The BBC is trying to find out “why Putin got angry with Poland”


The British “BBC” published material in which the authors ask: “Why did Putin get angry with Poland?” This material is actively circulated by the Polish media, including the large publication Rzeczpospolita.


The material describes how the President of Russia at several meetings in a row spoke about archival documents that mentioned the activities of the leadership of the “Second Polish Republic”. In particular, the BBC cited Putin’s widely known quote about after Poland in Nazi Germany, Jozef Lipsky, who promised to put Hitler “a magnificent monument in Warsaw” for the idea of ​​expelling Jews to Africa.

BBC:

Over the past week, Putin mentioned at least five times the role of Warsaw on the eve of World War II. For example, he called Ambassador Józef Lipsky a bastard and an anti-Semitic pig.

It is noted that Vladimir Putin reacted harshly to the resolution of the European Parliament, which virtually equally blamed the unleashing of WWII on Nazi Germany and the USSR.

BBC:

Putin called this approach a peak of cynicism. And so Putin decided to shift the responsibility for unleashing the Second World War to someone else. In this case, to Poland.

Polish media emphasize that the BBC writes about the "pillar of state ideology of Russia", based on victory in the Great Patriotic War.

Republic:
British journalists recall that although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago.

At the same time, the Great Patriotic Polish media is called the so-called.

From the material BBC:
Putin is trying so hard to justify his expansionist policy, wanting to regain control of the territories belonging to the USSR, the successor of which is Russia. That is why the Kremlin considers any criticism of what is considered the Great Victory of Russia to be an attack on Russia itself.
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  1. Olgovich 27 December 2019 07: 55 New
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    Over the past week, Putin mentioned at least five times the role of Warsaw on the eve of World War II. For example, he called Ambassador Józef Lipsky bastard and anti-Semitic pig.

    And what's wrong ?!

    The President is absolutely right!

    And PolandWWII culprit along with Germany and Hungary tore the Czechs in 1938

    Hypocrites ...
    1. rocket757 27 December 2019 07: 57 New
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      The BBC is trying to find out “why Putin got angry with Poland”

      Tired of looking at "pansky" beams, listening.
      Comes back, everything that they ran into.
      1. hydrox 27 December 2019 09: 02 New
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        In principle, absolutely everything that the GDP said to some Pszek Lipsky actually refers to the whole of Europe and to the European Parliament, as the representative body of the EU.
        Moreover, over time, the Western so-called "pornographic democracies" are increasingly actively and impudently whitening and heroizing their connection with fascism in the eyes of the younger generation, which is happy to accept all kinds of concessions in terms of moral behavior.
        So with a high degree of probability we will see these “one children” trying to violate our border, judging by the fact that even the skakuas begin to imagine themselves as “real Aryans” and “blond beasts”, who, with the return of New Russia to their native harbor, will begin to enjoy us shoot and kill.
        1. rocket757 27 December 2019 10: 16 New
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          Quote: hydrox
          In principle, absolutely everything that the GDP said to some Pszek Lipsky actually refers to the whole of Europe and to the European Parliament, as the representative body of the EU.

          We have no friends there! Even partners can be called with a very big stretch ....
          1. Tatyana 27 December 2019 13: 39 New
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            The BBC is trying to find out “why Putin got angry with Poland”

            Yeah! Some kind of "strange" is the "BBC", because it is asked by very strange, obvious questions! As if the BBC didn’t know that in 2019 in a provocative manner, the 80th anniversary of the start of WWII was internationally celebrated in Poland and what happened. Moreover, it was noted with great hidden military ZAKHAM for future peaceful coexistence in the same Europe. Namely.

            The Bulgarians told Putin not to call the expulsion of Hitler troops from their territory the Soviet army - the liberation of Europe from fascism. The Poles generally equated Stalin and the German chief Fuhrer, and Putin was not allowed on the threshold. What are the secrets? What are the skeletons in the closets?
            As a result, Putin, Trump and Johnson did not come to Warsaw on the 80th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II. The leaders of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition disdained to be in the company of former Nazi collaborators.

            Details - get it! Which countries participated in the celebration of the 80th anniversary of the start of WWII? This is a rally of WWII participants on the side of Hitler! (See from 15:55 min.)
            1. rocket757 27 December 2019 13: 45 New
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              The leaders of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition disdained to be in the company of former Nazi collaborators.

              Logically, that’s why they rage without measure. Every little thing is twirling, so it behaves.
              1. Tatyana 27 December 2019 14: 10 New
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                Rђ RІRѕS, historical cadres of the Munich agreement - namely, who and how divided and occupied Czechoslovakia in 1938 and with whose filing this was happening.

                Occupation of Czechoslovakia 1938. Published: Oct 1, 2018
                1. rocket757 27 December 2019 14: 22 New
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                  What is geyrope doing now? There EVERYTHING is smeared by the most do not indulge.
                  They will smear the one who Proudly can say "WE ARE WINNERS" ...
                  Consider small people now in power everywhere, they want to tailor all for themselves ... and they are afraid! History, how not to overwrite it, remembering, is remembered by all who should.
                  1. Tatyana 27 December 2019 14: 49 New
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                    Let the Poles and countries of the Hitler coalition wither away, denying that it was from the Munich Agreement of 1938 and the partition of Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland that the WWII began!
                    Allegedly, the world should forget about the beginning of WWII! Since this was the answer of the USSR to the beginning of WWII after the Munich agreement and the partition of Czechoslovakia in 1938 between Germany and Poland - the "Hyena of Europe".

                    Exactly September 30, 1938 in Munich, the signing of documents that destroyed the entire world order and plunged mankind into the most terrible war. Late night after short talks лидеры Great Britain, France and Italy signed an agreement with Hitler on the transfer of the Sudetenland Czechoslovakia to Germany. Czechoslovakia lost a third of its territory and population, almost all of its heavy industry. The conspiracy of the Anglo-French politicians finally untied the hands of Hitler.

                    During the Second World War, occupied Czechoslovakia became a major industrial base of the Nazi Reich. Every fourth shell fired at Stalingrad was produced at Czech plants. Here every seventh German tank and almost a third of cargo and military vehicles for the Wehrmacht were going to.

                    War crimes of the Germans in the occupied territories of Czechoslovakia began in the fall of 1938. An example is the genocide of the German population in the village of Liditsa in the Czech Republic.

                    Munich agreement. Invitation to hell | TV channel "History". Published: October 1 2018
                    1. Tatyana 27 December 2019 15: 12 New
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                      As for Poland itself, in its participation at the beginning of WWII in 1938, then it is taken into account that while the Western powers and Germany were discussing the future of the Sudetenland, Warsaw itself, by agreement with Hitler, on September 21, 1938 presented an ultimatum to Czechoslovakia and demanded that Teszyn region be returned to Poland.

                      And even before that - until September 21, 1938 - namely, on January 14, 1938, Polish Foreign Minister Jozef Beck visited Hitler, German-Polish consultations began on Czechoslovakia.
                      At the same time, Berlin made demands to ensure the rights of the Sudeten Germans, and Warsaw - with similar demands regarding the Teshin Poles.
                      As a result, The Polish and German military command agreed on a line of demarcation of troops in case of the invasion of Germany and Poland in Czechoslovakia.

                      So let the Poles dry up, saying that they allegedly did not start WWII in alliance with Germany and that Poland was during the WWII just an allegedly “innocent” victim.
                    2. Leonid Anatolevich 27 December 2019 21: 56 New
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                      Why should I forget about the beginning of the Second World War, tell me, where was the war after the annexation of areas inhabited by Germans, Hungarians, Poles? There were no military operations, no at all
                      1. Tatyana 27 December 2019 23: 20 New
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                        Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
                        tell me, where was the war after the annexation of areas inhabited by Germans, Hungarians, Poles? There were no military operations, no at all

                        But the seizure of foreign territories and the hijacking of local people to work in Germany, for example, do not you consider war? Do you consider physical destruction of the local population by the enemy in concentration camps in the occupied lands to be a war? And do not you consider the destruction of the Liditsa population in the Czech Republic by parts of the German SS for Czech military resistance to be a war? Yes, much more!

                        You video exhibited above "Munich conspiracy. An invitation to hell!"

                        You obviously didn’t even watch this video! But talk about some kind of "peace" during the violent military occupation of other countries - that is, during the war!

                        You have strange arguments about some kind of "world"! You yourself, by any chance, will not be from Western Ukraine?
                      2. Leonid Anatolevich 28 December 2019 00: 27 New
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                        Not from Western. You do not read at all, I spoke only about the acquisitions of 1938 by Hungary, Poland, Germany
                      3. Tatyana 28 December 2019 01: 10 New
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                        Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
                        I talked only about the acquisitions of 1938 by Hungary, Poland, Germany

                        I am also talking about the same thing - i.e. only on the territorial-occupational acquisitions of Germany and Poland in 1938.
                      4. victor50 28 December 2019 16: 25 New
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                        Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
                        Not from Western. You do not read at all, I spoke only about the acquisitions of 1938 by Hungary, Poland, Germany

                        It seems to me what happened, how it happened. By the time of our invasion of Poland, Great Britain and France were already at war. Are we an aggressor? Yes, whatever you want call! Did you have to do this? Of course! We did not start World War II, and it did not begin as a result of our conspiracy with Hitler. Would there be an attack on Poland by Germany without her, as you call, the acquisitions of 1938 and the policies of the West, Great Britain and France in particular? Another question: we are considered the instigators of WWII along with Hitler. Why did not France and England declare war on September 17, 1939 and after? Moreover, in the future we fought with them on the same side. Funny: if we are the aggressor, then who are they - our allies in the future? Supposed, supposedly, the aggressor? Now they are beginning to rewrite history, guided by today's political conjuncture. Those generations that fought obviously felt differently. We were not an aggressor for that West. Well, if you are guided by your logic, then we just returned the territories where the former citizens of the Republic of Ingushetia lived, wink Well, cynical humor is similar to not so long-standing statements: what about Russia, it is Ukraine and Belarus are aggressors - they now have former Polish possessions. wink You never know that they got them as part of the USSR. Ukraine would definitely have to offer them to Poland in the light of its current policy. lol
        2. Den717 27 December 2019 15: 23 New
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          I agree with the author of the video. Listening to some of our liberals and partners with TV is sometimes very disgusting. But on the other hand, how would we know what this part of the community thinks of us? It would be believed to this day that Western politicians are all completely gentlemen, white and furry. After all, for so long we have been equating Europe on most issues ...
  • DEDPIHTO 27 December 2019 08: 00 New
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    Yes, of course, he is right, but hitherto unprecedented rage was directed precisely at anti-Semitism, thereby giving out Putin's priorities. winked
    1. mark2 27 December 2019 08: 05 New
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      . thereby giving out Putin's priorities


      A drop of feces in a bowl of honey?
      1. DEDPIHTO 27 December 2019 08: 17 New
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        Quote: mark2
        . thereby giving out Putin's priorities


        A drop of feces in a bowl of honey?

        If you consider the behavior of Poland, a basin of honey, then yes, he dripped!
    2. hydrox 27 December 2019 09: 17 New
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      You can, of course, debate whether the emphasis was correctly placed on the GDP, but the Russians should understand that Nazism was and will be our main enemy for a long time, even if it is not a complete synonym for anti-Semitism (Nazism came to Russia with the IDEOLOGICAL aim to kill Russians), and the Holocaust to a greater extent showed the selfishness of the nature of nations and ethnic groups engaged in the extermination of Jews in concentration camps (the lower composition (including the Waffen SS) of the camp administration) ...
      1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 09: 32 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        engaged in the extermination of Jews in concentration camps (the lower composition (including the Waffen SS) of the camp administration) ...

        But the senior and highest staff is not your fault in the destruction of Jews and other peoples.
        1. hydrox 27 December 2019 11: 05 New
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          You read poorly (I didn’t expect from you): the senior and top staff got theirs in Nuremberg.
          But the lower composition (skakuasov, psheks and Baltic states) Stalin did not manage to re-educate in the KolymLag, NorLag ...
          In the 59th Khrushchev the dog gave them all an amnesty even in the camps ... that’s where the Bandera-Shukhevych infection oozes BEFORE. sad
          1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 11: 20 New
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            Quote: hydrox

            You read poorly (I didn’t expect from you): the senior and top staff got theirs in Nuremberg.
            But the lower composition (skakuasov, psheks and Baltic states) Stalin did not manage to re-educate in the KolymLag, NorLag ...
            In the 59th Khrushchev the dog gave them all an amnesty even in the camps

            But he struck the biggest blow by closing the project 501, 502, 503 The Trans-Polar Railway - the project of the railway from the shores of the Barents Sea to the coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and to Chukotka. And there is no road most needed for the country, and the entire Nazi abomination has been released. Now disentangle yourself.
            1. hydrox 27 December 2019 11: 33 New
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              But in this I agree with you on all 100
    3. orionvitt 27 December 2019 10: 52 New
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      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      rage was directed specifically at anti-Semitism, thereby giving out Putin's priorities

      Just the "Jewish question", this is the little that remains, what Europe can penetrate now. All other arguments in the West are brazenly rejected, or bashfully hushed up. From the point of view of “European democracies,” the main event of World War II, which they have not yet questioned, is the Holocaust. What Putin took advantage of.
    4. Xnumx vis 27 December 2019 11: 29 New
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      I don’t feel special love for Israel and its citizens ... But I don’t like Shilkgruber Adolf Aloizovich to disgust ... So, there is no need for a nationalist foam!
  • private person 27 December 2019 08: 12 New
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    Well, yes, only the Czechs themselves do not want to seem "terpils" and do not like the Poles do not recognize the aggression. More precisely, they must have been told to keep their mouths shut.
    1. hydrox 27 December 2019 09: 41 New
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      What do you want from them?
      They always had pants on the straps, and in their pocket a tube of petroleum jelly ...
      Well, they were NEVER passionaries, the more so living next to the Germans (those had a short conversation).
      And look, who more than others wanted to snatch victory from us in hockey battles ::
      1. Swedes: Peter did not allow to conquer Russia, Murman and Balt. the sea, and also bought the Chukhon lands.
      2. Dates: Have suffered, poor, under the yoke of RI - but they were calm, and they never oppressed them, but HOW fought in Finnish!
      3. Chukhontsy (from Latvians), all their lives in Landsknechts they hired anyone, but how to take revenge - so Russian!
      4. Czechs (stand alone): but they are fighting a mortal battle with the Russians, despite the fact that ONLY RUSSIANS tried to defend them in 38g. from the section and the Anschluss - and on the hockey platform they fought to the point of blood! The question is: why ??
      An interesting discipline is history!
  • Siberia 75 27 December 2019 08: 12 New
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    Putin got angry at Poland

    This is not pissed off, so he giggled lightly at the dog.
    These Russophobes need for every lie in relation to the USSR-Russia, a muzzle on the asphalt to carry.
  • maidan.izrailovich 27 December 2019 08: 26 New
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    And Poland, the culprit of WWII, along with Germany and Hungary tore the Czechs in 1938.
    Hypocrites ...

    You are absolutely right.
    But your list is not complete.
    Also, the culprits of the outbreak of World War II are all countries that signed the Munich agreement.
    1. Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 08: 35 New
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      Whatever Olgovich and the UK would accuse of something bad, as he had not hit the USSR in his comment, I am amazed.
      1. Aerodrome 27 December 2019 08: 53 New
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        hype caught the supreme ... the rating must be raised in any way. if you don’t help your people, then give at least another in the face. wassat
        1. Olgovich 27 December 2019 09: 11 New
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          Quote: Aerodrome
          HYIP caught

          belay
          Quote: Aerodrome
          . rating need

          No need: I have real stars yes
          1. Aerodrome 27 December 2019 09: 21 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            No need: I have real stars

            Yes, I understand that, the Poles have been lurking for a long time; held ... and when the people began to bay, here you are!
            1. common man 27 December 2019 13: 11 New
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              the Poles have been hiding for a long time, pulled over the wort, they should have been 20 years ago .. but no ... Putin flirted with them. held ...

              And now the information for consideration. When does the contract for gas transit through Yamal end with us? If we conclude a contract through the 404th, then we may well refuse to transit through Poland. and the Poles themselves do everything for this. And if so, then you can remember about "Ambassador Józef Lipsky".
          2. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 09: 36 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            No need: I have real stars

            Whose stars?
      2. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 09: 35 New
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        as he did not fall upon the USSR in his commentary, I am amazed.

        I am also surprised.
  • 72jora72 27 December 2019 09: 03 New
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    And Poland, the culprit of WWII, along with Germany and Hungary tore the Czechs in 1938.
    You called the "political pawns" the main culprits in the cultivation of fascism and Nazism, and as a result of the Third Reich the United States, Great Britain and the financial circles of Europe appeared. These were the true puppeteers who thought they could control Hitler and move him in the right direction.
    1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 09: 38 New
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      and as a result of the advent of the Third Reich are the United States, Britain and the financial circles of Europe.

      Add here the Golden International.
  • Vladimir_2U 27 December 2019 09: 29 New
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    How so? Olgych, the Stalinist USSR does not blame for the outbreak of World War II! For some reason, in the comments to other articles, he walks right on the verge, but here he modestly only blamed Poland, Hungary and Russia. Britain is again forgotten, but a pity. Although usually he directly fights for his beloved Brit, but here he does not remember.
    A fine selection of photo portraits of the main leaders of the German army, stern, smart opponents ....
    But the conscientious government has no illusions: 31 10.39 g its Chairman Molotov burst out with such a talk about "CRIME of the war against Hitlerism", so much confidence, optimism, praise from him about Germany, that no words .. Germany is no longer ... aggressor, and they are England against France .. THE FIGHTER FOR PEACE
    Olgovich ©
    Quote: Olgovich
    Hypocrites ..
    That's who to whom but not Olgovich to broadcast about hypocrites.
  • Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2019 09: 38 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    And Poland, the culprit of WWII, along with Germany and Hungary tore the Czechs in 1938.

    I agree with you, but, nevertheless, the main and first culprits of WWII were. Germany in the first place and France with Britain, let them share the second and third place. But the fourth place, undoubtedly, remains for Poland.
    1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 09: 45 New
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      Germany in the first place and France with Britain, let them share the second and third place.

      USA first. France and Britain are only singers.
      1. Aerodrome 27 December 2019 09: 58 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Germany in the first place and France with Britain, let them share the second and third place.

        USA first. France and Britain are only singers.

        sponsors all ... what's the difference who is the first? all of Europe plowed on Hitler ... our grandfathers disbanded.
    2. Leonid Anatolevich 27 December 2019 21: 39 New
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      The first place belongs to the Kremlin party of idiots
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 27 December 2019 23: 11 New
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        We hear from an idiot!
  • Den717 27 December 2019 13: 57 New
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    I would not award Poland such a high rank. The culprit of WWII was Britain, exacerbating the crisis of international relations in Europe. Poland had every opportunity to prevent a war. But, thanks to the stupid policy of an arrogant and headless gentry, she became one of the accomplices of the aggressive bloc of countries and their tool. She was used inexpensively and wasted into consumption. She is on the same roles today. History did not go in vain. Repetition is inevitable ...
  • NEXUS 27 December 2019 15: 04 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    And Poland, the culprit of WWII, along with Germany and Hungary tore the Czechs in 1938.

    Hypocrites ...

    Attempts to rewrite history and WWII results have been conducted in the past and will be conducted in the future. The victory of the USSR in that war never haunted either the Anglo-Saxons or their mongrel.
    Every May 9 is Victory Day for us, and for most of Europe it is the Day of Defeat.
  • Leonid Anatolevich 27 December 2019 21: 34 New
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    Why are hypocrites? But could Czechoslovakia remain aloof from foreign lands, joined at the whim of the victors of the First World War?
  • Mountain shooter 27 December 2019 08: 06 New
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    And the British blame should also be considered. Not without its incitement, Poland “cut through” ... And there were enough Hitler supporters there ... And Czechoslovakia was “thrown” to strengthen the power of the military-industrial complex, and Austria was “sold out” as it was ...
    1. Livonetc 27 December 2019 08: 30 New
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      The royal family zigzag in front of the camera lenses.
      Yes, and the first world unleashed not without the intrigues of the Anglo-Saxons.
      1. bessmertniy 27 December 2019 09: 23 New
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        Great Britain pitted Germany with others - to maintain primacy in the Old World. And in principle, her policy then differed little from Germany - this is the desire for world domination. negative
        1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 11: 09 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Great Britain pitted Germany with others - to maintain primacy in the Old World.

          The most competent thought. For Britain, Germany has always been the foremost enemy, for the German economy was superior to the British. Who created Poland after WWI? Entente, but mainly France and Britain, as a buffer between Russia and Germany (suddenly make friends) and then come kyrdyk and France and Britain. At the request of Pilsudski from the British for help in creating Greater Poland, the British responded "We do not need Greater Poland, we need Poland, which borders the RSFSR."
          1. Leonid Anatolevich 27 December 2019 21: 36 New
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            To whom are these nonsense addressed? Poland was created by the Poles themselves.
            1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 22: 07 New
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              Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
              To whom are these nonsense addressed? Poland was created by the Poles themselves.

              Just as Ukraine has created itself.
              1. Leonid Anatolevich 27 December 2019 22: 17 New
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                You stupid creepy
                1. tihonmarine 27 December 2019 22: 50 New
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                  Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
                  You stupid creepy

                  Sorry with the Ukrainians try not to talk.
                  1. Leonid Anatolevich 28 December 2019 00: 22 New
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                    I am not Ukrainian
            2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 27 December 2019 23: 15 New
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              And what could the Psheks themselves if it were not for the same Germany, if they had not destroyed Russia? How many times did they push themselves and each time they got on the wort!
  • AlexVas44 27 December 2019 08: 13 New
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    Apparently Putin was already tired of this arrogant papacy, of all their Russophobia, of deliverance in the memory of the people of the Soviet liberators. Much has been done on the part of the USSR to cover up the whole truth about the Poles, to step over a lot of the shameful in their history, for the sake of further relations from scratch. They did not understand, they showed their rottenness. Get the truth, even if the world finds out about this, rummages in its memory, thinks about itself. A lot of things are still hiding there ...
    1. Aerodrome 27 December 2019 08: 56 New
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      Quote: AlexVas44
      Apparently Putin was already tired of this arrogant papacy, of all their Russophobia, of deliverance in the memory of the people of the Soviet liberators. Much has been done on the part of the USSR to cover up the whole truth about the Poles, to step over a lot of the shameful in their history, for the sake of further relations from scratch. They did not understand, they showed their rottenness. Get the truth, even if the world finds out about this, rummages in its memory, thinks about itself. A lot of things are still hiding there ...

      the truth is in principle ... but Putin wasn’t tired of panamanism, but uses this panama as makiwara, in order to distract his people who drove taxes and requisitions into omno. right now we ... will find enemies! those who pulled up housing and communal services above the skirt, made pennies to beggars due to this, Poland! here is the root of evil! Atu her! wassat
  • certero 27 December 2019 08: 14 New
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    It’s possible from the category of us, but they dare.
    that is, when Russia is accused of all horrors, is this normal, when they reminded Poland of its real shoals - did it get angry in Poland?
  • Pessimist22 27 December 2019 08: 14 New
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    Because POLSKA KURWA.
    1. hydrox 27 December 2019 09: 56 New
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      I remember this curse, in 50-60 it was widely circulated - and indeed its use has always been extremely targeted
  • Aliken 27 December 2019 08: 18 New
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    The BBC is a sump journalism.
  • Was mammoth 27 December 2019 08: 27 New
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    Time is running out. Soon there will be 100 years since my father was born, who fought from the first day. As a child, I did not know a family in which someone did not fight and a family in which war did not bring grief. We, the children of the Victors, are also leaving. For grandchildren, this is a distant story, like the Patriotic War of 1812. A story that many want to rewrite and rewrite. And they will rewrite, if they are allowed to.
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      Time is running out. Soon there will be 100 years since my father was born, who fought from day one. The Great Patriotic War ...
      1. Was mammoth 27 December 2019 15: 49 New
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        .Great Patriotic War...

        You're right. But, the father had to fight again. With the Hungarians, for the second time, in 11 years.
        Sorry, one negative came out instead of a plus.
        1. Aerodrome 27 December 2019 15: 50 New
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          Quote: Was Mammoth
          Quote: Aerodrome
          .Great Patriotic War...

          You're right. But, the father had to fight again. With the Hungarians, for the second time, in 11 years.
          Sorry, one negative came out instead of a plus.

          normal. the truth is true. the truth is that my neighbor, who didn’t finish the “forest brothers,” but didn’t, unfortunately, was not a front-line soldier. it happens like that. he was 19 years old. survived to 78. one medal. "demobilnuli" and all.
          1. Was mammoth 27 December 2019 16: 37 New
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            Quote: Aerodrome
            ... one medal. "demobilnuli" and all.

            I regret that I did not ask my father much about the war, but he himself did not like to talk, so when he met with fellow soldiers or saw something familiar on TV ....
            In kind I envy the Bashkirs, Kazakhs, Tatars, Turks in short. They have a shenzhere, if I'm not mistaken. The cultural tradition, however, is to remember the ancestors. We, Russians, sometimes, "Ivan, do not remember kinship." I think that not everyone on the patriotic website will just say the name, middle name of the grandfather and grandmother, not to mention the great one ... so as not to hang dogs on us? And the Germans, and Hungarians, and the Americans ....
            Putin, of course, well done! But just for the sake of what historical truth does plywood enclose the Mausoleum on Victory Day? Some of the young people do not know where the fascist banners were dumped.
            The father was not counted as leaving the encirclement from the border right up to Smolensk, although he came out on his own and brought people of "different stripes" with weapons, mostly with trophy ones.
  • sergo1914 27 December 2019 08: 27 New
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    Few people are interested in Ukraine. You can’t solve all the problems on it. Need a new enemy.
    1. sergo1914 27 December 2019 09: 10 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      Few people are interested in Ukraine. You can’t solve all the problems on it. Need a new enemy.


      I'll try to stop the flow of minuses.

      Politician, leader and fighter!
      Shears people like sheep!
    2. Nastia makarova 27 December 2019 09: 55 New
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      was she an enemy?
      1. sergo1914 27 December 2019 10: 31 New
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        was she an enemy?


        Unfriendly brother?
        1. Nastia makarova 27 December 2019 11: 33 New
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          yeah))) little brother without a king in his head, gouging))))
  • okunevich_rv 27 December 2019 08: 27 New
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    Everything is fine gentlemen, after the jackals bit the hand that saved them, Russia will no longer save them, the gap has already occurred. Now that the soil has been prepared, the saxo saxes will degrease them, and if they start kicking, they will probably use force. This is not the first time Europe has divided and robbed Poles.
    1. Aerodrome 27 December 2019 10: 05 New
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      All right gentlemen,

    2. Xenofont 27 December 2019 10: 18 New
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      And the krajina today, what is not an example for you? We save, guided by mysterious motives. And the sanctions are “terrible” to them, but here the business triumphs over politics and the sanctions are somehow forgotten. And how they bit, how they bit ...
  • BAI
    BAI 27 December 2019 08: 31 New
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    That is why the Kremlin considers any criticism of what is considered the Great Victory of Russia to be an attack on Russia itself.

    Well, at least for this our government can applaud.
    1. cniza 27 December 2019 09: 08 New
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      Only it's time to kick them harder and poke their shit with their nose.
  • Pavel57 27 December 2019 08: 32 New
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    It’s time for Putin to review Katyn.
  • Skarpzd 27 December 2019 08: 34 New
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    partly in all this garbage there is an indirect fault of the Soviet leadership. that is - for many years, in every way it was silent, the policy of the countries of Europe in the pre-war and military periods was not evaluated. did not give an assessment of the action of England, France. Hitler gained strength not without their help and. including Poland also participated in on the side of Germany. war is a separate song. and established there the future allies from their whole European soul. now it’s easy to judge, but then, it was very difficult for Stalin. reluctantly, both the Poles and the Hungarians, and the French, had to be accepted as winners. later, it was simply politically unprofitable to recall. to the CMEA and VD states about their grandfather in World War II.
  • BISMARCK94 27 December 2019 08: 35 New
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    Quote: Siberia 75
    Putin got angry at Poland

    This is not pissed off, so he giggled lightly at the dog.
    These Russophobes need for every lie in relation to the USSR-Russia, a muzzle on the asphalt to carry.

    Not enough asphalt)
  • 1976AG 27 December 2019 08: 37 New
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    "British journalists recall that although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago."
    No matter what the state is called, the people are the same, the one that paid the highest price for this victory, but some people don’t want to understand this.
    1. cniza 27 December 2019 09: 07 New
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      They hate for this, they will have to make them afraid and sit "under the bench."
  • Dynamic systems 27 December 2019 08: 38 New
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    It was necessary to specify the GDP as the islanders, and their ilk, the Americans raised a monster - Hitler's Germany.
    Weren't the royals zigging the "Fuhrer"?
    1. cniza 27 December 2019 09: 05 New
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      I think this will also be laid out with documentary evidence.
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    It seems that the period of ceremonies began to end with the west. Documents about Poland are just the beginning, but how many interesting (and dirty) archives are on the islanders who forever heat the heat with other hands ....
    I hope their time has come ...
    Once you started to beat, you need to finish, and not let off the steam ...
    1. 75 Sergey 27 December 2019 08: 54 New
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      Yes, they ssy in the eye - all God's dew.
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        Once you started to beat, you need to finish, and not let off the steam ...


        Yes, otherwise they will finish us off, there is no other way ...
  • 75 Sergey 27 December 2019 08: 53 New
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    And equating the Soviet Union’s nehren with the Nazis, although I like the GDP, but in his desire to be closer to the people (everyone wants you to be loved), he says the right things (he just does it differently) and in this case Poland did not allow the Red Army to protect Czechoslovakia (the country with one of the most powerful armies, Hitler did not have a chance then), well, it chopped off Czechoslovakia’s territory for this cause - the actions of the Nazi accomplice were like that.
  • 1536 27 December 2019 08: 59 New
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    Especially for the BBC and the queen, who began to forget, we inform that it was Great Britain, having signed an agreement with Hitler in Munich in 1938, and became the instigator of World War II, and then sent German troops to the USSR in 1941. It is strange that the British themselves did not participate in that “campaign”. Really strange, BBC?
    1. voyaka uh 27 December 2019 12: 10 New
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      "It is strange that the British themselves did not participate in that" campaign "////
      ----
      They were busy: they fought with Hitler one on one.
      And in 1940 they saved their country, defeating the Luftwaffe and defeating
      German surface fleet. And starting in the same 1940 regularly bomb
      industrial areas of Nazi Germany and the capital of Berlin.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 27 December 2019 23: 22 New
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        Ah, how bad, at first they fed and raised, and the child is ungrateful to its breadwinners and the Luftwaffe! laughing
  • cniza 27 December 2019 09: 01 New
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    British journalists recall that although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago.


    One wants to scream - "... and what do you know about the war? ..", and in our family - "joy with tears in our eyes" ...
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    Apparently, the archives about involvement in the outbreak of the Second World War in Britain have yet to be opened ...
    How then will the British BBC speak?
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      "Pour into the eyes - God's dew!" The usual reaction.
  • rusich 27 December 2019 09: 08 New
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    British journalists recall that although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago. This is our VICTORY. We paid dearly for her. Anglo-Saxons are not given to understand
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    HAM 27 December 2019 09: 26 New
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    Here alone Pykhto alludes to the fact that speech is directed only at anti-Semitism .... but, Grandfather clearly misses the fact that ONLY Jews and Russians don't forget their victims and their history. And the "civilized" West does not give a damn about its citizens destroyed by the Nazis ...
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    British journalists recall that although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago.
    "No one is forgotten and nothing is forgotten." Britain needs to remember this more than others.
  • K-50 27 December 2019 09: 28 New
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    although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago.

    Maybe because we, unlike the rest, fought to the end and won? Therefore, we have a reason for pride and sadness.
    Yes, our ancestors and the country of the USSR paid a huge, monstrous price and all the more glory for those who perished, who survived, but who won !!!
    If you compare how other countries fought for their freedom, then there is definitely no reason for pride. lol
    Maybe that's why they try not to remember, but to slander and sheathe the whole History. sad
    1. 1976AG 27 December 2019 09: 44 New
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      Quote: K-50
      although the USSR no longer exists, Russia continues to celebrate the event more than 70 years ago.

      Maybe because we, unlike the rest, fought to the end and won? Therefore, we have a reason for pride and sadness.
      Yes, our ancestors and the country of the USSR paid a huge, monstrous price and all the more glory for those who perished, who survived, but who won !!!
      If you compare how other countries fought for their freedom, then there is definitely no reason for pride. lol
      Maybe that's why they try not to remember, but to slander and sheathe the whole History. sad

      They simply have nothing to be proud of, but there are more than enough ambitions, only
      and it remains to water others with mud. Petty position.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 27 December 2019 23: 24 New
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        The usual position for such a shit is the first thief shouting "hold the thief!"
  • Zaurbek 27 December 2019 09: 58 New
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    It is necessary to rummage in Archives ... there still not that will emerge.
    In view of the creation of the Socialist Camp, many countries escaped reparations and punishment of the guilty ..... Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Croats ...
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    5-9 27 December 2019 10: 01 New
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    You need to understand that anti-Semitism in the West is taboo 80 lvl, a priori verybad. It was a question for the Western audience, if he accused the Poles of warming their feet in the guts of Ukrainian slaves or genocide twenty thousand Red Army soldiers, then "yes to all of us ... to eat!" And here is a serious, documented accusation, immediately supported by Jewish communities.

    And the Air Force should be called in all articles "state television of the British BBC monarchy" ...
  • Vitaly Tsymbal 27 December 2019 10: 10 New
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    I’m much more interested - not why NOW Putin was talking about Poland, and why Putin was silent about Poland BEFORE when the monuments to our great-grandfathers were demolished ???
    1. Gardamir 27 December 2019 10: 29 New
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      And now it’s not so much about Poland as in defense of the Jews. For some reason, many do not want to see this, like Putin suddenly became pro-Soviet. Wait a moment, it will come on May 9, again the Mausoleum is hung up, tricolors, a striped regiment and an almost complete absence of red color. The true color of that victory.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal 27 December 2019 11: 24 New
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        I agree with everything, except for the striped one as you called the Immortal Regiment ... and not only because I am one of the founders of this movement, but rather because of not understanding why we created this MOVEMENT - primarily to preserve the family - family memory, so that politicians, rewriting each person’s history, could not rewrite the history of the family name ... As for Putin’s last sayings, I was not outraged by the “protection of the Jews” - this is quite expected (my personal opinion is if it weren’t for the Holocaust , Europe would have long forgotten the truth about 2 MV), I really Adele Putin’s words that the war in Chechnya is the fault of Russia, and not of specific politicians and generals of that time — Yeltsin, Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Rykin, Grachev, etc. It turns out Russia is to blame, namely you and I ... And only Putin is the savior of Russia, as if he didn’t know that if Yeltsin hadn’t been transferred to power, the security forces (especially the army) would have demolished the oligarchs from Yeltsin and Chechnya.
        1. Gardamir 27 December 2019 12: 51 New
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          A good idea to save memory, but the implementation failed. The main color of that war is red. My father was awarded the Red Star, and that is my memory. And for all great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren, the Great Patriotic War, like the battle with Mamai, is a tradition of antiquity. What remains of that memory, even if the characters are overwritten by others.
          As for the Holocaust, from some recent times, people began to believe that it was not the Soviet people who suffered the most, but the Jews.
          Well, I agree with you about Chechnya, the current one is not responsible for anything, neither for the past, nor for the future.
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal 27 December 2019 13: 25 New
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            I, too, when I tell the kids about the Great Patriotic War, point out that the color of the Great Victory of 1945 is red, and the symbol of the Great Victory is not the St. George ribbon, but the Red Banner on the Reichstag. Creating the "Immortal Regiment" (there were more than 150 representatives from all regions of the Russian Federation) we specifically decided: the Victory symbol is the red Banner, the St. George ribbon (not the Soviet Guard ribbon) is a symbol of the connection of generations of Russian soldiers from ancient times. It would be correct on May 9 to attach not the St. George ribbon, but red (with a sickle and a hammer), but let it be St. George on the portraits - on May 9, portraits of not only WWII participants, but also of those who died in Afghanistan and Chechnya, are already being taken out. Unfortunately, and you are right, our government does not like red color ....
            But I don’t agree with you about the results of the Immortal Regiment movement. I go to schools and ask, but do you know your ancestor, a participant in the Second World War? It is very nice to hear what they know and remember, and in the 90s and early 2000s, these guys could be counted on the fingers. So it was not in vain that we created this movement - not only the memory of the ancestors was restored in the minds of youth, but also the pride that their ancestors fought and gave their lives for a just cause
  • rotmistr60 27 December 2019 10: 10 New
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    Who better than the British, who themselves adored Hitler and made a lot of efforts to push him east to try to somehow protect the Poles and once again prokarkat at the Russian president. The hand washes the hand and the raven does not peck out the crow.
  • Nikolaevich I 27 December 2019 10: 29 New
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    Trying to find out why Putin got angry .... And there is nothing for the Poles to pretend to be "radishes"! !
  • Horon 27 December 2019 10: 39 New
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    You must not apologize in politics! As soon as the politician begins to ask for forgiveness (no matter what), he very quickly becomes the author of memoirs or the victim of a coup. Our leaders have allowed themselves such stupidity and stones for weakness will now pour in for decades! The losers apologize in politics!
  • Bessarab 27 December 2019 10: 51 New
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    First, Putin “forgot” to add that if the Anschluss of Austria and part of Czechoslovakia were annexed “by agreement” of England, France and all other players without Czech resistance (that is, by peaceful means), then the Poles committed open aggression without consent "by force of arms capturing the Cieszyn region of Czechoslovakia. What really can be called the beginning of World War 2.
    Secondly, the idea of ​​evicting Jews from Europe to Africa (or rather Palestine) in those years was in the vastness of Europe, and its main generators were Zionists, who set out to create their own national state in the historical homeland of all Jews, which they achieved. True, the British, whose colony was Palestine, did not want to give it back and were bidding. Zionists were offered different territories. And Hitler was a very important player in this game, for Germany was rapidly recovering its potential with the money of Zionist bankers.
  • Tektor 27 December 2019 11: 22 New
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    Nobody puts the responsibility for unleashing WWII on Poland. Poland is represented in its true light - the jackal of Europe. That's all.
    The main thing that bothers: an absolute analogy of Poland’s behavior before WWII and now ... That is Poles can accurately repeat that plot. Only so far no one has told them about this.
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    1. Captain45 27 December 2019 13: 23 New
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      Because according to Forbes, 5 Russian oligarchs (among Putin’s friends) earned more in 2019 than the rest of the country's population could put off .. (and this is only the 5 richest)

      Speaking of birds, according to the same Forbes magazine, Russian citizens in only three days of "Black Friday" from November 29 to December 1, 2019. spent on the purchase of various goods in online stores 22,3 billion rubles. Not weak, right? A poor Russia is being purchased .... on a "rainy day" and on "black Friday" lol
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        I can’t say whether it is weak or not .. Everything is known in comparison ..
        But even if we assume that 22 million. people of our country spent on the mega-sale for 1 thousand rubles .. I do not think that it will pull on some grand event ..
        But the entire population of the country, precisely in comparison with 5 people .. It's hard not to think about it ..
  • Disorder 27 December 2019 11: 50 New
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    The brazen ones stirred. They were afraid that they would fly for Munich.
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    It would be worthwhile to show at the same time how the Nazis and the small party of Hitler even before the war supported and promoted to power, that's why it all started, the rest is all a consequence of this ...
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    What is there to think, we will hold a referendum in the RF Armed Forces of the RF Armed Forces at the long-awaited request of the Poles to join their mother in Russia and in spite of the FSA and Euro .. we will join Poland .... IMHO (4 ban?).
  • Gennady Fomkin 27 December 2019 14: 46 New
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    laughing Now this is the news of the day laughing Law 447, Justice for Survivors, passed by the US Congress and signed by Donald Trump, could cost Poland its historical reputation and billions of dollars of compensation to Holocaust victims

    The United States will force Poland to pay for the Holocaust.

    U.S. President Donald Trump signed Congressional Law 447 or JUST (Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today), which provides for the return of property to Holocaust victims or their heirs.

    Restitution for heirs of Holocaust victims

    According to the leader of the Polish party “Union of Real Politics” Stanislav Mikhalkevich, the amount referred to in “Justice for the Survivors” can reach $ 300 billion.

    May 9, 2018 Poland finally lost the Second World War ... The Poles must now pay the Jews $ 300 billion for the fact that they were killed by the Germans, "
    - Mikhalkevich does not hide his indignation.

    According to the authors of the bill, including 57 US senators from the Republican and Democratic parties, Poland remains the only European state that has not adopted a comprehensive national program for restitution of property to Holocaust victims or payment of material compensation for lost private property.

    At the same time, Poland is one of the 46 states that signed the Terezin Declaration on the Restitution of Property to Holocaust Victims in 2009.
  • Gennady Fomkin 27 December 2019 14: 49 New
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    The main thing is that this is only the beginning. Soon a bullet will start from all the trunks, along (d) the tracks, and not only, it will not seem a little, we have, so to speak, a lot of things in the annals, Vladimir Vladimirovich transparently hinted so. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 27 December 2019 14: 51 New
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    Bravery and stupidity. Motto of Poland laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 27 December 2019 14: 53 New
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    The Soviet Union of Lenin and Stalin consistently sought to overthrow the Versailles order in Europe
    laughing laughing
    you begin to affirm in the thought that this picture is not pure Polish schizophrenia, but the way of thinking of a considerable number of Poles.
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  • faterdom 28 December 2019 01: 03 New
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    Well, he called one of the long-dead Poles a pig ... But many recognized themselves, and not only the Poles. And offended for some reason. On your own guesses.
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    Britain is no less guilty at the beginning of WWII
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    Another question: we are considered the instigators of WWII along with Hitler. Why did not France and England declare war on September 17, 1939 and after?

    Trotsky believed that Stalin was always afraid of Hitler, but after the purges in the state apparatus more than usual. That is, destroying all military leaders, the Kremlin oligarchy even lost a sense of self-preservation - sobering began to come after the occupation of Prague and the German demands on Poland