The media revealed the details of the contacts of the military of Israel and the Russian Federation


Some details of the relations between the military of the Russian Federation and Israel were revealed by the international portal Jewish News Syndicate. The site on the eve published a review of "military diplomacy" and the cooperation of the Israelis with the defense departments of other countries.


In particular, it was about how Israel and Russia support a complex communications mechanism designed to prevent incidents between the air forces of both countries at the Syrian theater, which Moscow entered in 2015.

This required the creation of a channel to resolve conflicts, which would allow each side to fulfill its mission without harming each other. The channel has been operating for two years [...] and it is based on two separate telephone lines. One is for safety related communications; the second is for more strategic issues

- notes the publication.

We do not want to exchange strategic level messages on the line designed to ensure flight safety

- Brigadier General Erez Meisel, head of the IDF’s international cooperation department, told the publication.

The military attaches of Israel and Russia also play an important role in this coordination, the newspaper notes, and every few months a working group of the Israeli Ministry of Defense meets with its Russian counterparts.
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  1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 11: 24 New
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    The article is accurate for those who resent the lack of downed Israeli aircraft.
    Kina will not be.
    1. Chaldon48 25 December 2019 11: 31 New
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      To start shooting down planes means declaring war.
      1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 11: 45 New
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        Quote: Chaldon48
        To start shooting down planes means declaring war.

        What am I for? There are "comrades" at the military district who are outraged that during the attacks on Iranian targets, Russian air defense systems are silent. For them, I write that "there will be no kina."
      2. 1976AG 25 December 2019 15: 57 New
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        Quote: Chaldon48
        To start shooting down planes means declaring war.

        Not at all ! Or did Turkey declare war on us, but we did not come to it?
        1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 19: 44 New
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          Quote: 1976AG
          Quote: Chaldon48
          To start shooting down planes means declaring war.

          Not at all ! Or did Turkey declare war on us, but we did not come to it?

          No, Alex. Certain circles concocted a provocation to prevent Turkey from participating on the Kurdish issue in Syria. Russia without Turkey has no opportunity to resolve this issue.
          At Erdogan himself, life hung in the balance. Miraculously escaped.
          But we really did not come to the war with Turkey.
          1. 1976AG 26 December 2019 13: 40 New
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            Because of such incidents, no one starts a war from serious states. Extra evidence of conflict between India and Pakistan. Everyone wants to live.
            1. Vladimir_6 26 December 2019 20: 45 New
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              Quote: 1976AG
              Because of such incidents, no one starts a war from serious states. Extra evidence of conflict between India and Pakistan. Everyone wants to live.

              Truly so.
        2. Chaldon48 26 December 2019 11: 19 New
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          It’s one thing to shoot down one plane, seemingly by chance, and then apologize for a long time, and it’s quite another thing to begin to systematically shoot down aircraft without bringing any excuses. Yes, and it would be foolish to apologize.
    2. Rostislav Bely 25 December 2019 11: 40 New
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      Not a “kin”, but simply there will be no Israel, given that it (unofficially) has 80 nuclear weapons ... here’s a verse about Anika the warrior
      1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 11: 52 New
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        Quote: Rostislav White
        but there will simply be no Israel

        If it were that simple, then Israel would not exist for a long time.
        1. Rostislav Bely 25 December 2019 11: 57 New
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          Once upon a time there was Onika the warrior
          Once upon a time,
          He lived three hundred and thirty one summer.
          And how much land he traveled,
          And he plundered a lot of land
          God’s houses let down smoke
          Deity icons on the palm.
          And he tells the Lord God
          And he says he praise,
          I praise the Lord, I disgust the Lord:
          - Kaby gave yes a little, Lord,
          From heaven to pillars
          I would turn the whole earth to the blue sky
          And the blue sky on the cheese ground:
          There would be no death on the world
          And the people would be all alive .-
          Yes, these recitations did not fall to the Lord God,
          He sent two sumotki seamen:
          He put one sumotka against the sky
          And he put a friend sumotsku against the ground.
          And he sent his quick apostles,
          And where to go Oniki, go.
          So Onika the warrior rode
          I went with a cyst field
          Yes wide open.
          And on that path yes on the path
          Some two sumotny are lying
          And there are good people here.
          - Take it, you good people,
          Just pick up your sumochny changeable:
          If I touch the leg with my left
          That nowhere will sumatsek be sought;
          And if I hit the right leg,
          Then there’s nowhere to be a sumo-seeker .-
          - Oh you, Onika pustokhvastishko,
          Oh, Onika is empty!
          You ride, Onika, boast
          And you can’t snatch you out .-
          Angry Onika the warrior
          He touched sumotskoy leg left, -
          And he could not summon up sumo;
          Onik touched with a right leg, -
          And he could not summon up
          Soskotsil Onika from the good of the horse
          And he was accepted with all his might:
          And knee-deep he went to mother in cheese-earth,
          And he could not wake sumozek.
          Onika was angry in her heart
          And Onika got angry in the bestial
          And he was accepted with all his might:
          And he went to his mother’s waist in cheese-ground,
          And he could not wake sumozek.
          And Onika was not accepted in jest:
          And in breasts he went to mother in cheese-earth,
          And he could not wake sumozek.
          And he tore his zealous heart,
          And with shame he sat on the good of the horse,
          On the good of the horse on Obakhmat.
          And Onika the warrior rode in a cystic field,
          Wide expanse.
          And on that way on the paths
          Lying here is everywhere.
          Lying here is marvelous:
          The arms and legs of a horse
          And the animal’s head lies,
          And the carcass of the whole.
          - What are you lying, tsudo tsudnoye?
          Ali, you are the main lady,
          Ali you are a Pole, Polensky son,
          Ali are you staring at wood? -
          - And I’m not everywhere
          There is no precedent,
          Not a Pole, not a Polensky son,
          Not too lazy, I am daring:
          Onika is a warrior, I am an ambulance,
          Ambulance is Death, sudden .-
          - Oh, you murderer!
          I have a saber east:
          I will wave the lush head! -
          - And don't brag, Onika the warrior:
          I have an awesome awl,
          And I’ll file with the haw zilotsky .-
          Onika swung his saber into the east:
          The hand stagnated in the shoulder
          Nowhere did the hand bend
          Vostra saber fell out of his hand
          And the horse’s goodness didn’t cut.
          - Ah you, Death is fast!
          Give me a string for at least three years
          Your belly churches
          And the treasury of gold for the poor fraternity,
          Take your darling nab repent. -
          - I will not give you a line for three hours:
          Your belly is unrighteous
          Gold treasury is not earned,
          And your soul will not be helped .-
          - And give you a line for at least three hours
          Bring your belly to the churches,
          Gold treasury for a beggarly fraternity,
          And repent your soul.
          - I will not give this line for three minutes:
          Your belly is unrighteous
          Gold treasury is not earned,
          And your soul will not be helped .-
          Onika the warrior stumbled upon the good horses,
          And he fell on the ground with cheese:
          And there never was a century of soul.
          1. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 12: 53 New
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            Have you composed yourself? And about whom?
            1. Rostislav Bely 25 December 2019 14: 54 New
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              Spiritual verses are always based on deep moral or ethical ideas, striking, according to F.I. Buslaev, "the depth of thought and high poetic creativity." And in this sense, their heroes can really be called spiritual heroes. Such are the images of two brothers - the poor and rich Lazarus - who have become the personification of poverty and wealth; such is the image of Egoriy the Brave - an example of spiritual unwaveringness, perseverance; the same no less popular image of Alexei - the man of God, who attracted the attention of A.N. Radishcheva, A.S. Pushkin, F.M. Dostoevsky ...

              If the definition of the original sources of epic plots still causes controversy, then with spiritual verses in this matter, everything is much simpler. Here the primary sources are evident. Nevertheless, not a single spiritual verse corresponds to its own “original”. P.V. Kireyevsky, the first collector and publisher of folk spiritual poems, far from accidentally emphasized that "these are not church hymns and poems compiled by the clergy to edify the people, but the fruits of folk imagination, bearing on itself all its imprints."

              The spiritual verse about Anik the warrior is based on the well-known monument of Old Russian literature “Debate of Belly and Death”. But in the book’s source there is neither Belly (life) (Konrad: yes, not LIFE, but PROPERTY. See the text of the epic. And if so, then the analogy is very doubtful), nor Death accept human images, this personification occurred only in oral folk art, where Belly became Anika the warrior, and Death miraculous miraculous and marvelous.

              For the first time, a poem about Anik the warrior was published in 1840 in the journal Sovremennik under the title "Narodnaya Narodny Story", and then was included in the "Collection of Folk Songs of P. V. Kireyevsky" and other folklore publications. One of the most “epic” versions of the verse was recorded in 1860 by P.N. Rybnikov.

              Published by: Songs Collected by P.N. Rybnikov. 2nd ed., Vol. 2, No. 213.
      2. Aaron Zawi 25 December 2019 12: 32 New
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        Quote: Rostislav White
        Not a “kin”, but simply there will be no Israel, given that it (unofficially) has 80 nuclear weapons ... here’s a verse about Anika the warrior

        1. Rostislav Bely 25 December 2019 14: 52 New
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          Dear, have you bought a Ferrari or a Hummer? ;)
      3. Vitaly gusin 25 December 2019 14: 50 New
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        Quote: Rostislav White
        Not a “kin”, but simply there will be no Israel, given that it (unofficially) has 80 nuclear weapons ... here’s a verse about Anika the warrior

        You read it in one place, and suddenly up to 400 (unofficially)
        Tell me, how much is necessary for you personally.
        Once L.I. Brezhnev skazad military: ""
        "I DO NOT GO FOR ARABS TO START A NUCLEAR WAR"
        1. Rostislav Bely 25 December 2019 15: 03 New
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          Leonid Brezhnev told the military: "" "I DO NOT GO FOR ARABS TO START A NUCLEAR WAR"

          They invented it yourself, or did someone help? ;)
          1. Vitaly gusin 25 December 2019 16: 23 New
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            Quote: Rostislav White
            L.I. Brezhnev skazad military

            I read it a very long time, not a lot of distorted, but the meaning remains the same.
            “Now Sadat has prayed for help. At night, he called to the Soviet ambassador and begged to wake Brezhnev and get an immediate ceasefire through the Americans. In Moscow, Brezhnev and Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko discussed what to do next in the Middle East. Brezhnev said Gromyko: restore diplomatic relations with Israel. On his own initiative. Gromyko cautiously remarked: the Arabs will be offended, there will be noise. Brezhnev replied very sharply: "They went! (I removed that would not be banned) We have been offering them a reasonable path for so many years. No, they wanted to fight. Please, we gave them the latest technology, which was not in Vietnam. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple superiority in artillery, and absolute superiority in anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons. So what? They were again gouged. And again they were draping. And again they cried out for us to save them. They put me down twice in the middle of the night to the telephone. He demanded that I immediately send troops. No! We will not fight for them. The people will not understand us ... "
            Leonid Mlechin
            1. Rostislav Bely 25 December 2019 20: 08 New
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              You can read anything you want and trick to awesome proportions like Solzhenitsyn ...
    3. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 12: 52 New
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      And great.
    4. Bukhalov 25 December 2019 14: 41 New
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      Quote: Vladimir_6
      The article is accurate for those who resent the lack of downed Israeli aircraft.
      Kina will not be.

      And it’s very good that it will not. The interests of Israel and Russia coincide. And if they do not coincide among some visitors to the site, fiercely hating Israel, Jews who do not approve of the good relations between Russia and Israel, then this is their purely personal matter. I do not think that Israel and Russia will correct the current state of affairs in this sector of foreign policy.
      With an eye on you, or Mikhan, Taigu and the like. I dare to assume that even the emotional, reminiscent of surrealism plots of Dali, Karen’s posts will also not be taken into account. Ay-yay-yay. What's going on?! Everything is gone: the plaster is removed, the client leaves.
  2. askort154 25 December 2019 11: 30 New
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    "The channel has been working for two years ..."!

    This channel is working poorly. The downed IL-20 is proof of this. At the same time, they tried to hide their true goals, stupidly blaming everything on the "low-skilled Syrians." yes
    1. MoJloT 25 December 2019 11: 38 New
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      This channel is working poorly.
      One way communication.
    2. voyaka uh 25 December 2019 12: 35 New
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      That's right, the channel worked badly.
      Israel said: "there will be an attack in northern Syria." The Russian officer who received the message understood this as an attack in the north of Aleppo or Idlib province. But Latakia is also northern Syria. Northwest.
      The concrete location of the attack is never reported, as Russian officers immediately pass on information to the Syrians.
      Therefore, the result was an overlay. The S-400 radar in Hmeimim was in sleep mode.
      He did not see anything. Israeli planes spotted a Russian frigate. And he passed the info to Hmeimim. At this point, the F-16 had already launched planning bombs, and they hit the target. There were powerful explosions on the ground. The Syrians requested permission to fire anti-aircraft defense. Khmeimim sent Il to see what was happening, thinking that the French ship launched the rockets. And, without thinking, he gave the Syrians "good" to the fire. Israeli aircraft at that time had already returned to their territorial waters. The Syrians caught the target - Il - and fired two rockets. Alas, one hit. And there was a tragedy.
      Generally:
      1) poor telephone coordination between Hmeimim and Israel.
      2) operational errors command Khmeimim. Syrian air defense and Russian aircraft are not included in the "friend or foe" system. Either planes take off, or air defense works.
      1. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 12: 56 New
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        Competently and believable, unlike other "excuse versions."
      2. askort154 25 December 2019 13: 13 New
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        voyaka uh ... In general:
        1) poor telephone coordination between Hmeimim and Israel.
        2) operational errors command Khmeimim. Syrian air defense and Russian aircraft are not included in the "friend or foe" system. Either planes take off, or air defense works.


        In general, Israel is not to blame! fellow
        Alexei, there are already many Israeli fairy tales on the topic of "Ila", was in various media.
        And in all - Israel is not to blame, despite the objective analysis of the Russian Defense Ministry,
        where there weren’t tales-speculations, but a schematic, per-second analysis, with reference to time and flight patterns, of all aircraft in this zone. They were clear and understandable to everyone related to aviation. Perpetrators identified.
        But Israel did not have the courage to confess to provocation, and he began to weave fables in all available media. yes hi
        1. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 13: 55 New
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          Quote: askort154
          In general, Israel is not to blame!

          And they are never to blame, always with nothing.
        2. DED_peer_DED 25 December 2019 17: 49 New
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          They already answered you:
          We do not want to exchange strategic level messages on the line designed to ensure flight safety

          The channel they have is "the wrong system."
          So that the Jews did not get out?
      3. Vitaly gusin 25 December 2019 15: 01 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        The Russian officer who received the message understood this as an attack in the north of Aleppo or Idlib province. But Latakia is also northern Syria. Northwest.

        The Russian officer who received and transmitted the information further could instantly transmit information to the Israeli military that there was an aircraft with defined coordinates in the air.
        But this did not follow because it was a reconnaissance aircraft that performed a specific task.
      4. Krasnodar 25 December 2019 21: 17 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        That's right, the channel worked badly.
        Israel said: "there will be an attack in northern Syria." The Russian officer who received the message understood this as an attack in the north of Aleppo or Idlib province. But Latakia is also northern Syria. Northwest.
        The concrete location of the attack is never reported, as Russian officers immediately pass on information to the Syrians.
        Therefore, the result was an overlay. The S-400 radar in Hmeimim was in sleep mode.
        He did not see anything. Israeli planes spotted a Russian frigate. And he passed the info to Hmeimim. At this point, the F-16 had already launched planning bombs, and they hit the target. There were powerful explosions on the ground. The Syrians requested permission to fire anti-aircraft defense. Khmeimim sent Il to see what was happening, thinking that the French ship launched the rockets. And, without thinking, he gave the Syrians "good" to the fire. Israeli aircraft at that time had already returned to their territorial waters. The Syrians caught the target - Il - and fired two rockets. Alas, one hit. And there was a tragedy.
        Generally:
        1) poor telephone coordination between Hmeimim and Israel.
        2) operational errors command Khmeimim. Syrian air defense and Russian aircraft are not included in the "friend or foe" system. Either planes take off, or air defense works.

        The warning was as follows:
        Industrial area, North, Syria, attack approach East of Cyprus
        How this was translated by a Russian-speaking officer is not clear. It is possible that the north of Syria.
        In principle, everything is correct. North of Khmeimim - just attacked objects
        But the question is how the military perceived this on Khmeimim. Most likely they decided that they were spoken with in a simple way - the North of Syria - so the North of Syria. Approaching an attack east of Cyprus is also a loose concept. So it started. Therefore, it is desirable that the military representation of Russians directly in the situation centers (control) of the IDF during such operations.
    3. Professor 25 December 2019 12: 44 New
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      Quote: askort154
      This channel is working poorly. The downed IL-20 is proof of this. At the same time, they tried to hide their true goals, stupidly blaming everything on the "low-skilled Syrians"

      Not just downed, but downed by the Tzahal. That's how it all turned out. wassat

      https://newsland.com/user/4297655705/content/vvs-izrailia-gromiat-russkie-pantsiri-i-tory-gde-zhe-groznye-s-300/6624012
      Let me remind you, after the tragic (and accidental, as claimed in Tel Aviv) destruction incident IDF Aviation Russian reconnaissance aircraft IL-20 in Syria on September 17, 2018, Russian President Vladimir Putin decided to supply the Syrian air defense system with four Favorit S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems. They were delivered to this country at the beginning of October 2018. According to some reports - three divisions of 24 launchers in each. Which, from all points of view, looks very impressive.
      1. askort154 25 December 2019 13: 18 New
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        Professor....Not just shot down, but shot down by the Tzahal. That's how it all turned out.
        wassat

        Professor, be serious! We students are embarrassed for you. crying hi
        1. Professor 25 December 2019 13: 30 New
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          Quote: askort154
          Professor....Not just shot down, but shot down by the Tzahal. That's how it all turned out.
          wassat

          Professor, be serious! We students are embarrassed for you. crying hi

          This is your media report. Words can not be erased from a song.
          1. askort154 25 December 2019 13: 39 New
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            Professor.....This is your media report. Words can not be erased from a song.

            What are yours, that our media are apples of one tree, and they don’t fall far from the apple tree. It all depends on the gardener. hi
  3. prior 25 December 2019 11: 31 New
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    Well, how can you comment on this article after a downed Russian reconnaissance aircraft ?!
    Military diplomacy? No, conspiracy and betrayal .....
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 11: 38 New
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      No way! The leadership of the Russian Federation does not have the courage to bring down an Israeli plane, and at the same time, they turn a blind eye when Israel bombes an ally of the Russian Federation!
      1. MoJloT 25 December 2019 11: 43 New
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        turn a blind eye when Israel bombes an ally of the Russian Federation!
        Jews attacked Belarus? This is too much.
        1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 11: 45 New
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          And what about Belarus? I did not know that the Old Man is an ally of the Russian Federation!
          1. opus 25 December 2019 13: 15 New
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            Quote: Horace the Philosopher
            And what about Belarus? I did not know that the Old Man is an ally of the Russian Federation!

            Military-political blocs:
            The Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) “Tashkent Pact”, here the Allies:
            Armenia
            Kazakhstan
            Kyrgyzstan
            Russia
            Tajikistan
            Byelorussia
            ===============
            There is no Syria.
            With Syria, only 2a documents:
            Agreement about friendship and cooperation between the USSR and the Syrian Arab Republic "of October 8, 1980" "
            +
            The agreement between Russia and Syria on the deployment of an aviation group of the Armed forces of the Russian Federation on Syrian territory of August 26, 2015
            About Israel there is nothing there.
            1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 30 New
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              And when did Israel attack Belarus?
              1. opus 25 December 2019 13: 52 New
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                Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                And when did Israel attack Belarus?

                not when.
                it was on
                Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                and at the same time they close their eyes when Israel bombs ally of the Russian Federation!

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                Quote: MoJloT
                Jews attacked Belarus? This is too much

                I cut, like Hammer, my thought.
                1. Syria is not a military ally to us (in its relations with Israel), but an economic one, and against ISIS, and we have views of the Air Force and Navy bases.
                But in a showdown with Israel, our did not sign.
                If Israel bombed
                Armenia
                Kazakhstan
                Kyrgyzstan
                Tajikistan
                Byelorussia

                then CSTO, then if
                Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                when Israel is bombing an ally of the Russian Federation!

                that
                Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                enough courage to bring down an Israeli plane
                (from the Russian Federation)
                What do you want at all?
                Zavarushki: Israel-Russia?
                Technically: yes, Russia will be able to turn Israel into a desert and recapture the Golan for Assad, and neither illegal YaBZ, nor BR, nor aviation will save it ..
                But why?
                Israeli bombing of the territory of Syria looks ugly (any reasonable person will say that), and beyond any "rules" ...
                but ... but there’s nothing to be done about it, the USSR probably could, but then, Russia, much less now, no.
                This is a fact.
                However: once the Jews were irresponsibly spread rot, burned, destroyed, expelled, genocide. This is very bad. They survived it, we can say reborn, now they are strong.
                Jews simply forgot how humiliated and persecuted.
                Now. But the situation is changing. I (personally) would not anger everyone around me to such an extent.
                With Hesbola / Iran in Syria, it can be decided differently
                1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 56 New
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                  Theoretically, the Russian Federation will not fight with Israel under any circumstances! The gut is thin! The current oligarchic Russia is not the USSR!
                  1. opus 25 December 2019 14: 09 New
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                    Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                    The gut is thin!

                    don't make me laugh and the whole world
                    Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                    The current oligarchic Russia is not the USSR!

                    I agree with that
                    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 14: 12 New
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                      I do not speak for the generals of the Russian Federation! They will be ordered to fulfill them, but officials will be afraid for their bills abroad! That is why their gut is thin for action! Could land a couple of Israeli planes like the Su24 Turks, they say we didn’t apologize on purpose and that’s all! Israelis would no longer interfere
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                        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                        I do not speak for the generals of the Russian Federation! They will be ordered to fulfill them, but officials will be afraid for their bills abroad!
                        Do you know which of the officials with the authority to give orders to the generals have accounts somewhere abroad, or just tryndet?
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                        I can not show officials who do not have accounts abroad!
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                        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                        I can not show officials who do not have accounts abroad!
                        The question is not clear? Nevermind...
            2. avib 25 December 2019 14: 22 New
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              Quote: opus
              With Hesbola / Iran in Syria, it can be decided differently

              Here from this place please in more detail.
              1. opus 25 December 2019 14: 32 New
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                Quote: avib
                Here from this place please in more detail.

                formulate more precisely what you want "more in detail"?
                to whom and how will decide?
                why chew something?
                such as this (water optional):
                The water pipeline running between the Turkey and Northern Cyprus through the Mediterranean Sea was put into operation on Saturday at the opening ceremony of the Getchitköprü dam in Northern Cyprus, Anadolu reported.

                Thanks to this project, our Cypriot brothers will be provided with drinking and industrial water for 50 years. If southerners also want to use this water, then we will call this water "water of the world" and give it to them. Because for us the main thing is a person
                - Turkish President Tayyip Erdog said.
                1. avib 25 December 2019 16: 21 New
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                  Quote: opus
                  formulate more precisely what you want "more in detail"?

                  Iran and Hezbollah have stopped trying to "build" military bases with missiles aimed at Israel (also enterprises producing these missiles) and are withdrawing their armed formations from Syria - as far as I understand, ISIS has already won several times.
                  All. Israel has no complaints against Syria itself. There will be silence on the border - Israel will not react to anything. Iran, constantly threatening Israel with destruction, in Syria, in the immediate vicinity of the Israeli border, has nothing to do.
                  1. opus 25 December 2019 16: 28 New
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                    Quote: avib
                    Iran and Hezbollah have stopped trying to "build" military bases with missiles aimed at Israel (also enterprises producing these missiles) and are withdrawing their armed formations from Syria - as far as I understand, ISIS has already won several times.

                    1. need to answer the question: why are they doing this? The goals and objectives of the "missile / military bases" / ISIS here neither to the village nor to the city. With ISIS, ISRAEL is doing well: kissing in a hickey. Such a fighter against terrorism, against Islamism, the antagonist has no place to put any attempts — neither attacks on ISIS, nor ISIS attacks on Israel. It doesn’t happen

                    2. If there is an answer to claim 1, it is necessary to analyze how contradictions can be eliminated and "such a soft industry" can be resolved by tipping these contradictions
                    3. To mutual benefit: somewhere concessions, somewhere gingerbread, somewhere pressure and a whip. I have something to offer Syria (and she’s all right now), along with the golan will be easier, since they’re not going to return

                    Quote: avib
                    Israel has no complaints against Syria itself.

                    Syria has
                    Yes, and everyone in the area has to Israel
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                    1. need to answer the question: why are they doing this? Goals and objectives of "missile / military bases"

                    But the answer to this question is just no. Iran and Israel have no common borders, territorial claims, trade competition - no contradictions, as it were ...
                    But in power in Iran are religious fanatics who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, which they regularly declare. It does not make sense for religious fanatics, like any other fanatics, to seek any rational action, except, of course, the well-known fact that only the presence of an external enemy can rally people around unpopular power, especially when the country's economic situation is unfavorable.
                    So to solve the economic problems of Iran and the problems of the Iranian authorities with the population of this country so that it could be !!! it’s unlikely that anyone will take on Iran’s hatred of Israel.
                    Thus, Israel will have to knock Iran out of Syria using military force, because at this stage there are simply no alternatives for Israel.
                  3. opus 25 December 2019 17: 04 New
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                    Quote: avib
                    But in power in Iran are religious fanatics who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, which they regularly declare.

                    I think it's cliche
                    1. there was


                    2. Under Pahlavi, friction began
                    3. Yasser Arafat is gone
                    -Iran can recognize the Holocaust (it was, and it doesn’t cost him anything), and recognize Israel as a state (this is a fact), and not a bunch of Judas who are hiding from the tribe
                    -Israel .... to settle the issue with Palestine (it’s easy), with the Golan, of course hardly .. condemn whether Rushdi Salman
                    PS. I think there are hard-won pragmatists in power, and fanaticism for the electorate
                    Quote: avib
                    to rally people around unpopular power, especially when the country has an unfavorable economic situation.

                    if the authorities there were so unpopular, then they would not have existed for a long time. not those times.

                    unfavorable?
                    Iran's economy is the fifteenth in the world in terms of national production (according to the US CIA) and the largest among the countries of West Asia and OPEC. In 2007, Iran overtook Turkey in terms of GDP, thus becoming the largest economy in the Islamic world. The volume of GDP in 2007 amounted to $ 852,6 billion, GDP growth - 5,8%. Iran has the second largest oil reserve after Saudi Arabia (18 billion tons) and occupies 5,5% of the world market for oil products trade. Since 2008, Iran has been trading its oil on its own exchange in euros and rials.

                    Iran Khodro Industrial, Pars Khodro, Saipa, Kerman Khodro, Bahman Autos and Kish Khodro
                    do you have something like this?

                    It operates in Iran 321 airports129 have paved runways / 2010
                    In Russia, in 2016, 282 airports remained (at the beginning of the 1990s, 1450 airfields operated)
                    Yes, now there is inflation like 27%, gas riots, but how they live under sanctions.
                    Nevertheless
                    after the start of the second phase of the Zvezda refinery, the production of Euro-5 gasoline at this plant doubled - from 12 million to 24 million liters per day.
                    The largest in Iran, the Abadan Oil Refinery and the Imam Khomeini Oil Refinery, significantly increased fuel production. As a result, by the middle of last year, gasoline production in Iran increased by 18 million liters per day, while imports fell by 36%.
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                    Quote: opus
                    Iran Khodro Industrial, Pars Khodro, Saipa, Kerman Khodro, Bahman Autos and Kish Khodro
                    do you have something like this?

                    Our economy is much stronger. We do not produce cars using technologies 3-4 generations ago, but we produce microprocessors that no one else produces. We do not have oil, but the budget of Israel:
                    For 2019, the state allocates 479,6 billion shekels, including the amount of payments on government debt. The budget excluding debt payments is 397,4 billion shekels. The budget deficit for 2019 is 2,9%.


                    479,6 billion shekels is 138,03 billion USD.

                    Iran has:
                    According to Anadolu Agency, Iran’s draft budget for 2019 contains an export indicator of 1,5 million barrels of oil per day. This was stated by the representative of the Iranian parliament, Mohammed Mehdi Mufettih. According to him, the relevant parliamentary committee continues to work on a draft budget, government revenues are estimated at 407 trillion riyals (about 97 billion dollars).


                    138 vs 97, despite the fact that
                    The population of Iran is 83 731 137 people and Israel 8 689 180

                    Iran only needs to abandon its aggressive plans and plans to create nuclear weapons - they will remove the sanctions from them, stop tapping money into Hezbollah and the company - and they will have everything in chocolate. In any case, there will be a chance.
              2. kiril1246 25 December 2019 17: 02 New
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                Quote: opus
                Syria has
                Yes, and everyone in the area has to Israel

                There is nothing to cry. Syria itself is interested in continuing the conflict with Israel.
              3. opus 25 December 2019 17: 43 New
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                Quote: kiril1246
                There is nothing to cry.

                and who was crying?
                Quote: kiril1246
                . Syria itself is interested in continuing the conflict with Israel.

                1.Israel is interested. He needs it: the military-industrial complex, to fool the electorate’s head, to calm your stubborn with paise,
                Christianity needs: the religion of Christ is losing ground

                2.
                Kabbalah says the biggest enemies then become the closest friends
              4. kiril1246 25 December 2019 19: 14 New
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                Quote: opus
                and who was crying?

                Open any topic that discusses Israeli raids, the main leitmotif - what vile Israel bombing peaceful Syria.
                Quote: Mikhail3
                As a representative of a warrior nation, I despise those who cover their children’s blows at the enemy, considering it the ultimate infamy.


                And not a word that Syria in no way wants to end the confrontation with Israel.
          2. voyaka uh 25 December 2019 17: 12 New
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            "ISIS ISRAEL’s all right: kiss in a hickey" ////
            ----
            Degrading ... sad Your posts are increasingly joined with the yellow press.
            And once it was interesting to read you.
            ----
            1) ISIS is still based in Sinai. And Israel, together with the Egyptian army, has been fighting ISIS for many years.
            Mainly helping aerial reconnaissance. But sometimes (with the permission of the Egyptian side) it strikes with drones.
            2) near the Golan, one local clan swore ISIS in 2015. Two completely isolated villages surrounded by villages of supporters of the Free Syrian Army. They were in constant skirmishes with each other, not
            turning on the offensive. Two times ISIS shot at Israel, and twice Israel destroyed their firing points. Then the entire area was liberated by the Syrian army, and Israel did not intervene in the fighting.
          3. opus 25 December 2019 17: 39 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            Degrading ..

            If only the memory became worse, but a little weight gained, quit smoking
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Your posts are increasingly joined with the yellow press.

            I don’t read the yellow press, and I don’t read at all, because

            Quote: voyaka uh
            it was interesting

            Every man to his own taste
            Quote: voyaka uh
            1) ISIS is still

            I know and I know about 2.
            Let's go like this:
            1. What is ISIS?
            Daesh is an international Islamist Sunni extremist terrorist organization.
            2. Islam and Judaism (Israel)
            The Qur'an demands “humiliation and poverty” of the Jews in the form of a tax of jizya. In his "wrath" Allah "cursed" the Jews and they, like all the "infidels," in the future will turn into monkeys

            in the 624th year of the Christian era, Muhammad expelled the Jewish tribe of Banu Kainuk from Medina, then in the 625th tribe of the banu Nadir, and in 627 destroyed the last Jews in Medina, the tribe of the banu Kuraiza
            the oasis of Yasrib (Medina) has become what is called “Judenfrey”
            3.Sunites and Jews
            Ali ibn Abu Talib (on the orders of Muhammad) with the help of one slave beheaded 900 prisoners (Quraysites), who had their hands tied beforehand.
            Sunnis view him (Ali) as the last of the four righteous caliphs. .
            (we must pay tribute that the Shiites are even “cooler”: not just the fourth, but he is the first imam
            Every faithful Shiite is obliged to imitate the Great Holy Imam Ali
            )
            4. Everyone knows that you are “wass-wass” with America, partially live on its money, carry out all sorts of delicate operations (without prejudice to yourself), the stronghold of the Americans in that region, so to speak
            5. Since 2009, ISIS - terrorist attacks are constant
            https://tass.ru/info/1265102
            and nothing against Israel, except perhaps that
            2017 ISIS militant staged a terrorist attack in Jerusalem (Jun 19, 2017?)
            6. I was 4 months there, my acquaintances were there, the partner in Israel is now sticking out (I can’t break the service for him, he has already been away from us for visa-free 90 days): and the Arabs (almost all) say about Israel, as I, let the Jews many if for garlic
            Вывод из 1+2+3+4+5+6=
            Quote: opus
            With ISIS, ISRAEL is doing well: kissing in a hickey. Such a fighter against terrorism, against Islamism, the antagonist has no place to put any attempts — neither attacks on ISIS, nor ISIS attacks on Israel. It doesn’t happen

            and not any yellow PRESS.
            The mental process.
          4. voyaka uh 25 December 2019 17: 53 New
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            All your 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 in no way lead to your own conclusion. smile
            Israel fights or fought with ISIS where ISIS gets (or got) Israel: in the Sinai, near the Golan, in Gaza (Israel handed over ISIS cells to Hamas).
            In Iraq or in eastern Syria, a wide military coalition fought against ISIS. With its participation, Israel could only harm (sow discord) cooperation between Arabs and the Western coalition.
          5. opus 25 December 2019 18: 01 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            to your own conclusion.

            my conclusion: ISIS, well, it’s simply obliged to fight with Israel ...
            however, he DOES NOT fight with him, and does not say anything like "wipe off the face of the earth."
          6. voyaka uh 25 December 2019 18: 09 New
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            This question was asked by the leader of ISIS German journalist. The only one who managed to interview and survive.
            He asked: "Why is not ISIS fighting against Israel?" It was in 2015, at the peak of the success of this organization.
            He was answered: "We will only engage in Israel when we gain a foothold in the entire Levant (Iraq, Syria, Jordan). The Israeli army is the only one that knows how to fight with the partisans, and we have suicidal contact with them until we become a strong state."
          7. opus 25 December 2019 20: 31 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            This question was asked by the leader of ISIS German journalist. E

            Somehow to me your "evidence" / arguments are not very good.
            I think in the Basmanny Court, or with Judge Krivoruchko -verdict:

            Israel 25 years with confiscation, no correspondence
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            Quote: opus
            Quote: voyaka uh
            This question was asked by the leader of ISIS German journalist. E

            Somehow to me your "evidence" / arguments are not very good.
            I think in the Basmanny Court, or with Judge Krivoruchko -verdict:

            Israel 25 years with confiscation, no correspondence

            It's a shame, right? That few Jews die?
  • DED_peer_DED 25 December 2019 18: 06 New
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    "Man - that sounds proud!"
    - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said.

    Here it’s burning .... a sweetheart and a cannibal.
  • Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 12: 00 New
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    The leadership of the Russian Federation does not have the courage to bring down an Israeli plane

    After the SU 24 shot down by the Turks, there were also many accusers that “the leadership of the Russian Federation” has no courage. But in fact, the leadership of the Russian Federation turned out to be wisdom and patience. So do not rush to conclusions.
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 00 New
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      Well yes! The leadership of the Russian Federation is the wisest! You can shoot down planes in batches!
      1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 12: 10 New
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        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        Well yes! The leadership of the Russian Federation is the wisest! You can shoot down planes in batches!

        On the incident with SU-24, yes.
        1. Krasnodar 25 December 2019 21: 30 New
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          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Quote: Horace the Philosopher
          Well yes! The leadership of the Russian Federation is the wisest! You can shoot down planes in batches!

          On the incident with SU-24, yes.

          War is waged when appropriate
          The tasks of the Russian Federation in Syria are a military presence in the Eastern Mediterranean and mowing down as many Russian-speaking barmales as possible
          A war with Turkey would not have contributed to any of these tasks - exactly the opposite
          1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 23: 57 New
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            Quote: Krasnodar
            The tasks of the Russian Federation in Syria are a military presence in the Eastern Mediterranean and mowing down as many Russian-speaking barmales as possible
            A war with Turkey would not have contributed to any of these tasks - exactly the opposite

            The mowing of Russian-speaking barmalei is not even worth a discussion.
            The tasks of the Russian Federation in Syria should be considered from the problems of gas transit through Ukraine, the purpose of which was to squeeze Russia out of the European market, as not a reliable supplier. Russian gas should be replaced by US LNG and the Leviathan gas pipeline. That is why they smashed Libya, Syria and Iraq.
            Russia coped with all the intrigues of the "partners", and today the US sanctions on SP-2, this is a "dead poultice."
            SP-2 will be completed, and the signing of a gas transportation contract with Ukraine for five years means that now the Russian Federation has guaranteed customers, guaranteed transit, without the right of transit to powder our brain at will.
            In solving these problems, Russia did not need a war with Turkey.
            Well, it is natural that without a military presence these tasks cannot be solved.
            1. Krasnodar 26 December 2019 00: 09 New
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              An interesting theory. I agree only with the conclusion. hi
              1. Vladimir_6 26 December 2019 02: 01 New
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                Quote: Krasnodar
                An interesting theory. I agree only with the conclusion. hi

                Than rich. hi
      2. opus 25 December 2019 13: 30 New
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        Well yes! The leadership of the Russian Federation is the wisest! You can shoot down planes in batches!

        Nah. we can’t compete with the US leadership:

        April 8, 1950 - the Privatir PB4Y-2 bomber (reg. 59645, 26th US Navy Patrol Squadron) was shot down by Soviet La-11 fighters over the Baltic Sea in the Liepaja region. A crew of 10 people died.
        November 6, 1951 - a P2V-3W Neptune patrol plane (reg. Number 124284, 6th patrol squadron of the US Navy), performing a reconnaissance flight from Atsugi air base, Japan, was shot down by MiG-15 fighters over Peter the Great Bay in the Vladivostok area. All 10 crew members were killed.
        June 13, 1952 - RB-29 Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 44-61810, 91st Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron of the US Air Force) flying from Yokota air base, Japan, shot down by MiG-15 Soviet fighters over the Sea of ​​Japan. All 12 crew members are considered dead.
        October 7, 1952 - RB-29 Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 44-61815, 91st Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron of the US Air Force) was shot down over the southern islands of the Kuril ridge by Soviet La-11 fighters. All 8 crew members died.
        .
        September 2, 1958 - C-130A-II Hercules reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 56-0528, 7406th US Air Force combat support squadron) flying from Adan airfield, Turkey, was shot down by Soviet MiG-17 fighters over Armenia. All 17 crew members died., their remains were returned partly immediately after the incident, partly as a result of joint activities in 1998.

        In 1950-1960, the United States had a tremendous advantage over the USSR, that in the nuclear weapons base, what delivery vehicles did they announce to us?
        I don’t remember, refresh my memory



        and the Turks are also "the same."
        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        wiseSEE



        August 24, 1976 - a pair of F-100 Super Saber fighter-bombers (Turkish Air Force) invaded the airspace of the USSR. One of them was shot down by the Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.


        and Iranians

        June 21, 1978 - four CH-47 Chinook transport helicopters (Imperial Air Force of Iran) invaded the USSR airspace over Turkmenistan. They were intercepted by a MiG-23 fighter (pilot - Shkinder), who shot down one helicopter with missiles (8 crew members were killed), and damaged another helicopter by fire from an air gun. The damaged CH-47 made an emergency landing on the territory of the USSR. Subsequently, the car and crew were returned to Iran.


        and Argentines with the British
        July 18, 1981 - the Soviet interceptor Su-15TM (pilot Valentin Kulyapin) rammed a CL-44 transport aircraft (LV-JTN, Transportes Aereo Rioplatense airline, Argentina), which made a secret transport flight from Tel Aviv to Tehran and unintentionally invading USSR airspace over Armenia. ATAll 4 members of the CL-44 crew died, including a British national. Kulapin successfully catapulted, for the ram was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.

        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        You can shoot down planes in batches!

        Stop the snowstorm to carry / drive

        / you are not paid for outright stupidity, you need to work out the issue
    2. Finn 25 December 2019 12: 22 New
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      In my opinion, they acted wisely, they threw the provocateur who brought down the dryer, setting the Russian Federation against the Turks. The Russian Federation does not suffer from rabies and because of 1 person did not take revenge on all of Turkey. There was such a case with an earthquake, which was mistaken for a nuclear explosion, but they did not press the return start button.
      1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 30 New
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        Correctly! women of new pilots give birth! We climbed into Syria but we are not in conflict
        1. Finn 25 December 2019 12: 44 New
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          I think all the same, we are there more with particular interests, despite the fact that the fate of the Syrian people is not indifferent and saved Syria from destruction. But we don’t get into conflict, otherwise women cannot give birth to so much.
          1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 12: 53 New
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            Quote: Finn
            the fate of the Syrian people is not indifferent, and they saved Syria from destruction.

            The hostilities are still ongoing in Syria, and Russia is already restoring the Syrian industry:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV3UBpXo4S4
            1. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 02 New
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              To restore my own.
            2. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 10 New
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              Industry is dying in Russia, hospitals are closing, but they are being built up with churches!
              1. Vladimir_6 25 December 2019 13: 25 New
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                Industry is dying in Russia, hospitals are closing, but they are being built up with churches!

                List of plants built under Putin.
                Large plants built under Putin from scratch:
                Volgorechensk pipe plant
                Factory "Danone Industry", Chekhov district of Moscow region
                Khakass Aluminum Plant
                Purovsky gas condensate processing plant
                Pipe-electric welding workshop “Height 239” of the Chelyabinsk pipe rolling plant
                Cement Plant "TulaCement"
                Cement Plant "Shchurovsky Cement"
                32 Iron Ozone Steelmaking Complex at the Pervouralsk New Pipe Plant
                Akashevskaya Poultry Farm, Mari El Republic
                "Bryansk broiler" - a project for the production of poultry meat in the Bryansk region
                Complex for deep processing of oilseeds "Nefis - Bioproduct", Tatarstan
                Borschevsky cement plant in the Ferzikovsky district of the Kaluga region
                Asia-Cement Cement Plant in the village of Ust-Inza, Nikolsky District, Penza Region
                Cement Plant "Voronezh branch of Eurocement Group"
                Serebryansky cement plant
                Sengileevsky cement plant
                Brick factory, Nikolskoye village, Kirovsky district, Leningrad region
                Caspian Flat Glass Plant
                Boguchansky timber industry complex
                Woodworking complex "Arkaim"
                Big Bratsk
                Antipinsky oil refinery, Tyumen
                Associated Petroleum Gas Processing Plant Monolit LLC
                Polyom Polypropylene Plant, Omsk
                Tobolsk Polymer
                Severstal - Varietal Plant Balakovo
                UGMK-Steel Steel Mill, Tyumen
                Foundry and rolling complex of the United Metallurgical Company in the Vyksa district of the Nizhny Novgorod region
                This is not counting the restored Soviet factories. In total, from 2011 to 2014, more than a thousand plants and factories were built.
                1. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 14: 04 New
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                  List of plants built under Putin.

                  The number closed for objectivity needs to be laid out next. wink
            3. Finn 25 December 2019 13: 10 New
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              I am inclined to think that they will never stop, only in time they will switch to the ATO format.
              It is still periodically in Russia. There is no reason not to rebuild industry, otherwise how to win?
    3. DED_peer_DED 25 December 2019 18: 18 New
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      But in fact, the leadership of the Russian Federation turned out to be wisdom and patience. So do not rush to conclusions.

      In - in. You are in no hurry either. And then you’ll have to change shoes on the go when “ours” understand that the Turks threw them for money. Here is "ours" (is it MONEY?)
      wisdom and patience
      and show.
      1. Vladimir_6 28 December 2019 23: 23 New
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        Quote: DED_peer_DED
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        But in fact, the leadership of the Russian Federation turned out to be wisdom and patience. So do not rush to conclusions.

        In - in. You are in no hurry either. And then you’ll have to change shoes on the go when “ours” understand that the Turks threw them for money. Here is "ours" (is it MONEY?)
        wisdom and patience
        and show.

        You understand the meaning of what has been said. What kind of money? It's about the fact of the downed SU-24. It is said about him that they showed patience and wisdom.
        When we are discussing an article on Russian loans to Turkey, then you will “vang” whom to change shoes on the go.
  • Finn 25 December 2019 12: 28 New
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    Landing an Israeli plane of courage is not necessary, you need a reason and a rocket. The Russian Federation does not go into Israeli conflict with its neighbors, they will sort it out themselves, there are enough of their own problems to figure out whose truth is the truth in this eternal confrontation. And that’s all. Of course, the stick is bent.
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 11 New
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      To land an Israeli plane courage is needed! They have gone too far for a long time, but the Russian Federation will turn a blind eye! It was the USSR that shot down Israel’s planes, but Botox’s courage isn’t enough
      1. Binder 25 December 2019 14: 30 New
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        USSR shot down Israeli planes

        And those beating up ended with the shameful defeat of Soviet pilots over Egypt on July 30, 1970 (Operation Rimon 20). So maybe it’s not worth the same rusty rake?
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          I agree! They thought to throw their hats, but it turned out the other way around! Nevertheless, a tough answer is needed!
  • Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 12: 29 New
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    The leadership of the Russian Federation does not have the courage to bring down an Israeli plane

    The Russian leadership had the courage to give a proper name to the Polish ambassador for his statement on the expulsion of Jews to Africa and the erection of a monument to Hitler in Warsaw ...
    Which of the current Israeli politicians has made any statements against Western politicians who have explicitly called for the destruction of Russia and the Russians? Did they at least somehow positively vote against anti-Russian sanctions, at least in sports?
    Some steps of the Russian government do not lend themselves to understanding a person in their right mind ...
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 47 New
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      Dare in words, but the Israelis in deed!
      1. Finn 25 December 2019 13: 15 New
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        In Jordan) I apologize for not being able to resist
        1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 30 New
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          Not only! For their citizens, they are ready even to fly to Mars, the operation in Uganda as an example! And in Russia, people die and let the main thing is to prevent a conflict, to become a partner! Why then climbed into Syria if you are diplomatically inclined and afraid to protect an ally! Jews can one day Assad rocket bang in the palace and solve all their problems! And the air defense will be silent!
          1. Finn 25 December 2019 13: 35 New
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            This is a short-sighted solution, so the problem can not be solved. All philosopher comments as a selection. You probably don't need to try playing chess.
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              They decide so that the people of Israel would be comfortable, and not friends oligarchs!
              1. Finn 25 December 2019 14: 12 New
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                Russia defended many of its citizens with an operation in Syria. The terrorists would then trample through Afghanistan towards the Russian Federation. And so they had an abortion to their mother in Syria and that’s all. You say to Mars, yeah, cool, to fu-35, you just need to take food with a margin. A military operation at the Mohete Zoo, cool. Assad rocket is also a cool statement. Air defense will be silent, and you try ....
                1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 14: 14 New
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                  I don’t remember how Russia protects its citizens! I remember how often embassies do not help citizens in distress! And if they help, then under pressure from the press! Why protect in Syria! Maybe I’ll put things in order!
                  1. Finn 25 December 2019 14: 16 New
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                    We will figure it out there and there.
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                    Well, I see how they figured it out! where are you there blood
                  3. Finn 25 December 2019 15: 43 New
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                    Why only blood? Feces too if GRU send.
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                    No thanks eat yourself
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                    I see gall too. Yes?
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                    And eat bile too
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      They decide so that the people of Israel would be comfortable, and not friends oligarchs!

      Why did you vote for such power?
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    This is a short-sighted solution, so the problem can not be solved.

    You know. if there is a pretender, then the Jews will no longer be so impudent in Syria. And the excuses that they say hezbol and the Iranians are bombed - so then instead of the Iranians, our people die in battles with ISIS.
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 14: 34 New
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      They said everything correctly! good good
    2. Finn 25 December 2019 14: 40 New
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      Ingvar I think they not only help there with the Isis, but also gain a foothold in order to pile on the Israelites to try. With Hezbollah, everything is clear, but the Iranian military leader (who forgot) said that he would wipe Israel off the face of the earth, and bothering everything happening in Syria. The Israelites have a fly not bolted, it’s scary, after all. It is logical that they are fired at.
      1. MoJloT 25 December 2019 15: 26 New
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        the Iranian military leader (who forgot) said that he would wipe Israel off the face of the earth
        Israel and the United States also say that they will erase Iran, but as usual, these are not bags to turn over.
        1. Finn 25 December 2019 15: 33 New
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          I didn’t read such that Iran threatened to wipe it off the face of the earth.
        2. MoJloT 25 December 2019 15: 38 New
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          I have not read this
          Okay to read, you at least listen to TV or radio. This is Middle Eastern nonsense, already a well-established business. But nothing uncle Sam will protect everyone, not for free!
  • Binder 25 December 2019 14: 33 New
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    Quote: Horace the Philosopher
    Jews can one day Assad rocket bang in the palace and solve all their problems!

    Ah, my dear man, if in this way all Jewish problems could be solved, Assad would have tumbled with the gurus in paradise for a long time. bully
  • avib 25 December 2019 15: 57 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    Did they at least somehow positively vote against anti-Russian sanctions, at least in sports?

    Russian officials have replaced the database with the results of analyzes of Russian athletes. The Russian leadership recognized the fact of substitution. This criminality is actually practical. In Russia, they must deal with their stupid and greedy officials. Is it already that someone will oppose punishment for such arrogant attempts to deceive international organizations ?!
    But Israel did not support ALL other sanctions. One of many.
  • Vitaly gusin 25 December 2019 16: 39 New
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    Did they at least somehow positively vote against anti-Russian sanctions, at least in sports?

    Israel did not support the US and European sanctions against Russia and did not vote in the UN for Ukraine,
    and you still want Israel to pass normal tests instead of Russia.
  • kiril1246 25 December 2019 17: 10 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    The Russian leadership had the courage to give a proper name to the Polish ambassador for his statement on the expulsion of Jews to Africa and the erection of a monument to Hitler in Warsaw ...

    Putin uses the Jewish theme for his own showdown with Pilsen. That's when Russia begins to support Israel at the UN, then Israel will support it. In the meantime, Russia has always and everywhere voted for anti-Israeli resolutions.
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    Some steps of the Russian government do not lend themselves to understanding a person in their right mind ...

    In common sense they do not climb into power.
  • Nyrobsky 25 December 2019 13: 59 New
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    Quote: Horace the Philosopher
    No way! The leadership of the Russian Federation don't have the courage to bring down an Israeli plane, and at the same time, they close their eyes when Israel bombes an ally of the Russian Federation!
    Do we need it? Horace, the word "Philosopher" in your nickname is obviously superfluous. Russia is not at war with Israel. Israel does not bomb Russian targets in Syria. Ally? So the ally has its own aviation, its own air defense and its relations with Israel. Listen to you, so the Russians should dissolve the Syrian army altogether and proactively, in the same physiognomy, fight on all fronts with barmales, Jews, Turks, Kurds. Americans and other vagrants ... Russia did not fit in to drive everyone around the Syrian perimeter and fulfill its tasks.
    1. MoJloT 25 December 2019 15: 34 New
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      Russia is not at war with Israel.
      Russia, together with the Syrian army, Hezbollah and the IRGC, is fighting global evil in the form of ISIS and other stubborn FRI friends, so a conflict is very likely.
  • knn54 25 December 2019 12: 09 New
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    After the creation of the military rabbinate of Russia (Hasidim), there is nothing to be surprised at.
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      Quote: knn54
      After the creation of the military rabbinate of Russia (Hasidim), there is nothing to be surprised at.

      It is time for the Russians to emigrate from this country. Where is it, just? To Israel, or what?
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    Who hit that?
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    Well, how can you comment on this article after a downed Russian reconnaissance aircraft ?!


    Well, how do you comment on this, in response to the "plane shot down by Israel" plane r (the Russian leadership gives orders to the special forces in difficult conditions (not everything is public today) to return the body of a soldier.
    And now add 1 + 1
  • cniza 25 December 2019 12: 29 New
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    The military attaches of Israel and Russia also play an important role in this coordination, the newspaper notes, and every few months a working group of the Israeli Ministry of Defense meets with its Russian counterparts.


    It would be strange if there were no such contacts ... they are located at a distance of an "outstretched arm" from each other.
    1. bessmertniy 25 December 2019 13: 18 New
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      Well, it seems that there were no serious shoals after Israel flunked our board until there were no more. And hopefully - will not be! repeat
      1. cniza 25 December 2019 13: 51 New
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        They are actively contacting for this, but apparently the head of the jamb is still not finished, but maybe we won’t know anything.
      2. MoJloT 25 December 2019 15: 35 New
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        Well, it seems that there were no serious shoals after Israel flunked our board until there were no more.
        As the barodates begin to have problems, so the IZ aviation begins to urgently work, how is it?
  • Bukhalov 25 December 2019 14: 53 New
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    Well, how can you comment on this article after a downed Russian reconnaissance aircraft ?!
    Military diplomacy? No, conspiracy and betrayal .....

    I would comment in the context of the launch by the Syrian crew of the same missiles, with an exact hit over Cyprus located overseas. What can I say about the slow-moving Ile, who managed to “hide behind" at a supersonic (!) Speed ​​Israeli fighter. At the same time, already in its airspace. What must have been recorded by all independent means of tracking. Including from satellites. But now the tragedy with Il is served on the site at the Jewish breakfast level by Christian babies.
  • Zampolit-m 25 December 2019 16: 16 New
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    In particular, they talked about how Israel and Russia support a complex communications mechanism designed to prevent incidents

    We know this mechanism when an Israeli pilot covered himself with our civilian IL and killed 14 of our obviously not ordinary specialists ..
    Israel has already done this in the past ..
    So there is no need here to too admire such peace-loving Jews in Israel .... If, that they will do everything and negotiate with them is useless (you will also have to)
    Someday Russia will be framed on a large scale and will still giggle here ..
  • Shahno 25 December 2019 17: 52 New
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    Quote: Ingvar 72
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    In general, Israel is not to blame!

    And they are never to blame, always with nothing.

    Israel is to blame. But if you convince God of this, yes. And so no. sad
    laughing
    PS. Israel- help yourself you know whom. Literal translation ... yes
    Speaking of sore. The following year, the Pope expressed a desire to visit Jerusalem.
    1. DED_peer_DED 25 December 2019 18: 39 New
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      Quote: Shahno
      The following year, the Pope expressed a desire to visit Jerusalem.

      I think not to (unlike some) beat my forehead against the crying wall (punctuation marks at will).
      Find other attractions to visit.
  • Shahno 25 December 2019 18: 29 New
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    Well, it seems that there were no serious shoals after Israel flunked our board until there were no more. And hopefully - will not be! repeat

    Distrust is a jamb. It seems to be better debugged. Nobody brought you down. Caught in the distribution ..