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The day before, the Russian president discussed with the Prime Minister of Italy (among other things) the situation in Libya. Vladimir Putin and Giuseppe Conte agreed that bloodshed should be stopped in Libya and a political dialogue should be established in the country.


Meanwhile, in Libya itself, the troops of Marshal Khalifa Haftar continue to make attempts to take control of the country's capital - the city of Tripoli. The Government of Faiz Saraj makes it clear that without foreign military assistance it will not cope. As you know, Ankara is ready to provide such assistance.

On the eve of the government of Saraj (one of the at least three "governments" of Libya), a direct appeal was received to Ankara with a request for military assistance. The legal base of the Turkish military presence in Libya is the memorandum on military cooperation that was concluded between Erdogan and Saraj at the end of November this year. In Turkey, the memorandum was approved a few days ago - on December 21. Now the Turkish parliament must ratify the agreement. According to the President of Turkey, this may happen on January 8 or 9.

It is reported that Turkey is going to send about 500 of its troops to Libya at the first stage. We are talking about representatives of the special forces who are going to take control of the key facilities of Tripoli, as well as oil fields in the area.

According to some reports, Saraj promised Erdogan the transfer of some oil fields in fact under the complete control of Turkey.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 December 2019 06: 12 New
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    500 Turkish soldiers, even special forces? Not much. In my opinion, more of a symbolic gesture. The numbers and armaments are not comparable. Face Russian PMCs with Turkish special forces? Who came up with this? Not otherwise, the British ...
    1. Karaul73
      Karaul73 27 December 2019 07: 31 New
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      Do you need Russians there? There is a conflict brewing worse than the Syrian. How will the Defense Ministry make excuses for the deaths of Russian soldiers?
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 27 December 2019 07: 38 New
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        Quote: Sentry73
        make excuses for the deaths of Russian soldiers

        Soldiers do not serve in PMCs. These are hired specialists. They know what they are doing and what they are risking. Yes, only, I think, they will not collide. Well, no reason ...
        1. Karaul73
          Karaul73 27 December 2019 18: 01 New
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          And the military, in your opinion, do not know what the risks are. The concept of homeland and the protection of national interests have already been canceled?
          1. Recon
            Recon 27 December 2019 20: 01 New
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            Homeland is where birches grow. And abroad, the guys do their job and get paid for it. What musicians, what MO.
      2. Sergey1987
        Sergey1987 27 December 2019 11: 21 New
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        Quote: Sentry73
        Do you need Russians there?

        Are they there?
        Quote: Sentry73
        There is a conflict brewing worse than the Syrian.

        Is that how you defined it?
        1. Karaul73
          Karaul73 27 December 2019 16: 30 New
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          And they are not anywhere !!!
          Machine guns fire themselves, tanks drive themselves, oil itself is guarded.
          1. Sergey1987
            Sergey1987 28 December 2019 10: 17 New
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            Quote: Sentry73
            And they are not anywhere !!!
            Machine guns fire themselves, tanks drive themselves, oil itself is guarded.

            Machine guns shoot and tanks drive without PMCs. If there is confirmed evidence of their presence in Mozambique, the Central African Republic and Sudan, then this is one thing, but there is no confirmation that they are in Libya. Although if this is confirmed, I will not be surprised.
    2. Livonetc
      Livonetc 27 December 2019 07: 35 New
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      Neither PMCs, nor Turkish special forces will collide with their foreheads, at least intentionally.
      Everyone will disassemble their pieces and burrow securely into the ground.
      Assistance to Turkey, in fact, will be a struggle for a piece of oil pie.
      That is, no lyrics, only business.
      1. bar
        bar 27 December 2019 08: 56 New
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        Assistance to Turkey, in fact, will be a struggle for a piece of oil pie.
        That is, no lyrics, only business.

        Given that Haftar now has the main oil in Libya, Turkey has no business there. It’s just that Erdogan is once again trying to declare Turkey as a world power that rules the Middle East. Just politics ...
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 27 December 2019 11: 56 New
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          Quote: bar
          It’s just that Erdogan is once again trying to declare Turkey as a world power that rules the Middle East. Just politics ...

          hi
          Somewhere, yes. After the publication of US and Israeli plans for Turkey, Erdogan with even more zeal is trying to prove to the world and "opponents" that he is still "oh-go-go" and Turkey is not just a regional power, but a leader in the BV and northern Africa. It is possible to understand his desires, but for a long time to be "out of pocket" is destructive for Turkey and for the "Sultan" himself.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 27 December 2019 12: 53 New
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            There is no access to the Mediterranean Sea on the map of Kurdistan you are planning, part of which is the province of Idlib, which, by a strange coincidence, the Turks and mattresses want to keep bearded. Without this corridor, Kurdistan will constitute an isolated enclave sandwiched by adjoining states from all sides, which will doom it to exist in a dead economy, which in turn leads to the nullification of the interests of the Anglo-Saxons. But in general, yes, the idea of ​​restructuring B. Vostok according to the patterns of the Americans and the British has existed for more than 100 years and is being implemented with some adjustments. Here is a BV map from 1919, whatever they would like to see it.
            And yet, yes, the cries of the mattresses about Ankara’s acquisition of the S-400 speaks in favor of the fact that they have intentions to cut this Turkish pie in the foreseeable future. hi
          2. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 27 December 2019 18: 24 New
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            In the meantime, today Turkey presented its electric cars, a crossover and a sedan (not concepts, but the final models), which will be serially let in in the city of Bursa from 2022. On a single charge of 500 km, a full charge time of 30 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qgYWKA3BEM (from 32 min.)
      2. maidan.izrailovich
        maidan.izrailovich 27 December 2019 09: 15 New
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        Everyone will disassemble their pieces and burrow securely into the ground.

        It looks like it.
        It is possible that the case goes to the partition of Libya. With further legalization (international recognition) of torn pieces.
        Libya is a rather motley country. And there is no single people there. Yes, and the people as such there the cat cried. Less than in little Syria. And the territory is 16th in the world.
        I suspect that Western countries want to make their enclaves there.
    3. mammadov teymur
      mammadov teymur 27 December 2019 07: 45 New
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      not counting those who are already there, yes, the figure is 500 for the formal
    4. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 27 December 2019 08: 06 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Face Russian PMCs with Turkish special forces?

      In fact, the presence of Russian PMCs in Libya is minimal, only at the level of protection for our oil workers. For havtor officially Egypt fit in. This is the real axis of the confrontation, Egypt-Turkey. And what position to take Russia is still a big question.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 27 December 2019 10: 06 New
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        The difficult rebus is twisted. It is clear that Erdogan has long been eager for Arab oil. negative But he already in Syria should understand that his capabilities in such matters are limited. If he is satisfied with getting a “donut hole”, then he dares to send a military contingent to Libya.
        1. Siberia 75
          Siberia 75 27 December 2019 10: 10 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          But he already in Syria should understand that his capabilities in such matters are limited.

          In fact of the matter. So far, Erdogan is chatting more than he is doing. He quarreled with everyone with whom he could, and now he needs some sort of outwardly political victory.
          1. protoss
            protoss 27 December 2019 14: 16 New
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            Quote: Siberia 75
            So far, Erdogan is chatting more than he is doing.

            Well, so far he has "blabbed" several districts in Syria, oporniks all over Iraqi Kurdistan and bases in Qatar and Somalia.
    5. Sergey1987
      Sergey1987 27 December 2019 11: 20 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Face Russian PMCs with Turkish special forces? Who came up with this? Not otherwise, the British ...

      These are just rumors, the facts that our PMCs are not there.
    6. g1v2
      g1v2 27 December 2019 14: 14 New
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      Russian PMCs are a way to explain defeats. Until now, there have not been any intelligible videos confirming our participation in the database, rather than training. But the Egyptian and Emirate units are there and it is with them that the Turks will have to fight. Maybe the French special forces will not get in touch with the Turkish, but Marshal As Sisi can easily move even a division to help Haftar. Emirates minimize their participation in the war in Yemen, but intensify in Libya. They will also protect their investments in Haftar.
      Thc Turks get into a serious batch against the UAE and Egypt. Which will be assisted by intelligence, training, etc. France and Israel. But for us it’s great. The more actively the Sultan breaks into Libya, the easier it will be to negotiate with him in Syria.
  2. raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 27 December 2019 06: 13 New
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    “All for garlic” - there is an official invitation, there is a mutual agreement, there is a mutual benefit.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 27 December 2019 06: 18 New
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      Quote: raki-uzo
      “All for garlic” - there is an official invitation, there is a mutual agreement, there is a mutual benefit.

      Just one in one invitation to Russia to Syria!
      Now how can our diplomats deal with these?
      Face Russian PMCs with Turkish special forces?

      Here are the American PMCs, are these mercenaries?
      Are Wagnerites an analogue of the French foreign (officially state) legion?
      1. Tzar
        Tzar 27 December 2019 10: 17 New
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        Just one in one invitation to Russia to Syria!

        Not really one to one. Assad ruled in Syria before the war, and Assad also invited him. And no interim governments were created, not counting clowns in London / Istanbul. So the legitimacy of the invitation here is one hundred percent.
        In Libya, Saraj was actually put into power by a conglomerate of bandits who overthrew the legitimate ruler of Gaddafi. And Haftar with his people are not angels either.
        So the diplomats will be where to stretch.
        1. protoss
          protoss 27 December 2019 14: 28 New
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          Quote: Tzar
          overthrown the legal ruler of Gaddafi

          it’s funny to read about the legitimacy of all these characters with your notions of legality.
          1. Tzar
            Tzar 27 December 2019 16: 40 New
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            And what are your concepts of the rule of law? A dynasty ruling from the beginning of time? winked
            1. protoss
              protoss 28 December 2019 10: 45 New
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              when you finish school as a lawyer, please don’t go, we have trouble in this area, do not aggravate it.
              1. Tzar
                Tzar 28 December 2019 11: 46 New
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                It seems that you can’t pass the final exam at the trolling school, train further.
        2. no one
          no one 27 December 2019 15: 23 New
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          Ie Gaddafi who came to power through a military coup, a legitimate ruler, Assad who inherited power as well, but these not? Some kind of perverse concept of legal authority
          1. Tzar
            Tzar 27 December 2019 16: 37 New
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            From the point of view of international organizations and the views of the overwhelming majority of the people within Libya itself - yes, it was legal. States with an impeccable system of change of power, suitable for the idealized concept of law, practically do not exist, especially in Africa.
            1. no one
              no one 27 December 2019 16: 58 New
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              Elections held or a poll?
              1. Tzar
                Tzar 27 December 2019 18: 29 New
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                The UN does not hold elections. And the population under its social policy. privileges are not particularly outraged.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 27 December 2019 06: 17 New
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    Named the number of military that Turkey is going to send to Libya in the first stage

    And Baba Yaga is already against it! And this is a rare case when I agree with her.
    All outsiders in the GARDEN, or where far away, let them decide for themselves how to be, how to restore the country.
  4. pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 27 December 2019 06: 19 New
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    Haftar is a US citizen who worked for the CIA (the elapsed time is hardly appropriate here). Nobody called this striped man to Libya. The legitimate government of Saraj, recognized by the international community and the UN, officially invited Turkey to help establish constitutional order in Libya in strict accordance with international law. And Haftaru can only say one thing: Yankees, go home!
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 27 December 2019 06: 25 New
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      Quote: pru-pavel
      And Haftaru can only say one thing: Yankees, go home!

      Could you then explain to me why Russia (and not only one) helps the Havtor?
      I personally have no answer.
      Maybe Putin again put on the "right" horse?
      1. pru-pavel
        pru-pavel 27 December 2019 06: 37 New
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        This is a tricky mnogohodovka, first we’ll lull the attention of the Yankees, and then at the most appropriate moment we will throw them off Libya in full accordance with the main principles of Judo (soft defeats hard, use the strength of the opponent against him, water defeats the stone), the decisive blow will be dealt with precisely, when necessary, in the troops all the engines are already warmed up and the trunks are polished to a shine for this, everyone is waiting for the order
        1. Connor MacLeod
          Connor MacLeod 27 December 2019 20: 21 New
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          Quote: pru-pavel
          This is a tricky mnogogodovka, first we will lull the attention of the Yankees, and then at the most appropriate moment we will throw them off Libya in full accordance with the main principles of Judo (soft defeats hard, use the strength of the enemy against him, water defeats the stone), the decisive blow will be dealt with surgically exactly when necessary, in the troops all the engines are already warmed up and the trunks are polished to a shine for this, everyone is waiting for the order

          You burn! drinks
      2. mammadov teymur
        mammadov teymur 27 December 2019 07: 48 New
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        oil gas and the passage of warships into Syria
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 27 December 2019 07: 05 New
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      Quote: pru-pavel
      Haftar is a US citizen who worked for the CIA (the elapsed time is hardly appropriate here)

      Yeah. That is why Saraj called Kadyrov on December 20th.
      And the Turkish military delegation flew to Russia on December 23 to also discuss the US citizenship of Haftar.
    3. D16
      D16 27 December 2019 08: 09 New
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      Haftar is a US citizen who worked for the CIA (the elapsed time is hardly appropriate here).

      At the age of Haftar, it's time to think about the soul. Despite the conflict with Kadaffi, he wants to return to power one of his relatives, and this, in my opinion, is the best option to play back and unite Libya.
      Nobody called this striped man to Libya.

      So just grandfather came from America and out of the blue conquered half the kingdom laughing
      Legitimate Government of Saraj

      In fact, it is a representation of Muslim brothers. When they were demolished in Egypt, no one became particularly upset.
      recognized by the international community and the UN

      Recognized by those who destroyed the legitimate government of Libya and robbed the country?
      formally invited Turkey to help establish constitutional order in Libya in strict accordance with international law

      So no one is against it. Got a tug, don't say no horse laughing . Is Senka a hat? The entry into Libyan territory of dressed-up ragged people from the Idlib region (and they will be the ones to fight there) is to the benefit of the truly legitimate Assad government. This is already noticeable during the offensive. Well, bury these Muslim revolutionaries on the other side of the Mediterranean Sea. Great difference.
      And Haftaru can only say one thing: Yankees, go home!

      In this case, it is more appropriate to quote Hillary: "Fuck the EU!"
    4. Xenofont
      Xenofont 27 December 2019 10: 30 New
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      And why is this "legitimate government" gathered under the wing of all the Igiloids and Alkaids? Maybe the UN doesn’t notice, because it looks through the eyes of "progressive humanity"?
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 December 2019 06: 58 New
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    According to some reports, Saraj promised Erdogan transfer of some oil field facilities actually under the complete control of Turkey.

    Of course, Erdogan has a certain interest in this issue. And I will send, I believe, not 500 servicemen, but much more. To whom war, and to whom simply business.
  6. tarakan
    tarakan 27 December 2019 07: 03 New
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    Americans opened fashion, the capture of towers, that’s what the Turks got the better of, and I kept thinking, why the heck Americans are throwing bases in Syria, so where is the tower there and the base
  7. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 27 December 2019 07: 14 New
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    How would the Turks not regret it!
  8. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 December 2019 07: 18 New
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    And when will they start bombing, how will Turkey respond? This is not the United States; they do not have an air base there.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 27 December 2019 18: 36 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      And when will they start bombing, how will Turkey respond?

      it’s not so simple. On the side of Haftar, both aviation and artillery and Egypt used their Air Force. We don’t know much. The Turkish General Staff will not throw special forces into the heat of it for the training of which it takes many years and money.
      Maybe this is a step showing intentions. Mol is officially our soldiers there and if that with them it will be a point of no return and Turkey will use all its strength
      Yes, tell Greece there is, but Greece does not dare to abruptly attack the Turkish Navy, which will be involved. These are NATO advantages for Turkey.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 27 December 2019 18: 47 New
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        The question is what is the strength of the Turks? The only option is an analogue of our operation in Syria. With airbase.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 27 December 2019 19: 04 New
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          The question is what is the strength of the Turks? The only option is an analogue of our operation in Syria. With airbase.

          depending on what the task is.
          The Russian Federation had other tasks. To protect Assad, and then return all other lands that could be returned. Turkey does not have such a task according to the information that we own. It is necessary that Saraj not lose Tripoli and the Turks with their physical official presence can be an obstacle Hafftaru: It is clear that as the Americans stood in Syria, the more powerful Turkish group could not move forward.
          Infa is not enough. For example, I still do not understand how Italy is physically involved there. Everyone says Italy against Haftar, but what exactly does Italy do?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 27 December 2019 19: 10 New
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            They train, deliver .... what else can they do? Share intelligence.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 27 December 2019 19: 13 New
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              Quote: Zaurbek
              They train, deliver .... what else can they do? Share intelligence.

              but there is no specifics, who is trained in what quantity, what are they supplying? All we see is equipment supplied by Turkey and used UAVs, fighters trained or transported by Turkey. Information that Turkey was offered $ 2000 a month to the fighters from Idlib for continuing the war in Libya. But nothing concrete in Italy came across. (I will be glad if you share)
              Well, Qatar with its finances.
  9. Avior
    Avior 27 December 2019 07: 20 New
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    . On the eve of the government of Faraj (one of at least three "governments" of Libya)

    Only here is the legitimate, officially universally recognized by most countries, including Russia, by the way, and the UN as an organization, this is the Farad government
  10. Semurg
    Semurg 27 December 2019 07: 44 New
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    Generalissimo Havtor is an interesting person. Companion of Gaddafi, studied in the USSR. Headed the expeditionary force in Chad, was defeated and captured. He became an opponent of Gaddafi, received American citizenship. He participated in the civil war in Libya against Gaddafi, now he is fighting and seems to promise to make Gaddafi’s son or daughter rulers of Libya. Accepted by the governments of France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia, in general, lived a vibrant life with sharp zigzags.
    1. pru-pavel
      pru-pavel 27 December 2019 08: 47 New
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      You know a lot about him. But they didn’t selectively see that he was a US citizen and a CIA officer
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 27 December 2019 09: 07 New
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        Well, there is an opinion that in Chad he bought a villa and a larger salary, asking for the latest weapons from Gaddafi, with the subsequent transfer to the Americans in good condition. The same updated Mi-24 in a fully complete and in flight condition was precisely what Haftar had given them if that.
  11. Artur Loginov
    Artur Loginov 27 December 2019 07: 50 New
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    "In order for you to own a country, you need to fight a war.
    To fight a war, you need to keep warriors.
    To keep warriors, you need to have money.
    To have money, the people must be rich.
    For the people to be rich, the sultan must be wise. "
    Lullaby of the XNUMXth century.
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  13. Red
    Red 27 December 2019 09: 24 New
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    In 2015, when ISIS was near Damascus, Assad called us to turn the tide. Today, the marshal’s troops are on the outskirts of Tripoli and the Libyan government has officially requested assistance from the Turks. Interestingly, we will have a copycat and will he be able to turn the situation around?
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 December 2019 09: 57 New
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    Saraj promised Erdogan the transfer of some oil fields in fact under the complete control of Turkey
    When it is running out, those who are supported by the West are ready to sell the rest of the country for military assistance. But will it help to rectify the situation? Something tells us that this is unlikely, and 500 Turkish troops will obviously not be able to provide effective assistance. Or does Saranj have the hope that the enemy will not attack where the Turks will be?
  15. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 27 December 2019 12: 48 New
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    Turkey cannot stand such wide steps ... But it will climb. Maybe get bogged down.
  16. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 27 December 2019 12: 48 New
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    Before the arrival of the Turks must be done to the maximum.
  17. Stakan-m
    Stakan-m 27 December 2019 20: 08 New
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    Well, let the Turks try .. We need a respite in Russia! hi
  18. Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 28 December 2019 12: 49 New
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    And in my opinion, all of this scenario was conceived precisely for GDP. Somewhere similar to Syria. Erdogan screams out loud, Russian PMCs are in Libya and support the Havtor. And he publicly sets up an ultimatum of the Russian Federation on the withdrawal of PMCs of the Russian Federation within 24 hours, otherwise he warns of serious consequences (indicative of Saraj), like we will protect you from the Russians, we (TR-RF) have good relations, GDP will not allow PMCs to face us . And with this, the GDP, setting fire to the Havtor on provocations, pushes Saraj (out of fear not to clash with the Russians) to legally invite the Turkish troops, protect and control the oil fields. What is needed GDP. The main thing is that someone from the EU would not do it. And then, control and marketing through Erdogan, over the Libyan deposits. 500 soldiers, this means that they know that they will not collide. The main thing is to take control first. Erdogan will not go against GDP, he only relies on him, and spins on everyone, on the EU, USA and NATO !!! In the end, everything will become clear.