“Corresponds to NATO standards”: 155 mm self-propelled guns Bogdana were tested in Ukraine

“Corresponds to NATO standards”: 155 mm self-propelled guns Bogdana were tested in Ukraine

It is reported that in Ukraine tests of self-propelled howitzers "Bogdan". This is a self-propelled artillery mount with a 155 mm caliber gun.


Tests of the self-propelled howitzer "Bogdan" were held at a training ground in the Dnipropetrovsk region. At the “zero” stage of the tests, self-propelled weapon checked by hydraulic shots (hydraulic bombardment).

After that, the tests used the so-called inert ammunition, then switched to testing the Bogdan with the help of military ones.

In Ukraine, they immediately decided to focus on the fact that the self-propelled gun mount "Bogdan" "meets NATO standards." This refers to the caliber of self-propelled guns.

It is alleged that during the tests, the capabilities of self-propelled guns to fire at a rate of up to 6 rounds per minute were confirmed.

The maximum range when firing with an active rocket is 60 km.

It should be noted that "Bogdana" is a joint development of the company "Ukrainian armored vehicles" and KZTS (Kramatorsk Heavy Machine Tool Plant). The chassis for the howitzer is the KrAZ-63221 automobile platform with a 6x6 wheel formula. In this case, the car cabin is booked. A container with 20 ammunition is transported on the same chassis.

The howitzer is equipped with an ASN (automatic guidance system) on the Siemens SIPLUS and SIMATIC HM controllers.

The test was carried out with the execution of shots without the presence of people in the cabin of a self-propelled gun.
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  1. rotmistr60 26 December 2019 06: 52 New
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    The main thing is how the Ukrainian rumor caresses "compliance with NATO standards." The spirit captures and enter in ecstasy from the closeness at least in words to such a block. Time will tell who and what corresponds and what. Georgians also believed that they were fully consistent, but fate decreed in its own way.
    1. Same lech 26 December 2019 06: 55 New
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      APU is at risk to use self-propelled guns to shell Donetsk and its suburbs?
      1. Thrall 26 December 2019 07: 11 New
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        The test was carried out with the execution of shots without the presence of people in the cabin of a self-propelled gun.

        What confirms the rope in the photo smile
        1. novel66 26 December 2019 07: 27 New
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          rope!! This is a special purpose artillery cable !! ours to you hi
          1. Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 08: 31 New
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            it's called sausage
            1. novel66 26 December 2019 08: 46 New
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              infa exact ???
              1. Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 08: 48 New
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                More precisely does not happen !!!
                1. novel66 26 December 2019 10: 08 New
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                  Well what can I say !!!
      2. URAL72 26 December 2019 08: 32 New
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        Now in the Donbass art almost does not work, mostly 82mm mortars, rarely 120mm, LNG, rock, AGS. And of course, small gunner, SVD.
      3. Karaul73 26 December 2019 09: 07 New
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        And how does this gun differ from 152 mm? Of course they will take a chance. If there is another round of tension in eastern Ukraine.
    2. vladcub 26 December 2019 07: 12 New
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      In fact, they get some kind of hodgepodge: 90% of the weapons comply with the Soviet standard, and the rest is NATO.
      The transition to NATO standards is a long and costly process, but they don’t mind the money, then let them pass
      Everyone goes crazy in his own way
      1. bayard 26 December 2019 07: 51 New
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        Shells 152 mm caliber. They have expired ... and the shells themselves are ending - in almost 6 years, the consumption is high. In order to be able to use the old arsenals of NATO, and to build a new gun is not a sin.
        The same with the tank gun - a new barrel with a caliber of 120 mm. , under the NATO BC.
        The country (the former Russian province) is captured by the enemy and is being rebuilt in its own way - under the war with Russia.
        Now the United States is transferring its troops from Africa to Eastern Europe - solely for peaceful and purely humanitarian reasons.
        The army, power structures and diplomacy of the former Ukraine are under the full and direct control of the United States and Britain and are carried out exclusively for the purpose of a future war. Therefore, the supply of ammunition will come from the American and NATO arsenals - the former Soviet and Warsaw Pacts have already been largely used up, sold out and sky-ready by age.

        So missed opportunities at the beginning of 2014 led to the fact that a considerable part of the forces of Russia had to be held to stop the threat from its own territory ...
        1. KCA
          KCA 26 December 2019 08: 11 New
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          But NATO will be warm, only to deliver shells from the factory? With the same expired shelf life, well, the best, with expiring. The Americans delivered and ordered TOW to be removed to the warehouse, and not to get it, just because the complexes are not combat ready
          1. bayard 26 December 2019 08: 24 New
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            So I wrote
            Quote: bayard
            In order to be able to use the old arsenals of NATO

            The APU recently experienced shell hunger just on such a caliber. What is in stock is overdue, and in general the last years before the coup were intensely disposed of.
            If these guns go into service, the disposal of already American and NATO ammunition will begin - with practical shooting at the republics of Donbass.
        2. 5-9
          5-9 26 December 2019 09: 44 New
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          We (the USSR / RF) and NATO have different gunpowders. Ours are stored for years and lower barrel wear, they have a higher range. So the 152 mm in the territory of the BSSR can only end (well, or burn out in warehouses), but this is unlikely taking into account how many there were. But the NATO stocks of the times of the ХV were rather rotten, and these stocks. The British in 2003 (only 1 brigade near Basra) ended the 155 mm ... in the country ... in general ... they "borrowed" from the Dutch. Those. hohlobreda glow is even higher than you think ..
        3. Alexey RA 26 December 2019 10: 39 New
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          Quote: bayard
          Shells 152 mm caliber. They have expired ... and the shells themselves are ending - in almost 6 years, the consumption is high.

          With shells, one former US president during his tenure as a senator defamed ...

          Yes, it’s Obama in Donetsk - checking Ukraine’s disposal of artillery ammunition.
          It turns out that this US president is an agent of Putin ... smile
          1. bayard 26 December 2019 12: 10 New
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            The same 152 caliber shells (as well as much more) were disposed of at the Pavlograd Chemical Plant (where they used to be equipped before) in the Dnipropetrovsk Region. Ammunition was brought there not only from all over Ukraine, but also from all over the CIS. And when the database began, those shells (including missiles for Grad, Tornadoes and Hurricanes from PCP to the front line dragged them to "practical disposal").
            Obama, of course, is an agent with the call sign Ugolyok, he did give money for the disposal of all (!) T-64 tanks that were in storage ... for expedited disposal.
            The guy tried as best he could! ... did not have time ...
            And now they are giving money to organize the production of ammunition.
            ... This is Obama's Coal Tricky Plan ... to drain America wink .

            But Trump, on the contrary, saw through the criminal plans of Putin’s agents - Obama and Clinton (gave the US uranium market to Russia), and doesn’t give money to Ukraine ... like Putin’s agents in Congress are not trying ... Putin’s agents will impeach him .. as an agent of Putin.
            In short, everyone is busy, Putin painted outfits for everyone. yes
            1. vladcub 27 December 2019 15: 43 New
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              Leave Putin after school and call mom
        4. Dmitry Gundorov 26 December 2019 15: 23 New
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          [quote = bayard
          The country (the former Russian province) is captured by the enemy and is being rebuilt in its own way - under the war with Russia ... [/ quote]
          It’s interesting, but they themselves know it, or did you enlighten it, somewhere like that?
          1. bayard 27 December 2019 00: 05 New
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            Quote: Dmitry Gundorov
            Interesting, but they themselves know it.
            ?
            They know, endure and fulfill. And they have no choice.
            And they know about them.
            And they know what they know.
            Quote: Dmitry Gundorov
            or did you enlighten it, somewhere like that?

            Not somewhere like that, but directly where it happens.
            From a personal conversation with a senior officer of the SBU:
            - Who is planning such operations for you - with a white thread overlapping, stupidly and clumsy - not to put on your head ?! Americans?
            - Well yes ...
            - In truth, Zadornov was right ...
            ... From a conversation about the Malaysian Boeing.

            You will not envy such a fate - slaves are subjugated, led to the slaughter ...
            And they KNOW about it.
      2. venik 26 December 2019 08: 30 New
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        Quote: vladcub
        In fact, they get some kind of hodgepodge: 90% of the weapons comply with the Soviet standard, and the rest is NATO.
        The transition to NATO standards is a long and costly process,

        =======
        As a result, it may turn out that there will be neither one nor the other !!! (The notorious situation of an "old woman with a trough")
      3. Vadim237 26 December 2019 13: 33 New
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        NATO already has sniper rifles, ammunition, equipment, surveillance, communications, UAV supplies them, and soon it will start supplying artillery ammunition - if it does not already.
    3. lukewarm 26 December 2019 09: 16 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      caresses Ukrainian hearing

      Since the 91st year caresses. The SSR did not have time to "cool down" as our field officer in the HVVAIU began to convene everyone in the Ukrainian army. He especially emphasized NATO standards, uniforms and the lack of outfits (except for outfits at the rate). And who did he manage to say this to yesterday's Komsomol member? laughing
  2. Vladimir_2U 26 December 2019 07: 06 New
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    Hooray shanovna panovne (or whatever?) Perevoha close as never before! Hour of adoption vnat struck! Not really.
    1. Same lech 26 December 2019 07: 11 New
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      The commotion is closer than ever! Hour of adoption vnat struck! Not really.

      Sooner still ... fat with the Javelins have not yet been delivered.
      But self-propelled guns are a serious thing ... can fire at warehouses, accumulations of equipment, headquarters behind enemy lines.
      1. novel66 26 December 2019 07: 28 New
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        I’m embarrassed to ask - but where are the shells taken?
        1. Same lech 26 December 2019 07: 29 New
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          and shells where to get something ???

          If NATO standards mean they will buy NATO ammunition.
          1. novel66 26 December 2019 07: 31 New
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            But what about a pan of the chieftain with a gold reserve ??
            1. Same lech 26 December 2019 07: 35 New
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              smile Abroad will help them ...
              1. sniperino 26 December 2019 07: 53 New
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                Quote: The same Lech
                Abroad will help them
                There will be a NATO dupa: everything written off through them will trample. Good is not enough.
            2. bayard 26 December 2019 08: 27 New
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              Quote: novel xnumx
              But what about a pan of the chieftain with a gold reserve ??

              They will write down a loan, take it with the earth, and put what should go for recycling.
            3. cat Rusich 26 December 2019 23: 07 New
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              Gold reserve of "Pan Ataman" (Ukraine wassat ) in 2014 - 42,61 tons, in 2019 - 24,3 tons. Gold stock held in Germany bully and UK bully (data from the Internet hi )
              1. novel66 27 December 2019 07: 24 New
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                enough for shells!
              2. cat Rusich 28 December 2019 22: 55 New
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                Who has more reliable data on the gold reserves of the "Pan Ataman" write. It will be useful for other residents of Ukraine to find out. After V. Zelensky tongue compare.
          2. Karaul73 26 December 2019 09: 08 New
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            No, plant them. Artem is already riveting them with might and main. They work in three shifts. And it is 155 mm.
        2. Uncle lee 26 December 2019 07: 35 New
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          Quote: novel xnumx
          where to get ???

          Roma hi On their 152 mm "shirt" will be smoking ... lol
          1. novel66 26 December 2019 07: 38 New
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            I expected something like a thick wad !! Volodya hi
            1. Uncle lee 26 December 2019 07: 41 New
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              Do you have a headache on this subject? I think - no .... I do too! repeat
              1. novel66 26 December 2019 07: 42 New
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                yes curiosity ..
        3. alavrin 26 December 2019 09: 56 New
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          Now purchased for testing in Turkey
        4. DRM
          DRM 26 December 2019 10: 18 New
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          Quote: novel xnumx
          I’m embarrassed to ask - but where are the shells taken?

          So last year, they built a new line for the production of large-caliber ammunition.
      2. bayard 26 December 2019 07: 57 New
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        With such a range (active-reactive), the territory of LDN is shot through. And this is not at all funny. No matter how ridiculous their attempts to create rocket technology are, these are new opportunities for a very specific adversary - a bewildered ex-brother.
        Alas.
        1. bessmertniy 26 December 2019 08: 34 New
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          They would have to pull the economy out of failure, and not arrange an arms race. negative And the West by the West, and without normal relations with Russia, Ukraine will for a long time be tumbling with its economic and domestic political crisis. hi
          1. Article 2 of the article 26 December 2019 10: 42 New
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            Give them a freebie, but you need to work
        2. bk316 26 December 2019 11: 55 New
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          With such a range (active-reactive), the territory of LDN is shot through

          Well, not through and through, and they already have hyacinth.
          1. bayard 26 December 2019 12: 19 New
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            Hyacinth, to go far deeper, it is necessary to turn closer at the front, and this crap will be able to beat from the operational depth ...
            However, they have enough trunks. The same "Peony", and the production of BC for the "Tornadoes" and "Hurricanes" they set up ... and Lukashenko also promised them "Polonaise".
            1. bk316 26 December 2019 12: 34 New
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              To hyacinth, in order to go far inland, it is necessary to turn closer at the front Hyacinth, in order to go far inland, it is necessary closer to the front

              Well 35 km is also far away.
              And there is such an interesting development of 2s5m1 for the NATO caliber. In general, also hyacinth.
              Something seems to me that this is it, only on the chassis of the engine.
  3. Livonetc 26 December 2019 07: 20 New
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    Any, even enlarged, jihad mobile meets the NATO standard.
    A shell to meet them.
  4. Amateur 26 December 2019 07: 29 New
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    Chassis - KRAZovskoe (Ukrainian). And where did they get the 155 mm barrel with gadgets? In the Polish garbage dump?
    1. Cruorvult 26 December 2019 07: 38 New
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      Soviet barrel ruined. There are reviews of this self-propelled guns since May of this year.
      1. Amateur 26 December 2019 07: 47 New
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        So sov.stvol 152 mm. Did they squander him? And how did you cut to another ballistics? most likely the BU barrel was dragged from somewhere.
        1. Cruorvult 26 December 2019 08: 10 New
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          Here Denis Seleznev tells what and where, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfM--9mUGY

          Everything Soviet, except for the remote control.
          1. Amateur 26 December 2019 09: 31 New
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            Here Denis Seleznev tells what and where, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfM--9mUGY

            If you look closely at D. Seleznev, then he is fully consistent with the theory of C. Lombroso about a born criminal.
    2. Equalized 26 December 2019 07: 57 New
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      They did it themselves.

      https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3644996.html
      https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/2721651.html
    3. orionvitt 26 December 2019 09: 18 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      Chassis - KRAZovskoe (Ukrainian)

      Put an instrument of this caliber on the chassis of an ordinary truck, another idea. The frame will not withstand prolonged dynamic loads when shooting, twist it with a screw. I understand that KrAZ is a strong, Soviet-designed car, but still. What is suitable for some militants in Syria is absolutely not the topic in a normal army, which ukrovoyaki consider themselves to be. However, there is no difference.
    4. DRM
      DRM 26 December 2019 12: 15 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      And where did they get the 155 mm barrel with gadgets? In the Polish garbage dump?

      OJSC Starokramatorsky Machine-Building Plant already produces. At VO there was an article about this.
  5. novel66 26 December 2019 07: 29 New
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    the ability of self-propelled guns to fire at a pace of up to 6 rounds per minute was confirmed.

    it's like the typist who prints 10000 characters per minute, however, this garbage turns out
  6. Sahalinets 26 December 2019 07: 35 New
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    Are the scabby lads not torn, throwing shells to such a height? Or is the loader not conditionally shown? wink
  7. vladcub 26 December 2019 07: 39 New
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    The transition to the NATO standard is a long and costly process, but if they want to let them spend money.
    In my opinion, in an effort to imitate NATO more ideology than practical meaning. And this is not Gut: ideology can change dramatically, and money down the drain. the beauty
  8. Amateur 26 December 2019 08: 03 New
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    Quote: Equalized
    They did it themselves.
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3644996.html
    https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/2721651.html

    So this is all from the words of a certain "famous Ukrainian blogger Diana Mikhailova." Only she did not disclose the manufacturing technology: where with a file, and where with a drill.
  9. BAI
    BAI 26 December 2019 08: 47 New
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    For shooting at squares - at settlements, it is quite possible to use. Moreover, the range allows you to do this outside the breeding zone, and a shot is cheaper than the Tochka-U. The appearance of this thing will not lead to the cessation of shelling of Donbass.
  10. the same doctor 26 December 2019 08: 48 New
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    So I look at this new fashion to carry guns on trucks and think:
    Why shoot from the body? Unloading-loading the gun on the ground-in the body using hydraulics will take no more time than bringing the gun into combat position in the current samples. And the requirements for the chassis will decrease significantly.
    .
    Only it is necessary to immediately provide for 2 options for unloading: on the ground and in the trench.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan 26 December 2019 09: 26 New
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      So I look at this new fashion to carry guns on trucks and think:
      Why shoot from the body?


      And then, to quickly change position after shelling the enemy.

      Now it’s full of artillery reconnaissance, after the first shot the positions of your artillery will be known and even if you unload it into the trenches there it will be mixed with the ground and turned into a load of metal at a time.

      The tactics of using SAO against a modern adversary - they approached the position quickly fired several salvoes on the explored targets and quickly left.

      From one place you can shoot only against an enemy who does not have serious artillery.
  11. Basarev 26 December 2019 09: 01 New
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    6 shots? Is it serious? Even the Coalition has 10.
    1. Cruorvult 26 December 2019 09: 04 New
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      Rofl "even at the Coalition," compared. Well, the “Coalition” has up to 16 a minute and a module without a crew, and here everything is manual loading.
      1. Basarev 26 December 2019 09: 06 New
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        Looks like I mixed up the Coalition with Msta.
    2. bk316 26 December 2019 12: 10 New
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      Even the Coalition has 10.

      This is not a coalition analogue and not revenge but a hyacinth (2s5).
      Look carefully directly at the copy. And just in terms of rate of fire.
      That's just such a tool kraz should deploy very quickly.
  12. Amateur 26 December 2019 09: 41 New
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    Quote: Sentry73
    No, plant them. Artem is already riveting them with might and main. They work in three shifts. And it is 155 mm.
    Reply

    Have you notified the plant itself? And then on their website http://www.artem.ua/ru/novosti
    in the "products" section there is nothing like that. belay
  13. vanavatny 26 December 2019 11: 07 New
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    To comply with the standards, it is necessary to bury KRAZ, replacing it with a more affordable truck ...
  14. Kibl 26 December 2019 12: 10 New
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    What? 60 km.? And where is the crew-calculation protection and what is the ACS after that, it's more like a jihad car with a big, big gun.
    1. DRM
      DRM 26 December 2019 12: 23 New
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      Quote: KIBL
      What? 60 km.? And where is the crew-calculation protection and what is the ACS after that, it's more like a jihad car with a big, big gun.

      In other words, do you think that this self-propelled gun is worse than the Geocint that was used before? After all, this is a step forward compared to towed artillery.
      1. bk316 26 December 2019 13: 34 New
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        After all, this is a step forward compared to towed artillery.

        That's right.
        Only hyacinth (2a36) has long been different - 2s5, 2s5m and
        YES, I think this crap is worse than 2s5m1
  15. 23424636 26 December 2019 16: 22 New
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    Glad for KZTS, the plant was unique and made its own machine, K 1975, from a huge range of heavy machines for cutting helical spline channels of shafts up to 10 meters in length from 80 to 205 mm. The Germans (Germany) at one time bought there more than 20 similar machines under their own brand. Deep-boring machines for this plant were not the main nomenclature. In general, Kramatorsk is strategically more expensive than Donetsk by a factor of 2, but this is lyrics.