Poland changes Mi-17 helicopters to Sikorsky S-70i International Black Hawk

Poland changes Mi-17 helicopters to Sikorsky S-70i International Black Hawk

Multipurpose helicopters Sikorsky S-70i International Black Hawk, transferred to the Polish MTR


Poland received the first four multi-purpose helicopters Sikorsky S-70i International Black Hawk. The solemn ceremony of the transfer of cars took place on December 20 at the 1st transport aviation Polish Air Force Base at Warsaw Airport.

Helicopters were built at the Polish aircraft manufacturer Lockheed Martin Sikorsky PZL-Mielec in Mielec according to the contract for the purchase of four S-70i helicopters for special operations forces, concluded on January 25, 2019. The agreement provides an option for four more helicopters.

These machines are the first Black Hawk family helicopters to enter service with the Polish army. All four helicopters will be delivered as part of the 7th squadron of special operations of the Polish Air Force, where they will be operated, primarily in the interests of the Polish GROM special operations group. The S-70i Black Hawk squadron will replace the Soviet / Russian Mi-17s.


It is noted that although the helicopters are formally handed over to the Polish Ministry of Defense, they will not enter the squadron until the end of 2020. All this time they will be equipped and retrofitted.

The S-70i International Black Hawk helicopter is an export version of the famous UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter.

The Polish company Sikorsky PZL-Mielec has been producing S-70i Black Hawk helicopters since 2010. However, to date, the Polish armed forces have not acquired S-70i helicopters, and only in 2018-2019, three such helicopters were delivered to the Polish police.
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  1. Gray brother 25 December 2019 14: 59 New
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    The photo in the article is so-so, this one is better:

    1. TermNachTer 25 December 2019 15: 59 New
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      And how many Mi-8/17 are they going to replace? And the retraining of staff and other nishtyaki? Someone thought that it would cost pshek?
      1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 16: 22 New
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        They are gradually becoming NATO standards! Without distortions as in Ukraine! They understand that you cannot immediately replace Soviet weapons! And in terms of finance, I don’t think it will be expensive! The US and NATO defense ministries give grants, in general they help as they can!
        1. TermNachTer 25 December 2019 18: 30 New
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          NATO standards are very expensive. While Poland sits on subsidies from Brussels and Washington, it is still bearable. Tomorrow the mattress buns, for some reason, are over - what's next?
          1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 18: 33 New
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            Nothing will use what is! Do not forget that in Poland they are launching more and more industries for the production of components! And about the high cost, so everything is expensive, as for updating weapons!
      2. Pedrodepackes 25 December 2019 17: 08 New
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        Quote: TermNachTER
        Someone thought that it would cost pshek?

        And how much did the Mi-8 and personnel cost them? And so
        Helicopters built at the Polish aircraft manufacturer Lockheed Martin Sikorsky PZL-Mielec
        they don’t buy, what kind of thread is a banana republic, but they do it themselves. Well done!
        1. TermNachTer 25 December 2019 18: 28 New
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          Full cycle from steel sheet to finished product or screwdriver assembly? Despite the fact that once Poland itself built helicopters.
          1. Pedrodepackes 25 December 2019 18: 53 New
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            Quote: TermNachTER
            once Poland itself built helicopters.

            under a license from the USSR, as well as now under a license from the USA, it is building helicopters and airplanes. No need to ulcerate. Poland’s industry is on the rise and is in demand all over the world.
            1. TermNachTer 25 December 2019 19: 12 New
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              What is the industry in Poland? Those tears that remained from socialism. The Pshekam were left with what the gay people did not want to do. The Polish "falcon" helicopters, although made with an eye on the USSR, are completely independent development.
              1. Pedrodepackes 25 December 2019 21: 04 New
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                Quote: TermNachTER
                What is the industry in Poland?
                you just want to throw substance on the fan.
                The sixth largest economy in the European Union and the largest among the former members of the eastern bloc and the new members of the European Union.
                The country's main export products include machinery, electronic equipment, vehicles, furniture and plastics.
                In 2014, the Polish economy grew by 3,3%, and in 2015 by 3,8%.
                And this state is practically devoid of minerals (excluding brown coals) we would have such tears.
                1. TermNachTer 25 December 2019 22: 23 New
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                  Are you again sculpting tsifirki? To assemble refrigerators and washing machines from Korean spare parts and furniture from the Bandera forest is not an industry. And I want to remind you that all this is for American loans, there would be no mattress irrevocable loans in the 90s, and there would be no gross Polyand.
                  1. Moonsund 25 December 2019 23: 55 New
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                    This is not an industry. And then what is industry?
                    1. TermNachTer 26 December 2019 20: 05 New
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                      Industry is metallurgy, mechanical engineering, mining, etc. A screwdriver assembly is a banana republic, but the truth is in the center of Europe.
                  2. Pedrodepackes 26 December 2019 08: 02 New
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                    Quote: TermNachTER
                    And I want to remind you that all this is for American loans

                    and all industry in the world is developing with borrowed money, incl. and the US industry, is not an exception, and the industry of Poland, which developed on the money of CMEA (mainly the USSR) and what?
                    Quote: TermNachTER
                    To assemble refrigerators and washing machines from Korean spare parts and furniture from the Bandera forest is not an industry.

                    This discovery may be for you, but most of the factories consist of assembly shops, and buys accessories from third-party manufacturers (usually Chinese) and another question: what kind of wood do you need to make furniture from, what would it be industry?
          2. n0001 25 December 2019 22: 43 New
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            Polish airlines are now in the supply chain of many international concerns. Airbus, Leonardo, Sikorsky, Pratt and Whitney. In Poland, the designs of the PZL W-3 Sokół and SW 4 SOLO (unmanned RAUS helicopter) are being developed.
      3. Piramidon 25 December 2019 21: 45 New
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        Quote: TermNachTER
        Someone thought that it would cost pshek?

        Are you worried about their budget? Yes, even let everyone rearm. What do we need?
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  2. rocket757 25 December 2019 15: 00 New
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    The horse is proven ... here are the buns, for the beloved ... in short, the very one.
  3. Mountain shooter 25 December 2019 15: 01 New
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    In my opinion, we are "in parallel." Even though the imperial fighters from Star Wars laughing
  4. Lord of the Sith 25 December 2019 15: 03 New
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    Black Hawk Down?)))
  5. Amateur 25 December 2019 15: 05 New
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    In the middle of Panenka? Or did the men shred them?
    1. 777-3-59-97 25 December 2019 16: 00 New
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      In the middle of Panenka? Or did the men shred them?

      Not at all. This is one undercover scout. laughing laughing
  6. stalki 25 December 2019 15: 05 New
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    “Kurvy” they are in Africa ... and the point is not even in helicopters, but in the “position” of the country.
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 16: 24 New
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      And what should be the position? The USA did not occupy Poland and did not impose its own order! They decide what position to choose! Or to be poor partners of the Russian Federation or a developed country in the European Union!
      1. Slavs 25 December 2019 18: 25 New
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        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        USA

        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        did not impose their order

        Never and nowhere))) Especially in the Commonwealth ... That nikada ... You sho ...

        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        They decide what position to choose!

        That kaneshno themselves, etozh Poland ...
        1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 18: 30 New
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          And did not suppress the uprising of the Poles for their freedom!
          1. cat Rusich 25 December 2019 22: 45 New
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            Recall the Galician massacre of 1846. Short description: during the Krakow uprising of 1846, the Austrian authorities paid the Galician peasants for the CUTED heads of the gentry (up to 3 dead, 000% of the looted estates). Yakub Shelia - the personification of the uprising.
            1. cat Rusich 28 December 2019 22: 38 New
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              The Galician massacre is a historical fact. The Poles should remember the sections of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the 18th century took place with the participation of Prussia and Austria, in the 20th century 3 Reich - WESTERN neighbor of Poland captured the indigenous Polish lands. Disagreeing with this, the inhabitants of Poland may demand from Ukraine back the "Eastern Chairs" of the illegally occupied USSR (Lviv, Ternopol ...). Poland can also return Silesia, South East Prussia and other German lands that were seized from Germany following WWII.
      2. stalki 25 December 2019 23: 57 New
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        The USA did not occupy Poland and did not impose its own order! They decide what position to choose! Or to be poor partners of the Russian Federation or a developed country in the European Union!
        Are you this to me? The fact that FSIs never and nobody? Let it not be me, I’m empty on these words, I don’t even pay attention, go hang noodles on other ears laughing laughing laughing
  7. Journalist 25 December 2019 15: 12 New
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    Well, it’s not quite a full replacement. Since, based on capacity, for each Mi-17 you need to buy a pair of hawks, this is a minimum. Well, good luck with wasting taxpayer money! )))
    1. kupitman 25 December 2019 15: 40 New
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      I think everything is simple here - a plant in Poland. and these are taxes, jobs, etc. But mi17 we are unlikely to give them for construction
  8. Mouse 25 December 2019 15: 12 New
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    The master is a master ... a flag in his hands ....
  9. Fedorov 25 December 2019 15: 19 New
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    Seven helicopters in 9 years - this is the progress of gentlemen. I'm already afraid of Poland, I’ll go to the basement to hide. Although they do not even reach. Well, judging by the fact that GDP flies on the MI-8 modification, I would regret the Poles. In what position should they be before the mattresses?
    1. voyaka uh 25 December 2019 15: 38 New
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      The plant in Poland today has assembled 142 S-70i helicopters.
      Most of all for Turkey - about 100.
      1. Fedorov 25 December 2019 16: 03 New
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        And why did the Turks so fucked up? Normal orders, why not organize production at home, especially Turkey is more than Poland a strategic partner in NATO. Anyway, there was. Although I did not delve into.
      2. Comrade Michael 26 December 2019 00: 14 New
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        So what? So their assembly in half a year can be arranged, even in an open field ... This does not mean anything at all.
  10. Azazelo 25 December 2019 15: 57 New
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    And it’s great, the more expensive shit equipment you buy, the easier it will be to pile on you
    1. Finn 25 December 2019 16: 53 New
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      Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky did not do shit like all Russian aircraft designers. And the disciples do not do it. It’s a pity that he immigrated. He died in 72, why he taught the Americans to make good helicopters, he doesn’t care, but we don’t really.
  11. Comrade Michael 26 December 2019 00: 06 New
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    If there are helicopter pilots here, like me, then they understand that this is a purely political decision, and technically the S-70 cannot in any way replace the Mi-17 .... Simply by any parameters. Neither the volume and dimensions of the cargo compartment, nor the carrying capacity, nor the stat ceiling .... I attribute the session of mass self-satisfaction over the obsolete S-70 to illiteracy. This order, of course, saved the Polish factory from bankruptcy for a while, but did not completely rule it out ... There are no competences for the design and development of units, a purely screwdriver assembly. B-3 of them is our Mi-3, and a new screw for the B-3 was also developed at KB Mil in 1998 ... Well, they don’t have design engineers, there are no engines and there will be no technology for the production of an electronic engine control unit. .. Russia has.
    1. Journalist 26 December 2019 08: 58 New
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      News journalism, unfortunately, never provides at least the slightest analysis. This is partly due to the genre itself, but mainly due to the lack of time in the modern realities of the information space - the news must be hot, otherwise it is considered obsolete. But, in a good way, the material lacks the most important thing - the answer to the question "Why?". Poland changes “Mi” to “S” - why? After all, if in the heading write "We change grenade launchers to automatic machines", everyone will ask - why?
    2. GibSoN 26 December 2019 20: 54 New
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      If there are helicopter pilots here, like me, then they understand that this is a purely political decision, and technically the S-70 cannot replace the Mi-17 in any way ....
      Here you are absolutely right! At what in all aspects and from all sides! A hawk cannot replace either Mi-17, not Mi-8 ... as well as everything created on the basis of Mi-8. This, in general, is obvious even to those who are not very driven in technical aspects .. Actually, in the same way, not a single modification of the Mi-8 (17, 18,19,100500) will ever replace a hawk. This is just a different class of helicopters, with different tasks and goals. Actually, the replacement of the hawk in the Russian Federation, the so-called Ka-60 (62), was never born .. Apparently because it is so simple that it is better to make much more complex Mi-8 modifications ...
      PS TTX who has more, more relevant for aircraft, but not helicopters. They have completely different tasks and goals. If you had even a little insight into the essence, you would have understood that the Mi-8 and Black Hawk are turntables of different classes! Which are created, completely for different tasks.

      If there are helicopter pilots like me
      Seriously? Is a helicopter pilot writing such a game?
      1. Comrade Michael 27 December 2019 14: 35 New
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        You have game too, so what? Murzilka wrote just a bunch of general words from the magazine. Although I still plus you. But maybe I still know something that you don’t know? Could it be? S-70 and Ka-62 to put in one class? It's enchanting ... I especially like repetition of tasks, tasks of tasks ...) Here's how you imagine the beginning of designing, interesting? They bring a list of tasks and rushed))) Kindergarten. I did not fly, I worked in KB. And by the way, I saw Sikorsky’s son personally. As well as the son or grandson of Pyasetskiy (founder of the longitudinal scheme).
        1. GibSoN 27 December 2019 19: 15 New
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          You have game too, so what?
          Not what. I didn’t say anywhere that I am a helicopter pilot.
          But maybe I still know something that you don’t know?
          Why the question? There’s nothing to argue about. I'm just sure! What you definitely know is not just something, but quite a lot of everything that I do not know. This, however, is logical, as it were.
          S-70 and Ka-62 to put in one class? It's enchanting ...
          What is enchanting? What is another vert in the Russian Federation that would suit the spectrum of tasks better?
          That's how you imagine the beginning of design, I wonder?
          Yes, I imagine in different ways. What is the difference what I imagine there? I am not a designer or helicopter designer. Why is this at all?