Romanian mat, or Sacrifice the President

Romanian mat, or Sacrifice the President
Western media called them simply: Gorbi and Chau


To the sounds of the International


The execution of two elderly people became the bloody finale of the chess game of "velvet revolutions" in Eastern Europe. Romanian "revolutionaries" sacrificed their president exactly 30 years ago, on December 25, 1989. After that, only Stalinist Albania still held on, and even then only a year - until November 1990.

And the decisive factor in those events was, of course, the notorious Gorbachev "perestroika". In the spirit of the notorious "new thinking", it led not only to the rapid curtailment of political and economic cooperation with the socialist countries, but also to the paradoxical support of the anti-socialist opposition in them. Which together predetermined, or rather, significantly accelerated the collapse of East European socialism.

According to official estimates by the leaders of the PRC, DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos (1989-1993), which are still socialist, the consequences of political and economic mistakes made from the beginning - the middle of the 60s and later by the authorities of the socialist countries of Eastern Europe quickly worsened due to with Soviet "perestroika" and "new thinking."

They only more clearly indicated the accelerated cessation of economic and military-political cooperation between the USSR and those countries. But in those of them where the authorities tried to withstand such detrimental external trends, Moscow decided to support anti-socialist movements. This particularly affected Romania and the GDR, which even Western experts who sympathize with the first and at the same time the last president of the USSR admit.

However, the bloody den was perpetrated for some reason precisely in relation to the head of Romania. Most likely, he was never forgiven for publicly condemning the entire post-Stalinist Soviet policy, and not just "perestroika."


Nicolae Ceausescu, as you know, even intended to, according to his proposal at the last XIV Congress of the Romanian Communist Party (November 20-25, 1989), convene no later than December 1989 the international forum of the Communist Parties in Bucharest to collectively condemn "perestroika". Did not have time. But Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu still managed to sing the first verse of the Communist International before shooting.

But a communist must


The conflict between the Romanian communists and the Soviet ripened long before the mid-1980s. Shortly after the XX Congress of the CPSU, in 1958, the Romanian leadership achieved the withdrawal of Soviet troops from the country. And the Romanian media, starting from 1956 until the coup, periodically complained about the "subjective assessment of Khrushchev IV Stalin and the Stalin period in the USSR and many socialist countries of Eastern Europe."

10 years later, in the autumn of 1968, shortly after the “Prague Spring”, Bucharest quite officially took a firmly negative stance on the notorious military operation “Danube”. Protests against the entry of Soviet, as well as Polish and German troops into Czechoslovakia spilled out even onto the streets of the Romanian capital and major cities.

N. Ceausescu very explicitly refused to support the position of the USSR in its conflicts with the PRC and Albania. In fact, in response, Moscow in the early 70s refused pipeline supplies of oil and gas to Yugoslavia and Austria in transit through Romania. Soviet hydrocarbons were pumped through Hungary and Czechoslovakia. True, the USSR-Romania-Bulgaria-Greece gas pipeline was soon built, but Sofia received higher transit payments from it than Bucharest.

Romania deliberately demonstratively developed relations with the PRC, DPRK and Albania, "non-pro-Soviet" as with Israel, with Pinochet’s regime in Chile, with Polpot’s Cambodia and Egyptian leader Anwar Sadat, who did not hide his sympathy for Hitler. In addition, the Romanian authorities refused to inform Moscow of the negotiations between Nicolae Ceausescu and the PRC leadership in Beijing in 1971, 1973. and in Bucharest in 1978, with Kim Il Sung in Pyongyang in 1978, with Paul Then in Bucharest and Phnom Penh (1977-78).


Nicolae Ceausescu and Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres

All these facts and factors almost led to an open conflict between socialist Romania and the USSR at the turn of the 60s and 70s of the last century. In this regard, the leadership of the CPR (Socialist Republic of Romania) and personally N. Ceausescu voluntarily or involuntarily became a virtually “mishandled” ally of the West in organizing the Warsaw Pact and the CMEA.

Romanian leaders since the mid-60s have become frequent guests of Western governments. For example, the US President and Secretary of State - Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger - made a triumphant visit to Bucharest shortly after the Sino-Soviet conflict on Damansky Island; shortly before, Ceausescu made an equally solemn visit to France, where Charles de Gaulle was still president (until May 1969).

It is not surprising that Romania then began to receive growing Western financial and economic assistance, including soft loans from the IMF. Where it, the only pro-Soviet socialist country, was taken in 1977 (soon Poland and Hungary were also recorded in the IMF).

Moreover, since the late 70s in Romania (at a special plant in the city of Pitesti in the south of the country), with the help of the Federal Republic of Germany, France, China, Israel, and Pakistan, the atomic weapon. Thus, N. Ceausescu demonstrated to Moscow the desire, as they say, for self-sufficient, and at the same time high-power defense capability of the country. By the end of the 80s, nuclear charges were already preparing to be launched into series, but a sharp deterioration in the socio-economic situation in the country forced to interrupt the project.

Bucharest under siege


The economic obstruction of Romania by the USSR and its allies (especially Bulgaria, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia) has been steadily increasing since the late 70s. And since 1987, the West began to draw the same line, taking into account the stiff opposition of Bucharest to Gorbachev’s politics.

The situation for Romania was aggravated by the disintegration of Yugoslavia that began, as well as Beijing's easing of confrontation with Moscow, which took place against the backdrop of the active development of political and economic relations with the United States.


In young Nikolai it is difficult to guess the future "conductor"

And the Romanian leader stubbornly continued to sharpen criticism of Gorbachev’s policy, increasingly trying on the title of “conductor” - a leader, a leader like the Italian “Duce”. He insisted on convening a world forum of communist parties in Bucharest, including the Stalinist-Maoist, to condemn it. But Moscow naturally rejected this proposal, which was confirmed by Gorbachev during his last meeting with Ceausescu on December 4, 1989 in Moscow.

At the same time, N. Ceausescu ensured that Romania paid almost 1987% (nearly 1989 billion dollars) of its debt to the West in 95-20. But, of course, with obvious consequences for the economy and living standards in the country. It is clear that under the prevailing conditions, the economy and especially the social sphere of the country “collapsed”, and this increased the opposition of the population and, accordingly, intensified the repressions of the Securitate (Romanian KGB).

Meanwhile, the subversive actions of the West, the USSR and most of the "fraternal" European social countries against Romania intensified. They included sabotage at a number of enterprises, railways, and energy facilities.

Here is the testimony of Simon Stephanie, who in 1989-90 served as head of the Albanian KGB ("Configrimi"):

"We received, including from colleagues from the DPRK and the GDR, and transmitted information to Bucharest about meetings of emissaries of the KGB, CIA and BND (intelligence of Germany. - Approx. Aut.), Held in 1988-89 in Hungary and Bulgaria for the plan for overthrowing Ceausescu was also transmitted. Data on the transfer of weapons and special groups to the CPR to provoke unrest was transmitted. We offered Securitate closer cooperation, but its leadership agreed to this only in early November 1989, which was already too late for the CPR " .


Why did the Securitate so late agree to such a Tirana proposal? Probably because there were already coups in her leadership? The coup in Romania began on December 17 with the provocative firing of special groups in the form of “Securitate” against residents and demonstrators in the city of Timisoara in northwestern Romania.


10 days before, the president of the country, visiting Tehran, tried to persuade the Iranian authorities to urgent financial and political assistance to Romania. But he did not get a clear answer. And four days before the coup, the North Korean embassy in Bucharest, according to some sources, suggested that the Ceausescu couple should evacuate North Korea to North Korea by plane, but the conductor refused. He often said in November-December 89th: "They will not dare to touch me." But Ceausescu was mistaken ...

All this, taken together, quickly led to a bloody denouement - the shooting of the Ceausescu couple under a judicial screen. And in the presence of Reuters correspondents. But in storiesas you know, nothing happens without consequences. So in the case of the execution of the Ceausescu couple - almost all involved in it subsequently either committed suicide or died under strange circumstances ...
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  1. ssergey1978 28 December 2019 05: 28 New
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    If this character lived and worked according to the norms of the civilized world, not like a savage (a conductor - damn), then he would have quietly lived on a well-deserved retirement. The country would be ruled by young politicians. But no, all limbs hold on to power, everyone is tired of everything, the country is in ruin, and he wants to steer everything. Correctly shot him by another science.
    1. Same lech 28 December 2019 05: 41 New
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      If this character lived and worked according to the norms of the civilized world, not like a savage (a conductor - damn), then he would have quietly lived on a well-deserved pension.

      Oh well ... what naivety ... like if you lived like a rabbit in a pack of wolves, wolves would feed him a sweet carrot ... yeah, to be more tasty.
      Everyone who follows the lead of this very civilized world without options becomes its food ... so it was with Gaddafi, Milosevic, Hussein ... they all believed the sweet promises of Western politicians and paid their lives for it and their countries were bombed in the Stone Age.
      The great Eun and Assad is a vivid example of how you can survive in this civilized viper.
      It bothers me that Russia is in a compromising position in the West ...
      therefore, she lost the battle with WADA and transit through Ukraine.
      Our enemies seeing this Achilles place will now hit this weak spot of our country.
      It is simply vitally necessary to amend article 4, paragraph 15, in the Russian constitution ... we won’t be able to win a fight with the West using its Roman legal procedure ... how can we win a game with a crook playing on his table and according to his rules.
      1. ssergey1978 28 December 2019 05: 46 New
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        The head of state can be at the helm for no more than 8 years (proved by science) if stagnation and collapse begin more. (I wanted to say that). The head who at the helm of 20-30 annoys everyone Gaddafi, Saddam is an example. But Assad and Kim are still ahead
        1. Same lech 28 December 2019 05: 51 New
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          The head of state can be at the helm for no more than 8 years (proven by science)

          Oh well, and this was accidentally proved by non-English scientists smile from MI-6 or the CIA ... full of states in which leaders rule for long periods ... take the same Merkel.
          1. knn54 28 December 2019 12: 33 New
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            And the three “terms” of Roosevelt.a.
            Ceausescu DID pay off debts with the IMF.
            Regarding relations with the USSR, the merit of N.S. Khrushchev. Well and Gorbachev.
            To the honor of the Ceauşescu. They refused to put on blindfolds, and unlike the judges and members of the firing squad, who put on “balaclava”
            After such “joint” operations (in particular against “apartheid” in South Africa and Southern Rhodesia) with the BND, the CIA should not be surprised at the increase in the number of “moles” in the KGB,
            1. Octopus 28 December 2019 13: 19 New
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              Quote: knn54
              And the three “terms” of Roosevelt.a.

              Four.

              Yes, it was a jamb, the Americans fixed it immediately after Roosevelt, in the 47th, 22nd amendment.
          2. Leonid Anatolevich 28 December 2019 15: 06 New
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            Merkel, Roosevelt, Stalin and Putin are detained in power under various pretexts - the methods are also different. Some achieve outstanding results, like Merkel and Stalin, others with the help of multi-paths in international politics.
        2. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 22 New
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          You're right! Always need a change of power, competition, fresh blood, ideas! By the way, Putin overheated Brezhnev! Gaddafi will sit out soon!
          1. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 11: 46 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            By the way, Putin overheated Brezhnev! Gaddafi will sit out soon

            You, dearie, will not break off the place of a beggar asking for alms at the Spassky Gate ....
            Envy silently ....
            laughing
            1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 47 New
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              Well, that I envy the poor Russian people! The longer he sits, the better his friends and the worse the country! It is profitable for us! wink
              1. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 11: 54 New
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                Specify - to whom is this "you"?
                1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 55 New
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                  This is not for the "Russian World"
                  1. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 11: 57 New
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                    Well yes....
                    Persons of a special nationality will not succeed in mowing usk ...
                    1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 58 New
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                      You are mistaken! I am not a Jew! And unlike you, I do not divide people by nationality!
                      1. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 12: 08 New
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                        Nothing can be worse than a malan ...
                      2. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 08 New
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                        Well, you know better in the Russian Federation! You qualify for nationality
                      3. Andrey VOV 30 December 2019 11: 58 New
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                        And did you register here on the 28th specifically to kick in? There are a lot of you like that, it’s better to go out for good, you bastard
                  2. unknown 29 December 2019 10: 32 New
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                    In ancient languages, the words "Jew" and "Aryan" are not only pronounced the same, but they have one meaning: "man." The words “Jew” and “European” are just short and long versions of the same word. The creation of a religious sect with signs of class of a separate people is a special topic.
                2. Leonid Anatolevich 28 December 2019 15: 08 New
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                  Are you like the beholder? A long time ago you were not sent to
                  1. stalkerwalker 30 December 2019 00: 07 New
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                    And who are you to threaten?
    2. Proxima 28 December 2019 15: 17 New
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      Quote: ssergey1978
      The head of state can be at the helm for no more than 8 years (proven by science)

      Peter the Great and Stalin, with their rule of stone on stone, do not leave this "scientific evidence".
      1. unknown 29 December 2019 10: 37 New
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        Peter the First is a literary character.
        Stalin is a big question.
        On the available photo and film materials depicting Lenin, EIGHT similar, but DIFFERENT people.
        Apparently, the prototype of "Lenin" was Nikolai Karpov, who, together with Trotsky, arrived from the United States to carry out the "socialist" revolution. Depicted in the photo "Lenin at the Spill." Killed in 1918.
    3. unknown 29 December 2019 10: 27 New
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      Not quite right. After the seizure of power, the conspirators are able to hold it for no more than three generations (25 * 3 = 75 years). An example of the USSR, if we take it from the generally accepted date of 1917.
      Further degradation. US example. After the Roosevelt assassination, almost all presidents are descendants of the conspirators. On Trump, it's over.
    4. Vol4ara 1 January 2020 12: 34 New
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      Quote: ssergey1978
      The head of state can be at the helm for no more than 8 years (proved by science) if stagnation and collapse begin more. (I wanted to say that). The head who at the helm of 20-30 annoys everyone Gaddafi, Saddam is an example. But Assad and Kim are still ahead

      But what about Comrade Stalin? Was there devastation under him? Stagnation?
      1. D-ug 1 January 2020 16: 38 New
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        Quote: Vol4ara
        But what about Comrade Stalin? Was there devastation under him? Stagnation?

        It was with him that this was all. If it were not for WWII, his socialism would have survived him for a short while. And the USSR would collapse back in the 2s. And precisely because of hopeless backwardness.
        1. Vol4ara 2 January 2020 02: 35 New
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          Quote: D-ug
          Quote: Vol4ara
          But what about Comrade Stalin? Was there devastation under him? Stagnation?

          It was with him that this was all. If it were not for WWII, his socialism would have survived him for a short while. And the USSR would collapse back in the 2s. And precisely because of hopeless backwardness.

          If not for the Second World War, which brought down the economy and drove into the demographic hole in the USSR, it destroyed half of the country. Is there a head? The level of logic is minus 2. There are facts - forward to the table. There are no facts, then it is better to be silent.
          1. D-ug 2 January 2020 11: 30 New
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            Quote: Vol4ara
            If not for the Second World War, which brought down the economy and drove into the demographic hole in the USSR, it destroyed half of the country.

            You are more communists about different pits there listen.
            To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear? For the Bolsheviks in the decaying USSR, the war was precisely their mother.
            - There was no economy in the USSR in June 1941. Because in the 30s, not industrialization was carried out, but extensification. It could not be otherwise, since in December 1927 the USSR switched to the regime of “Soviet power” and the regime of “Soviet socialism”. Those. from the neo-feudal economic system to the slave system. And it was a way to a dead end.
            - a significant population decline during the war years (20% of the pre-war period) allowed the Bolsheviks to solve the food problem. Sown areas remained the same, crop yields also did not change, but the number of eaters decreased significantly. Therefore, in addition to 1946 (then there was a structural reorganization of the USSR economy) there were no more famines. And in the 30s, famine was a permanent state of the USSR.
            - About the "devastation" is also nonsense, because there was nothing special to destroy. The Bolsheviks themselves destroyed almost everything that they could with their "management".
            - after the war, in the form of trophies of the USSR, he received something that in peacetime he would never have received for any money — advanced technologies, advanced equipment, and specialist Germans. It was these Germans in the late 40s who carried out scientific and technical research in the USSR, the result of which was REAL industrialization of the USSR in the 50s. And it was precisely this industrialization of the 50s (its results) that allowed the USSR to stretch right up to 1991. It was just that the German Gostarbeiters set the USSR in the 50s with a quick start. And then they left for Germany. For a while, the car moved forward by inertia. And then she stopped - the slaves were incapable of productive labor. What with hands, what with head.
            And without a war, the USSR would continue to degrade and die of starvation even in the 40s, and also until the mid-50s. And for a short time he would survive the architect of "Soviet socialism" Dzhugashvili. Those. the war extended the existence of “Soviet socialism” and the USSR for 35 years. But how much does not twist the rope ....
            1. Vol4ara 2 January 2020 14: 30 New
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              Quote: D-ug
              Quote: Vol4ara
              If not for the Second World War, which brought down the economy and drove into the demographic hole in the USSR, it destroyed half of the country.

              You are more communists about different pits there listen.
              To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear? For the Bolsheviks in the decaying USSR, the war was precisely their mother.
              - There was no economy in the USSR in June 1941. Because in the 30s, not industrialization was carried out, but extensification. It could not be otherwise, since in December 1927 the USSR switched to the regime of “Soviet power” and the regime of “Soviet socialism”. Those. from the neo-feudal economic system to the slave system. And it was a way to a dead end.
              - a significant population decline during the war years (20% of the pre-war period) allowed the Bolsheviks to solve the food problem. Sown areas remained the same, crop yields also did not change, but the number of eaters decreased significantly. Therefore, in addition to 1946 (then there was a structural reorganization of the USSR economy) there were no more famines. And in the 30s, famine was a permanent state of the USSR.
              - About the "devastation" is also nonsense, because there was nothing special to destroy. The Bolsheviks themselves destroyed almost everything that they could with their "management".
              - after the war, in the form of trophies of the USSR, he received something that in peacetime he would never have received for any money — advanced technologies, advanced equipment, and specialist Germans. It was these Germans in the late 40s who carried out scientific and technical research in the USSR, the result of which was REAL industrialization of the USSR in the 50s. And it was precisely this industrialization of the 50s (its results) that allowed the USSR to stretch right up to 1991. It was just that the German Gostarbeiters set the USSR in the 50s with a quick start. And then they left for Germany. For a while, the car moved forward by inertia. And then she stopped - the slaves were incapable of productive labor. What with hands, what with head.
              And without a war, the USSR would continue to degrade and die of starvation even in the 40s, and also until the mid-50s. And for a short time he would survive the architect of "Soviet socialism" Dzhugashvili. Those. the war extended the existence of “Soviet socialism” and the USSR for 35 years. But how much does not twist the rope ....

              Facts, bring facts, empty words for me that the wind, if you want to prove something, then give numbers, they are more eloquent than all words. And the numbers are against you, trouble.
              1. D-ug 2 January 2020 14: 47 New
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                Quote: Vol4ara
                Facts, bring facts, empty words for me that the wind

                I do not know what facts to bring you.
                Gagarin, AK, PM, Su / Mig / Yak, atomic bomb against squalid "donkeys", shop, T-34, three-inch, PPSh, etc.
                Quote: Vol4ara
                And the numbers are against you, trouble.

                We know these "numbers."
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                  1. D-ug 2 January 2020 18: 43 New
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                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    You have stunning facts.

                    Common to the whole world, except the former USSR.
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    dry, instant, Yakovlev who founded their design bureaus in 30 years under Stalin, AK and PM developed in 40 years under Stalin, an atomic bomb created under the leadership of Beria under Stalin,

                    This was all done by the German guest workers. AK, PM, atomic bomb, normal aircraft.
                    There are only "sonorous names" Soviet. And nothing more.
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    rotive of the best tanks of war T34 85

                    Respected.
                    T-34/85, like other Soviet self-propelled guns, was armed NOT with a TANK, but with an anti-aircraft gun.
                    Those. even on this basis alone he was not a tank, even in principle.
                    And to call this miracle in feathers not even the best, but simply “a good tank”, this is the height of arrogance. But the Bolsheviks were arrogant, it is a fact.
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    and some of the best aircraft in the final stages of the La7 war,

                    It’s funny. And what was good about La 7?
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    You do not know the story, you did not even bother to google your "facts". And yes, you don’t know the numbers either.

                    Whose cow would be mumbling. Memorizing Soviet mantras does not mean that you know history. Maybe you know "Soviet history." But real history and "Soviet history" are two different things.
                2. Vol4ara 2 January 2020 18: 33 New
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                  Quote: D-ug
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  Facts, bring facts, empty words for me that the wind

                  I do not know what facts to bring you.
                  Gagarin, AK, PM, Su / Mig / Yak, atomic bomb against squalid "donkeys", shop, T-34, three-inch, PPSh, etc.
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  And the numbers are against you, trouble.

                  We know these "numbers."

                  You have stunning facts: D dry, a moment, having founded their design bureaus in 30 years under Stalin, AK and PM developed in 40 years under Stalin, an atomic bomb created under the leadership of Beria under Stalin, against the best tanks of the T34 85 war created under Stalin and One of the best aircraft of the final stage of the La7 war, in which Kozhedub shot down the first German fighter jet. You do not know the story, you did not even bother to google your "facts". And yes, you don’t know the numbers either. Listen to my advice, do not write about what you have no idea about, do not laugh yourself
        2. Yury Siritsky 21 March 2020 13: 03 New
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          Terminally ill head.
    5. skif8013 1 January 2020 16: 20 New
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      Quote: ssergey1978
      The head of state can be at the helm for no more than 8 years (proved by science) if stagnation and collapse begin more. (I wanted to say that). The head who at the helm of 20-30 annoys everyone Gaddafi, Saddam is an example. But Assad and Kim are still ahead

      Complete nonsense. Monarchies ruled for life and carried out their reforms. But if only they had changed every 8 years, then nothing good would have come of it!
      1. D-ug 1 January 2020 16: 30 New
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        Quote: skif8013
        Monarchies ruled for life and carried out their reforms.

        That is why the ruling monarchies have gone down in history. Due to the inefficiency of this form of management. In rich countries (except for the so-called "oil monarchies") the feudal system (monarchist) everywhere gave way to the capitalist one.
        And in poor countries, in different ways.
        1. skif8013 1 January 2020 19: 26 New
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          I liked your argument, but I will stay with my own. Everything takes time, but in order to do something significant in the country, in my opinion, it’s not enough for 8 years.
          1. D-ug 1 January 2020 19: 47 New
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            Quote: skif8013
            in order to make something significant in the country, in my opinion, it’s not enough for 8 years.

            Essential in the country should make the population. Hands of hired managers (executive branch). Persons in such countries do not matter much.
            This is what happens in developed (capitalist) countries.
            And in underdeveloped countries (feudal), the population is not given the right to choose. Because these countries are underdeveloped because the population in them is underdeveloped. And if such a population is given the opportunity to choose, it God knows what it picks and does. Therefore, countries with underdeveloped populations are led by personalities. Whether monarchs, "lifelong presidents," whether the name does not matter.
            Outsider countries that practice some kind of extreme stand apart. This is often the slave-owning mode of production adopted in these countries. Today there are few such countries, North Korea and Cuba. But before there were much more, the same USSR, for example.
            1. skif8013 1 January 2020 20: 43 New
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              I'm afraid for Russia this is not an option, the people are not ready for this, the thief, in any case, is not all.
            2. Iwan_de 5 January 2020 02: 19 New
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              You're cool
            3. Iwan_de 5 January 2020 02: 21 New
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              You're cool too.
              What is democracy?
              Where people choose power. And that power to other countries. Is it a democracy?
  2. Olgovich 28 December 2019 07: 48 New
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    Oh well ... what naivety ... like if you lived like a rabbit in a pack of wolves, wolves would feed him a sweet carrot ... yeah, to be more tasty.

    In Romania there was another: Ceausescu hated ALL Romanians. almost without exception.

    Compared to Romanians, Soviet citizens were simply crozas.

    In Romania, a real famine raged.
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      Quote: Olgovich
      In Romania, a real famine raged.


      Well, what incomprehensible pauses, disagreements. Where is the eating of people by the communists? I will not recognize you. Lose your grip.
    2. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 11: 44 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Real hunger raged in Romania

      Bullshit .... Moreover, natural ..... It remains a monument to the victims of the Romanian famine to put in Bucharest. But even the Romanians did not think of this.
      fool
      There was a place to be an ordinary maidan, because Kohl Ceausescu decided to close debt obligations to the IMF. As a result, prices fell on enterprises. But there was no smell of hunger. The provocateurs in Timisoara began in the form of clashes with local Hungarians. There were even sacrifices. And then everything is like in Kuev in January 2014. As for the training manual. Tokma Yanyk, remembering the fate of Ceausescu, did not wait for the firing squad.
      1. Olgovich 28 December 2019 12: 18 New
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        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Bullshit .... And natural .....

        so don’t rave, what's the question? belay
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        But there was no smell of hunger.


        You need to go to Moldova in those years ..

        In Romania there was card system for food in the 1980s and poverty is golem.

        Many Moldovans have relatives in Romania. Then we went to visit them (and those from there) and loaded up to the eyeballs with oil, meat, sausages, cereals, sweets, etc.-all.

        They said that in the USSR we live as kings, in comparison with the Romanians.


        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The provocateurs in Timisoara began in the form of clashes with local Hungarians. There were even sacrifices. And then everything is like in Kuev in January 2014. As for the training manual. Tokma Yanyk, remembering the fate of Ceausescu, did not wait for the firing squad
        do not carry nonsense: all this has passed, practically, before my eyes: it was the people that he got to that who completely got it.

        If Yanyk was afraid to use force, then Ceausescu ORDERED it to be used by both the army and the specialists, but everyone hated him, he was left only with his wife. He spoke at a “popular” rally in Bucharest, where he was nearly killed. Then it started ...

        ps. do you like russophobes?
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        Not certainly in that way. Romanians had a shortage in stores; they bought large freezers and stocked up on groceries. Ceausescu came up with an electricity regime, such that the food spoiled. Romanian television broadcast 2,5 hours a day and the Romanians in Bucharest watched polls for Bulgarian television (Bucharest - Ruse ~ 80 km), so Ceausescu periodically cleaned the antennas from all the roofs under the pretext of "poor urban aesthetics."
        I wanted to destroy all rural houses and build instead of them urban dwellings (Khrushchev).
        That's why the Romanians Ceausescu hated.
    3. RUSS 28 December 2019 16: 38 New
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      ALL Romanians hated Ceausescu. almost without exception.

      During his reign, the Romanians watched TV no more than two or three hours a day, received food on cards and went to empty shops, each of which adorned the portrait of the leader. While the citizens of the country tightened their belts, Ceausescu washed in a golden bath, and his dog rode around Bucharest, accompanied by a motorcade.
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      Do not forget that with a population of 15 million, during the WWII, Romania lost 1 million.200 thousand people.
      This is more than the British Empire (with colonies) and the United States in total. And relative to the population, one and a half times more in percentage terms than Hungary.
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      Quote: Olgovich
      In Romania there was something else: ALL Romanians hated Ceausescu. almost without exception.

      But now the pilgrimage of Romanian losers to his grave.
      Still, for losers, socialism is better. Under socialism, they do not so acutely feel their wretchedness.
  3. Tuk77 28 December 2019 11: 31 New
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    But it is impossible to clarify when it was Gaddafi, Milosevic and Hussein who believed in the sweet assumptions of Western politicians?
    At what dates of what year did this happen?
    After what statements by Western politicians?
    Extremely curious.
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    .so happened with Gaddafi, Milosevic, Hussein ...

    Of all the leaders of the countries of popular democracy, only this was shot, and this was done by his own army. Deserves, by the way, respect. Neither the Soviet nor the Russian army ever took responsibility for the fate of the country.

    There were claims to Honecker, quite rightly, but the West Germans would definitely not have shot him.

    Of all the heads of the countries of popular democracy, a monument, apparently, one Jaruzelsky deserved.
  5. RUSS 28 December 2019 16: 41 New
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    In 1989, in the town of Timisoara, inhabited mainly by Hungarians, small protests broke out due to the arrest of a local priest, which gradually spilled out of the city. The atmosphere quickly escalated: strikes and demonstrations swept the whole country. On December 20, Ceausescu flew to Iran on an official visit, but returned on the same day, as the situation had already gone out of control. On December 21, the dictator convened a rally in the Romanian capital and addressed the people with a speech stigmatizing Timisoara hooligans. However, instead of the usual applause and cheers, Ceausescu heard cries of indignation. The dictator and his wife decided to flee, but to break out of the country did not work. The military sided with the rebels and handed the couple over to the National Salvation Front Tribunal. Ceausescu was found guilty of Romanian genocide and sentenced to death. According to eyewitnesses, there was no end to the desire to enforce it. Nicholas and Elena were taken to the courtyard of the barracks and shot near the soldiers' restroom. A news anchor on a Romanian television station said live: "The Antichrist was killed on Christmas Day."
  • Cheldon 28 December 2019 06: 32 New
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    Quote: ssergey1978
    If this character lived and worked according to the norms of the civilized world, not like a savage (a conductor - damn), then he would have quietly lived on a well-deserved retirement. The country would be ruled by young politicians. But no, all limbs hold on to power, everyone is tired of everything, the country is in ruin, and he wants to steer everything. Correctly shot him by another science.

    What is the standard? When does a son replace a father as president? Or, after a husband, does a wife try to become president? Or maybe Trump is a young politician? And in the opponents of Trump is the same "young" politician. laughing Very civilized !!!
  • Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 21 New
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    The current Tsar of Russia is very similar to this character, seized power by all limbs!
    1. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 11: 34 New
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      Tell Frau Merkel about it. She will laugh. If it were not for the health that had been undermined since those most memorable years in the Komsomol of the GDR, the Chancellor would still serve a couple of terms.
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        1. IGOR GORDEEV 28 December 2019 13: 30 New
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          But what botox will come up with ...

          Go ka ... you know where.
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            Arguments dumb wink
            1. Graz 29 December 2019 01: 25 New
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              Marcus Aurelius_2
              hear wide we’ll somehow figure out who should lead Russia without you
            2. antivirus 29 December 2019 07: 14 New
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              after GDP, it will be worse for you, for sausage
      2. unknown 29 December 2019 10: 47 New
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        Effective (when the brains fall into place) age begins at 35 years.
        The "director" age (age of management) begins with 55 years.
        The age when the state of health sharply worsens, according to scientific studies, begins at 63 years. But, here everything is individual, in many respects depends on genetics.
  • Leonid Anatolevich 28 December 2019 14: 57 New
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    Without the West, these comrades cannot get a picture of the world. Some Marxists did not recognize the USSR and Romania as uniquely socialist. That is, the vertical of power was introduced into the construction of society by force, it does not and cannot have any useful use - one harm.
  • Graz 29 December 2019 01: 24 New
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    what do you say, this is one to one maidan in Kiev, the only difference is that Yanukovych carried away during his leg
  • Military Builder 30 December 2019 05: 07 New
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    If this character lived and worked according to the norms of the civilized world, not like a savage (a conductor - damn), then he would have quietly lived on a well-deserved pension.

    how is gorbachev?
  • Reptiloid 28 December 2019 05: 42 New
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    The article continues the theme of the planned destruction of the USSR and the social camp, begun by a team of authors earlier. Difficult and dimly lit time. The articles in this series are interesting to me. For a very long time I was waiting for the continuation of the topic of Khrushchev. Probably six months have passed since then. I would also like to know his other "affairs."
    1. Same lech 28 December 2019 05: 56 New
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      The article continues the theme of the planned destruction of the USSR and the social camp,

      it is logical to develop the theme of attempts to destroy Russia in the same ways ... there is a massive offensive on our country WEST ... its methods and methods of destruction are the same.
      1. apro 28 December 2019 06: 20 New
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        destroy Russia

        And actually why .... the territory of Russia has long been under control. financial flows, too. does not represent a military threat ..
        1. Dart2027 28 December 2019 06: 47 New
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          Quote: apro
          And actually why .... the territory of Russia has long been under control.

          Who?
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            Quote: Dart2027
            Quote: apro
            And actually why .... the territory of Russia has long been under control.

            Who?

            What are you comparing the ruble exchange rate with?
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              ruble exchange rate

              With "than" compare the rate of all currencies in the world. China is also running "whom"?
              1. apro 28 December 2019 06: 57 New
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                Quote: Dart2027
                China is also running "whom"?

                And you take an interest in how the PRC with its yuan turns ... the Americans are not very happy
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                  Americans are not very happy

                  And you take an interest in how Americans are happy with Putin.
                  1. apro 28 December 2019 09: 53 New
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                    I think that Putin is not the figure that bothers Amers.
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                      Quote: apro
                      not that figure that bothers amers

                      But they themselves say differently.
        2. Reptiloid 28 December 2019 06: 59 New
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          Quote: apro
          ..... And actually why .... the territory of Russia has long been under control. financial flows, too. does not represent a military threat ..
          What for? say? How could I explain so shorter? recourse
          You can use the words of a song .... socialist ...---- the refrain was such this is not enough.
          Can I ask What for? remember how someone, instead of a lemon, squeezed a canary .... That's about this.
      2. Reptiloid 28 December 2019 06: 53 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        ...... it is logical to develop the theme of attempts to destroy Russia in the same ways ... there is a massive attack on our country WEST ... its methods and methods of destruction are the same.
        How logical! It’s a pity that we got a six-month break about a corncob! Or am I missing something? request
  • Amateur 28 December 2019 06: 12 New
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    Ceausescu is the same communist as G.A. Zyuganov.
  • Van 16 28 December 2019 06: 22 New
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    It was interesting to read. Indeed, a poorly lit page of history. As far as I remember, among all the East European social leaders, Ceausescu was always a bit on his own.
    1. Olgovich 28 December 2019 07: 52 New
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      Quote: Van 16
      It was interesting to read. Indeed, a poorly lit page of history. As far as I remember, among all the East European social leaders, Ceausescu was always a bit on his own.

      Wild nationalist and pathological Russophobe
      1. apro 28 December 2019 10: 19 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        pathological russophobe

        From this place on in more detail ... what was it expressed in?
        1. Olgovich 28 December 2019 11: 13 New
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          Quote: apro
          From this place on in more detail ... what was it expressed in?

          he told Brezhnev that Russia -Romanian occupier, including Bessarabia, Russian history - LIES about their true history and is silent about Great Russian chauvinism in these lands, etc. .

          1. apro 28 December 2019 11: 51 New
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            he told Brezhnev that Russia is an occupant of the Romanian lands,

            But at the same time, he did not dispute the territorial integrity of the USSR and regularly kissed LIBrezhnev. The Russians still remember Alaska.
            1. Olgovich 29 December 2019 09: 02 New
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              But at the same time, the territorial integrity of the USSR was not disputed

              BUT AS?!

              Great Romania and a single nation from the Dniester to the Carpathians are HIS ideas that gave poisonous shoots to life and prosperity Till now.
              1. apro 29 December 2019 09: 08 New
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                But here. Officially. Or do you have something different?
                1. Olgovich 29 December 2019 10: 46 New
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                  But here. Officially. Or do you have something different?

                  I didn’t understand anything ..... request
                  1. apro 29 December 2019 11: 09 New
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                    And what is not clear. Officially, the SRR recognized the territorial integrity of the USSR. And all territorial changes following the results of the Second World War and before the destruction of the USSR did not ask questions about this .. the whole end of the sentence ....
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                      Quote: apro
                      And what is not clear. Officially, the SRR recognized the territorial integrity of the USSR. And all territorial changes following the results of the Second World War and before the destruction of the USSR I didn’t ask questions about this..the whole end of the phrase.

                      These questions were asked in the program. Great Romania Ceausescu and ACT at the PRACTICE today - creeping annexation of Moldova, citizenship there, agitation, etc.

                      Or today was born not yesterday? And when?
                      1. apro 29 December 2019 12: 14 New
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                        These questions were asked in the program of Greater Romania Ceausescu

                        When exactly? Who specifically from the Soviet leadership? What is happening today on this issue. This is to the anti-Soviet coups ...
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                        Quote: apro
                        When specifically? Who specifically from the Soviet leadership?

                        Brezhnev, bodilyu
                        Quote: apro
                        what is happening today on this issue. This is to the anti-Soviet coup ...

                        uh, no, dear!

                        YOUR done, IM and answer!
                      3. apro 29 December 2019 12: 40 New
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                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Brezhnev, bodilyu

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Brezhnev, bodilyu

                        Can I have a link?
                        This is what a fright ?? communists have done that? Destroyed the Soviet Union?
                      4. Olgovich 29 December 2019 12: 55 New
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                        Quote: apro
                        Can I have a link?

                        in google type
                        Quote: apro
                        This is what a fright ?? communists have done what?destroyed USSR CPP?

                        And who are the Martians? belay
                        Quote: apro
                        it Your hands deed. anti-advisers and revisionists with a capitalist bias. sufferers of great empires.

                        do not carry nonsense: ALL destroyers of the union are the highest bonuses of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
                      5. apro 29 December 2019 13: 10 New
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                        Google sends in the days of Antonescu. And German kings.
                        That is, the Communists in their program did not set the goal of communism but the destruction of their own country?
                        No one has yet canceled the traitors.
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                        Quote: apro
                        Google sends in the days of Antonescu. And German kings.

                        https://russian7.ru/post/edinstvo-rumynskogo-naroda-chto-chau/
                        Quote: apro
                        That is, the Communists in their program did not set the goal of communism but the destruction of their own country?

                        In a letter to Sverdlov and Trotsky of October 1, 1918, V. I. Lenin indicated that “The foundation is coming International Soviet republic.
                      7. apro 29 December 2019 13: 45 New
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                        Olgovich read what you send ...
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        In a letter to Sverdlov and Trotsky of October 1, 1918, V. I. Lenin indicated that “the foundation of an international Soviet republic is coming.

                        And this is from what side? After all, the Bolsheviks planned to destroy the USSR in 1991? You did mean it by saying that you were guilty of the destruction of the USSR ... or how do you understand?
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            Quote: Olgovich
            Quote: apro
            And what is not clear. Officially, the SRR recognized the territorial integrity of the USSR. And all territorial changes following the results of the Second World War and before the destruction of the USSR I didn’t ask questions about this..the whole end of the phrase.

            These questions were asked in the program. Great Romania Ceausescu and ACT at the PRACTICE today - creeping annexation of Moldova, citizenship there, agitation, etc.

            Or today was born not yesterday? And when?

            And here you are, Olgovich, than to rewrite the same training manual 10 times, we would be told, humanly, what kind of creeping annexation of moldavia......
            Previously, modaway builders came to us ....
            Someone became citizens of the Russian Federation, I am familiar with some, but I don’t ask anything ....
          3. Olgovich 5 January 2020 10: 53 New
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            And here you are, Olgovich, than to rewrite the same training manual 10 times, we would be told, humanly, what kind of creeping annexation of Moldova is this .....

            Passports are being handed out. Romanian history is taught. The room of heroes is cultivated, etc., etc.
          4. Reptiloid 5 January 2020 11: 05 New
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            Perhaps I myself will begin to read, both about Moldova and about Romania.
            Thank you for the answer, Olgovich, and you yourself, what is your attitude to such a Romanian program? Have you received a passport?
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            Perhaps I myself will begin to read, both about Moldova and about Romania.

            if you want to plunge: https: //point.md/ru/novosti/
            comments are particularly interesting
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Thank you for the answer, Olgovich, and you yourself, how do you feel about such a Romanian program?

            Bessarabia is part of the New Russia of Russia for me. But young people are already brought up in the spirit of Romanianism.

            Moreover, it was brought up by writers, poets, etc., intelligentsia with the COMM, TICKETS
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            I do not know, Olgovich, whether I will read from your link. Rather, no, than yes. But --- thanks. I don’t really trust other people's links, I try to search and find it myself.
            Moreover, your links are often superficial. Overlook, so to speak ...
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            Quote: Reptiloid
            I do not know, Olgovich, whether I will read from your link.

            this is a news site, plunge into what you wanted.

            read comments, what kind of fights are going on ...
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Moreover, your links are often superficial. Overlook, so to speak ...

            for example?
            and what is .... superficial? "
            and deep? lol
          8. Reptiloid 5 January 2020 21: 28 New
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            I will begin to read the history of these countries from the beginning of the 20th century. And then to the present.
            You see, time is sorely lacking and it’s not interesting to tell you every time ... Well, the last thing in my memory, for example, is Benoit House, whose photo you posted last month. If you were not in a hurry to declare this house ordinary housing of the time, but read about it, you would also know about the prince and various other residents of this house. By the way, under socialism communal apartments were made there. At the beginning of this century, I was there for work several times. Of course, after the 90s the number of communal apartments immediately began to decrease, the rich began to try to enter there.
            By the way, there is a plaque on the house ... Here is an example.
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            for example, Benoit House, whose photo you posted last month. If you were not in a hurry to declare this house an ordinary house of the time

            This is a PROFITABLE HOUSE (read what it is) and there were a LOT of them built throughout the country: Moscow, Kiev, Odessa, Yekaterinburg, etc.

            And the "Stalin" is yes, the "ordinary" house is for the "workers" lol laughing . They are completely hung with signs "gaboichkh", who lived in them lol
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Here is an example.

            An example is worthless. as we see.
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            Olgovich, I am stunned! Where am I talking about Stalin? Only about Benoit House. After all, I wrote that there is a memorial plaque on Benoit’s House, but you didn’t even read it, and it might be interesting to you. This is your superstition, to affirm something without studying, not even intending to study.
            Oh well.
            I’m reading about a Moldavian artist now. Studying at the seminary, he published the satirical magazine “Satan.” That's how his seminary got it.
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            Olgovich, I am stunned! Where am I talking about Stalin? Only about Benoit House. After all, I wrote that there is a Benoit House memorial belay board, but you didn’t even read

            Read. AND WHAT is a memorial plaque? belay
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            It’s funny to me that you are putting down cons. My minus, like Green, is many times heavier than yours. It would be difficult for you if we minus each time. Green wrote that he did not minus you. And then you would have been a "patrol" then. And from "patstol" it’s more difficult to broadcast, there are restrictions, and probably not a minus.
            What to bicker with you ---- better still read about the years 1905-1907 in Moldova and about the magazines of that time.
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            It’s funny to me that you are putting down cons. My minus, like Green, is many times heavier than yours. It would be difficult for you if we minus each time. Green wrote that he did not minus you. would you then "" patstolom "". .

            1. I cry on cons. yes
            2. Oh, are the threats gone? See Clause 1 yes
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Than with you bickering ---- better still read about the years 1905-1907 in Moldova and about the magazines of that time.

            I didn’t touch you.
            PS and-read about apartment buildings. so as not to get into a mess
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            Again, write nonsense, Olgovich. I already thought that you were finally cured, I noticed that sometimes you wrote the right things .... It is a pity that this is not so. What threats you think is incomprehensible.
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            Again, write nonsense, Olgovich. I already thought that You finally cured, noticed that sometimes you wrote the right things .... It is a pity that this is not so. What threats you think is incomprehensible.
            What are you writing?
            What are you writing about?
            WHY are you writing this?

            I do not understand .... Emptiness ....request
            for this no
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    Here, on this simple example, one can see, just not to delve into, not to think, but to fine-tune the commentary for the training manual, shouting at the USSR. I don’t know who got the training manual out there, then you have archaisms of 100 years there, then there are no simple concepts. I'm not talking about modern expressions.
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Reptiloid
    I do not know, Olgovich, whether I will read from your link.

    this is a news site, plunge into what you wanted. read comments, what kind of fights are going on ...
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Moreover, your links are often superficial. Overlook, so to speak ...

    for example?
    and what is .... superficial? "
    and deep? lol
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    It’s clear from this simple example that do not go deep, not to think, but to fine-tune the commentary for the training manual, chilling down the USSR. I don’t know who got the training manual out there, then you have archaisms of 100 years there, then there are no simple concepts. I'm not talking about modern expressions.

    Kindly write in RUSSIAN: nothing is clear .....
    WHERE to delve into. what a training manual. what concepts and expressions. what nonsense is golem? belay lol

    ps there is no need to groan, the SAMA authority itself has groaned at the very least.
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    It was interesting to read. Indeed, a poorly lit page of history. As far as I remember, among all the East European social leaders, Ceausescu was always a bit on his own.

    "" On the face "" and others were. Broz Tito, a leader from Albania as well. It was from an article by respected Podymov that I learned about the contradictions between the leaders after the maize began to debunk.
  • apro 28 December 2019 06: 24 New
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    The destruction of the communist system is the imperialists' first task. And strangely enough, the USSR turned out to be the weakest link after the assassination of IV Stalin.
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      strangely, the USSR turned out to be the weakest link after the assassination of IVS Stalin. and one reason members of parties in which the communist number of entries in the party card ...

      Oh, maybe you’ll finally tell me: where did you go? the real members of , faithful multimillion-dollar Leninists ?! belay request lol
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        and where did the real members, the faithful multimillion-dollar Leninists, go?

        And where did it go. Responsibility for the decisions made. Large-scale tasks. Modesty in everyday life and at work. And the moral character of the communist. And the correspondence of time.
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          And where did it go. Responsibility for the decisions made. Large-scale tasks. Modesty in everyday life and at work. And the moral character of the communist. And the correspondence of time.

          Those. millions of staunch ideological Leninists simply decomposed in large numbers ... request ..

          Damned capitalists! angry
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            Damned capitalists!

            And the capitalists are from what side? There are enough internal revisionists.
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              And the capitalists are from what side? There are enough internal revisionists.

              Well. and who, who cunningly and vilely laid out so clean, white, faithful to the cause of Lenin Leninists ?! belay request

              Damned capitalists! am
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                Quote: Olgovich
                Well. and who, who insidiously and vilely laid out so pure, white, faithful to the cause of Lenin Leninists?

                Unfortunately, very few loyal Leninists by that time remained, more than 3 million communists died in the war and I believe that at least 5 million Soviet youth brought up by the Soviet Government are the future builders of communism ....

                .And the rest were spread out by the carriers of petty-bourgeois consciousness - immigrants from the village and from the occupied territories, where "entrepreneurship" was developing, as well as people like you, who would throw an anti-Soviet anegdot and tell you how artists live in America and Europe.

                So the people have experienced a shift in mass consciousness from communism to petty-bourgeois consciousness, which led to the restoration of capitalism in the USSR.
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                  .And the remaining were decomposed by the carriers of petty-bourgeois consciousness - immigrants from the village and from the occupied territories, where it developed

                  Those. your power could produce only the Trotskyists. But her supporters could not.

                  "Strong, capable" power, yes! lol
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  how do you, who then throw an anti-Soviet anegdot, will tell you how artists live in America and Europe.

                  What lcd did you spawn amorphous, which can ... anecdote collapse? belay lol
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  So the people have experienced a shift in mass consciousness from communism to petty-bourgeois consciousness, which led to the restoration of capitalism in the USSR.

                  from a joke, yes .... fool lol
                  ps what are you talking about ?! lol
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                    Those. your power could only produce the Trotskyists. But her supporters could not.

                    Either you are so slow-witted, or you pretend. The Soviet Government gave birth to the real builders of communism, who took a hit on themselves and died defending their homeland, and the Trotskyites and other enemies of the people at that time sat in camps and crevices, and there were not a few masked in power, Stalin did not clean up.

                    Quote: Olgovich
                    from a joke, yes ....
                    ps what are you talking about ?!

                    Are you speculating again? I wrote from what a shift in mass consciousness occurred. Reread above. This is not the first time I've written about this, but it doesn’t reach you.
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                      Either you are so slow-witted, or you pretend. The Soviet Government gave birth to the real builders of communism, who took a hit on themselves and died defending their homeland,

                      fool lol
                      And then, BECAUSE, why did she stop giving birth ?!
                      Quote: Alexander Green
                      and the Trotskyites, and read the enemies of the people at that time, sat in camps and in crevices, and there were not a few who were masked in power, Stalin did not clean up.

                      Ie despicable cowardly Trotskyists bent fearless iron Leninists .. yes

                      By the way, what are they, then, “iron”, even if the weaklings crushed them ?! belay
                      Quote: Alexander Green

                      Are you speculating again? I wrote from what a shift in mass consciousness occurred.

                      From my anecdote.lol
                      Sclerosis?
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                        That is, the despicable cowardly Trotskyists have bent the fearless iron Leninists ..

                        Not words, your primitive just rolls over. But you boast about your knowledge of history, and you yourself forgot that when the Khrushchev clique seized power, you slandered, as you write, all Leninists, many were expelled from the party, many were imprisoned or shot, and the majority because of their political illiteracy were not even understood what happened.

                        We already talked about this, you then accused me of slandering war heroes, and I replied to you that they are heroes, but politically illiterate, they did not see and did not understand the danger of a petty-bourgeois degeneration of power, about which he warned IN AND. Lenin.
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                        Not words, your primitive just rolls over. But you boast of your knowledge of history, and you yourself forgot that when the Khrushchev clique seized power, you slandered everyone, as you write Leninists, many were expelled from the party, many were imprisoned or shot

                        Ooh, thawing coogy repressions! yes lol fool

                        Tell the same millionth figures of the executed, exiled by the kogavoy clique of Khrushchev! yes
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        and most because of their political illiteracym did not even understand what happened.

                        Oops! belay
                        So, under the tsugovoy tsarist regime and in the weakened 20s, the real Leninists WANTED, and under the strongest Stalinist regime and education -... ceased to forge, on the contrary, they became .... watered UNLAWFUL .... belay lol fool
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        We have already talked about this, you then accused me of slandering war heroes, and I answered you that they are heroes, but politically illiterate, they did not see and did not understand the danger

                        LITERATURE WHERE gone? !! What kind of system did you have if you were the only LEARNER to produce?
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                        The real Leninists were forging, and under the strongest Stalinist regime and education -... ceased to be forged, on the contrary, they became .... watered UNLAWFUL ....

                        Speculate again.
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                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        The real Leninists were forging, and under the strongest Stalinist regime and education -... ceased to be forged, on the contrary, they became .... watered UNLAWFUL ....

                        Speculate again.

                        No, this is a FACT.
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                        No, this is a FACT.

                        No, this is an ordinary speculation, on the forum you have already figured out everything.
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                        No, this is just speculation,

                        FACT

                        Disprove it lol laughing
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        on the forum you already have everythingor

                        BIT FOR YOURSELF. Teeth something dumb ..... lol
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                        FACT

                        Disprove it

                        Read my comment carefully, everything is written there and do not speculate.

                        The Soviet authorities gave birth to the real builders of communism, who took a hit on themselves and died defending their homeland, while the Trotskyists and other enemies of the people sat in camps and crevices at that time, and not a few masked in power remained, they gave birth to their own kind.

                        Stalin really did not finish, you are a prime example.
                        Refute it.
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                        Read my comment carefully, everything is written there and do not speculate.

                        NOTHING written
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Soviet authority gave birth to the real builders of communismwho took a hit on themselves and died defending their homeland, and the Trotskyists and other enemies of the people at that time sat in camps and in crevices, and there were not a few masked in power, they gave birth to their own kind.

                        That is, before the Second World War (when all the enemies were still strong), she gave birth, and during and after -.... ceased. belay fool lol
                        At the same time, tens of thousands of SCHOOLS, INSTITUTIONS, DISTRICTS and other PARTY COMMUNITIES continued to educate true Leninists in strict accordance with the Central Committee, the Stalinist Ministry of Food and his pointers.

                        Or were there Stalinist schools ... Trotskyist pointers ?! belay

                        Or did the Trotskyists seize ALL schools and teach children at night .. Trotskyism, and it turned out to be much more convincing than Leninism? belay

                        What are you carrying?!!! am
                      9. Alexander Greene 30 December 2019 17: 55 New
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                        That is, before the Second World War (when all the enemies were still strong), she gave birth, and during and after -.... ceased

                        Well, why are you so illiterate? You don’t know the simplest truths:
                        1) Marxists are not born, they become
                        2) the class struggle escalates as socialism builds.

                        As long as there was a dictatorship of the proletariat, everyone was taught correctly. There was no time to study during the war, and after the war Khrushchev and his clique made a coup d'etat, and taking advantage of the illiteracy of the newly minted communists, they burned all Stalinist books, rewritten textbooks, abolished the dictatorship of the proletariat and began dismantling socialism.

                        Do you really understand this is not available ?.
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                        1) they are not born Marxists, they become

                        AT SCHOOLS, INSTITUTIONS, ARMY, WORK. And this ALL was purely Stalinist in the Second World War and after.

                        Where did .... Trotskyists were born?

                        But the previous generation Yeshe and tsarism captured, but it turned out .... more Leninist
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        the class struggle escalates as socialism builds.

                        There are no classes, but the struggle ... escalates belay fool lol Who is fighting then?
                        By the way, the strongest struggle, according to this logic, will be under ... communism! lol laughing
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        There was no time to study during the war,

                        What are you carrying?! WHERE have tens of thousands of schools, institutes, etc. gone? And this study was a hundred times STRENGTHENED in WWII !!
                        And after the Second World War, what happened, again, once? lol laughing
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                        AT SCHOOLS, INSTITUTIONS, ARMY, WORK. And this ALL was purely Stalinist in the Second World War and after.
                        Where did .... Trotskyists were born?

                        Well, for example, you also studied at a Soviet school, university, army, how did you get such an anti-Soviet?

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        There are no classes, but the struggle ... escalates. Who is fighting then?
                        By the way, the strongest struggle, according to this logic, will be under ... communism!

                        Well, how much can you demonstrate your ignorance, you taught historical materialism. Communism is a classless society; the beginning of the class struggle will no longer be there.

                        There is a transition period between capitalism and communism, during which the exploiting classes — the big and middle bourgeoisie — are suppressed using the dictatorship of the proletariat. The dictatorship of the proletariat persists until the complete victory of communism, because part of the people is the small owner with his petty-bourgeois consciousness, which must be re-educated.
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                        Well, for example, you also studied at a Soviet school, university, army, how did you get such an anti-Soviet?

                        Those. You admitted that the Soviet Stalinist school of the 30s grew mainly Trotskyists. Moreover, incapable of thinking and political illiteracy good
                        School of the 60s to schools 30-40 years-oh, how far: no one forced us to yell: "Glory to the Berry !!!, Death to the berry !!!" and so forth
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Well, how much can you demonstrate your ignorance, you taught historical materialism. Communism is a classless society; the beginning of the class struggle will no longer be there.

                        So in 1937 there were no EXPL classes anymore !!! Memorize, finally!
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        There is a transition period between capitalism and communism, during which the exploiting classes — the big and middle bourgeoisie — are suppressed using the dictatorship of the proletariat. The dictatorship of the proletariat persists until the complete victory of communism, because part of the people is the small owner with his petty-bourgeois consciousness, which is necessary re-educate.

                        Carers in a madhouse should be placed for ideas to re-educate adult-conscious people.
                        However, there is no need: they themselves became extinct ... yes
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                        Those. You admitted that the Soviet Stalinist school of the 30s grew mainly Trotskyists. Moreover, incapable of thinking and political illiteracy

                        The conclusion of your "analytical" mind confirms your diagnosis.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        So in 1937 there were no EXPL classes anymore !!! Memorize, finally!

                        Learn ismatism, in my opinion even Goebbels didn’t think of it.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Carers in a madhouse should be placed for ideas to re-educate adult-conscious people.

                        Only enemies are not amenable to re-education, but them .... you yourself know what to do with them.
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                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Those. You admitted that the Soviet Stalinist school of the 30s grew mainly Trotskyists. Moreover, incapable of thinking and political illiteracy
                        The conclusion of your "analytical" mind confirms your diagnosis.

                        Sclerosis? It is YOU who wrote that ALL the politically literate correct Bolsheviks died. and there were only ignorant ignoramuses and inconspicuous Trotskyists

                        I ask you for the hundredth time: where did TEN MILLION Stalinists brought up by RIGHT Stalinist schools in 30-40-53 go ?!
                        Or why the RIGHT school-graduating .... uneducated Trotskyists ?!
                        The head does not break? lol
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        So in 1937 there were no EXPL classes anymore !!! Memorize, finally!

                        Learn ismatism, in my opinion even Goebbels didn’t think of it.

                        in 1937 there were expl classes? 1 belay fool
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Only enemies are not amenable to re-education, but them .... you yourself know what to do with them.

                        Who appointed you as educators?
                        Adults DO NOT NEED either educators or parenting. They have their own head, and much smarter than your heads
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                        Sclerosis? It is YOU who wrote that ALL the politically literate correct Bolsheviks died. and there were only ignorant ignoramuses and inconspicuous Trotskyists

                        Do not speculate and do not misinterpret, better tell us where did people like you come from? You, too, were brought up by the Soviet government, but it is clear that the wolf does not feed, the whole forest is watching.

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        in 1937 there were expl classes? 1

                        Of course they were, they didn’t go anywhere, they just took their property away, and they stayed and continued their wrecking activities.

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Adults DO NOT NEED either carers or parenting

                        They really need it, they need to be taught collectivism, internationalism, solidarity and much more.
                      16. Olgovich 3 January 2020 09: 31 New
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                        Do not speculate or misrepresent

                        ONCE AGAIN, wagging: where did TEN MILLION Stalinists brought up by RIGHT Stalinist schools in 30-40-53 go ?!
                        Or why the RIGHT school-graduating .... uneducated Trotskyists ?!

                        Silent? Broke your head? Still would! lol
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Of course they were, they didn’t go anywhere, they just took their property away, and they stayed and continued their wrecking activities.

                        You just killed millions, someone escaped by leaving.
                        Name organization of caspuators in the USSR, bring document programs, managers, exploiters. Forward! lol

                        By the way, it does not occur to you that WITHOUT property, are they just working peasants?
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        They really need it, they need to be taught collectivism, internationalism, solidarity and much more.

                        Let me remind you that the "educated" have the same right to education as the "educators" and also have the right to drive them with a stick. RESPECT for their RIGHTS for their right to live and for their own reason

                        Got it?
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                        ONCE AGAIN, wagging: where did TEN MILLION Stalinists brought up by RIGHT Stalinist schools in 30-40-53 go ?!
                        Or why the RIGHT school-graduating .... uneducated Trotskyists ?!

                        Do not bring the blame on the healthy. You wag. Answer, where did you come from? Although it’s clear, the family is not without a freak. All that is possible and impossible, all are distorted and cheated.

                        I repeat on your other questions: the exploiters have not gone away, they have only taken their property. Most of them continued their wrecking activities against the Soviet regime, they united in underground parties and groups (industrial party, peasant party, military conspiracy, etc.) and plotted, killed Soviet activists and much more.
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                        Do not bring the blame on the healthy. You wag

                        belay lol
                        FIFTH TIME YOU CAN'T answer the SIMPLE question: where did you go TENS OF MILLION Stalinists brought up by RIGHT Stalinist schools in 30-40-53 ?!
                        Or why the RIGHT school-graduating .... uneducated Trotskyists ?!

                        Broke, huh?
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        I repeat on your other questions: the exploiters have not gone away, they have only taken their property. Most of them continued their sabotage activities against the Soviet regime, they united in underground parties and groups (industrial party, peasant party, military conspiracy, etc.)

                        What are the organizations of the cospuators in the ussr, bring the program documents, managers of exploiters.

                        THE DOCUMENTS ARE ON THE TABLE, liar!
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                        Name the organizations of the kspuator in the ussr, give the program documents, the leaders of the exploiters.

                        THE DOCUMENTS ARE ON THE TABLE, liar!

                        How do you write to everyone there? Ignoramus? So here is the advice for the ignoramus: go to the Internet and find the lawsuits of the 30s. and Feuchtwanger at the same time read. He well described his impressions of these processes.

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        You FIVE times CANNOT answer the SIMPLE question: where did the TEN MILLION Stalinists brought up by the RIGHT Stalinist schools in 30-40-53 ?!

                        I answered this question so much that all readers have already understood, except for you. But where such relics like you come from is interesting to everyone.
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                        How do you write to everyone there? Ignoramus? So here is a tip for the ignoramus: go to the Internet and find the lawsuits of the 30s

                        I have long found and NO DOCUMENTS-programs of these "parties" are NOT in nature.
                        There are screams of psychopaths of Vyshinsky and - NO evidence.
                        ALL-justified.
                        Their convictions are RECOGNIZED illegal.

                        Your speculation is in the flood.

                        Documents, organizations will be, no?
                        Are free!
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        I have already answered this question so much that all readers have already understood, except for you

                        never. So where are the tens of millions of Stalinists learned under Stalin ?!
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                        Their convictions are RECOGNIZED illegal.

                        This was recognized by the “shemyakin” court, which, by order of Khrushchev, destroyed archival materials on these processes. But as you know, "manuscripts do not burn," the time will come and the proletarian court will deal with this.
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                        This was recognized by the “shemyakin” court, which, by order of Khrushchev, destroyed archival materials on these processes.

                        empty fiction in the furnace.

                        Documents will be / no, the last time I ask? No?
                        So do not pester anymore.

                        PS where are the tens of millions of Stalinists learned under Stalin ?!
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                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        This was recognized by the “shemyakin” court, which, by order of Khrushchev, destroyed archival materials on these processes.

                        empty fiction in the furnace.

                        Documents will be / no, the last time I ask? No?
                        So do not pester anymore.

                        PS where are the tens of millions of Stalinists learned under Stalin ?!

                        No, these are not inventions, the fact that Khrushchev cleared out the archives - the whole world knows, you alone deny.
                        And the last question: "Where did you come from?"
                      24. Olgovich 4 January 2020 14: 10 New
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                        No, these are not inventions, the fact that Khrushchev cleared out the archives - the whole world knows, you alone deny.

                        spit on the world and idle chatter ..
                        DOCUMENTS - ON THE TABLE!
                        No?
                        So when you find, then disturb, okay?
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                        And the last question: "Where did you come from?"

                        A lot of literature for this. What age are you? 4,5,6 years old?
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                        spit on the world and idle chatter ..
                        DOCUMENTS - ON THE TABLE!
                        No?
                        So when you find, then disturb, okay?

                        You want to spit, you want not. Just that the archives were cleaned is a fact that no one denies besides you.

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        A lot of literature for this. What age are you? 4,5,6 years old?

                        So answer? What torment with the answer? Something indecent?
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                        You want to spit, you want not. Only the fact that the archives were revered is a fact that nobody denies except for you.

                        1.Provide the results of OFFICIAL CONCLUSIONS on "destroyed" cases. No?
                        leave me alone then!
                        2. It is IMPOSSIBLE to destroy everything: some documents overlap others, those third ones, etc.
                        But there is NOTHING!
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                        It is IMPOSSIBLE to destroy everything: some documents overlap others, those third ones, etc.

                        That is why I tell you, once again, the time will come and the proletarian court will figure it out.
                        But what to do with where you came from is an interesting question for many.
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                        That is why I tell you, once again, the time will come and the proletarian court will figure it out.

                        that's when it is taken away, then come.

                        What are you broadcasting for him? Did he instruct you? No? So ... yes
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                        What are you broadcasting for him? Did he instruct you? No? So ..

                        And I will organize it. Well, if I do not live, then my comrades will do it.
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                        And I will organize it. Well, if I do not live, then my comrades will do it.

                        While it is NOT.
                        So do not broadcast for him!

                        suddenly, by the way, will he slap you? recourse

                        Like the triples themselves Predsminov spanked, and then you ... laughing

                        Do you mind, I hope, for the sake of the party? yes laughing
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                        While it is NOT.
                        So do not broadcast for him!

                        suddenly, by the way, will he slap you?

                        Like the triplets of the Predsminovy ​​themselves spanked, and so you ...

                        Do you mind, I hope, for the sake of the party?

                        The proletarian court will be.
                        And about spanking ... if among our people such as you get amused: some will slander, and others will condemn, then everything can happen. That's why it is a class struggle. But in the end they’ll figure it out, and then you will be slapped.
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                        The proletarian court will be.

                        Then we’ll talk, NOW-WHAT are you broadcasting ?! Was he authorized by YOU? No? So what?
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        And about spanking ... if among our people such as you get amused: some will slander, and others will condemn, then everything can happen. That's why it is a class struggle. But in the end they’ll figure it out, and then you will be slapped.

                        Class struggle in ..... court? fool
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        But in the end they’ll figure it out, and then you will be slapped.

                        Milai, yours almost spanked 80% of the Central Committee of your party, and such as you, in general, hundreds. Hundred Thousand . Every day on ...1 500 Bolshevichkov during the year yes
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                        Olgovich, what nonsense are you writing? You are an adult, and behave like a schoolboy in Nosov’s story?
                        Of course, I understand that you are excited because the topic of Romania is close to you.
                        There, above, I wrote that since you are here, in my opinion, the only commentator from Moldova, they would have told us at least something about the current life in your city, at least, compared to socialism. About roads, medicine ...... Or does the training manual forbid? Your opinion is interesting. Have you been to Romania yourself? Interesting too.
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                        Olgovich, what nonsense are you writing? You are an adult, and behave like a schoolboy in Nosov’s story?

                        you can deny that you can? No? So what?
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Of course, I understand that you were worried, because the topic of Romania to you close.

                        belay lol
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        There, above, I wrote that since you are here, in my opinion, the only commentator from Moldova, they would have told us at least something about the current life in your city, at least, compared to socialism. About roads, medicine ...... Or does the training manual forbid?

                        Housing is being built in huge quantities and at a frantic pace, the roads are the same, medicine is the same, but worse, but for the money you will get what was not available under socialism and in Lechsanupra.

                        Gasoline is 60% more expensive than in Russia, the communal apartment is more expensive, the products are the same.
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                        the same roads, medicine ...this is not at all clear.
                        same products---- also not clear. How is it during the USSR? Or the Russian Federation? What do you compare with?
                        For example, St. Petersburg and Krasnodar ---- 2 big differences ... and you have a climate.
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                        the same roads, medicine ... this is completely incomprehensible.

                        You asked about socialism, forgot?
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Products are the same ---- also incomprehensible. How is it during the USSR? Or the Russian Federation? What do you compare with?

                        I wrote:
                        Gasoline is 60% more expensive than in Russia, the communal apartment is more expensive, the products are the same.

                        For example, with Voronezh.
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                  Then we’ll talk, NOW-WHAT are you broadcasting ?! Was he authorized by YOU? No? So what?

                  I am authorized by our party program, which provides for the demolition of the bourgeois machine and its replacement with the power of the soviets, within the framework of which the proletarian court will also work.

                  Quote: Olgovich
                  My dear, yours have plopped almost 80% of the Central Committee of your party, and those like you, in general, hundreds.

                  You just do not worry, we will deal with this. and with you ....
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                  I am authorized by our party program, which provides for the demolition of the bourgeois machine and its replacement with the power of the soviets, within the framework of which the proletarian court will also work.

                  1. Provide an excerpt from it indicating your name and authority.
                  2. What is this “program”? Legal document? No? So what?
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  You just do not worry, we will deal with this. and with you ...

                  Yes, almost one hundred years, as you understand and to no avail.

                  Maybe it will reach you that you need to think SO for a long time when a MAN has been DESTROYED, and not then, right or wrong ....

                  Again, maybe we will slap you, and then we will think about it and maybe justify it (and even restore the honorary diplomas and, this, lol membership lol this, in the party! hi lol

                  PS WHERE are TENS of millions of Stalinists brought up in the right Stalinist schools ?! Do not wag your head!
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                  1. Provide an excerpt from it indicating your name and authority.
                  2. What is this “program”? Legal document? No? So what?

                  Your "legal knowledge" just rolls over, it seems that you have not studied anywhere.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  WHERE have TENS of millions of Stalinists brought up in the right Stalinist schools ?!

                  Your “record is stuck”, I explained everything to you a long time ago, look through my old comments.
                  But where people like you come from is interesting to everyone, many are wondering how such a marriage could appear.
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                  Your "legal knowledge" just rolls over, it seems that you have not studied anywhere.

                  "scientist", enough talk. WHERE are answers to direct questions?
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  Your “record is stuck”, I explained everything to you a long time ago, look through my old comments.

                  ANYTHING is not explained, liar. You wag .....
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  But where people like you come from is interesting to everyone, many are wondering how such a marriage could appear.

                  Such a “marriage” -all Russia, you are our full-fledged one! yes

                  And here are yours as you themselves recognized -WORNED, tortured by the Trotskyists. lol
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                  ANYTHING is not explained, liar. You wag .....

                  Pay attention to yourself, in order to blame someone, be honest yourself, otherwise the lies out of you just pour in a stream.

                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Such a “marriage” is the whole of Russia, you are our full-fledged one! And here are yours, as you yourself admitted - DISAPPEARED, tortured by the Trotskyists

                  Well, here you are even speculating and blaspheming, mocking the memory of millions of communists and Soviet youth born in 1920-1927, brought up by the Soviet government, but, unfortunately, who died during the war. At that time, people like you sat out, some in the crevices, some in the camps, and after the death of Stalin, under the leadership of Khrushchev, they seized power in the country.
                7. Olgovich 7 January 2020 15: 53 New
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                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  Pay attention to yourself, to blame someone, be honest yourself, and then the lie of you just pouring in a stream.

                  Lying: None of the facts you bring-NOT in a state. for all is true.
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  Well, here you are even speculating and blaspheming, mocking the memory of millions of communists and Soviet youth born in 1920-1927, brought up by the Soviet government, but, unfortunately, who died during the war. At that time, people like you sat out, some in the crevices, some in the camps, and after the death of Stalin, under the leadership of Khrushchev, they seized power in the country.

                  penniless again: WHERE to share TENS of millions Stalinists brought up in the right Stalinist schools in 1953 g ?! am angry
                8. Alexander Greene 7 January 2020 16: 40 New
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                  WHERE HAVE THE TENS of millions of Stalinists brought up in the right Stalinist schools in 1953?


                  Sorry, I did not expect you to be so dumb and illiterate. Do you really not know that the generation of 1928-1934? almost never studied at school. These boys and girls during the war stood at the machine tools, worked on collective farms, replacing the fathers who had gone to the front. They all worked for the front, for victory, and after the war, the restoration of the economy destroyed by the war fell on their shoulders.

                  They were all patriots of the Soviet system, but unfortunately. politically illiterate, so the Khrushchevites were not hard to deceive them, because they were able to discern Khrushchev's revisionism.
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                  Sorry, I did not expect that you are so stupid and illiterate. Do you really not know that the generation of 1928-1934? almost never studied at school.

                  do not bring nonsense: they all studied. perfectly finished schools, entered the INSTITUTIONS, TECHNICALS. TEACHING, etc., including my parents . their relatives, friends, etc.

                  and EVERYTHING is much smarter and more literate than Dumb lol green. graduated from institutes, etc.

                  or who studied at institutes, etc.? belay fool lol
                10. Alexander Greene 7 January 2020 21: 05 New
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                  and EVERYTHING is much smarter and more competent than Dumb green.

                  There is a fact. In 1961, Khrushchev and his clique removed the provisions on the dictatorship of the proletariat from the Party Program, which ultimately led to 1991. This is all the result of the political myopia of this generation, otherwise Khrushchev could not have done it.

                  Unfortunately, they no longer had the class education that workers had at the beginning of the century or in the 20s and 30s. The vast majority of this generation studied in evening school, technical schools and universities graduated in absentia, but even if they studied in full-time, it is known that higher education is not a guarantee of political literacy.

                  The main reason is the violation of the continuity of proletarian traditions, youth, it had no one to learn class consciousness from, the older generation of workers either died at the front or died from illnesses. They were replaced by other teachers - from exiles and camps returned the former fists, Trotskyists, Bandera, Vlasovites and the like.
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                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  There is a fact. In 1961, Khrushchev and his clique removed the provisions on the dictatorship of the proletariat from the Party Program, which ultimately led to 1991.

                  no, this is the comet of halley led lol
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  This is all the result of political myopia of this generationotherwise Khrushchev could not have done it.

                  if you were smarter, you would know. that this generation is MUCH SMARTER than the previous ones, MUCH READED MORE, KNEW, for more and more books were published, more and more knowledgeable teachers and others.

                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  Unfortunately, they no longer had the class education that workers had at the beginning of the century or in the 20s and 30s. The vast majority of this generation studied in evening school, technical schools and universities graduated in absentia, but even if they studied in full-time, it is known that higher education is not a guarantee of political literacy.

                  Yeah. the educated were much ... dumber than the uneducated. fool lol
                  What are you carrying?!
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  The main reason is the violation of the continuity of proletarian traditions, youth, it had no one to learn class consciousness from, the older generation of workers either died at the front or died from illnesses.

                  1. The bulk of the dead, peasants.
                  2. Find out how many workers were in the USSR and how many were killed.
                  WHAT are you carrying, ignoramus?
                12. Alexander Greene 8 January 2020 20: 17 New
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                  WHAT are you carrying, ignoramus?

                  Calm down already, you yourself are an ignoramus, you don’t know that when the front approached any city, a militia was organized there, where city workers entered.

                  And also for your ignorant mind. General education has nothing to do with political literacy. In 1961, there were literate party members, they knew mathematics, read Pushkin, but they did not understand the essence of Marxism, and because of their petty-bourgeois consciousness they supported Khrushchev’s conclusion that socialism in the USSR had finally won, and therefore abandoned the dictatorship of the proletariat, which was the beginning of the restoration capitalism.
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                  Calm down already, you yourself are an ignoramus, you don’t know that when the front approached any city, a militia was organized there, where city workers entered.

                  AND? Tell me. by the way. as the workers of Yekaterinburg entered the militia. Novosibirsk, etc. lol
                  what are you carrying?!
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  General education has nothing to do with political literacy. In 1961 were literate party members, knew math, read Pushkin, but the essence of Marxism they did not understand and because of their petty-bourgeois consciousness, they supported Khrushchev’s conclusion that socialism in the USSR had finally won, and therefore abandoned the dictatorship of the proletariat, which was the beginning of the restoration of capitalism.

                  yeah, they figured out in higher mathematics, physics and Pushkin, they became much more literate than in the 30s. they studied the Marx-Lenin in a wild violent volume, but the essence of Marxism ..... did not understand belay fool lol
                  and illiterate uneducated workers of the beginning of the century ... understood ...

                  What are you carrying?! belay lol
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                  Tell me. by the way. as the workers of Yekaterinburg entered the militia. Novosibirsk, etc.

                  You want to say that not a single worker from these cities has fought? Well you give ...

                  Quote: Olgovich
                  and illiterate uneducated workers of the beginning of the century ... understood ...

                  And the class flair was developed among them, they did not carry the bourgeoisie and other world-eaters to the spirit.
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                  You want to say that not a single worker from these cities has fought? Well you give ...

                  NOT in the militia. Learn the difference between an army and a militia.
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  And the class flair was developed among them, they did not carry the bourgeoisie and other world-eaters to the spirit.

                  Ie illiterate, in your opinion, are MORE literate. than .... literate.
                  What are you carrying?!


                  As for the workers, about whom you claimed that they almost "all died and the Trotskyists therefore" won fool
                  : died in WWII LESS 10% Union workers.


                  Chop it on your forehead!
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                  Ie illiterate, in your opinion, are MORE literate. than .... literate.
                  What are you carrying?!

                  Sorry, but this heresy is carried by you, and not by me, it’s not in vain that they offer you to heal yourself ..
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                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Ie illiterate, in your opinion, are MORE literate. than .... literate.
                  What are you carrying?!

                  Sorry, but this heresy is carried by you, and not by me, it’s not in vain that they offer you to heal yourself ..

                  Read WHAT you write about Illiterate Workers of the Beginning of the Century:
                  Quote: Alexander Green
                  And their class flair was developed, they did not carry the bourgeoisie and other world-eaters to the spirit.

                  And you write about LITERATURE workers 1961
                  In 1961 there were literate party members, they knew mathematics, they read Pushkin, but the essence of Marxism they did not understand
                  What are you carrying?! fool
                  Not in vain
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                  you are offered to heal ..
                18. Alexander Greene 11 January 2020 15: 14 New
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                  Olgievich, your comment indicates that you fell into childhood. This is the last bell.
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                  your comment indicates

                  That you were caught for Ushko, dragged into the sun and poked with your nose into that absurd nonsense what are you talking about: the "mass universal" death of workers, the "Turks" of the workers of 1960 (under socialism!) and the "wise men" of the workers of 1900 (under tsarism!). fool lol
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                  That you were caught for Ushko, dragged into the sun and poked with your nose into that absurd nonsense,

                  It is felt that your development has slipped to the level of a children's sandbox.
        2. Reptiloid 11 January 2020 04: 03 New
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          Ay-ah-ay Olgovich! Why are you saying request are you changing the Russians? These are teenage jokes, and you are an adult. Respect the Russian language, as you say.
          I want to thank you ---- well you exposed the Poles! ++++ good
          After all, you can, if you want?
        3. Olgovich 11 January 2020 09: 34 New
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          Ay-ah-ay Olgovich! Why are you repeating Russian proverbs?

          You need to learn the RUSSIAN language:
          Explanatory dictionary of Ozhegov
          TO FORGET

          HARVEST, -Well, -Kill; -death; owls 1. whom (what). Kill with a saber, a saber, an ax. 2. what. To make a notch in anything with a chopping tool, on anything.3. log. - Heal yourself on your nose or forehead - remember it hard.
          .
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          I want to thank you ---- well you exposed the Poles! ++++
          After all, you can, if you want?

          this applies to all enemies of Russia
        4. Reptiloid 11 January 2020 19: 05 New
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          Russian language --- living language, Olgovich! laughing Whether you like it or not, it changes gradually with people. Acquiring new words and concepts. We talked about archaisms somehow, in my opinion you understood me then. Why am I talking about this? We are respected
          we communicate with my beloved edition, it is translated into other languages.
          During my life I have never heard such a form ---- chop on my forehead. If Ozhegov writes ---- it means it used to be. But not now.
          You probably have the opportunity to read books by Uspensky and Chukovsky about the Russian language, they are closer to our time, nevertheless (I really didn’t read, but they are at home)
          There are later authors, you can online.
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          During my life I have never heard such a form ---- chop on my forehead.

          Learning is never too late!
          I am glad that I told you the depths of the Russian language unknown to you. hi
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Russian language --- living language, Olgovich! Whether you like it or not, it changes gradually with people. Buying new words

          Are you setting new standards for the Russian language?
          No?

          Then give an opinion of such a level as State Institute of the Russian Language A.S. Pushkin. What, again not?

          Ozhegov’s dictionary is valid today - cut it on what you deign. hi
        6. Reptiloid 12 January 2020 23: 39 New
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          It seems that you stopped using the words "disdain" and "" rowing "" after I wrote that these are archaisms? Or disdain perastali? lol tongue wassat
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          It seems that you stopped using the words "disdain" and "" rowing "" after I wrote that these are archaisms?

          "disdain" -... archaism ?! lol laughing What, besides yourself, can you present? Again nothing?
          I row "- sho tse take? belay
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          Or disdain perastali?

          no. yes
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          But why present something? 100% ----- I haven’t seen anywhere in the modern and post-war press, except for you. You can ask, where did you meet and when? But why? If I have not seen, then you are --- doubtful. Replaced in other words, that's all.
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    These boys and girls during the war stood at the machine tools, worked on collective farms, replacing the fathers who had gone to the front. They all worked for the front, for victory, and after the war, the restoration of the economy destroyed by the war fell on their shoulders.
    They were all patriots of the Soviet system, but unfortunately. politically illiterate, so the Khrushchevites were not hard to deceive them, because they were able to discern Khrushchev's revisionism.

    They wanted to sneeze on the "Soviet system." Saliva.
    During the war years, they were forced to work, because it was impossible to live on a dependent card. And they wanted to live.
    And after the death of Dzhugashvili, they, like everyone else, at least sighed slightly, because during the life of this damp (Dzhugashvili), living in the USSR was completely disgusting and filthy.
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    They wanted to sneeze on the "Soviet system."

    Firstly, you are mistaken about this. They all now want the return of socialism and the USSR, and therefore participate in leftist movements.
    Secondly, you did not live in the time of Stalin, and therefore judge this by the stories of those who hated Soviet power, and therefore trembled with fear. Honest people had nothing to fear.
  • Reptiloid 7 January 2020 22: 49 New
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    What’s funny to me, Alexander, when they say that it’s vile and filthy.
    I heard a lot of stories from relatives, ((and everyone came out of the villages)) ---- no one about it.
    But ---- I'm in fact with many people at work. And ---- there are pauses, breaks that people themselves fill with some kind of memories of the past. A very different life. But never - vile and filthy, or scary ..
    I recalled stories about another grandfather ((or great-grandfather))
    He was the head of the confectionery workshop. After the war ----- 5 years in the camps, something with the machines did not work. He returned - they were appointed director of the bakery. In Moscow. There was a cheerful cheerful person. Not a word bad about the past tense.
    .
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    My grandmother, Alexander, as well as her older sister, Valentina, studied well in a rural school, in the village of Abakumovo, Tula Region. When my grandmother was 14 years old, she began to teach small first-graders, or rather, they studied there for several ages. And her older sister came a young teacher to a village school a few years earlier. Then they studied in absentia, already in the 50s.
    Good evening hi
  • Alexander Greene 7 January 2020 22: 49 New
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    My grandmother, Alexander, as well as her older sister, Valentina, studied well in a rural school, in the village of Abakumovo,

    Hello Dmitry. The fact is that even the most educated person can be politically illiterate, even those who studied Marxism do not always become Marxists. It must be absorbed into itself, and this depends on its being, on living conditions, on which books it reads, with whom it communicates, who influences it. Marxism is a science, and in order to study it, one must make some efforts on oneself. Not all of this can.
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    What else do I know about the village, Alexander. To work to school and back --- they went on foot --- 6km there and back. And at home it was necessary to participate with animals ---- there is not enough days for everything. Especially, there was not enough time to study Marx thoughtfully. And the teacher, mentor should be.
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    What else do I know about the village, Alexander. To work to school and back --- they went on foot --- 6km there and back.

    I agree, Dmitry, children from neighboring villages also studied with us. Moreover, one of our classmates, because of cerebral palsy, could not walk, so we, his comrades, ran from the workers' village after him and before the 8th grade brought him on a sled to school and drove him home.
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    Greetings, Alexander, my grandmother told me that at 4 in the morning it was necessary to have a cow, someone else to bring to the shepherd. They had lambs, calf, hens, piglets. .... but somehow it turned out that the elders from the village worked outside the village .... how is this possible? Someone at the cardboard factory, someone at the CHP .....
    YES, you are right when you studied at school, they somehow helped with agricultural work .. including spikelets collected. only I forgot what else participated ... sorry.
    Quote: Alexander Green
    ....... I agree, Dmitry, children from neighboring villages also studied with us. Moreover, one of our classmates, because of cerebral palsy, could not walk, so we, his comrades, fled from the workers' village after him and before the 8th grade brought him on a sled to school and drove back home.
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    And what is so forum users with views. close to yours, so protect the "Stalinist artels" as supposedly a model of private enterprise during the reign of the leader?))
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    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: apro
    strangely, the USSR turned out to be the weakest link after the assassination of IVS Stalin. and one reason members of parties in which the communist number of entries in the party card ...

    Oh, maybe you’ll finally tell me: where did you go? the real members of , faithful multimillion-dollar Leninists ?! belay request lol

    Olgovich, do not tell. Before asking a question about the Communists, answer the question: where did the loyal priests of the tsar, especially those with the "blue" blood, when he was not only overthrown, but also executed?
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      Olgovich, do not tell

      Oh, so maybe YOU answer, WHERE have millions of faithful Leninists-Communists gone ?! yes
      But oh, NO ONE can ...

      PS Russia fought for itself Four years in a terrible war with usurpers and then for decades.

      But where are you? Do not see .... belay request
      1. Alexander Greene 29 December 2019 10: 54 New
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        PS Russia fought for itself FOUR years in a terrible war with usurpers and then for decades.

        Stop talking nonsense. During the Great Patriotic War, the whole Soviet people fought the USSR.
        1. Olgovich 29 December 2019 11: 33 New
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          Stop talking nonsense. During the Great Patriotic War, the whole Soviet people fought the USSR.

          1. Russia Fought for herself FOUR YEARS with the enemy-in 1918-1922 and then for decades.
          2. And RUSSIA fought in the Second World War and defeated her and her people.! As in all THOUSAND YEARS! when she was, but there was no s.
          1. Alexander Greene 29 December 2019 13: 51 New
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            And RUSSIA fought in the Second World War and defeated her and her people.!

            Well what can I say to that? Blessed is he who believes ....
            Try to explain this to the other peoples of the former USSR, whom you are depriving of a common Victory.
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              Well what can I say to that? Blessed is he who believes.

              Everyone knows this. But they do not believe.
              Quote: Alexander Green
              Try to explain this to the other peoples of the former USSR.

              Russia is not the stub that you left from it.

              This is RUSSIAN Odessa, and RUSSIAN Nikolaev and RUSSIAN Faithful, and RUSSIAN Uralsk, RUSSIAN Sevastopol, RUSSIAN Izmail, etc.

              Didn’t get it again?
              1. Alexander Greene 29 December 2019 14: 02 New
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                Russia is not the stub that you left from it.

                No, it’s you, along with dissidents, humpback, Yeltsin, Yakovlev and other Russian riffraff, who destroyed the USSR and Russia. The dissident Zinoviev himself admitted that he was tagged in socialism, but ended up in Russia.
                1. Olgovich 29 December 2019 14: 06 New
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                  No, it's you, along with dissidents

                  belay fool
                  YOU did did today's borders of Russia in 1917-1940 yyy.

                  sclerosis?
                  1. Alexander Greene 29 December 2019 19: 42 New
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                    Quote: Olgovich
                    YOU did did today's borders of Russia in 1917-1940.

                    sclerosis?

                    You have paranoia. I was not born yet.
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                    Quote: Alexander Green
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    YOU did did today's borders of Russia in 1917-1940.

                    sclerosis?

                    You have paranoia. I was not born yet.

                    fellow lol Olgovich’s training manual is very old. And he himself still hasn’t learned to count verbally, and there’s nothing to do with it.
                  3. Olgovich 30 December 2019 12: 41 New
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                    You have paranoia. I was not born yet.

                    Nobody pursues me, unlike YOU, who are already a hundred years old pursue "countless" traitors and "enemies of the people" in the form of MILLIONS of fellow citizens
                  4. Alexander Greene 30 December 2019 17: 37 New
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                    Quote: Olgovich
                    No one is chasing me, unlike YOU,

                    All paranoid say so.

                    Quote: Olgovich
                    "countless" traitors and "enemies of the people" have been haunted for a hundred years

                    And which group are you? 100 passed after the revolution, even the restoration of capitalism during this time has taken place, and you all are opposed. Look how fixated you are ... Just like paranoia.
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                    All paranoid say so.

                    they say the opposite, "literate lol
                    Quote: Alexander Green
                    And which group are you? 100 passed after the revolution, even the restoration of capitalism during this time has taken place, and you all are opposed. Look how fixated you are ....

                    1.citizen.
                    Quote: Alexander Green
                    Like paranoia.

                    learn what it is to not rave.
                  6. Alexander Greene 31 December 2019 15: 58 New
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                    1.citizen.

                    "citizen", the revolution was 100 years ago, again established the power of the bourgeoisie. What are you so afraid of ?.
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                    Quote: Alexander Green
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    1.citizen.

                    "citizen", the revolution was 100 years ago, again established the power of the bourgeoisie. What are you so afraid of ?.

                    What is Olgovich afraid of? Maybe nothing at all, dear Alexander!
                    They gave him a training manual ----- he tries
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                    citizen, "the revolution was 100 years ago, once again established the power of the bourgeoisie. What are you so afraid of ?.

                    WHO is afraid ?! fool lol
                    WHOM?
                    Decayed fossil bankrupt? lol laughing

                    In addition to pity and compassion, they do not cause anything else crying
                  9. Alexander Greene 2 January 2020 01: 29 New
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                    WHO is afraid ?!
                    WHOM?

                    Why are you so nervous? From any comment in defense of socialism you fall into a tantrum.
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                    Why are you so nervous? From any comment in defense of socialism you fall into a tantrum.
                    I have already come to you: the underlings are of interest, like amusing minerals.
                    But besides interest cause pity and compassion ...
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                    I have already come to you: the underlings are of interest, like amusing minerals.
                    But besides interest cause pity and compassion ...

                    Well, why are you so worried about us?
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                    Well, why are you so for us outlive?

                    belay lol

                    Are you worried about the sheep, the half-decayed sheepskin from which you found in the closet? No?

                    Well, you see ... hi
                  13. Alexander Greene 3 January 2020 16: 43 New
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                    Are you worried about the sheep, the half-decayed sheepskin from which you found in the closet? No?

                    Well, you see.

                    So why do you always get hysterical because of such a trifle? How much bile do you pour out, how many nerve cells do you destroy?
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                    So why do you always get hysterical because of such a trifle? How much bile do you pour out, how many nerve cells do you destroy?

                    you in your Ukraine completely forgot how to understand in Russian?

                    FOR THE HUNDRED TIME I say: I am having fun - I observe a rare mineral, yes ...
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                    Quote: Olgovich
                    FOR THE HUNDRED TIME I say: I am having fun - I observe a rare mineral, yes ...

                    You see how great, our interests almost coincide: you have fun and I benefit from this, I’m teaching you my students at the working academy how to expose slander. Thank. Throw something else.
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                    Quote: Alexander Green
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    FOR THE HUNDRED TIME I say: I am having fun - I observe a rare mineral, yes ...

                    You see how great, our interests almost coincide: you have fun and I benefit from this, I’m teaching you my students at the working academy how to expose slander. Thank. Throw something else.

                    to health! yes
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                    to health!

                    As a polite person, I say: "Thank you!"
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    But you and your kind always leave the answer when they ask: for which hell after the creation of the USSR part of the territory of the RSFSR was transferred to other union republics or formed new ones? Okay, I still understand when they transferred territories with a non-Russian majority. But why did they transfer territories with the predominant Russian population?
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    But you and your kind always leave the answer when they ask: for which hell after the creation of the USSR part of the territory of the RSFSR was transferred to other union republics or formed new ones? Okay, I still understand when they transferred territories with a non-Russian majority. But why did they transfer territories with the predominant Russian population?

    they have the answer: "What's the difference?"

    They fall into a stupor from the following question: "If it makes no difference, then WHY did they transfer and break down Russians in non-Russians there ?!" am
  • Reptiloid 29 December 2019 14: 25 New
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    They haven’t gone anywhere, dear Nitochkin, they got down to business ---- began to walk joyfully through the streets when the tsar renounced, and if at home they began to write congratulatory letters to the Provisional Government. Hierarchs of the Church wrote congratulations. What Mikhail Anatolyevich Babkin (Doctor of Economics, Russian Historian, Archivist) Conducted Research About
  • Reptiloid 1 January 2020 19: 43 New
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    Although I wrote the answer to the question ----- where did it go? but now I thought --- after all, before, before Nicholas2 their relatives killed the Russian tsars? And for some reason you can’t hear moans and regrets about this? As if they were not kings, they were not anointed, and they did not die in agony? What about their killers? And no one mournes the dead now.
  • naidas 30 December 2019 17: 55 New
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    , can you, finally, tell me: where did the real members, the faithful multimillion-dollar Leninists, go ?!

    Olgovich, have you read a Soviet history textbook? There about the Great French Revolution they answer your question.
  • jekasimf 28 December 2019 10: 29 New
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    Gentlemen, what did you expect? After all, Romania is perhaps the only country in the social camp that was really occupied by the Soviet Union! Yes! Yes! After all, if you talk about other countries with a stretch, you can say that you were released. That Romania never was not captured by the Third Reich. For it was a direct ally of him. And since it was not captured by fascist Germany, it means it was not freed from it!
    With a 5 million population, at least 500 thousand Romanians fought as part of the Nazi troops. At least 10% !!! This is better than the Balts! And they really hated the USSR. So, as soon as there was a chance, they took advantage of it . Here everything is quite logical. They were just the losers in the Second World War. And so, they dreamed of revenge. That's what they got.
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      What is 5 millionth? At the end of the 80s, 22 million population of the SRP. What, over forty years has increased more than four times?
    2. Sergej1972 31 December 2019 14: 05 New
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      On August 23, 1944, Romania took the side of the anti-Hitler coalition, and its troops fought against former allies - Germans and Hungarians.
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        You tell this to my grandfather, who was at first guerrilla in the Crimea. And all the punishers were Romanians and Tatars. And the Germans only commanded. And then, the Romanians in Odessa and Moldova surrendered in thousands. They stood along the roads, with their hands up and their pants down to their knees.
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          Does this somehow cancel the fact that since August 23, 1944, Romania has already fought on the side of the anti-Hitler coalition?
  • Aviator_ 28 December 2019 10: 33 New
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    The article is informative. A number of inaccuracies - well, which of Ceausescu, Enver Hoxha and Mao Tse Tung are Stalinists? They were anti-Khrushchevites, they strongly disliked the revisionism of Khrushchev Kukuruzny, his slander of Stalin, and nothing more. They themselves acted as they saw fit, without looking back at Joseph. Stalin’s expression about Mao Tse-tung is known: "He is like a radish - red on the outside, and white on the inside." The strange material about the creation of atomic weapons in Romania - at that time (late 70s) such a controversial team as "Germany, France, China, Israel, Pakistan" - suddenly bothered about Romania’s help in such a delicate matter? This seems to be a common propaganda fake. And finally - the lack of external debt, this is wonderful. But how to explain to the average man, for whom on peaceful days the electricity is turned on for several hours a day, that all this for his own good is completely incomprehensible. This layman was led to pictures from Timisoara, where the burial of the dead with the subsequent standard pathological dissection of the chest was presented as “the results of tortures of the bloody Ceausescu regime”.
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      Enver Hodge was really a Stalinist.
  • svp67 28 December 2019 11: 24 New
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    Sorry, but in this case it is still impossible to blame Gorbachev for the Romanian tragedy. Ceausescu conducted a policy very independent of the USSR and he “played” himself
    1. apro 28 December 2019 11: 54 New
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      But no one disputes the direct participation of the Soviet special services together with the CIA ...
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        But no one disputes the direct participation of the Soviet special services together with the CIA ...

        So he not only got us
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          So he not only got us

          What ???? what paid all the debts ??? what stigmatized the Kremlin revisionists ??? and the hunchbacked traitor ???
  • dgonni 28 December 2019 14: 26 New
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    Kolya would probably not have been shot, but would have given ten years. But when the people saw his mansions of savings and luxury, at that moment when the entot people still sat on beans. They quickly put him to the wall.
    By the way, Prokhvesor also bothered everyone with his tenacity and greed. But he didn’t plan to put it on the wall. It would be possible to sit down.
    By the way, his mansions are not much ahead in comparison with the Pshonka mansions. Medvedchuk was abruptly. However, he turned out to be smarter than the type of upper elite and calmly burned his mansion. For the loss of money is not as critical as the loss of reputation! If he saw the mansions on TV, he would now be also abroad and would not show his legs in Ukraine!
  • Jarserge 28 December 2019 14: 27 New
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    Everything is simple and complicated. The West bought Romanian generals and officials. Already who and Ceausescu felt these movements. Why didn’t he do anything? Who knows. Could, if he had time ... But to keep him alive in this situation of the new "democratic power" is mortally dangerous. Please note that in Iraq and Libya the same story is with the purchase of the US elite and what is the fate of Hussein and Gaddafi?
  • Nitochkin 28 December 2019 14: 34 New
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    In the first photograph there are two, the one on the right is executed without trial, and the one on the left is alive, despite the fact that he deserves a noose around his neck, like Judas. And not only is he alive, he still dares to "vyakat" from time to time.
    Z.Y. The word "v_jakat" is automatically replaced by the word "speak", is included on the T9 website? )))
  • Free wind 28 December 2019 14: 35 New
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    Ceausescu was such a nice guy that even Fidel Castro sent him to hell.
  • Operator 28 December 2019 14: 52 New
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    What kind of nonsense are the authors of the article: Ceauşescu played his ass briskly all his life, trying to sit on five chairs at once (nationalist, Stalinist, Maoist, American and Soviet), recalled Stalin only as a fetish for contacts with anti-Soviet PRC, DPRK and Albania, undermined the military potential of the Warsaw Pact (to protect the southern flank of which Ilyichevsk-Varna ferry crossing had to be built around Romania), pursued a wildest domestic policy (as a result of which it was shot by its own military) - and the USSR, Khrushchev and Gorbachev, as always, are to blame.
  • Pacifist with AK 28 December 2019 16: 22 New
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    Personal impressions: in 1985, as part of a student stoyotryad, I went to see my little brothers in the city of Tyrnovo. I remember traveling through Romania - the impression of complete REDUCTION! Everything is old, small, groomed, a lot of grimy children (gypsies?). They stood at the Bucharest train station, the Romanian army cordoned off the squad, but they released them on the platform. Romanian cigarettes, water, dried bananas from Vietnam, gray biscuits at the kiosk. One pleasant impression - I exchanged badges with a smiling cordon named Ionel (still in the collection - the badge of the medical instructor of the Romanian army).
    We entered Bulgaria through the station. Ruse and stunned abundance of alcohol in the first kiosk! The train was already moving, the leader was yelling with good obscenities, and we stood and cowered whiskey from souvenir bottles in our mouths!)))))))) So, the "Romans" standard of living was not very good))))
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      And those who were there in the 70s say that the shops were pleased with the abundance of products. It’s just that in the 80s the situation radically changed compared to the 70s.
  • faterdom 28 December 2019 23: 58 New
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    In the history of Romania, this is one of the most shameful pages of its history. They took - overthrew and executed his most successful leader. And why - and they will not be able to explain to themselves in a hundred years.
    However, the sentence was sent to us even worse - Gorbachev, clothed with totalitarian power. I think when the whole world still appreciates the consequences of his "thinking" - the name will become a household name, such as Judas.
    1. Military Builder 30 December 2019 05: 53 New
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      or worse, Judah surrendered one, and his conscience was tortured - he hanged himself, Brokeback - 150 million, and nothing lives
      well-deserved retirement
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    It is a little incomprehensible to mention the DPRK along with the PRC and Abania. Although the DPRK pursued a peculiar policy, the attitude towards it in the USSR under Khrushchev and Brezhnev was quite normal.
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    Again. Soviet propaganda never put the DPRK on a par with the PRC and Albania. And, despite a number of differences in foreign policy, the attitude towards Romania was an order of magnitude better compared to the same China and Albania. No secret was made from negotiations with the Chinese leaders. On the contrary, Ceausescu, unsuccessfully offered services to both our and Chinese leaders in reconciling the USSR and the PRC, wanted to play the role of mediator between them. Objectively, the Brezhnev USSR was still closer to Romania than Maoist China or Khojaist Albania.
    By the way, the leadership of Albania, led by Khoja, very critically assessed both the domestic and foreign policies of Romania both during the time of Georgiu Deja and the time of Ceausescu.
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    Gorbi and Chow, this photo is something like a kiss from Judas.
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    My father is from Svishchov, I have a big relative there, this is a Bulgarian city on the border with Romania. We also had socialism with all the ensuing consequences - deficit, surveillance, and so on, but what was happening in Romania was complete chaos. Absolute impoverishment, people brought to cattle. Hunger? You do not understand, Bulgaria and Romania are very fertile lands, here hunger is impossible in principle. But besides simple food there was nothing there. Nothing! When returning from the Hungarian brigade, a Romanian woman arrived in our carriage. Very intelligent, a teacher in Russian (it’s logical how to communicate), she asked us to keep the gifts that I bought in Hungary.
    “Of course, no problem, but why?”
    - They’ll take me away.
    - Who? - we are at a loss
    - Customs officers.
    “But you only have toys and chocolates?” (she opened the bag so we had no doubt)
    “They take everything.”
    So we smuggled chocolates in Romania. The first in the life of her children.
    My opinion: if the leader brings his people to complete impoverishment, to the bestial situation, without war and without natural disasters, such a leader must be shot. Romanians did everything right.