“Corresponds to NATO standards”: 155 mm self-propelled guns Bogdana were tested in Ukraine

It is reported that in Ukraine tests of self-propelled howitzers "Bogdan". This is a self-propelled artillery mount with a 155 mm caliber gun.

Tests of the self-propelled howitzer "Bogdan" were held at a training ground in the Dnipropetrovsk region. At the “zero” stage of the tests, self-propelled weapon checked by hydraulic shots (hydraulic bombardment).

After that, the tests used the so-called inert ammunition, then switched to testing the Bogdan with the help of military ones.

In Ukraine, they immediately decided to focus on the fact that the self-propelled gun mount "Bogdan" "meets NATO standards." This refers to the caliber of self-propelled guns.

It is alleged that during the tests, the capabilities of self-propelled guns to fire at a rate of up to 6 rounds per minute were confirmed.

The maximum range when firing with an active rocket is 60 km.

It should be noted that "Bogdana" is a joint development of the company "Ukrainian armored vehicles" and KZTS (Kramatorsk Heavy Machine Tool Plant). The chassis for the howitzer is the KrAZ-63221 automobile platform with a 6x6 wheel formula. In this case, the car cabin is booked. A container with 20 ammunition is transported on the same chassis.

The howitzer is equipped with an ASN (automatic guidance system) on the Siemens SIPLUS and SIMATIC HM controllers.

The test was carried out with the execution of shots without the presence of people in the cabin of a self-propelled gun.

Comments

[rotmistr60]

The main thing is how "compliance with NATO standards" caresses the Ukrainian ear. It captures the spirit and walks in ecstasy from closeness at least in words to such a block. Time will tell who and what corresponds to what. The Georgians also believed that they were fully consistent, but fate decided on its own.

[Same lech]

APU is at risk to use self-propelled guns to shell Donetsk and its suburbs?

[Thrall]

The test was carried out with the execution of shots without the presence of people in the cabin of a self-propelled gun.

What confirms the rope in the photo

[novel66]

rope!! This is a special purpose artillery cable !! ours to you

[Nastia makarova]

it's called sausage

[novel66]

infa exact ???

[Nastia makarova]

More precisely does not happen !!!

[novel66]

Well what can I say !!!

[URAL72]

Now in the Donbass art almost does not work, mostly 82mm mortars, rarely 120mm, LNG, rock, AGS. And of course, small gunner, SVD.

[Karaul73]

And how does this gun differ from 152 mm? Of course they will take a chance. If there is another round of tension in eastern Ukraine.

[vladcub]

In fact, they get some kind of hodgepodge: 90% of the weapons comply with the Soviet standard, and the rest is NATO.
The transition to NATO standards is a long and costly process, but they don’t mind the money, then let them pass
Everyone goes crazy in his own way

[bayard]

Shells 152 mm caliber. They have expired ... and the shells themselves are ending - in almost 6 years, the consumption is high. In order to be able to use the old arsenals of NATO, and to build a new gun is not a sin.
The same with the tank gun - a new barrel with a caliber of 120 mm. , under the NATO BC.
The country (the former Russian province) is captured by the enemy and is being rebuilt in its own way - under the war with Russia.
Now the United States is transferring its troops from Africa to Eastern Europe - solely for peaceful and purely humanitarian reasons.
The army, power structures and diplomacy of the former Ukraine are under the full and direct control of the United States and Britain and are carried out exclusively for the purpose of a future war. Therefore, the supply of ammunition will come from the American and NATO arsenals - the former Soviet and Warsaw Pacts have already been largely used up, sold out and sky-ready by age.

So missed opportunities at the beginning of 2014 led to the fact that a considerable part of the forces of Russia had to be held to stop the threat from its own territory ...

[KCA]

But NATO will be warm, only to deliver shells from the factory? With the same expired shelf life, well, the best, with expiring. The Americans delivered and ordered TOW to be removed to the warehouse, and not to get it, just because the complexes are not combat ready

[bayard]

So I wrote

Quote: bayard

In order to be able to use the old arsenals of NATO

The APU recently experienced shell hunger just on such a caliber. What is in stock is overdue, and in general the last years before the coup were intensely disposed of.
If these guns go into service, the disposal of already American and NATO ammunition will begin - with practical shooting at the republics of Donbass.

[5-9]

We (USSR / RF) and NATO have different powders. Ours are stored for years and lower barrel wear, they have a higher range. So 152-mm on the territory of the BUSSR can only run out (well, or burn out in warehouses), but this is hardly considering how many there were. But the NATO stocks of the Cold War times have already become rotten, and even these stocks. In 2003, the British (only 1 brigade near Basra) ran out of 155 mm ... in the country ... in general ... the Dutch were "borrowed". Those. the intensity of hohlobred is even higher than you think ..

[Alexey RA]

Quote: bayard

Shells 152 mm caliber. They have expired ... and the shells themselves are ending - in almost 6 years, the consumption is high.

With shells, one former US president during his tenure as a senator defamed ...

Yes, it’s Obama in Donetsk - checking Ukraine’s disposal of artillery ammunition.
It turns out that this US president is an agent of Putin ...

[bayard]

The same 152 caliber shells (like many other things) were disposed of at the Pavlograd chemical plant (where they were previously equipped) in the Dnepropetrovsk region. Ammunition was brought there not only from all over Ukraine, but also from all over the CIS. And when the DB began, those shells (including missiles for the Grad, Smerchi and Hurricanes were dragged from the PCP to the front line - for "practical disposal").
Obama, of course, is an agent with the call sign Ugolyok, he did give money for the disposal of all (!) T-64 tanks that were in storage ... for expedited disposal.
The guy tried as best he could! ... did not have time ...
And now they are giving money to organize the production of ammunition.
... This is Obama's Coal Tricky Plan ... to drain America .

But Trump, on the contrary, saw through the criminal plans of Putin’s agents - Obama and Clinton (gave the US uranium market to Russia), and doesn’t give money to Ukraine ... like Putin’s agents in Congress are not trying ... Putin’s agents will impeach him .. as an agent of Putin.
In short, everyone is busy, Putin painted outfits for everyone.

[vladcub]

Leave Putin after school and call mom

[Dmitry Gundorov]

[quote = bayard
The country (the former Russian province) is captured by the enemy and is being rebuilt in its own way - under the war with Russia ... [/ quote]
It’s interesting, but they themselves know it, or did you enlighten it, somewhere like that?

[bayard]

Quote: Dmitry Gundorov

Interesting, but they themselves know it.

?
They know, endure and fulfill. And they have no choice.
And they know about them.
And they know what they know.

Quote: Dmitry Gundorov

or did you enlighten it, somewhere like that?

Not somewhere like that, but directly where it happens.
From a personal conversation with a senior officer of the SBU:
- Who is planning such operations for you - with a white thread overlapping, stupidly and clumsy - not to put on your head ?! Americans?
- Well yes ...
- In truth, Zadornov was right ...
... From a conversation about the "Malaysian Boeing".

You will not envy such a fate - slaves are subjugated, led to the slaughter ...
And they KNOW about it.

[venik]

Quote: vladcub

In fact, they get some kind of hodgepodge: 90% of the weapons comply with the Soviet standard, and the rest is NATO.
The transition to NATO standards is a long and costly process,

=======
As a result, it may turn out that there will be neither one nor the other !!! (The infamous "old woman with a broken trough" situation)

[Vadim237]

NATO already has sniper rifles, ammunition, equipment, surveillance, communications, UAV supplies them, and soon it will start supplying artillery ammunition - if it does not already.

[lukewarm]

Quote: rotmistr60

caresses Ukrainian hearing

Since the 91st year he caresses. No sooner had the SSR "cooled down" as our course officer in HVVAIU began to call everyone into the Ukrainian army. He especially emphasized NATO standards, uniforms and lack of outfits (except for outfits for the course). And who managed to tell him, yesterday's Komsomol member?

[Vladimir_2U]

Hooray shanovna panovne (or whatever?) Perevoha close as never before! Hour of adoption vnat struck! Not really.

[Same lech]

The commotion is closer than ever! Hour of adoption vnat struck! Not really.

Sooner still ... fat with the Javelins have not yet been delivered.
But self-propelled guns are a serious thing ... can fire at warehouses, accumulations of equipment, headquarters behind enemy lines.

[novel66]

I’m embarrassed to ask - but where are the shells taken?

[Same lech]

and shells where to get something ???

If NATO standards mean they will buy NATO ammunition.

[novel66]

But what about a pan of the chieftain with a gold reserve ??

[Same lech]

Abroad will help them ...

[sniperino]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Abroad will help them

There will be a NATO dupa: everything written off through them will trample. Good is not enough.

[bayard]

Quote: novel xnumx

But what about a pan of the chieftain with a gold reserve ??

They will write down a loan, take it with the earth, and put what should go for recycling.

[cat Rusich]

Gold reserve "Pan Ataman" (Ukraine ) in 2014 - 42,61 tons, in 2019 - 24,3 tons. The "gold reserve" is stored in Germany and UK (data from the Internet )

[novel66]

enough for shells!

[cat Rusich]

Who has more reliable data on the gold reserve of "Pan Ataman" write. It will be useful for the rest of the inhabitants of Ukraine to find out. After V. Zelensky compare.

[Karaul73]

No, plant them. Artem is already riveting them with might and main. They work in three shifts. And it is 155 mm.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: novel xnumx

where to get ???

Roma On their 152 mm will be "shirt" tulle ...

[novel66]

I expected something like a thick wad !! Volodya

[Uncle lee]

Do you have a headache on this subject? I think - no .... I do too!

[novel66]

yes curiosity ..

[alavrin]

Now purchased for testing in Turkey

[DRM]

Quote: novel xnumx

I’m embarrassed to ask - but where are the shells taken?

So last year, they built a new line for the production of large-caliber ammunition.

[bayard]

With such a range (active-reactive), the territory of LDN is shot through. And this is not at all funny. No matter how ridiculous their attempts to create rocket technology are, these are new opportunities for a very specific adversary - a bewildered ex-brother.
Alas.

[bessmertniy]

They would have to pull the economy out of failure, and not arrange an arms race. And the West by the West, and without normal relations with Russia, Ukraine will for a long time be tumbling with its economic and domestic political crisis.

[Article 2 of the article]

Give them a freebie, but you need to work

[bk316]

With such a range (active-reactive), the territory of LDN is shot through

Well, not through and through, and they already have hyacinth.

[bayard]

Hyacinth, to go far deeper, it is necessary to turn closer at the front, and this crap will be able to beat from the operational depth ...
However, they already have enough trunks. The same "Peony", and the production of BC for "Tornadoes" and "Hurricanes" they established ... and Lukashenko also promised them "Polonaise".

[bk316]

To hyacinth, in order to go far inland, it is necessary to turn closer at the front Hyacinth, in order to go far inland, it is necessary closer to the front

Well 35 km is also far away.
And there is such an interesting development of 2s5m1 for the NATO caliber. In general, also hyacinth.
Something seems to me that this is it, only on the chassis of the engine.

[Livonetc]

Any, even enlarged, "jihad" mobile meets the NATO standard.
A shell to meet them.

[Amateur]

Chassis - KRAZovskoe (Ukrainian). And where did they get the 155 mm barrel with gadgets? In the Polish garbage dump?

[Cruorvult]

Soviet barrel ruined. There are reviews of this self-propelled guns since May of this year.

[Amateur]

So sov.stvol 152 mm. Did they squander him? And how did you cut to another ballistics? most likely the BU barrel was dragged from somewhere.

[Cruorvult]

Here Denis Seleznev tells what and where, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfM--9mUGY

Everything Soviet, except for the remote control.

[Amateur]

Here Denis Seleznev tells what and where, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfM--9mUGY

If you look closely at D. Seleznev, then he is fully consistent with the theory of C. Lombroso about a born criminal.

[Equalized]

They did it themselves.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3644996.html
https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/2721651.html

[orionvitt]

Quote: Amateur

Chassis - KRAZovskoe (Ukrainian)

Put an instrument of this caliber on the chassis of an ordinary truck, another idea. The frame will not withstand prolonged dynamic loads when shooting, twist it with a screw. I understand that KrAZ is a strong, Soviet-designed car, but still. What is suitable for some militants in Syria is absolutely not the topic in a normal army, which ukrovoyaki consider themselves to be. However, there is no difference.

[DRM]

Quote: Amateur

And where did they get the 155 mm barrel with gadgets? In the Polish garbage dump?

JSC "Starokramatorskiy machine-building plant" is already producing. On VO there was an article about this.

[novel66]

the ability of self-propelled guns to fire at a pace of up to 6 rounds per minute was confirmed.

it's like the typist who prints 10000 characters per minute, however, this garbage turns out

[Sahalinets]

Are the scabby lads not torn, throwing shells to such a height? Or is the loader not conditionally shown?

[vladcub]

The transition to the NATO standard is a long and costly process, but if they want to let them spend money.
In my opinion, in an effort to imitate NATO more ideology than practical meaning. And this is not Gut: ideology can change dramatically, and money down the drain. the beauty

[Amateur]

Quote: Equalized

They did it themselves.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3644996.html
https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/2721651.html

So this is all according to a certain "famous Ukrainian blogger Diana Mikhailova." Only she did not reveal the manufacturing technology: where with a file, and where with a drill.

[BAI]

For shooting in areas - in settlements, it is quite possible to use. Moreover, the range allows it to be done outside the breeding zone, and the shot is cheaper than the Tochka-U. The appearance of this thing will not lead to the cessation of shelling of Donbass.

[the same doctor]

So I look at this new fashion to carry guns on trucks and think:
Why shoot from the body? Unloading-loading the gun on the ground-in the body using hydraulics will take no more time than bringing the gun into combat position in the current samples. And the requirements for the chassis will decrease significantly.
.
Only it is necessary to immediately provide for 2 options for unloading: on the ground and in the trench.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

So I look at this new fashion to carry guns on trucks and think:
Why shoot from the body?

And then, to quickly change position after shelling the enemy.

Now it’s full of artillery reconnaissance, after the first shot the positions of your artillery will be known and even if you unload it into the trenches there it will be mixed with the ground and turned into a load of metal at a time.

The tactics of using SAO against a modern adversary - they approached the position quickly fired several salvoes on the explored targets and quickly left.

From one place you can shoot only against an enemy who does not have serious artillery.

[Basarev]

6 shots? Is it serious? Even the Coalition has 10.

[Cruorvult]

Rofl "even at the Coalition," compared. Well, the "Coalition" has up to 16 per minute and a module without a crew, but here everything is manual loading.

[Basarev]

Looks like I mixed up the Coalition with Msta.

[bk316]

Even the Coalition has 10.

This is not a coalition analogue and not revenge but a hyacinth (2s5).
Look carefully directly at the copy. And just in terms of rate of fire.
That's just such a tool kraz should deploy very quickly.

[Amateur]

Quote: Sentry73

No, plant them. Artem is already riveting them with might and main. They work in three shifts. And it is 155 mm.
Reply

Have you notified the plant itself? And then on their website http://www.artem.ua/ru/novosti
there is nothing like this in the "products" section.

[vanavatny]

To comply with the standards, it is necessary to bury KRAZ, replacing it with a more affordable truck ...

[Kibl]

What? 60 km.? And where is the crew-calculation protection and what is the ACS after that, it's more like a jihad car with a big, big gun.

[DRM]

Quote: KIBL

What? 60 km.? And where is the crew-calculation protection and what is the ACS after that, it's more like a jihad car with a big, big gun.

In other words, do you think that this self-propelled gun is worse than the Geocint that was used before? After all, this is a step forward compared to towed artillery.

[bk316]

After all, this is a step forward compared to towed artillery.

That's right.
Only hyacinth (2a36) has long been different - 2s5, 2s5m and
YES, I think this crap is worse than 2s5m1

[23424636]

Glad for KZTS, the plant was unique and made its own machine, K 1975, from a huge range of heavy machines for cutting helical spline channels of shafts up to 10 meters in length from 80 to 205 mm. The Germans (Germany) at one time bought there more than 20 similar machines under their own brand. Deep-boring machines for this plant were not the main nomenclature. In general, Kramatorsk is strategically more expensive than Donetsk by a factor of 2, but this is lyrics.