and then about the lives of soldiers. If this were not so, their sons would have fought too!
  32. Pariv
    Pariv 27 December 2019 17: 23
    +1
    The article succeeded mostly in raising questions which it failed to address. It did no justice to the title. It is neither educative nor informative unless these are lost in English translation.
  33. Good wise
    Good wise 27 December 2019 18: 45
    +2
    "Russians even think differently"

    Because we are a northern civilization, whose citizens, in order to survive, need to know:
    1. in October what the weather will be in August, what to land, or it is better to load on boats and go to another place.
    2. how a pack of wolves will behave, at what moment which of them will jump on you unarmed, in order to have time to stick a finger in his eye, then the next and finally the third, the rest will run away ..
    3. Read the thoughts of the Vedmede in order to save their loved ones who have wandered to stock up on raspberry berries with vitamins and berries.
    4. yet ... much then what is when ... to know what to be able to do because then who knows how what if then then so much ... who because ...)))))

    And we survived.
    Where no German will survive.
    Therefore, they will never understand us.
    To understand, one must be able to live centuries in the harsh cold taiga. Learn to read the thoughts of predators, absorb knowledge, intuition to apply this knowledge.
    Moreover, we learned to use our illogical intuition, learned to read the most secret, most hidden thoughts of our enemies.
    And they know that we read their innermost thoughts.
    Therefore, so rage.
    That Napoleon, that Hitler, that Churchill, that the current NATO warriors, who are not a couple of past enemies.
  34. Recon
    Recon 27 December 2019 19: 48
    +5
    Based on my experience, I can say the following: when the battle begins (especially at night) - chaos and bacchanalia reigns, flies from everywhere, nothing is clear, not visible, not heard, the connection is disgusting, where is the friend or foe, etc. In this situation, the Russian soldier, as a rule, does not piss and does not wait for an order like a blockhead, but begins to act. More than once I witnessed how my comrades came out of completely bad situations without losses. On the other hand, the opposite has happened more than once. The worst thing is the loss of communication and control. And this happens all the time, how do you not work out everything and what cool means for this do not have. As for the armies of the NATO countries: I watched hundreds of videos of their clashes on different landscapes, and there are none on YouTube, etc. Everything is very cool for them in terms of communications and command and control, the interaction between, for example, infantry and aviation, and between all arms is well established, especially among the Americans. The speed of decision-making is impressive. But when something goes wrong as planned, and this, I repeat, happens all the time, the NATO soldier often falls into a stupor. The reasons are probably different, and it’s not even a matter of fear, there is a difference in mentality. They are accustomed to order in everything, proper provision and nutrition, and this is certainly cool. And for something that goes wrong, they are often mentally unprepared. Our guys know in advance that everything will be as always: in one place laughing. This is our advantage, and not only in that very famous SPIRIT.
    1. Good wise
      Good wise 27 December 2019 23: 29
      +1
      This is our Russian spirit.

      I allow myself a little copy-paste that the Russians are not like the Europeans:

      "... It is psychologically important that foreigners do not find in Russian society the usual and necessary" cellular "forms of social life. However, the" living ocean "is always ready to imitate these external forms immediately upon presentation of a sample for mutual convenience of communication. However, there are no serious restrictions on the Russians themselves, these forms are not imposed, while for the Germans following the order is a form of existence, if not the meaning.

      There is a clear example from the history of the Seven Years' War, when the German headquarters of the Russian army was attacked and withdrawn from battle. According to the European rules of the war, this would be the end of the army’s actions, since there is no German without bosses.
      But the Russian soldiers continued to fight and, most importantly, they themselves made the right decisions without the participation of the generals.

      There is a suspicion that this anti-civilized (“anti” - in Greek “instead of”) psychological basis of the “Russian ocean” is much older than even the Slavic Slavic born at the junction and balance of two Roman civilizations. The reason is the very complete inappropriateness of harsh conditions for the birth of civilization, that is, any permanent rules.
      Following strict rules, you can only die in Northern Eurasia, and only intuition that breaks any rules helps to survive. By the special flickering of stars during the winter solstice, by other equally unsteady signs, you can guess which of the regular cataclysms will happen this summer and which will not. And on the basis of this intuition, sow rye, not oats, pick mushrooms, not berries, or even prepare horses or boats for long crossings.

      The ability to subtly observe and repeat the technical actions of neighbors — not only other tribes, but also animals — also helped to survive.
      It is no coincidence that the Russians identify themselves with the bear, who is equally adept at getting various kinds of food.

      However, survival in harsh conditions in river floodplains on the border of forests and steppes, next to different tribes, is impossible without yet another kind of deep intuition - empathy, the ability to predict emotions, thoughts and actions of any partner by first gestures.

      Hence, this is a clear ability to keep a distance at a minimum distance and increased attentiveness to strangers, on the verge of external manifestations of love, but with full preservation of sober self-control. You ask, what does Lem's Solaris have to do with it?
      But all these details just fill the description of the "living ocean".
      Moreover, no less attentive (albeit for other reasons) Snout correctly concludes that the “ocean” not only penetrates the thoughts and feelings of strangers, but also tries to find and highlight the most hidden corners of the subconscious, invisible or hidden by civilized guests from themselves . And this is a separate historiosophical topic, which Stanislav Lem very clearly outlined in the literature, perhaps for the first time.

      Where, in fact, does this order come from in world civilizations, the general adherence to similar rules, widespread in vast expanses. This is now everywhere radio, cinema, TV and the Internet, and with the emergence of European civilization, Byzantium or the Levant, it took months and years to get from edge to edge, and even in conditions of intense intraspecific struggle with neighbors.
      So, there is a suspicion that the basis for such regularity is the very carefully hidden, "encapsulated" core of the psyche, which the "ocean" so easily extracts and embodies in reality.
      This is a kind of deep neurosis that underlies the collective actions of peoples belonging to the same civilization. For European civilization, such a common neurosis is a psychic phenomenon called the Stockholm Syndrome. Victims of violence who survived the killing of loved ones begin to idolize rapists and, moreover, participate in the same violence. Their children and distant descendants carry this experience in themselves as an unconscious neurosis that regularly erupts in the Dionysian revelry of passions.
      Actually, we have Lem’s description of the victim’s “love” for the rapist, even if the violence was purely psychological, but no less murderous.

      There is a suspicion that the European neurosis and its first carriers - the Celts or their predecessors were born together with glacial lakes at the junction of future Europe and the mainland, together with the iron from these lakes and the first iron tools.
      But for the transition to an inhuman state and the conversion of tools to tools of murder, drugs were also needed, and in a moderate amount, not killing, but shifting the psyche. To the north and east of the Carpathians, ergot does not have time to ripen, to the south - too much of it ripens, so the border of the distribution of Celtic names (Galich, Galati) does not seem to be random. And the future Europe was born in the same place as Lem. However, this is definitely a fantasy on the topic ...

      Let us return to Lem’s fruitful idea about the “encapsulated” neuroses characteristic of each of the described civilizations. For Europe, even if it changed the name of its "imperfect God" Dionysus to Christ, a basic neurosis is outlined very well. For the late Byzantine civilization, which also renamed Christ its Mithra, this basic neurosis is that same slavery, that is, in a more general form - the obsession with absolute superiority over other people.
      This Byzantine neurosis, after the destruction of its focus, spread throughout the world, including in Europe, became the basis for Calvinism and other Protestant versions of Christianized Dionysianism (liberalism). The center of this already double neurosis has moved to the West, to Venice, Spain, Amsterdam, London and now resides in the United States. Sartorius's obsession is so shameful because it combines both neurosis - European and Byzantine.
      1. Good wise
        Good wise 27 December 2019 23: 30
        +1
        Anglo-Saxon civilization prefers to enter into alliances with the most uncivilized tribes, using them against civilized neighbors, helping them become prematurely “adults”, telling them instead of knowing a fairy tale, like Lewis Carroll to the girl Alice. And when another friend of the global “geopedophile” matures before marriageable age, as Vietnam or now Libya used to be, it is genocidal in Europe and brutally raped. Very convenient - an immature slave terrorizes neighbors and matures for sadistic pleasures.

        It can also be noted that the dead Gibaryan is a fetish for a seemingly living "black woman", a former slave. This kind of "necrophilia" is an image of a common neurosis for the peoples of the Levant, worshiping the shadows of the long-dead great civilizations. However, the very first state that arose here, was in appearance a ritual of worshiping the first mummy of a deified deceased leader and, in fact, a cemetery organization.
        As for the intimate secrets of Snout, out of respect for Lem and at his request, I will not begin to disclose it explicitly. Suffice it to say that Eastern Jews combine Levantine and Byzantine neuroses, and Ashkenazi also add to them the European syndrome. Actually, that's why the diaspora fits so organically into any Abrahamic civilization, having the keys to the deepest secrets. Paradoxically, dependence on three neuroses at once gives a greater degree of freedom, an opportunity not only for choice of dependence, but also the possibility of independence, creative periods.

        Now let’s discuss how basic neurosis creates a uniform order in civilization. The inescapable need for regular violence and murder forms waves of expansion reaching the natural borders of the southern seas and deserts, the boundless Ukrainian steppe, Belarusian and Pskov swamps, and northern taiga.
        Reflecting from the shores, the pulsating waves of violence create order in the form of nodes, levels and forms of violence. All carriers of neurosis are limited by the activity of other carriers. Rules arise who, when, whom and for what has the right to rape. Even the lowest layer, in case of violation of their “rights”, has the right to violence against rapists. From here all rights and obligations flow.
        Another thing is that, as the mass and energy of civilization accumulate, its neurosis is embodied in the final fascist forms of the destruction machine. So the Byzantine slave trade and the desire for superiority degenerate into a state of slaves. But uniform rules and civilized forms are still respected.

        Now imagine a situation when the “living ocean" of Russia receives civilized guests, for example, Germans. This is, after all, the fulfillment of all secret dreams and lusts - vast, endless fertile lands, distant but German authorities and kindly dog-like, loving stick and German gentleman people.
        Of course, the real Baron Munchausen from the retinue of Princess Sofia - the future Catherine II, who described all this German happiness in his memoirs, could not discern in the eyes of the Russians keen and curious curiosity - to what extent the German could reach in the absence of a restraining framework.
        After satisfying this curiosity, Emelyan Pugachev enters the scene and royally blesses the people to exterminate the German, and at the same time other masters.
        Of course, the memory of the “German dream” that was gained, despite ridiculing the German dream by the British (Raspe's book), will live in every German’s soul and will be embodied in the final “Drang nach Osten”.
        Then, the motives of violence, hidden from themselves, for the sake of violence, will flourish with a lush bloody color in the vastness of Russia, which, as usual, has retreated before the next guest and carefully studied what fate it deserves.

        Byzantine Orthodoxy also experienced in Russia unprecedented prosperity and status in Byzantium itself. Only now, the preaching of equality and love turned into Josephism, active participation in enslavement and slavery, and cruel persecution of believers. Well, the Russians responded by split and reassignment of the church to the state.

        Or liberalism with democracy flourishes in Russia today, so much so that all the grimaces of capitalism and skeletons with skeletons, which in Britain and America are usually hidden under the guise of a gentleman and behind the screen of corporate solidarity, are wide open here.

        There is another example from contact with another branch of civilization. The Jew Snout at Lem or Lem for Snout suddenly begins to make excuses that there were no sins behind him, other than secret fantasies. And in fact, the Purim holiday, shocking others, and the corresponding texts are, apparently, vindictive fantasies that have never taken place in life.
        It’s like a flimsy teenager, always offended in the yard, doesn’t even fantasize, but will see a dream where, having sudden power, he takes revenge on all offenders. However, having moved to a neighboring city, he may well tell this dream to the same boys as the former in reality.
        However, this is a misfortune, in Russia this unprecedentedness, fantasy, dream, the dream of a Jewish boy to become a security official came true in 1917, but also quickly ended after the Russians satisfied their curiosity.
        And again, as with the Germans, an almost fulfilled dream pushes the Jewish Snout to persuade European Chris and American Sartorius to conduct a new experiment on the “living ocean” of Russia.
        Remember, in the last chapters, Solaris is irradiated with rigid (beyond the conventions) ideological weapons, broadcasting European thoughts and values?
        Only what is the point if the “living ocean” has long penetrated the farthest nooks of a civilized mind?
        No point other than a neurotic desire to inflict pain for the very ability to read secret thoughts. "

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        1. Whisper
          Whisper 28 December 2019 00: 31
          +1
          Maybe we do not just occupy 1/6 sushi? Maybe you need to be tougher? Maybe you should not be afraid?
          1. Good wise
            Good wise 28 December 2019 00: 37
            +1
            And who is afraid ??
            What does it mean harder?
            Trebaltika return to the fold of Slavic lands? Donbass, Black Sea, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Belarus to reunite with Russia?))
            1. Whisper
              Whisper 28 December 2019 09: 25
              +1
              Harder, it means sanctions to us, but we are double sanctions ... both on titanium and on space engines, and nothing ... we will survive. Stop energy supplies to "partners". To bring the trade turnover with Ukraine to zero ... otherwise it’s some kind of clownery.
              1. Good wise
                Good wise 28 December 2019 12: 29
                +1
                What are these sanctions for us?)

                These are sanctions against American competitors, across Europe.
                But we, on the contrary, thanks to these sanctions raised our agricultural production to unprecedented heights, adopted a new food doctrine for the next 10 years. The current one was completed two years earlier) Food exports are increasing every year.
                The USSR used to buy grain from all sorts of Canada, Argentina, and Australia; now Russia is selling surpluses. And this is without virgin Kazakhstan, without the richest black soil Ukraine.
                and we are double sanctions ... both on titanium and on space engines
                This is all being done.
                Crimea was quietly returned, we are working in Syria, the Crimean bridge was built, the production and export of oil and gas is growing every year ...
                No need to read our Russian liberal media.
                For example, have you read in our media about the fact that the party of anti-trumpists in the USA (Clintonites, they are Rockefellers, they are force number 1 in the recent past) suffered losses of two billion (!) Dollars for the very first month after the attack of the Saudi oil refinery in October ?
                And they blamed everything on the Iranian "abdullah". Yes, they do not have such space technologies, and no one else, except for two countries in the world, guess what.
                Stop energy supplies to "partners".
                And live on what, create Caliber, Vanguards, Relights, Poseidons, Zircons and other defenses against Western fools for what?
                Trade with Ukraine to bring to zero ... and then some kind of clowning.

                That we conclude, it remains only to Yuzhmash and Sich to completely replace in the structure of Russian defense production to the end.


                ps.
                "- Don't read liberal media.
                - Um ... But there are no others.
                - Don't read any. "© smile
                1. Cruel beaver
                  Cruel beaver 28 December 2019 14: 19
                  +1
                  You YuzhMash abstract concept and here it is a plant that fed many thousands of people. and not their fault that everything went through the anus .....
                  1. Good wise
                    Good wise 28 December 2019 16: 40
                    0
                    Dear, in Russia in every city "factories that fed many thousands of people" died, I myself worked at such a plant in the Urals until 90, more than a thousand people worked in our workshop alone.
                    He suggested that the factory management rebuild, organize the production of consumer electronics at the plant’s facilities - personnel, equipment, and technological processes allowed, since they released space and military electronics, they could outshine not only China, or Korean LG and Samsung, but also Sharp, Sanyo and other manufacturers of video recorders and further down the list sad
          2. maidan.izrailovich
            maidan.izrailovich 28 December 2019 06: 10
            +1
            Maybe you should not be afraid?

            But ordinary Russian men are afraid of nobody anyway.
            Those who are at the helm are usually afraid. For some reason, we rarely have at the head of the country those who are not afraid of anything.
            Maybe you need to be tougher?

            And there is.
            Take advantage of our weakness ... good we.
  35. certero
    certero 28 December 2019 04: 58
    +1
    How powerful we are, he takes pride.
  36. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 28 December 2019 06: 06
    +2
    Photo to the test score. Urgent reminded. Near Tula, in training at night, it is snowing, wind and frost -36, we are running from the shooting range (night shooting) in the OZK and gas masks for 3 km. Then, in the barracks, press the overcoat. I do not regret anything. There is something to remember.
  37. demo
    demo 28 December 2019 07: 41
    +3
    Our goal is to show that the Russian approach to the war is very complex. Contemporary Russian martial art is based on Soviet and earlier experience - from the time of the tsarist army.
    Take it further.
    We must take into account the experience of Ivan Susanin, Prince Dmitry Pozharsky and the saltman Kuzma Minin.
    You can see earlier.
    Textbooks of the Right Prince Dmitry Donskoy raise.
    You look, they’ll become smarter.
    I mean, they’d change their mind about planning to climb for us.
  38. Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov 28 December 2019 09: 11
    +3
    The American should remember that the Russians will go where it is not possible and will fight where it is not possible, for the Russian soldier there are no barriers.
  39. Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov 28 December 2019 09: 18
    +1
    I’m looking at the photo, zipper overalls have been thought up for a long time, and we have all the pins, bukley, a cloak in our sleeves, to wear stockings and gloves, while you get dressed you’ll be poisoned by the hell.
    1. I am
      I am 28 December 2019 11: 11
      +1
      and training for what? Have you just come up with standards?
      and if the lightning fails .... it will jam what will you do? so our OZK is more reliable, although there is an opinion that few will be saved from anything, but still
    2. Deathmaker
      Deathmaker 28 December 2019 20: 01
      0
      how a raincoat is put on in 3 min., as a jumpsuit - in 5. until you learn - you'll go into outfits.
  40. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 28 December 2019 14: 14
    +2
    Robyat! Since when has HE become a place to sort things out? Let's be a little different and respect the opinions of others .... We are not Maydanutye? !!! IMHO.
  41. zed042
    zed042 28 December 2019 15: 04
    +1
    Keep it up!
  42. ASASHOKA
    ASASHOKA 28 December 2019 17: 52
    0
    Sick people ... This is a diagnosis! Medical!
    This is not treated, and in case of urgent need it is eliminated.
    Gareeva also dragged, a man died (the Kingdom of God to him), and this one is right here - I spoke to him and understood everything.
  43. Deathmaker
    Deathmaker 28 December 2019 19: 57
    0
    Quote: patron
    I heard that the Russian conscript stood in the way of the abrams and they did not pass, I don’t know, maybe a bike, I don’t know the name of a soldier.

    Bato Dashidorzhiev. Not Russian, but Russian.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0__HN9ehKY
  44. Deathmaker
    Deathmaker 28 December 2019 20: 50
    0
    It is strange that no one has posted:
  45. igor panov
    igor panov 29 December 2019 09: 52
    0
    While NATO is making plans, Russian soldiers are changing the landscape.
  46. arhPavel
    arhPavel 1 January 2020 10: 24
    0
    He blurted out the bullshit, and continues to survey the terrain.
    The question is, what is distracting maneuver in his actions
  47. Alexander Lik
    Alexander Lik 9 January 2020 19: 15
    0
    A little more, two hundred years, and the Poles will reveal the modern military thought of Russia.
  48. Jarserge
    Jarserge 6 March 2020 10: 19
    0
    "... uses 9 elements against liberal democracies, including cybernetic, informational methods, intimidation, demonstration of military force, bribery, secret operations, etc. ..."
    Well, they told me everything about themselves. That’s exactly what Americans do, especially bribery ... buy everyone and everything