Poland responded to Zakharova’s words about Polish practice of interpreting history and intervening in politics


Poland demonstrates a reaction to the words of the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, regarding bilateral relations. Maria Zakharova noted that relations between Moscow and Warsaw remain very difficult due to the position of the Polish authorities, which have been trying for many years to put the past at the forefront of today's contacts.


Maria Zakharova recalled that, even before his visit to Poland in 2009, Vladimir Putin called on the Polish authorities to refuse to constantly discuss issues related to the events of the last century in relation to today's relations. But the Polish authorities did not refuse such a policy towards Russia. According to the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Warsaw, for some reason, chooses such a path in which it infinitely makes its future and the future of its neighbors dependent on interpretations and reading of the historical context.

An example of this is Poland’s support for a resolution of the European Parliament, in which (resolution) of the blame for the outbreak of World War II is virtually equally placed on Nazi Germany and the USSR.

With this approach, as Maria Zakharova noted, Poland makes it impossible to develop relations.

The Polish press said that this statement by the official representative of the Foreign Ministry "lies in the plane of the rhetoric that the Russian president has asked in recent days." Rhetoric was called "anti-Polish." That is, the "logic" of Warsaw and the Polish media is as follows: Poland can afford to throw arrows at Russia, based on the historical context. As soon as Russia raises the question of historical realities, it is characterized as “anti-Polish” rhetoric.

Against this background, the Polish and, notably, the Ukrainian blogosphere erupted in angry notes that, it turns out, history is distorting Moscow. Without citing any counterarguments (although what counterarguments can be used against archival materials ...) to Vladimir Putin’s words about Polish aiding Nazi Germany in the pre-war period, the Polish “activists” began with zeal worthy of better use to post photos with Molotov and Ribbentrop. As if Russia still does not recognize the existence of that treaty. An army of pro-American trolls in Poland and Ukraine besieges Twitter and Facebook, trying again and again to blame the outbreak of World War II on the USSR.

One of the posts of the Polish "expert" (Adam Eberhardt) on Twitter:

Putin decided to play with more stringent allegations of anti-Semitism in a historical dispute with Poland, especially in the face of events in honor of the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, to which he will go to Israel. However, the effectiveness of Russian historical propaganda is limited as a result of its ostentatious restalinization for many years.


Restalinization in Russia at the official level? In Russia itself, I would like to get an answer: in what place did the Polish “specialist” see this.

Such obvious irritation and the working out of “cookies” by Polish “activists” suggests that both Putin and Zakharova in their own words about Poland touched Polish ambitions “for the living” - they touched the historical truth that they are trying to hush up in Warsaw.
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    1. Hunter 2 26 December 2019 08: 48 New
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      ... They called the position anti-Polish (s). Yes, the Poles simply cherish Russophobia, and in response to "us for what."
      It’s just marveling how persistent the Polish authorities, the Polish nationalists and the Polish media are raising Polyakofobov in the Russians! Well, then do not be offended ...
      1. cniza 26 December 2019 08: 58 New
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        Quote: Hunter 2
        .. Well, then do not be offended ...


        We entered a new row of rakes and began dancing. yes
        1. Hunter 2 26 December 2019 09: 10 New
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          No Victor, they’re like a hut on chicken legs, they took a position to whom It is necessary (at the moment to the USA) - Having bent backwards ... their history does not teach anything. The past choice of a similar position (towards Germany) ended tragically for them ...
          1. cniza 26 December 2019 09: 12 New
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            Ooooh, how many of their huts were they taking for firewood? lol
            1. Thrall 26 December 2019 09: 26 New
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              If they started kicking Poland at a high state level, can it be time to ban Russian officials themselves from getting a "Pole card", as has been done in Belarus for a long time?
              1. Tatyana 26 December 2019 11: 12 New
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                Quote: Thrall
                If they started kicking Poland at a high state level, can it be time to ban Russian officials themselves from getting a "Pole card", as has been done in Belarus for a long time?
                And not only this must be done!
                In the Russian Federation, as the successor to the USSR, political international problems, both external and internal, from the time of the so-called Gorbachev "new thinking" and pro-American "Yeltsinism" has accumulated, as they say, to the heap! To rake and rake these problems - Russia may not even have enough time before TMV to win! Namely.

                At the same time, it would be good if Putin would also intelligently refuse to fabricate a lie fabricated by Gorbachev / Yakovlev against the USSR in the “Katyn case”. And so that the truth about Katyn was also heard by the Poles in Poland and in the world.

                Moreover. Great Britain should return to Russia 40 tons of Soviet gold, which Poland remained owed to the USSR!

                Enough for the Russian authorities to continue to toil about the hunchbacked foolishness called the perestroika-hunchbacked "new thinking"! This has already fallen to the Russians not just in political losses with the demolition of the monuments to 600 thousand of the dead Soviet soldiers-liberators of Poland from Nazism in Germany, but it also resulted in tens of tons of Russian gold stolen by the West from Russia!

                Myths of the Copper. Published: November 11, 2015.


                Victor Ilyukhin. The truth about Katyn. Published: February 3, 2014.
            2. hydrox 26 December 2019 09: 27 New
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              Actually, it costs us nothing to make out this smelly pigsty and again (this behavior of the pshek just pushes for such an outcome).
              Churchill is right: the only but painfully long-lived hyena in Europe, not sitting in an aviary and not isolated from communicating with people ..
              1. figwam 26 December 2019 11: 11 New
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                Quote: hydrox
                long-living hyena in Europe, not sitting in an aviary and not isolated from communication with people ..

                The Americans released the hyena from the enclosure, and to whom is it now driven?
        2. Tatyana 26 December 2019 09: 57 New
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          According to the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Warsaw, for some reason, chooses such a path in which it infinitely makes its future and the future of its neighbors dependent on interpretations and reading of the historical context.
          Yes, all these reasons lie on the surface. Just as there was an official pre-war "Great Great" Poland with a thoroughly mentally mentally deranged Russophobe Pilsudski headed, according to Churchill, a "hyena of Europe", so in the post-Soviet era it revives!
          Quote: Hunter 2 (Alexey)
          It’s just marveling how persistent the Polish authorities, Polish nationalists and the Polish media are raising Polyakofobov in the Russians! Well, then do not be offended.
          Well, Russians are still far from polyacophobia, but the historical need for the revival of the peoples of the USSR / Russian Federation of Russian and Russian self-awareness clearly arises! Moreover, the Russian authorities are politically late in the international arena in this regard! Namely.

          And with the falsified Gorbachev "Katyn affair", as well as with the forged memorial of the Poles in Katyn, allegedly shot by parts of the NKVD, it’s time for the Russian authorities to REALLY finish!
          And then the People’s Bank of Poland repatriated from London 100 tons of gold, among which 40 tons belong to Russia. Namely.

          It is known that in 1939 the Polish government, saving its gold reserves from Germany, transported precious bullion to the UK.
          According to experts, today Warsaw owns only 60 tons of gold stored in London vaults. However, the UK intends to transfer to Poland 40 tons of gold more than it should! And, of course, not from the bounty of the United Kingdom itself.
          It's just that these 100 tons also include the gold that belonged to the USSR. Namely.

          In 1941, an agreement was signed between Warsaw and Moscow, according to which the USSR undertakes to lend to the emigrant government of Poland, and it, in turn, repay the debt due to gold. But the contract was fulfilled only by one of the parties - the USSR.
          Moreover, the Polish "borrowers" - the self-proclaimed Polish government in exile - motivated their refusal to pay the USSR / RF bills precisely because of the Katyn casesupporting the version of the Nazis that the NKVD officers were “guilty” of the execution of Polish officers in the Smolensk region.

          Now, after so many years, Warsaw decided to take the gold, preferring not to recall that 40 tons of the precious metal should be transferred to Russia, as the successor to the USSR.

          But the Russian authorities still can not "swing" and announce the TRUTH about the Katyn falsification by Goebbels and the Poles.

          See in detail the article “Great Britain and Poland decided to steal Russian gold” dated 12.12.2019 -
          https://www.readto.ru/?utm_source=pe&utm_medium=lentainform&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpolitexpert.net%2F176529-velikobritaniya-i-polsha-reshili-pokhitit-rossiiskoe-zoloto%3Futm_medium%3Dreferral%26utm_source%3Dlentainform%26utm_campaign%3Dpolitexpert.net%26utm_term%3D1280542%26utm_content%3D8215850
          1. Thrall 26 December 2019 10: 21 New
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            But aren't legs growing that the Anglo-Saxons are breaking the wave about the allegedly sent to Poland 100 tons of gold from the Trump JUST law on the return of property of Holocaust victims signed in 2018? The British are now voluntarily returning gold to no one. Australia and Venezuela confirm this.
            1. Tatyana 26 December 2019 10: 35 New
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              Quote: Thrall
              But aren't legs growing that the Anglo-Saxons are breaking the wave about the allegedly sent to Poland 100 tons of gold from the Trump JUST law on the return of property of Holocaust victims signed in 2018? The British are now voluntarily returning gold to no one. Australia and Venezuela confirm this.

              Yes, it’s clear where the feet of modern official Poland come from!
              The main thing is that these "legs" in the official policy of Polish national-colonialism again GROW and "swell"!
    2. knn54 26 December 2019 09: 13 New
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      And how else to create and maintain the inviolability of myths.
      1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 10: 25 New
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        Something I'm completely confused after our statements ...
        So is it that Poland, together with Hitler, attacked the Soviet Union in the 39th?
        Or did the Soviet Union attack with Poland late with Hitler for a week and a half?
        1. tihonmarine 26 December 2019 11: 23 New
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          Quote: Nkv3
          Something I'm completely confused after our statements ...
          So is it that Poland, together with Hitler, attacked the Soviet Union in the 39th?
          Or did the Soviet Union attack with Poland late with Hitler for a week and a half?

          It's not like you want Kolyasurengoy at all.
          1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 11: 39 New
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            But as?
            Can anyone really explain what happened in September 1939?
            Poland and Germany invaded the territory of the USSR?
            Or Germany from the USSR to the territory of Poland?
            1. tihonmarine 26 December 2019 11: 41 New
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              Quote: Nkv3
              Or Germany from the USSR to the territory of Poland?

              And what territory did the USSR capture from Poland?
              1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 12: 00 New
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                Wiki to the rescue.
                In short - the eastern regions of Poland in full accordance with the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact on the partition of Poland.
                The Polish territory of 196 thousand km² with a population of about 13 million people passed under the control of the USSR.
                The territorial division of Poland between the USSR and Germany was completed on September 28, 1939 by the signing of the Treaty of Friendship and the Border between the USSR and Germany.
                1. tihonmarine 26 December 2019 12: 13 New
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                  Quote: Nkv3
                  The territorial division of Poland between the USSR and Germany was completed on September 28, 1939 by the signing of the Treaty of Friendship and the Border between the USSR and Germany.

                  Wiki is a mistake of imperialism. In fact, the USSR returned all its territories that were torn away by Poland after the WWII, just as the territory of Crimea was returned back. You never need to open your mouth on someone else’s pie, the answer will always come. But after the war, you Ukrainians also received Galicia, in return for its Poles received West Prussia, East Pomerania and much more other territory.
        2. figwam 26 December 2019 11: 51 New
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          So this is Poland along with Hitler

          Yes, it is Poland who attacked Czechoslovakia together with Hitler in 1938, then Hitler destroyed Poland as a future rival in 1939, and we returned our lands captured by Poland in 1921 and our troops went strictly to the Curzon line approved by the world community in 1919 .
          1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 12: 08 New
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            I am not interested in what happened in Czechoslovakia in 1938. Like what happened in ancient Rome.
            As soon as the hype around Poland rose, I ask a specific question: WHAT happened in Poland in the 39th year? I don't care WHY.
            I am only interested in a statement of fact.
            And references to the history, alas, are unconvincing. So you can agree to anything.
            Here is a Shiklgruber also believed that restores historical justice, helps oppressed peoples and reunites the nation.
            Do you propose to accept his point of view? Did he also seem to be returning his lands?
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              MMX 26 December 2019 12: 35 New
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              Quote: Nkv3
              I am not interested in what happened in Czechoslovakia in 1938. Like what happened in ancient Rome.
              As soon as the hype around Poland rose, I ask a specific question: WHAT happened in Poland in the 39th year? I don't care WHY.
              I am only interested in a statement of fact.
              And references to the history, alas, are unconvincing. So you can agree to anything.
              Here is a Shiklgruber also believed that restores historical justice, helps oppressed peoples and reunites the nation.
              Do you propose to accept his point of view? Did he also seem to be returning his lands?


              That is the point that should be of interest. Otherwise taken out of the historical context. And the realities of those years clearly indicate that Poland at that time was not at all an innocent victim.
              1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 12: 55 New
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                Does this justify aggression against her?
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                  MMX 26 December 2019 16: 15 New
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                  Quote: Nkv3
                  Does this justify aggression against her?


                  This is called preventive action. I repeat, Poland was not an innocent victim (from the word at all) and received exactly what she deserved.
            2. dauria 26 December 2019 12: 39 New
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              What happened in Poland in the 39th year? I don't care WHY.
              I am only interested in a statement of fact.


              Facts ? No, you're lying, you do not need facts. They are not beautiful. Poland on September 17, 1939 already did not have . Gold was transported, the government sat on the Polish-Romanian border, where it immediately rushed to the night of 17-18. Yes, the trouble is, they threw the allies, no one intervened and, under pressure from France, was interned (read, arrested) in Romania. Then they gathered all the crooks who fled across Europe and made a "government in exile." The Soviet army entered the uncontrolled territory towards the Germans. Amen.
              Or did you have to give all of Poland to the Germans, forgetting about the security interests of the USSR?
              Claims against England and France, they were among the Poles in the "savior" listed. Even the Fuhrer declared war.

              By the way, the British shot the French fleet along with the sailors. An interesting fact, right? And no one yells that this is an attack of England on France together with Hitler.
              1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 12: 46 New
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                Good version.
                From the cycle, anyway, the neighbor’s house has already been robbed, so why don’t I profit from his little things?
                1. Okolotochny 26 December 2019 12: 56 New
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                  Well, yes, Jerusalem and the Golan are an example of this. Stalin MOVED the border away from Moscow, as with the Finns from Leningrad. Because he understood the inevitability of the war with the Reich.
                  1. Doctor 26 December 2019 13: 44 New
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                    Because he understood the inevitability of the war with the Reich.


                    Rather, TOGETHER with the Reich.

                    Transcript of a conversation between I. von Ribbentrop on September 27, 1939 and I.V. Stalin and V.M. Molotov.
                    It started at 22 p.m. and lasted three hours.
                    The conversation was attended by: from the Soviet side - Plenipotentiary of the USSR in Germany A. A. Shkvartsev, from the German side - German Ambassador to the USSR F. Schulenburg

                    ... After Mr. Minister finished his thoughts, Stalin turned to Molotov with a question which of both of them should answer. Mr. Molotov remarked that he wanted to leave this to Mr. Stalin, because he would certainly do it better. Following this, Stalin stated the following. The main element of Soviet foreign policy has always been the belief in the possibility of cooperation between Germany and the Soviet Union.
                    ... As for the relations of the Soviet government to the English complex of issues, he would like to note that the Soviet government never had sympathy for England. It is only necessary to look into the writings of Lenin and his students in order to understand that the Bolsheviks always criticized and hated England most of all, moreover in those days when there was no talk of cooperation with Germany.
                    ... Mr. Stalin said that the Minister in a cautious form hinted that under the cooperation Germany does not mean any (military word is written by hand) military assistance and does not intend to draw the Soviet Union into the war. This is very tactful and well said. The fact that Germany currently does not need someone else’s help and, possibly, will not need someone else’s help in the future. However, if, contrary to expectations, Germany finds itself in a difficult situation, then she can be sure that the Soviet people will come to Germany's aid and will not allow Germany to be strangled. The Soviet Union is interested in a strong Germany and will not allow Germany to be thrown to the ground ...
                2. dauria 26 December 2019 13: 05 New
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                  From the cycle, anyway, the neighbor’s house has already been robbed, so why don’t I profit from his little things?


                  Ask the British why they needed the French fleet after the surrender of France. Moreover, why did you need to shoot French sailors. And in the USA - where did the French liner "Normandy" go?
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                    1. dauria 26 December 2019 13: 44 New
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                      The judge wonders: was the fact of the crime or not? And only on the basis of recognition of this FACT does the judge pronounce the verdict.


                      Rejoice that judged Poland and the rest of the mongrel in the 45th Stalin and the Soviet people. Too much of it was human. But in vain, as it turned out. You have not grown to such judges.
                    2. region58 26 December 2019 15: 02 New
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                      The judge wonders: was the fact of the crime or not?

                      The fact that an act is qualified as a crime is determined by circumstances. Take a look at the same Wikipedia:
                      The circle of circumstances precluding crime deeds
                      As a rule, only acts expressly provided for as such by criminal law can be recognized as excluding criminal acts. The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for six such circumstances: necessary defense, harm during the detention of the person who committed the crime, extreme necessity, physical or mental coercion, justified risk, execution of an order or order. Legislation of other countries of the world, as a rule, provides for circumstances such as necessary defense and extreme necessity. ...
            3. Doctor 26 December 2019 12: 42 New
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              What happened in Poland in the 39th year?


              The Polish state collapsed, and the Germans and I restored order and tranquility there. wink

              600. GERMAN-SOVIET COMMUNICATION
              September 18, 1939 In order to avoid all kinds of unreasonable rumors about the tasks of the Soviet and German troops operating in Poland, the Government of the USSR and the Government of Germany declare that the actions of these troops do not pursue any goal that is contrary to the interests of Germany or the Soviet Union and contrary to the spirit and the letter of the non-aggression pact concluded between Germany and the USSR, the task of these troops, on the contrary, is to restore order and tranquility in Poland, violated by the collapse of the Polish state, and to help the people of Poland reorganize their state of existence.
          2. figwam 26 December 2019 12: 24 New
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            Quote: Nkv3
            I'm not interested,

            Brilliant !!!))) By this logic, we can be accused of attacking the Germans near Stalingrad in 1942, but you are not interested in what happened before in 1941 and why the Germans were there!
            If you are not interested in history, then do not ask questions, study for yourself.
            1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 12: 53 New
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              I know quite well the history of World War II.
              And I ask a question in connection with the latest statements by our Foreign Ministry.
              From the context of which it follows that Poland is to blame for everything.
              So I clarify: in September 1939, Poland, together with Germany, invaded the Soviet Union?
              Or was it otherwise? Some other state, in full accordance with the Molotov-Ribbentrop secret protocol, invaded Poland?
              1. figwam 26 December 2019 13: 05 New
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                From the context of which it follows that Poland is to blame for everything.

                Yes, you understood correctly.
                1. Nkv3 26 December 2019 13: 43 New
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                  Those. did Poland attack the USSR in September 1939?
                  1. figwam 26 December 2019 13: 51 New
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                    I already gave you the answer, do you need to repeat twice?
                  2. Doctor 26 December 2019 14: 10 New
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                    Those. did Poland attack the USSR in September 1939?


                    First to Germany. On the instructions of England. Even Hitler went to the front again.

                    576. DIARY OF A PRESS ATTACHE OF THE Plenipotentiary Representation of the USSR in GERMANY, A. A. SMIRNOV
                    13 September 1939 of
                    Secretly
                    Attended a conference of foreign journalists held at the Ministry of Propaganda. The conference was led by Goebbels Deputy Press Dietrich.
                    ... Then Dietrich took the floor ... Poland, which got involved in the war because of the incitement of England, can now be considered lost. ... Dietrich devoted much attention to the attacks on England, indicating that she alone was the sole culprit of the war, that Hitler in this matter showed supposedly exceptional readiness and patience for a peaceful settlement.
                    ... The question was asked when Hitler would return from the front. Dietrich replied that Hitler would return from the front after the end of military operations with Poland, and then went on to clarify the significance of Hitler’s presence at the front, namely that Hitler intended to visit among all the military units participating on the Polish front, and thereby “add vigor” to the soldier’s mass that Hitler allegedly lives in a mobile soldier’s tent and eats from an ordinary soldier’s kitchen. The American correspondent Sigrid Schulz posed the question: due to the fact that the USSR mobilized and concentrated its troops on the Polish border, will the Russians advance? Dietrich refused to answer this question.
                  3. Mavrikiy 26 December 2019 14: 14 New
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                    Quote: Nkv3
                    Those. did Poland attack the USSR in September 1939?

                    Naturally did not have time, glut oneself. She concluded the first contract with Germany, participated in the partition of the Czech Republic, but this seemed to her not enough and ran into Germany, for Slovakia. secured the support of England, but were once again abandoned. And so it burst.
          3. not main 26 December 2019 23: 38 New
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            Why do you answer? This is a Troll, he receives money for every answer! But the meaning to him is a side and nothing can be proved to this trickster! Do not waste time and energy, pass by! Or, as an option, just a minus, but this sk ... will come out tomorrow under a new nickname! LEARN TO RECOGNIZE THE ENEMY!
    3. Mountain shooter 26 December 2019 09: 33 New
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      True eyes prick? So atu her! But the archives are ... Such ... Wrong! Do not want to obey. One thing, another gets out ... How to deal with this?
    4. Mavrikiy 26 December 2019 14: 06 New
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      White and fluffy pshek!

      Not furry furies, but we are fools. They have been fighting with us with military-historical weapons, already about 30 years ago, as the monuments began to demolish and declared us occupiers, but we only get lost and make excuses.
      Who reacts to blows will always lose. Where is the system-historical approach? Where is the history of our communication with the West in all its glory, starting from Ivan the Terrible? Conspiracies, coups, poisoning of kings ..... The mekane of GDP about Stalin and the USSR gives support to the West for attack and knocks out weapons from our hands. While the advisers and the media will be going liberals Svanidze, Khlevnyuki, Mlechiny, "Echo" we will lose.
      And threats such as “we still have a lot of documents” can’t cause anything in the West, except for a smile and enthusiasm, because a bunch of pieces of paper, this is a bunch of pieces of paper. We need not present them, but create a system in which each piece of paper has its own place, proving the vile actions of the West. And the Internet must 24 hours a day to convey all the vileness of the West to its inhabitants.
  2. bessmertniy 26 December 2019 08: 39 New
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    However, Polish apples with this approach will never return to the Russian market. negative The Poles should be able to look to the future, but they do not know how. Therefore, Poland, as well as Ukraine, Russia in the dialogue with Europe will be set aside. hi
    1. RUSS 26 December 2019 08: 42 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      However, Polish apples with this approach will never return to the Russian market.

      Polish apples in the guise of Belarusian apples are very well sold in Russia
      1. Mikhail3 26 December 2019 09: 17 New
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        Well, since Europeans sold the most lousy seedlings to the Poles, which they had long abandoned themselves, these apples are not sold very well - chewing sweet cotton wool is not very pleasant. But they are in every store, that's for sure. So, as a result of sanctions and counter-sanctions, we are simply subsidizing Belarus. I hope that at the expense of the Poles, and not our own products, which we traditionally flatten for the sake of foreign.
        1. Thrall 26 December 2019 09: 31 New
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          Polish apples in the guise of Belarusian apples are very well sold in Russia

          And do Russian businessmen, of course, have nothing to do with this? smile
          1. Dym71 26 December 2019 09: 56 New
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            And do Russian businessmen, of course, have nothing to do with this?

            They don’t just have, I think that the idea itself is ours, and you just re-stick the stickers yes
            1. Thrall 26 December 2019 10: 04 New
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              you only re-stick stickers

              Why so primitive?
              We buy a truck of apples in Poland. We transport through Belarus under a transit certificate supposedly to Kazakhstan. Unload in Pskov. The truck returns and is loaded with similar apples. And now it is reaching Kazakhstan.
              By the way, now there can be no Belarusian apples in Russia - 2019 was a lean year in Belarus for apples. Even summer residents practically did not have them.
              1. Dym71 26 December 2019 10: 13 New
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                Quote: Thrall
                We buy a truck of apples in Poland. We transport through Belarus under a transit certificate supposedly to Kazakhstan. Unload in Pskov. The truck returns to Belarus and is loaded with similar apples. And now it is reaching Kazakhstan.

                It would be better if you shared the info, as with an eye on the future, apple orchards yes
                1. Thrall 26 December 2019 10: 31 New
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                  with an eye to the future, apple orchards

                  Everything is simple. The state program "Fruit growing", for those who grow apples (and not only), half of the interest paid on loans is returned from the budget
                  1. Dym71 26 December 2019 10: 54 New
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                    Quote: Thrall
                    The state program "Fruit growing", for those who grow apples (and not only), half of the interest paid on loans is returned from the budget

                    All this is great, and new gardens appear? (You are from Belarus, EMNIP)
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                      and new gardens appear?

                      500+ hectares per year
                2. tihonmarine 26 December 2019 11: 30 New
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                  Quote: Dym71
                  It would be better if you shared the info, as with an eye on the future, apple orchards

                  And how many of these gardens are abandoned and wild, and how many were cut down. And our apples are tastier than Polish, our Michurinsky ones.
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    9PA 26 December 2019 08: 39 New
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    Will we still have a chance to get even with everyone?
    1. Berber 26 December 2019 08: 53 New
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      You do not need to acknowledge them. They "get even" themselves. They do not understand that all US policy is built on the assumption that Russia will disappear and fall apart. A GREAT POLAND will participate in the section. (Everything as before the Second World War) The USA is overseas, and we are close by. And do not fall apart.
      1. Fantazer911 26 December 2019 09: 33 New
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        Banana them, Poles peeled and polished and not a section of Russia am
  4. Cowbra 26 December 2019 08: 40 New
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    Logs, and you realize. that log and chock are twin brothers? Fuel. It burns well, comprene? winked
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  6. 1536 26 December 2019 08: 48 New
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    The Poles began to resemble the knight of Malbrook, who was preparing to go on a campaign, but ... "he was succumbed and died on that day." Europe seemed to get sick with pimples from nedotraha.
    1. cniza 26 December 2019 08: 55 New
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      A very accurate comparison and they begin a new round.
  7. evgic 26 December 2019 08: 48 New
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    Poland was and remains a Nazi. This is not a secret for anyone who somehow monitors the situation. And the current leadership of Poland is the Nazis, just as long as the EU does not give them full force, it does not.
    1. cniza 26 December 2019 08: 54 New
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      They understand that E.S. they’ll stop feeding them soon and are trying to stick to the USA, but this will destroy them.
      1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 09: 00 New
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        Quote: cniza
        They understand that E.S. they’ll stop feeding them soon and are trying to stick to the USA, but this will destroy them.

        Poles have phantom pains. They cannot forget how they were expelled from the Kremlin.
        1. cniza 26 December 2019 09: 06 New
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          There is a whole series of these pains, apparently again begging.
        2. aszzz888 26 December 2019 09: 07 New
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          Andrey Chistyakov (Andrey Chistyakov) Today, 09: 00 NEW
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          They understand that E.S. they’ll stop feeding them soon and are trying to stick to the USA, but this will destroy them.

          Poles have phantom pains. They cannot forget how they were expelled from the Kremlin.
          Reply

          hi ! Since their memory is short, we need to constantly remind them of this. wink
      2. tihonmarine 26 December 2019 11: 34 New
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        They understand that E.S. they’ll stop feeding them soon and are trying to stick to the USA, but this will destroy them.

        Interestingly, did the states “at least give a dollar to someone for free for the entire time of coexistence?”
  8. The leader of the Redskins 26 December 2019 08: 49 New
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    Calls to the Poles about "understand and forget everything" in any case will rest on hatred. Because this feeling is genetically formed - three sections under the kings, Tukhachevsky’s campaign, the events of 1939 and the role of the backyard in the CMEA ...
    1. hydrox 26 December 2019 09: 36 New
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      Well, it's you in vain, in CMEA they played a rather prominent role of "1st Western Deputy for Cosmetics, Fashion and Light Industry".
      1. The leader of the Redskins 26 December 2019 09: 41 New
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        I do not agree. Cosmetics rather Bulgaria. Legprom was also diverse - shoes Yugoslav and Czech. As far as I was told, Poland was promoted more like mechanical engineering. That's why aircraft factories, ships, tanks, tractors ...
        But the construction was given by cornmen and obsolete helicopters. But the ships and loaders went!
  9. DNS-a42 26 December 2019 08: 49 New
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    Mrs. "Stalin is worse than Hitler," of course, will teach you how to honor history.
    1. Dym71 26 December 2019 09: 52 New
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      Our beauty Miriam whom hosh will blow yes
  10. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 08: 51 New
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    Restalinization in Russia at the official level? In Russia itself, I would like to get an answer: in what place did the Polish "specialist" see such Nifiga doesn’t believe in “restalinization”, especially looking at Maria Zakharova’s light, and recalling her tweets foolish. But this is the face of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a typical native of MGIMO.
    1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 09: 11 New
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      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Restalinization in Russia at the official level? In Russia itself, I would like to get an answer: in what place did the Polish "specialist" see such Nifiga doesn’t believe in “restalinization”, especially looking at Maria Zakharova’s light, and recalling her tweets foolish. But this is the face of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a typical native of MGIMO.

      Forgive me. Where are you and where is M. Zakharova. While here, "write" ...
      1. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 13 New
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        Oh, thank you, they showed me the place, do you have any kindred relatives with Zakharov? Experiencing it so touching. For Psaki probably worried the same way?
        1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 09: 17 New
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          Oh, thank you, they showed me the place, do you have any kindred relatives with Zakharov? Experiencing it so touching. For Psaki probably worried the same way?

          Yes please. There are no relatives. Any other questions?
          1. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 19 New
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            Well, do not worry so much for her, and it is not for you to indicate the place for me.
            1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 09: 29 New
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              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Well, do not worry so much for her, and it is not for you to indicate the place for me.

              It’s not for you to discuss M. Zakharov. They wouldn’t write nonsense, wouldn’t get back.
              1. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 32 New
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                Oh uneven you to Psaki Zakharova breathe, and about stupidity is not for you to judge the same. stupid things
                1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 09: 33 New
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                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Oh uneven you to psaki

                  Well yes. You just remember her ...
                  1. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 36 New
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                    And the level is true, then they have about the same, only the psaki hateful and stupid about the past of their homeland did not write, in contrast ...
                    1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 09: 38 New
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                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      And the level is true, then they have about the same, only the psaki hateful and stupid about the past of their homeland did not write, in contrast ...

                      You are not far from Psaki. Then they mentioned it already 2 times. Keep remembering her.
                      1. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 40 New
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                        Stunned! I also very often mentioned I.V. Stalin, and almost always in a positive way, will you continue the comparison?
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                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Stunned! I also very often mentioned I.V. Stalin, and almost always in a positive way, will you continue the comparison?

                        You list all whom you often mention. How to turn it on right away, then yours doesn’t understand.
                      3. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 44 New
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                        What is it? Does your powerful intellect already refuse you? In general, you set the comparison parameter, but then bam and wagging began
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        As they turned it on, yours doesn’t understand.
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                        What is it? Does your powerful intellect already refuse you? In general, you set the comparison parameter, but then bam and wagging began
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        As they turned it on, yours doesn’t understand.

                        Well yes. Where to us is that. You "teach" to M. Zakharov. And here I am. You excuse me for having “descended” to you. Could not pass by.
                      5. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 53 New
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                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        Well yes. Where to us then
                        Do you need this? Personally, Andrey Chistyakov? You do not drag the public.
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                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        Well yes. Where to us then
                        Do you need this? Personally, Andrey Chistyakov? You do not drag the public.

                        Are you all here? Good luck. The "debater" ....
                      7. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 09: 56 New
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                        And good luck to you, "a fighter for the honor of a typical graduate of MGIMO."
        2. Amateur 26 December 2019 09: 58 New
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          only psaki nasty and stupid about the past of their homeland did not write,

          But Zakharova is dancing. He fights with Stalinism and BeniDiktov demonstratively friends.
          1. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 10: 08 New
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            To a pretty (outwardly) woman, why not dance, outside working hours of course laughing .
          2. Amateur 26 December 2019 10: 13 New
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            Spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova danced the Kalinka Russian folk dance during a reception for media workers on the sidelines of the Russia-ASEAN summit in Sochi.

            So she dances during working hours. repeat
          3. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 10: 14 New
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            Scoundrel scoundrel! I would have remembered everything to her! Yes, married only)).
  • spirit 26 December 2019 08: 51 New
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    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, led by Miller and the grandmaster, washed themselves and whose north stream and Ukraine will pay dividends, now we urgently need to turn the attention of citizens to a new irritant, !! Poland, it suits us, to let go through all the Fed channels laughing
    1. Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2019 08: 58 New
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      Quote: spirit
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, led by Miller and the grandmaster, washed themselves and whose north stream and Ukraine will pay dividends, now we urgently need to turn the attention of citizens to a new irritant, !! Poland, it suits us, to let go through all the Fed channels laughing

      Yes in the know. "There is no bridge" "Mosfilm". Everything is gone. Plaster is removed. The client is leaving. What else is there?
  • cniza 26 December 2019 08: 52 New
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    Such obvious irritation and the working out of “cookies” by Polish “activists” suggests that both Putin and Zakharova in their own words about Poland touched Polish ambitions “for the living” - they touched the historical truth that they are trying to hush up in Warsaw.


    This message is not so much Poland, as all politicians and states who are trying to support and cultivate fascism.
    1. aszzz888 26 December 2019 09: 10 New
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      cniza (Victor) Today, 08: 52
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      Such obvious irritation and the working out of “cookies” by Polish “activists” suggests that both Putin and Zakharova in their own words about Poland touched Polish ambitions “for the living” - they touched the historical truth that they are trying to hush up in Warsaw.


      This promise is not so much Poland as all politicians and states that are trying to support and cultivate fascism.

      Yes, and first of all for unnecessary.
      1. cniza 26 December 2019 09: 11 New
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        But it doesn’t reach them well, there they will need more substantial conductors.
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          cniza (Victor) Today, 09: 11 NEW
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          But it’s bad for them , there the conductors will be needed more substantial.

          I agree completely. With the thread, and its length, it is necessary to revise the product parameters under the name unnecessary.
          1. cniza 26 December 2019 09: 16 New
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            Yeah, and "uprooters" must be prepared ...
  • 75 Sergey 26 December 2019 08: 53 New
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    For some reason, the Molotov-Ribentropp Pact is everywhere mentioned, but its purpose is somehow not voiced.
    Yes, the pact was, it was a tactical move, the purpose of which was to restore the previously lost territory in the Brest Peace and postpone the start of active hostilities.
    1. Doctor 26 December 2019 12: 14 New
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      For some reason, the Molotov-Ribentropp Pact is everywhere mentioned, but its purpose is somehow not voiced.
      Yes, the pact was, it was a tactical move, the purpose of which was to restore the previously lost territory in the Brest Peace and postpone the start of active hostilities.


      Yes, there were a lot of plans, if it happened, we would now sit as oil kings in Dubai.

      500. TELEGRAM OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNCIL OF PEOPLE'S COMMISSARS OF THE USSR, PEOPLE'S COMMISSIONER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE USSR V.MOLOTOV TO THE SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE CPSU CPSU
      November 12 1940 city
      Strictly secret to STALIN.
      The first, more than two-hour conversation took place with Ribbentrop. In view of the fact that they should now go on a conversation with Hitler, I report briefly on the conversation with Ribbentrop. Extensively repeating his letter to Stalin, he added that Germany's interests are in East and West Africa; Italy - in Northeast Africa; Japan - in the south and the USSR also in the south - to the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. So far I could only briefly answer that Ribbentrop’s thoughts are very interesting, deserve discussion in Berlin, and then in Moscow with his participation ...
      1. 75 Sergey 26 December 2019 12: 45 New
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        And of this, each led his own game.
        1. Doctor 26 December 2019 13: 04 New
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          And of this, each led his own game.


          Well, someone led the game, and someone listened, hanging ears.

          TELEGRAM OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNCIL OF PEOPLE'S COMMISSARS OF THE USSR, PEOPLE'S COMMISSAR OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE USSR V.MOLOTOV AND THE SECRETARY GENERAL
          Central Committee of the CPSU (B.) N.V. STALINU
          November 13 1940 city
          Strictly secret to STALIN.
          Had a first conversation with Hitler, which lasted 2 hours 30 minutes and ended with the condition to continue it tomorrow, and then when Ribbentrop arrived in Moscow
          ... expressed that the interests and living spaces of Germany and the USSR are not in conflict and can be settled for the future, more than for the duration of a person’s life;
          ... said that England was already defeated and, as soon as meteorological conditions permit, he would show very concretely what this means, but in any case England should not deal with the affairs of Europe;
          ... Germany’s interests now lie in Central Africa, that is, approximately in the plane of the return of the old German colonies with some adjustments, since in Europe Germany had already secured space for itself at least a hundred years ahead, although in another place he said, that the Balkans are pushed by the need for raw materials (and not just military interests against England.
          ... the United States should deal only with America and not interfere in the affairs of Europe;
          ... on behalf of only Germans or on behalf of all participants in the pact, invites the USSR to participate in the tripartite pact as the fourth partner.
  • rocket757 26 December 2019 08: 55 New
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    With this approach, as Maria Zakharova noted, Poland makes it impossible to develop relations.

    Let's make this impossible happen!
    Do we need something from those Panov, AT ALL?
    I think not really ... let yourself, yourself.
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      Quote: rocket757
      With this approach, as Maria Zakharova noted, Poland makes it impossible to develop relations.

      Let's make this impossible happen!
      Do we need something from those Panov, AT ALL?
      I think not really ... let yourself, yourself.

      So they are already gone. Relations of these. Poland from the United States has "love." To the grave now for sure. And both of them.
      1. rocket757 26 December 2019 09: 24 New
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        So they are already gone. Relations of these. Poland from the United States has "love." To the grave now for sure. And both of them.

        I suppose that Trump, a gentry ambition, will not endure for a long time. We will see.
  • aszzz888 26 December 2019 09: 03 New
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    Such obvious irritation and the working out of “cookies” by Polish “activists” suggests that both Putin and Zakharova in their own words about Poland touched Polish ambitions “for the living” - they touched the historical truth that they are trying to hush up in Warsaw.

    Sufficiently capacious, and correct conclusion to the article.
  • Sapsan136 26 December 2019 09: 26 New
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    That's right, more often Russophobes have to poke their faces into their crimes, otherwise they are insolent in their attempts to accuse Russia of everything, even their own crimes ...
  • Maks1995 26 December 2019 09: 29 New
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    And, this is the eternal butting of the upper, who .... is longer.

    And doctors calmly go there at the conference and do not care .....
  • polk26l 26 December 2019 09: 51 New
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    With the vile, Russophobia, and more precisely, opponents today - "pshkami", not words must be fought, but practical deeds! They must punish me, first of all, with economic sanctions, which should be felt by the Polish government, and the economy, and agriculture, and the people as a whole! From the “carrot” technique to the “carrot” technique !!! Let's see what they sing next!
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      Why?
  • Aliken 26 December 2019 10: 04 New
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    Miserable, flawed Poland can not give anything to the world, but Russophobia.
  • Terenin 26 December 2019 10: 12 New
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    Zakharova: Poland makes it impossible to develop relations.

    What are you, authorities, on behalf of the people scampering with the "development of relations", with obvious foes (the authorities of Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, the Bulgarian "brothers" ...) fool not wanting this normal relationship? For some reason, on a joint vacation, with us (Russians) they quickly know "their place" and will not sway. And then they still say goodbye with a smile from ear to ear. Because we behave with them "in a mirror", without idiotic diplomacy ...
  • Jarserge 26 December 2019 10: 23 New
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    Poland, the Poles finally finally explained with documents who they really are - a "loose change of the West" with unstable moral principles ... And then the cries of "great, white and fluffy Poland" have already begun to bother
  • AlexVas44 26 December 2019 10: 31 New
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    For a long time it was already necessary to speak so loudly about historical truth, as if it were not to the "taste" of many European politicians, even to the population who was duped by the current propaganda. And now it is difficult for them to perceive it, but it is necessary. In general, the truth is more in their ears, it is for them, and not for us. We do not rewrite history, although ....
  • Prisoner 26 December 2019 10: 46 New
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    Too much Poland has become in our media. Do not spoil? Once already spoiled. After the war, they did not particularly publicize the Polish nasty things both from the authorities and from the common people. They decided to forget how they were kissing the gums with the Nazis and precisely because of the linking of history and politics, but from our side. It was not necessary to spare the "thin" mental construction of neither the Bulgarians, nor the Hungarians, nor the Poles, nor the Czechs with Slovaks. For a good relationship, as history shows, none of them understands. It was necessary to constantly poke their face in their vomit. The French, by the way, too.
  • seacap 26 December 2019 11: 00 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    it's just, like, children's nightly fears.

    This is ordinary greed and envy, on the basis of flawed farm thinking, formed due to constant and many years of external dependence.
  • cherkas.oe 26 December 2019 11: 02 New
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    The main thing is that Russia would know the truth from small to large, and for this purpose it is not necessary to broadcast a show with scum from the outskirts, Poland, Germany, Hungary, and the United States on all central channels, but to return normal political review with serious experts and a demonstration full screen of authentic documents, arranged in chronological order, testifying to the actions of participants in those events. The same should be in history textbooks, And throwing beads in front of those who do not accept the historical realities when, no matter how hard the GDP tries, Lavrov and Zakharova are in vain.
  • Air force 26 December 2019 11: 04 New
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    There is no one to stop Russophobic politics in Poland, initially the European Union and the United States encouraged Russophobic politicians and brought them to power on the condition that Poland would be a Russophobian buffer. Then they were admitted to the EU in order to eliminate a competitor in them, namely to close enterprises that are competitive, to milk labor, and to have Poland itself as a sales market of several tens of millions of people. Poland in this case is just a Russophobian buffer, and Polish politicians are on a paycheck and scream about what they are told to scream.
  • Romanenko 26 December 2019 11: 11 New
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    Quote: “An example of this is Poland’s support for a resolution of the European Parliament, in which (resolution) of the blame for the outbreak of World War II is virtually equally placed on Nazi Germany and the USSR.”
    Well, yes, Poland lay down and spread her legs, and the USSR fought against the Nazis for 4 years and thereby destroyed all Polish peace plans.
    Everything turns out right, they are for peace, so they surrendered, and the Russians are so bad - they started a war.
    Now, if everything, like the French, Poles, and many more others had laid out, then there would have been no war.
  • 7,62h54 26 December 2019 11: 49 New
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    Psheks and other partners will bite Russia until the Russian authorities themselves decide on their attitude to the history of the USSR. While they will extol the tsarist regime, hammer up the mausoleum with plywood, and slurredly munch on the theme of Lenin and Stalin, the attacks will continue. They do not like the weak, and strength is not only in hypersound, but also in determination.
  • semuil 26 December 2019 11: 58 New
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    Shouldn't the Poles repent for allowing the Germans to invade the territory of the USSR, these Poles should be grateful to Comrade Stalin for the unexpected growth of their territories. They behave as if they won the war from Russia and are waiting for repentance, only the war has not yet begun.
  • Victor 73/XNUMX/XNUMX 26 December 2019 11: 59 New
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    Yesterday I watched Ivashov’s video on TV day. So he at the end of the truth says the Russian people are sleeping like a bear in a den. And it's time to wake up. Mongrel already on all sides. And someone very skillfully sets them. No matter how torn in hibernation
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      And someone very skillfully sets them.
      Victor, you that you want to insert some intrigue in this question or you do not guess? Look around. Today, an example is sitting on an example, and customer it’s always the same. They want to advise everything "ungrateful". They say wake up. Do not wake up. Paid.
  • Kibl 26 December 2019 12: 04 New
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    But what the hell does Russia need this Poland for? Get the hell out of the Russian ambassador from Warsaw, leave the temporary attorney and stop them. Why is all this disgusting! Pigs are not grateful!
  • Operator 26 December 2019 12: 21 New
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    Problems in Russophobia are not located abroad, but within Russia - the leadership of Russian academic institutions at educational institutions and their research specialists specializing in the history of our country, almost entirely occupy Russophobian positions, having stable incomes in the form of foreign grants for this.

    Therefore, it is high time to issue them wolf tickets and transfer them to work in secondary schools according to strictly approved historical state programs.
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  • Flawless 26 December 2019 13: 25 New
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    More often it is necessary to expose Polish crimes both at the time committed both during and before the Second World War, so that they would not be too surprised. Moreover, there is nothing to be indignant for; many sins are listed; they need to be made public more often. About the concentration camp created before the war by the Poles for Soviet prisoners of war who did not succumb to the Nazis in terms of cruelty, I do not say how the Poles exterminated Jews no less than the Nazis. Do not be shy about telling about it and the more the better. Take an example from Jacob Kedmi.
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    Slime
    but better through
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    We must often remind the Poles at the official level about the Pilsudski dictator as Hitler’s best friend, that he was worse than the muslin for his crimes, you should ride all over Poland more often.
  • Flawless 26 December 2019 14: 27 New
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    I wanted to write to repent to Poland and not to ride more often, more often!
  • Gennady Fomkin 26 December 2019 19: 58 New
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    Polish aiding Nazi Germany in the prewar period, the Polish "activists" began with zeal worthy of a better application, post photos with Molotov and Ribbentrop. As if Russia still does not recognize the existence of that treaty. An army of pro-American trolls in Poland and Ukraine besieges Twitter and Facebook, trying again and again to blame the outbreak of World War II on the USSR. laughing I published a photo of "little brothers" with their joint parades with, after which they no longer wanted to post photos of all kinds of parades of the Red Army laughing laughingLogic, common sense and arguments and facts are powerless here, like all medicine - except, perhaps, punitive psychiatry.

  • Gennady Fomkin 26 December 2019 20: 03 New
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    Quote: KIBL
    But what the hell does Russia need this Poland for? Get the hell out of the Russian ambassador from Warsaw, leave the temporary attorney and stop them. Why is all this disgusting! Pigs are not grateful!

    And also reduce diplomatic relations with the Republic of Bulgaria and Poland to the level of consul laughing
  • Kostadinov 27 December 2019 11: 40 New
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    Those. did Poland attack the USSR in September 1939?

    Poland attacked Soviet Ukraine in 1920. It occupied most of the Ukrainian and Belorussian territories from 1921 to September 1939. Poland has no complaints about these territories today, but has not paid any reparations for the occupation, there is no repentance and the release of these territories declares for aggression.
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    Double standards, you understand: here I remember, here I do not remember. Because, if Polish politicians are so fond of appealing to “historical truth”, then why don't they stubbornly remember that Poland restored statehood with the help of Russia twice, in 1918 and 1944. Just;)